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7/27/2018

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Your Lovable But Earnestly Dumb Niece

Filed under: General — JVW @ 5:27 pm



[guest post by JVW]

Democratic Socialist wünderkind (I know the word isn’t really spelled with an umlaut, but any self-respecting fan of Blue Öyster Cult or Mötley Crüe uses the ümülät at any and all opportünity) Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez appeared on that evening talk show with the smug leftist host (the one who used to be white but now self-identifies as younger and black) last night in order to enlighten us all on her hip, progressive political philosophy. In the course of the gentle tongue bath interview by the host, Trevor Stewart, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez showed herself to be charming, if a little vacuous. Here is a perfect encapsulation of what she is about (play the video embedded in the Tweet):

Where to begin in unpacking the inanity? Estimates on “Medicaid for All” vary, with the Bernard Sanders folks pegging the cost at $13 trillion over 10 years and the Urban Institute suggesting it would be closer to $32 trillion over the decade. Let’s use the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget’s estimate of $25 trillion over ten years, since it’s (very) roughly halfway between the two and because they had the foresight to put the word “responsible” in their title.

So how will the program be paid for? The CRFB says that transferring all current expenditures on health care (with the exception of the Veterans’ Administration and the Bureau of Indian Affairs, which Sen. Sanders did not fold into his plan) and then implementing the additional taxes on payroll, income, and capital gains that he proposes would only raise over the course of a decade about $11 trillion, leaving a $14 trillion hole to be plugged. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez, after a prolonged and rambling disquisition about “people paying their fair share,” which she quickly amended to being “corporations and the ultra wealthy” (lest any mocha Marxists think they are expected to cough up the dough) rehashed Warren Buffett’s misleading lament that his tax rate is lower than that of his secretary. She also knocks the recently enacted corporate tax rate reduction and calls for it to be raised up to 28% (which, she notes, is still lower than it was pre-Trump) while eliminating the same deductions already eliminated by last year’s tax plan. That, she assures us, would make up $2 trillion, though that sum would be over the entire decade, and — oh, by the way — that money has already been accounted for in the Sanders tax increase calculations.

But let’s be as generous as possible, accept Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s claims, and decide that we are now down to a $12 trillion ten-year hole for Medicare for All. Hang on, though! Ms. Ocasio-Cortez quickly pivots to a desire to have our country transition to 100% renewal energy by some unspecified time date, which she says will cost us $3 trillion to $4 trillion. And here is where the train goes off the rails:

Now, if we implement a carbon tax on top of that — so that we can transition and financially incentivize people away from fossil fuels — if we implement a carbon tax that’s an additional amount of, um, of, of a large amount of revenue that we can have.

You all followed that, right? I mean, it’s perfectly clear. We implement a carbon tax which will pay for our $3 trillion to $4 trillion transition to renewables yet will still somehow help pay for Medicare for All too. And that carbon tax will magically be paid by corporations and not trickle down into the prices consumers pay for goods, and at the same time everyone is going to get money to put up solar panels and purchase hybrid vehicles. And sure, we’re going to be socking corporations with the carbon tax at the very same time that we go back to a higher corporate tax rate (without the deductions this time!) and a higher payroll tax to pay for Medicare for All, but don’t for one moment believe that this will affect productivity or employment.

It doesn’t get any better after that:

And then the last key which is extremely, extremely important is reprioritization. Just last year we gave the military a $700 billion budget increase, which they didn’t even ask for! They’re like, “We don’t want another fighter jet.” They’re like, “Don’t give us another nuclear bomb.” You know? They didn’t even ask for it, and we gave it to them.

About that $700 billion budget increase: the entire defense budget for fiscal year 2018 was set at $700 billion and the proposed budget for 2019 is $716 billion. Our lipstick Lenin is conflating the entire damn defense budget with a one-time increase in spending. Now it is entirely proper to question whether the defense increase of $150 billion over the amount capped by the 2011 Budget Control Act (the infamous sequestration) is necessary or prudent; a lot of us here would probably argue that it is not. But Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s worldview is dependent upon her gullible supporters believing that our defense budget grows by nearly three-quarters of a trillion dollars in a given year, because she needs that sum of money (and much more!) to pay for her promise that you can vote yourself the good life. It’s a pity that the show’s host, Jon Noah, doesn’t know enough or care enough to question her about her assumptions, though I guess we can be grateful that he asked her the funding question to begin with.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez’s performance has been largely panned by the usual suspects among conservatives and libertarians, but it doesn’t seem that too many “sensible” Democrats have bothered to point out her bosh and piffle. And yeah, the Trump Administration and the GOP Congress certainly play fast-and-loose with numbers too. But these Democratic Socialists, who hope to sell us on a vision of a benevolent government with the money to pay for everything that we could possibly desire (our discussion of how to pay for Medicare for All doesn’t even begin to cover funding free college and a government job for all the unemployed), are either setting us up to challenge Greece for benign fiscal irresponsibility or they are setting up their supporters for a massive disappointment when they fail to deliver on their lavish promises.

That said, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is attractive and charming, with a nice television presence when she is in front of a friendly host. She’s like your cute yet exasperating niece who comes home for Thanksgiving her freshman year of college and suddenly knows exactly how society should be ordered and why it’s sheer selfishness and greed that prevents us from seeing the wisdom of the ideology she absorbed on campus. (Your clever but annoying nephew who comes home a rabid libertarian is a whole other ball of wax.) She’ll probably win her election, she’ll probably be very popular as a charismatic young minority female leftist in Congress, but our great nation really can do without her devotion to the mediocrity of the welfare state.

– JVW

212 Responses to “Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: Your Lovable But Earnestly Dumb Niece”

  1. This post has lots of parentheses (because they are sold on markdown on Fridays) but very little Trump.

    JVW (42615e)

  2. But she will be given the benefit of the doubt, in ways certain candidates who were naive but correct were not.

    It’s insulting this antifa barista is what they think of that district,

    Narciso (f6b3a8)

  3. has anyone ever seen Warren Buffett’s secretary and Stormy Daniels in the same room at the same time

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. Trevor Noah, is the same kind of fool, the sorcerers apprentice to jon Stewart’s ‘fake news empire’

    Narciso (f6b3a8)

  5. Trevor Noah’s a dorkwad he’s why Jon Stewart gets antsy every six months and interjects cause this dorkwad is his legacy

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  6. plus Trevor Noah ritually butt-rapes aboriginal women with his comedy

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. Entonces… Alexandria 0casional-Cortex… por su puesto…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  8. But he looks creepier each time, but camembert Oliver, bee, are all his protege Farrell is bearable as is riggle.

    Narciso (f6b3a8)

  9. You will forgive me if I refuse to do anything more than giggle, I hope, JVW.

    nk (dbc370)

  10. he does look creepier every time but nowhere near chester molester David Letterman

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  11. Carrell, farell is tedious.

    Narciso (f6b3a8)

  12. “Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls… meet… the future!” – Bicycle Pitchman [Henry Jones] ‘Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid’ 1969

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  13. there’s a difference between charismatic and telegenic

    hoocher looks like she had a guest-arc on friends playing something joey brought home from open-mic night

    and then he made sexy with her

    hilarity ensues

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  14. You will forgive me if I refuse to do anything more than giggle, I hope, JVW.

    I take that as a compliment. When something is so absurd that it is frightening, one can only try to see the humor in it.

    JVW (42615e)

  15. Dont firget shes a Hamas fan gyrl and wants to ban ice.

    Narciso (f6b3a8)

  16. Yes she’s the other broke girl@, with kat and the other one.

    Narciso (f6b3a8)

  17. 16,000 give or take primary voters got her in, in a District of 731,000. The incumbent she beat got around 14,000. In a recent thread, Patterico called the GOP insane. I don’t know if “heartening” is the right word, but if 30,000 is all the turnout the New York Democrats bothered to muster, they’re nuttier.

    nk (dbc370)

  18. Well pappas doesn’t have much of a campaign, but the acorn party seems to buoyed crowley, shazbat.

    narciso (d1f714)

  19. there’s a difference between charismatic and telegenic

    Fair point, though I find it endearing when she does the nutty sorority girl routine like at 0:34 and 2:08 of the video.

    JVW (42615e)

  20. Westchester roller girl. Should be skating and blowing bubbles on video.

    neal (fbec8d)

  21. 18, that’s sad that he’s just being kept afloat by another flavor of nutty left…id rather see Lee Zeldin, Petuh King and Dan Donovan trying to get Crowley to the light side.

    urbanleftbehind (3837c3)

  22. Zeldins opponent is an older richer space cadet,

    narciso (d1f714)

  23. westchester roller girl is my new favorite thing

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  24. Spotcheck Billy got down on his hands and knees
    He said “Hey momma, hey let me check your oil alright?”
    And she said “No, no honey, not tonite,
    Comeback Monday, yeah you comeback Tuesday, then I might.”

    I said Juanita, my sweet Juanita, what are you up to?
    My Juanita. I said Juanita, my sweet taquito
    What are you up to? My Juanita.

    Well, I don’t want nobody who won’t dive for dimes.
    Don’t want no speedball cause I might die tryin’
    Throw me a line, throw me a dime.
    Cause there’s a fat man in the bathtub with the blues.
    I hear you moan, I hear you moan–I hear you moan

    Billy got so sad, dejected, put on his hat and started to run.
    Runnin’ down the street and yellin’ at the top of his lungs
    “All I want in this life and time is some good clean fun,
    All I want in this life and time is some hit and run!”

    I said Juanita, my sweet Juanita, what are you up to?
    My Juanita. I said Juanita, my sweet taquito
    What are you up to? My Juanita

    Well I put my money in your meter baby so it wont run down,
    But you got me in a squeeze play on the cheesey side of town.
    Throw me line, show me a sign.
    Cause there’s a fat man in the bathtub with the blues
    I hear you moan, I hear you moan, I hear you moan

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  25. is anyone else sad that Eric Church outed himself as a tard

    it’s not demoralizing but it’s disappointing

    i thought he was sort of smart

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  26. Wow, that’s pretty embarrassing. It’s amazing what you can get away with when your constituency will believe literally anything, however obviously fallacious.

    In fact, it’s almost as clueless as promising to eliminate the entire $20T national debt in eight years without raising taxes, by renegotiating trade deals, isn’t it?

    TRUMP: We’re not a rich country. We’re a debtor nation. We’ve got to get rid of — I talked about bubble. We’ve got to get rid of the $19 trillion in debt.

    BOB WOODWARD: How long would that take?

    TRUMP: I think I could do it fairly quickly, because of the fact the numbers . . . .

    WOODWARD: What’s fairly quickly?

    TRUMP: Well, I would say over a period of eight years. And I’ll tell you why.

    WOODWARD: Would you ever be open to tax increases as part of that, to solve the problem?

    TRUMP: I don’t think I’ll need to. The power is trade. Our deals are so bad.

    WOODWARD: That would be $2 trillion a year.

    TRUMP: No, but I’m renegotiating all of our deals, Bob. The big trade deals that we’re doing so badly on. With China, $505 billion this year in trade. We’re losing with everybody.

    Remember when we were going to cover everybody with universal health-care paid for by the government, and it wasn’t going to cost anybody anything? Let’s cut to the tape!

    SCOTT PELLEY: What’s your plan for Obamacare?

    TRUMP: Obamacare’s going to be repealed and replaced. Obamacare is a disaster if you look at what’s going on with premiums where they’re up 40, 50, 55 percent.

    PELLEY: How do you fix it?

    TRUMP: There’s many different ways, by the way. Everybody’s got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, “No, no, the lower 25 percent that can’t afford private. But–”

    PELLEY: Universal health care.

    TRUMP: I am going to take care of everybody. I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.

    PELLEY: The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?

    TRUMP: They’re going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably–

    PELLEY: Make a deal? Who pays for it?

    TRUMP: –the government’s gonna pay for it. But we’re going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it’s going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything.

    Got that? Not only can you have your doctor, you can have everything!

    And a deal with “existing hospitals” will pay for it all, and more besides!

    Trump has proven that the economic ignorance of the voters is a political credit card without any spending limit. You don’t need to know anything about anything to succeed, as long as you lie frequently and shamelessly enough, and promise literally everybody literally everything with no sacrifices or trade-offs necessary.

    Expect plenty more Ocasio-Cortez’s, from both parties. Pandora’s Box is open, and lid isn’t going back on anytime soon…

    Dave (445e97)

  27. We will pay for this the same way we pay for everything. We’ll borrow it from China. As soon as they start talking to us again. Failing that, we can print the money.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  28. Ms. Ocasio-Cortez’s worldview is dependent upon her gullible supporters believing that our defense budget grows by nearly three-quarters of a trillion dollars in a given year, because she needs that sum of money (and much more!) to pay for her promise that you can vote yourself the good life

    You assume a lot about her ability (or desire) to do arithmetic. If you want something bad enough, it will just work out.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  29. Gee, Dave, and we all thought that he’d actually wipe out that national debt too, right after he walked to the Moon.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  30. The difference is that Trump was lying exaggerating, and we know he was lying exaggerating. This little darling actually BELIEVES her sh1t smells like roses.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  31. Yes, that’s about the size of it:

    https://youtu.be/09GBnSmFg8s

    Narciso (2b46f5)

  32. I’m waiting for the sex tape to surface. Probably 10 minutes of permission-granting.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  33. This post has lots of parentheses (because they are sold on markdown on Fridays) but very little Trump.

    ftfy

    🙂

    Dave (445e97)

  34. This little darling actually BELIEVES her sh1t smells like roses.

    And Donald Trump doesn’t?

    LOL.

    Dave (445e97)

  35. A little?

    Bugg (8aed21)

  36. Well, she’s 28 and only running for congress, and could learn something. Trump’s 72 and president, and he doesn’t like to read, or be told anything.

    She might not even win her election, since Joe Crowley is still going to be on the ballot in November.

    Colonel Klink (ce6c15)

  37. Take a break, Dave.

    Actually, all those things the carnita caliente wants, the EU has them.

    nk (dbc370)

  38. General burkhalter is most upset

    Narciso (2b46f5)

  39. No he likes,to talk back, is miss Cortez, appreciably less informed than the times editorial page, magic eightball says no.

    Narciso (2b46f5)

  40. ConDave has teh 2 minutes of hate down, but his internal clock is all fvcked up…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  41. I now see where the mad scientists come from, it’s rather pitiful that is about the extent the media will examine her views,

    Narciso (2b46f5)

  42. Only in ConDave’s world does a thread about a loony leftist (BIRM) become BUT TRUMP!!!

    Sooooo conservative. Keep running to the left’s defense Dave.

    NJRob (584047)

  43. Carnita caliente? No, chiquita bananas (sic) is more suitable I think.

    nk (dbc370)

  44. At least Klinky has settled on one name, till he decides to sockpuppet again.

    NJRob (584047)

  45. Teh little miss has the eyes of a fanatic. Borderline Manson Lamps.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  46. This is an excellent interview of teh little missy… https://twitter.com/CRTV/status/1021507749119586304

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  47. The difference is that Trump was lying exaggerating, and we know he was lying exaggerating.

    Come on Kevin.

    Telling someone that you can cure their inoperable cancer with unicorn farts isn’t exaggerating – it’s straight-up fraud.

    Trump said he could eliminate the national debt by reducing or eliminating the trade imbalance and without raising taxes. That is a tautologically impossible thing to do.

    The trade deficit is money spent by us, as free individuals, using our earnings to purchase things that we have decided are the best value available, and that will improve our standard of living. Regardless of where or how that money of ours is spent, the government has no claim on it to pay its own bills…unless it is confiscated by a tax or tariff.

    But to Trump’s economically illiterate supporters, who defend his moronic trade war (and to Ocasio-Cortez’s supporters, who defend her equally moronic fantasies), it all makes sense as long as you don’t ask too many questions.

    The trade deficit is a big number, after all. The national debt is another big number. One big number can cancel out another big number. Somehow.

    Similarly, the defense budget is a big number. The cost of “free” this or “free” that inevitably also turns out to be a big number. And one big number can cancel out another big number. Somehow.

    Dave (445e97)

  48. Scary isn’t it coronello,

    Narciso (2b46f5)

  49. Now you read the metro pcs or yahoo feed and you wouldn’t have a clue what’s going on.

    Narciso (2b46f5)

  50. Come on Dave, you should know, that if we reverse the trade imbalance with everyone, every dollar can then be transferred directly to pay off to balance the deficit and pay off the debt. Everyone knows that, its just basic economics, and, if we add a 25% tariff on everything, then that’s just pure profit.

    Colonel Klink (1dd66e)

  51. @49 Narciso

    It’s satire Narciso, no need to be afraid.

    Davethulhu (270006)

  52. No it’s zany mad cap humor, it’s terrifying for those with a trace of awareness.

    Narciso (2b46f5)

  53. Let’s see which way miss ocasio rolls as if we needed to doubt

    https://babalublog.com/2018/07/27/sandinista-pinata-nicaraguas-communists-stealing-everything-they-can-again/

    Narciso (2b46f5)

  54. Everyone knows that, its just basic economics, and, if we add a 25% tariff on everything, then that’s just pure profit.

    “I will give you everything.”

    – Donald J. Trump

    If he could somehow promise you more than “everything,” rest assured he would…

    Dave (445e97)

  55. Wonderful job, JVW. While already clear that she’s just a dopey, uninformed individual with no real grasp of history or politics, it’s great to see the problem with Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez so neatly laid out.

    Also, I felt a deep sense of disappointment with your Motley Crue and Blue Oyster ümülät Cult leanings. You’re better than that, dammit!

    Dana (023079)

  56. I really only know ‘don’t fear the reaper and whatever was on the heavy metal soundtrack

    Narciso (2b46f5)

  57. Dave, this is my favorite from the VFW this week, I can’t find the video…ah, here it is. Its the same one with the “don’t believe the things you see” bit. Hilarious, he should put a Jokers club in all his golf courses, he’d kill with that stuff. Get a Netflix deal out of it or something, the best deal.

    “We’re ordering 147 new F-35 Lightning fighters. This is an incredible plane. It’s stealth; you can’t see it. So when I talk to even people from the other side, they’re trying to order our plane. They like the fact that you can’t see it. I said, ‘How would it do in battle with your plane?’ They say, ‘Well, we have one problem: We can’t see your plane.’ That’s a big problem. Stealth. Super Stealth. The best in the world. We make the best military equipment in the world. Also, remember this: jobs.”

    Colonel Klink (cce794)

  58. Excellent post, JVW.

    Patterico (9c904b)

  59. Lipstick Lenin, I like that!

    Speaking of taxing the wealthy, she ought to consult with the governors of NY and CA, who are frantically trying to pass laws to enable the wealthy to write off all their property tax that exceeds $10,000 per year, now that Mean Old Trump is making the rich pay more. Her Dem comrades are lowering the taxes of the wealthy! I would love to see Alexandria meet with Brown and Cuomo and explain a few things to them.

    Patricia (3363ec)

  60. Wonder if this nut was born here or just another felon?

    mg (9e54f8)

  61. Lipstick Lenin, I like that!

    Wish I could take credit for it, but I heard it somewhere else (and frankly, can’t remember where).

    JVW (42615e)

  62. Ocasio-cortez is being given the donald trump media treatment. Its not yet a billion dollars in free publicity yet ;but its getting their. How will she pay for it? As the song says tax the rich feed the poor tax the rich till they aint rich no more! She is to the democratic party what donald trump is to the republican party. Establishment democrats attack her at their peril as nancy pelosi has already found out. Look what happened to the conservative 16 dwarfs who ran against trump. The never trumpers were flushed down the republican party toilet. If it wasn’t for cnn and msnbc neo-con artist would be out washing cars for a living. Clintonistas and bernie supporters are looking for someway out of the forrest of despair and here comes this young girl ready to hold their hands and lead them out of the forrest of despair. Get in front of that at your peril.

    wendell (f845c6)

  63. Wonder if this nut was born here or just another felon?

    She’s a natural-born American citizen and so are both of her parents.

    Bigot.

    Dave (445e97)

  64. No Perry, she is getting Obama treatment like a unicorn

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/07/the-week-in-pictures-last-straw-edition.php

    narciso (d1f714)

  65. Go swim in lava, davey boy. Rino lover.

    mg (9e54f8)

  66. “It’s 105 degrees as I stand with Rep. Devin Nunes on his family’s dairy farm. Mr. Nunes has been feeling even more heat in Washington, where as chairman of the House Select Committee on Intelligence he has labored to unearth the truth about the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s activities during and after the 2016 presidential campaign. Thanks in large part to his work, we now know that the FBI used informants against Donald Trump’s campaign, that it obtained surveillance warrants based on opposition research conducted for Hillary Clinton’s campaign, and that after the election Obama administration officials “unmasked” and monitored the incoming team.

    Mr. Nunes’s efforts have provoked extraordinary partisan and institutional fury in Washington—across the aisle, in the FBI and other law-enforcement and intelligence agencies, in the media. “On any given day there are dozens of attacks, each one wilder in its claims,” he says. Why does he keep at it? “First of all, because it’s my job. This is a basic congressional investigation, and we follow the facts,” he says. The “bigger picture,” he adds, is that in “a lot of the bad and problematic countries” that Intelligence Committee members investigate, “this is what they do there. There is a political party that controls the intelligence agencies, controls the media, all to ensure that party stays in power. If we get to that here, we no longer have a functioning republic. We can’t let that happen.” . . .

    It got worse. This spring Mr. Nunes obtained information showing the FBI had used informants to gather intelligence on the Trump camp. The Justice Department is still playing hide-and-seek with documents. “We still don’t know how many informants were run before July 31, 2016”—the official open of the counterintelligence investigation—“and how much they were paid. That’s the big outstanding question,” he says. Mr. Nunes adds that the department and the FBI haven’t done anything about the unmaskings or taken action against the Flynn leakers—because, in his view, “they are too busy working with Democrats to cover all this up.”

    He and his committee colleagues in June sent a letter asking Mr. Trump to declassify at least 20 pages of the FISA application. Mr. Nunes says they are critical: “If people think using the Clinton dirt to get a FISA is bad, what else that’s in that application is even worse.”

    Mr. Nunes has harsh words for his adversaries. How, he asks, can his committee’s Democrats, who spent years “worrying about privacy and civil liberties,” be so blasé about unmaskings, surveillance of U.S. citizens, and intelligence leaks? On the FBI: “I’m not the one that used an unverified dossier to get a FISA warrant,” Mr. Nunes says. “I’m not the one who obstructed a congressional investigation. I’m not the one who lied and said Republicans paid for the dossier. I’m just one of a few people in a position to get to the bottom of it.” And on the press: “Today’s media is corrupt. It’s chosen a side. But it’s also making itself irrelevant. The sooner Republicans understand that, the better.”

    His big worry is that Republicans are running out of time before the midterm elections, yet there are dozens of witnesses still to interview. “But this was always the DOJ/FBI plan,” he says. “They are slow-rolling, because they are wishing and betting the Republicans lose the House.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/devin-nunes-washingtons-public-enemy-no-1-1532729666?redirect=amp

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  67. Paul Montegu hardest hit… https://twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1022964130163118085

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  68. We saw a more virulent strain of this infatuation, just about 10 years, and the converse a month later, Sybil had more stable mood swings.

    Narciso (af2f86)

  69. I never want to live in Davey boys and world.

    mg (9e54f8)

  70. And Donald Trump doesn’t?

    If Donald Trump believes his sh1t, then you can’t call him a liar. Pick a side.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  71. mg, stop going around mooning everybody and hollering the “n” word. It’s not cool anymore – the 1950’s are long gone now. Evolve a little, it wouldn’t hurt you.

    Tillman (d34303)

  72. Yes,leave it to hip-hop and fmr comedy central players like Larry wilmore.

    Narciso (af2f86)

  73. Yes, especially since he took umbrage at my Ben Shapiro/Jewish Electrician inference a few weeks back.

    urbanleftbehind (3837c3)

  74. It’s already dying and inert – if you avoid saying it with the hard “r” in the context of song.

    urbanleftbehind (3837c3)

  75. I can appreciate the arguments that we can’t afford health care for everyone, it’s too expense. But then I run across our footing the bill for a 4 Billion dollar ship – that’s for only one Navy ship! But we can’t help anyone with their healthcare.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJBe46X_mtE

    Tillman (d34303)

  76. It should have been dead along time, ago.

    Narciso (af2f86)

  77. Go fly a kite in lightning Tillman..you commie pos.

    mg (9e54f8)

  78. This country will be on fire after the midterm ballot boxes are stuffed in the democrats favor by the fbi and doj. They have prolonged the truth in the last election and the only way it goes away is for the democrats to successfully steal another election.what a char this will leave..

    mg (9e54f8)

  79. 77… $400B was the estimate for Cali alone a couple of years ago. The state’s Dimocrats did STFU at that point, but after a couple of years, they figure they can start pounding the table again. They have a good feel for how their base is not the sharpest tool in the work-shed re: simple math and sustainability.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  80. If Donald Trump believes his sh1t, then you can’t call him a liar. Pick a side.

    First, you said Ocasio-Cortez “BELIEVES her sh1t smells like roses” (in implicit contrast to Trump).

    That is usually a phrase that means something like “believes they are incapable of fault”.

    Second, Donald Trump clearly has a conception of “truth” which is unrecognizable to any sane person. His behavior is consistent with the belief that it is he who reifies the truth or falsity of any given proposition about the world, through his own will. You saw that expressed openly in the recent VFW speech. He has also asserted that negative press coverage is, ispo facto “fake”. In The Art of the Deal he even spells out explicitly his approach based on lying to people and telling them what they want to hear, even if it isn’t true.

    In short, Donald Trump is criminally insane.

    I do agree that Ocasio-Cortez is more naive and miseducated than dishonest. That doesn’t make her any less wrong, but if you meant she isn’t saying things she knows to be false, then I agree with you.

    It’s actually kind of endearing that when pressed, she seems quite willing to admit it when she doesn’t know what she’s talking about (which appears to be almost always…). She comes across as humble, which is a trait I wish more politicians had (remember GWB is the living politician I admire most…). If she stays in politics, I imagine her naive honesty and willingness to admit error will be the first casualties…

    Dave (445e97)

  81. This country will be on fire after the midterm ballot boxes are stuffed in the democrats favor by the fbi and doj.

    Have a little more faith in your Russian friends. They came through last time, didn’t they?

    Dave (445e97)

  82. @80

    *ipso

    grrr…

    Dave (445e97)

  83. More commie worshiping from Davey boi

    mg (9e54f8)

  84. No more like the thuggish cultists in temple of doom,

    Narciso (af2f86)

  85. mg (9e54f8) — 7/28/2018 @ 9:28 am

    You’re the one backing the guy who endorsed Hillary Clinton for president, and bankrolled her, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer, John Kerry, Jimmy Carter, Charlie Rangel and Anthony Weiner.

    The same guy who ran out of words to praise the last Stalinist dictator on the planet, and who performed fellatio on the KGB agent who got him elected, during a recent press conference.

    So your “RINO” taunts are a pathetically obvious form of projection.

    Dave (445e97)

  86. Take another hit of that orange sunshine Dave boi.

    mg (9e54f8)

  87. Take another hit of that orange sunshine Dave boi.

    No you

    Dave (445e97)

  88. I’m not saying she would cut your heart out, with the look of making an espresso, but I’m not ruling it out either.

    Narciso (af2f86)

  89. Your line of Schiff is comical Dave boi.

    mg (9e54f8)

  90. Davey boi/ Cortez/2020

    mg (9e54f8)

  91. Bold words, from a guy named “milligram”…

    Dave (445e97)

  92. ‘They laughed at me at the university’

    Narciso (692cec)

  93. I don’t fault mg for being leery of socialism, and of government in general. He lives in a state where the politicians promise “a car in every garage and a missionary in every pot”.

    Dogs on Kauai howl cause they understand,
    That’s not a pure beef burger in that man’s hand.
    We don’t eat poi, mister, we eat “long ham”,
    And our cookbook’s titled “How To Serve Man”.

    nk (dbc370)

  94. Is that what pissed off, Pele, you think, mg? The Hawaiians were eating all the virgins instead of giving them to her?

    nk (dbc370)

  95. Someone has to check that degree that Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez received at Boston University. Something doesn’t add up with that—-that university (which has 27 colleges) wouldn’t give someone a degree in economics and then spit out a socialist liar like her. Did she plagiarize some papers (I’ll bet she did)? What was her GPA? What was her language requirement? What were her elective courses? Did she take a web design class, or an actual computer programming course using Python and C++? Does she have massive college debt? How much was her Pell Grant (did she even get one)? Was she given one of those racist scholarships because she’s a specific Hispanic—you know, one of those racist scholarships that any other race couldn’t get because they are not Hispanic?

    These questions must be asked because there are many with BU degrees that didn’t come out trying to make the USA into Cuba. There’s no doubt people find her cute, an Tweety bird sounding orgasm waiting to be recorded, but in reality a thug like her with a posse of supremacists has to be stopped in their tracks. I find it odd no one is giving her opponent Anthony Pappas (R Bronx-14) EQUAL time as the statute states. Thanks.

    ED STRAKER (857c00)

  96. That’s not how the equal time rule works.

    Key snippet:
    There are four exceptions to the equal-time rule. If the airing was within a documentary, bona fide news interview, scheduled newscast or an on-the-spot news event, the equal-time rule does not apply. Since 1983, political debates not hosted by the media station are considered “news events,” and as a result, are not subject to the rule. Consequently, these debates may include only major-party candidates without having to offer air time to minor-party or independent candidates. Talk shows and other regular news programming from syndicators, such as Entertainment Tonight, are also declared exempt from the rule by the FCC on a case-by-case basis.

    Colonel Klink (eaafec)

  97. “Go fly a kite in lightning Tillman..you commie pos.”

    mg (9e54f8) — 7/28/2018 @ 9:03 am

    Reminds me of a late classmate… his dad was one of the guys who developed the Lake Havasu area, and his sone worked for his company out there after high school in the early 70s.

    One summer late afternoon, he and co-workers were playing softball in a league game when a thunderstorm came in… a steady rain hadn’t started, so they kept playing… he was at shortstop. A lightning bolt struck one of the infield and somehow made it nearly all the way around… a horrendous Tinkers to Evers to Chance (to Noye) scenario. He didn’t die, but the key ring in his pocket and all the keys were welded together.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  98. Chain lightning, don’t feel so good…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  99. Oh my gosh, I found a newspaper clip about it… I was wrong, it was baseball and he was playing second base…

    https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=DS19730514.2.87

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  100. the goddess of fire is upset at the hypocrisy of the human race. Toxic gas and acid rain is killing plant life in some areas. As well as eating the paint off vehicles.

    mg (096877)

  101. 104, that sounds like a Weekly Reader front page article circa 1981.

    urbanleftbehind (3837c3)

  102. I have to say that Dave is an almost perfect example of the “concern” troll. He’s not against us, actually, just trying to save us from our (many) errors.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  103. @85. Time for your daily dose of reality, mg:

    Anybody who tries to help Traitor Trump spin and shovel– from the crew aboard the Russian Troller Red Fox, on blogs, on editorial boards, in White House press briefings, perched mutely around Cabinet tables, in Congressional cloak rooms, in bars, bed or otherwise- is essentially complicit; an enabler and a Russian ‘colluder.’

    It’s worth repeating this over and over for all you Colludin’ Putinites – as is Traitor Trump’s ‘modus operandi:’

    Traitor Trump strode on to the global stage in Helsinki, Finland, stood just five feet from Russia’s Putin, a trained KGB agent, dropped his pants, and sh!t on every American citizen in front of a worldwide audience, then to Vlad’s utter delight, wiped his azz w/t U.S. flag.
    _______

    Wake up and smell yourselves; snap out of it, Traitorous Trumpanovs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60YeQtMAH0U

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  104. #107

    Are you channeling Yosemite Sam?
    “Traitorous Trumpanovs”
    Or is that Daffy Duck?

    I like the premise of this article although some of the specifics are too inside the beltway for me to grasp:
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/27/trumps-secret-in-washington/

    steveg (a9dcab)

  105. Worrying about democrat ballot box stuffing like illegal aliens voting is fun to believe. What will not be so much fun is vote surrpression. Why you ask? It only effects democrat voters mostly minorities and thats a good thing. In 2016 hillarybots got hoisted on their own petard thinking they had it won so their was no rigging of election and talking about voter suppression would give democrat voters an excuse not to vote so deemed counterproductive. Not this time! With democrat establishment discredited by 2016 election they can no longer control democrat base for the corporate state. Democrats are already getting ready to riot as the first sign of voter suppression and ready to make country ungovernable. Too many rights will I will just get my guns and go down to the polling places and start shooting. That will teach them a lesson. See what happens next as they organize to fight back.

    wendell (af1a37)

  106. @108. Bugs you, eh, Elmer.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  107. Hee Haw commentary by the self appointed elite rinos

    mg (096877)

  108. i’m sure she’s down with this:

    https://twitter.com/SohrabAhmari/status/1023224670974296064

    narciso (d1f714)

  109. speaking of dead tropes, can they just put the star wars trilogy out of it’s misery, it’s starting to stink like galactica 1980, I swore never to speak of it,

    narciso (d1f714)

  110. 111. Putie likes them buckets seats in his lil’ Red mg.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  111. 113. Endless whine. Jack was right to leave ’em high and dry.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  112. Incycle: noun. A man forced to ride a bike around town because he caught too many DUI’s.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  113. Wonder how many new Trump voters DCSCA has created with his scat fetish. They just don’t get it, it’s their ignorant arrogance that got Trump elected, so they double down and turn it up even higher. Please keep posting that until 2020 DCSCA, it will give you and the last half dozen never Trumpers something to hope for during his second term.

    Nate Ogden (223c65)

  114. He was clueless in the 80s, he hasn’t developed any new insight:

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1023051848146509824.html

    Narciso (1ceb38)

  115. DCSCA was the first mover for Trump on these pages, albeit that may have been the same tactic CNN was usingduring the primaries…to give H the “beatable” opponent.

    urbanleftbehind (3837c3)

  116. I wouldn’t chalk up any grand design to that.

    Narciso (1ceb38)

  117. sinead hasn’t been in the news for a really long time

    i hope this is a good thing for her

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  118. ASPCA is a thief – teh BarcaLounger Bandit – who suffers from Tourette Syndrome and the need to endlessly repeat his revisionist Jay Ward/Bill Scott witticisms.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  119. @124. Haikhrushchev! Gestoliheit!

    Time for your daily dose of Trump-on-the-rocks, Red Colonel! Still everso Helstinki. Honor America: shower.

    Repeating this over and over for you and all Colludin’ Putinites – as is Traitor Trump’s ‘modus operandi:’

    Traitor Trump strode on to the global stage in Helsinki, Finland, stood just five feet from Russia’s Putin, a trained KGB agent, dropped his pants, and sh!t on every American citizen in front of a worldwide audience, then to Vlad’s utter delight, wiped his azz w/t U.S. flag.
    _______

    Wake up and smell yourselves; snap out of it, Traitorous Trumpanovs:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60YeQtMAH0U

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  120. @120. win/win, womp/womp. Neutering the modern conservative movement. So far, so good. November, ‘wave’ goodbye.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  121. Trumpettes Syndrome: ‘No collusion.’ ‘Witch hunt!”No collusion.’ ‘Witch hunt!”No collusion.’ ‘Witch hunt!”No collusion.’ ‘Witch hunt!’ ‘No collusion.’ ‘Witch hunt!’ ‘No collusion.’ ‘Witch hunt!’ ‘No collusion.’ ‘Witch hunt!’

    Clap’s your cure, Red Colonel!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  122. Haikolluder! Geshundikoff!

    Switch on your Philco and have a vodka on the rocks, Red Colonel.
    Then honor America, Helstinki: shower.

    Show Red how it’s done in America, kids…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1F0lBnsnkE

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  123. ‘He really seems to care, about what I have no idea’

    Narciso (5761a1)

  124. Lol, Narciso

    mg (9e54f8)

  125. #126

    It’s not often you hear someone admit to being dishonest, not to mention a Moby.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  126. Or, maybe SCSCA is really still a Trump supporter, but trying to make the opposition sound like utter assh0les. If so, he’s doing a fine job.

    Kevin M (5d3e49)

  127. I know discos an act, but French is purportedly serious:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/seanmdav/status/10233580115

    Narciso (5761a1)

  128. why did pedophile Mitt Romney’s favorite slicked-up sex toy Paul Ryan want to be speaker in the first place?

    good question right?

    looking back it looks like it was cause he had a dinky-boy wisconsin hard-on for a “border adjustment tax”

    effing weirdo

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  129. Short answer, it was his consolation prize for throwing the match against the paste eater.

    Narciso (5761a1)

  130. @132. You’re doin’ fine on your own w/o any help.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  131. @131. You’re behind the curve; never been a secret.

    @129.‘He really seems to care, about what I have no idea’– Trump 101, admits the Colludin’ Cuban, in Earth English.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  132. @134. More pay, better office, nice letterhead. If not second in line, third would do, Mr. Feet; ‘3 U.S.C. 19 (volume 3 of the United States Code, section 19) makes the Speaker of the House the next in line to be president when no vice president is available. That law was put into place in 1947.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  133. i love President Trump and all the different cheeses you can get at the cheese shop (american cheeses made here en los estados unidos) and I love frosé and i like dinosaurs and spaceships and champagne sangria and our new H-Mart

    but mostly i love President Trump

    he’s my whole world

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  134. BS like this is why GOPe/never Trumpers are losing the party. Planned Parenthood and Sanctuary Cities have disagreement(supposedly) yet Democrats always manage to get them funded.

    “During a radio interview with WHAS on Friday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said the wall on the U.S.-Mexico border will likely not make it into the next funding legislation, which must be passed by the end of September in order to avoid another government shutdown.

    When directly asked if the funding of the border wall would have to wait until after midterm elections, the Republican senator replied “probably,” noting that it is “something [Democrats and Republicans] do have a disagreement on.”

    Nate Ogden (223c65)

  135. @139. he’s my whole world

    And Hope’s and Ivanna’s, and Marla’s, and Melania’s, and Stormy’s, and Karen’s, and Eric’s, and Donnie Jay’s, and Ivanka’s, and Tiffany’s– the daughter, too, and Barron’s, and Rudy’s, and Rupert’s, and Sean’s… but Mikie’s flippin’ out- not so much any more, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  136. Mcturtle, is just about keeping the gravy train moving, that’s why they spent 30 million on the Alabama primary to little effect, so Tim Miller and Gloria alred went for the jugular, if fraud was necessary so be it.

    Narciso (5761a1)

  137. so say we all

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  138. Cynical, perhaps have the events of 2010 and 2012 not born out the suspicions.

    As for rudy, I don’t regret my primary vote for him, the choice if staff like Rick Wilson and John Avlon, they couldn’t find snow in the polar caps.

    Narciso (5761a1)

  139. So many dolts
    Rinotrumpers surpass democrats and crimaleins as the leading turds in the punch bowl.

    mg (9e54f8)

  140. Occasional-Communist spent most of her life in Westchester county so her hero should be Doc Octopus.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  141. Aloha Pinandpuller
    Going through Jackson Hole for a visit soon.

    mg (9e54f8)

  142. mr mg

    Hey I will be in Casper about August 12th so keep me posted. You helping Kanye finish mixing his album?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  143. If we could get Colonel Haiku to Utah we could have a Harmonic Convergence.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  144. Your gonna be called RACIST for that remark, Pinandpuller. Just asking if that dumb bimbo was legal is now racist around here.
    Lake Powell and its sandstone cliffs make for a great sound. I’ll bring the ukulele.

    mg (9e54f8)

  145. I’m left to assume some of these posers are part of the paid for b.s. from the Koch bros, donahues chamber and of course Paul Ryan’s favorite money man soros.

    mg (9e54f8)

  146. Good Times when Wall Street punishes Zuckerberg and its time wasting operation. Congress being full of attorneys had no chance to succeed in punishment or correcting his bull in a china shop ethics.

    mg (9e54f8)

  147. Which corporate establishment democrat will be taken out next despite their corporate donors $$$?

    wendell (8886de)

  148. Thanks for that article Narciso. Some cogent analysis between those lawyers as to why this inquisition is such a sham. Hopefully declassification will come sooner than later.

    NJRob (b00189)

  149. Clarice for attorney general

    mg (9e54f8)

  150. “Donald Trump is leading a double life. In the west, most foreign policy experts see him as reckless, unpredictable and self-defeating. But though many in Asia dislike him as much as the Europeans do, they see him as a more substantial figure. I have just spent a week in Beijing talking to officials and intellectuals, many of whom are awed by his skill as a strategist and tactician. . . .

    Few Chinese think that Mr Trump’s primary concern is to rebalance the bilateral trade deficit. If it were, they say, he would have aligned with the EU, Japan and Canada against China rather than scooping up America’s allies in his tariff dragnet. They think the US president’s goal is nothing less than remaking the global order.

    They think Mr Trump feels he is presiding over the relative decline of his great nation. It is not that the current order does not benefit the US. The problem is that it benefits others more in relative terms. To make things worse the US is investing billions of dollars and a fair amount of blood in supporting the very alliances and international institutions that are constraining America and facilitating China’s rise.

    In Chinese eyes, Mr Trump’s response is a form of “creative destruction”. He is systematically destroying the existing institutions — from the World Trade Organization and the North American Free Trade Agreement to Nato and the Iran nuclear deal — as a first step towards renegotiating the world order on terms more favourable to Washington.

    Once the order is destroyed, the Chinese elite believes, Mr Trump will move to stage two: renegotiating America’s relationship with other powers. Because the US is still the most powerful country in the world, it will be able to negotiate with other countries from a position of strength if it deals with them one at a time rather than through multilateral institutions that empower the weak at the expense of the strong.

    My interlocutors say that Mr Trump is the US first president for more than 40 years to bash China on three fronts simultaneously: trade, military and ideology. They describe him as a master tactician, focusing on one issue at a time, and extracting as many concessions as he can. They speak of the skilful way Mr Trump has treated President Xi Jinping. “Look at how he handled North Korea,” one says. “He got Xi Jinping to agree to UN sanctions [half a dozen] times, creating an economic stranglehold on the country. China almost turned North Korea into a sworn enemy of the country.” But they also see him as a strategist, willing to declare a truce in each area when there are no more concessions to be had, and then start again with a new front.

    For the Chinese, even Mr Trump’s sycophantic press conference with Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, in Helsinki had a strategic purpose. They see it as Henry Kissinger in reverse. In 1972, the US nudged China off the Soviet axis in order to put pressure on its real rival, the Soviet Union. Today Mr Trump is reaching out to Russia in order to isolate China.”

    https://www.ft.com/content/f83b20e4-8e67-11e8-9609-3d3b945e78cf?desktop=true&segmentId=d8d3e364-5197-20eb-17cf-2437841d178a&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axioschina&stream=top-stories#myft:notification:instant-email:content

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  151. Out r mes

    mg (9e54f8)

  152. China is one of those fierce nations as in Isaiah 25, they don’t rightly know with trump, they bought up most the Congress but it has little effect.

    As for my friend clarice, shes seen special prosecutors abuse their authority, deep state agencies cover up Nazis admitted to this country, so her skepticism is born out and this case has every variety of maldlfeasance.

    Narciso (63624e)

  153. Our media is taking notes on Turkey.
    Lmao

    mg (9e54f8)

  154. It’s interesting to watch a guy like Menendez in his attempts to grill Mike Pompeo.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  155. I was hoping Pompeo would ask Menedez if he prefers blondes over brunettes

    mg (9e54f8)

  156. “…[Cohen is] a pathological lawyer… er, liar…”

    —- Chris Wallace, FNS 7/29/18

    LOL

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  157. If these trends hold, Ms. Ocasio-Cortez and her party could be in the majority in the House, and then we’ll really get to see how her socialism plays in Congress.

    Paul Montagu (1ff0e3)

  158. Menendez is a prime example of the adage, “Leftwingers don’t embarrass easy”.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  159. And Hillary had a 95% of winning, right Mr Montague.

    narciso (d1f714)

  160. 166 Will the liberal tears be as great after the midterms as after Trump’s election or have they learned to control their disappointment?

    Nate Ogden (223c65)

  161. They will blame the Russians as they already are doing with air claire.

    Narciso (20d182)

  162. It’s a,blunt approach, like a siege engine

    http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0718/thiessen072718.php3

    Narciso (20d182)

  163. Paul Montegu hardest hit

    Since you called me out, Haiku, the link says, “This Tweet is unavailable.” Do you have a point?

    Paul Montagu (1ff0e3)

  164. And Hillary had a 95% of winning, right Mr Montague.

    And what’s that supposed to mean, exactly?

    Paul Montagu (1ff0e3)

  165. So by wills own standard was Reagan a socialist?

    Narciso (20d182)

  166. Can you distinguish between defense (necessary) and non defense expenditures.

    Narciso (20d182)

  167. 172… here’s the trailhead, Montagu… I’m told tweets are often removed, especially when they reflect poorly on rising leftwing stars… https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/07/27/axios-jonathan-swan-fact-checks-alexandria-ocasio-cortez-and-its-brutal/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    The one removed was one that said, “politifact, do your job”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  168. So by wills own standard was Reagan a socialist?

    No, but nice try at the whataboutism. Trump is a Pat Buchanan on trade, not a Reagan.

    Paul Montagu (1ff0e3)

  169. The one removed was one that said, “politifact, do your job”

    Okay, but why didn’t Mr. Houck have the courage of his convictions by deleting the tweet? But I do note that Politifact has a file on her and, so far, did not fact-check her comments on Trevor Noah, but if that’s enough to maintain your pointless ad hom argument, well, whatever.

    Paul Montagu (1ff0e3)

  170. We know politics has been legendary in its avoidance of the deception of left wing claims ‘You can keep your doctor, and your plan’ while denying the legitimacy of right wing claims.

    Narciso (20d182)

  171. Donald Trump is leading a double life. – John Miller.
    Donald Trump is leading a double life. – John Barron.
    Donald Trump is leading a double life. – David Dennison.

    “So am I.” – Rudy Giuliani:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IrE6FMpai8

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  172. so disco, what politico figures impressed you, did Obama give you a tingle, like Matthews,

    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/fifa-world-cup-2018/qatar-alleged-to-have-used-ex-cia-to-sabotage-australia-s-world-cup-bid-20180730-p4zuck.html

    narciso (d1f714)

  173. It’s Deja vu all over again, meanwhile mercury is still lobbying for Russian interests, and podesta gets away Scott free.

    Narciso (6693b3)

  174. Collusion is 8 years of rinos on their knees in front of soros

    mg (9e54f8)

  175. In one way or another mg, campaign finance, drug legalization, voter fraud, amnesty, you name it he and steyer are a one stop shop.

    Narciso (6693b3)

  176. Scary schiff, narciso.

    mg (9e54f8)

  177. Indeed it is, you don’t live on Maui right?

    narciso (d1f714)

  178. Kamuela on the Big Island.

    mg (9e54f8)

  179. Trade winds a blowing today no vog from the goddess of fire-
    It s on the way to Guam.

    mg (9e54f8)

  180. While we wait for our host or his associates to give us some free ice cream (h/t Lileks), let us hear from one of the folks our Trump fans love to hate, the retiring Senator Flake. What’s on his mind? Crickets:

    Mr. FLAKE. Madam President, who wants to eat bugs for lunch? I am hearing crickets, even among the pages here.

    Now, there is a reason for that, but the National Institute of Food and Agriculture at the USDA is spending more than $1.3 million to support cricket farming in the development of bug-based foods for human consumption. This sounds like a headline straight out of The Onion, but it is not. It is your hard-earned taxpayer dollars being used to try to develop a taste for crickets and other bugs.

    This initiative is trying to determine which bugs taste best, which bugs are most nutritious, and the best methods for farming bigger, tastier crickets.

    Now, while the USDA has no plans to inspect cricket farms and the FDA has “no special rules for edible insects” at this time, multiple bug-based companies have received Federal funds to research and develop techniques to put bugs in your food.

    For example, Bugeater Labs–I am not joking here–Bugeater Labs of Nebraska has received $100,000 of taxpayer money–this is a grant–to identify the most edible insects. With support from the USDA, Bugeater is testing bug-based pasta, ramen, and macaroni noodles.

    Now, to get bugs into the food, the crickets are ground into a powder and mixed into pasta dough. Bugeater hopes to secure another $600,000 in Federal funds to cover the cost of developing and manufacturing a commercial-ready product made from bugs.

    Now, separately, All Things Bugs of Georgia–I am not kidding. Again, that is a real company–has received nearly $1.3 million for reducing the cost and improving the efficiency of farming crickets as food ingredients. They currently produce and sell cricket powder with “mild aroma, neutral flavor, and minute particle size that can be added to recipes.” Four pounds of crickets are required to produce 1 pound of powder. A pound of cricket powder produced by All Things Bugs, which
    boasts “the most affordable wholesale price,” sells for about $35 a pound. By comparison, the average retail price for 100 percent ground beef is about $3.80 a pound.

    The United States has more than 2.5 billion pounds of beef, pork, poultry, and turkey being stockpiled. This is a record level. Clearly, a new source of protein is not needed and, in this case, likely not wanted.

    In fact, the CEO of one of these cricket cuisine companies said yesterday:

    Realistically, as much as we wish people would behave differently, Americans won’t buy significant amounts of insect protein. If most were asked to volunteer to eat a bug, the response would be–

    As we heard here–

    crickets.

    With, I should note, the annual commemoration of Pioneer Day in Utah, I think I can speak for many of my own ancestors, who nearly starved thanks to swarms of crop-destroying crickets, when I say inspect-based food development will not be stomached well by taxpayers.

    Today I am proposing an amendment to end the Federal agriculture subsidies for farming of insects and to prohibit spending taxpayer dollars to develop bug-based food for human consumption. I can’t
    believe it takes an amendment to do this kind of thing. It is my understanding it is being included in the manager’s amendment and will likely succeed if it is.

    I would just say this is not going to balance the Federal budget, but at a time when the Office of Management and Budget is projecting trillion-dollar deficits in 2019 and beyond, how can we pay money and have grants of over $1 million to pay companies to try to get people to eat bugs? It doesn’t pass the laugh test, and people simply have to have more faith in their government than that.

    I hope this amendment will pass. I hope we aren’t forced to eat crickets. That doesn’t seem like anything anybody wants to do, and we shouldn’t be forcing taxpayers to pay for it.

    Now, this man is a dirty never trumper. I ask you, Trump fans…will you defy this evil corrupt cretin and add crickets to your diet? And more, will you laugh maniacally as you get us anti-Trumps to pay for your insect diet? Can you make that sacrifice?

    Appalled (96665e)

  181. When it matter hes at best utterly useless, an enabler of the Castro regime, an facilitator of Roberts care, as they say crickets

    narciso (d1f714)

  182. Not that many people have nieces like that.

    She’s basically relying on other people, thinking they have figured it out.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  183. Now, this man is a dirty never trumper. I ask you, Trump fans…will you defy this evil corrupt cretin and add crickets to your diet?

    Sure, why not. They sell them at Safeco Field, but I don’t want my government to subsidize them. BTW, they sell like hotcakes. Next time I go to a Mariners game, I’ll see if I can get some.

    Paul Montagu (84878a)

  184. Appalled (96665e) — 7/30/2018 @ 8:15 am (Edit)

    What’s old is new again. When I was in high school we spent a semester studying Colorado history, especially from the pioneer era. We learned that back then bugs were often consumed as a cheap and reliable source of protein. At the end of our Colorado history unit, one of the students or maybe the teacher (my memory is fuzzy) brought in cricket cornbread for us to eat. It was a matter of pride as a teenage boy that we ate a piece, because we knew it grossed out the cheerleaders and we delighted in hearing them squeal in horror. I remember it being edible, but nowhere near as good as green chile cornbread.

    JVW (30a532)

  185. I just read the other day that the mayor of Denver, first elected in 1923, was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, which had organzied in that state in 1921. He survived the fall of the Klan and continued as mayor for some 20 years. There is now some controversy about his name on things.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  186. Part of tthe last comment there:

    … vilification of Israel is just part of the political package. That and, political opportunism, of course.

    It’s just less [sic – should be more] than obvious that she’s ever [sic should be never] thought deeply about, or had original ideas about, much of anything.

    Evidence to the contrary would be news; evidence that she’s on board with all Leftist politics that are fashionable, not so much.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  187. The bad thing is that she (nor anyone else) can rely on :”the conventional wisdom”

    Of course there are different conventional wisdoms.

    When she’s thrown back on her own devices, she speaks nonsense.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  188. Is Dave the one that claimed to be conservative?
    Is Wendell for real?
    Has DASACAS regaled everyone with his tales of pulling Maggie Thatchers pig-tails while they played hopscotch in front of the Russian embassy on Christmas Eve of ‘72, while sipping an Old Fashioned, and talking about their mutual lust for Von Braun?

    JD (ec3581)

  189. I would say that the most edible insect is lobster, and that the most eaten is shrimp.

    nk (dbc370)

  190. Yes that’s him jd are you still doing the ironman

    Narciso (2c4ee6)

  191. Wendell had me faked out with the first few, he might be the yang to DCSCA’s yin.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  192. wendell sounds a lot like Perry. Perry is the unsuccessful version of Bernie Sanders. Literally. A super-leftist septuagenarian, now an octogenarian. He “likes” Trump for the same reason DCSCA does — that Trump is totally f’king up the GOP forever.

    nk (dbc370)

  193. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/03/socialist-candidate-ocasio-cortez-once-saw-herself-as-smithian-capitalist-viewed-feminism-as-relic.html

    During her time at Boston University, where she studied economics and international relations and graduated in 2011 with cum laude honors, she described herself as a believer in Adam Smith’s analyses and wrote a number of blog posts hinting at her views, according to posts reviewed by Fox News.

    “Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez believes in Mahatma Ghandi’s methods, Adam Smith’s analyses, and Pablo Neruda’s love. Her experiences growing up in a Puerto Rican household, from the boroughs to beyond, has afforded her a uniquely American experience with all the tragedy and hilarity it accompanies,” she described herself in a student-run publication called BU Culture Shock, which she co-founded.

    In a 2009 blog post, Ocasio-Cortez called feminism into question, writing that “the terms ‘feminism’ and ‘empowerment’ don’t seem to capture the priorities of our generation, and the words themselves sound like relics from the past, frumpy and outdated.”..

    {She wrote] in a 2009 post that while health care in the U.S. is “at its most critical crossroads” in recent history, the debate about it is moving slowly for a “good reason.”

    …“There’s just no doubt about it,” Howard Husock, a Manhattan Institute senior fellow, told Fox News about Smith being a polar opposite of the New York socialist. “First of all, Adam Smith believed so strongly in price signals, which are telling us what’s desired, what’s being offered, it allows people who are selling things to adjust their prices to meet demand – they’re just central to how the whole economy works.”

    “So as soon as you have Medicare for all, you essentially are abolishing price signals when it comes to health care. Because the government is not just a one more competitor or one more choice. It kills the whole playing field,” Husock added.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  194. Hey, wait a minute, a carbon tax will harm middle class and below fossil fuel energy users. Please explain how using the revenue for Medicare instead of to compensate these people for energy use will fly. Thank you.

    bordenl (2b9352)

  195. /Addresses howling void

    @205: Depends if Medicare-for-all is another name for single payer or another name for the public option. I think in Ocasio-Cortez’s case it’s the first.
    The round of finger-pointing that we went through about who is responsible for high drug prices indicates that health care is not a market where price signals are giving the public good information in the first place. Depending on what is right for each patient each treatment may have its own little monopoly where the drug companies and hospitals can charge whatever they want. The price signal tells people how desperate the sufferers are to have the treatment. Although on the individual consumer level people do not have to worry about cost much if they are on Medicare, on the government level price gives information about the long-term stability of Medicare. Price is also not distorted by pharmacy benefit managers and other such intermediaries. A single-payer program on the level of a state might show how the government could lower costs without lowering benefits to taxpayers.

    /Addresses howling void

    bordenl (2b9352)

  196. Because there is no question that the whole reason to get the government involved in healthcare is to lower costs for the whole society. Politicians can simply argue that healthcare and defense should not be a certain crazily high fraction of the federal budget.

    bordenl (2b9352)

  197. Juan Cordio may have handed the 2016 election to the republicans.
    Build the ####ing wall.

    mg (9e54f8)

  198. Mollie Tibbetts blood is on the hands of the democrats and rinos not getting the wall built when the money was allocated years ago.

    mg (9e54f8)

  199. R.I.P. Ed King, guitarist/songwriter for Lynyrd Skynyrd on their first three albums

    Icy (df4bf1)


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