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2/11/2018

Media Loves Them Some North Korean Dictators

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:52 am

I guess they’re excited because Kim’s monster of a sister frowned at True Devil Mike Pence or something. Anyway, the signs of the fawning suggested by the headline are everywhere, but the attitude is nicely summed up by this now-deleted tweet by Certified Idiot (I once made the mistake of having a Twitter exchange with him so I know) Jeet Heer:

Heer Jeet Idiot

CNN is joining in with a vengeance. Here is just one ridiculous headline among many:

CNN Idiots

Allahpundit says it so I don’t have to curse:

Tough but fair.

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

147 Responses to “Media Loves Them Some North Korean Dictators”

  1. Are you polishing the Pence turd of succession? Wax on, wax off

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  2. If she hadn’t scowled, her brother would have fed her to dogs or used her as an artillery target.

    nk (dbc370)

  3. There was story about Doug Jones’s alternate-lifestyle son scowling at Pence, at Jones’s swearing in, too. The media must have the word out to their tipsters: “Look for people who scowl at Pence.”

    nk (dbc370)

  4. So if you look on people who are forced to eat tree bark, then ago we know how the media hid mengustus attempt at holomodor.

    narciso (c6b0ae)

  5. NPR reported that 1,200 people at the Korean Olympics were quarantined for dysentery. Did anybody else?

    nk (dbc370)

  6. There will seldom be a greater scandal than how the media hid mengustus attempt at holomodor.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  7. Holomodor is the starvation of the Ukrainians by Stalin — their “Holocaust”.

    nk (dbc370)

  8. 5, I did in a previous thread, where I intoned it was part of a plot.

    urbanleftbehind (9adb35)

  9. By contrast Juanita was the black sheep of the Castro clan, she had a little shop in Miami, wrote her memoir after about 40 years.

    If course raul gay daughter Marcela was fetid some years ago, like a movie star when she visited new york

    narciso (c6b0ae)

  10. Mengustus is an Ethiopian name. (Peace be unto Mr. Google.) Starvation in Ethiopia, narciso?

    nk (dbc370)

  11. Thank you nk. I was thinking you were referencing a lord of the rings videogame.

    They hid it well.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  12. It,was an orchestrated famine, the point is we are the world obscured the reality

    Ted Turner was the first to clap so strenuously like a distempered seal.

    narciso (c6b0ae)

  13. Can’t help noticing Kim’s sister is looking a little gaunt. Even the Royal family is missing meals in NorK.

    Kim Jong is always the fattest person in any picture.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  14. The New York Times
    @nytimes
    The North Korean “army of beauties” cheered on the unified Korean women’s hockey team

    ——

    Anthony L. Fisher
    @anthonyLfisher
    The North Korean “army of beauties” cheer with such convincing passion you wouldn’t even know they fear for their lives.

    harkin (8256c3)

  15. We should be glad that the sis and Pence don’t talk to each other. Trump and Macron talked to each other and we got this parade idea. Pence might marvel about execution by artillery and then….

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  16. Lol NBC not knowing enough history and speaking for all Koreans regarding how they feel about Japan.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/winter-olympics/nbc-apologizes-to-korean-people-after-correspondents-ignorant-insensitive-comment/ar-BBIXGgh

    harkin (8256c3)

  17. Screw this hag, Id rather see more of Yura Min than we got to see last night.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  18. narciso referenced it. I only decoded it.

    nk (dbc370)

  19. CNN proves again that there is indeed such a thing as evil vapidity.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  20. “NPR reported that 1,200 people at the Korean Olympics were quarantined for dysentery. Did anybody else?”

    nk (dbc370) — 2/11/2018 @ 9:11 am

    Gives whole new meaning to “bad dog!”??

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  21. “The young woman in question is one of Kim Jong Un’s closest advisers — “a powerful member of Kim Jong Un’s kitchen cabinet,” as CNN puts it. And the regime she faithfully serves is beyond weird. It starves its own people, operates Nazi-style prison camps, represses political opposition, and executes senior officers and even members of the dictator’s (and his sister’s) own family members in an effort to maintain dictatorial control.

    Even the most ardent feminist shouldn’t take any pleasure from the fact that a young North Korean women serves this murderous regime capably and may be its future leader. And it is obscene to compare the influential servant of what may well be the world’s most brutal regime to Ivanka Trump.

    What American mainstream media outlets like best of the dictator’s sister, I suspect, is that she enables them to claim that Vice President Pence, who is also in South Korea for the Olympics, has been upstaged. That’s the take of ABC News, for example. Our media’s hatred of President Trump, and of conservatives like Pence, runs so deep that it will shower praise on anyone who can be used as a foil, even a top associate of a murderous tyrant.”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2018/02/11/media_fawns_over_murderous_north_korean_regime_434015.html

    harkin (8256c3)

  22. Only two body types in NorK. Endomorph and Kim Jong un.

    Save a lot of money at the clothing store. One size fits all.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  23. Another thread that will allow beenburned to screw teh pooch…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  24. Harkin… lol… CNN… another “powerful” member. When her time comes, she’ll get a bullet behind the ear instead of an RPG to the face…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  25. “If course raul gay daughter Marcela was fetid some years ago, like a movie star when she visited new york”

    Was it teh humidity or poor personal hygiene?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  26. Re Stalin and his genocide-by-starvation (with its roots going back to earliest Bolshevik times), and how the Germans and Russians compared with each other (and with other monsters like Mao & Pol Pot) as measured by multiple and comprehensive statistical indicators — in short, a sickening but absolutely compelling look into the 20th Century’s most evil empires — I highly recommend Timothy Snyder’s Bloodlands: Europe Between Hitler and Stalin.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  27. We should rethink our strategy regarding NorK. Scout a spot with a bunch of hungry people, send a stealth plane full of food rations and bullets (they don’t have bullets in their guns at those big showy parades when Kim appears) they’d have a revolution in a week.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  28. As soon as the Olympics are over, we should starve that country out.

    Lyrics Don't Matter (82f609)

  29. It was a typo but I let it stand, the problem is the food goes to the army and the other elements of the Capitol.

    narciso (364166)


  30. 1.Are you polishing the Pence turd of succession? Wax on, wax off
    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 2/11/2018 @ 8:57 am


    Sometimes you should keep you mouth shut. Especially when you’re siding with genocidal fellow communists against the American Vice President who is doing nothing more than representing us and doing a nice job so far.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  31. I was thinking of that. That’s why we need to scout a spot remote from the military. Although they’ve had military defectors cross over who report the soldiers are starved also.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  32. Naw I like when Ben stakes out a universally reviled position. Good for you Ben. Tell us again who you voted for in the general election.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  33. CNN, comrade Ben’s! go-to station for impartial propaganda.
    http://patriotretort.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/01-CNN-Hitler.jpg

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  34. Gives whole new meaning to “bad dog!”??

    I suspect the fruits and vegetables from the type of fertilizer they use. I mentioned it before. But, yes, there would be cross-contamination to other foods in preparing the meals.

    nk (dbc370)

  35. Reuters Top News
    @Reuters
    North Korea judged winner of diplomatic gold at Olympics

    —-

    David Burge
    @iowahawkblog
    Hitler’s It Girl Eva Braun Wows Swells at 1936 Olympics

    harkin (8256c3)

  36. How long before she has #MeToo scrawled on her forehead while wearing black?

    random viking (6a54c2)

  37. Say what you want, but the Norks have an obvious plan, and it’s working.

    Their overarching goal is to drive a wedge between the ROK and the US. Part one was goading our Dotard-in-Chief into making increasingly ridiculous empty threats, completing their ICBM while he did nothing but rage on Twitter.

    Part two went into operation with the Olympics, and involves seducing the ROK with the prospect of progress in their bi-lateral relationship. Simply getting invited to the games after spending the past year threatening the US with nuclear ICBM attack was a major coup that we should have never allowed. And Pence is playing right into their hands by saying idiotic things and making more EMPTY THREATS.

    If the Norks having nuclear ICBMs that can hit the US is the new normal, then Spanky & Co. need to come out and admit their failure, and start the process of accommodating our policy to it. Otherwise, they need to stop making empty threats and DO something about it.

    Dave (445e97)

  38. Naw I like when Ben stakes out a universally reviled position.

    Pence, the Gardener has fans outside the 35cents?

    Your universe is tiny.m

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  39. If the Norks having nuclear ICBMs that can hit the US is the new normal, then Spanky & Co. need to come out and admit their failure,

    Ah, it’s Trump’s failure. Got it.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  40. Watching the Masters Agility Championship at Westminster.

    Dog olympics. So fun. The dogs really play for the crowd.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  41. My universe features food on the table.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  42. The fetid fruit, of the albright framework has born its fruit, after 20 years

    narciso (d1f714)

  43. Trump and Pence have been in office for a year, and so far state internal security forces have only forced me to watch public executions where enemies of the state are blown apart by anti-aircraft guns, what, four times? They do it at the local high school football stadium because the opposite end of the amphitheater provides a good backstop for the 25mm rounds. That’s nothing compared to the Kim regime, although feel free to share your experiences because maybe the program is further advanced in other parts of the country than here in Texas.

    Jeet Heer is an idiot, so maybe we’ll see the above reported as actual news in one of his tweets (do I really need a sarc tag?). No, Trump and Pence haven’t done anything to make the Kim family look good by comparison. It takes a special form of insanity to even contemplate the thought.

    It reminds me of how an actor decided to take center stage and lecture Mike Pence about how scared he was of the coming fascist dictatorship when Pence decided to catch the play Hamilton on Broadway.

    This sort of public preening is an obscene form of moral cowardice. No actor in Nazi Germany would have dared to take center stage and lecture Hitler’s no. 2, Heinrich Himmler about his personal and political shortcomings. Why? Because Nazi Germany actually was a fascist dictatorship and that would have been suicide. Nobody in any actual dictatorship of any kind would dare do what this actor did. But by doing it, this actor demonstrated he knew perfectly well that Trump/Pence are not fascist dictators so he could rudely accost the V.P. in public in complete safety. While at the same time complaining about how scared he was for his safety.

    He just demonstrated he wasn’t at all scared for his safety. As I said, it takes a special form of insanity to even contemplate the 21st century version of “Republicans are worse than Hitler.” Now it’s “Trump/Pence are worse than the Kim regime.”

    By the way, if Kim Yo-Jong is Kim Jong Un’s answer to Ivanka Trump, shouldn’t der Donald have her brother assassinated to complete the analogy?

    Few people other than the LHMFM, academics, the members of the CPUSA, and illegal immigration advocates believe that. This is why I don’t believe the GOP (for all its failings) won’t lose control of Congress and that Trump will win a second term. All the usual caveats about how a lot of things can happen between now and November, let alone 2020. But the more time that passes and people still reject the “Trump/Pence are worse than the Kim regime” insanity/stupidity the more the LHMFM doubles down on it.

    It’s precisely because of low-intelligence loons like Heer that I don’t do twitter. But I was following his meltdown over at Twitchy. After he deleted the original tweet he decided everyone was being “deliberately obtuse” and do what I believe is called a tweetstorm. Where he tweets something, then quotes his own tweet an writes a follow-on tweet. Then repeat over again until the whole world wonders, somebody actually employs you? Because nobody was being obtuse except Heer who was clearly born that way. Along with stupid and insane, because as he detailed exactly what was going in his head that he confuses for thought everybody who witnessed his self-inflicted public humiliation had the satisfaction of knowing we had him correctly calibrated the first time. He’s a whackjob who if there’s anyone in his life that cares about him (big if) would have him committed against his will.

    But he’s not alone. I expect more stories from outlets like CNN who are having a slobbering love affair over North Korea’s Director of the Propaganda and Agitation Department of the Worker’s Party of Korea. Or ABC that says CNN is wrong, it’s the 230 member NORK cheerleading team that is stealing everyone’s heart at the Olympics.

    They’re not stealing anyone’s heart, again, unless you spent too much time in school getting dumbed down or already hated America.

    And who can forget NBC’s Lester Holt, who along with his bosses decided he could more effectively carry the murderous dictator Kim Jong Un’s water if he was actually in tongue-bath range. So he went to North Korea and begged to be used as a propaganda tool.

    https://yesimright.com/nbc-reporter-goes-north-korea-likes-sees-sense-optimism/

    Because it’s just WRONG not to hate Trump more than Kim Jong Un, Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin, or Hitler. We must hate Trump as much as the LHMFM and if we’re not getting the message it’s because were not merely bigots, racists, xenophobes, homophobes, Islamophobes, imperalists, colonialists, militarists, and running lackey dogs of the warmongering cisgendered heterosexual white male christofascist patriarchy.

    We are deliberately obtuse bigots, racists, xenophobes, homophobes, Islamophobes, imperalists, colonialists, militarists, and running lackey dogs of the warmongering cisgendered heterosexual white male christofascist patriarchy. And we need to be lectured even more intensely.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  44. Simply getting invited to the games after spending the past year threatening the US with nuclear ICBM attack was a major coup that we should have never allowed.

    Dave you really think President Trump has that kind of juice? You’re mistaking him for President of the world.

    And Pence is playing right into their hands by saying idiotic things and making more EMPTY THREATS.

    You mean VP Pence inviting Fred Warmbier, father of murdered Otto Warmbier, to sit in the box with him, while Kim Jong’s sister looks on, ducking her head in shame? I thought it a master stroke.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  45. Yes there is a decided lack of perspective:

    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/02/a_night_at_the_crying_in_our_beer_salon.html

    Jet her revived all doubt in the national post as a Proust’s
    summarizers, self styled strauss expert

    narciso (d1f714)

  46. Get er done Steve!

    papertiger (c8116c)

  47. Chauncey Beenburned

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. Dave @ 2/11/2018 @ 11:04 am, newsflash: South Koreans aren’t buying it. It has something to do with knowing that the NORK regime routinely beats, starves, imprisons in death camps, and murders their own citizen. Plus there’s the constant threatening to wipe out Seoul in a “sea of fire.”

    Say what you want, but the Norks have an obvious plan, and it’s working.

    It’s amusing that you think their plan is working, but then I haven’t been an amateur observer of the NORKs since the early 1990s. But thanks for your brilliant observation that the NORKs would like to drive a wedge between the U.S. and the South. That’s very original; no one has ever thought of that. And this must be, what, the 10th “charm offensive” the NORKs have tried since Kim Il Sung died. Nobody could have seen this coming. Nobody but you, Dave. Why don’t you write a point paper and send it to the Pentagon because we’re walking right into their trap.

    We used to joke that for almost anyone else combining the words “charm” and “offensive” would be an oxymoron, but with the NORKs it was perfectly descriptive.

    I’m also amused, based on the rest of your comment, that you seem to believe the V.P. headed the delegation to the winter Olympics without doing extensive coordination with the ROKs. Especially about the whole North Korean issue, not just the Nukes.

    Get a grip, and don’t spout off about things you don’t know about. Unless of course you’re actually looking for work at CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, the WaPo, the NYT, the LAT, etc.

    If that’s the case, then please, feel free.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  49. Apparently Dave thinks if the NORK cheerleaders form a pyramid, it’s game over. The alliance is kaput.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  50. 43… well said, brother!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  51. ConDave on the mental grift… give, brothers, until you can give no more…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  52. narciso referenced it. I only decoded it.

    narciso’s comments often make obscure references that illuminate the comment once you understand them. It just takes Googling plus (oftentimes) some guessing as to which key he mis-hit. I don’t always have the energy for such decoding but I appreciate it when others do.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  53. 47, you sure the ideal is not state #51?

    urbanleftbehind (9adb35)

  54. If the Norks having nuclear ICBMs that can hit the US is the new normal, then Spanky & Co. need to come out and admit their failure, and start the process of accommodating our policy to it. Otherwise, they need to stop making empty threats and DO something about it.

    Dave (445e97) — 2/11/2018 @ 11:04 am

    1) There is no other kind of ICBM other than nuclear so that’s a useless redundancy. Others have tried with other types of WMDs and learned it’s just an inefficient way of incinerating your chemical and biological agents.

    2) ICBM stands for Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. Again, another useless redundancy to say, “that can hit us.” Of course it would hit us. Unless you’re secretly Barack Obama, who though the US had built an “intercontinental railroad” back in the 19th century (the tales those engineers must have had to tell after driving those trains across the Pacific and Atlantic!). You don’t need an intercontinental ballistic missile to hit any target in Asia (the word our genius 44th President was looking for was transcontinental) because, ta da! It’s the same continent that the Korean peninsula juts out from. You need an intercontinental ballistic missile to hit other continents. And we sit on the only other continent worth aiming at.

    3) Yeah, if the NORKs have developed “nuclear ICBMs” it’s Trump’s fault entirely. It isn’t like anyone else had a hand in it…

    http://nsroundtable.org/files/8613/2917/4723/18938210308_kH4kW.jpg

    It isn’t like Kim Il Sung started a missile R&D program back in the 1960s. No, we learn from Dave that the Norks have a magical ability to just s**t nuclear weapons and missiles out of their arses whenever they receive mean tweets. So within months they had a brand new capability that neither they nor us have ever imagined they’d acquire.

    Thanks for the update, Dave. Why don’t you put that in your point paper and send it off the the Pentagon as soon as possible. You’ll wow them with your genius. And I’m not joking; there can be no other reaction other than, “Wow, Dave.”

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  55. cnn hatey
    hey somebody get a rope
    leftwing useful tools

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  56. Yes murderous famine was more clear, Cuba had the labor camps umap? I knew a fellow who was a ‘guest’ there, Venezuela seems go have copied the Ukrainian pattern where applicable.

    I do t think statehood is a realistic option, although its probably
    Y more effective than say Puerto Rico.

    narciso (d1f714)

  57. The end product:

    https://t.co/4Q0gfGpYuP

    narciso (d1f714)

  58. CNN is channeling Walter Duranty in hopes of getting a Pulitzer, like Dave is channeling Dear Leader with the Dotard reference.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  59. If you ever have an awards banquet I nominate BB for Perfect Attendance.

    He never fails to show up and hate-f*** the commentariat. He’s more dependable than David Berkowitz.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  60. @ steve57, re your #43: That was a good read, sir. And Twitter delinda est.

    Re how well the NORKs’ plan is working in South Korea, I genuinely dunno. I do know that useful idiots continue to try to help the NORKs.

    I don’t live in South Korea, and have never been (but would love to go). I doubt many Americans noticed it at all, but I remember the sinking of the ROKS Cheonan. How, after that, you could invite that woman to sit on that platform, I’m not sure I understand; it’s not what I would have recommended, but it’s not my platform. Apparently it didn’t cause a riot, which is really kinda what I think it should’ve done, and might’ve elsewhere if you’d brought someone comparable into such a position.

    I’ve no particular fault to find with VP Pence, although I confess that I have a hard time telling when he’s supposed to be acting stiff and wooden, as I’ve read him described, and the “regular” Mike Pence. I have done enough business litigation involving South Korean companies to have at least a modest grasp of the importance that the South Korean mega-conglomerates in that society; I’ve read that the South Korean military likewise punches above its weight politically; I can’t imagine that the leaders from either of those groups are much charmed. So I’m hoping, anyway, that this ends up being empty symbolism. Regardless, Olympic Games end; the NORKs haven’t changed and won’t. So something else will effectively overwrite most of the symbolism of this photo op, I likewise hope.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  61. People still hate Pence so much some of them are still mocking him for not being alone with women despite all the evidence that it’s a great policy.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  62. 61, perfect attendance is not the prize one might think it is…in my elementary school days all it got you was some upper deck Thug Sox tickets.

    urbanleftbehind (9adb35)

  63. Oops, meant #60

    urbanleftbehind (9adb35)

  64. I do remember what my friends who served in Vietnam had to say about the ROK troops they served with, they said ROK guys were plenty tough.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  65. It’s all particularly rich given that the libs were screaming about how wrong it was to try to normalize Trump with Ivanka interviews and fluff pieces. That was before the MSM stuck their collective finger in the air and gsiged it was time to shift gears of support.

    The Washington Post made a point to note that Kim Jong’s sis has “fine ears”.

    Dana (023079)

  66. Dave you really think President Trump has that kind of juice? You’re mistaking him for President of the world.

    Oh baloney. It was the ROKs who decided a month ago to bend all the rules to get the Norks into the games, even though none of them except two skaters had qualified, and even though they had missed all the deadlines. If the ROKs don’t know which side their bread is buttered on, it’s up to Spanky & Friends to focus their attention.

    Instead, we have the humiliation of seeing the country that was threatening, just a couple months ago, to turn our cities to nuclear ash (while proving, with impunity, that they can) being given the royal red-carpet treatment by the ally that we’re putting everything on the line to defend – complete with cheering squads, dance troupes and the dictator’s evil bitch sister.

    You mean VP Pence inviting Fred Warmbier, father of murdered Otto Warmbier, to sit in the box with him, while Kim Jong’s sister looks on, ducking her head in shame? I thought it a master stroke.

    And that brought the Norks’ ICBMs closer to destruction, how, exactly?

    But I’ve apparently triggered Steve57:

    1) There is no other kind of ICBM other than nuclear so that’s a useless redundancy. Others have tried with other types of WMDs and learned it’s just an inefficient way of incinerating your chemical and biological agents.

    The missile and warhead are two different systems; the combination of the two is a third (and more dangerous) system. When Trump took office, they had nukes, but not miniaturized to fit on a missile, and not missiles that could carry them to the US. Now they have both. #MAGA.

    2) ICBM stands for Intercontinental Ballistic Missile. Again, another useless redundancy to say, “that can hit us.” Of course it would hit us.

    When Trump took office, their long-range missiles capable of carrying a nuke didn’t have the range to hit us. Now they do. #MAGA.

    3) Yeah, if the NORKs have developed “nuclear ICBMs” it’s Trump’s fault entirely. It isn’t like anyone else had a hand in it…

    He’s been in office for more than a year while all was happening, and done NOTHING except violate the Twitter Terms of Service by making empty threats. The history of the problem is irrelevant – it’s gotten immeasurably worse during Trump’s first year, while he has done nothing except act like the clueless dolt he is.

    Dave (445e97)

  67. The position of the Vice Presidency is evolving into impeachment insurance.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  68. Pence has the intellect of broccoli..so the dumba$$ is the lesser evil, but measured in thousandths

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  69. Winter Olympics; Team Penguin.

    “Phineas J. Whoopee, you’re the greatest!” – ‘Tennessee Tuxedo’ [Don Adams] CBS TV, 1963-66.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  70. The Never Trump freeriders on the Democrat’s Pence deductible must be made to pay The Iron Price.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  71. Dave you really think President Trump has that kind of juice?

    papertiger (c8116c) — 2/11/2018 @ 11:37 am

    I don’t suppose you ever watched Deadwood.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  72. And that brought the Norks’ ICBMs closer to destruction, how, exactly?

    IS that the goal? I thought we were just going to attend the opening of some games in the home of a strategic ally.

    We moving to slow on your timetable, Dave? Elon Musk has rockets for hire if you want to kick things off on your own.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  73. Juice?

    papertiger (c8116c)

  74. I wish you’d learn to talk American!

    papertiger (c8116c)

  75. Beldar, I’m glad you enjoyed my comment. Although long, I felt it needed to be said. The special kind of insanity that these people who insist “Trump/Pence are worse than the Kim regime” includes a large dose of cognitive dissonance. In order to declare that we’re living in a fascist dictatorship, they have to act in ways that demonstrate they know we’re not living in a dictatorship of any kind. Yet, they applaud each other’s “courage?!?!?”

    During the Bush 43 era people actually sold “I’m afraid of George Bush” bumper stickers. You could stick those on your Prius and let every one else who had all the correct attitudes know that you shared all the same correct attitudes. But, if you’re really afraid of the dictator “Chimpy McHitlerBurton” you don’t stick a bumper sticker on your car telling the world that sort of thing. I don’t understand how people can engage in this sort of mindless attitude signaling (I realize the popular phrase is “virtue signaling” but this doesn’t even rise to that level) and can still just assume they’re at all bright.

    I agree with you about the Cheonan (PCC-772). I spent a few pleasant hours aboard the Anyang (PCC-755) and the officers of the wardroom made me feel right at home even though the skipper felt compelled to apologize to me over lunch that, “We do not have the special food for foreigners” (I told him I was just fine with the excellent food they had served). Not the Cheonan’s sister ship but a patrol corvette in the preceding Donghae class. Very similar to the follow on Pohang class of which the Cheonan was one. Very similar, just slightly smaller with a more primitive weapons and sensor suite. It infuriated me seeing the Director of the Propaganda and Agitation Department of the Korean Workers Party sitting there. For all I know some of the officers and men who were so hospitable and gracious to me aboard the Anyang were killed when the NORKs sank the Cheonan.

    Still, I understand the big picture. And I will let you in on this, Beldar. Yes, the NORKs have a plan. I don’t believe it’s working on anybody who doesn’t still want to be fooled (if you still want to be fooled, I’d say you have a bright future at CNN or ABC). But then we have a plan, too. This is the first NORK “charm offensive” we’ve been through. Absolutely everything Pence did had been choreographed with both the South Korean and Japanese governments. Everything from not standing for the entrance of the NORK athletes to supposedly snubbing the leading NORK official at ROK President Moon’s Olympic Eve reception.

    I’m sure I don’t have to explain this to you, Beldar, but all of that was choreographed ahead of time. If you read the press reports they’ll say something like Pence was “expected” to sit across from the head of the NORK delegation and therefore honorary head of state. Moon had no such expectations. He knew Pence planned on only staying five minutes. And then not standing. Guess who was sitting to Pence’s left in the VIP box? Japanese PM Shinzo Abe. Who also didn’t stand for the NORK athletes. They were essentially actors who knew their roles perfectly. There were no surprises there for anybody, most especially including Moon’s government. People who emote instead of think didn’t seem to notice that everything was done on purpose, and for a reason.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  76. Looks like Steve57 has dear old Dave sputtering. Nice. Yes, Dave everything in North Korea is Trumps fault. You really need to get a job at CNN. They’d love you there. Hahahaha. MAGA.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  77. not standing for the entrance of the NORK athletes

    Well if that doesn’t get Kim to dismantle his ICBMs, nothing will!

    Yes, Dave everything in North Korea is Trumps fault.

    I never said that, liar.

    Look, if the situation was too far gone to do anything about, Trump could have said “I’m giving up” and tried to blame it all on Obama. But he didn’t. He promised that everything that has happened in the last year wouldn’t happen. And he kept promising that it wouldn’t happen even after it had happened.

    Did he promise to solve the problem? Yes.

    Has he solved the problem? No.

    Has the problem gotten worse instead? Yes.

    Is there any indication that we can expect more than continued useless, empty bluster? No.

    Dave (445e97)

  78. No hoagie. Trump is mentally incompetent. The blame rests with his enablers…like you.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  79. 61, perfect attendance is not the prize one might think it is…in my elementary school days all it got you was some upper deck Thug Sox tickets.

    urbanleftbehind (9adb35) — 2/11/2018 @ 1:31 pm

    So throw in season tickets. He’s worth it.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  80. Your tortured dreams involve chasing frisbees, humping legs and outwitting broccoli.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  81. It was a great deal, pray he doesn’t change the terms:

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43025356?SThisFB

    narciso (d1f714)

  82. I wish you’d learn to talk American!

    papertiger (c8116c) — 2/11/2018 @ 2:40 pm

    Al’s two favorite words apply to at least two people I can think of here.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  83. Decades of enabled bad behavior isn’t solved overnight, ConDave. Show a little patience.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  84. “Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  85. Decades of enabled bad behavior isn’t solved overnight, ConDave. Show a little patience.

    So how many more empty threats on Twitter do you figure it will take?

    Dave (445e97)

  86. About as many useless posts from a totalitarian sympathizer like you. You and I both know that if the NORKs disarmed tomorrow, you’d be on to your next b*tch and moan session.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  87. NorK military parade [jpg]

    Those look like AK 47 without the butt stock – yes?

    Couple thousand rounds of ammo, rained out over the countryside, where a regular North Korean who has had it up to here with Kim Jong and his crap can find it, and stash it away in his bung hole for the right opportunity.

    North Korean problem solves itself.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  88. How does BB not have phlangitis? I remember almost 30 years ago I played my guitar for seven hours in a row and my fretting hand swelled up.

    You might say it was…dis-concerting…

    Yeaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  89. Pin, I think you meant Mister Wu.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  90. M-O-O-N spells “Dave”, Laws yes.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  91. Pin, I think you meant Mister Wu.

    papertiger (c8116c) — 2/11/2018 @ 3:38 pm

    True, but who was his Sifu?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  92. It would be fun if there were a 100 Kim Jong-un impersonators to march in our military parade.

    The Marching Kims Drill Team to troll past CNN headquarters.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  93. For the first two seasons that and “Swejin” were the only English words Wu spoke.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  94. Hang dai – which I gather is chinese for allies? Co conspirators?

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100129061153AAqc3Uu

    Ah – It is Cantonese for brother. Makes sense.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  95. fressing hand

    Did you get some on the Blue Dress?

    Hand jobs are better than rape.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  96. Licks on guitar are often auto-erotic and pin imagines an external instrument.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  97. Dave @ 2/11/2018 @ 1:38 pm, if by “trigger” you mean laughing out loud at your ridiculousness then yes you triggered me.

    As for the details in your version of the House Intel Committee rebuttal to my comment, you’re absolutely crushing it, Dave. Make sure you put all those details in your point paper to the Pentagon.

    The history of the problem is irrelevant – it’s gotten immeasurably worse during Trump’s first year, while he has done nothing except act like the clueless dolt he is.

    Dave (445e97) — 2/11/2018 @ 1:38 pm

    Has it gotten immeasurably worse under Trump? “When Trump took office, they had nukes, but not miniaturized to fit on a missile.” That’s odd, Dave. The NORKs set off what they claimed to be a miniaturized nuclear (hydrogen) weapon on 6 January 2016. Oh, and in February 2016 NORAD reported publicly that the latest NORK attempt to place a satellite into orbit had been a complete in success. The satellite was stable in orbit and was active. The NORks had been claiming success since, I believe, 2011. But the satellites were tumbling in orbit and were essentially useless. We didn’t consider them a success. The NORKs considered them successes; they had after all put payloads into space, and they had achieved orbit. Really, it all depends on what they were trying to do, such as ballistic missile development. Now, stop me if I’m wrong, Dave, but 2016 wasn’t the first year of the Trump administration. But clearly you know that the NORKs claims couldn’t have possibly been true even though we do know their claims about their satellite launches were true even by our standards in February 2016.

    Make sure you note in your point paper the exact state of the NORK nuclear/ballistic missile programs at 11:59a.m. 20 January 2017, the minute before Trump was sworn in as President. And cite your sources. That’s the kind of information the Pentagon is going to need to evaluate your claim that things have gotten immeasurably worse under Trump, and clearly you have this information at your fingertips. As I said earlier, I haven’t been an amateur observer of North Korea since the early 1990s. But then it’s a whole new ball game when we have a President named Obama who is stupid enough to infuse Iran, a country that has been cooperating with North Korea on nuclear and ballistic missile technology for years, with billions of billions of dollars worth of cash. I mean Obama admitted that “some” of that money would go to terrorism. I guess he didn’t have the imagination or intelligence to understand it might go to, umm, other projects. That kind of cash, unmarked bills in various currencies stacked on pallets and flown to Tehran in unmarked cargo planes, could conceivably speed things up. And, damn, I thought somebody in the vast apparatus of the executive branch might be doing something about it. But our government is broken, frozen in place, nobody working, as long as Trump has a twitter account.

    Thanks for the inside information about Trump doing nothing. And thank you for expressing your interest in national defense.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  98. The Progrssive Left have not yet met a Communist dictator they were not prepared to fellate, at least until such adulation became untenable, even in their circles.

    C. S. P. Schofield (99bd37)

  99. In actuality, the knowledge of the miniaturized warheads had been known since 2013, oddly this is one piece of intelligence, Obama chose neither to share or react to.

    narciso (d1f714)

  100. Of course his tagline forgets kryptonite isnt real

    https://mobile.twitter.com/owillis/status/962801352975011841

    narciso (d1f714)

  101. You know if the Klingons attack, Dave will be TOTS among military experts. Don’t be so quick to dismiss him, Steve.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  102. For the first two seasons that and “Swejin” were the only English words Wu spoke.

    papertiger (c8116c) — 2/11/2018 @ 3:49 pm

    San Francisco C********* is almost foreshadowing.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  103. narciso @ 2/11/2018 @ 4:10 pm, yes, I know. And the February 2013 (which wasn’t Trump’s first year in office) could conceivably been such a weapon. But it wasn’t until January 2016 (also not Trump’s first year in office) that the NORKs publicly claimed they had successfully tested such a weapon.

    But none of this can be right. All the really major advances that made our security situation exponentially worse (such as miniaturizing nuclear weapons to fit in ICBM warheads) couldn’t have possibly happened, according to Dave, until Trump’s first year in office.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  104. Ten day Wu. Look at that. Send you away, and you come back with more English.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  105. Over the years I’ve been sort of playing with the Deadwood scripts, trying to use the quotes in something like context of the days post.

    Never figured to use Mister Wu quotes.
    So Thank you for that Pin.

    Scratching it off the list . Done. In the bag.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  106. Of course there are the remo Williams with master chin of sinanju

    narciso (d1f714)

  107. Don’t fret Ben. Nobody can prove Pete Townsend fingered you in 1969.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  108. Word on the street is Ben likes Lefties to flip him over and string him upside down.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  109. Scratching it off the list . Done. In the bag.

    papertiger (c8116c) — 2/11/2018 @ 4:33 pm

    The writing was very much like the original True Grit.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  110. With new precision, the clown beenburned returns
    The leftwing lair, the typing of a worm
    Typing his empty thoughts, he smokes a cigarette
    It circles ’round the drain, in time we’ll all forget

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  111. Can someone tell me who Jeet Heer is and why anyone would care what he says? Best I recall, I never heard of him until last night when my Twitter feed began making fun of this tweet.

    Kishnevi (ebf823)

  112. He used to be at the national post as their designated lefty, I think he issouth Asian, so he brings the lefty sjw background at the new republic.

    narciso (d1f714)

  113. found his photo online. Not an experience I would suggest to the faint of heart.

    Kishnevi (ebf823)

  114. He does have a froggish mien, on early recollection.

    narciso (d1f714)

  115. Good Lord Narciso, he’s anywhere from Bollywood Juan Gabriel to really fat Jon Lovitz.

    urbanleftbehind (9adb35)

  116. #MeToo. Never heard of him till now. No reason I should have. I just saw that he works for The New Republic. Nuff said.

    nk (dbc370)

  117. But now I wonder if he’s Bun Burn.

    nk (dbc370)

  118. The
    Latest. Gossip concerns Jose jose a once prominent crooner who has reached a William hickeyish pallor,,and yet the stalkerazi ponder why they moved him to Miami?

    narciso (d1f714)

  119. Buzz with the belated self-prez motivation. But what if she was trying to use her wiles with Pence toward escaping, the joke would be on her.

    urbanleftbehind (9adb35)

  120. I hadn’t considered that. Its real life game of thrones over there.

    narciso (d1f714)

  121. Ha! a fat Jon Lovitz back from a Palm Springs vacation…

    https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/7/71975/4552251-5886578823-jeeth.jpg

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  122. Meanwhile Tapper, whether for reasons of prudence or other, deviates from the party line
    https://mobile.twitter.com/jaketapper/status/962816431195938817

    Kishnevi (ebf823)

  123. The Koreas are like the Germanies. Not players. Not even cards. Just chips in the game between America and China, like the Germanies were between America and the USSR. I suspect that China will rake them in eventually. Very sad.

    nk (dbc370)

  124. But I like this headline: Mirai Nagasu becomes first American woman to land triple axel in Olympics

    Picture of American woman Mirai Nagasu.

    Link to story.

    nk (dbc370)

  125. You sure it’s not Ralphie May back from the dead Cuba Diving

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  126. nk, you know potato! So maybe you know joke about time Khrushchev visit pig farm, yes? No?

    Photographer shoot picture of Chairman Khrushchev in middle many pigs. Take picture to editor so newspaper can print. But editor cannot decide on caption. “Comrade Khrushchev among Pigs”? “Comrade Khrushchev and Pigs”? “Pigs around Comrade Khrushchev”? None will do.

    Editor drink vodka, make decision. Caption will read: “Third from left — Comrade Khrushchev”!

    (Joke stolen from a recent spy novel, “Red Sparrow,” that I’ve just started as a change of pace.)

    Beldar (fa637a)

  127. If I were the RNC, or even Trump, I would be running the CNN, ABC, etc, spots where they say nice things about the wicked witch of the north, then add “HAVE YOU NO SHAME?” along with their complaint numbers.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  128. The North Korean “army of beauties” cheer with such convincing passion you wouldn’t even know they fear for their lives.

    And the lives of everyone they know back home.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  129. Frankly, anyone who praises these NK monsters is no better than a Hitler apologist. Possibly worse.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  130. Say what you want, but the Norks have an obvious plan, and it’s working.

    Yes, it is. They know that the US has any number of useful idiots in the media and they intend to make it impossible for Trump to stop them from a nuclear breakout. Once they HAVE that nuclear breakout, they will invade the south and threaten the US mainland with attack should we intervene.

    Which will be Trump’s fault.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  131. Diplomacy is back to the days of exchanging hostages. Only in this case the hostages can stay at home.

    Pinandpuller (ec52bf)

  132. 130… yes nk! America… the best the world has to offer.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  133. Beldar:
    A Soviet judge, coming out of his chambers, sees another going into his with tears running down his face. He calls out, “Why are you crying, Ivan Mihalovich?” “They’re tears of laughter, Mihail Ivanovich”, says the other judge. “I just heard the funniest anecdote.” “Tell it to me, please”, says the first judge. “Not on your life”, says the second judge. “I just sentenced a man to ten years for it.”

    nk (dbc370)

  134. Why would anyone turn on CNN? But hurt that your dream doll in a pantsuit got her azz beat?

    mg (456fc3)

  135. Never seen so many cheerleaders cheering as if their lives depended on it. Because it did.

    Colonel Haiku (1d71cc)

  136. The Olympic coverage is pitiful. ABC in the 60’s and 70’s had the coverage down pat

    mg (456fc3)

  137. I actually called NBC and complained about Costas and the honey boo boo du temps talking over the closing ceremonies of the Athens Olympics. I got a live person and she seemed to sympathize. (Yes, yes, I know!)

    nk (dbc370)

  138. If it isn’t NBC twinkwaffles writing insulting nitwitteries about SoKo perceptions of Japan, it’s the others sucking up to the spiderlady of the NORK propaganda machine to sate their thirst for Trump administration blood.

    Colonel Haiku (1d71cc)

  139. Alphabet Assholes

    Colonel Haiku (1d71cc)

  140. It’s a great novel, I certainly didn’t see Lawrence in the title role, the ethnically themed recipes at the end of each chapter are a nice touch

    narciso (d1f714)

  141. 130… yes nk! America… the best the world has to offer.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/12/2018 @ 3:29 am

    We are the best the world has to offer. As my sidekick, Low Westwoman, would tell you. Not her real name, a play on her name, the girl who came to the US as a Vietnamese boat person. And then put on the khaki to get some revenge.

    And I’m all for that. Racist.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)


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