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4/18/2017

AP Ignores Its Own Stylebook Rules When Claiming Fresno Shooter Shouted, “God Is Great”

Filed under: General — Dana @ 5:46 pm

[guest post by Dana]

There was a horrible shooting today in Fresno, California which left three people dead. According to reports, Kori Ali Muhammad fired 16 rounds in one minute, and was arrested right after the shooting.

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Fresno Police Chief Jerry Dyer says the suspect in a shooting that killed three people in downtown Fresno shouted “God is great” in Arabic and had posted on social media that he dislikes white people.

All three victims in Tuesday’s killings were white. The police chief says they were shot minutes apart in close proximity in areas around downtown.

Thirty-nine-year-old Kori Ali Muhammad was arrested shortly afterward. He was already wanted for a separate killing from last week, in which a Motel 6 security guard in Fresno was gunned down.

Dyer says police have called the FBI to assist in the investigation. He says the suspect made other statements to police but did not disclose what they were.

According to the AP Stylebook, quotation marks encase the exact words of the writer or speaker in the story. According to witnesses, Kori Ali Muhammad shouted “Allahu Akbar,” not “God is great”.

Given this inaccuracy, and given the AP’s proud boast that “For 170 years, we have been breaking news and covering the world’s biggest stories, always committed to the highest standards of objective, accurate journalism,” it might be time to re-think their claims. I’m beginning to suspect that these official fact checkers might not be too reliable.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

47 Responses to “AP Ignores Its Own Stylebook Rules When Claiming Fresno Shooter Shouted, “God Is Great””

  1. I can’t figure out why Big Media doesn’t want us to take them seriously.

    Dana (023079)

  2. Yes, he is and, after all, how can any God-fearing American disagree with that?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  3. Of course, the Fresno police chief said the suspect yelled “Ollie Ackbar”, so who knows…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  4. I admire their restraint. I was expecting them to quote him as saying “Jesus loves you.” Maybe next time?

    windbag (a5c631)

  5. with these associated press propaganda sluts

    it’s narrative uber alles

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  6. I wonder if we can license Islam.

    Michael Ejercito (462fbe)

  7. Was watching a soccer recap show the other day and the reason given for the delayed game for the Dortmund team (due to a coordinated bomb attack against the team by Islamic terrorists, luckily only one player injured) was described as a “team bus security issue”.

    They are absolutely terrified of offending the people who wish to terrorize and subjugate them….and oh yeah Erdogan is telling all Turks in Europe to have at least five kids because they are the “future of Europe”.

    But sharks!!

    harkin (dbcc1e)

  8. Organizations like CAIR – and others – tell people Allah should be translated as God because it means God.

    Some people claim that Allah is not the same thing as God but I think that’s nonsense, even if historically, before Mohammed came along, Allah was the name pagan Arabs used for the chief God.

    The person who shouts Allah-hu-Akbar before killing people has a different concept of what god approves of, not a different concept of what God is.

    The word Akbar, by the way, doesn’t mean “great” but something more like “mighty” and tgaht’s the real wrong translation.

    Sammy Finkelman (0c3646)

  9. The Associated Press did say he said it in Arabic. It may be within their stylebook to translate exact quotes that were said in another language.

    Of course the importance of this is that he said it in Arabic, and that gives you the flavor of this.

    An interesting question would be: Did he say anything about ISIS? Or some other group? Did he put anything on Facebook? And how long has he been a Moslem? What kind of Moslem was he? of he hates white people, he sounds like a black Muslim, but they are much diminished and are not advocates of going out and committing terrorism. Did he find a new preacher, or what? We’re not getting the full story here, you know. At least not fast.

    Sammy Finkelman (0c3646)

  10. There is no excuse for the AP’s blatant attempt to misinform the public. Their motives are crystal clear: the AP refuses to acknowledge the incestuous link between African American racism and Islamic terrorism.

    The link is clear from Louis Farrakhan’s Black Muslims to Reverend Wright’s ‘God Damn America’ to Barack Obama’s multiple treacherous betrayals. However, unwilling to inform readers of an obvious myth destroying truth, the AP instead blithely violates the most sacred of journalism’s standards.

    It’s who they are, and it’s the business they’re in. Propaganda always masquerades as news.

    ropelight (2715b3)

  11. I don’t know how the police chief can know this already:

    We do not believe this is a terrorist-related crime, Dyer told reporters. “This is solely based on race.

    Dana (023079)

  12. Except he targeted Catholic charities, like Merah the first jihadi killing on French soil targeted Jewish schoolkids, like the hoaxer Juan thompson

    narciso (7f6293)

  13. Going by the link in Dana’s post, I doubt he was targeting the charity. Or at least, not only the charity.

    A resident says a victim of the Fresno shooting that left three men dead was lying on the sidewalk leading to his front door and had appeared to be carrying groceries.

    Stephen Hughes says he and his wife rushed home Tuesday after receiving a frantic call from a neighbor. They saw a body draped in a blanket.

    Hughes said he’s lived for 40 years in the home, which is in a neighborhood lined with tall, mature trees.

    The blanket was later removed and replaced by black screens, from which a pair of feet in black shoes and white socks could be seen. Nearby was a bag of groceries, partly spilled.

    The man’s identity wasn’t released. Another victim was a utility worker sitting in a work truck and a man gunned downed in a charity parking lot.

    Nation of Islam uses the phrase “white devils”. Any other groups use it?

    kishnevi (c62fd3)

  14. Good catch, Kish. That would rule out much of the Shia and the “Black” Russians and the Bozzies. That’s also quite deductive -as in not mentally impaired- of the peep to target legacy institutions (power co., Catholic chsritued); he knew not much non-cholo white meat on Fresno’s bones.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  15. Muslim opinion polls galore – take your pick and look at the intolerance…..

    https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx

    Small sampling:

    Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
    ICM (2016): 2 in 3 Muslims in Britain would not report terror plot to police.
    People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
    Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
    16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is “acceptable”.
    Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
    35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
    42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
    ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.

    The religion of peace……

    harkin (36810b)

  16. rganizations like CAIR – and others – tell people Allah should be translated as God because it means God.

    Some people claim that Allah is not the same thing as God but I think that’s nonsense, even if historically, before Mohammed came along, Allah was the name pagan Arabs used for the chief God.

    The person who shouts Allah-hu-Akbar before killing people has a different concept of what god approves of, not a different concept of what God is.

    The word Akbar, by the way, doesn’t mean “great” but something more like “mighty” and tgaht’s the real wrong translation.
    Sammy Finkelman (0c3646) — 4/18/2017 @ 7:06 pm

    The clear meaning is that Our God Is Greatest.

    AZ Bob (f7a491)

  17. Another Star Wars fan. Damn Admiral Ackbar.

    NJRob (233ed3)

  18. #14 Dana – The weasel’s out is that the predicate word “organized” is unproven.

    As for the Stylebook…I got into a couple of knockdown, dragout fights with my journo professors over just how strictly one needed to observe it. I got the feeling that I was being heretical to some religion and the high holy priests were punishing me. It is no coincidence that it is cavalierly abandoned to prop up the left’s narrative. This is NOT a minor corruption.

    The few AP reporters I knew professionally were devoted to getting the story right and to documenting the heck out of everything. Good people. They told some fun stories about how their editors (the now famous “buffers”) punished colleagues who messed up.

    This organization most definitely puts the “AP” in “crap.”

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  19. So in the land of the ten round magazine that equals one reload. Almost one shot every four seconds.

    American Jihadis do more praying and less spraying apparently.

    LAPD shot at two paper delivery women during the Dorner mayhem and missed 103 times.

    Pinandpuller (ab7bc5)

  20. Given this inaccuracy…

    Umm…what inaccuracy? His meaning was reported accurately, and there is a clear indication that he was not speaking English. The phrase “‘God is great’ in Arabic” is semantically equivalent to the phrase “Allahu akbar.” Are you this outraged when they cut out “um”s and “ah”s from a speaker’s spontaneous constructions?

    What a stupid thing to rant about.

    Oh, excuse me. That should be “what a stupid thing about which to rant.” I don’t know how you feel about prepositions, but I don’t want to be the next target.

    Demosthenes (09f714)

  21. I’m sure the AP this series of murders on racism, but we’ve got plenty of racists who don’t go around shooting.
    That failing, the AP would like to blame the gun, but Fresno is a largish city in Gun Controlifornia.
    If they push that angle they call into question the whole concept.

    So AP moves onto insane youth, except the killer is middle aged, and no more insane than Lady Gaga (bless her heart). Notice he gave up pretty quick when the other people with guns showed up. Still alive to make monkeys out of the AP when they push that narrative.

    SO now we get to “alluh Akbar” which is the heartr of the matter, and thanks much Mr Killer Islamic Convert, for removing the last shadow of doubt.

    What does the AP do? Dips into they’re “style book” to throw shade on what’s plain as the sun.

    You think the LAPD expressed doubt over the righeousness of the shoot among themselves while reloading?

    papertiger (c8116c)

  22. The latter expression suggests motive, much like the jackalope in Kansas, just hang him promptly, now there is usually a pattern that ties to larger movements like Dallas and bAton rouge and dormer (was that before the official somelives matter came into being.

    narciso (d1f714)

  23. Obviously not dormer, I still resent got for killing her off soectacularly

    narciso (d1f714)

  24. So he’s a tool of doha who worked with one of the awan bros on tip over’s staff

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/democrats-fail-to-flip-the-sixth-in-georgia-special-election

    narciso (d1f714)

  25. Either way a loss in GA-6. Handel in her previous campaigns ran to the left of the Deal/Perdue crowd, a Tuesday groupie for sure.

    And Dallas/Baton Rouge kept Trump from going full Bulworth.

    urbanleftbehind (416948)

  26. Kramer might have been good but she got no support, who’s running this dog and pony show.

    narciso (d1f714)

  27. Deal is nothing to write home about, a top man all the way willing to peddle mind arson.

    narciso (d1f714)

  28. Explanation or link, Nars. He had some irregularities with his family’s salvage business and got into that criminal justice reform miasma almost as bad as Uncle Jerry, but he’s been stalwart on immigration and firearms.

    urbanleftbehind (416948)

  29. I suppose ulb, ymmv, I had more than a decade years under Debbie doofus, so a same rep is a luxury

    narciso (c470b8)

  30. It looks like this person was his own religious authority. He gave himself a name. He also posted videos on YouTube. In which he said he hated white people (maybe he said other things, too)

    He was arrested a few times, one time at least for making terrorsist threats (but terrorist threats doesn’t mean Islamic or any organization)

    Meanwhile, the Facebook killer, when cornered, killed himself. He had not actually posted the killing live.

    Sammy Finkelman (0c3646)

  31. Thats nothing, I spent most of my life under the designated black Democratic South Side Chicago district and then 2 years in one of the connective tissue sections of Luis Guiterrez’ district. Now I live in a very competitive district (at least between RINO/Dem) in the north suburbs that goes back and forth- Dold – Schneider – Dold – Schneider again. I think AZ got it right in that their redistricting system actually has 3 or 4 of these bouncy districts.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  32. Misunderstood now this guy, crimethink eleventy

    http://www.newsweek.com/ezra-cohen-
    watnick-donald-trump-devin-nunes-russia-barack-obama-wiretap-susan-583904

    narciso (c470b8)

  33. The person who shouts Allah-hu-Akbar before killing people has a different concept of what god approves of, not a different concept of what God is.

    The word Akbar, by the way, doesn’t mean “great” but something more like “mighty” and tgaht’s the real wrong translation.

    Sammy Finkelman (0c3646) — 4/18/2017 @ 7:06 pm

    AZ Bob (f7a491) — 4/18/2017 @ 8:39 pm

    The clear meaning is that Our God Is Greatest.

    No, it doesn’t mean that at all.

    It means that the one and only God, who is called Allah, or maybe that’s a term for God, whose wishes or commandments you are guilty of ignoring or defying, and maybe whose nature you are misrepresenting, but in any case, who is behind the person saying this, is POWERFUL so he even though one looks weak, one will win. The word “Akbar” doesn’t translate into “great” at all in English. It is cognate to the Hebrew “Gibor” as in Isaiah 10:21.

    I know there are people saying that there are people saying that Moslems have a different God, but that’s only in order to say they are pagans. What they’ve got is different scripture and special prophet and varying opinions about what that prophet taught or what can be learned from him. They themselves sometimes may regard Christians as pagans of a sort.

    Sammy Finkelman (0c3646)

  34. Only Tommy the dude and Marie larf need apply.

    narciso (c470b8)

  35. Is AP going to always consistently use the term “God is Great” for “Allahu Akbar”?

    Or is AP going to call it “Allahu Akbar” whenever it appears in a context that makes Islam look good, and call it “God is Great” whenever it appears in a context that makes Islam look bad?

    Why not translate it into “Yahweh is Great” or “Jesus is Lord”? After all, the AP has already decided that Allah is God, so what does it matter which name they use for God?

    Daryl Herbert (7be116)

  36. All of that Quranic stuff is supposed to be read in the original Arabic.

    Pinandpuller (d6578e)

  37. @41, yet I’m the s***head. I think 1400 years of crap might bring one to pause. But that’s juistme/

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  38. 41. Pinandpuller (d6578e) — 4/19/2017 @ 12:50 pm

    All of that Quranic stuff is supposed to be read in the original Arabic.

    That is why Arabic supplanted the langiages originally spoken from Morocco to Persia, where it stopped.

    Aramaic got replaced, also Greek and Coptic.

    Sammy Finkelman (4591c3)

  39. I was reading an article by an RAF pilot. It was about his love affair with a captured Italian plane. Beautiful aircraft. Lousy fighter.

    The Italian did succeed in the end by sabotaging his plane.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  40. I tried learning Arabic from tapes, but it was a pyrrhic exercise, any place where they offer the hadith and sunna in translation.

    narciso (ebbe87)

  41. So salami was under fbi surveillance at the same time he was being Feted at the Pentagon, re judicial watch. Like al sunna in the Vatican advisory counsel in silva’s the messenger.

    narciso (ebbe87)

  42. Sorry al banna, and silva didn’t chose that name randomly, I’m sure tariq had advance forces when crossed into spain.

    narciso (ebbe87)


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