“Study: Popular ObamaCare plans to see double-digit premium hike”
If you like your plan, you can pay lots more:
Premiums for the most popular ObamaCare plans are expected to rise by an average of 11 percent next year, according to new research that will likely fuel GOP attacks against the healthcare law.
Health insurers are seeking steeper premium hikes in 2017 than in previous years, according to a report released Wednesday by the Kaiser Family Foundation. The report offers the most comprehensive — and alarming — data so far about the premium costs that ObamaCare customers will see when they renew their coverage this fall.
Not to worry! Help is on the way this November! Americans face a stark choice this election season, between a candidate who likes the ObamaCare mandate, and a candidate who likes the ObamaCare mandate.
Yay
Patterico (fb172b) — 6/15/2016 @ 8:59 amyou pay more for a higher deductible even
food stamp is so so proud how many uninsured people now have mandatory insurance they can’t afford to use
this is why hillary needs to withdraw from the race and focus on kegel exercises
happyfeet (a037ad) — 6/15/2016 @ 9:02 amWe are screwed.
Steve Malynn (1d7837) — 6/15/2016 @ 9:13 amThat’s if your insurer doesn’t opt out of ObamaCare exchanges all together, like Blue Cross has done in New Mexico and I think is doing so in Illinois.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/15/2016 @ 9:29 amAmericans face a stark choice this election season, between a candidate who likes the ObamaCare mandate, and a candidate who likes the ObamaCare mandate.
I’m trying to warm to the presumptive GOP candidate, so I’m hoping that maybe he is so inattentive and uninformed that he’ll accidentally sign a repeal bill if a GOP Congress gives him one.
JVW (eabb2a) — 6/15/2016 @ 9:30 amMost people aren’t as relentlessly proud of their stupid.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/15/2016 @ 9:32 amAs long as your heads up there anyway, might as well check for polyps.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/15/2016 @ 9:34 amHe has said he wants to repeal Obamacare. Connecting rising Obamacare premiums to Trump based on his support for some kind of mandate is a non sequitur.
Gerald A (76f251) — 6/15/2016 @ 9:38 amI find it royally annoying when reporters get their talking points from the WH press office.
Calling any Obamacare plan “popular” is complete BS. It would be like calling the remaining three deodorants “popular” if Bernie Sanders could get his wish and ban as many as possible because children are starving due to Americans having too many choices (?!?!?).
“Popular” is not the right way to describe “what people buy when forced by Barack Obama and the IRS.”
It would be like describing lethal injection as the most “popular” method of execution among death row inmates who also have the option of hanging and the gas chamber.
O/T, after people opposed to capital punishment discovered they couldn’t convince a majority of their fellow citizens that the practice was morally wrong, they had to come up with other arguments. One of which is the notion that capital punishment should be banned as cruel and unusual punishment because, the detractors say, there is no painless and humane form of execution. The “cocktail” of drugs in a lethal injection permits the prisoner to experience pain. Some people who would have us ban all forms of execution even insist that the lethal injection drugs cause pain.
Why do we still entertain this idea?
Because at the same time states are legalizing doctor-assisted suicide using, you guessed it, lethal injections of drugs.
In Europe there have been bizarre spectacles of prisoners sentenced to lengthy prison sentences deciding that life in prison isn’t worth living. And in countries where it’s legal to commit suicide for any reason whatsoever, or at least with a doctor’s concurrence that a person’s situation is causing “anxiety” or “mental anguish,” courts have ruled that the government must supply that individual with the resources to commit suicide.
I.e. a doctor willing to help and the lethal drugs so they can “die with dignity.”
The very same drugs it would be cruel and unusual to execute a prisoner with because it may cause intolerable pain.
Seriously, you just can’t have it both ways.
Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/15/2016 @ 9:42 amWell, a double-digit increase isn’t that bad…
Oh, a double-digit percentage increase.
CayleyGraph (353727) — 6/15/2016 @ 10:07 amTrump position re ACA
Gerald A is correct as of this moment.*
*Trump positions can only be evaluated on a momentary basis due to the certainty of abrupt change dependent solely on perceived self benefit by Trump.
Rick Ballard (45aac8) — 6/15/2016 @ 10:25 amAmericans face a stark choice this election season, between a candidate who represents a continuation of the policies which have all but destroyed our economy, alienated our allies, flooded our nation with illegal and unvetted immigrants, reduced our armed forces to dangerously low levels, ignored the rule of law, used the institutions of government to thwart the rights of citizens, and repeatedly lied to cover up outrageous crimes; and a candidate who wants to change tacks and put the ship of state back on course.
The choice is stark and represents a break with a dismal past or an opportunity for a better future.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/15/2016 @ 10:26 amThe choice is stark and represents a break with a dismal past and an opportunity for a better future.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/15/2016 @ 10:43 am“destroyed our economy, alienated our allies, flooded our nation with illegal and unvetted immigrants, reduced our armed forces to dangerously low levels, ignored the rule of law, used the institutions of government to thwart the rights of citizens, and repeatedly lied to cover up outrageous crimes”
Well… he did promise Change.
Though in fairness, Bush did most of this outrageous stuff, too. Just not as well.
“The “cocktail” of drugs in a lethal injection permits the prisoner to experience pain.”
For religious reasons, I’m obliged to oppose capital punishment, but in theory anyway, the solution here is simple. Just anaesthetize the prisoner first, as if prepping for surgery, then administer the drugs when the prisoner is unconscious.
I imagine the objection is simply throwing any sock at the wall to see if it sticks, but I’m surprised, since the practice still has broad support.
hunson abedeer (cacaf3) — 6/15/2016 @ 11:01 amIn McSame links in order of their appearance:
1. a prominently displayed unlabeled leftist forgery of a Donald Trump tweet.
2. the pigeon hole and slurring of your more rational fellow Republicans.
3. Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos spun as treason.
4. Hopelessly out of date (wrong even when it was fresh by my estimate) accusation that Trump kept the Veterans charity money for himself.
5. Saying he’s willing to deal with Democrats is somehow equal to or worse than “Read my lips no new taxes”
Bookmark this list for the next time.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/15/2016 @ 11:05 amThere are more Trumpkins on Medicaid than there are Hillary supporters on Medicaid. To them, Obamacare is a pure gift paid for by working people. Other Trumpkins are on Medicare, VA, and various public employee and retiree health insurance — they couldn’t care less, they’re getting their share of the welfare. The people who have to pay these premiums wouldn’t piss on either Hillary or Trump if they were on fire and Hillary and Trump know it, so we don’t count in their political calculations.
nk (dbc370) — 6/15/2016 @ 11:30 amThe Democrats don’t care. Their constituents won’t pay the increase — the taxpayers will foot the bills. Only the self-employed who have been the national sacrifices to this clusterfu** will be screwed. Again. If they had not insulated the folks on employer plans, or Medicare, this would have died in the crib like Hillarycare did. But they learned. Take EVERY bad thing and drop it on the backs of 5% of the people — all of whom vote for Republicans, and you’ve got a winner!
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/15/2016 @ 11:38 amI would imagine that the Trumpkins are on disability, too. If they’d paid into the SS system they’d be on Medicare, but they probably worked under the table because they’re stupid and now they’re on SSI and Medicaid because the Mexicans have all the good hod-carrying jobs.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/15/2016 @ 11:42 am*Trump positions can only be evaluated on a momentary basis
Really, you have to apply the Uncertainty Principle. You cannot know both Trump’s position and Trump’s momentum at the same time. And the Trump Uncertainty Constant (T-bar) is YUUUUGE.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/15/2016 @ 11:46 amObamaCare isn’t a gift, it’s a rip-off. Tax payers get ripped funding the subsidies, enrollees get ripped paying ever increasing monthly fees, and enrolleed get ripped with high deductibles – over $5000 for middle of the road (Silver Plans).
Which means that an individual enrollee must pay out of pocket at least $5000 in combined (approved) medical expenses, plus keep their monthly fees up to date before ObamaCare spends the first nickle.
Most enrollees don’t accumulate $5000 in medical bills but they still have to pay monthly fees. Abusers of ObamaCare can wait till they’re in need of serious medical care and sign-up at the last minute, again ripping off the taxpayers and the individual participating insurance companies.
The whole ObamaCare scam is a rip-off – the taxpayers, the enrollees, the insurance companies – all for the benefit of increasing government revenue.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/15/2016 @ 11:57 am3. Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos spun as treason. (with addendum by Instapundit)
papertiger (c2d6da) — 6/15/2016 @ 11:57 amropelight–
It’s actually both better and worse than you think.
It’s better in that people generally can’t sign up mid-year (unless they just lost an employer plan or something similar). So they can’t always wait until they get sick. But there ARE a lot of sick people who sign up for the first time each December. Diabetics, AIDs patients, etc.
And it’s worse because there are OTHER subsidies that make the DEDUCTIBLES go away. THere’s a plan, available to the working poor (and good liars) called Silver 94, which pays almost everything, for tiny premiums. $100/month premiums at age 50 and $3 copays for seeing the doctor or getting a prescription. Very low deductibles. The income you report has to be under a threshold, but it it goes over for some reason, you don’t have to pay back the lowered copays.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/15/2016 @ 5:14 pm