"We have an incompetent administration, and if I'm elected president, that will not change." — actual quote from Donald J. Trump today.
— Patterico (@Patterico) June 14, 2016
At 4:27:
The perils of combining a badly conceived sentence, a TelePrompTer, and a dumb candidate not accustomed to reading. Oops!
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The saving grace for him is that it’s not a great soundbite for Hillary. But it sums up my feelings perfectly.
Patterico (fb172b) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:06 amBy the way, in case you were wondering, the text he was reading said “if I’m not elected president.” That line was a bad idea from the get-go.
Patterico (fb172b) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:07 amPatterico, I feel your pain. But you know, somewhere in hell H.L. Mencken is laughing his guts out.
The fact is, politics in America has had a major dose of super stupid ever since infancy. Stupid did not begin with Mr. Trump, and it won’t end there either.
Confucius wept.
hunson abedeer (cacaf3) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:11 amTrump is just a red-meat version of Santorum and an northeastern/urbanite friendly version of Sessions. Based on this reasoned, well thought out response to the big question of a couple weeks ago, I might just accept a Trump Sessions ticket and pray to a portrait of William Henry Harrison.
https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/06/13/sessions-trump-was-frustrated-and-said-something-he-shouldnt-have-said-about-judge/
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:11 amTrump isn’t the brightest bulb, but he not as dim as Obama and Clinton.
David Lentz (dd1ea5) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:12 amSessions would probably get me to vote that ticket. With a clothespin on my nose.
Steve Malynn (1d7837) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:13 ami like Mr. Trump he has a lot of grit and incisiveness
happyfeet (a037ad) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:13 amIn his defense, one of the biggest problems many of us have with him is his serial dishonesty. Here we finally have a true statement of fact, even if Trump arrived at it by mistake. Baby steps, baby steps.
cnh (c9c12f) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:17 ampeople who make snide remarks about Mr. Trump are poopers
why so many poopers?
is too many poopers!
happyfeet (a037ad) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:18 amIndeed. This is what I said:
Patterico (fb172b) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:21 amyes yes they are poopers
mr. the donald makes enough snide comments about himself
Patterico (de99b8) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:26 amWell you remember what Bismarck said: God protects drunks, lost children, and the United States.
It’s not clear whether God will protect the United States acting like a drunk lost child. I know He goes in for the Trinity, but whether He likes a trifecta is a different question.
hunson abedeer (cacaf3) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:28 amYou might also convince people that Sessions is really Johnny Carson or Tom Smothers.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:29 amIt’s silly and unbecoming to make a big deal out of an obvious slip to the tongue. Grasp at straws is the mark of a sour grapes loser.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:36 amI’m having a laugh at Mr. Winner’s expense. Try it. It’s fun!
Patterico (de99b8) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:50 amWhenever Trump tells the truth, it’s only because it’s a slip the tongue. Of course, that’s also the case with Hillary.
Liars, liars, pants
nk (dbc370) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:53 amon fireover diapers.Whenever nk tells the truth, it’s only because it’s a slip the tongue.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/14/2016 @ 9:16 am14.
I agree with Ropelight here. This is the sort of thing which the Left mocked GWBush about for eight years. If it was wrong then, it is wrong now.
But I do agree with Patterico about the level of competence to expect from Trump.
kishnevi (c5227a) — 6/14/2016 @ 9:16 amI do NOT agree with comment 17, only comment 14
kishnevi (c5227a) — 6/14/2016 @ 9:17 amThank you for making your agreement specific. You had me scratching my head.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/14/2016 @ 9:22 amThe government is there to preserve disorder.
Ingot (e65940) — 6/14/2016 @ 9:24 amThe government is here to expand at the expense of State governments and American citizens and to preserve special privileges for it’s members and approved clients.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/14/2016 @ 9:54 amyou were saying something,
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/14/appeals-court-upholds-obama-backed-net-neutrality/
narciso (732bc0) — 6/14/2016 @ 9:57 amR.I.P. Henry McCullough, original lead guitarist for Paul McCartney & Wings
Icy (8e169d) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:01 amRe: Trump
Icy (8e169d) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:02 amNot so much ‘dumbness’ as it is an accidental slip of the truth.
really camelbert level of snark, then you grant red queen, sentiment she has no interest in following through,
narciso (732bc0) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:06 amPatterico, you are a fool.
The Obama/Clinton world view is getting us killed.
Left wing ideology has raised a generation of stupid sheep who cannot think.
Everything you do to defeat Trump helps Clinton.
Congratulations, idiot.
Pts (ce7fc3) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:08 amThis video is 33 minutes and 13 seconds long.
Trump indicates he postponed his anti-Hillary speech.
Trump complains we are not talking and acting clearly.
Trump says the killer was boen in Afghanistan. That’s not what the New York Times had. They said he was born in New York. I bet Trump didn’t use his name so
At the time his father came to the United States the Soviets were in control of Afghanistan
Your quote is only a few minutes into the speech.
He will lift the ban when a country perfectly screens its people.
Trump is not distinguishing between immigration and visitors. He really doesn’t.
Good mention of “radical Islamic preachers” It’s the word “preachers that Hillary and Obama needs to use, not just radical and Islamist.
Trump seems to think allowing people to marry people from other countries is a special program.
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:18 am5. David Lentz (dd1ea5) — 6/14/2016 @ 8:12 am
When somebody else writes his speeches.
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:19 amTrump is not distinguishing between immigration and visitors. He really doesn’t.
Given the number of people who overstay tourist and student visas, he should not. And in terms of jihadis, it is a far graver problem than anything coming over the Mexican border.
kishnevi (c5227a) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:24 amSpeaking of competence in security issues
kishnevi (c5227a) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:27 amhttp://abcnews.go.com/Politics/russian-hackers-breached-dnc-network-stole-oppo-research/story?id=39847219
Your argument is convincing in both structure and logic. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?
Patterico (fb172b) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:32 amTrump gave a good speech, alough with a few gaffes like this. He stayed vague and relied on thethe teleprompter, doing his best imitation of Obama. That’s a good thing compared to the Trump we’ve seen up to now.
He also adopted one of Ted Cruz’s proposals that we should temporarily ban Muslims from the Middle East and other countries that have known terrorist activity. That shows Trump (or those around him) can learn, even if his initial instincts are poor.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:36 amwell he borrowed from gaffney’s proposal, which I’ve mentioned here before,
narciso (732bc0) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:38 amOne small reason to vote for Trump: Why should the Democrats be the only Party to elect their pathetic candidate so they can learn a good lesson regarding why principles and morals matter?
DRJ (15874d) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:40 amGaffney was a Cruz adviser. Ted listened to him and defended him. I guess Trump is starting to realize that Ted has all the best advisers.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:42 amgaffney works with schmitz, who was thrown under the bus, during w’s term, because they couldn’t get to rumsfeld,
narciso (732bc0) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:44 amFurthermore, Cruz supported a targeted ban rather than the universal ban Trump and Gaffney wanted. Cruz understands the Constitution and thinks about the goals of his policies. Trump’s responses are always knee-jerk, which is why he has to change them so often.
DRJ (15874d) — 6/14/2016 @ 10:48 am#38, DRJ, Trump proposed a temporary ban till we can properly vet immigrants, Curz proposed a flat 3 year ban. Trump’s ban would apply to Muslim immigrants, Cruz’s ban would apply to refugees from areas held by Islamic terrorists (with a narrow exception for religious persecution).
From the article at your link:
There’s not much difference between the two proposals. Certainly not enough to raise a stink about.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/14/2016 @ 11:49 amOn TV right now: Trump expands Muslim ban proposal. 48% support ban (WAPO/ABC poll).
I’ll look into it. Stay tuned.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/14/2016 @ 11:58 amDRJ is correct, Trump has modified his proposal to include the Cruz provision of a ban on refugees from areas under terrorist control. I’m glad to see that Trump is willing to accept a good suggestion even from a recent competitor.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/14/2016 @ 12:05 pmMr. Trump is always honing his policies so they get better and better over time.
I love that about him.
happyfeet (a037ad) — 6/14/2016 @ 12:19 pmI’m confused. There are more than 300 million people in this country; twice as many as there were in the year in which we triumphed over both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.
We need immigrants why, exactly? Not just Muslim immigrants, why do we need ANY immigrants? Any, at all.
hunson abedeer (cacaf3) — 6/14/2016 @ 12:23 pmhunson abedeer (cacaf3) — 6/14/2016 @ 12:23 pm
1. Not to have immigrants interferes with freedom. If you talk like all power is with the government, you are talking like a Marxist socialist. If you think Congress knows how to plan an economy – you don’t think so, do you anyway?
2. Not having this regulated by law, or having as little as possible regulated by variable law, avoids opportunities for corruption.
3. It spreads fixed costs, like national defense, over more people.
4. It creates a slight tendency to have things invented here, under U.S. jurisdiction.
5. It creates contacts, and allies, all over the world, unless you are really stupid.
6. It makes better jobs easier to find. A doubling of population of a city, for instance will increase wages by about 15%.
7. It tends to make America greater. All places that became great became great because of immigration.
8. It makes the age pyramid more like a pyramid, keeping Social Security more solvent.
A lot of the cities and states having financial difficulties are in suich difficulties because they lost population while havinbg promised pensions. gaining population has the oppsoite effect.
When world population stops increasing there will be a problem.
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/14/2016 @ 12:49 pmropelight (596f46) — 6/14/2016 @ 11:49 am
No, he proposed a ban until other countires can be trusted to vet people. Including of course any country from which people might flee.
Which would accepting no refugees from anywhere. Because any country you would want to accept refugees from would be acountry which you couldn’t trust to vet.
Accepting nobody creates intelligence free zones.
Outsourcing vetting to other countries, which has been going on for years, is ridiculous. It tends to work, as far as terrorism is concerned because most countries don’t want to send terrorists to the United States.
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/14/2016 @ 12:54 pm31. I wondeer if that Dem opposition research will make its way to the Trump campaign. Trump, by the way, has just now revoked the press credentiaqls of the Washington Post.
he says because tehy ran an artivles headlined:
“Donald Trump seems to connect President Obama to Orlando shooting.”
The original headline was “Donald Trump suggests President Obama was involved with Orlando shooting.”
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/14/2016 @ 12:58 pmTrump revoked access to his press pool for one WaPo reporter: Jenna Johnson. The WaPo can send another reporter to cover his campaign. She’s been a snake in the grass from day one.
ropelight (596f46) — 6/14/2016 @ 1:05 pmi hate jenna johnson I do not trust ANY of her content
happyfeet (a037ad) — 6/14/2016 @ 1:29 pm“38.Furthermore, Cruz supported a targeted ban rather than the universal ban Trump and Gaffney wanted. Cruz understands the Constitution and thinks about the goals of his policies.”
Cruz isn’t the 2016 Republican Party nominee. He lost the primary. Let it go. That ship has sailed. Whatever level of ban Cruz supported, it doesn’t matter anymore. He won’t be President this term. Why do you guys keep trying to re-fight a battle that has already been settled?
Policies and goals don’t mean anything unless you get elected. The policies of the guy I preferred were better than Cruz’s or Trump’s. But he didn’t even make it to the first primary election.
“Trump has modified his proposal to include the Cruz provision of a ban on refugees from areas under terrorist control. I’m glad to see that Trump is willing to accept a good suggestion even from a recent competitor.”
Gee, it’s almost as if he is a successful manager and takes good ideas whenever and from whomever he finds them.
“But I do agree with Patterico about the level of competence to expect from Trump.”
SOmehow an incompetent dunce managed to build a multi-billion dollar world-wide real-estate empire.
How many times does reality have to hit you over the head before you start to think that maybe what you believe is contrary to the actual facts?
fred-2 (ce04f3) — 6/14/2016 @ 3:49 pmSomepone mentioned polls. How about this one:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/06/14/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-bloomberg-poll/85888016
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/14/2016 @ 3:57 pmIf the cult pushing Trump actually cared about beating Hillary, they’d tell their guy to step down and let someone run who can win. Tye don’t, though. They’d rather be right than win.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/14/2016 @ 4:00 pmKevin M,
The interesting bit about the Bloomberg poll is the consolidation bounce for Clinton. Trump has been declining in the RCP average since May 22nd. For those keeping score, Romney was at 44.9 on June 14, 2012 compared to Trump’s 38.6 today. I don’t believe the gas bag will continue to deflate for much longer but Romney never broke under 43 during his campaign and Trump’s all time high in the average to date is 44.3. Romney had only hit 46 once prior to this date in 2012, so the 44.3 isn’t really bad but the current 38.6 really sucks.
Rick Ballard (45aac8) — 6/14/2016 @ 4:26 pmSOmehow an incompetent dunce managed to build a multi-billion dollar world-wide real-estate empire.
Leveraging other people’s money so badly he’s gone bankrupt four times. Or is it five? You’d think he was an airline or something.
And of that multibillion dollars, we know how much is his: and for how much his name is merely listed for purposes if bling.
kishnevi (050eae) — 6/14/2016 @ 4:41 pmwe *don’t* know how much is his.
kishnevi (050eae) — 6/14/2016 @ 4:42 pmCheck kiting. https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/example/%5Bfield_short_title-raw%5D_111
Now, imagine doing it, not with just two accounts like Sally in the example, but with 500 accounts of “businesses in which [] is the sole or principal owner”.
nk (dbc370) — 6/14/2016 @ 4:50 pmHe was at one point. Until he failed at that too.
If I had been born into all those millions, I’d be worth billions at 70 years of age, too.
Steve57 (e33d44) — 6/14/2016 @ 4:50 pmToday is Donald Trump’s 70th birthday.
Sammy Finkelman (be1e2f) — 6/14/2016 @ 5:02 pmI thought you had given up on hisruptcy and divining,
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/06/corrected_national_polling_data_shows_trump_in_the_lead.html
narciso (732bc0) — 6/14/2016 @ 5:13 pmMr. Trump is so much better than corrupt urinal woman I don’t even have to tell you which one I save the red velvet donut for (Mr. Trump).
happyfeet (831175) — 6/14/2016 @ 5:18 pmI’m only following the RCP averages, Narciso. The individual polls remain meaningless until after the convention. The betting markets and prediction sites are just following the averages as well in giving ‘ol Bluster and BS his magnificent 1 in 4 chance of prevailing over Clinton. I’m quite sure the neverTrump enthusiasm will not play any part in Trump’s ignominious defeat. Trump and the lackwits who promoted him for a position for which he is completely and manifestly unfit will undoubtedly whine otherwise but they can find the real answer in every mirror they see.
Rick Ballard (45aac8) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:03 pm“At some point, intelligence authorities will have to take seriously American-born Muslims who consume ISIS propaganda and espouse radical Islamic hatred.”
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:05 pmtruly coronello, nothing works as it was designed to, supposed to is a subjective judgement.
narciso (732bc0) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:13 pmso she’s down from 18 to 12, I guess we could call this more selective,
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/06/14/oh-my-gosh-about-that-bloomberg-presidential-poll/
narciso (732bc0) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:18 pmTrump will not be the nominee. Prepare yourselves.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:22 pmoh for the love of swedish gummi fish if it’s pervy pervy mitt mitt I’m gonna have an episode
happyfeet (831175) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:25 pmAnd when the nominee is Romney or Ryan or Walker or whomever, and it’s him or Hillary, I expect to hear a hearty “Who the F cares?” from the Trump people.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:26 pmHF, how would we know if you’re having an episode?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:27 pmi’m very vulnerable right now please don’t be like that
happyfeet (831175) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:31 pmHappyfeet, you are an episode… and I’d really appreciate it if you’d not ask me to tune in again tomorrow and you instead went on hiatus.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:33 pmwe thankfully kept him under 50& both times,
http://www.weaselzippers.us/277485-bill-clinton-if-patrons-of-orlando-nightclub-had-been-armed-more-people-would-have-been-shot/
narciso (732bc0) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:33 pmyeah, I don’t think that would work out well,
narciso (732bc0) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:34 pmI went for a walk in the beach today. I figure if I live here, I should do it at least once a year…
Thought midweek, temperature about 90, off season…but there were plenty of tourists, especially in front of Jimmy Buffett’s hotel. I guess they don’t mind paying a lot of money for the chance to get sunstroke.
There were plenty of small kids playing around at the edge of the surf. Building sand castles and such…and the part they most seemed to enjoy was watching the waves destroy their work. Reminded me of how politics works these days.
kishnevi (050eae) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:43 pmAnd of course they left plenty of holes for the water to fill in. Which meant plenty of places where walking along the surf line meant suddenly going from water barely covering my toes to ankle deep, sometimes calf deep water. Which the little kiddies would have enjoyed too, but they were long gone even as the damage lingered.
Happyfeet, you are an episode
you are
happyfeet (831175) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:43 pmWhoops… I meant an episiotomy. I always get those mixed up.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:47 pmI don’t know about that, Don Narciso, maybe 20 instead of 50 because of the compact, low caliber, and short magazines favored by the patrons and the gunman with non lethal but paralyzing wounds who could also sing like a canary about all his friends.
urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 6/14/2016 @ 6:53 pmWell, it’s clear from the ensuing comments that he realized the screwup and tried to correct it. So Trump gets points for that.
Andrew Hyman (b12b60) — 6/14/2016 @ 7:47 pm47. ropelight (596f46) — 6/14/2016 @ 1:05 pm
What I see in the New York Times of June 14, page B6 is that it is the Washington Post and not just one reporter.
That doesn’t stop it from covering the campaign and even his rallies because they can still obtain tickets to events that are available to the general public, although a Politico reporter was ejected from a Trump rally in California early this month. But it excludes them from the traveling press corps.
This isn’t the first news organization Trump has stopped accomodating. This has also happened to Buzzfeed, Politico and the Huffington Post.
Now Trump has given lots of interviews to the Washington Post, both to reporters and editors, and the New York Times wrote, it was not immediately clear if he is going to stop all communications with the Washington Post.
Sammy Finkelman (7ea384) — 6/15/2016 @ 10:12 amLarry Sabto: Polls asking voters who they believe will win can be a better predictor of the actual winner than asking who someone will vote for:
https://forecasters.org/wp-content/uploads/gravity_forms/7-2a51b93047891f1ec3608bdbd77ca58d/2013/07/Graefe_vote_expectations_ISF.pdf
Sammy Finkelman (643dcd) — 6/15/2016 @ 2:36 pm31. I wonder if that Dem opposition research will make its way to the Trump campaign.
It did. Russia released it. * It was published on the Internet yesterday.
http://thesmokinggun.com/sites/default/files/assets/djtdncgucc.pdf
* Well, technically, somebody who called himself Guccifer 2.0 did, but we know the whole thing is a FSB operation. For that mattter, Guccifer I probably also was.
The “opposition research” doesn’t seem to amount to much. It’s just a political docuement relating to what might be campaign theemses against Trump. It’s also old, dated December 19, 2015. Beldar probably has more. If we see these things mentioned, and nothing else, we’ll know maybe where it comes from.
Sammy Finkelman (7ea384) — 6/16/2016 @ 11:47 amhttp://gawker.com/this-looks-like-the-dncs-hacked-trump-oppo-file-1782040426
First head of the Cheka-GB. Died (or murdered) 1926, but a big hero among Chekists.
Which surely were not at DNC headquarters. Probably things sent TO: hdr22@clintonemail.com by Sidney Blumenthal, bit not stolen from her computer.
That looks like proof the DNC was siding with Hillary.
An argument that it is genuine.
Julian Assauge (sp?) of Wikileaks also claims to have Clinton e-mails.
Link at #79.
Sammy Finkelman (7ea384) — 6/16/2016 @ 12:23 pm