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9/25/2015

Boehner to Resign

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:58 am



Donald Trump takes credit in 3…2…1…

Speaker John A. Boehner, under intense pressure from conservatives in his party, will resign one of the most powerful positions in government and give up his House seat at the end of October, throwing Congress into chaos as it tries to avert a government shutdown.

Mr. Boehner made the announcement in an emotional meeting with his fellow Republicans on Friday morning.

Sounds like he cried.

The Ohio representative had struggled from almost the moment he took the speaker’s gavel in 2011 to manage the challenges of divided government and to hold together his fractious and increasingly conservative Republican members.

Most recently, Mr. Boehner was trying to craft a solution to keep the government open through the rest of the year, but was under pressure from a growing base of conservatives who told him that they would not vote for a bill that did not defund Planned Parenthood. Several of those members were on a path to remove Mr. Boehner as speaker, though their ability to do so was far from certain.

Allahpundit says Kevin McCarthy is the likely replacement.

85 Responses to “Boehner to Resign”

  1. Ding.

    Patterico (fecd9b)

  2. Dong, the witch is dead!

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  3. Far from certain? I’d say Boehner would disagree.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  4. Well let’s hope the replacement is better.

    Dejectedhead (152876)

  5. As a Buckeye, I suspect I won’t be hearing much about Boehner returning to the Cincinnati-Dayton corridor in Ohio to settle down in retirement. K Street, here he comes, right back where he partied from.

    John Hitchcock (26066a)

  6. Obama has been horrible, I will be great.

    AZ Bob (34bb80)

  7. why wait until then?

    go now, and do us all a favor, you useless DIABLO pos.

    redc1c4 (75622b)

  8. Boehner is probably a nice man but it’s time for a change. This job was too much for him.

    DRJ (521990)

  9. Trump can take some credit but this has Ted Cruz’s fingerprints On it, plus House Republicans probably had the most yo do with it.

    DRJ (521990)

  10. Like McConnell, Boehner was a power broker with little use for conservative ideas. Harry Reed had a similar ability to know what someone wants. But for some reason (unlike Reed), McConnell and Boehner had little use for the party base. This of course has led to the Trump phenomenon. Boehner sees the handwriting on the wall.

    AZ Bob (34bb80)

  11. Yes, Boehner was taken out by the old “Pincer” strategy; pressure to oust him on one side and pressure to defund PP on the other.

    Meadows=rock
    Cruz=hard place

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  12. To me Boehner represents two things:
    * Peter Principle
    * How being in power can corrupt your politics. Boehner was one of the people participating and responsible for the great GOP upheaval of 1994. I know , hard to reconcile with the past 10 years or so. Maybe his limit of leadership competence was actually reached when he rose in the ranks when Gingrich stepped away.

    seeRpea (f74afc)

  13. …and America breaks out in tears of joy…

    windbag (3c9ea9)

  14. and now i’m seeing all these political pundits declaring how awful this is for the GOP, and how this opens up both Houses for the Dems in 2016. how this is a phyric win for conservatives.

    It’s like these people have not been paying attention to the resonance that non-establishment politicians are making (Trump, the former CEO, the Doctor, the Socialist, and all the tea-party and even uber-progressive types winning in low level elections)

    seeRpea (f74afc)

  15. The guy I would like to see as Speaker, but has no chance, is Tom McClintock from California. Conservative and Honest, a rarity in Congress.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  16. To what do we attribute the resignation, if not the ascendancy of the “outsider” faction and Mr. Trump, in particular? Let’s face it, here is yet another dividend of Trumpmania – these dividends seem to be showing up on an almost daily basis. How is it possible to argue that Trump will move the party and the nation in the wrong direction, when everything he has done to date has moved the party and the nation in the right direction? That’s the proof of the pudding.

    The real news here is that the party elite is panicking, sacrificing one of their own in the desperate hope of preserving the group. I just wonder which K-Street Don ordered the resignation. Regardless, I couldn’t be happier.

    ThOR (a52560)

  17. It ain’t Rump. It’s TEA Party, the base, Cruz. Rump is to the Left of Boehner. Single Payer. That’s Trump. To the Left of ObamaCare.

    John Hitchcock (26066a)

  18. actually it’s not, it’s a fleshwound, to accomodate moloch’s minions and RobertsCare,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  19. John,

    FYI, I’m a Cruz supporter who finds Trump repulsive in the same way I find all stereotypical New Yorkers repulsive – it’s not as if Trump invented this persona. (Bye the bye, how is Trump any worse than New Jersey’s blowhard governor?).

    But let’s give credit where credit’s due when it comes to Trump. If Senator Cruz can do it, so can we.

    ThOR (a52560)

  20. The Ohio representative had struggled from almost the moment he took the speaker’s gavel in 2011 to manage the challenges of divided government and to hold together his fractious and increasingly conservative Republican members.

    Since the speaker of the house doesn’t have to be a member of the house, I nominate myself. Please contact your congress critters to vote me in.

    Tanny O'Haley (c674c7)

  21. The impending secession battle has the potential to split the GOP into irreconcilable factions. And, so far the establishment has refused to yield an iota to conservative insurgents. John Boehner, acting in concert with Mitch McConnell, has been the GOPe’s primary obstructionist preventing an increasingly frustrated conservative base from achieving the legitimate political clout earned in recent elections.

    I suspect that Boehner has seen the writing on Congressional walls for some time now and wanted to accommodate the young Turks. However, the establishment is obstinately standing in the doorway of progress, holding onto power by controlling entrenched geriatrics running local party infrastructure. (Forgive the allusion to George Wallace, however it does strike me as somewhat apropos.)

    Catastrophic splits occur along major fault lines and right now the GOP’s San Andreas is running between the party establishment and the conservative base. Donald Trump’s candidacy is today’s symbol for an internecine dispute that has all the markings of breaking out into what amounts to a bloody civil war where the party itself crumbles and falls.

    ropelight (7cc275)

  22. Tanny, why not give the Trumpster a trial run? He’d learn something, and we might too. Sort of a test drive.

    And, if things don’t work out, as is likely, he could be replaced without all the bother of an impeachment.

    BobStewartathome (97a232)

  23. Donald Trump loves Big Government. He would increase the size of government and consolidate power into the hands of one person: him. And his positions on taxes, health care, gun control, Planned Parenthood are well outside the mainstream of the Republican party, let alone the Conservative base. He is a Democrat in the Republican primary.

    John Hitchcock (26066a)

  24. And John Boehner would have quickly acquiesced to the Trump reign. Trump likes Boehner’s kind in leadership positions below him. They’re yes men.

    John Hitchcock (26066a)

  25. like Bloomberg, and Romney, Maverick was a little more solid, but he threw the match,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  26. This obviously opens the leadership door to McCarthy, who seems more moderate than Boehner. I guess it’s Boehner’s not-so-friendly parting gift to the Tea Party. What do our California commenters think about McCarthy?

    DRJ (521990)

  27. Cantor crashed and burned for spurning the Conservatives.
    Boehner is crashing and burning for spurning the Conservatives. (And I find it particularly humorous that SpellCheck doesn’t like Boehner, either.)
    Up next, McCarthy will crash and burn for spurning the Conservatives.

    Instead of an ICBM, it would be a CBM: Congressional Ballot Missile from the Conservatives to the Big Government Statists (of which, Trump is a party).

    John Hitchcock (0098d2)

  28. Rumors are swirling around that McCarthy is a pro-abortion, pro-gay, RINO who is wide open to blackmail for playing pattycake with Rep. Renee Ellmers (R-NC).

    ropelight (7cc275)

  29. well if past is prologue, recall hastert, was measurably worse than newt,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  30. As long as the filibuster lives, this won’t make a dime’s worth of difference.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  31. Johnny Walking.

    Bill H (2a858c)

  32. This turd is just a piece of a ten coil dump that needs to be flushed.

    mg (31009b)

  33. The House passed a number of good bills, only to see them die in the Senate, where the Democrats retain a veto. At some point, Boehner stopped wanting to posture. Taking risks is great only if there is something to be gained.

    The problem wasn’t Boehner, or the House. It is the dysfunctional Senate, the aged GOP “leadership” that lost that fire in the belly 30 years ago, and the filibuster which should have been killed in 1981. As it stands, the Senate is still controlled by Reid.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  34. The problem was Boehner and his two-faced approach to representative government. He talked the talk but when it came time to stand up he was always AWOL. Time after time. He’s a self-indulgent, chain smoking, drunken, emotional crybaby who’s finally the hell out of the way.

    ropelight (7cc275)

  35. I promise to usher in bills that reduce the budget, gets rid of the EPA, the department of education, overturns Obamacare, and if the attorney general won’t jail Lois Lerner, the head of the IRS, and the head of the VA, put them in jail as congress has the right. Even if none of the bills will pass I understand that perception is more important and will take every opportunity to blame the democrats for getting in the way of progress and being on the wrong side of history.

    I will also start impeachment hearings for the 5 Supreme Court justices who refuse to honor their oath to the constitution.

    Tanny O’Haley for Speaker of the House

    Tanny O'Haley (21dac1)

  36. #30: Kevin, do you know why Republicans, like Cruz, are forced to actually filibuster, while the Democrats avoid all that nonsense simply by threatening to filibuster? Is it just McConnell’s sense of weakness and compromise, or something more substantial?

    BobStewartathome (97a232)

  37. BobStewartathome (97a232) — 9/25/2015 @ 11:53

    That is a very good question.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  38. 36.
    Has McConnell supported any filibusters? I have the impresdion Cruz was on his own there.

    I do think Reid makes sure he has the necessary votes befire announcing a filibuster. Something McConnell apparently feels unable/has no intention to do.

    kishnevi (4b51e3)

  39. If Obama does veto the budget because it cuts or eliminates Planned Parenthood funding, I would hope Boehner’s successor would be better at messaging than him. Specifically getting across that it will be Obama shutting the government down, not the Republicans. It would be hard not to be better than Boehner.

    Speaking of Planned Parenthood, how many Trump supporters will be angry at the Republicans if they back down from defunding PP? Logically it should be zero, but some people’s brains don’t appear to function in a totally logical fashion.

    Gerald A (e1ec12)

  40. Slap Eric Holder and Hillary Clinton in jail along with Huma Abedin and Cheryl Mills, flog Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dickhead Durbin, and Elijah Cummings. Shut down the NY Times and NBC, beat the living daylignts out of all those asshole commie bastards in San Francisco and every other sanctuary city, tell illegal aliens they’ve got 6 months to get the hell out while the gettin’ is good, repudiate the Iran deal, kill ObamaCare, reduce federal taxes by 35% across the board, rescind all regulations issued during the Obama Administration, rescind all Obama’s Executive Orders, shoot every single terrorist at GITMO, hang Bowe Bergdshl, kick the UN out, sic US armed forces on terrorists worldwide with orders to exterminate the filthy vermin, abolish all government worker unions (federal, state, and local), run every single dirty rotten unpatriotic commie rat out of academia, empower cops to stop, frisk, and detain without a warrant all racist provocateurs from Black Lives Matter, Occupy, and other similar violent socially destructive organizations, put Obama’s so-called birth certificate under a magnifying glass, appoint Sheriff Joe Arpaio special investigator to examine Barack Obama’s criminal activities both before and after his presidential election. Bill Michelle Obama for all expenses paid by the taxpayers for her vacations and other extravagances, and lock up Valerie Jarrett and throw the key away.

    Do those things, Tanny, and you’ll have earned both of my votes.

    ropelight (7cc275)

  41. McConnell needs to announce he’s changing the filibuster rules like Reid did.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  42. Senate Rules wiki:

    A filibuster can be defeated by the majority party if they leave the debated issue on the agenda indefinitely, without adding anything else. Indeed, Thurmond’s attempt to filibuster the Civil Rights Act of 1957 was defeated when Senate Majority Leader Lyndon B. Johnson refused to refer any further business to the Senate, which required the filibuster to be kept up indefinitely. Instead, the opponents were all given a chance to speak, and the matter eventually was forced to a vote. Thurmond’s aforementioned stall holds the record for the longest filibuster in U.S. Senate history at 24 hours, 18 minutes.[11]

    If the filibuster were to continue for several months would it be any worse than what’s going on now?

    BobStewartathome (97a232)

  43. Rev. H @_41

    There are times when a leader needs to take a stand and find a hill to die on, if necessary.

    McConnell seems to operate on the principle that he must at all costs avoid that possibility.

    kishnevi (28fa9f)

  44. Ah, you missed my point BobStewartathome. The idea is not to go to war to change any rules, although that would be nice. The idea is to flex Republican muscle and finally take control. Even if he does not always win he will give the appearance of trying. Right now they sit with their thumbs up their butts and seemingly do nothing. Make noise. Call the leftists socialists, baby killers, women users, energy deniers, plantation masters and anything else to them on the defense for a change. We keep letting them dictate the narrative, screw that it’s way past time to attack. That’s why people like Trump. So throw out Trump but keep his tactics cause basically his tactics have put the entire left be they dems or Republicans off balance and they are panicking. Turn that moslem stuff on them. Same with immigration.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  45. Elect Col. West.

    mg (31009b)

  46. I personally think the country is in a pre-revolutionary phase but am certainly happy to see someone try to solve problems without a revolution. I usually agree with Richard Fernandez and especially lately.

    One of his best is “You are the Someone.

    The West is filled with millions of people like Alex, all of them waiting for Someone. They are the product of a multi-decade campaign to deliberately empty people of their culture; to actually make them ashamed of it. They were purposely drained of God, country, family like chickens so they could be stuffed with the latest narrative of the progressive meme machine. The Gramscian idea was to produce a blank slate upon which the Marxist narrative could be written.

    Too bad for the Gramscians that the Islamists are beating them to the empty sheets of paper. And they are better at it too. Maybe the old Bolsheviks could have given ISIS a run for its money, but today’s liberals have declined from their sires.

    This is coming and we have little ability to stand it off.

    Barak Barfi wrote in Foreign Policy about How the White House Abandoned American Hostages. “I was an advisor to the families of U.S. hostages held by the Islamic State. And the Obama administration failed them, repeatedly.” The reason for the administration’s inaction was simple. It did not compute. The problem would not lend itself to their bag of approved solutions.

    It was left to civilians like me to gather information and debrief the released European hostages. Because of my experience in the Middle East, I became the principal advisor to Steve’s family, directly handling their communication with the Islamic State. …

    The ruling class is beyond despicable. Boehner is not the worst of them and, with any luck, he will not be the last to go.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  47. From Free Republic:

    Boehner’s Confusion
    The American Spectator ^ | Sept. 25, 2015 | Larry Thornberry
    Posted on 9/25/2015, 2:54:10 PM by TangibleDisgust

    John Boehner announced earlier today that he’s leaving the post of Speaker of the House. During his remarks he made this stunner of a statement that shows, for those who didn’t believe it already, that it’s way past time for him to turn the gavel over. Be seated for this:

    “The first job of any Speaker,” John said, “is to protect this institution that we all love.”

    No, John, it is not! It. Is. Not. The first obligation of the Speaker of the House of Representatives is to the country, it’s security, it’s prosperity, and its cultural and spiritual health. The U.S. House of Representatives exists to ensure these things for the country. The country doesn’t exist for the care and convenience of the House and those who wish to carve out a comfortable career in it.

    And while we’re at it, who is the “we all” that is so in love with the House of Representatives? If you’ve looked at a poll over the last decade or so, John, you would know that the House of Representatives is only slightly less popular than tooth decay. Perhaps this is because you’re not the only member of the House who doesn’t understand what it’s there for. And not the only member who should be headed back to River City, there to seek legitimate work (if, thanks to our inept and elephantine government, there is any to be found).

    Best wishes in your retirement…

    ropelight (7cc275)

  48. ropelight,

    I couldn’t believe Boehner would say something so stupidly honest, but I found your American Spectator link and Boehner’s quote appears repeatedly in Google, so apparently he said it. Interestingly, it isn’t at the AP’s current version of its story on Boehner’s resignation, even though Google shows it was in an earlier version of the AP story.

    Is this another example of the media doing what it does best — covering for its favored politicians?

    DRJ (521990)

  49. I sincerely hope Boehner will be as inept at passing legislation in October 2015 as he’s been in his tenure as Speaker of the House. If he tries to pass immigration reform or something else on the Democratic agenda, he will damage his beloved House — not to mention his Party and the country.

    DRJ (521990)

  50. #44: Rev. Hoagie, my #45 was an attempt to get someone more knowledgeable about Senate rules to reply to my #36. It was a coincidence that it ended up right after yours. But I appreciate your remarks. The Republican have been so passive for so long that the words we’d like to use have either been turned on their heads to mean the opposite (e.g., “liberal”) or they have been declared to be so offensive that they can’t be used any more (e.g., “muslim terrorist”.) Even the color that is used to represent Republican controlled political entities, red, was designed to let the Democrats hide from their support or real “Reds” historically. Seattle, for example, should be a flaming red just to remind visitors that they are entering a very different world. We have been so feckless and irresponsible that even the most important things are intentionally overlooked, witness Boehner’s remarks quoted in #47 (above) that his “job was to protect the institution we all love”, no mention of the Constitution, the sacrifice of millions of veterans, or the trust his supporters gave him with their votes. Yes, it is time to clear the air.

    BobStewartathome (97a232)

  51. the filibuster were to continue for several months would it be any worse than what’s going on now?

    BobStewartathome (97a232) — 9/25/2015 @ 12:54 pm

    Anything that actually prevents congress from working is a good thing in my book.

    Tanny O'Haley (c674c7)


  52. Do those things, Tanny, and you’ll have earned both of my votes.

    ropelight (7cc275) — 9/25/2015 @ 12:35 pm

    Being a strict constitutionalist prevents me from doing many of the things you ask and I do feel your pain. Rest assured that I will work diligently to get any unconstitutional law, department, or entity repealed. I will do everything that the constitution allows including impeaching those that the DOJ refuse to prosecute. As speaker of the house I will be the man of the people.

    I approve of this message.

    Tanny O'Haley (c674c7)

  53. I wonder what they are telling the Senate leadership today. It may be that there are 30 GOP senators who think just like McConnell, in which case we need a LOT more primaries.

    Cruz should hake a point of order about the filibuster not pertaining to amendments or something. The Chair rules against him and he appeals. Hopefully he can get a second. Then record the vote. Let them pick sides.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  54. *make.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  55. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/424646/john-boehner-resignation-mitch-mcconnell-next

    Representative Trent Franks holds the same view, but believes that it can be relieved by the elimination of the filibuster rather than a change in leadership. “Unfortunately, the Republican base and even many esoteric Republican observers are not truly cognizant of how the Democrats’ insidious use of the filibuster is beginning to tear the House conference apart,” Franks said.

    Frustration with the Democratic filibusters has sparked a new debate among GOP lawmakers over whether to use the nuclear option to eliminate the legislative stalling tactic. That’s unlikely to happen, given that McConnell and even conservative firebrands such as Senator Ted Cruz (R., Texas) believe it is an important safeguard of minority rights.

    But it’s also unlikely that McConnell will face a serious leadership challenge — if he faces any challenge at all. Cruz offered a sustained denunciation of McConnell’s job performance on Thursday afternoon, but demurred three times when asked if he thought Senate Republicans need a new leader. “That is a question, at the end of the day, for the Republican conference. At least to date, the Republican conference has been willing to accept leadership’s handing control of the agenda over to Democrats,” Cruz told reporters. “I hope that changes. . . . I would be thrilled if Mitch McConnell would actually lead.”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  56. So, change the filibuster number to 55 from 60.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  57. Well, it was changed from 66 to 60 when Byrd was around…

    John Hitchcock (9708e8)

  58. “is to protect this institution that we all love.”

    That one statement all by itself illustrates why Boehner is such a twit.

    His notorious habit of shedding tears at the drop of the hat always made me suspicious of what exactly made him tick, so squish-squish, in effect and as things turn out, is imprinted in his eye ducts.

    Mark (f713e4)

  59. obama could never have accomplished his agenda without traitor boehner.

    mg (31009b)

  60. Three reasons golf is in danger of having referees. obama, boehner, clinton.
    Who is your fourth?

    mg (31009b)

  61. The house republicans have a chance to make America great again.
    I fear they won’t by electing another piece of trash. No Floridians for the post as they are all in love with amnesty.
    Louie Gomart, Col. West are the style the house needs to make America great again.
    No rino.

    mg (31009b)

  62. Well Daniel webster is offering himself for speaker.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  63. I wish GOP leaders and consultants were required to read and understand articles like this at the Free Beacon. It’s obvious they don’t. We know they don’t read bills. Sometimes I wonder if they read anything.

    DRJ (521990)

  64. Webster is impressive, narciso. Hensarling would also be good.

    DRJ (521990)

  65. Totally off-topic but the mass with the Pope in Philadelphia is lovely.

    DRJ (521990)

  66. Good to see your posts, DRJ. I truly learn a lot from your point of view.

    I mean, I know that my opinion is in the minority: the silly name calling and profanity debases the process. Fine. I do think it is wrong to complain about how Candidate “A” is name called if the complainer does it himself. Again, that’s me.

    But your Free Beacon article brings it all together. People are pretty jerky. And somehow, that has become seen as being “strong” or “honest.”

    What bugs me is how much of this nonsense only helps the DNC get their way. Again.

    Simon Jester (bd20c7)

  67. One more thing, DRJ. In Swift’s “Gulliver’s Travels,” there is something very relevant. In Laputa, the wise rulers are only allowed to speak, hear, or see when their assistants—“flappers”—allow them to do so.

    This shows that the idea of assistants actually running the show for figureheads is not new. I want legislators to actually read the bills.

    Simon Jester (bd20c7)

  68. That’s very interesting, Simon Jester. Here’s something that is interesting in a different way.

    DRJ (521990)

  69. One of the most awful things about politics is that there is lots and lots of video out there. Good and bad. And folks with a point of view can pick and choose what to show others. We see it every day. And if it confirms our personal feelings, we seldom complain about it. It’s only when it doesn’t that we are shocked, shocked to find gambling in the establishment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

    I fear I haven’t been clear enough. All the personal stuff—some of which I know you agree is counterproductive—simply distracts from the policy differences. It’s useful to the statists of both parties, since it keeps people from really seeing the power structure.

    Of course, if the media tends to play favorites, that only helps the statists. I’m a big believer in the Clerisy Problem in our culture.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/07/watch-what-you-say-the-new-liberal-power-elite-won-t-tolerate-dissent.html

    It’s a warning about any group, not just the ones with which a person agrees.

    I have never been a fan of Boehner, but the childish attacks on his person (as opposed to his actions or lack of actions) only empower the real issue, in my opinion.

    Simon Jester (bd20c7)

  70. I don’t think Boehner is a good leader but how do we find out who is the real person behind the politician? It may seem like a low blow to show politicians being stupid, emotional, or sloppy because we all do these things now and then. But I think it’s fair to say most people try not to do theselling things at work.

    When a politician doesn’t care about these things when he is at work, or when he does them over and over, then I think it tells us what kind of leader he is.

    DRJ (521990)

  71. Sidney Blumenthal is not my idea of a good judge of character but he also has no reason to sugarcoat his opinion of Boehner.

    DRJ (521990)

  72. The new speaker has to be against amnesty. And for exportation of illegal non citizens.
    asap.

    mg (31009b)

  73. yes yes Mr. Filthboehner is resigning in disgrace for he has dishonored himself his family his house

    he’ll be on the wait list for a new liver within 2 years

    but that still gives him plenty of time to try the tasty grits at Baker Miller omg who would’ve ever known

    it’s grits with cucumbers and onions and it’s the best thing ever

    i also had me a gorgeous lil watermelon caprese salad that would probably be really refreshing for Mr. Sleazeboehner after one of his benders

    i’m a go back soon for the blt with “candied bacon”

    it truly is an age of wonders and it has one of those toast bars where you toast your own at the table then go to the bar for the toast fixin’s

    it would be a good way for a sleazy alcoholic politician to prepare his stomach for a jolly night of booze and prostitutes, but me I think it’s just a sometimes treat

    happyfeet (831175)

  74. Sidney Blumenthal is not my idea of a good judge of character but he also has no reason to sugarcoat his opinion of Boehner.

    Yowsa. I knew Boehner was bad, but I didn’t realize just how bad he truly is.

    Moreover, whenever a person is emotionally and ideologically about as firm as jello, why is it in a manner that often favors the liberal side of the spectrum? IOW, why aren’t there more examples of Democrats being squishy in way that truly tilts to the right?

    Mark (f713e4)

  75. he did a lot to help make failmerica suck, and got sloshed every night doing it

    he’s a symbol of failmerican deviance sloth and cowardice

    but probably not an enduring symbol, not the way he drinks

    happyfeet (831175)

  76. IOW, why aren’t there more examples of Democrats being squishy in way that truly tilts to the right?

    We draw our lines in the sand at different places and different times, but I think there are examples from both sides in everyday life. We may not see many of the conservative stories in the media, but one exception is the Kentucky county clerk, Kim Davis, who recently changed from a Democrat to a Republican because she did not get support from Democrats for her requested religious accommodation. I’m sure there are people like Kim Davis who feel the Democratic Party left them, just as there are people who feel the Republican Party left them.

    DRJ (521990)

  77. #60, mg asked: Three reasons golf is in danger of having referees. obama, boehner, clinton.
    Who is your fourth?

    Bernie Madoff just might fit right in, or Leona Helmsley if it’s mixed doubles.

    ropelight (5acabe)

  78. BTW, LSU’s #7, Fourette, is running wild at Syracuse. 7 minutes left in the 4th and LSU is up 31 to 17.

    ropelight (5acabe)

  79. IOW, why aren’t there more examples of Democrats being squishy in way that truly tilts to the right?

    IMO first and foremost the reason is the media, for two reasons:

    (1) The Dems will caricature conservative positions to make them seem extreme, hateful etc. and the media partners with them in doing that. A conservative who wants to stick to their guns will find themselves being tag teamed in a way the libs won’t. Rather than make the effort to fight that double teaming, they’ll say the heck with it.

    (2) Most Republicans read the NY Times, WaPo etc. Some of them are eventually affected by the relentless one sided treatment of issues like climate change. The exceptions are those who look outside the major media sources, like Cruz. But the career politician types have no reason to do that.

    While I believe the media is the biggest reason the Dems don’t waver and Republicans do, there is one other big reason: money. Look at how the Democrats are standing strong on Planned Parenthood. Is it a coincidence that PP gives huge amounts of $ to Democrats? Or the Keystone Pipeline. Environmental groups give vast sums to the Democrats.

    Gerald A (949d7d)

  80. Most Republicans read the NY Times, WaPo etc.

    I mean of course Republican Congressmen.

    Gerald A (949d7d)

  81. 18. Rearranging the deck chairs.

    DNF (4c8b73)

  82. A rather pithy remark,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  83. 82. Steyn in the last paragraphs notes: The social contract between our republican governments and their peoples is now torn to itsy bitsies, burned and buried, without precisely painting it thus.

    I yesterday had a long discussion with a neighborhood minister in preparation for the coming tribulation and our eventual harvest.

    DNF (4c8b73)

  84. increasingly conservative Republican members.

    Remember the time when “moving towards the middle of the road” would have meant going the other way, for Republicans?

    How many of the libtards’ darling policies have continued development apace in the last two decades, despite substantial Republican control over Congress in that same time frame?

    Gay marriage, abortion, universal health care, support for islam, and racist, and sexist liberal PC policies?

    Yeah, the GOP has been majoritarian during about 2/3rds of that time frame.

    Hey, Boener, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. Useless asshole.

    As disgusted as I am at support for (FEH) Trump, it damned well shows that there is FAR more open and strong support for a move back towards CENTER than any of the establishment GOP types are allowing for.

    IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (dfad0f)

  85. so … i have not seen any remarks from D.Trump about the Boehner story.

    wow, Boehner really said that the House of Rep was the most important constituent for the Speaker.

    also, sounds like he stayed on for the totally personal reason of meeting the Pope.
    people should really look up the Boehner of the early ’90s. I am not a big believer in term limits but I do support the idea of limiting the terms of leadership positions. If Boehner’s voters want him , fine. But after 10 years of whip+leader+speaker , the Rep needs to step down.

    seeRpea (9cd63a)


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