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9/10/2015

Head Of Yale Law School’s Program for Study of Reproductive Justice: Yes, Dismemberment Abortion Is A Humane Way To Die

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:07 am



[guest post by Dana]

On the first day of Congressional hearings taking place as the investigation into the abortion business of Planned Parenthood begins – this as a result of the videos released by the Center for Medical Progress – Priscilla Smith, who heads Yale Law School’s Program for the Study of Reproductive Justice, testified before the committee:

During questions from members of the panel, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte read to Smith a portion of the Supreme Court decision describing a dismemberment abortion procedure during which the limbs of the unborn baby are torn off and the baby is dismembered and pulled apart.

After reading the description of the abortion procedure, Congressman Goodlatte asked Smith, “Do you believe this is a humane way to die?”

Smith attempted to deflect by focusing on the viability of the baby until Goodlatte interrupted her and related that in the Supreme Court proceedings, testimony revealed that a baby had indeed been born alive and missing one arm because of a failed abortion.

To which Smith responded:

“Yes, a D&E procedure is a very humane procedure.”

–Dana

80 Responses to “Head Of Yale Law School’s Program for Study of Reproductive Justice: Yes, Dismemberment Abortion Is A Humane Way To Die”

  1. Hello.

    Also testifying at the hearing were two women who had survived their own birth mothers’ attempts to abort them.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. Holy f***.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  3. Dana, I’m glad you post these things, but I do shake my head at some of the responses that no doubt will appear.

    The horror novelist Stephen King wrote a great book about writing supernatural fiction many years ago. At one point, he describes his role as taking the reader by the hand and showing them terrible things…and that seeing those terrible things could make good things seem better, and a dim light brighter. Or words to that effect.

    There are some truths that we need to look at, and deal with.

    This is one of those truths, I think.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  4. Is Priscilla Smith’s mother still alive? I’d like to try to persuade her to have a late term abortion. Humanely, of course.

    nk (dbc370)

  5. Hey, here’s a thought. Instead of trying to kill convicted murderers with a drug cocktail that will pass the ACLU smell test, which is a seeming impossibility, howzabout dismemberment?

    Bioethecists have pronounced it humane.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  6. Right out of “1984.”

    Dan S (94f399)

  7. Simon, were talking about me?

    Steve57 (a36142)

  8. I contacted my Congressman.

    If dismemberment is good enough for the unborn, it’s good enough for murderers.

    Please contact your Congressman. I want to put these @$$maggots away as humanely as possible.

    Seriously. Let’s start a movement.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  9. i just finished Stephen King’s Revival it was pretty much him just dialing in an homage to Lovecraft

    i think his best work is behind him really

    late term abortions are gross you should have a really good reason to get one of them ones

    i wonder if maybe Congress should fund an ad campaign to encourage women to have their abortions sooner like within the first 20 weeks

    it would be interesting to see how much could be accomplished just by using the power of suggestion

    that’s actually a really good idea brb I’m gonna write that one down

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  10. I also contacted Ted Cruz.

    Yes, dismemberment is a humane way to die.

    So let’s get the ball rolling, people.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  11. I just finished calling my entire Congressional contingent.

    It probably wasn’t effective, but I don’t think anybody should be able to get away with saying what she said.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  12. If a teenage girl becomes pregnant and finds out she will not fit into the dress that she wants to wear to the prom, what it she supposed to do?

    Michael Ejercito (d74b61)

  13. Priscilla Smith, who heads Yale Law School’s Program for the Study of Reproductive Justice,….

    First of all what the hell is “reproductive justice” and why are those two words even linked? Secondly, Drucilla Smith needs to be fired from Yale and have her diploma recalled since she obviously failed ethic, morality and humanity.

    BTW, when idiots like her testify their quotes should be emblazoned on a bad photo of them, enlarged and used at every Republican event to show who the opposition really is. We can no longer afford these pigs to say what they want with impunity.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  14. “reproductive justice” probably means how even if you ban abortion you can never actually ban it for rich white women

    it’s like a perk they have

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  15. Happyfeet, rich white women are not the main customers for abortions which is why Planned Unparenthood locates 5 to 1 in poor black neighborhoods. That’s a perk the democrats gave the blacks.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  16. 13. …BTW, when idiots like her testify their quotes should be emblazoned on a bad photo of them, enlarged and used at every Republican event to show who the opposition really is. We can no longer afford these pigs to say what they want with impunity.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 9/10/2015 @ 8:15 am

    Please call your Congressmen.

    If you don’t she might just get away with making that statement.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  17. No, “reproductive justice” is all about removing all moral, spiritual, and ethical obstacles from yet another facet of human existence, in order to wield power in the name of central planning. Central planners (I.E. totalitarians) must create the “experts” they will require to legitimize all their methods to acheive their goals.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  18. Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 9/10/2015 @ 8:28 am

    Well said, Hoagie.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  19. yes well said Mr. Hoagie

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  20. “I just finished calling my entire Congressional contingent.”

    You will certainly stand riteous before the Lord, Steve57, “whatsoever you do for the least of my brothers, that you do unto me.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  21. 15. …That’s a perk the democrats gave the blacks.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 9/10/2015 @ 8:28 am

    Rich white democrats don’t live the way they instruct poor blacks to
    live. If they did, they wouldn’t be rich. And their house negroes.

    But then, if they didn’t keep blacks poor they wouldn’t be rich.

    http://www.ijreview.com/2014/07/155553-cant-go-back-houston-black-woman-drops-epic-rant-obamas-failure-deal-border-crisis/

    I walked door to door in south Dallas practically begging them to wise up. Hardly anyone trusted me as I’m melatonin challenged. They would rather be ripped off by Eddie Bernice Johnson.

    You don’t get rich keeping poor people poor. You get rich shaking down GM in the name of poor people.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  22. What are your thoughts on dismemberment, feets?

    Steve57 (a36142)

  23. felipe @20, don’t forget you’re talking about a sailor.

    I have a lot to make up for.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  24. felipe @20, I hope you’re right. But everything I’ve ever done is just a filthy rag before the Lord.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  25. Just contacted Costello’s office Steve57. They saw the video already. Nice folks. Of course they’re R’s so they tend to be.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  26. dismemberment is yucky

    i prefer though to simply not think about things like the dismemberment

    i’m not a big consumer of this icky lifeydoodle porn

    out of site out of mind is how i like my dismemberment

    from the mountain tops down to the sunny street

    a different drum is playing a different kind of beat

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  27. 25. Just contacted Costello’s office Steve57. They saw the video already. Nice folks. Of course they’re R’s so they tend to be.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 9/10/2015 @ 8:44 am

    Maybe we can put some momentum behind this.

    Thanks, Hoagie.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  28. Happyfeet, you help prove the old adage is true: “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

    Dana (c2a627)

  29. i do lots of stuff but I’m spread thin and a.) I’m not certain we want congress futzing about with this stuff because of it’s not properly in their bailiwick (though they for sure have the green light for me if they want to cut Planned Parenthood funding)

    b.) I think it’s best not to second-guess these types of decisions which are surely not made lightly by the women who make them

    c.) i’m not really kidding about the pron thing – I think it’s distasteful how people thing they just need to wave icky and gross stuff in my face and I’m a have the reaction they want me to have

    it’s the same as how PETA does it – exact same tactics

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  30. i’m not a big consumer of this icky lifeydoodle porn

    Don’t diminish the atrocities by labeling it some kind of porn. It’s the hideous reality of unnamed and untold millions. Quit being such a self-centered baby and give those who die, or are born, as a result of this process the respect due them. If conservatives stand a chance fighting, well, anything, we better toughen up and quit being so weak-willed, lest we all lend up looking like McConnell.

    Dana (c2a627)

  31. the green light *from* me i mean

    and also…

    it’s distasteful how people *think* they just need to wave

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  32. Yale Law School’s Program for the Study of Reproductive Justice

    How administratively bland.

    They advocate for murder.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  33. If anyone cares, I have the exact same reaction to feets as General Vandergrift’s cook had to Bull Halsey.

    Halsey tried to heap elaborate praise on Vandergrift’s cook after dining on SPAM and beans.

    Horses***, the cook said.

    You can spew what you want.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  34. The cook, at least, had done the best that he could with what he had.

    And Halsey knew that.

    I am trying to come up with similar kind words for you, feets, and I just can’t.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  35. “i prefer though to simply not think about things like the dismemberment”

    Reality does have a tendency to trouble many people and/or distract them from important decisions such as “what shall I have for lunch?”

    Colonel Haiku (436b69)

  36. Tactics may be objectionable, but reducing the reality of what is taking place should not be ignored, denied or diminished. Two separate issues.

    Dana (c2a627)

  37. i don’t think they’re separate issues

    the tactics reduce the reality of what’s taking place

    it’s like how right now CNN is telling us we have to take all them nasty refugees and they’re running a bunch of dead refugee pron to manipulate me

    just like how they did with newtown

    well no thank you that’s not effective (with me)

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  38. Happy is pleading desensitization. I blame Sally Struthers.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  39. not desensitization but these are appeals based on emotion and I’m emotionally drained

    this whole thing with Jon Snow, it’s hit me really hard

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  40. There are things I don’t like to think about because they are so painful. Animal abuse cases really get me, even more than thinking about child abuse. (It makes no sense, I know.) But thins I find especially painful to think about are also the things I don’t want to talk about. You don’t seem to have any problem talking about abortion, happyfeet, so I am having a problem accepting what you say.

    DRJ (521990)

  41. I feel the same way about all those pictures of Auschwitz. Don’t bother me with that Holocaust pron you Jew lifey-doodles. No, I don’t care that there were Greeks and Poles there, too! Manipulators!

    nk (dbc370)

  42. Manipulators”

    Could you please use a gender-nuetral word, please? I’ve been triggerred!

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  43. Just look away, Renee
    You won’t see those babies torn apart
    The empty souls of the abortionists
    You’re not to blame

    nk (dbc370)

  44. it’s not about painfulness it’s more about anecdotal nature of the evidence

    for me to engage on stuff like this I want to know numbers and data not just a few icky stories

    and it sounds like the one-armed baby story’s been kicking around for a while

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  45. You have to look at the intent,” Carson told The Washington Post’s Dave Weigel before he began a campaign swing through New Hampshire. “To willfully ignore evidence that you have for some ideological reason is wrong. If you’re killing babies and taking the tissue, that’s a very different thing than taking a dead specimen and keeping a record of it.”

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  46. This so-called ethicist is right in line with Peter Singer.

    There is no sufficient word in English that properly characterizes the sheer, unadulterated, selfish evil of people like this, who will coldly insist that the ripping apart of the limbs of a human in the fetal stage of development is HUMANE.

    Gotterdammerung cannot come soon enough for a nation that not only considers such barbaric acts legal, but that insists on funding such heinous, bloodthirsty acts with tax dollars.

    Pete (ceb4bf)

  47. hi Dr. Pete how are you I am fine

    we had some t-storms here in the windy city what cleared up a lot of that oppressive humidity

    I’ll let you get back to the clinic cause of you probably have lots of neonatology stuff on your plate

    just wanted to say hi

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  48. Until the last decade Pete, I always thought when that last Great Battle came we would be on the side of good. Then came the democrat party going total commie on us and now almost post Obama I think all is lost.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  49. Steve #7: not at all, sir. Not at all.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  50. No, nk! Not teh beloved Left Banke!

    Colonel Haiku (436b69)

  51. Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 9/10/2015 @ 8:15 am
    and
    Patricia (5fc097) — 9/10/2015 @ 9:09 am

    I’ll bet if Elihu Yale could do so, he would want his name removed from a university that harbors (and celebrates) this barbarity.

    You have to hand it to a worldview that says a three-injection drug routine of sodium thiopental, pancuronium bromide, and potassium chloride constitutes “needless suffering” when administered to a convict on death row, but live dismemberment of a defenseless baby is a humane way of death.

    JVW (ba78f9)

  52. JVW, our civilized cousins in Europe have eliminated the death penalty.

    But they have also established physician assisted suicide.

    So it’s cruel and unusual punishment to inject poison into a murderer’s arm. But it’s a mercy killing to inject the same poison into a cancer patient’s arm.

    My head is going to explode now.

    P.S. Belgium approved of a convict’s request for assisted suicide.

    http://news.yahoo.com/belgium-grants-jailed-rapist-murderer-euthanasia-105157604.html

    Not available as punishment. Only available as therapy.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  53. I feel the same way about all those pictures of Auschwitz. Don’t bother me with that Holocaust pron you Jew lifey-doodles. No, I don’t care that there were Greeks and Poles there, too! Manipulators!
    nk (dbc370) — 9/10/2015 @ 10:07 am

    Not to mention gays. Don’t forget the gays or you’ll get in all kinds of trouble!

    Dan S (94f399)

  54. Liberalism has crossed into the realm of total and complete insanity.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  55. JVW, our civilized cousins in Europe have eliminated the death penalty.

    But they have also established physician assisted suicide.

    So it’s cruel and unusual punishment to inject poison into a murderer’s arm. But it’s a mercy killing to inject the same poison into a cancer patient’s arm.

    My head is going to explode now.

    P.S. Belgium approved of a convict’s request for assisted suicide.

    http://news.yahoo.com/belgium-grants-jailed-rapist-murderer-euthanasia-105157604.html

    Not available as punishment. Only available as therapy.
    Steve57 (a36142) — 9/10/2015 @ 12:14 pm

    This is what happens when decisions are based on emotion rather than reason (tempered with emotion.)

    Dan S (94f399)

  56. @Steve57:You don’t get rich keeping poor people poor.

    Volume, dear boy, volume. The poor you shall always have with you, said one moral philosopher; and they are a gold mine, said another.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  57. Of course it has, Hoagie. If you can support the killing of 55 million American children in 40 years, you are by definition insane. So, what’s a little grotesque dismemberment and experimentation when nothing’s going to stop them from being murdered anyway, happyfascist Dr Mengele?

    John Hitchcock (827df9)

  58. http://commonsensepoliticalthought.com/?p=13407

    “We didn’t know!”

    Practically an entire nation said that about what was going on within their own nation. Within miles of their own homes. Practically out in the open. Because they didn’t want to know. A whole nation of “plausible deniability.” How could this have happened? What turned so many people into such monsters? What turned millions more people into complicit enablers of the monsters? That couldn’t happen to us, could it?

    I cannot put Gosnell, Planned Parenthoood, NARAL, or even abortion on the same level as Nazi Germany.

    The Nazis murdered 6,000,000 Jews. The Nazis murdered countless other “undesirables.” The Nazis murdered those who tried to protect all the “undesirables.” To the tune of 10,000,000 souls. But if it weren’t for Hitler and the Nazis, there would be no VolksWagen, no autobahn, no US Interstates, no Israel.

    Roe v Wade and Doe v Bolton, Margaret Sanger, Planned Parenthood, Kermit Gosnell, the whole abortion industry have murdered, mutilated, maimed over 40,000,000 babies in the US alone and murdered, mutilated, maimed, infected and destroyed the lives of countless other women along the way, all to push an agenda of pure evil. Unlike the few good things to come as a result of Hitler and the Nazis, nothing good has come out of the pro-abortion industry. So the abortion industry is leaps and bounds more evil than Nazi Germany.

    Yes, we are leaps and bounds more evil than Nazi Germany with our wholesale butchery of babies and our experimentation with their dead bodies, and we as a nation will pay a hefty price for the evil we have allowed to happen. And “looking the other way” as the evil happyfascist wants to do will not get us off the hook for our guilt and the forthcoming punishment. It will be severe.

    John Hitchcock (827df9)

  59. and we as a nation will pay a hefty price for the evil we have allowed to happen.

    We already are paying that hefty price, Mr. Hitchcock. Look at the state of our law, of our politics, of our military and moral authority worldwide. All going down hill in a hand basket. Look at the psychotic in the White House and the psychotics running to replace him. All but a few are nuckin futs and zero democrats are sane. How about the condition of our economy? When was our last great achievement? Going to the moon? That’s so 60’s. Today the idiots that be think it’s an achievement to let queers marry, put Christians out of business, chop up babies in the womb and bring in enough foreigners to America to cause our collapse as long as nobody calls us racist or xenophobic because keeping America for Americans is racist you know.

    The hefty price is here Mr. Hitchcock and the left has made sure we can’t afford to pay it.

    Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27)

  60. So, what’s a little grotesque dismemberment and experimentation when nothing’s going to stop them from being murdered anyway, happyfascist Dr Mengele?

    ask Dr. Ben Carson he’s done the actual fetus experiments me I like to experiment with different ways to make fun festive sangrias

    happyfeet (a037ad)

  61. “Yes, a D&E procedure is a very humane procedure.”

    So can we apply this for capital punishment and move on?

    G (6a553a)

  62. I’m thinking so, G.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  63. We have met the savages and they are us.

    G:

    Exactly. Colocate Planned Punishment with Planned Parenthood, which has a proven record of humanely killing several hundred thousand [wholly innocent] human lives annually. There is a good opportunity to reduce capital expenses and comply with the religious/moral philosophy (i.e. pro-choice doctrine) of popular human and civil rights businesses.

    n.n (f39afe)

  64. This has probably been said a few times, but the law school professor probably also represents ISIS

    hf
    I saw an interview where Carson explained where that tissue comes from and that he didn’t kill the tissue, he examined it after events like spontaneous abortion or after failed surgical attempts.
    Its kinda like blaming ta person doing an autopsy for the death

    steveg (fed1c9)

  65. I have told you guys many times before, happyfascist is not an honest actor and has admitted such in response to a DRJ question 2 weeks ago.

    Gazzer (46b071)

  66. Gazzer, does it seem I need a lesson in honest brokers?

    I commented on another thread in this regard.

    http://20committee.com/2013/12/24/meet-the-anti-snowden-captain-john-philip-cromwell/

    …Some forty-one sailors from the Sculpin managed to escape the sinking vessel and were taken prisoner by the Japanese, but Captain Cromwell was not among them. When the word went out to abandon ship, John Cromwell stayed on the sinking submarine. The forty-two year-old husband and father knew he had no choice but to go down with the Sculpin. Not only had he been briefed on the impending invasion of Tarawa, but more importantly, he knew about the ULTRA secret, the U.S. Navy’s unmentionable ace in the hole against Japan.

    Steve57 (a36142)

  67. Dismemberment is a humane way to die! Well, when can ‘dismemberment’ start being used as capital punishment?

    Can some of the effort PP applies to this practice be applied to capital punishment? After all, they get govt dollars, so they can provide a valuable service because they also appear to be proficient.

    Rich (ddc02c)

  68. OT
    But am wondering why it is OK for Neil Young and Michael Stipe to refuse to sell their product due to political affiliation of a candidate.
    Why isn’t that like a cake?
    Serious question… don’t understand how the law on this works

    steveg (fed1c9)

  69. thanks Mr. g i haven’t gotten around to any real reading about the carson thing

    happyfeet (831175)

  70. Dana, I’m glad you post these things, but I do shake my head at some of the responses that no doubt will appear.

    Simon Jester,

    I don’t shake my head at some of the inevitable responses. It’s instructive to see how easily people can rationalize and justify that which cannot really be rationalized or justified in any ethical way. And unfortunately, we know too well that it is the unethical that currently prevail in our country with regard to matters of life and death.

    Think about it: in order for animal shelters to euthanize animals there are any number of protocols that must be followed in order to make sure the termination of life is done humanely. Great care is given to make sure of that. Same with a person being executed. (In many places, we no longer execute because of the practice being considered inhumane.) And yet, people who rationalize dismemberment deaths are the very ones who scream about Cecil being killed, or the death row inmate being executed, or recoil in horror at global warming.

    We are in the season of madness. Maybe we always have been, it’s just the madness has been successfully hidden from prying eyes. Now it’s in the open, it’s laid bare, and we can more capably assess the ethics of a situation. Unless, of course, we are too afraid or in denial and just want to keep on rationalizing the unspeakable.

    Dana (86e864)

  71. we are in the season of late summer

    it’s so hot in LA even on the west side (Excessive Heat Warning)

    i tried to send a friend of mine one of those California water fans but it’s gonna take a week to get there – they’re really hard to find and Amazon doesn’t fulfill them some stupid third party company does

    so by the time it gets there it won’t really be needed i guess

    in Chicago it’s cool for now, and the squirrels are starting to look anxious

    I try to reassure them but they’re just not having it

    I read, much of the night, and go south in the winter

    probably to South Carolina

    happyfeet (831175)

  72. “Yes, a D&E procedure is a very humane procedure.”

    Surveys of human nature and politics vis-a-vie the way stereotypes of a person’s ideology apparently run counter to conventional wisdom (or lack of such) — in which liberals are perceived as being so humane, generous and beautiful and conservatives are perceived as being so heartless, cheap and grim — are borne out by this newest revelation.

    Pathetic.

    Mark (dc566c)

  73. And yet, people who rationalize dismemberment deaths are the very ones who scream about Cecil being killed, or the death row inmate being executed, or recoil in horror at global warming.

    They’ll, in turn, snort that rightists who support capital punishment do not support abortion, revealing a shallowness of thought and awareness, meaning such liberals’ inability to understand the difference between innocent life — presumably that of a fetus — and the lack of such of a person sentenced to death, who presumably is guilty of a life-ending crime.

    Mark (dc566c)

  74. “Did he really pull men’s arms from their sockets?” asked Dr. Maxilla, a slight tremor in his voice.

    “Not at all,” replied Mandible. “He pulled anyone’s arms from their sockets. He was never gender-exclusive and always the most egalitarian of psychotics— anything with a pulse was fair game for slaughter. He once saved the life of someone simply so he could kill him in a more imaginative fashion.”

    “So the story about the guinea pigs and the kebab skewer is true?”

    “All the stories are true,” replied Mandible, gesturing for them to follow, “except the one where he showed mercy to a little old lady. It wasn’t mercy at all— he had a dentist’s appointment and was in a hurry.”

    Fforde, Jasper (2007-07-31). The Fourth Bear: A Nursery Crime (pp. 28-29). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

    “I’m glad to see you’re not mutilated in any way,” he said. “A missing arm might ruin your symmetry. Personal asymmetry where I come from is a big taboo and brings great shame on the family and sometimes even the whole village.”

    “Do you then have to kill yourself over it or something?”

    “Goodness me, no! The family and village just have to learn to be ashamed — and nuts to them for being so oversensitive.”

    Fforde, Jasper (2007-07-31). The Fourth Bear: A Nursery Crime (p. 133). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

    nk (dbc370)

  75. For purposes of clarity, the Yale program’s auto-description

    http://isp.yale.edu/node/4941

    kishnevi (28fa9f)

  76. Dana at comment #69: I know, and I have no idea how to rationalize things. Robert Heinlein, the SF writer, created a “Future History.” This period of time he called “The Crazy Years,” and they didn’t end well.

    I think that a lot of what we are observing is due to a lack of critical thinking (and that is not code for “agree with me”), as well as a strange form of narcissism. How one feels about oneself, on a particular topic, appears to be more important than the observable facts on the topic.

    Also, putting one “side” under a microscope, and the other viewed through Mr. Magoo glasses, appears to be the norm. Pick one standard and stick by it, I think.

    Furthermore, agreeing or disagreeing with the Crisis of the Day appears to be a litmus test for GoodThink. A lot of people are doing it these days.

    Bumper sticker thinking. Posturing for effect.

    The Right does it, too, I know…but look at the Left on this topic.

    They simply cannot look directly at this issue. It shouldn’t be difficult to say that late term abortions are evil (meaning that the infant could survive outside the womb). But even that isn’t acceptable to the DNC. And mental Twister is necessary to stand by that while—as you rightly point out—being concerned with global warming and animal rights and the proper gender pronoun use simply takes my breath away.

    Old news, I know. I just had stand with you, feeling sad.

    I don’t know if you ever read Allen Drury’s novels. This one used to be over the top and paranoid to me.

    http://www.amazon.com/Come-Nineveh-Tyre-Presidency-Consent/dp/1614752079

    Now, I am not so sure.

    But I continue to pray (and I do mean pray) that reality is less beautiful than my fondest daydreams, and better than my worst nightmares.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  77. “I think that a lot of what we are observing is due to a lack of critical thinking (and that is not code for “agree with me”)…”

    – Simon Jester

    Isn’t it always, though?

    Leviticus (2da0c5)

  78. Not to me, sir. Never has been. This is why I get called “squishy” and worse.

    I don’t care for sophistry. I spent many years in high school as a speech and debate type, and came to detest that aspect of “the game.” It’s why I became a scientist (though it, too, has politics of an unpleasant variety).

    Sophistry leads to dark places indeed, which is why I had written what I did to Dana, from whom I continue to learn a great deal about honesty, courtesy, consistency, and kindness.

    Simon Jester (c8876d)

  79. “I think that a lot of what we are observing is due to a lack of critical thinking (and that is not code for “agree with me”)…”

    – Simon Jester

    Isn’t it always, though?

    Leviticus (2da0c5) — 9/10/2015 @ 9:10 pm

    You’re young, Leviticus. And there’s nothing wrong with that. Everybody is young once.

    Some of my skippers were devout progressives. I got along with some of them, as long as they could maintain a conversation.

    One of them was not the best man at my wedding. But he was the featured speaker at my reception.

    It was funny. He was waxing eloguent about me. And my rugby team was rolling on the floor laughing.

    So he looks at my friend, Mike, who had stepped in for the Shikaisha, (the master of ceremonies) and asks why they’re laughing.

    “They know him, Sir.”

    Steve57 (a36142)

  80. * He was waxing eloquent…

    Steve57 (a36142)


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