Ted Cruz to Visit Kim Davis in Jail; UPDATE: Released
The 2016 presidential campaign is coming to the jailhouse steps in Kentucky Tuesday, as GOP contender Ted Cruz is travelling there to visit Kim Davis, the clerk who has been jailed for refusing to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
Also travelling to the scene Tuesday is former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, who is holding a rally to show solidarity for Ms. Davis, the Rowan County clerk who was jailed for contempt by a federal judge after she repeatedly defied his order to issue marriage licenses to gay and straight couples.
Both the Cruz and Huckabee campaigns have been courting religious conservatives, many of whom have been outraged by Ms. Davis’s case. They believe her treatment confirms fears that the Supreme Court’s recent decision upholding gay marriage threatens the religious liberty of people who oppose same-sex marriage because of their faith.
Explaining Mr. Cruz’s plan to visit Ms. Davis in jail Tuesday, his campaign spokeswoman Catherine Frazier said, “It is important to Sen. Cruz that Kim Davis and all Americans understand his commitment to defending their first amendment rights to religious liberty. The First Amendment is foundational to all other freedoms we enjoy and it is tragic that in America today, our own citizens would have to worry about being targeted or arrested for merely living out their religious convictions. Sen. Cruz will continue doing everything in his power to defend Kim Davis and ensure that no other Americans are further targeted for their religious beliefs.”
Meanwhile, Ms. Davis has filed an appeal from the court’s decision. Most of the fire appears to be directed at the Democratic governor.
UPDATE: Davis has been ordered released from jail. But her lawyer says she will continue to order that licenses not be issued to same-sex couples, so she’ll likely be back in custody in short order.
Ding.
Patterico (3cc0c1) — 9/8/2015 @ 7:44 amGood for her for standing her ground and good for Senator Cruz for going to see her and giving her concerns a larger voice. We need to decide as a society if the 1st Amendment has been declared unconstitutional by the 14th.
njrob (1a47f7) — 9/8/2015 @ 7:49 amNothing beats the bible.
–Donald Trump
carlitos (c24ed5) — 9/8/2015 @ 8:32 amnjrob, the 14th Amendment is not the actor in this case. There are five lawyers sitting in a building in the District of Columbia who have assumed control of our country. And we’re supposed to thank them for their visions.
bobathome (c93b3f) — 9/8/2015 @ 8:35 amI think few people are arguing she has the right to hold up SSM licenses in her jurisdiction. But the heavy way they’ve come down on her is amazing and attention should be directed to that. Give credit to Huckabee and Cruz for doing that.
“Jeffery Dahmer got bail, the Boston Stranger got bail, John Wayne Gacy got bail,” Huckabee said. “Kim Davis, because of her convictions, was not given bail.”
Where’s the Donald in this? I thought he fights!
Gerald A (e1ec12) — 9/8/2015 @ 8:56 amGerald A, Christians are not entitled to bail. Nor keeping their pizza shop, nor freedom of association, nor of speech or worship unless they are in church. They can be Christian as long as they don’t practice what they preach. The left has invested half a century in making discrimination illegal just so they can legally discriminate against Christians.
Rev. Barack Hussein Hoagie (f4eb27) — 9/8/2015 @ 9:08 amWe need more Kim Davis’ in this country to resist the government trying to cram sickness down everyone’s throat.
CrustyB (69f730) — 9/8/2015 @ 9:49 amAs Volokh points out, persuasively, her claim to a religious accommodation from the state is pretty good, and turning the tables against the governor is kind of interesting.
Perhaps it is the Governor who should be jailed for refusing to allow Davis the accommodation she needs to issue these licenses.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 10:08 amHey, is there a Kentucky Senator running for President? Where’s he?
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 10:12 amShe’s been released.
narciso (7c7aed) — 9/8/2015 @ 10:12 amTo recap:
Kim Davis refuses to sign a license that says, in essence: “I, Kim Davis have determined that ______ and _______ are eligible to marry in the state of Kentucky.”
She wants it to read “The Country Clerk’s Office has determined ….”
The governor refuses this accommodation. There is a strong RFRA in Kentucky. She’s claiming HE is the sticking point, not her.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 10:17 amMost of the fire appears to be directed at the Democratic governor.
And a lot of the shrapnel from that needs to hit David Bunning squarely in the face, who in light of the way he forced a form of politically-correct speech codes and reeducation training onto a group of high school students and their school a few years ago, deserves to receive plenty of ire and disgust.
Mark (dc566c) — 9/8/2015 @ 10:17 amDOG TRAINER ALERT: LAT Publisher fired.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-austin-beutner-tribune-publishing-20150908-story.html
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 10:21 am*county clerk’s office
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 10:24 amThe right Surgeon General with the right President can declare homosexuality a communicable disease and order all homosexuals “quarantined” in appropriate treatment facilities like, say, Point Barrow or the Mojave Desert, until they’re cured, under existing law. Just something to think about.
nk (dbc370) — 9/8/2015 @ 10:29 amAnd officials who refuse to comply with this lawful federal order can be jailed!
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:07 pmShe’s claiming HE is the sticking point, not her
I agree with her on that.
kishnevi (d764f4) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:19 pmUPDATE: Davis has been ordered released from jail. But her lawyer says she will continue to order that licenses not be issued to same-sex couples, so she’ll likely be back in custody in short order.
Patterico (31088f) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:23 pmWho knew? Judge Bunning reads PP and was convinced by nk there was no rationale to keep her in jail.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:34 pmBut if there is no remedy, like a standing order from the judge that gives deputies power to grant licenses without her signature,
then we’re back at square one,
except the judge can say, “I let her out, but she did it again”.
If #11 is true, then this seems like a very simple fix.
Why create martyrs?
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:37 pmMind you, I am not an attorney or legal expert. I think a lot about the kinds of things I need to approve of on campus, however.
Simon Jester (c8876d) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:38 pmbecause bunning, meant to make an example as with the 2003 case,
narciso (ee1f88) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:39 pmpeople seem really confuzzled on this point:
and again
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:42 pmhere’s exactly what one of the licenses the deputies are issuing looks like
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:45 pmas narciso said, it would appear the judge, and the governor, wanted to make an example, not a martyr.
ooops! they said when presidential candidates were coming to see her in jail.
Unclear to me if the picture is of the standard form or one modified for the deputy clerk to sign
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:57 pmInteresting that both persons on that form list their occupation as disabled.
But if that is the form which Davis wants changed….I don’t see the logic of her objection. There is no language there that suggests that she personally approves of such a marriage…and if it does, then none of the suggested changes in how the document is worded would make less of a suggestion.
kishnevi (d764f4) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:57 pmnot sure either, kishnevi
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 9/8/2015 @ 12:59 pmhf’s link contradicts the quote in #11. There is no mention of anyone determining anything. There is a statement that the information provided by the applicants is “true to the best of our knowledge” with signatures of the applicants and a deputy clerk. I don’t see how the clerk could determine the truthfulness of the information without examining a lot of public records in other states, so I suspect she is basically witnessing the signatures.
bobathome (c93b3f) — 9/8/2015 @ 1:02 pmHire an assistant who is not offended to issue licenses and move on.
mg (31009b) — 9/8/2015 @ 1:02 pmDoc,
“I let her out, but she didn’t do it again”.
FTFY
bobathome (c93b3f) — 9/8/2015 @ 1:04 pmbob- true,
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 9/8/2015 @ 1:08 pmyou owe me a fishin’ trip, btw
just sayin’.
I see now that hf had explained in a previous post that the form had been changed on Friday. So perhaps the previous form included some determination by Davis.
bobathome (c93b3f) — 9/8/2015 @ 1:12 pmhere’s exactly what one of the licenses the deputies are issuing looks like
Except that it’s a lie: it is not in accordance with “the laws of the state of Kentucky”, but rather in accordance with a order of a federal court.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 1:15 pmBobathome, that “quote” was a paraphrase as I understood it to be.
Instead, it says that these people are entitled to be married under the laws of Kentucky which, strictly speaking, is not true, and has her name and signature on it. She doesn’t want her name on any such certification.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 1:19 pmspent a few minutes trying to find a copy of the current official form, but did not find one. But I found one photo of the form (not filled out) which refers to it as the “new” form, so HF’s link may be of an ad hoc form, and not the one that should really be in use in Kentucky.
kishnevi (d764f4) — 9/8/2015 @ 1:20 pmThe “above” includes more than just the names, but that it is in accordance with the laws of the state.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 1:21 pmhappyfeet,
You took a victory lap on the other thread. Do you think there is no more problem now that the licenses have been issued and the clerk is out of jail?
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 2:09 pmHere is a link to the <a href="https://www.liberty.edu/media/9980/attachments/2015/080515_Complaint_-_Davis_Third_Party_Complaint_against_Gov_Beshear_FINAL.pdf"clerk’s Complaint that has a copy of the old form of marriage license and certificate attached as Exhibit “A” and the new form of marriage license and certificate attached as Exhibit “D.” Both have a space for the name of the county clerk under whose authority the license is issued and the certificate returned, as well as a space for the clerk or deputy clerk who issues the license. The clerk’s name is on the old and the new form.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 2:45 pmTry again: Here is a link to the clerk’s Complaint. Go to Exhibits “A” and “D” for the forms.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 2:46 pmSection 420.020 of the Kentucky marriage laws provide:
This provision has two interesting consequences. First, it specifically provides that the license must be issued by the clerk of the county, which I imagine is the reason the clerk’s attorneys claim any license that isn’t issued under her name is void.
Second, if we were in law school, I know the professor would give us a hypothetical about an 17-year-old female plaintiff residing in Rowan County who wants to get married, because under Kentucky law she can’t go to another county to get married. (It probably has something to do with parental notice/knowledge.) I wonder if that passage will survive SSM for minor men or women?
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 2:57 pmDo you think there is no more problem now that the licenses have been issued and the clerk is out of jail?
yes i think the new forms answer what she was asking for with respect to an accommodation
that’s why I was perplexed she was still in jail
the trick is that where they would put that lady’s name they just say office of “Rowan County” (like in the link at comment #24)
that guy what’s kind of her boss says he’s all good with this (the executive of Rowan County or somesuch)
and nobody’s said there’s a problem
the real key to the legality of it all is that the deputy clerk has all the marriage licensing powers that that lady has
it’s not really a question of this form or that form it’s that the Deputy Clerk is saying yup looks good you kids are all set to get married
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/8/2015 @ 2:59 pmyou have to back up DRJ and ask yourself what a “deputy clerk” is and why they were inventered
the keyword is deputy i think
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:12 pmNotice something about the form happyfeet linked in his comment 24? Here is what relevant section of the form said before it was filled out:
Now here’s how the form was filled out at happyfeet’s link:
Maybe it doesn’t matter. I’d hate to set aside a consensual marriage over something like this, but the statutory provision is clear and the law can be technical at times. This may be one of those times.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:13 pmhappyfeet:
But this is the judge’s and your idea of an accommodation, not the clerk’s. She still views this as being issued in her name, and the law says she’s right. That they changed a form to delete her name doesn’t change the fact that the law says her name must be on it.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:15 pmhappyfeet:
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:19 pmMy formatting skills are declining as I age.
happyfeet:
Attorney General Jack Conway didn’t say that. What he said is that he’s fine with a proposal to remove names of county clerks from marriage licenses. However, for the federal judge to order deputy clerks to remove her name, without authority and under penalty of going to jail if they don’t, is different than having her named removed according to state law.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:20 pmOf course, if you are talking about the Rowan County judge, he has no authority to change the form so what he thinks is irrelevant.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:21 pmbut the point is there aren’t going to be any same sex marriage certificates what have her name on them so she doesn’t have to worry about going to hell
which, that has to be a big relief
so we’re all good for now and if the state wants to tweak state law in January or whenever then it’s just even more awesome
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:23 pmBy the way, I completely agree that a deputy clerk may perform duties assigned to him/her by the clerk. But she has instructed them not to.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:23 pmnonono Walter Blevins has given the new forms the deputies are doing the Doc Blevins seal of approval
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:23 pmhappyfeet:
I guess we’ll see if “we’re all good for now” when she goes back to work. You have a feeling all is good. I don’t.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:24 pmhappyfeet:
Okay. Show me his authority to do that and I will concede, but I need a link to a Kentucky statute that gives him that authority.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:26 pmi can’t do that especially not right now
but who has any interest in declaring these licenses to be invalid?
is there any reason to think the couples in question somehow fail to meet the legal requirements for such a license?
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:31 pmHere’s the relevant statute, happyfeet. KRS Section 402.240:
That gives the county judge authority to issue the license in her absence, so he could do this while she was in jail — although arguably he should have put his name on the form where it says “Name.” But now that she’s no longer absent, his authority ends.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:36 pmThe ball is now is now in the Kentucky courts to squeeze out a religious accommodation for her from the whatsis of the state. And there’s a power state chancery judges have that federal judges might not. “The law deems done that which ought to be done.” A state judge does not need the governor or whomever to agree to a consent decree or to a different form. He can say, “This is the new form. State, pay the printer’s bill”. (Although I think they use Adobe now.)
nk (dbc370) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:38 pmI did it for you, and I addressed above whether someone might have an interest in invalidating these marriages. Is that your standard for government work — that we can do whatever we want, whether it’s legal or not, because “What difference does it make?”
I’ve heard that somewhere before.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:38 pmnk,
It’s been pending in state court since August 4. I know how state courts work and normally it would take awhile. Maybe they will try to speed this up but some officials seem almost unconcerned about this, except for Conway who you discovered is running for governor.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:40 pmhappyfeet,
I appreciate your civil discussion and that you avoided name-calling. I will be happy to talk to you about topics if we can do it this way, and I hope you feel the same way.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:42 pmThat they changed a form to delete her name doesn’t change the fact that the law says her name must be on it
The ad hoc nature of the form and the requirement that her name be on it lend substance to her contention that these licenses are null and void.
It did strike me earlier today that the licenses are required to be filled out and returned to the clerk by whoever presides over the wedding, and filed into the records by the clerk.
I think I see a new round in Bunning v. Davis that centers on filing these licenses.
kishnevi (480bf9) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:50 pmR.I.P. Judy Carne, star of Laugh-In
R.I.P. Martin Milner, star of Adam-12
Icy (941b63) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:52 pmVery interesting thought, kishnevi, and that hadn’t occurred to me. What if she won’t accept the and file the marriage certificates? She very well might not if she thinks they are void.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:53 pm57.
Well, it seems that Conway is more willing to help her than Beshear, although better than Beshear is a low bar to clear.
That rhyme was purely accidental.
kishnevi (480bf9) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:54 pmThe participants have 30 days to return the certificates for filing, but they may accelerate that process in order to see if she will record them. Well done, kishnevi.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:54 pm60.
kishnevi (480bf9) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:56 pmI need to have a cry-in.
cruz and davis dung attracts flies!
jojo (7b41f1) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:56 pmi feel 100% the same way with sprinkles
but right now I’m exhausted and i’m a drink a red bull and try and get out of here
we had a really cool storm today what turned day into night
the midwest is so cool like that
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:56 pmGood. Enjoy the caffeine and the weather.
DRJ (521990) — 9/8/2015 @ 4:01 pm60.
I need to have a cry-in.
kishnevi (480bf9) — 9/8/2015 @ 3:56 pm
— Agreed.
Icy (941b63) — 9/8/2015 @ 4:21 pmI see from Exhibit B, that KY country clerks can exempt themselves from issuing hunting licenses under current law. This is apparently to avoid forcing “people of conscience” to issue licenses to kill Bambi. Having done that, they seem a bit screwed trying to avoid religious accommodation.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 4:38 pm“I am” is the shortest sentence in the English language. What is the longest?
Give up?
“I do.”
nk (dbc370) — 9/8/2015 @ 4:47 pmA bit cryptic:
Dana (c2a627) — 9/8/2015 @ 4:54 pmShe appears to me to be more than willing to stand her ground and if need be, I think she will end up back in jail.
Dana (c2a627) — 9/8/2015 @ 4:56 pmMagic eightball would suggest she’s not going to afix her signature
narciso (7c7aed) — 9/8/2015 @ 4:57 pmyour magic, nk.
mg (31009b) — 9/8/2015 @ 5:17 pmit’s September it’s not unlikely there’s no more gay couples of aims to get married til next year
after the legislature changes forms even
baby cried the day the circus came to town
happyfeet (25a710) — 9/8/2015 @ 5:22 pmIf I were the County Sheriff, I wouldn’t jail the woman. I’d send all Federal officials packing out of my county and I would wait for the Supreme Court to come down and try and enforce their nonsense.
And if I were a Supreme Court Justice, I’d get myself down there and stand right next to the Sheriff and Mrs. Davis.
Enough is enough!
WarEagle82 (44dbd0) — 9/8/2015 @ 5:30 pmWell, something good can be said about the SEC…
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 9/8/2015 @ 5:44 pm😉
One Adam-12. One Adam-12. A two eleven in progress. One Adam-12. Handle code three.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 9/8/2015 @ 5:47 pmso she painted on a smile and took up with some clown
happyfeet (831175) — 9/8/2015 @ 6:08 pmVoters Show Little Sympathy for Jailed Clerk in Gay Marriage Spat
while she danced without a net upon the wire
happyfeet (831175) — 9/8/2015 @ 6:39 pmYeah, happy I saw that. The poll was clearly about a subject other than the real situation.
Like which laws? The federal RFRA? Probably not. The state RFRA? Probably not that one, either. The law that allows clerks to opt out of some duties (e.g. issuing hunting licenses) due to conscience, but apparently not this one because it hadn’t been an issue yet? But heck, let’s just give up on counts and even thinking and just go by what some poll says.
The thing that really pisses me off about all your arguments on this topic is that you really aren’t as stupid as they are.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 8:57 pmQuestion for happy: Should all judges who refuse to conduct weddings out of conscience be driven from the bench? After all, that is one of a judge’s duties.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/8/2015 @ 8:59 pm660 people we called on the phone said they liked federal judges better than the run of the mill public officials. That’s not surprising. Judges rank high in public esteem.
nk (dbc370) — 9/8/2015 @ 9:15 pmI’d like to know what specific law Mrs. Davis broke. Not contempt of court, but what actual law given that on the federal and state level only the legislature can legally make law. So what law did she break?
Tanny O'Haley (c674c7) — 9/9/2015 @ 12:07 amTanny,
I’ve always found “Don’t piss off a judge!” to be a law in every jurisdiction. I broke it once when I was very young, but never again.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 9/9/2015 @ 12:57 amI watched the Kelly File last night and I was disappointed by the relatively low level of understanding they exhibited of Davis’ imprisonment. Our discussions here have exposed a great deal more information, like the idea that Davis would have been required to attest that the “female” resides in the county if under 18. These are small details, but they should have been modified by the State and not dumped on the county clerks. Kelly also seemed unaware of the hunting license exemption that was provided by the State for clerks who had a religious objection to hunting. These make the Judge’s actions even more tyrannical and violent. And if Patterico says being put in jail is not an act of violence, then I must wonder why he was (rightly in my view) upset at being SWATTED. After all, if he just lies on the ground, face down with his arms handcuffed behind him, the worst that can happen to him after the police clear his house is a night in jail. This assumes, of course, that the police don’t toss a flash-bang grenade into his child’s crib while ensuring everyone is safe.
bobathome (c93b3f) — 9/9/2015 @ 1:58 amthis was in her brief to the failmerican supreme court where our chunky lil rosa parks asked for her commodations
this has been done
yes yes yes
to the everlasting glory of our lord and savior Jesus Christ the marriage license of Rowan County has been changed to removeth the multiple references to Davis’ name, and thus to remove the personal nature of the authorization that Davis must provide on the current form
PRAISE HIM
but now what does Kim Davis Huckabee Cruz do?
she moves the goalposts
integrity much?
not our Kim
happyfeet (831175) — 9/9/2015 @ 4:23 amYour form no isa change. Isa justa trick. Where it saysa NAME someona puta ROWAN COUNTY insteada county ckerk’s name. Isa no new form, just olda form notta filled outa right.
nk (dbc370) — 9/9/2015 @ 4:45 amyes yes it does the trick
and do we even hear a thank you from Kim for this Mr. nk?
hey guys thanks for the new forms that was very thoughtful
nope
happyfeet (831175) — 9/9/2015 @ 4:49 amAnyhow, this is getting boring. You know what’s interesting? J.B. Weld. I’m using it to repair the broken hinge on my laptop and it takes a minimum of fifteen hours to dry. Joy!
nk (dbc370) — 9/9/2015 @ 4:50 amthat was a Texas company but somehow now it’s based in Atlanta
happyfeet (831175) — 9/9/2015 @ 5:13 amMy package says Sulphur Springs, Texas. And it’s the good stuff. Maybe they kept the good stuff in Texas?
Another TIL. A soft tip stylus is better than fingers on a tablet.
nk (dbc370) — 9/9/2015 @ 5:30 amThere is a fast setting version of JB that sets in about 5 minutes, but it is not rated as strong as the original, but it is still strong.
They also make things especially for wood.
great stuff, (strong) duct tape in a tube.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 9/9/2015 @ 5:47 amYou know Who else doesn’t like it when people use His real name, right? People used to get stoned for it according to one movie I saw.
nk (dbc370) — 9/9/2015 @ 5:49 amSorry, MD. I accept full responsibility.
nk (dbc370) — 9/9/2015 @ 5:50 ambobathome (c93b3f) — 9/9/2015 @ 1:58 am
yes, it’s frustrating to see and hear conservatives make opinions without knowing much of the surrounding facts.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 9/9/2015 @ 5:50 amwhat movie?
happyfeet (831175) — 9/9/2015 @ 5:52 amNot your fault nk.
MD in Philly (f9371b) — 9/9/2015 @ 5:52 amJB Weld or Ms.Davis, same thing, lack of information.
Life of Brian.
nk (dbc370) — 9/9/2015 @ 5:54 amQuestion for happy: Should all judges who refuse to conduct weddings out of conscience be driven from the bench? After all, that is one of a judge’s duties.
if they’re breaking a court order then they should be accountable for that Mr. M
not sure if that needs to amount to them being “driven from the bench”
for dad it was always his choice whether and how often to do weddings but he was booked pretty far out cause of people liked how he did it and he liked surprising mom on the way home with stuff he got with the extra pocket monies
happyfeet (831175) — 9/10/2015 @ 6:00 amOWL AND PUSSYCAT TO WED
Following months of heated speculation, the Owl and the Pussycat have announced their plans to wed at the next full moon. The pairing promises to be the celebrity wedding of the year, and guest lists are for the moment being kept secret. Fans of the fearless duo, whose exploits during their record circumnavigation of the globe in the pea-green boat have entered into legend, were ecstatic at the news. “This is, like, so cool,” exclaimed one of the many fans who gathered outside the gates of the Owl’s mansion yesterday. The couple’s PR agent is giving little away, revealing only that the wedding feast will be mostly mince and slices of quince, served up with a runcible spoon. Although the location of the wedding has not been revealed, fans insist that it is most likely to be in the land where the Bong-tree grows, and the minister the Turkey who lives on the hill.
— Extract from The Gadfly, August 7, 1998
Fforde, Jasper (2006-07-25). The Big Over Easy: A Nursery Crime (Kindle Locations 4656-4663). Penguin Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
nk (dbc370) — 9/10/2015 @ 6:20 am“Runcible” is a nonsense word invented by Edward Lear.
that’s what wikipedia says
happyfeet (a037ad) — 9/10/2015 @ 7:53 amHe also published:
There was an Old Man on a hill,
nk (dbc370) — 9/10/2015 @ 10:17 amWho seldom, if ever, stood still;
He ran up and down,
In his Grandmother’s gown,
Which adorned that Old Man on a hill.
they were also part of Neal Asher’s interstellar spy series, the way one crossed huge distances,
narciso (ee1f88) — 9/10/2015 @ 10:21 am#96: Doc, I resemble that observation!
Salmon season is open thru December where I live, but pickings are slim. We’ll be giving it a try over the next few months anyway. Our big day was out of Anacortes and we caught the fish just south of San Juan Island in the lower reaches of Haro Straight. The fish were most likely headed for the Fraser River. Get in touch if you find yourself in the Seattle area!
bobathome (279337) — 9/10/2015 @ 10:35 am