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5/23/2015

Intolerant Lesbian Couple Demand Money Back From Tolerant Shop Owner

Filed under: General — Dana @ 10:18 am



[guest post by Dana]

A Lesbian couple in Canada who patronized a local jeweler for their engagement rings are now demanding their money back – in spite of having nothing but good things to say about the business:

“They were great to work with. They seemed to have no issues. They knew the two of us were a same-sex couple,” White said.

“I referred some of my friends to them, just because I did get some good customer service and they had good prices.”

However, when a friend went to visit the shop, he saw a sign that read: “The sanctity of marriage is under attack. Let’s keep marriage between a man and a woman.”

Upon hearing about this, Nicole White and Pam Renouf went to demand their money back:

A worker at Today’s Jewellers in Mount Pearl told the couple that the sign is part of their beliefs, and that they can post whatever they want in their store.

“It was really upsetting. Really sad, because we already had money down on [the rings], and they’re displaying how much they are against gays, and how they think marriage should be between a man and a woman.”

Further:

“They just said that that’s their beliefs, and they think they can put up whatever they want. I just said it was very disrespectful, it’s very unprofessional and I wanted a refund,” White said.

“I have no issues with them believing in what they believe in. I think everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. But I don’t think they should put their personal beliefs inside their business.”

White and Renouf hope to get a refund when the man who sold them the rings returns to town next month — but it’s not guaranteed.

White said the rings were meant to be a symbol of love, but now the bands seem tainted.

“I think every time I look at that ring, I’ll probably think of what we just went through,” White said.

Tainted bands!!!

Co-owner of the shop Esau Jardon claims he has been putting up signs representing his beliefs for 11 years without complaint. As an immigrant, one of the reasons the tolerant Jardon moved to the country was because of its “freedom of rights”, including freedom of religion and speech:

“I feel really bad that [White] feels that we would in any way try to hurt or discriminate against her, but we will not retract from what we believe. I cannot say, ‘Well because you feel bad, I will stop believing what I believe,'” he said.

“When I walk on Church Street in Toronto, where I am right now, and I see [LGBT rainbow flags], and I see a lot of signs and a lot of things on public property, I don’t have a problem with them. I accept it. I chose to come to Canada… and we accept the whole package… I don’t discriminate against that, nor do I come and tell them to take them down. For the same reason, I ask to have the same respect in return, especially when it’s in my own business.”

Jardon is refusing to apologize and refusing to bow to social pressure in spite of having to shut down his Facebook page:

When asked if he would offer a refund to the couple, Jardon said he won’t be bullied into apologizing for his beliefs or to work for free.

He said the finished rings are ready to be picked up; White and Renouf just have to pay the balance.

–Dana

UPDATE BY PATTERICO: I believe he ended up giving them a refund. You vill express der correct opinions.

131 Responses to “Intolerant Lesbian Couple Demand Money Back From Tolerant Shop Owner”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (86e864)

  2. reducing christians to this caricature where they come across as these hyper-victimized feckless socially awkward whiners wholly and utterly obsessed with gay marriage

    i do not see what purpose it serves

    they’re no different than mattress hoochies anymore

    happyfeet (831175)

  3. he had to shut down his facebook page!

    happyfeet (831175)

  4. The collectivization of the peasantry continues apace.

    happyfeets rejoices in the fascism.

    Because it’s gay.

    Gleichschaltung.

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  5. happyfeets,

    Your intolerant underpants are showing once again.

    Dana (86e864)

  6. I think my comment @4 may constitute haiku.

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  7. #LGBTIndustrialComplex

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  8. happyfeet, that is apparently not all that is getting “reduced” here.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  9. i’m 100% tolerant

    i think the stupid jeweler is perfectly free to hang his stupid and offensive signs

    i think the stupid lesbians are free to ask for a refund

    I think the stupid jeweler is free to say hahaha no refund for you

    i think people are free to say hidy ho friends and neighbors i am ever so eager to give this jeweler my monies for he walketh with the lord

    i think people are free to say this goodness gracious this immigrant jeweler is a freak I’m a go to Canada Zales or some other chain store and feel more better about where my canada dollars are being spent

    happyfeet (831175)

  10. heh trigger warning!
    break on thru to other side
    rug burns tongue blisters

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  11. this goodness gracious i mean

    happyfeet (831175)

  12. you crazy Canucks
    drink yer beer eat yer smoked meats
    just get along… eh?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  13. So, let me get this straight:

    Jeweler dares to put sign in window.

    Sign offends a customer

    Customer demands money back, apparently thinking this voids his contract.

    jeweler says “RtFC”

    Jeweler at fault? He even MADE the rings for the gay couple. Some would not have. Now they want him to say he’s happy about it? What next? He has to give them presents?

    There’s a lot of insecure gays in this world, I guess, that cannot take anything but unanimous support without wilting. Even Stuart Smalley was able to get by with self-affirmation.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  14. Mr. feets I think you need a safe place.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx4db_YOfuA

    Safe Space University: the most safest, bestest college in the U.S.

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  15. So, the jeweler didn’t refuse to serve the same-sex couple. He didn’t break any laws. All he did was post a sign in his place of business. But to a pair of lesbians (and happyfeet, apparently), that’s an unforgivable offense.

    This proves that the LGBT faction isn’t at all about tolerance, it’s about shouting down any voice that disagrees.

    Chuck Bartowski (3e0e89)

  16. Where does it say that being in business means that the customer is always right, by law?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  17. The gays are winning so far but trouble is coming and they have no idea what it is like.

    ISIS is sending the ‘prettiest virgins’ they capture to slave markets in the Syrian city of Raqqa, where they are sold as sexual objects to the highest bidder, the United Nation’s Special Representative on Sexual Violence in Conflict has said.
    After the depraved militants attack their villages, they strip the girls naked, conduct virginity tests, evaluate their bodies and send them to twisted auctions, Zainab Bangura claims.

    She discovered the gruesome extent of Islamic State’s sexual crimes against young women – particularly from Iraq’s Yazidi minority community – after collecting information from Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan.

    Destroy the culture and learn too late that it was what was protecting your right to be an ass.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  18. #HappyfeetGayFascistIndustrialComplex

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  19. hey… I thought these murderous clowns were supposed to be killed to meet their virgins!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  20. Happy, I agree with all that, right up to the point people start making threats, throwing rocks or trespassing. Which nearly always happens next.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  21. all the lesbians did is ask for a refund

    that’s their right

    but it’s their own stupid lesbian fault they didn’t do their due diligence Mr. Bartowski

    but the jeweler is making a big whiny 700 Club ass of himself by mewling like he’s some big victim

    (he had to take down his facebook page!)

    and people want to embrace him cause they get moist and aroused as they bask in his whiny victimyness

    all this whining

    it’s a pathetic and pitiful facet of western culture’s decline

    mattress babes and whiny fundies

    same same same anymore

    happyfeet (831175)

  22. Mike, why do you think ISIS attracts all those men? The Muslim custom of polygamy produces a shortage of women, so the normal booty-impaired losers find their only way to have intercourse is to force it. ISIS tells them it’s not only OK, but that they are especially deserving, and institutionalizes female slavery.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  23. So, happy, it’s not enough that the jeweler makes the rings? He has to say he’s happy for them? Is obsequiousness now mandatory?

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  24. whaaa?

    i never said he has to say anything

    i said he needs to sack up

    if he’s gonna hang offensive signs he needs to have the courage of his convictions and accept that some people are not going to be super-enthused to do business with him

    and i don’t care if the stupid lesbians get their monies back or not

    happyfeet (831175)

  25. but the jeweler is making a big whiny 700 Club ass of himself by mewling like he’s some big victim

    (he had to take down his facebook page!)

    happyfeet, the jeweler was content in making them rings. He did not advertise this, he did not start this, he did not do anything but fulfill the wishes of his customers. They made it into a big deal because he did not also support what they were doing – but he never even said that to them. Contrary, he did everything they asked! They’re feelings are hurt he doesn’t believe the way they do and they get the LGBT haters on board and they are the ones that essentially forced his FB page to close (which is an advertising method for his business).

    I don’t see him whiny or pathetic or anything. Rather, I see yet another business owner being attacked for not agreeing with a customer’s personal beliefs – not because of any wrongdoing with regard to the business – which is why they sought him out – to provide a service for them, to which he agreed to do, for which they paid him for and were pleased with.

    Stop making him out to be some mock-worthy caricature of Christianity when he’s not.

    You have two intolerant women who are mad and throwing a hissy fit because, wah, he doesn’t think like us and isn’t happy for us!

    Dana (86e864)

  26. i’m not taking sides Dana

    i think everyone involved in this pathetic non-story

    a.) canadian

    b.) very stupid

    c.) pathetic

    happyfeet (831175)

  27. is…

    happyfeet (831175)

  28. a.) canadian

    b.) very stupid

    c.) pathetic

    Mr. feets projects.

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  29. do not

    happyfeet (831175)

  30. @ happyfeet: reducing christians to this caricature where they come across as these hyper-victimized feckless socially awkward whiners wholly and utterly obsessed with gay marriage

    “Hyper-victimized feckless socially awkward whiners obsessed with gay marriage perfectly describes the women in this story.

    Dana (86e864)

  31. never said it didn’t

    happyfeet (831175)

  32. Dana, you get it. I’m sorry more people don’t. I could care less what people do with their genitals.

    But this case is a bad one. It’s right out of Orwell, with “badthink.”

    And if a person reading the account is interested in being all hip and cool and with it, why, it’s okay to insult and damage the businesses of those who are, um, not as wise and well informed as the reader.

    Except that is precisely the mindset of Klansmen, isn’t it?

    To me, the jeweler did everything right. And the jeweler should be supported.

    Simon Jester (a0c327)

  33. Kevin M at #23: why yes, of course. That is exactly the goal.

    Because shut up.

    Isn’t that the way things are now?

    Simon Jester (a0c327)

  34. this is why, Luna rebelled in 2076, but I don’t think we’re getting that far, in the crazy years,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  35. you don’t need diamond rings or 18 carat gold

    happyfeet (831175)

  36. And yet, you targeted the Christian in the story with your reducing christians to this caricature where they come across as these hyper-victimized feckless socially awkward whiners wholly and utterly obsessed with gay marriage.

    As the shop owner was minding his business, doing his job, earning a living and living his life the way we would like all people to, it was the intolerant women who chose to selfishly and with intent, see to it that his livelihood potentially be jeopardized. They didn’t have to bring this to the attention of the media, they didn’t have to make a public to-do about it. They chose to use this as a platform for their intolerance. How is the shop owner not the victim in this?

    Dana (86e864)

  37. 22. Mike, why do you think ISIS attracts all those men? The Muslim custom of polygamy produces a shortage of women, so the normal booty-impaired losers find their only way to have intercourse is to force it. ISIS tells them it’s not only OK, but that they are especially deserving, and institutionalizes female slavery.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/23/2015 @ 10:53 am

    If this were still the same country of my birth we would be fighting this.

    ISIS is sending the ‘prettiest virgins’ they capture to slave markets in the Syrian city of Raqqa, where they are sold as sexual objects to the highest bidder, the United Nation’s Special Representative on Sexual Violence in Conflict has said.

    After the depraved militants attack their villages, they strip the girls naked, conduct virginity tests, evaluate their bodies and send them to twisted auctions, Zainab Bangura claims.

    She discovered the gruesome extent of Islamic State’s sexual crimes against young women – particularly from Iraq’s Yazidi minority community – after collecting information from Syria, Iraq, Turkey, Lebanon and Jordan.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3089430/Stripped-naked-physically-evaluated-sold-highest-bidder-ISIS-sending-prettiest-Yazidi-virgins-abducts-slave-markets-Syria.html#ixzz3azEjiPUH
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    Let’s just cut one thought off at the pass. If I wanted to get laid, I’d get laid here.

    Especially with all the wonderful new apps for my android.

    I’d also be willing to go to war for the Yazidi men. But they’re mostly dead now. All we have are the women’s tales.

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  38. Hi, Simon Jester, good to see you.

    Except that is precisely the mindset of Klansmen, isn’t it?

    Intolerance wears many different colored sheets.

    Dana (86e864)

  39. How is the shop owner not the victim in this?

    he should be happy

    he got a lot of bang for the buck for his signs

    that’s why he’s not a victim

    now everyone knows what his believes are!

    but he’s whining like a pseudo-raped mattress whore cause not everyone is all like hey bucko you’re the cat’s meow

    to be sure, the lesbians are just a very special kind of pathetic all their own

    eye roll my eyes at these lesbians

    happyfeet (831175)

  40. Narciso, exactly so.

    Three things:

    1. If anyone needs to “sack up” (so to speak), I would argue that the women who are enjoying an awful lot of publicity and make up might consider it. After all, they are supposed to be engaged, not engaged in a political act. Speaking of tainting something that is supposed to be of love. The ring is the symbol, not the people who made it (and apparently custom made it).

    2. Many years ago, when I taught in LA, I was speaking to a Deanlet who had a huge poster of naked men holding condom packages on her office wall, with “SAFE SEX” emblazoned across it. I first said that I appreciated and embraced her right to post whatever she liked on her office wall where she saw a variety of students daily. But I also asked her how she would feel about the Swedish Bikini Team doing the same thing on a poster on her office wall (she was gay, by the way). She said that was different, since the bikini team was objectifying women. I asked gently if the naked men were also objectified? She insisted that it “totally different” because of a “higher cause.” Hm. It all comes back to Orwell, doesn’t it?

    3. Finally, this kind of comes to mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Gl8aMOpcg

    You must agree, apparently.

    Simon Jester (a0c327)

  41. oops

    *I* roll my eyes i mean

    happyfeet (831175)

  42. well more like commissars and apparatchiks,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  43. Another sad click bait story that hf will ruin with his oh so passe cutesy “I’m just sayin…” schtick. Sigh.

    Gazzer (d3f7b0)

  44. i’m sorry i ruined your sad click bait story

    happyfeet (831175)

  45. If this were still the same country of my birth we would be fighting this.

    Steve57, if this were the same country of both our births. I’m watching The Sons of Liberty now, part of the History Channel’s Memorial Day line up. They pledged everything for Liberty and now the local hero’s are gays and lesbians having hissy fits because…Christian!! Somehow the lie that gays and lesbians could not get married became fact. So now anybody can marry anybody. I assume we now call it un-holy matrimony. And we can all see how tolerant the homosexuals are. They’re just sweethearts. Disagree and they destroy your livelihood, keep disagreeing you’ll be charged with a hate crime. I assume sooner or later the great and tolerant gay leftists will demand incarceration, then reeducation then execution. Resistance is futile.

    Hoagie (f4eb27)

  46. No, you are not.

    Gazzer (d3f7b0)

  47. dearly beloved we are gathered here today to celebrate this thing called life

    an electric word, “life”

    it means forever and that’s a mighty long time

    happyfeet (831175)

  48. that was a great series, they did do some creative license with Samuel Adams, marton csonkas did a great general gage,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  49. I would guess the couple sought out this jeweler on purpose, to challenge his “offensive” existence. Like they say, they always tell vendors that they are a same sex couple. Why make that statement unless you are trying to set up that vendor?

    Patricia (5fc097)

  50. yes, that’s how it was in Indiana, no,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  51. ISIS is sending the ‘prettiest virgins’ they capture to slave markets in the Syrian city of Raqqa, where they are sold as sexual objects to the highest bidder, the United Nation’s Special Representative on Sexual Violence in Conflict has said.

    And what do feminists complain about? An implied rape in the fantasy series Game of Thrones.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  52. Is obsequiousness now mandatory?

    Yes, just ask happy feet. I’m sure those of you who read his comments can explain.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  53. Intolerance wears many different colored sheets.
    Dana (86e864) — 5/23/2015 @ 11:19 am

    Dana, just because their sheets are all the colors of the rainbow doesn’t mean that they’re not Klansmen. Or Klanswomen. Crap. Klanswomyn?

    Russ from Winterset (4335ca)

  54. Yeah, Gazzer at #44. It’s just more “clown nose on / clown nose off” nonsense. But I do take exception at the lazy and trivial description of the shop owner. In fact, I rather doubt that the article was read by certain people.

    Here is what the owner said, on the record:


    “Jardon said he won’t apologize for his beliefs.

    “I feel really bad that [White] feels that we would in any way try to hurt or discriminate against her, but we will not retract from what we believe. I cannot say, ‘Well because you feel bad, I will stop believing what I believe,'” he said.

    “When I walk on Church Street in Toronto, where I am right now, and I see [LGBT rainbow flags], and I see a lot of signs and a lot of things on public property, I don’t have a problem with them. I accept it. I chose to come to Canada… and we accept the whole package… I don’t discriminate against that, nor do I come and tell them to take them down. For the same reason, I ask to have the same respect in return, especially when it’s in my own business.”

    Jardon said he’s getting a big backlash from social media.

    “I had to shut down the Facebook page because of so many hate emails and phone calls and just, really nasty stuff,” he said.

    When asked if he would offer a refund to the couple, Jardon said he won’t be bullied into apologizing for his beliefs or to work for free.

    He said the finished rings are ready to be picked up; White and Renouf just have to pay the balance.”

    Yeah, I really hate these intolerant people pushing their beliefs on others.

    Seriously, the poor fellow has to keep in mind that not all animals are created equal.

    Simon Jester (a0c327)

  55. I read that Simon. seems like a decent man. As I have said many times, it is never about equality. It is always about revenge.

    Gazzer (d3f7b0)

  56. “This Diamond Ring” by Gary Lewis and the Gayboys

    Who wants to buy this diamond ring?
    My opinion’s on my wall now, it doesn’t mean a thing
    This diamond ring doesn’t shine for them anymore
    And this diamond ring won’t be priced like it was before
    So if you’ve got someone whose love is true, let it shine for you

    This stone is genuine, and not for free
    But if you’re fond of trigger warnings, this ain’t the place to be
    This diamond ring represents something beautiful
    And this diamond ring can mean dreams that are coming true
    But pay you must or my gig’s a bust, that’s no joke, I don’t wanna go broke

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  57. i don’t even have a clown nose they tried to give me one at walgreens

    they said hey would you like to buy a nose for $1 and I was like ok

    and then she tried to put a nose in my bag and I was like no it’s ok you can keep the nose

    and she was like are you sure?

    oh sweetheart you have no idea I was thinking but I just said yep we’re all good have a great day

    happyfeet (831175)

  58. eventually ISIS will come to Toronto, and then they will see what revenge really looks like,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  59. revenge fantasies: toronto

    srsly?

    happyfeet (831175)

  60. See, it can’t help itself.

    Gazzer (d3f7b0)

  61. Every time something like this happens Islam looks better and better.

    Hoagie (f4eb27)

  62. So a couple of gender-confused folk who’ve been oppressed, suppressed, repressed and depressed their whole lives by evil Christian fundies decide to get to do their Big Day…an evil Christian fundy.
    Like there aren’t any gay florists, bakers, caterers, and jewelers who need the business.

    Richard Aubrey (f6d8de)

  63. Comedian: How many Oppressive Fundie Xtian Jewelers does it take to design custom wedding rings?

    Lesbian in audience: THAT’S NOT FUNNY!

    Russ from Winterset (4335ca)

  64. I wonder if they will stop by for an appropriate item for their divorce ? Maybe they just plan to have an an open marriage.

    Love brought the middle-age couple together — they wed during California’s brief legal window for same-sex marriage. But they knew from the beginning that their bond would be forged on their own terms, including what they call “play” with other women.

    As the trial phase of the constitutional battle to overturn the Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage concludes in federal court, gay nuptials are portrayed by opponents as an effort to rewrite the traditional rules of matrimony. Quietly, outside of the news media and courtroom spotlight, many gay couples are doing just that, according to groundbreaking new research.

    Yup. Rewriting the rules.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  65. The jeweler has decided to refund their money.

    DRJ (e80d46)

  66. So the lesbians hurt his business, stomp his free speech and then get a refund? He deserves to be driven out of business. The coward.

    Hoagie (f4eb27)

  67. how did the stupid lesbians hurt his business or stomp his free speech Mr. Hoagie?

    they re-broadcasted his speech accurately and to a much wider audience than he could have ever hoped to reach with his little signs

    they did him a big favor and profited not even a single red canadian cent themselves

    happyfeet (831175)

  68. And he profited himself right off the Facebook from the resultant tolerant hatred. Lucky him.

    Gazzer (d3f7b0)

  69. You honestly don’t believe they deliberately harmed or attempted to harm his business? And challenging a persons freedom to post a sign in his own property is not an attempt to stomp his free speech? Then your inability to grasp the fascist itinerary is caused by your blind love of GLTSBSHTRD or whatever.

    Hoagie (f4eb27)

  70. According to this report:

    Jardon, who owns the store with his brother, said he has been bullied, intimidated and even threatened.

    “However, due to posting our religious beliefs, many people in Newfoundland want us to shut down business — that’s what they’ve been telling us.”

    He said some threats came with names and others were anonymous.

    “One of them states that ‘you better give them the money back or you will be very, very sorry,’” he said.

    Jardon said they don’t plan on pursuing legal action at this time, but if things continue, it’s something they may consider.

    “The threats that we have, yes, those are illegal, and I could pursue the police. But moreso, the people that are talking, they’ve hurt our business. And one of those things is called defamation of character in Canada, so by them hurting our business, we can, in turn, sue them because they can’t prove that what we did was illegal, because they’re claiming that it was a hateful crime.”

    Dana (86e864)

  71. Clown nose back on sumptin wif cupcakes…

    Gazzer (d3f7b0)

  72. If one says we will serve you, but not the event, you are taken to court and you lose.
    If you serve them, but say, Oh by the way, we disagree, then your business is attacked and you lose, unless there is a groundswell of support by like minded folk,
    but I’m not sure how many of those groundswells exist in us.
    If you are quiet and don’t say a word, no mater what you think, then you’re ok.

    Participatory democracy, one gets to participate to the degree that the more forceful mob allows you to.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  73. If you are quiet and don’t say a word, no mater what you think, then you’re ok.

    yup yup this is prudence

    i do this multiple times a day

    happyfeet (831175)

  74. Democracy blows, MD in Philly. Do you actually believe the majority of Americans have the intelligence and moral compass to make decisions which are legally binding on us all? Cause I sure as hell don’t.

    Hoagie (f4eb27)

  75. These people needed to grow up running in and out of fall-out shelters instead of getting a trophy for showing up to a everybody wins event.

    mg (31009b)

  76. You will be forced to care. And accept. It has always been that way.

    JD (3b5483)

  77. No I don’t believe the majority of Americans can make good decisions for us all.

    But “participatory democracy” as understood by Hillary and the Left means whoever can be loudest wins. So, if a dozen people can make the internet scuttlebutt tilt in a direction totally disconnected from reality, that’s great as long as it’s their side getting the win. The number of people at an event doesn’t make the difference, but the image projected is what matters.

    And I certainly don’t believe the “participatory democracy” crowd will make wise decisions, they are the community organizers, Code Pinks, pro-GBLTQ… crowds. All they will do is turn liberty into license until their various licenses conflict.
    Like what are the Title IX pro-women’s athletics going to do with the pro-transgender folk. Did people with ovaries come so far to be beaten by testosterone after all?

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  78. hf

    the refund should have been denied because the jeweler had already made the rings to order.
    maybe when another couple of fat fingered lesbian outrage mongers with no taste in settings or stones come in he can sell the rings at a discount, but other than that he’d have to hope Rob Ford would stumble in waving cash and needing two rings for his bloated pinkies.

    steveg (fed1c9)

  79. yes yes i agree

    he shouldn’t have refunded the monies

    caveat emptor

    the stupid lazy lesbians did not do the legwork and then they were all like hey no fairs

    happyfeet (831175)

  80. ” {…}
    it’s a pathetic and pitiful facet of western culture’s decline

    mattress babes and whiny fundies

    same same same anymore
    happyfeet (831175) — 5/23/2015 @ 10:49 am ”

    = = = = = = =

    Happyfeet-

    You’re not hearing the super-whiny whiny-ness of the delicate gay snowflakes who are scouting high, low, and everywhere in-between, in order to find something, ANYTHING, that they can claim offends their super-special preciousness?

    Same thing for delicate wymynz and the micro-aggressions they’re “forced to endure” in our heteronormative cis-gendered whatevertheheck patriarchy?

    And also the Black Grievance Industry and ALLLLLL their claims of “dog-whistles”, and “white privilege”, and of an “open season” on “unarmed” 6′-2″ “children” who were really-truly “just turning their lives around”, and other such anti-white blather. (Note that said B.G.I. steadfastly refuses to look at the numbers of black-on-black murders across the country, which are orders-of-magnitude more frequent than the “white man kills poor black honor student” high-drama headlines they tout.)

    Yes, it sure *IS* getting tiresome, ol’ buddy.

    I agree with you.

    A_Nonny_Mouse (8d79c9)

  81. i miss being free

    happyfeet (831175)

  82. happyfeet @83, you shouldn’t have celebrated the onrush of fascism then.

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  83. i don’t have a facebook page

    i don’t have a linkedin page

    i don’t pay a cable bill

    i am not the whore

    do you have a facebook page?

    do you have a linkedin page?

    do you pay a cable bill?

    well that’s between you and your god buddy

    i’m a make a sammich

    happyfeet (831175)

  84. This makes sense. Canada was the home of The Hudson Bay Company, who for decades ran the fur trade.

    Gordon Pasha (fea6ea)

  85. 85. …i’m a make a sammich

    happyfeet (831175) — 5/23/2015 @ 4:54 pm

    I’m a make some mills & barbarian squats.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwMDeCrSbsM

    Indian Gada strength training

    I don’t look near as good as this dude. And instead of spending crazy money on a mace I just use a 10 pound sledge hammer from Northern Tool & Equipment. But what I do is after doing a right and left mill, throw in a barbarian squat. That’s when after pulling the hammer back in front of your chest you squat, then repeat.

    I only mention this because, based on news stories like this (admittedly from Cana-duh) I’m a thinking it’s time this union of 50 states had a few divorces. And that may take some effort. So I work out.

    I’m a make me a sammich after me and the sledge hammer do some side lunges in a bit.

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  86. i do love me a boisterous secession

    happyfeet (831175)

  87. @88, who doesn’t Mr. feets.

    Although it’s going to have to wait. Me and the sledge hammer just did the side lunges. Starting position is standing with the hammer vertical in front of your chest. If you’re going to do a left lunge, the left hand is on top. If you’re going to do a right lunge the right hand is gripping the hammer on top.

    Step off to the side, letting the hammer fall to the same side, sliding the top hand toward the head of the hammer to catch it for maximum impact. Then shoot back up.

    So the boisterous secession will have to wait until I’m over the urge to puke.

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  88. I must say I find
    intolerant lesbians
    intolerable

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  89. there is common ground
    we both choose to linger ’round
    Gates of Paradise

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  90. ok but after you get over the puking thing i wanna see some real life secession action

    chop chop mister

    happyfeet (831175)

  91. I’m over the puking thing but it’s nearly 9 on a Saturday night so it’s unrealistic of you to expect me to make any progress towards secession until Monday.

    Also chop chop has nothing to do with my sledge hammer. It does have to do with my Gransfors Bruk splitting maul.

    http://www.gransforsbruk.com/en/

    But I don’t work out with that as that would be dangerous.

    In any case working toward secession is something that, at first, should be done quietly.

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/09/texas-secession-texas-official-barry-smitherman-state-actively-preparing-to-become-an-independent-nation/

    Tomorrow is a new day. Body weight exercise only. Well, OK, maybe Indian clubs for the shoulders. Otherwise I won’t be able to mount my horse if I go overboard on the legs.

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  92. Monday’s a holiday

    Tuesday’s good I’ll put a reminder in outlook

    happyfeet (831175)

  93. #SodomGomorrah

    Look it up.

    navyvet (c33501)

  94. i don’t have a facebook page

    1) You don’t?

    2) If some of us do, does that make us “the whore”?

    Patterico (fa28e6)

  95. i’m 100% tolerant

    happyfeet, you may be tolerant, but that hasn’t prevented you from on more than a few occasions, during the past few years, using “gay” in a condescending, snickering manner. Alec-Baldwin-ism at its finest.

    Mark (773f60)

  96. happyfeet had a facebook page for a bit but i forgot the password

    happyfeet (831175)

  97. I’m all about the kushti, Mr. feets. Which axiomatically includes the zurkaneh.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPEe7uTuuho

    Ali Farzaneh swinging huge clubbells

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  98. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1LdlS1_kdg

    THE BEST 15 CLUBBELLS EXERCISES

    They named #13 in my honor.

    Steve57 (fb1453)

  99. Happyfascist continuing his fascist ways. Thinks practicing Christians should be punished and shunned. He used to claim that you could follow Christianity, but needed to “service” people anyway. Now he doesn’t even claim that. He thinks people’s thoughts should be controlled. Good fascist.

    NJRob (d36337)

  100. oh my goodness you make that up!

    happyfeet (831175)

  101. You will be forced to accept. It’s a thing. Happyfeet is intolerant of intolerance.

    JD (3b5483)

  102. see that’s not even true Mr. JD where did i say the stupid jeweler should be forced to do accept anything

    i didn’t

    and there’s absolutely nothing in these news stories what suggest anybody tried to force the stupid jeweler to accept anything

    not the stupid canadian lesbians

    not the government

    not even the notoriously Canadian Hillside alum Ryan Reynolds tried to do any forcings on the jewelers

    and certainly not me

    i think people are just so excited by the christians-as-victim narrative they’re making stuff up to suit this thrilling and dramatic narrative

    happyfeet (831175)

  103. JD, the fellow cannot help it. More lazy thinking and clown nose on, clown nose off.

    Notice all the “making things up” business? Sheer Narrative uber alles.

    Such an unserious and intellectually lazy person, who helps out such damaging memes.

    The jeweler did things politely and correctly. His opponents were the ones making things up. And threatening him.

    But that’s okay.

    Michelle Obama said that we would not be permitted to go back to our old ways. Perhaps that is so. Sad.

    Simon Jester (c94262)

  104. where did the lesbians threaten him Mr. Jester?

    please cite evidence

    don’t be a lazy pickle

    be serious!

    how can you do peer reviews and then turn around and not cite evidence for your own assertions?

    it’s befuddling!

    what has been reported about the lesbians doing or saying anything to threaten the jeweler?

    please to quote the relevant text ok thank you

    happyfeet (831175)

  105. Mr. Feet, I think you are nothing but a waste of time; a lazy poseur. Sort of a troll, really.

    The owner certainly reported many threatening phone calls and Facebook posts. Next you will say that phone calls are no big deal. I suspect Patterico might disagree.

    Unless you think he is lying, too.

    Which is funny. You lie about yourself fairly consistently…like voting in elections, for example. All part of this bizarre clown act of yours.

    The only reason I am even communicating with a person like you is that you persist in supporting people who are trying to stomp on free expression, and insulting or diminishing those who are getting stomped upon.

    And remember, I am not in the minority on that opinion.

    You get your say a lot. Personally, I think you drown out other people. I would feel differently if you would communicate like an adult, but you think you are cute. It’s also lazy. Anyway, it’s ironic you think it is just fine to threaten people to shut them up. And don’t wriggle away; you have repeatedly thought that was a fine idea….so long as those people have ideas with which you don’t agree.

    But irritating as I find your schtick, it’s not my blog. Patterico seems to think it’s fine to let you prattle on.

    I prefer to think of you as lazy. It’s more flattering to you.

    Simon Jester (c94262)

  106. ok so you agree that no the stupid lesbians did not threaten the jeweler in any way

    happyfeet (831175)

  107. Lesbians pick Christian jeweler expecting him to decline making their rings so they can sue him. He makes them as contracted, but knows marriage is between man and a woman. Lesbians unsatisfied they couldn’t win the lawsuit jackpot were at least determined to damage the business by making him keep the worthless jewelry and demand their money back. Jeweler says no because he carried out the contract lawfully and in Canada though speech isn’t a hate crime yet.

    Gay fascists with the support of happyfascist launch an attack using the media and other leftists to threaten to kill the man and destroy his business unless he acedes to the wishes of the lesbians.

    Fearing for his life and business, he relents and is now left without compensation for his work, has his name sullied and worthless, custom jewelry.

    Fascists like the lesbians, the left and happyfascist rejoice.

    njrob (5b50d2)

  108. last one i was traveling (2012) … and the opportunity for the trip came up and had to be seized

    i did send away for an absentee ballot but i didn’t get the papers in time

    and the one before that is kind of a gray area

    i went to a hidden little park and voted for Meghan’s coward daddy

    it was a cool evening, whispering of rain that would never fall

    most of my fellow voters were much much older than I, uniformly white, and I felt nothing for them

    but anyways it was a provisional ballot, so for sure it was never counted

    i’ll very likely not vote in 2016

    if it’s Mr. Walker I will

    but none of the others do much for me in the sense I’d be moved to cast a quixotic deep blue state vote for them

    happyfeet (831175)

  109. The lesbian couple demanded their money back for custom rings, even though the couple admitted the rings and service were satisfactory, because the couple didn’t like the jeweler’s beliefs. Their demand for a refund when the product and service were proper, as well as their publicizing of this dispute in order to hurt the business good will, threatens the jeweler’s livelihood.

    DRJ (e80d46)

  110. It’s good you don’t vote. Not everyone should.

    DRJ (e80d46)

  111. his own bigotry is what’s gonna do him in

    putting up vulgar signs like that what are so divisive

    it’s a questionable business practice I think

    and an ill-considered decision on the jeweler’s part

    I have no doubt that if the stupid lesbians had known of these signs they never would’ve ordered their rings from that guy’s store

    so they asked for their money back

    personally I think the jeweler should’ve said hey stupid lesbians too effing bad

    (how else will the stupid lesbians learn to be more careful?)

    but asking for their money back – that is not malicious

    and a prompt refund might’ve been judicious

    one more thing and this is key

    if you’re gonna put up a stupid sign

    when word gets out you should not whine

    for why the sign? I cannot see

    if not for the publicity

    happyfeet (831175)

  112. Happyfascist has gotta be fascist.

    He’s the scorpion.

    njrob (5b50d2)

  113. If the aggrieved lesbians didn’t bother to check for the sign when they went into the store and ordered their custom made rings, why should they expect a refund, as the jeweler delivered the product they wanted at a price they agreed to?

    JD (3b5483)

  114. they didn’t go into the store they live in another town

    some canadian guy came around selling rings i guess

    happyfeet (831175)

  115. nevermind it looks like they did go into the store

    i got confuzzled by a different article

    happyfeet (831175)

  116. apparently what happened is the sign wasn’t up when the lesbians went in

    Esau Jardon, the co-owner of Today’s Jewellers, said he posts several signs in his store throughout the year.

    “I have been posting different aspects of my religious beliefs the last 11 years, and I’ve never had one single problem with any of my customers,” he said.

    “It seems to be a Canadian right to post what you believe.”

    Jardon said the sign in question was posted for Mother’s Day, because it had to do with families. They also have pamphlets and cards that they hand out at the store as well.

    here’s what’s kinda confuzzling:

    White and Renouf hope to get a refund when the man who sold them the rings returns to town next month — but it’s not guaranteed.

    happyfeet (831175)

  117. putting up vulgar signs like that what are so divisive

    Happyfeet, the very fact you have avoided mentioning your own basic personal lifestyle — meaning you’ve not come out and casually announced your relationship with a wonderful girl or certainly marriage to a great woman (which almost no guy is ever hesitant to mention) — and sidetracked the matter a few weeks ago, presumably is a sign (your own “sign,” if you will) that while you don’t mind talking the talk, you dislike walking the walk. IOW, methinks you doth protest too much, and you’re not candid enough with us (if not yourself too) to say whether that famous phrase, in this instance, applies to you or not.

    By contrast, the two women complaining about the jewelry store appear to proudly, aggressively flout their homosexuality, must flout their political leftism, and are likely two very obnoxious, shameless, self-entitled humans to be around.

    Speaking of which, several years ago I recall dealing with 2 women who I believed were gay, and I never forgot how their tone around me dropped — any pretense of friendliness they previously expressed towards me disappeared (and our conversations had never gone beyond exchanging pleasantries) — when I suspect they got word through a third party that I was politically of the right.

    Mark (09522c)

  118. you’re weird and creepy

    happyfeet (831175)

  119. You’re avoiding the question.

    Mark (09522c)

  120. Mark – I agree, that was creepy.

    JD (3b5483)

  121. Creepy to dramatically, aggressively support SSM and, in turn, to dramatically, aggressively bad mouth opponents of SSM, and then to sidestep the matter of why SSM is personally causing a person to respond in such a manner? Yep, that’s weird, that’s creepy.

    Mark (09522c)

  122. I prefer not to talk online about my gender or my spouse’s gender. I don’t think you can draw any meaningful conclusions about me as a result.

    DRJ (e80d46)

  123. DRJ, context is important when dealing with various issues, and, for example, a person who is extremely wealthy probably — probably — will perceive Issue A, B or C differently from that of a person living on $10,000 a month, and so on, and so forth.

    Mark (09522c)

  124. Lesbians are not at all hesitant to declare loudly and in some detail their sexual preferences. A friend of mine is an operating room supervisor. She tells me that lesbian nurses spend hours talking about their sex lives around straight nurses, confident that no complaint would ever affect them and the straight nurses know they risk their careers by complaining.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  125. I may be wrong because I’m totally speculating,
    but it would not surprise me if these folks did not put up the sign at least in part as a response to having the lesbian couple come in.
    I’m guessing that upon being personally placed in the situation for the first time,
    they asked themselves,
    “Self, I would be dishonest and perhaps even cowardly if I went along as if I thought SSM was a good thing,
    and if I refuse service there will be a big messy scene.
    Is refusing service necessary, or is there something else I can do that allows me to maintain my integrity and not be in denial of what the Lord teaches while rendering service?
    Yes, there is, I can exercise my right of free speech and still give service!!”

    Except I do not know the status of hate speech rules in Canada. I had heard at one time rumors that to be an outspoken opponent of anything SS, even in a church pulpit, was coming under scrutiny. I don’t know if that was overreach, a worry about things on the horizon, or things already present in Canada.

    No matter which, it is clear that lack of discrimination in service is not what they want. They want to be agreed with and affirmed, which in one way is perfectly understandable.
    I think the present situation is the result of all of those who did not think hard enough, or listen to others who already understood, that the aim was NOT “just leave us alone” but “agree with us loud and clear.
    It seems that at least in the short run, business owners and all of us need to be prepared to suffer at least verbal abuse if we aren’t willing to endorse the narrative.
    Of course, lots of sensitivity, wisdom, and love are still called for. Taking a stand for what one believes in does not have to be any more obnoxious or ill-advised than it has to be.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  126. As an immigrant, one of the reasons the tolerant Jardon moved to the country was because of its “freedom of rights”, including freedom of religion and speech

    Good thing he didn’t express anything bad about Islam, then…

    IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (225d0d)

  127. There’s a lot of insecure gays in this world, I guess, that cannot take anything but unanimous support without wilting.

    No, if you aren’t ardently supporting them, you’re a gay hating, fearmongering, soulless eeeeeeevil individual with no right to make a living.

    If you can’t agree with them, at least get their position right…

    :^9

    IGotBupkis, "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." (225d0d)

  128. No, if you aren’t ardently supporting them, you’re a gay hating, fearmongering, soulless eeeeeeevil individual with no right to make a living.

    this is hyperbole and you are a hyperbolist

    happyfeet (831175)

  129. Lesbians are not at all hesitant to declare loudly and in some detail their sexual preferences.

    Some lesbians. Also some straight women, as well as some men, whether gay and straight. The existence of uninhibited people is not in doubt, and it stands to reason that some of them are lesbians, but a lot more of them are not.

    Milhouse (bdebad)


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