Carly Fiorina Announces
[guest post by Dana]
This morning Carly Fiorina announced her run for the presidency:
“Yes, I am running for president,” Fiorina told ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos on “GMA.” “I think I am the best person for the job.”
She also made use of the opportunity to take a few shots at Hillary:
“She clearly is not trustworthy, about a whole set of things,” Fiorina said this morning. “She peddled a fiction about [Benghazi, Libya] for a month, she hasn’t been transparent about her server and her emails, and now we see now all of these foreign government donations to the Clinton Global Initiative.”
What she’s got: High-level executive and management experience from her tenure as head honcho of Hewlett-Packard; private-sector bona fides bolstering her economic message; compelling secretary-to-CEO professional biography; history as a breast cancer survivor, which marks her as tough and relatable to many women; all but certain status as the only female in the GOP field, which allows her both to stand out and to cudgel Hillary Clinton in ways that might seem sexist coming from any non-female rival.
What she lacks: National name recognition; a significant record of public service; a winning record in electoral politics; policy chops on any topic unrelated to job creation and regulation (and substantive detail on those); convincing answers to questions about her ouster from HP; a clear and plausible early-state strategy.
She may not be top-tier and she may be running for VP, but I like Fiorina and think she’s one to keep an eye on. I also like that she isn’t afraid to go after Hillary and say what needs to be said. Of course, it’s still pretty early in the game.
–Dana
Hello.
Dana (86e864) — 5/4/2015 @ 7:01 amwell Rosencrantz and Guildenstern,* would never downgrade a candidate, on our side,
*authors of Julianne’s Bender, hagiographer for Obama,
narciso (ee1f88) — 5/4/2015 @ 7:26 amI’m a fan.
carlitos (c24ed5) — 5/4/2015 @ 7:49 amI think she is a not very impressive candidate. Her campaign against Barbara Boxer was weak. I agree she is running for VP but, if the GOP wants a woman, Susanna Martinez is a double plus. A woman and Hispanic. In 2012, she denied any interest in the VP role but things change. That was four years ago.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 5/4/2015 @ 8:08 amShe’s a club to hit Hillary with, and no more. Her history at HP made too many enemies, knowing too much dirt, for her to be viable long-term. She bugged members of her board of directors and led the company into a morass. Nope.
But she is effective at hitting Hillary, and that’s useful.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/4/2015 @ 8:09 ammostly i just associate her with mccain
which is her own stupid fault
happyfeet (a037ad) — 5/4/2015 @ 8:10 amAs for VP, I favor a Cruz/Rubio ticket. If the Hispanic vote is so important, why not try to pry it away from the Dems, while electing Cruz. Seems a win-win kind of thing.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/4/2015 @ 8:11 ameh, i’m not thrilled with her as a politician. But I do appreciate her running so that we can all do a “compare and contrast” of MSM coverage of her and H.C
seeRpea (81fcfe) — 5/4/2015 @ 8:35 amGreetings:
Well as to your last paragraph observation, all I can say is “Now sisters, please. Can’t you all get along? Remember you’re all victims of the same oppression.”
11B40 (6abb5c) — 5/4/2015 @ 8:39 amShe was fired from Hewlett Packard and before that she was part of the team that ran Lucent into the ground. We can do better.
Charlie Davis (98ab9d) — 5/4/2015 @ 8:52 amKing Arthur has set sail for Avalon.
kishnevi pretending to be Icy (870883) — 5/4/2015 @ 8:54 amWe have no evidence for this.
carlitos (c24ed5) — 5/4/2015 @ 8:56 amIf the Hispanic vote is so important,
Both are Cuban and Cubans are seen by Mexicans as too smart and middle class. Much like blacks see black Republicans as a different race.
Remember, the Cuban immigrants are the middle class of Cuba whereas the Mexican immigrants are the peasants. They know this. They resent the middle class which is why they are such a good voter base for Democrats.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 5/4/2015 @ 8:58 amThe more the merrier. He’ll, even Rick Perry oughtta announce.
Colonel Haiku (39d859) — 5/4/2015 @ 9:05 amHayull
Colonel Haiku (39d859) — 5/4/2015 @ 9:05 amIt takes ballz to run as an R in Cali, given the high number of Dem zombies running around.
Colonel Haiku (39d859) — 5/4/2015 @ 9:08 am“It takes ballz to run as an R in Cali”
Colonel – It also takes ballz to run Fortune 20 companies and not all decisions you make work out or succeed immediately. Props to her.
daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 5/4/2015 @ 9:17 amThey resent the middle class which is why they are such a good voter base for Democrats.
Except that a lot of second and third generation Mexicans ARE middle class. It’s what happens when you come here to work. The guys you see out there (at least in the SW) digging sewer trenches and speaking Mexican Spanish are not the guys who vote.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/4/2015 @ 9:17 amExcept that a lot of second and third generation Mexicans ARE middle class.
My closest friend in medical school was a second generation son of Mexican parents. His mother never learned English and made her own tortillas. His father had a wrought iron business in east LA. He had 10 siblings and all but one had a college degree. That was also 50 years ago. I don’t see that same ethic among the recent immigrants.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 5/4/2015 @ 9:36 amImpressed with her current drift towards conservatism. Probably a set-up for future flip floppiness.
mg (31009b) — 5/4/2015 @ 9:38 amSo she lacks a record of public service. And that’s a negative? The pigs at the trough we have now are doing us a public disservice. She makes sense to me and talks sense to me. I’ll vote for her over the li(k)es of Bush and the other rinos
ThirdWorldMan (f5e090) — 5/4/2015 @ 9:47 amShe ran HP and it’s stock price into the ground. She shipped customer service overseas. And she ran a scared campaign last time out, refusing to oppose illegal immigration. Fiorina is setting herself up as the VP candidate for Jeb, nothing more.
Bugg (aace18) — 5/4/2015 @ 10:57 amcarly quit livin on dreams carly life is not what it seems
such a lonely little girl in a cold cold whirl
happyfeet (a037ad) — 5/4/2015 @ 11:03 amI too am a fan. Of all the R candidates so far only she, as another professional woman, has a chance to get away with saying some of the things about Hillary that absolutely need to be said. I’m sure the media will come up with some kind of name for Carly akin the the “uncle Tom” sobriquet, but she is a smart and tough lady. I don’t think Carly has a chance in hell of being elected president, but I do think she stands to be a very important component and messenger in the 2016 race.
elissa (e46dbf) — 5/4/2015 @ 11:18 amOnly girl can say the things about Hillary that need to be said? What the hell is that supposed to mean?
The thing is though GOP candidates don’t need to talk down Clinton’s wife. Once you get Hillary talking it will happen naturally. Is that Carly’s special power? To pry Hitlary out of the bunker?
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/4/2015 @ 11:27 amAre you new? What the hell it means, papertiger, is that Republican men will be pulverized by the media and the left for pointing out certain things about Historic Lady Hillary. But you already knew that, right? You were here through the 2008 and 2012 elections when those other historic coronations were going on? And the public was made to believe that only a racisty racist would possibly be able to find something to criticize about Obama?
elissa (e46dbf) — 5/4/2015 @ 11:38 amelissa ‘that’s not how any of this works’ I did point out how gossipers and forwarders of slander like Halperin and Heileman, are the last to establish any standard,
narciso (ee1f88) — 5/4/2015 @ 11:41 amnarcisio, I’m sorry, I don’t quite understand what your #27 refers to. Was it something earlier on this thread?
elissa (e46dbf) — 5/4/2015 @ 11:46 amI read the biography of the Hewlett-Packard company, Bill & Dave, and Ms. Fiorina isn’t cast in the best of lights. The author writes that Ms. Florina ran in to trouble when she tried to change the corporate culture at HP — she got too much pushback from the entrenched interests, company morale plummeted, and she was forced out by the board. Setting aside the whole question of whether or not HP’s corporate culture needed to be changed, to me this story has some important lessons: mainly that if you try to change an entrenched culture, whether it is that of a company like HP or whether it is that of our leviathan federal government, you had better go all-in and have a winning strategy mapped out with the ability to execute it. If not, and if you fail, you hurt not only your standing as a leader, but you deal a horrible blow to the idea of reform in general.
What I’m getting at is that based upon her tenure at HP, I’m not so sure that Carly Fiorina is the right person to tame Washington DC.
JVW (8278a3) — 5/4/2015 @ 11:47 am@18 The guys you see out there (at least in the SW) digging sewer trenches and speaking Mexican Spanish are not the guys who vote.
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There are increasing indications that at least *some* of those guys are voting…
junior (79e744) — 5/4/2015 @ 11:53 amMy problem with Carly is she’s never held office, ever.
My other problem with Carly is she was pumped up by Fox news, hand picked and featured to be Babs Boxer’s next victim in a year when Babs was beatable, when the world would have been better served by Hannity standing down about California elections, a thing he doesn’t understand in the slightest.
Boxer’s campaign pitch that year was all about being a deacon in Al Gore’s Church of global warming.
She’d gone full retard. All we needed was an establishment Republican with a track record in California to point that out and bye bye Boxer.
Instead we got Fiorina’s ego stroking herself, and Hannity doing the same, pretending he’s a King maker for a minute.
Carly’s back for some more ego stroking. So what? She’s still not a serious candidate. Carly has fewer credentials than Hillary. It took hard work for Carly to accumulate that lack of achievement.
I worked for Hewlett Packard during the Carly years. She ended them as computer manufacturers.
They became a printer company under her. Sniffing for special tax breaks and sloppy seconds.
Hell no. Carly is just wasting finite air time.
papertiger (c2d6da) — 5/4/2015 @ 12:22 pmShe is a very polished speaker and is not intimidated by the talking heads. That alone is worth something.
Beasts of England (eb8a7c) — 5/4/2015 @ 12:38 pmShe’s going to be the VP candidate, because she can kick the crap out of Hilary.
Mike Giles (ea55d1) — 5/4/2015 @ 12:45 pmIt is GREAT to have so many VichyGOP candidates that I already KNOW I will never vote for!!!
Jeb Bush
Carly Fiorina
Chris Christie
If only Mitt Romney, John Huntsman and Gary Johnson would announce, my list would be nearly complete!
WarEagle82 (d35bad) — 5/4/2015 @ 1:45 pmThere are increasing indications that at least *some* of those guys are voting…
No doubt. Particularly in places where the authorities benefit from it, and turn a blind eye.
But it doesn’t create a demographic. If it were rampant, it would be obvious. There are too many cameras.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 5/4/2015 @ 2:56 pmI can’t think of another Republican presidential candidate, declared or undeclared, who has been as effective in taking the game to Mrs. Clinton as Carly Fiorina. Can you? I still don’t understand what was going on in 2008 or 2012, but our candidates couldn’t or wouldn’t take the game to Obama. It was disgusting.
Candidate-wise, we seem to have an embarrassment of riches this time around. That’s a welcome change. The party of “old White men” isn’t looking so old, so White, or so male. And in terms of the true measure of diversity, diversity of substantive political views, it is a particularly presentable bunch. With every new day, Jeb Bush is looking more like an anachronism than an inevitability. That, alone, is a wonderful consolation.
I loved your quip in #12, carlitos.
ThOR (a52560) — 5/4/2015 @ 3:30 pmThree things I like about Carly Fiorina.
One, she does sound like a mother in law.
Two, she is not in a perpetual state of rage.
Three, she did not achieve her position as result of who she married.
David Lentz (b4deba) — 5/4/2015 @ 3:44 pmRe: #29
I hear that when it was announced that she was leaving HP, employees started singing “Ding Dong the Witch is Dead”.. Pissing off both the board and the worker bees takes real talent.
Bill (cf98e2) — 5/4/2015 @ 4:45 pmI don’t dislike her. I just think she is not that good a candidate. The good candidate in CA that year was Meg Whitman and she was the target in a well run Democrat hit piece on the illegal nanny that lied on her work application. Whitman and her husband fired her when they learned she was illegal but Gloria Allred (a good name) worked the media very well.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 5/4/2015 @ 5:04 pmMeg Whitman squandered so so so much monies on nothing but nothing
it was a horrifying spectacle to watch
she’s disqualified
plus she’s a Van Jones leg-humper
i’m not comfortable with that
happyfeet (831175) — 5/4/2015 @ 5:12 pmhere is the top-o-page teaser right now on the National Soros Radio home page
happyfeet (831175) — 5/4/2015 @ 5:16 pmThe Democrats are better at playing political chess. They knew that Miguel Estrada would be a dynamite USSC nominee so they blocked him at the Appeals Court level with a filibuster.
They did the same thing with Janice Rogers Brown. Bush finally appointed her but the election was coming soon and she was not available when he needed her.
Meg Whitman is a self made billionaire and would have been a good governor and now would be a real candidate for president. I don’t know what Happy is fantasizing about.
Anyway. Democrats are better at this than we are. It’s their whole life.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 5/4/2015 @ 5:19 pmthis is not someone i can relate to
oh my goodness
the humanity
happyfeet (831175) — 5/4/2015 @ 5:21 pmJerry Brown spent about $100 million of the teacher’s union money. I assume you prefer that.
Mike K (90dfdc) — 5/4/2015 @ 6:08 pmAccording to final reports, Whitman spent $144 million from her own personal funds.
this is not someone i can relate to
oh my goodness
the humanity
happyfeet (831175) — 5/4/2015 @ 5:21 pm
Why? Because she’s successful? 🙂
norcal (b451c4) — 5/4/2015 @ 6:31 pm🙂
happyfeet (831175) — 5/4/2015 @ 6:33 pm“My closest friend in medical school was a second generation son of Mexican parents. His mother never learned English and made her own tortillas. His father had a wrought iron business in east LA. He had 10 siblings and all but one had a college degree. That was also 50 years ago. I don’t see that same ethic among the recent immigrants.”
– Mike K
I do (see the same work ethic amongst recent immigrants). One of my friends from law school has two Mexican parents, who speak limited English, work in physical plant, and make their own tortillas. She graduated last spring. She’s practicing.
So, anecdotally, the work ethic hasn’t changed.
Leviticus (d5b567) — 5/4/2015 @ 6:59 pmSerious question: if she weren’t a woman, would we even have heard of her? Would a man with her record ever be taken seriously as a candidate? Would she even have been hired as CEO at HP if she were a man?
I don’t think the same question necessarily applies to Carson. If he were white he’d be a lot less prominent, there’s no denying that, but if he were determined to run he would have been taken seriously based on his achievements. He is a brain surgeon, after all, and I sincerely hope there’s no affirmative action in that field.
Milhouse (bdebad) — 5/4/2015 @ 7:59 pm