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Open Thread

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 5:53 pm

No post this morning; I overslept when the electricity went out and my alarm clock reset. (Maybe time to spring for a deluxe version with backup batteries? How many decades have I had this thing?) No idea what we’re supposed to be talking about this evening; Twitter seems a-buzz with the Rolling Stone/UVA semi-retraction, so if that’s your preferred topic, go nuts. If it’s not, go nuts with another topic.

94 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. What else is going on?

    Patterico (dc1ebd)

  2. Since it’s an open thread. There’s no better alarm clock than your cellphone. I haven’t owned a watch since I got a cellphone, either.

    nk (dbc370)

  3. Hey Patterico–go retro and get a wind up alarm clock. With Gov. Moonbeam’s insistence upon relying upon unreliable renewable energy, it would be a wise investment for a Southern California lawyer.

    Skeptical Voter (12e67d)

  4. Ixnay that cellphone–when the grid goes down, what do you think is going to happen to the cellphone microwave towers?

    Skeptical Voter (12e67d)

  5. If you’re going to wary about the grid going down then what you want is a rooster. Alarm clock and food.

    nk (dbc370)

  6. Mr. Drudge did an exemplary job on the jobs numbers today

    Mr. Drudge does the jobs Team R refuses to do

    thank you Mr. Drudge

    thank you so much

    happyfeet (831175)

  7. My neighbor had roosters but they’re very hard to program for specific wake-up times.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  8. the grid is all that’s standing between us and gridlessness

    hands up don’t shoot

    i can’t breathe

    angus steak and egg sammiches

    happyfeet (831175)

  9. ==My neighbor had roosters but they’re very hard to program for specific wake-up times.==

    Plus they attract coyotes and then you’re right back to ground zero on the wake-up business.

    elissa (252da0)

  10. happyfeet, did you see the picture Drudge had of the Phi Kappa Psi fraternity house? ΦΚΨ Phi is F. Psi is not U but doesn’t it look like one?

    nk (dbc370)

  11. I am sure everyone here has experienced waking up in the morning (let me finish, duh!) just one minute before your alarm clock goes off. well, Whenever I have this tendency to rebel in the morning by hitting the snooze, I just set my alarm ahead by the snooze amount so it turns in to a wash. but guess what? I end up waking that one freeking minute before the alarm goes off!

    felipe (40f0f0)

  12. IMO the Virginia story is notable for two things, apart from the disintegration of the rape story: First, the UVA President completely overreacted by punishing the entire Greek system based on f mere allegations about a single fraternity. Second, the journalist who wrote the story illustrate the decline in journalistic standards … but, on the plus side, her tweets at are (unintentionally) hilarious.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  13. i didn’t see

    i don’t have a rape agenda per se so i miss a lot of the memes and such

    relax don’t do it when you wanna go to it

    happyfeet (831175)

  14. So you’re foreseeing a future event in your sleep, felipe. It might also explain your stock market successes.

    nk (dbc370)

  15. Good point, elissa. These roosters survived the coyotes and the cougars but not the frying pan.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  16. i love waking up in the morning


    happyfeet (831175)

  17. Sorry about my typos and mispellings. I’m having problems with my comments because the preview box is cutting off, so I can only see about half my comment before I post it. There’s probably some easy solution but it isn’t easy for me, so my current plan is not to read my comments after I post them.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  18. You clearly have an internal clock, felipe. Or your clock makes some kind of noise right before the alarm goes off.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  19. i dunno

    maybe try holding down your control key and scrolling up and down with your mouse til the page behaves more better?

    happyfeet (831175)

  20. cougars is same as mountain lions

    i reject this rebranding effort

    bad kitty

    happyfeet (831175)

  21. the UVA president was a former colleague of Red Squaw Warren

    narciso (ee1f88)

  22. It’s not a problem scrolling up and down, happyfeet. My preview box is extending right so far that it’s off the screen. I think it’s because I enlarged the print so I could read it better, and now it’s too big for the screen. If this is the worst part of getting older, it’s not so bad.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  23. Control – (minus sign) to reduce the page size, DRJ. Once or twice shrinks the entire box to fit. Control + to relarge it for comfort.

    nk (dbc370)

  24. That worked! Thank you, nk.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  25. yes yes but

    it’s hard to explain

    holding the ctrl key down while using the scroll wheel on your mouse can

    it can help

    i do not make the words good

    happyfeet (831175)

  26. De nada, encantada senora.

    nk (dbc370)


    happyfeet (831175)

  28. Pat, if you do buy a clock, remember to use the Amazon widget on the right. Just in case you weren’t aware…

    Gazzer (cb9ee2)

  29. You’re right, happyfeet, that worked, too. Thanks to you as well.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  30. hands up shoot back!

    gunner (1bee4e)

  31. Greta Van Susterrrennenrrrnen almost made my day for a second time when she led off with ” Officials at the University of Va…” before catching herself and correcting to “Virginia”…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  32. I say we bring up #Gamergate and how it applies to journalism in general. Which is the real problem from Trayvon, Ferguson, and UVA among other things.

    They actively believe these days that they are supposed to change people’s minds, so they create narratives and present dishonest themes no one asked for. They’re all writers and they see no division between the fiction and non-fiction sections. They span entertainment and news.

    What led to the near monopoly from the story tellers?

    DejectedHead (5443cc)

  33. The good news is it’s not “due” ’til 2100:

    DNF (3b2963)

  34. I hope that if the official police investigation (which is now apparently occurring) ultimately finds that the Phi Psi guys are-as they claim- clean on this, that they individually and their national organization sue the RS and the so called journalist of that article to kingdom come and back. And maybe the university too. Under pressure “Jackie” has now finally named “the” instigating boy who has finally been interviewed — and he denies ever being her date. He is not a member of Phi Kappa Psi, either. He may belong to a completely different fraternity or none. Oops. And the physical layout of the Phi Kappa Psi house does not match some of the architectural detail that was described in the article. That’d be something if she did go to a party and it was at a completely different house than the one she vilified and caused to be vandalized, huh?. Well you know, all those big brick Greek houses on campus look alike. And in the dark……

    I think this UVA story, especially as it’s been falling apart has gotten so much interest and traction because it is not complex and is really very easy for regular people to understand and judge on their own. It’s like a mystery to be solved. No science or graphs like “global warming” or economics and insurance charts like with “Obamacare” are involved. People don’t need it explained by VOX. That’s how and why people immediately started using the common sense God gave them to ask their own questions and sniff out what didn’t seem right in the whole narrative, and started to wonder why there had been so little verification done before people’s lives were ruined.

    elissa (252da0)

  35. ordinarily I wouldn’t but when it dials straight to eleven:

    narciso (ee1f88)

  36. Makes note to remember Max Fisher suffers from terminal inanity.

    kishnevi (3719b7)

  37. I shed no tears today for TNR, and VoX always and forever UGH!

    elissa (252da0)

  38. somewhere Jann Wenner is biting his pillow in shame…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  39. Oh dear:

    The White House legend that is Barack and Michelle Obama’s romance is heading to the screen. Southside With You, a drama in the vein of Before Sunrise, chronicles the summer 1989 afternoon when the future President of the United States of America wooed his future First Lady on an epic first date across Chicago’s South Side. Get On Up’s Tika Sumpter will play Michelle Obama (née Robinson), while the search is on to cast the young Barack.

    Dana (8e74ce)

  40. Jimmy “Dynomite” Walker!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  41. The site of their first kiss has a plaque to mark that event?
    Excuse me while I go off and swear.

    NK please say that isn’t true.

    kishnevi (294553)

  42. Insert “Wookie” joke here.

    Gazzer (cb9ee2)

  43. I’m quite certain this will be a must miss film-going event for me. But wait till Hillary! finds out. Surely she will want America to see a sanitized soft focus Bubba and Hil Clinton biopic as well.

    elissa (39257e)

  44. I have no idea, kishnevi. I’m a North Sider and West Suburbanite. I know the South Side of Chicago less well than I know Milwaukee and Green Bay.

    nk (dbc370)

  45. i’d like to thank Simon Jester for reminding me about the Coonan 357 1911’s…

    you gotta love teh intarwebz and a local gun store with a “can do” attitude. *-)

    redc1c4 (cf3b04)

  46. Will Michael Dorn play Michelle?

    nk (dbc370)

  47. Matt Taibbi who was fired from one of those startup publications, that employs Greenwald, came up with a splunge worthy rant on the police, in the same publication,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  48. Get a battery clock. Many of them have either GPS or WWV built in and reset themselves as soon as they acquire signal. I’d imagine some plugin clocks also do that.


    JDow (770dee)

  49. I used to have a dog that would start scratching at the door right as the alarm woke me up.
    Power out wouldn’t effect him.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  50. The downside was the dog didn’t understand the concept “weekend” or “sleeping in”.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  51. I used to wonder, about 10 years ago, why people hated Microsoft with a passion. I don’t anymore. Actually I started hating them about five years ago. Now I hate them with a passion.

    I have Windows 8.

    I don’t have programs anymore. NO! Now I have “apps.” The whole thing is really intended for mobile devices like tablets. And so they put it on the laptop I bought last Summer.

    Microsoft: “We gave your laptop the ‘look and feel’ of a mobile device. No need to thank us.”

    Me: “You *&T%^&*& #$%#%T^*! You ruined my *&*&&@#$*^ computer!

    Microsoft: “Good luck getting support for that. He he he.”

    Apparently the people at Microsoft think people buy computers because pet rocks are too simple. No, we need complicated technical devices to tend to and spend our lives maintaining. I now get to spend half my life at the Microsoft website trying to un&T%& Windows 8. Yesterday I spent a couple of joy filled hours trying to figure out why this $^$#*^ piece of #%$^ thought I was on a metered connection.

    It turns out there’s a setting that my Windows 8 just decided to switch on. Today I’m surfing the web and all of a sudden, nothing. It turns out Window 8 just decided to put my computer into airplane mode. “I hate Windows 8″ gets a lot of hits when you search on it.

    And the worst part? When you go to the “Microsoft Community,” as you must with this stupid thing to find out what the he33 these people were thinking when they created this $%%$#%&^ #$#$@ and how do I make it stop, you get to deal with the same condescending t$#$s who created it.

    “Sounds like operator error. The reason your task manager isn’t updating is because you set it on pause. The way to fix it is…”

    No I didn’t set it on pause. Why would I want to set it on pause? I didn’t even know there was a “pause” option. And if I had set it on pause, I wouldn’t have to ask you $%$#@#$#s how to fix it.

    It’s always your fault that Windows 8 is a piece of &T%%$*.

    And when people beg to get Windows 7 back (yeah, there’s lots of that going on over at the “Microsoft Community”) they talk about leaving Windows 8 as a downgrade. As in, “Well, if you really want to downgrade to Windows 7…” or “There’s no need to downgrade, just buy…”.

    Yeah. Wanting something that works as opposed to something from Microsoft is a real downgrade.

    Apparently the whole point of Windows 8 is to drive people like me who never bought an operating system, who just stuck with whatever was loaded onto the computer until they needed a knew one, into Windows 9 when that comes out. At least, that’s their plan.

    So I get it now. Microsoft is evil. And I hate them. I truly hate them. I don’t think I’ve ever experienced this much unbridled hatred before. It’s kind of nice, actually, having something I hate this much. I kinda understand how liberals got addicted to feeling this way about Chimpy McHitlerburton.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  52. Power Outages: Seattle City Light has allowed mother nature to turn my lights out three times in the last two weeks for periods of 4 to 8 hours. The worst was Thanksgiving evening with my son’s family having to figure out where things were by flashlight. It is my contention that our local municipalities are becoming overly dependent on Federal regulations, and as a result the people who man our local and county governments are a cut below what they were 20 years ago. Art disagrees, but the evidence is accummulating in favor of my assertion. I strongly suspect that the tree limbs that fell on the power lines were regarded by City Light employees as beings that had a much of a right to exist as their customers, as so who were they to trim them back. The only exception to this was a blue heron who was just a bit too big and he sadly managed to complete a circuit between a 10,000 volt distribution line and ground.

    Windows 8: Put simply, it sucks. Ten years ago I loaded Linux on one of my computers and I found that it was functional, but it was going to take a couple of months to really get into it. With Windows 8 there is no point in getting into it. I regret that decision daily. I just use the desktop app in Windows 8 and I can sort of manage to use excel, word, access, and various web-browsers, but my fat fingers often interrupt my activity as it launches me into some app that I really didn’t want to be in. I also didn’t like having to give MS a credit card in order to activate the damn thing. It was already paid for, what did they need my cc info for except for things that I otherwise wouldn’t consent to. My hunch is that this operating system is optimized for large cartels who want to collect personal information from all of those who unfortunately bought their damn product. Windows 8 is silicon valley’s ObumbleCare.

    bobathome (348c8a)

  53. When can we hit obama with a bus?

    mg (31009b)

  54. Happy St. Nicholas Day, everyone.

    nk (dbc370)

  55. well we know Windows Vista is dark magic, Edwin Black wrote a novel in the late 90s, where he hinted as much.

    narciso (ee1f88)

  56. Steve57, I bought a new laptop the very end of August for personal use. I anguished over what version of Windows to get. When two people I trust (one a young techie-type and one an old techie-type both urged me toward a model with Windows 7 instead of one with 8 I took their advice. “You’ll be much happier,” they both said in a rather cagey manner. Even then, its been a bit of a transition from my old machine, but overall I am very happy so far. I have not needed to interact with any Microsoft people whatsoever. By saying I don’t feel your pain I hope I don’t sound braggy or holier than thou. I just wanted to sympathize by acknowledging that there is definitely a great deal of unhappiness and wide recognition of problems with Windows 8 out there. It’s not you.

    I also agree with the comment about the format and functionality of many web pages being dumbed down and/or reconfigured to primarily accommodate smart phone and tablet users. Me no likey. Especially when it has happened on several of my go-to news sites that I only ever access on a computer.

    elissa (429c60)

  57. I have three operating systems on the computer I am now using (I built it myself, TYVM). XPpro, Vista, and 7. XP is for archiving dvds and for video editing. Vista for (some) video games (I know, who buys an op-sys for a game?), and 7 for surfing and other video games. I waited at least one full year (18 months for Vista)before purchasing each new op-sys for exactly the reasons Steve57 outlined! I hate MS about as much as I hate automobile traffic, so I drive accordingly. Yeah, I will skip Windows 8 entirely.

    felipe (40f0f0)

  58. I am encouraged that the crack whore death-cultist minority have their first president.

    It is lamentable though that future candidates from their membership will be unjustly profiled by the electorate.

    DNF (afe862)

  59. There will be no Windows 9, they’re going directly to Windows 10 !

    There are various reasons reported for skipping 9; my guess is that 10 will be what 8 was supposed to be, less the mobile features, so it will be another even numbered Windows, and we will have to wait for version 11 for the next stable Windows. :(

    htom (bae272)

  60. I will be interested to see how Hillary’s 2016 mantra of “We must empathize with our enemies” works out.

    It worked out so well in Benghazi, Egypt, Syria, Russia……..

    What could go wrong.

    She had one job. Flying a lot of miles.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  61. Hillary is so extremely unappealing to everyone. She might Bob Dole herself into position but I can’t think of a more delightfully defeatable candidate.

    SarahW (267b14)

  62. Power Outage (update): Seattle City Light has up’ed its record to five outages in the last two weeks. I wonder where the maintenance money is going? Not graft exactly, but like Obola tasking NASA with outreach to muslim countries, having a city run by a socialist can result in some unexpected consequences.

    Seattle’s Big Dig: The excavations they’ve had to do to rescue Bertha (the tunnel digger-not) have apparently compromised the foundations for the Alaska Way Viaduct. They’ve noticed that some of the viaduct supports have settled 1″ in the last few months. Pretty soon, no tunnel, no viaduct, and traffic problems unlike anything ever seen anywhere. Bikes-R-US!

    bobathome (348c8a)

  63. Bill is more disgusting than granny pantsuit.
    Thanks SarahW for reminding me how much my nose hurt voting for Dole.

    mg (31009b)

  64. hillary needs herself a heaping steaming serving of jeb is what hillary needs

    happyfeet (831175)

  65. Campaign slogans for Hillary?
    Any out there?

    steveg (794291)

  66. Hillary! Because what the world needs more laughter.

    nk (dbc370)

  67. Oh, forget it. Hillary’s not even funny anymore.

    nk (dbc370)

  68. Because what the world needs now is cankles.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  69. Hillary 2016: Because Menopause!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  70. You had Obama, now try a REAL woman.

    nk (dbc370)

  71. nk (dbc370) — 12/6/2014 @ 6:26 pm

    NK wins the thread!

    Your T-shirt is in the mail (guaranteed to arrive on Dec. 32)

    felipe (40f0f0)

  72. Hey felipe, what’s the first rule in Chemistry?

    nk (dbc370)

  73. The media for some reason doesn’t seem too interested in this run-off race. But the AP has called it for Cassidy over Landrieu. Welcome to Washington Sen. Cassidy of Louisiana!

    elissa (03b28a)

  74. Do you mean to say that the win does not cry Mary, elissa?

    nk (dbc370)

  75. That first half of Wisconsin and OSU was a pathetic excuse for football. On some of those OSU touchdowns the Wisconsin defense had taken themselves out of the play, I could have run one of those plays up the middle for OSU…

    Wisconsin has one drive, killed it with a ball thrown right to the OSU.

    Give it to Gordon 3 out of 4 plays in a row, Wis has nothing top play for now except a little bit of self respect and letting Gorgon have a chance to make a good showing in spite of the rest of the team.

    But if you go back to last year, you will see that I side the playoff change would do nothing except change the controversy in college football, anybody who said a 4 team playoff was the answer was either deceiving themselves or lying.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  76. One thing to look forward to, about half of the time or so Gordon breaks his first run of the second half for a 30+ gain.

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  77. Hillary is so extremely unappealing to everyone. She might Bob Dole herself into position but I can’t think of a more delightfully defeatable candidate.

    SarahW (267b14) — 12/6/2014 @ 11:53 am

    I think if Hillary fails to win in 2016, it will more than likely be that she is denied the nomination once again. Whoever gets it will be presented by the media as a “fresh face”, and they’ll win by getting the same swing voters, more or less, who thought Obama was real exciting.

    Gerald A (d65c67)

  78. 63. I cannot endure the waddle to the podium by the Beave another 11 months.

    DNF (afe862)

  79. I just drove to the store and I heard the creepiest ad on the radio. It was so weird I have no idea what exactly they were pitching. It had something to do with providing your child with a unique educational program tailored to meet exactly your child’s needs. Because every child is different, and a program designed for one child just won’t work for another.

    But it was one of those ads where all the actors keep finishing each other’s sentences. So they had identical, interchangeable little cogs in the machine droning on about individuality. It went like this.

    Clone 1: There are 75 million children in the US…

    Clone 2: and no other child learns…

    Clone 3: exactly like me, not even…

    Clone 4: all the other Stepford kids in this ad…

    Clone 5: finishing each other’s thoughts…

    Clone 6: because we all think exactly alike…

    Clone 7: all the time.

    Let’s just say it was less than effective. As I mentioned, I can’t even remember what exactly they were selling. All I remember is thinking, “OMG, they hired The Boys from Brazil to talk about how every individual child is a unique human being, all different from each other.”

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  80. 74.Hey felipe, what’s the first rule in Chemistry?

    It’s been a long time, but I swear the first thing I was taught in chemistry (lab)was to not taste (put in mouth) anything!

    Am I having a “Sammy” moment?

    felipe (40f0f0)

  81. Or maybe that was kindergarten.

    felipe (40f0f0)

  82. Yeah, you got it. “Don’t lick the spoon.”

    nk (dbc370)

  83. Roubini says the world ends in 2016, Grant, following, in 2017:

    “My generation gave former tenured economics professors discretionary authority to fabricate money and to fix interest rates.

    We put the cart of asset prices before the horse of enterprise.

    We entertained the fantasy that high asset prices made for prosperity, rather than the other way around.

    We actually worked to foster inflation, which we called ‘price stability’ (this was on the eve of the hyperinflation of 2017).

    We seem to have miscalculated.

    Your government is lying to your face:

    DNF (afe862)

  84. 52. Steve57 (c4b0b3) — 12/5/2014 @ 10:38 pm

    And when people beg to get Windows 7 back (yeah, there’s lots of that going on over at the “Microsoft Community”) they talk about leaving Windows 8 as a downgrade. As in, “Well, if you really want to downgrade to Windows 7…” or “There’s no need to downgrade, just buy…”.

    I’m sticking with Windows XP. I don’t think you can run old DOS programs past that.

    You may be able to buy some refurbished computers with older operating systems, which will work better than they did when the operating systems were new because there’s more memory and so on.

    Sammy Finkelman (7e7e58)

  85. There are not many roosters around, but in a lot of places there are birds that chirp..

    Sammy Finkelman (7e7e58)

  86. Chris Wallace and too many otehrs seem to have bought into the notion that Garner was choked. He was not

    Linda Chavez had a column in which she wrote he was re-selling cigarettes.

    Maybe you could make some money that way, but he was probably getting them below wholesale price from a buttlegger.

    Brit Hume said on Fox News Sunday there’s an utter lack of balance in the discussion – no talk of social pathology in the black community.

    But there’s a reason that’s not mentioned!

    It’s not politically correct, and it smacks of racism to say there is more social pathology – even to say there is more crime – in black neighborhoods.

    Sammy Finkelman (7e7e58)

  87. A superb spot if your into sushi.

    mg (31009b)

  88. Has anyone else noticed that a slight majority of pennies now seem to be dated before 1990? And we have very few quarters past 2008. Not like it was till then.

    I think it may be a combination of the recession, which means people spend less money, and people using cash less.

    Sammy Finkelman (7e7e58)

  89. pple has come up with a new invention – a phone that when dropped, senses it is falling, and attempts to avoid landing on the screen, which can break.

    I think Bell Labs long ago, came up with a much simpler system to prevent relephones from getting damaged by falling.

    It didn’t have glass parts or the equivalent, it is true.

    But what you do is study ways somehting can get damaged, and recess it or protect it in some way so that it hard to damage it.

    Sammy Finkelman (7e7e58)

  90. And we have very few quarters past 2008.

    Vending machines and payphones. Inflation and cellphones. Vending machines take dollar bills because most, or all, the things they sell these days cost much closer to a dollar than they do to a quarter. Payphones take quarters, but few even exist any more and few people use those that do.

    I think it may be a combination of the recession, which means people spend less money, and people using cash less.

    You don’t get the answers to real world questions by thinking about them, Sammy. You get them by observing real world facts and seeing which ones best fit your question.

    That is the difference between science and philosophy, BTW. Which, I suppose, is at least better than mysticism which does not permit either thinking or observation.

    nk (dbc370)

  91. 92. And also now parking meters have started to use cards rather than coins.

    I think it is two trends – more cashlessness, and the recession. The dropoff in new quarters seems to have happened just around the end of 2008.

    I think theer’s also now a trend toward older pennies in circulation – I am looking for some confirmation of that – but that started much more recently.

    Sammy Finkelman (8bd44f)

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