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7/8/2014

Immigration Issues: Updates

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:33 am

[guest post by Dana]

The previously mentioned amount of $2 billion the president would be requesting to process the unaccompanied minor detainees more quickly, has now almost doubled.

The White House on Tuesday formally requested $3.7 billion from Congress in emergency funding to deal with an influx of unaccompanied minors from Central America, a far higher amount than the Obama administration had previously signaled.

The money would go to several federal agencies, including the Departments of Justice, Homeland Security, State and Health and Human Services. Funds would be allocated to send more immigration judges to the southern border, build additional detention facilities and add border patrol agents.

The move is aimed at more quickly deporting the tens of thousands of women and children who have entered the country illegally across the souther border, most of them in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas.

Also, as President Obama is still refusing Governor Rick Perry’s invitation to visit the southern border while the president is in Texas, Valerie Jarrett has invited Governor Perry to shake hands with the president on the tarmac.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) has reportedly rejected President Barack Obama’s offer to briefly shake hands when Air Force One lands in Austin on Wednesday. Instead, the governor came back with a counteroffer.

“I appreciate the offer to greet you at Austin-Bergstrom Airport, but a quick handshake on the tarmac will not allow for a thoughtful discussion regarding the humanitarian and national security crises enveloping the Rio Grande Valley in South Texas,” Perry wrote in a letter to Obama. “I would instead offer to meet with you at any time during your visit to Texas for a substantive meeting to discuss this critical issue.”

As a result of Governor Perry’s refusal, or likely because someone in the administration with half a brain figured out that the optics of arrogantly offering to shake hands on a tarmac with the sitting governor in a state that is literally the flashpoint of a “humanitarian crisis” might not be so good, the administration has instead offered to meet with Governor Perry:

Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) said he plans to meet with President Obama to discuss the influx of women and children at the southwest border.

Perry will meet with Obama and local faith and elected leaders in Dallas on Wednesday. Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett invited Perry to the Dallas meeting.

“Governor Perry is pleased that President Obama has accepted his invitation to discuss the humanitarian and national security crises along our southern border, and he looks forward to meeting with the president tomorrow,” Perry spokesman Felix Browne wrote in an e-mail.

And lastly, the first in a series of ads commissioned by U.S. homeland security officials to deter Central American minors from illegally crossing the southern border, has been released:

The public service announcement, in Spanish, is airing in Guatemala as part of U.S. Customs and Border Protection officials’ $1 million multimedia campaign to deter future border crossers.

CPB’s campaign includes about 6,500 public service announcements to run on radio and television in El Salvador, Honduras, and Guatemala through Sept. 7, the Associated Press reports. Billboards throughout Central American countries will warn parents about the dangers of the journey to the U.S.

The Dangers Awareness Campaign also will run in U.S. cities with large Central American populations, including Houston, Los Angeles, New York, Miami, and Washington, D.C.

The translation of the ad follows:

Dear Uncle: My mom continues warning me about heading north. She tells me the maras [violent street gangs] are on the train and the [Mexican] cartels kidnap immigrants. That you have to walk for endless days in the desert. That might be the case, but there are no rewards for those who don’t risk it. I can already imagine myself in the States making great money and relieving my mother’s worries. Thanks, Uncle, we’ll see each other soon.

Then comes the voice of an announcer over images of the boy’s fate:

This idea that it’s now easier for our children to receive documentation in the U.S. is false. What’s true is that we’d be subjecting them to the elements, to the coyotes [violent smugglers of humans], and the [Rio Grande] river. They are our future. We must protect them.

–Dana

82 Responses to “Immigration Issues: Updates”

  1. I meant to include this very disturbing report:

    Despite Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson vowing to “stem the tide” of unaccompanied illegal minors across the southern border with Mexico, thousands more are expected to enter the United States by the end of the year. With the system being overwhelmed, Border Patrol agents are concerned about minors who have admitted to being MS-13 members, a brutal street gang from El Salvador that has been successful in infiltrating American communities. Agents are also concerned about minors who have committed acts like torture and murder in their home countries before heading north to the United States.

    “We have six minors in Nogales who have admitted to killing and doing grievous bodily injuries. One admitted to killing as young as eight years old,” an agent tells Townhall anonymously for fear of losing his job for speaking out. “They are being held for placement in the U.S.”

    “But remember, this is a ‘humanitarian crisis.’ They are just kids,” he said in a frustrated and sarcastic tone. “They are MS-13 gang members. They’ve done everything from torture to murder. They act as teenage ‘enforcers.’”

    Unnerving photo at link.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  2. More money, and faster. Besides, Oliver Willis says he doesn’t believe anything Katie writes!

    Hadoop (f7d5ba)

  3. Nothing about YOU WILL BE SENT BACK. Sort of weak tea from the Administration, but I guess they didn’t want to lie about what they want.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  4. Nothing about YOU WILL BE SENT BACK. Sort of weak tea from the Administration, but I guess they didn’t want to lie about what they want.

    You want ∅ to say he’s going to send back people of color in an election year. My guess is he’ll publicly erect a bigoted strawman so he can torch it in another national address. He hasn’t had a presidential statement since last Thursday.

    Hadoop (f7d5ba)

  5. “Needy, poor people” my ass. They like to reproduce, squirt out kids they can’t afford to raise, send them across the border and yell “Oh, look! Needy children! Help them…or you’re BAD!”

    Bottom line: We’re paying billions of dollars in taxes so Mexicans can screw.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  6. No western country has a problem of too many children. On the contrary, the most important problem most western countries have is not enough children. The “zero population growth” nuts have nearly destroyed the nest they grew in.

    People are wealth. The most crowded countries in the world are Hong Kong and the Netherlands, the least crowded is Mauritania. Where would you rather live?

    Milhouse (b95258)

  7. You can read a comprehensive breakdown of the $3.7 billion here.

    The intended focus:


    · Deterrence, including increased detainment and removal of adults with children and increased immigration court capacity to speed cases

    · Enforcement, including enhanced interdiction and prosecution of criminal networks, increased surveillance, and expanded collaborative law enforcement task force efforts

    · Foreign Cooperation, including improved repatriation and reintegration, stepped-up public information campaigns, and efforts to address the root causes of migration

    · Capacity, including increased detainment, care, and transportation of unaccompanied childre

    Dana (4dbf62)

  8. If the press was not so biased this would be Obama’s Katrina.

    AZ Bob (c949f7)

  9. No western country has a problem of too many children. On the contrary, the most important problem most western countries have is not enough children. The “zero population growth” nuts have nearly destroyed the nest they grew in.

    People are wealth. The most crowded countries in the world are Hong Kong and the Netherlands, the least crowded is Mauritania. Where would you rather live?

    Once again, it’s not a matter of too many, it’s a matter of too many at once.

    Hadoop (f7d5ba)

  10. $3,700,000,000 / 100,000 recipients –> $3,700; give them each $3,000 in American Express checks and a free flight home.

    htom (412a17)

  11. Young men seeing this ad will hear about the money and not the dangers, and will think that this guy was stupid and they’ll be smarter — and that it’s just lies to scare [wimps] anyway.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  12. give them each $3,000 in American Express checks and a free flight home.

    No, you’ll get repeaters that way. $3000 is LOT of money in Honduras.

    Take their fingerprints and DNA and show them the relocation camps. Tell them if they ever show up again, they’ll spend a year there before they are sent home, and then put them on the plane.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  13. The absolute best way to convince kids it isn’t worth it is to send them home immediately so that word of mouth does what it does best.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  14. Have some of these parked visibly at the border crossings. http://thesocialmedic.net/files/2010/12/organ_preservation_unit.jpg

    nk (dbc370)

  15. The previously mentioned amount of $2 billion the president would be requesting to process the unaccompanied minor detainees more quickly, has now almost doubled.

    The response from the House to this should be a big NO.

    If Obama needs funds for this crisis of his own creation, he can gut any one of his other social programs.

    Then comes the voice of an announcer over images of the boy’s fate:

    Impressive. A million bucks spent to create something that sounds more like begging and pleading instead of an actual deterrent.

    Blacque Jacques Shellacque (51809b)

  16. No western country has a problem of too many children.

    Milhouse, Milhouse, Milhouse. You are mixing it up there fella. Not having enough of our own children does not mean we need to take in the impoverished, diseased, illiterate and sometimes dangerous children from other countries and cultures. And if we don’t have too many children then why is it government policy to legally and financially support a national abortion clinic to kill about a million a year? I can’t understand how American leftists can run around demanding abortion and yet call not wanting foreign illegal kids a “humanitarian crisis”. So killing our American children is okay but denying illegal kids entry is inhuman?

    People are wealth. The most crowded countries in the world are Hong Kong and the Netherlands, the least crowded is Mauritania. Where would you rather live?

    People are definitely NOT wealth. Especially children. Especially children who are sick, poor, illiterate and can’t speak English. And you will please observe that Hong Kong and The Netherlands are crowded with Chinese and Dutch, not Guatemalans, Nicaraguans and Mexicans. Hell, I’d be all for Chinese and Dutch immigrants with their work ethic, good health and in the case of the Chinese, love of capitalism over a bunch of poor socialists from yet another socialist country that can’t care for them.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  17. 3.7 billion isn’t even half of what thugmerica took off that french bank

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  18. These “children” are coming here bringing with them disease, poverty and most of all their culture, which is from socialist countries. They are not Americans, don’t think like Americans and most likely will never act like or be Americans. They can’t speak English. They will be indoctrinated in our now socialist public school system. So what do you think they will become here in America? I’ll tell you: the new radical left Democrat voting block and the new addition to the Welfare rolls. If they work, and that’s a big if, they’ll work under the table, pay no taxes and still collect welfare. But the one thing the Democrats are absolutely sure of is that they will always, always vote straight Dem. If you don’t know that then I got a bridge to sell ya.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  19. He wants $Bs to keep ‘em here and scatter them across America and he’ll spend nothing to deport them.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  20. We might consider shipping all these illegals to Michigan to repopulate Detroit. The countries they came from look exactly like Detroit and since they have all the same fiscal, social, cultural, political, legal and economic policies that the Democrat leftists employed to create Detroit they should feel right at home. Plus, if we can keep all the grand experiments and dumbass failures of the leftists contained to just a few areas we may be able to salvage the rest of the country.

    They’re not illegal aliens.
    They’re not undocumented immigrants.
    They’re unregistered Democrats.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  21. $3,700,000,000 / 100,000 recipients –> $3,700; give them each $3,000 in American Express checks and a free flight home.

    It’s not about those 100K, its about trying to prevent 1M more from joining them.

    · Deterrence, including increased detainment and removal of adults with children and increased immigration court capacity to speed cases

    · Enforcement, including enhanced interdiction and prosecution of criminal networks, increased surveillance, and expanded collaborative law enforcement task force efforts

    · Foreign Cooperation, including improved repatriation and reintegration, stepped-up public information campaigns, and efforts to address the root causes of migration

    · Capacity, including increased detainment, care, and transportation of unaccompanied childre

    Most of these sound OK, if 0bama could be trusted to implement them, but he can’t. The House should appropriate the money, but give it all to the border states, not the feds, together with the authority to enforce the law themselves.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  22. MS13? Look at those tats! Don’t recall any of those being included in beisbol card packs with the bubble gum slab

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  23. One more item for the list there Milhouse:

    A Fence. A fence and the manpower and budget to maintain and patrol it. As Krauthammer recently asked: “If fences don’t work why is there one around the White House”? The White House has several fences and a boat load of armed guards. Perhaps that’s why Obama doesn’t walk into the Green Room and see a “humanitarian crisis”.

    Hoagie (4dfb34)

  24. Not having enough of our own children does not mean we need to take in the impoverished, diseased, illiterate and sometimes dangerous children from other countries and cultures.

    Poverty, disease, and illiteracy can be easily cured. Dangerousness can’t be, but that only applies to a small minority, and only to the older “minors”, not to the children.

    And if we don’t have too many children then why is it government policy to legally and financially support a national abortion clinic to kill about a million a year?

    Why are you asking me that? It’s a stupid and suicidal policy, quite besides being morally indefensible. Even the Nazis didn’t kill their own children!

    – I can’t understand how American leftists can run around demanding abortion and yet call not wanting foreign illegal kids a “humanitarian crisis”.

    Again, why do you expect me to explain leftists? Have you somehow confused me with one?!

    People are definitely NOT wealth. Especially children. Especially children who are sick, poor, illiterate and can’t speak English. And you will please observe that Hong Kong and The Netherlands are crowded with Chinese and Dutch, not Guatemalans, Nicaraguans and Mexicans. Hell, I’d be all for Chinese and Dutch immigrants with their work ethic, good health and in the case of the Chinese, love of capitalism over a bunch of poor socialists from yet another socialist country that can’t care for them.

    Children are not socialists! A Guatemalan child is no more socialist than a Dutch or Chinese child. If they’re raised in America, they’re no more likely than native-born children to become socialists. If you’re concerned about children in America growing up to be socialists, fix the education system, by taking control away from the socialist teachers’ unions. But that concern applies equally to native-born and immigrant children.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  25. One more item for the list there Milhouse:

    A Fence. A fence and the manpower and budget to maintain and patrol it.

    Absolutely.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  26. The pilgrims were the first uninvited illegal aliens bringing diseases like small pox with them to launch their criminal activities here. Native americans welcoming uninvited illegal alien disease ridden criminals from Europe since 1492!

    vota (bc8f6c)

  27. Deport republicans not the children!

    vota (bc8f6c)

  28. The pilgrims were the first uninvited illegal aliens bringing diseases like small pox with them to launch their criminal activities here. Native americans welcoming uninvited illegal alien disease ridden criminals from Europe since 1492!

    FOAD!

    Hadoop (f7d5ba)

  29. The White House request would:

    - Provide $1.8B to the Department of Health and Human Services for the care of unaccompanied children, including shelter and medical care.

    this is the same sleazy corrupt white house what’s vowed to shift monies around however it sees fit to fund the obamacare risk corridor program

    happyfeet (8ce051)


  30. President Obama will seek $3.7 billion in emergency funds from Congress to meet the country’s “moral obligation” to care for unaccompanied minors who have flooded in recent months to the southwestern border, White House officials said Tuesday.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  31. The pilgrims were the first uninvited illegal aliens bringing diseases like small pox with them to launch their criminal activities here.

    Criminal activities? Well, they did start out trying to run their colony on communist principles, so you’ve got a point there. But after a year of misery they dumped socialism and prospered, which is a lot faster than most socialists learn the error of their ways, so I think we can forgive them. They may have brought some diseases with them, but there were plenty of diseases here that got brought back to Europe. But the main flaw in your claim is that they were hardly the first. Where do you think the Indians they found here had come from? And what criminal actiivities and diseass did they bring?

    Deport republicans not the children!

    Better still, raise the children to be Republicans, not senile communist nuts like you.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  32. Yeah right. That 3.7 billion will disappear right into the ether along with all the other unaccounted for funny money that was “allocated” by the Obama administration for his “causes”.

    elissa (b62c4b)

  33. “The pilgrims were the first uninvited illegal aliens bringing diseases like small pox with them to launch their criminal activities here.”

    Actually, you idiot, Columbus’ crew were the first visitors and the black slaves brought by the Spanish brought small pox. In gratitude, the Indians sent back to Europe syphillis. Syphillis was unknown in Europe before Columbus trip.

    Maybe you should try another high school, kid.

    Mike K (b5c01a)

  34. Custer died for your sins.

    vota (bc8f6c)

  35. Voda/Perry likes to poop in inappropriate public spots and believes he’s making an important statement when he does.

    elissa (b62c4b)

  36. Hadoop (f7d5ba) — 7/8/2014 @ 10:35 am

    Once again, it’s not a matter of too many, it’s a matter of too many at once.

    About 50,000 plus children from Central America, of all ages, have arrived since the beginning of last October, about double the number the previous fiscal year.

    There are some 300 million plus people in the United States.

    Born each year, let’s say 3 million. Ballpark estimate.

    If there are 60,000 children divided by 5 years that is 12,000 children.

    12,000 / 3,000,000 is 0.004 – an increase over the base of less than half of one percent.

    The only reason you might have for complaining is the idea that that illegal immigration (or immigration period) can only be stopped when the numbers are small. Otherwise the deterrence system collapses, and so does the political will.

    If there were not 50,000 a year, but 5 million a year there would be nothing you could do about it, except to channel it somewhat. Damming it up would be quite impossible.

    At the current level it is less than nothing.

    You actually can’t do anything about the 50,000 but you may hope to prevent the numbers from growing too fast. If that’s what you are worried about.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  37. No, smallpox came the year before the Pilgrims.

    A previous colony in Maine in 1605 was abandoned because at that time there were a lot of Indians there.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  38. Yeah right. That 3.7 billion will disappear right into the ether along with all the other unaccounted for funny money that was “allocated” by the Obama administration for his “causes”.

    Yes. Which is why I think Congress should give it to the border states instead, and authorise them to enforce federal law.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  39. everybody’s talking bout smallpox smallpox

    america lol

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  40. Vota/Perry is like your crazy great uncle who flirted with communism in the 1930s and annoys everyone at Thanksgiving dinner because he blurts out something like, “Roosevelt’s worst decision was that he didn’t close down Wall Street once and for all,” or “Franco wouldn’t have won the Spanish Civil War if Andrew Mellon hadn’t sent him gold that he plundered from the Incas.” After a while you learn to ignore his ramblings.

    JVW (c64f1f)

  41. VotaPerry,

    Custer died in 1876.
    When will you ?

    Elephant Stone (5c2aa0)

  42. Sammy,

    Why do you believe the United States is not entitled to defend its borders ?

    Elephant Stone (5c2aa0)

  43. Dear America,

    I can’t meet with Governor Perry at the border crisis because I will be too busy attending a fundraiser at the Austin home of filmmaker Robert Rodriguez. I wonder if his house would be the appropriate place to raise the public issues of gun control and gratuitous violence, since his films feature nothing but gun violence and gratuitous violence.

    Love,
    Signed,

    Barack

    Elephant Stone (5c2aa0)

  44. BHO wants a supplemental? Cool.

    Here it comes – oh by the way, we are including an additional $1B to be given to Texas and Arizona to use in any manner they see fit. Go ahead, veto this comprehensive solution to this crisis of your making.

    If we had a loyal opposition devoted to actual solutions, this is what would happen.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  45. “Custer died for your sins.”

    vota (bc8f6c) — 7/8/2014 @ 12:59 pm

    Yellow mattah vota dripping from a dead dog’s anus.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  46. that was gross, what you said, Mr. Colonel

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  47. JVW wrote,

    “Vota/Perry is like your crazy great uncle who flirted with communism in the 1930s…”
    ——-

    Now VotaPerry just flirts with the tattooed custodian at the Delaware Home for the Aged.

    Elephant Stone (5c2aa0)

  48. Republicans don’t know how to play the game.

    Offer Obama $8 billion for the kids.

    Fund this by cutting the IRS budget by $8 billion.

    Watch the fireworks.

    someguy (84ecc5)

  49. Then offer to restore the IRS budget cut if they produce Lois Lerner’s hard drive and “missing” emails.

    someguy (84ecc5)

  50. Gross, perhaps, feets… but he’s crazy enough to take it seriously.

    Goo goo gajoob.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  51. it’s just all so disheartening

    it makes me wannna blow all my food stamps on pot pies and shasta

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  52. I have no problem with the money, so long as it’s attached to a bill that says that all persons entering the United States illegally shall be immediately repatriated, and specifically disallows any asylum requests from persons entering from a country not their own.

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  53. By the by – how DARE BHO demand billions from those he will not allow access to assess need.

    The Audacity of Dope – and guess who are the dopes.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  54. Obama’s democratic base told him you better not deport the children! Deport conservatives they are useless like the koch brothers rush limbaugh sean hannity ect.

    vota (bc8f6c)

  55. a lawless executive demands only one answer’

    http://therightscoop.com/sarah-palin-its-time-to-impeach-president-obama/

    narciso (24b824)

  56. Some Chinaman says he could beat America in a war; some scabby wetbacks are doing it; some bastard Mau Mau in the White House is letting them. I never imagined America could look like this. But then, I never imagined Kathleen Turner would look like she now does either.

    nk (dbc370)

  57. he’s only a bastard Mau Mau cause his mama slept around a lot

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  58. Apparently, one of the activities in the Delaware Home for the Mentally Disturbed is sitting around creating new IP addresses.

    JD (8ffd8d)

  59. The president continues to lose his own party: The unaccompanied children from Central American crossing the U.S.-Mexico border illegally should be deported except in extreme circumstances, according to House Minority Whip Steny Hoyer.

    “We have an immediate humanitarian crisis that confronts this country, we also have a crisis in terms of this country cannot continue to absorb, nor should it, a limitless number of people who — particularly children who want to cross our border,” Hoyer told reporters Tuesday.

    According to the Democratic whip the influx is unsustainable in the U.S.

    “We cannot give these children sanctuary except in extraordinary circumstances. Obviously we have refugee status and protective status for people, but the whole sale coming over the border of teens to less is not sustainable in the United States,” Hoyer said.

    Dana (4dbf62)

  60. Yet surprisingly little originality in the product JD,

    narciso (24b824)

  61. Mr. Hoyer means the burgeoning infestation is not sustainable in the sense that it might could derail the fascist agenda with respect to causing the fascists to lose seats in the midterms

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  62. That’s the best kind of unsustainability.

    nk (dbc370)

  63. Let the deportations of conservatives begin! It’s about time. I wonder what color of uniform the left will choose after they get rid of the conservatives. Red bandanas and berets for the Che bunch or the olive green with upright collars with Red Star hats for the Stalinists? Who knows? Who cares? Where do we get to go, vota, you adorable, little fascist you? Internment camp or exile on an exotic isle? Gitmo? Summary execution? It’s up to you. The world is your wonderland.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  64. People are wealth. The most crowded countries in the world are Hong Kong and the Netherlands, the least crowded is Mauritania. Where would you rather live?

    If that’s true, Milhouse, then the crowded, er, uh — let’s call them socially/economically challenged (yea, that’s the phrase) — hamlets of Mexico or Brazil are really wonderful, prosperous places. And I hear the crowded socially/economically challenged hamlets of Bangladesh or India are quite marvelous and upwardly mobile too.

    If you’d like, a travel agent can book you a ticket (best of all, even one-way!) to such shiny cities upon a hill.

    Mark (cb6333)

  65. he’s right

    People *are* wealth.

    But cowardly Team R won’t make this argument.

    They act all furtive and secretive – like they were all pedophiles like Tom Donohue.

    Whatever ryan rubio and meghan’s coward daddy want to do on immigration, they wants to do it in a dark smoke-filled backroom – all dirty-like.

    It’s creepy.

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  66. happy is right. The only wealth in the world are people and their labor. All conflict is based on exploiting labor to maximize the available, valuable resources within a geographic region. Power can only accumulate through force or the ability of markets to control available resources through labor, education and the freedom of citizens to make choices.

    There is a reason that failed nations fail.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  67. Yup. All this talk about monetary standards — the real monetary standard is the minimum wage.

    nk (dbc370)

  68. Bangladesh and India are in fact growing economically at an astounding rate, but they’re starting from nothing, and are hobbled by a long history of socialist governments. Socialists will squander all a nation’s resources, including its human capital, and turn it all to muck.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  69. And no, a minimum wage is just price control, which distorts the market and prices people out of jobs.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  70. Not British rapine and neo-lithic religions?

    nk (dbc370)

  71. Minimum market wage, then. Prevailing wage. How many dollars an hour of unskilled labor will buy you. Not a better measure than how many dollars a troy ounce of 22 carat gold will buy you?

    nk (dbc370)

  72. The only wealth in the world are people and their labor.

    And the nature of that wealth won’t be all that quantifiable or too tangible if it involves far too many people who don’t have the greatest sense of and respect for a stable, successful, goal-oriented society.

    Mark (cb6333)

  73. No, nk, the British were the best thing that happened to the subcontinent. It was socialism that wrecked it all.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  74. What did the dem congressmen say when Bush and the republicans asked for $3.7 billion to fund the completion of the 2006 Build the Fence Act? I think the answer should be the same.

    LASue (ba7182)

  75. Clarification- the dems simply let Duncan Hunter’s and later, Jim DeMint’s bills to finish the border fence die in committee. But they criticized it as costing too much.

    Looks cheap now, doesn’t it?

    LASue (ba7182)

  76. These foreign kids –whatever their ages– belong AT HOME. With their parents/ siblings/ cousins/ extended families. HOME – where they speak and understand the language. Where they know the customs and attitudes –”how things are done” and “what to expect”– because it’s familiar, second nature, because it’s “home”. They BELONG there. They BELONG back home.

    Don’t stick them in warehouses all across the country. That’s just plain cruel.

    Send. Them. HOME.

    It’s the RIGHT thing to do.

    A_Nonny_Mouse (81ae39)

  77. If they’re raised in America, they’re no more likely than native-born children to become socialists.

    If they attend the same liberal-infested indoctrination centers that masquerade as schools, there’s a good chance they will be.

    Blacque Jacques Shellacque (51809b)

  78. “If they’re raised in America, they’re no more likely than native-born children to become socialists.”

    Blacque Jacques Shellacque (51809b) — 7/9/2014 @ 12:58 am

    If they attend the same liberal-infested indoctrination centers that masquerade as schools, there’s a good chance they will be.

    But more likely than the native-born children attending the same schools?

    Not that anyone is teaching socialism, even if they teach warped history of the United States. The indoctrination that really goes on is environmentalism, which is extremely widespread.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  79. 71. Milhouse (b95258) — 7/8/2014 @ 9:20 pm

    And no, a minimum wage is just price control, which distorts the market and prices people out of jobs.

    It tends to eliminate jobs with high turnover, and the elimination of such jobs is an extremely serious problem.

    Sammy Finkelman (cd2969)

  80. Throw a few dozen Brinks trucks at any problem and it goes away. What a wonderful country we live in!

    Amphipolis (d3e04f)


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