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Open Thread — Discuss Anything But the Oscars

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:24 pm

I hate the Oscars. Because I hate Hollywood. Talk about something else.

P.S. If you really want to talk about the Oscars, go ahead. I’m mostly just kidding. But not about hating the Oscars. I do.

I always ignore them and they are always running in the background in the other room. What am I doing tonight instead? Laundry, and a mass operation with the Sous Vide Supreme, the Sous Vide Supreme vacuum sealer, and a ton of meat from CostCo.

I spent the past 24 hours brining over a dozen super-thick pork chops and about 6 salmon fillets (carved up from a giant $25 slab of salmon). I have been removing them from the brine, putting salt and pepper and other seasoning on them, and sealing them in vacuum bags. Already did all 6 salmon fillets and 4 of the pork chops. I also made some Kräuterbutter with unsalted butter, dill, parsley, chives, lemon juice (fresh squeezed), pressed garlic, salt and pepper. I have 4 salmon fillets in the water bath, and plan to cook all 6 tonight. Three are marinating in the bag with the Kräuterbutter and three will be heated with only basic spices (salt, pepper, and garlic powder). I will quick chill 5 of them and freeze at least 3, and plan to eat one of the thick ones with the Kräuterbutter. Mmmm.

Mrs. P. said to me yesterday: “I don’t think you need to buy meat for one person at CostCo.” I beg to differ, and storing up about a month’s worth of vacuum-sealed food is the proof of the pudding. I’d talk more about it, but I have to get one of the thinner filets out of the machine presently.

I’ll let you know how my meal tonight is. By the way, I noticed that two of you got the Sous Vide Supreme from Amazon. Good choice: the bargain under-$400 deal is now back up to $499. Anyone care to share how it’s going?

What are you guys up to?

91 Responses to “Open Thread — Discuss Anything But the Oscars”

  1. OK, gotta prepare my ice water for the quick chill of the first fillet.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  2. Man, this is fun.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  3. The temperature of my oyster this moment is -6 degrees F.

    Last year we achieved an all-time record late ice out on many of our lakes in MN, especially up North.

    That was just weather. When are we allowed to start talking Climate, as in Naturally Occurring Global Cooling?

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  4. Everything is on point, except the Oscars. Unless you really want to talk about the Oscars. Then it’s also on point.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  5. I don’t mean to rain on your parade Rico, but I just got home from work and had Spam on Brownberry Classic Whole Wheat with a large hunk of Medium Cheddar. And lots of very cold water.

    Wish I’d been wiser and more industrious in my yout.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  6. My mother gave me this awesome book for Christmas called “Vintage Spirits and Forgotten Cocktails” (which does not appear to be available via Amazon). It has all these mind-bending cocktail recipes from the 1920s and 30s with names like the Alamagoozlum Cocktail, the Beebo Cocktail, the Communist (really!), and the Monkey Gland. The only trouble is that it is pretty hard finding all of the proper ingredients, so over the past couple of months I have ended up acquiring the following spirits: Pama Liqueur, Dry Curacao, Genever Gin, Applejack, Kirschwasser, Dubonnet Rouge, Fernet-Branca, Parafait Amour, and Creme Yvette. I think I am going to be having a massive cocktail party sometime soon.

    JVW (709bc7)

  7. I hear you, gary, but the CostCo meat and fish is pretty danged inexpensive — although the machinery admittedly isn’t.

    Each of these salmon filets is a super-delicious meal for about $4.

    FWIW, cold water is about all I drink nowadays. And I love a hunk of cheddar. Not as big a fan of spam as I was in my own yout. But it’s quite the rage in Hawaii and the Pacific.

    Patterico (9c670f)


    Here is my comment.

    I do not find it as problematic to apply anti-discrimination laws towards the sale of off-the-shelf goods. A roll of film is still the same whether used by gay or straight, Jehovah’s Witness or Muslim.

    What I find problematic is the way some of these laws are written or interpreted effectively requiring the sale of a particular type of service. Refusing to photograph a same-sex wedding (a type of service) is equated to discrimination against homosexuals, even if the same photographer would photograph a homosexual’s birthday party. Refusing to photograph a Kingdom Hall meeting (a type of service) is equated to discrimination against Jehovah’s Witnesses, even if that same photographer would photograph a Jehovah’s Witness’s retirement party.

    Michael Ejercito (906585)

  9. Two of the pork chops are getting Thai seasoning in addition to the normal salt and pepper.

    Two are getting “Santa Barbara Seasoning” (the original blend) with turbinado sugar in addition to the usual black pepper, paprika, garlic powder, kosher salt, etc.

    Not totally in keeping with my usual avoidance of sugar. But hey, live a little.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  10. the oscars are boring let’s talk about brining meat

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  11. Some wisdom from William A. Levinson

    Letter to the editor | No mercy for Myers

    February 25, 2014

    In a letter to, Joel Myers writes, “Imagine volunteering to serve your alma mater, serving to the best of your ability, loyally and faithfully and always giving of your time and treasure — only to be attacked without warning in a public ad” (from Penn Staters for Responsible Stewardship).

    He should have thought about this concept before he helped destroy coach Joe Paterno’s life and reputation without warning on Nov. 9, 2011.

    Myers had, unlike Paterno, a chance to tell his side of the story. His side is that the board was under “extreme duress” in 2011, which reinforces Keith Eckel’s previous admission that the trustees rushed to judgment without possession of the relevant facts.

    Cowardice is willful failure to defend something to which one owes a duty of protection because of duress or pressure.

    Cowardice is the opposite of what Graham Spanier displayed when he stood behind Tim Curley, Gary Schultz and Penn State’s reputation in 2011.

    Myers and his fellow trustees knifed Spanier in the back at the very moment Penn State needed him most, opened the gates to Penn State’s enemies and hoped those enemies would be merciful. They were not.

    Myers claims, accurately, that he denounced the NCAA sanctions, but then he fell into line with the board’s powerbrokers after they appointed him to the executive committee, thus putting his own interests above those of the university.

    He sowed the wind, so now he must reap the whirlwind in the coming election.

    William A. Levinson, Wilkes-Barre

    Michael Ejercito (906585)

  12. the oscars are boring let’s talk about brining meat

    You don’t like the topic, pick another. Frankly? Brining meat is five times more interesting to me than watching a bunch of vapid Hollywood morons. YMMV.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  13. wedding pictures in general are an expensive extravagance in our sad declining viciously obamaraped little country

    do you know how many monies you have in 30 years if you invest your wedding picture monies in an investment what returns even a paltry 4.6% per year?

    hell if I know ask David Ramsey

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  14. i was just funning Mr. P I never watch the oscars

    i do occasionally brine meat though

    ok this is me over-sharing again

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  15. @JVW

    “I think I am going to be having a massive cocktail party sometime soon.”

    …not to mention a hangover that can be measured on the Mercalli scale.

    I don’t know why you couldn’t find it on Amazon. I found it through Bookfinder, which got me the ISBN (1592539378), and that comes up on Amazon just fine. I imagine that a lot of the more exotic mixes from the 20’s and 30’s were desperate attempts to mask the taste of raw alcohol, or worse. The history of that Era and the “Great Experiment” that it is remembered for, is an interesting one. Mencken touches on it in a lot of his writing. Other good sources are ONLY YESTERDAY and LAST CALL.

    C. S. P. Schofield (e8b801)


    California Seeks to Invalidate 9th Circuit Win for Conceal-Carry Guns Rights

    Damon Root|Feb. 28, 2014 11:51 am

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    On February 13 the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit invalidated a San Diego County, California requirement which allowed for the issuance of conceal-carry gun permits, but only when the gun owner had “good cause” to carry a concealed weapon. And according to county officials, “one’s personal safety is not considered good cause.” That restriction, the 9th Circuit ruled, eliminated “the only way that the typical responsible, law-abiding citizen can carry a weapon in public for the lawful purpose of self-defense,” and therefore amounted to an unconstitutional infringement on the Second Amendment.

    In a petition filed yesterday, California Attorney General Kamala Harris has urged the 9th Circuit to wipe that gun rights ruling off the books. “This case adopts a theory of the Second Amendment with sweeping implications for the constitutional permissibility of hitherto routine state and local regulation of the public carrying of dangerous weapons,” the California petition argues, and it also “inappropriately discounts legislative policy judgments to which it should defer.”

    Harris is seeking what’s known as en banc review, meaning the state of California has requested that a full panel of 9th Circuit judges reconsider the case (this month’s ruling was by a 3-judge panel). Should the 9th Circuit refuse to review en banc, the state’s next move would be a petition asking the U.S. Supreme Court to step in and overturn the ruling.

    Here is my comment:

    “Local law enforcement must be able to use their discretion to determine who can carry a concealed weapon,” Harris said in a statement announcing the court filing.

    (emphasis added)

    What could go wrong with that?

    Did anything go wrong when local law enforcement used their discretion to determine whether to engage in racial profiling?

    Michael Ejercito (906585)

  17. All you peoples with i-phones–Apple’s Tim Cook doesn’t like climate change deniers and doesn’t want their money.

    Apple chief executive Tim Cook has shocked some in the US with an impassioned attack on the single-minded pursuit of profit – and a direct appeal to climate-change deniers not to buy shares in his firm.

    elissa (d3e2a4)

  18. i was just funning Mr. P I never watch the oscars

    i do occasionally brine meat though

    ok this is me over-sharing again

    Clearly I don’t think so.

    My brine had a lot of kosher salt and brown sugar. I put in some garlic and fennel too. Just because.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  19. we all have to believe the same things to use the same brand of phone

    otherwise it’s all just a farce

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  20. kosher salt and brown sugar!

    i heart brown sugar a lot

    speaking of food talk I got some gift jars of froufrou stuff at work

    like honeyed balsamic cherries or what have you

    one of them features “Hawaiian sea salt” as an ingredient

    I love how silly that is

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  21. fennel grows wild in California

    i learned this once when i was standing in a California ditch munching thoughtfully on fennel after my wine tour bus broke down

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  22. Patterico —

    You might need to have your Amazon widget checked. Regarding my comment at number 7 above, I entered in both the title of the book and the author’s name separately into the search field and nothing came up. However, as C. S. P. Schofield tells us in comment 16, it is easily found via a regular amazon search. I’m guessing your widget isn’t working properly.

    JVW (709bc7)

  23. THat salt’s pink. I got some for Christmas.

    elissa (d3e2a4)

  24. oh. I thought that was the himalayan kind what was pink

    so much salt so little time

    thank god some people have cable and can get ahead of this sort of thing

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  25. Made chicken tacos and watched True Detective… great writing, acting, excellent series.

    Colonel Haiku (a84474)

  26. Fennel grows wild in Greece, too. The Greek name for it is marathon. Yup, the same as the one you run. From the historic battle at Fennel Field.

    And since I’m talking of war and running, do you have a recipe for chicken Kiev in honor of our President, Patterico?

    nk (dbc370)

  27. language is daunting in its complexity

    not unlike meat

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  28. I have the Himalayan. It’s pink. My kosher salt is white, though.

    This salmon. How does one scream “this is the most delicious salmon I ever tasted!” in a blog comment?

    Patterico (9c670f)


    happyfeet (8ce051)

  30. oops

    *SAMMINS* EFF YEAH i mean

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  31. That’s it.

    The melted Kräuterbutter. The 30-second sear on the stove. Beautifully done all the way through. I am in heaven here.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  32. I only buy “GMO free” Himalayan salt.

    SPQR (768505)

  33. Hahahahaha. What a scam that is, SPQR.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  34. Yeah, GMO-free salt is the best.

    Former Conservative (754c76)

  35. Um…watching Oscars…because, shallow and vapid though it be, gorgeous gowns! I’ll take my leave now…

    Dana (9a8f57)

  36. Patterico, I can’t figure out which is more infuriating….that they have the gall to so label it or that people are stupid enough to fall for it.

    SPQR (768505)

  37. Oh my goodness I am stuffed after eating that salmon. It’s weird because I think it’s the first thing I ate since maybe 10:30 am. Man oh man was that good.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  38. Should gay hairstylist Antonio Darden be forced by the government to either cut anti-same-sex-marriage governor Susana Martinez’s hair or shut down his business and never cut hair for money again?

    As a matter of public policy, no.

    But that is not the law in New mexico….

    Michael Ejercito (906585)

  39. All the chops are vacuum sealed. Cooking up those last two salmon fillets. Quick chilling two of them; they come out in six minutes. I know you want the blow by blow. Why watch Penelope Cruz when you can read about my preparation of leftovers?

    Patterico (9c670f)


    DiversityInc, a “diversity management” firm — whatever that is — goes one step further, suggesting, semiliterately, that

    the need for voter IDs in the United States is baseless, has no merit and is extremely cruel in its intent. Just because people do not live their lives like you does not mean that they are less human, less deserving of the rights of all citizens, and without need for each of us to stand firm for all of us to fully participate in the processes that shape this nation.

    Fair enough. In which case, perhaps we ought also to take a look at New York City’s gun-permitting process, which not only requires individuals who wish to buy a firearm to go through the apparently devastating process of obtaining an acceptable ID but also to provide separately a proof of residence, a proof of citizenship or permanent residency, and a Social Security card; to pay $431.50 plus the cost of two color photographs; to wait an average of eight months for the application to be processed, and then attend a lengthy in-person interview; and, if the applicant has not lived in the United States for seven years (and many immigrants can become citizens after just three years, remember), to provide a certificate of good conduct from their foreign government. Pray, how does that fit into the mix?

    Michael Ejercito (906585)

  41. My favorite wife’s iInternetBrowsingDevice has a fingerprint reader that she uses to lock it and unlock it. For more than thirty years now, you can give an Illinois cop your name, date of birth and Social Security number, and his car computer will tell him if you have a valid driver’s license. Technology has a way of making issues obsolete, and paper ID is already one for people who do not have an agenda.

    nk (dbc370)

  42. Your pink “Himalayan” salt isn’t Himalayan. It is mined in Pakistan, hundreds of miles from the Himalayas.

    But apparently they found out long ago that they can charge more for “Himalayan” salt than for “Pakistani” salt.

    Estragon (ada867)

  43. I used to watch the Oscars in the late ’60s and early ’70s, when still a public school student.

    Back then we only had three main networks – there wasn’t much nighttime PBS programming yet, it was still mainly “educational TV” – and the night of the Oscars, the competing networks just surrendered and ran reruns.

    Because of this more or less captive audience, the Oscars were a main topic of discussion the next day at schools and workplaces.

    Haven’t watched them since, although I have been trapped in households that did a couple of times – but not for long!

    Estragon (ada867)

  44. president food stamp went to pakistan a lot when he was little and smoked lots of weed with pakistanis here at home in america, some of whom he cohabitated with – like how Jack and Chrissy and Janet did – except with pothead pakistanis involved

    and probably gobs of illicit phony salt involved too

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  45. Pooter’s Black Sea port has a not insignificant price.

    The definition of grim is no potatoes or cabbage on the shelves.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  46. Some of these voter ID stories can get pretty funny. For example, will Senator Pat Roberts of Kansas be properly registered to vote for himself in his re-election? His real residence is in Virginia.

    nk (dbc370)

  47. Salmon and Angus are favorites of ours for grilling on the deck.

    We have to wait a bit. There’s just a narrow path to the Droll Yankee feeder.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  48. Why am I the one to remember that March 2 (almost over) is Texas Independence Day?

    nk (dbc370)

  49. Record or no, Chakra owes us an apology.

    The good news is everyone nationwide gets a taste of their normal winter weather in April.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  50. Your pink “Himalayan” salt isn’t Himalayan. It is mined in Pakistan, hundreds of miles from the Himalayas.

    But apparently they found out long ago that they can charge more for “Himalayan” salt than for “Pakistani” salt.

    Blame Mrs. P. She got it. No idea what she paid. Tastes like salt to me. But it’s pretty, whether it comes from Pakistan or the top of Mt. Everest.

    Patterico (9c670f)

  51. I’ve been experimenting with a covered ceramic bread pan called a cloche. The one I’m using is similar to the SuperStone /Covered Baker by Sassafras, which is offered by Amazon. The crust on my last loaf was the best I’ve ever produced. There’s another loaf in the oven as I write this.

    Have you tried the beef “flap meat” they sell at Costco? It’s great on my Weber.

    ThOR (130453)

  52. We all save a fortune next week.

    DC to get a foot of snow Monday.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  53. We could all learn a lot from the weather. No matter how much people complain, criticize, praise, admire, worry about, or take for granted, it doesn’t give a hoot. It remains its own person and just goes on doing its own thing.

    nk (dbc370)

  54. Here we go, more than an 80 degree difference in TX, tip to tip.

    IA is the coldest state in the Union, at present.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  55. Supposedly this pocket of air came from Baffin Island.

    No idea what took its place or what made room for it over our heads.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  56. Gosh, and we were making plans to winter in Newcastle in a few years.

    From what we’ve heard heating was already barely tolerable, if that.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  57. And in another story on my obsession, the Southern Hemisphere Sea Ice reached its minimum of the season and has begun to grow again.

    Its the 2nd highest minimum recorded. Considering we were already aware that Northern Polar Ice Extent is 50% greater than last year, one wonders where all the heat is hiding.

    Last year was something like eighth warmest all time, was it not?

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  58. Finally, good news for salmon lovers like Rico.

    When the PDO flipped into its positive phase in 1977 warm water intruded on the salmons feeding grounds, where they mature in years 2 and three.

    As the years passed their stocks steadily declined. Until 2010 when the PDO flipped back to its negative phase.

    This should mean increasing stocks of Pacific salmon for about 30 years.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  59. Somehow the Himalayan salt caused this thought to pop up in my mind. It’s serious, but may be of benefit to some here.

    “Resistant starch” is the starch that we don’t digest, but our gut bacteria does. It’s cheap as hell. Seems to be very useful for blood sugar control and diabetes. Feeds the good bacteria more than the bad (something to do with pH). $5 of a good brand of it would be enough to figure out if it’s going to help or not. It can even be used on a low-carb diet since it’s digested mostly by your bacteria, not you.

    If you want to improve blood sugar/waistline/energy, have a look. But it isn’t pretty, like pink salt.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  60. JVW- That there is quite an array of beverages you have assembled…. However the continued availability of Jack Daniels make it appear to be serious overkill…

    Not in Mr. P’s league, tonight was fish fillets (from Costco, however) and sweet potato fries (Trader Joe’s), and a CD of Foyle’s War… A nice capper for a day of ditch clearing, tractor battery jumping and outside lamp repairs…

    gramps, the original (b18bfc)

  61. Right, make us younger folks look like lazy arses.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  62. lol I’m sure it’s true by comparison.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  63. I had been wondering how you liked your food machine,Patterico.
    Great to hear you are loving it. Prepared any swordfish or sea scallops?
    I like Merlot salt.

    mg (31009b)

  64. (visions of members of the silver-follicled generation jumping (with zimmers) over tractor batteries) – it could have been a regular feature on Rowan and Martin’s Laugh-In …

    Alastor (2e7f9f)

  65. I went downstairs, and my wife and older daughter were watching the red carpet show, and it flashed to the four women who were doing the commentary, and my first reaction was, concerning the woman on the far right, “Someone get that girl a sandwich!”

    The appalled Dana (3e4784)

  66. For all of you men who casually blew off my helpful comment @24 about Hawaiian sea salt being pink (in direct response to feet’s comment @21) and then went off blabbering about white kosher salt and pink Himalayan salt and Pakistan salt mines– please use teh google and enter “hawaiian pink sea salt”. Thank you. I realize it is an open thread but I will not be ignored. And I do know my salts. Amazon even sells one called Pink Passion From Molokai in the good old U.S.of A. You can get it in either coarse or fine.

    elissa (206b02)

  67. In case you’re interested, the best salt in the whole wide world is Casina Rossa Truffle salt from Italy. It elevates every food you put it on or in. It is not pink.

    elissa (206b02)

  68. They really should just all get into a big circle and . . well, you know.

    It would probably get more viewers and be much more interesting to watch. (and they would feel right at home.) 😛

    Really though 3-4 hours to verbally/emotionally stroke each other (and sometimes get in a good stab or two) as if the Oscars are important to world peace or the climate or something.

    Meanwhile the DC Prosecutor is trying a guy for having a shotgun shell while David Gregory got a pass waving around a high cap magazine.

    Would you have believed a story like that 20 years ago?

    jakee308 (e940d5)

  69. It was in the mid seventies ystdy. Tonight the overnight low will be 9 degrees if we are lucky.

    Can’t do laundry, I plugged up the dryaer vent to keep cold air seeping in.

    I will be on pipe patrol, running drips, little propane heaters and a heat lamp in the crawl space.

    There’s a crock pot with a chuck roast in it and that’s as close to sous vide as I’ve ever come.

    SarahW (267b14)

  70. I will probably blow the rest of the day watching Swedish TV and wishing for Gothenburgs balmy 40 degree overnight low.

    SarahW (267b14)

  71. It started to snow about 5:30 last night, but then wasn’t snowing at about 6:00 to 6:30.

    It snowed a little during the night. We didn’t have 6 to 12 inches of snow, we didn’t have 4 inches, we didn’t have 3 inches – iut was just enough snow to say theer had been a snowstorm, and to put all the things that happen after a snowstorm into place.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  72. Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 3/2/2014 @ 4:11 pm @164 in the Our Society’s (Taxpayer-Funded) Total Disintegration Confirmed…thread:

    MD Sammy,

    MD> Maybe you should ask our advice about the books you read. Really, LJ was not worth your time.

    I think this is a pretty good book. I first read it about two years ago. I took it from a side of a stand where a television that no longer works it.

    It was not written by the people LJ was involved with in 2009 – New Jersey lawyer Rex Butler, and his associate, Tank (formerly Sherm,an, he changed his name)

    There’s at least a few things he refused to do.

    mD> Hear ya go, two books I’m reading and finding it difficult to wade through:

    The books are probably too hard, and attempty to be comprehensive – and probably have parts that actually don’t mae sense.

    >> Where the Conflict Really Lies: Science, Religion, and Naturalism; Plantinga, Oxford Press

    >> Mind and Cosmos: Why the Materialist Neo-Darwinian Conception of Nature Is Almost Certainly False; Nagel (BTW, Nagel in the worst way does not like the concept of God, he doesn’t know what to replace the materialist neo-darwinian world view with, but he is about as convinced as one can be that it is inadequate to describe reality)

    I’ll see what Amazon has to say about them.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  73. I’ll see what Amazon has to say about them.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 3/3/2014 @ 8:01 am

    The above is really all you need to know.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  74. Let me fix that.

    …all you really need to know


    felipe (b5e0f4)

  75. I don’t care how many of these you think you’ve seen, you’ve GOT to watch the video at the bottom of this article.

    So this 25 year old black woman, a former intern for a district attorney’s office and a criminal justice student, is taking some pictures and video of a police speed trap and posting on Facebook how she admires their work.

    Naturally, she’s then brutalized by the stupid and evil cops she admired.

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

  76. 78. You are right, that totally bites.

    So does this.

    Democrats are evil, Republicans are evil too, but mostly worthless.

    Rot in hell the both of you.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  77. 79. Cont. Same issue.

    But our hands are tied. That’s why we haven’t moved for year’s now and starved to death last Summer.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  78. Don’t recognize 9 and 8 but the rest are standouts.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  79. Did my taxes.

    AMartel (9f9b49)

  80. Evidently these youngsters don’t qualify for disability.

    Take Ray Selent, a 30-year-old former retail clerk in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. He was unemployed in 2012 when he enrolled as a part-time student at Broward County’s community college. That allowed him to borrow thousands of dollars to pay rent to his mother, cover his cellphone bill and catch the occasional movie… Tommie Matherne, a 32-year-old married father of five in Billings, Mont., has been going to school since 2010, when he realized the $10 an hour he was making as a mall security guard wasn’t covering his family’s expenses. He uses roughly $2,000 in student loans each year to stock his fridge and catch up on bills. “We’ve been taking whatever we can for student loans every year, taking whatever we have left over and using it to stock up the freezer just so we have a couple extra months where we don’t have to worry about food,”… Mr. Selent, of Fort Lauderdale, knows he is getting himself deeper in a hole but prefers that to the alternative of making minimum wage. In his 20s, he earned a bachelor’s degree in communications from a local for-profit school but couldn’t find a job…. He is now taking courses for a degree in theater so he can become an actor.

    I say try again. There’s got to be something for mental incapacity.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  81. We can see that you have your heart set on this career, Son, and in that vein your Mother and I would like you to consider something–a name change.

    Wrecking Ball, perhaps?

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  82. Oh, of course, the link.

    Hon, its time, call the home.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  83. I know the Oscars are semi-off-limits on this thread, but one of the stories of this year’s Oscar ceremony was Matthew McConaughey thanking God during his Oscar acceptance speech. The reception in Hollywood was lukewarm but if McConaughey ever decides to run for political office in Texas, he helped his chances tremendously. In addition, it doesn’t hurt that he has family all over the state.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  84. USA advances in World Cup skunking Mexico 2 nil.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  85. For the interested, very accessible science of AGW criticism.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  86. After missing last month by 48K ADP misses by 16K today on lowered expectations.

    Don’t worry, its just weather.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  87. re: naive presidents.

    Hoover might have been more naive in the field of foreign policy than Obama – he also shut down the black chamber in 1931.

    Coolidge also might be nominated as more naive than Obama – the Kellogg Briand pact was negotiated when he was president , and he let Billy Mitchell be persecuted by the Navy after he said there might be a war with Japan.

    FDR had his very naive moments.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  88. Doh!

    Former Conservative (6e026c)

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