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10/4/2012

Mitt Romney Wins Debate

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:41 am



You expect a candidate’s partisans to put the best spin on his performance — but don’t take Republicans’ word for it. Look at what the Democrats are saying.

James Carville says Romney “came in with a chainsaw”:

Al Gore hilariously tried to blame Obama’s poor performance on the altitude:

Obama arrived in Denver at 2pm today. Just a few hours before the debate started. Romney did his debate prep in Denver. When you go to 5000 feet and you only have a few hours to adjust, I don’t know . . .

Hahahahahahahaha. (H/t Icy.)

Finally, we have the Democrats at the L.A. Times, who tried their best to spin it, but ultimately couldn’t:

See that? Romney worked on his “empathy problem.” He’s shifting positions again, even if we acknowledge he performed well. Also: so what if he won? So did John Kerry! Nyah nyah nyah! And hey! Look at this goofy picture of Romney!!!

And last night, one of their instant reactions was: “Romney loves Big Bird, will kill funding for him anyway.”

If that’s the best they can do, Romney won. Period.

154 Responses to “Mitt Romney Wins Debate”

  1. Obama was the empty chair that Eastwood brought on stage.

    But Romney didn’t win because Obama was bad; Romney won because Romney was good. He got to the point fast, which made him able to make several points each round — as well as rebut whatever Obama (slowly and methodically) said.

    Kman (5576bf)

  2. There they were, with their “Dewey beats Truman” evaluations of the debate pre-written all qued up. Just dying to use them. And if only had been close, they would have.

    Barack “Come-back kid” Obama digs deep, pulls out the clutch win.

    Mix and match. Somewhere in there is the headline they were aching to use.

    If it were only close, they could have lied about it.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  3. America saw the difference between our first Affirmative Action President and the alternative.

    And it encapsulates why many minorities don’t want affirmative action.

    Rodney King's Spirit (9ce6d4)

  4. It’s mind boggling to think that Al Gore was once one seat away from the presidency.

    Dana (292dcf)

  5. #4 What does that say about Joe.

    Rodney King's Spirit (9ce6d4)

  6. Al Gore Blames Obama’s Debate Performance On Climate Change

    Sometimes, The Onion just can’t compete with reality.

    CrustyB (69f730)

  7. 6. Sometimes, The Onion just can’t compete with reality.

    Comment by CrustyB — 10/4/2012 @ 8:13 am

    These days it usually can’t.

    Vote for Obama if you want prosperity and wealth creation for the middle class

    See what I mean?

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  8. For the most part I thought Romney did what he needed to do, which was just present the facts in an forceful, understandable way.

    I thought he should have mentioned that household income has fallen sharply and is continuing to fall. He has to demolish this narrative they effectively promoted at the DNC that things are improving. He did mention some things like slowing growth but he needs to hit harder on that.

    Gerald A (f26857)

  9. Actually, as usual Gore is not up on the most current research. At least as far as athletes are concerned, there is a growing opinion that you are best off staying at low altitude as long as possible, then only traveling to the high altitude competition at the last possible moment.

    JVW (f5695c)

  10. If Obama loses this reelection it will be because of last night’s poor performance. Romney showed himself the superior debater and assailed the president even on his own territory. I think I will sleep well at night if Romney wins this election. America needs men like him now.

    The Emperor (03864d)

  11. If Obama loses this reelection it will be because of last night’s poor performance.

    It will be because of his disastrous performance the last 4 years.

    JD (ab8eee)

  12. President Obama had a rubber-stamp Congress for two years and barely managed to get them to pass the Democrat Holy Grail of healthcare.

    Not exactly LBJ. Why would we expect him to succeed at anything difficult?

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  13. As someone else pointed out yesterday, it is instructive to remember that Biden was brought on in 2008 to give the Obama ticket some gravitas.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  14. Romney won last nights debate because of his good performance and Obama’s poor performance over the last four years. It’s tough to put on a good show in a debate when you have a crappy record to defend. There is a reason the campaign and its surrogates in the media have tried to deflect attention away from Obama’s performance in office to attacks on Romney’s character, his gaffes, Ann’s horse, Romney’s videos, haircuts, Bain, Romney’s taxes, Romney’s jumping the gun on statements about the Middle East. It’s all to avoid talking about Obama’s record. There was no filter or distraction last night, although Obama kept trying to move to soft areas such as education where the candidates could mostly focus on platitudes and ideas rather than metrics.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  15. Meanwhile, new jobless claims rise again.

    The number of Americans seeking unemployment benefits rose to a seasonally adjusted 367,000, a level consistent with only modest hiring.

    Weekly applications increased last week by 4,000 from the previous week’s level of 363,000, the Labor Department said Thursday. The previous week was revised higher from an initial reading of 359,000. The four-week average, a less volatile measure, was unchanged at 375,000.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  16. Is this the beginning of the end for the One?

    The Emperor (170506)

  17. Gore Blames Obama’s Debate Performance On Climate Change

    — My favorite part is where Gore prefaces his remarks with “I’m going to say something controversial.” Memo to VP Gore: stupid does NOT equal “controversial”.

    Icy (537b0c)

  18. Does ObamaCare cover getting your ass kicked in a debate ?

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  19. The next debate should be Clinton versus Romney. Is that possible?

    The Emperor (170506)

  20. Lying for the Lord.

    Anyone can win at a game if they cheat and the other side still insists (stupidly, IMO) in playing by the rules.

    Republicans/Romney/Ryan in a nutshell.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  21. P. Tillman,

    Check with your health insurer to see if they cover people who drink too much Kool-Aid.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  22. Flail much, P. Tillman?

    Icy (537b0c)

  23. 19.The next debate should be Clinton versus Romney. Is that possible?

    Comment by The Emperor — 10/4/2012 @ 9:37 am

    Let’s be honest; if an Obama really wants to do well in a debate with Mitt Romney she better be named Malia, Sasha, or Michelle.

    Although I do think that the image of Barack Obama lying low so that Hillary! can act as his lightning rod is an apt metaphor for our foreign policy to date.

    That was the Clinton you were talking about, right?

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  24. Steve57, was talking about Bill. He helped him out during the convention. Wondering if the law allows him to take the next debate for Obama. I kid…

    The Emperor (170506)

  25. Comment by P. Tillman — 10/4/2012 @ 9:52 am

    Have you guys ever watched a sporting event where one team was alleged to be demonstrably superior to it’s opponent, yet the supposedly inferior team ends up trouncing the favorite? You ever been with a fan of the favorite team who despite having just watched them under-perform badly and lose to a team who played with more discipline, passion, and desire, turns to you after the game ends and says something like, “the referees screwed us out of that one”? That, in a nutshell, is Tillman.

    JVW (f5695c)

  26. P. Tillman’s talking point, straight from the President’s lips in a just-completed speech, is that Romney won because he lied.

    And by that unassailable piece of logic, Obama lost because he didn’t lie enough.

    Of course, after the fact-check results come in a different excuse will magically present itself.

    Icy (537b0c)

  27. Elephant Stone – Do you mean like this?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  28. 24. Steve57, was talking about Bill. He helped him out during the convention. Wondering if the law allows him to take the next debate for Obama. I kid…

    Comment by The Emperor — 10/4/2012 @ 10:05 am

    Just saying. The list of Clintons who can man-up better than President Kardashian isn’t long, but it includes not just Hillary! but Chelsea.

    Bo the Portuguese Water Dog would no doubt prove to be the more forceful advocate for America.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  29. Bill Clinton’s Brother Accused of Hiring Women to Beat Each Other Up

    THIS Clinton would be a better President. Think of all the money we could save if instead of holding an election and donating to political campaigns we just saved up bail money for Roger.

    And instead of weekly fireside chats we’d get Wednesday night lingerie league roller derby.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  30. ____________________________________________

    Republicans/Romney/Ryan in a nutshell.

    And Neal Rauhauser is a Democrat/liberal in a nutshell.

    I want to see [Patterico] fired from his Deputy District Attorney job, barred from practicing any sort of law, sued to the point of bankruptcy, or criminally charged. Better yet, all five of these would not be sufficient for this tiresome little punk. The motivation, briefly, is that he used to spend his time vigorously defending that little creep James O’Keefe, and his behavior of late seems to indicate he had a hand in the stalking and smearing of Congressman Weiner.

    ^ That ain’t no conservative talking. That’s a disgusting liberal who’s bothered by a “little creep” that has merely cast a spotlight on the dishonest, corrupt aspects of groups like ACORN, and, in turn, who’s offended that a leftwing politician, guilty of weirdness that forced his hand and made him leave office, was simply exposed (pardon the double entendre) for what he really is.

    The worst thing about such liberals is they undoubtedly think they’re such compassionate, heartfelt, generous, humane, caring, populist souls. That they’re “progressives” fighting the good fight, fighting against the flip side of the traits they believe they’re imbued with. But, in reality, the traits they associate with their philosophical opposites are really what they themselves are all about.

    Mark (6d5e0d)

  31. @Steve.
    Obama should have just brought the empty chair. It would have been more effective.

    The Emperor (170506)

  32. Lying for the Lord.
    Anyone can win at a game if they cheat and the other side still insists (stupidly, IMO) in playing by the rules.
    Republicans/Romney/Ryan in a nutshell.

    Comment by P. Tillman — 10/4/2012 @ 9:52 am

    P. Tillman’s talking point, straight from the President’s lips in a just-completed speech, is that Romney won because he lied.
    And by that unassailable piece of logic, Obama lost because he didn’t lie enough.
    Of course, after the fact-check results come in a different excuse will magically present itself.

    Comment by Icy — 10/4/2012 @ 10:07 am

    I just heard an audio clip of the one with today’s spin. In one way I guess it is brilliant because it is a worthwhile attempt to make him look good when there is no good reason for him to look good.

    One specific claim the one made today was that “Romney needs to get a new accountant if he doesn’t know about tax breaks for taking jobs overseas”, followed by, “But it looks like he’s been doing pretty well with the accountant he has, so he must just be lying.” [Note, not exact quotes, but I think a fair simulation].

    No specific references to back up this claim, just repeating it a couple of times.

    The Emperor has no clothes, when will it become obvious? Will the one ever catch on and become embarrassed like in the fairytale, or will he end up like Capt. Queeg on the witness stand?

    Lest anyone have any doubt, Tillman has demonstrated a complete inability to make a rational point, whether this is because of dishonesty or inability to think for him/her self I do not know, but it matters not in the deserved treatment of comments. This assessment is deemed final until new information is presented showing otherwise.

    The book The Last Battle by Lewis, the last in the Narnia series, is a very good narrative that demonstrates the power and potential effectiveness of such covert dishonesty when it is allowed to control the narrative.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  33. The AARP scolds Obama this morning,

    “While we respect the rights of each campaign to make its case to voters, AARP has never consented to the use of its name by any candidate or political campaign,” the group posted in a statement. “AARP is a nonpartisan organization and we do not endorse political candidates nor coordinate with any candidate or political party.”

    While it’s good to see them attempting a neutrality with regard to the candidates, this makes it a bit suspect (although still good to see),

    “AARP controls 34 percent of the market for such plans. According to a 2011 House Ways and Means Committee report, AARP stands to make between $55 million and $166 million from Obamacare in 2014 alone.”

    Dana (292dcf)

  34. I must say Obama has one saving grace going for him if he decided to stop doubling down on dishonesty-

    anyone looking at the picture of him and his wife after the event knows that he did not go home with a supportive spouse, and about everybody, male or female, can sympathize with that. Ouch!!

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  35. 30. @Steve.
    Obama should have just brought the empty chair. It would have been more effective.

    Comment by The Emperor — 10/4/2012 @ 10:26 am

    True.

    Because if the chair wins, great.

    If the chair loses, Axelrod can go on the talk show circuit and say, “big deal, Romney beat the crap out of an empty chair.”

    If you paint the chair black, Chris Matthews can have multiple orgasms over Romney’s appeals to racism.

    Leaving Barack Obama plenty of time to appear on “Letterman” and “The View.”

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  36. Comment by Dana — 10/4/2012 @ 10:45 am

    Rush is discussing the anger component in the reaction of many of the one’s supporters- “We weren’t in the tank for you just to be embarrassed like this!”

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  37. Again, not that it is anything new for this crowd, but for some the issue is playing politics in order to win an election and have power, and nothing to do with the conviction that one has better ideas to govern the country that are to be argued in the light of day.

    It is theoretically possible that Romney is a cynical SOB that simply does a much better acting job, but the obvious evidence points to Obama interested in winning an election with propaganda and obfuscation and painfully lacking when details and facts show up.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  38. Heh. It’s nice to see the well oiled machine grind to a confused slow-down…however, this only guarantees that from here on out, Obama’s camp is going to get nasty, mean, and take no prisoners. And in order to do this, he’ll need to assuage the betrayed feelings of the MSM. It’ll take some work, but fear not, they will get back in bed with him because they have no shame and care not about truth, but instead care more about their wounded reputations (such as they are).

    Dana (292dcf)

  39. “Shift to center”?

    From left of center? Well I’d say he accomplished that with his VP pick. Last night the States Rights validation of the choice, speaking to the 10th amendment, that education is a State and Local expertise and responsibility, that free enterprise better instantiates most solutions Americans demand than government, that individuals best know how to meet their individual needs, …

    He moved to the Right with a conclusion returning to a constitutional focus of any way forward in policy.

    Speaking as one of the majority of Independents, those to the right of the GOP median, he swept up a number of undecideds, more than still remain.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  40. 31. …or will he end up like Capt. Queeg on the witness stand?

    Comment by MD in Philly — 10/4/2012 @ 10:43 am

    Relax, doc. In the wake of the sacking or our Libyan embassy and the assassination of our diplomatic staff, the President wants you to know he won’t rest until he finds the culprits who stole the strawberries.

    You know, it’s a serious crime when strawberries go missing from the officers’s mess. Why, when Obama gets his hands on those miscreants who stole the strawberries…

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  41. # 4 — That was exactly my reaction. After I fell out of my chair with laughter.

    # 5 — I always said that Obama picked Joe Biden as VP to be a form of assassination insurance. Because Bozo the Clown was unavailable.

    Bored Lawyer (a0043c)

  42. MISTER Thomas Xtopher, Rhodes scholar and true journalist:
    “Thanks for admitting that Barack Obama is the personification of truth.”

    “The reason Mitt Romney won that debate: no one punished him for lying. Not media, not moderator, and not POTUS”

    “It’s true that POTUS didn’t punish Romney for his lies, but it’s our job to do it now”

    — The “Romney won because he lied” meme is officially in full flight.

    Icy (537b0c)

  43. Hinderaker on the contestants:

    “Mitt Romney is much smarter, much more knowledgeable, and much more experienced than Obama.”

    Add to that the obvious disparity in work ethic and there is simply no need for further debate.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  44. 41. – The “Romney won because he lied” meme is officially in full flight.

    Comment by Icy — 10/4/2012 @ 10:59 am

    I also detect the distinct aftertaste of “Obama didn’t want to risk being too professorial” along with the slight hint of the oaken barrel in which whatever they’re drinking fermented in.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  45. Meanwhile, a gas station in Calabasas (CA) is charging $5.69 for a gallon. If only the second debate where being held there.

    JVW (f5695c)

  46. Comment by Steve57 — 10/4/2012 @ 11:04 am

    Did you see the moment in the Scott Brown-Elizabeth Warren debate when Warren kept interrupting him and Brown finally put her in her place? The Warren brigade in Massachusetts is spinning this as a mean domineering male talking down to a meek intellectual female professor, but I love the fact that he reminded her that the real world is not a Harvard classroom.

    JVW (f5695c)

  47. Comment by JVW — 10/4/2012 @ 11:04 am

    In overhearing a discussion on gas prices on the radio, my wife noted she had totally forgotten that gas had been under $2.00 when Obama won the election.

    Media coverage, or lack thereof, works, unless one purposefully spends time looking for alternate news sources, otherwise things slip into the malaise of “the new normal”.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  48. The Dem spinners and water-carriers were so hocked last nite that they forgot to spin, and instead fell into fits of despair.

    At noon today, they woke up and got their messaging coordinated. The Message Is: ROMNEY LIED!

    Big surprise. But wait … are they therefore concding that BHO is so stupid he could not recognize and rebut the lies on the spot?? YES THEY ARE!!

    With one month left, I’d lie to anybody about anything if it would get the SCOAMF out of office.

    gp (5a38d9)

  49. Interesting to see the take from some of the Choom worshippers. Kos wouldn’t work for me but I saw there were headings indicating that Obama won and Romney will have lost regardless because he is a liar and the fact checkers will show it. Spent all of 15 seconds at the LGF cesspool where the bad charles johnson essentially asked how could Romney win when all he had were lies. And so Romney even accuses his own sons of telling lies to him.
    No idea what drivel DU, CodePink, Moron.org and other fever swamps are saying but fatboy Mikey Moore was unkind in his tweets about Romney and fat man/bear/pig blames the mile high altitude for O’s performance. Seems Romney had an unfair advantage because he was acclimated longer.
    So Chrissy Matthews had a meltdown and his bowels let loose, while Sharpton thinks Romney should be arrested for his lies.
    In any case, I will have to see the VP debate. I gather Ryan is nimble enough to get around any moderator nonsense. Read somewhere libs upset with Candy Crowley and want her replaced. I assume she’s moderating at some point.
    I have a friend collecting a fat paycheck doing PR work for Lynn U. where the late October debate will be. Wonder if she still drools over Obama.
    Anyway it does appear the word out is Romney lied. My take is that Obama has lied his whole life.

    Calypso Louis Farrakhan (e799d8)

  50. James Carville says Romney “came in with a chainsaw”

    Ever been to Park City, Utah? It’s gorgeous.

    I once had to cut short a trip there due to the Gulf War or some such breaking out. Big Navy can’t get along without me under those circumstances.

    The Mormons working the hotel desk were freakishly nice. They said if I needed to fly they’d take care of my car for as long as I was gone. I believed them. Even now, 20 plus years later, I’m convinced I could walk back into that hotel and they’d hand me the keys to a nicely detailed, well maintained 5.0 Mustang convertible.

    This is the kind of guy Carville says took a chainsaw to Satan’s and Mayor Daley’s Cook County stepchild.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  51. 20, First you sully the name of Pat Tillman. Second, “Anyone can win at a game if they cheat and the other side still insists (stupidly, IMO) in playing by the rules.” encapsulates the reality Republicans labored under election after election.

    It’s about time you Libs took it on the chin and got the ten count out.

    PCD (20a31c)

  52. It is Tommy Xtopher’s job to punish Romney?! Really?!

    JD (ab8eee)

  53. _____________________________________________

    Meanwhile, a gas station in Calabasas (CA) is charging $5.69 for a gallon.

    BTW, that pricing apparently is unique to uber-blue California at the moment, since fires or maintenance problems at oil refineries in the state (most of them old, and newer versions of them having not been built in decades) are upsetting the supply-and-demand equation for motorists in the West. The core of that is born out of the same CO2-is-pollution, environmentalism-is-our-religion mindset that is fostering the shuttering of coal mines — and the energy they provide — on the East Coast, thanks largely to wonderful liberals like Barry Obama.

    Mark (6d5e0d)

  54. 5, it means that guy who caught the foul ball keeping the Cubs out of the World Series wasn’t available to be VP.

    PCD (20a31c)

  55. In any case, I will have to see the VP debate. I gather Ryan is nimble enough to get around any moderator nonsense.
    Comment by Calypso Louis Farrakhan — 10/4/2012 @ 11:11 am

    I’m not sure I can watch. It may be unfit viewing for women and children and the faint of heart. I say that tongue in cheek for humor, but I really do think that it could be like Ali in his prime against someone who really doesn’t belong in a pro ring.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  56. Axeldouche finally settled on their new narrative, and they are pleading with the MFM to paint Romney as a deceptive liar. Tommy Xtopher dropped to his knees immediately.

    JD (ab8eee)

  57. 54. In any case, I will have to see the VP debate. I gather Ryan is nimble enough to get around any moderator nonsense.
    Comment by Calypso Louis Farrakhan — 10/4/2012 @ 11:11 am

    I’m not sure I can watch. It may be unfit viewing for women and children and the faint of heart. I say that tongue in cheek for humor, but I really do think that it could be like Ali in his prime against someone who really doesn’t belong in a pro ring.

    Comment by MD in Philly — 10/4/2012 @ 12:10 pm

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m really looking forward to Biden professing to the entire world when he debates Ryan in Kentucky how ecstatic he is to be back in Venezuela.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  58. ABC’s Martha Raddatz is the moderator. I’ve got money on the prospect that while thinking he’s in Venezuala he mistakes her for one of the Secret Service’s Colombian hookers.

    Anyone care to place a side bet?

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  59. “And by that unassailable piece of logic, Obama lost because he didn’t lie enough.”

    No, the consensus even among the chattering class whose opinions you now (magically!) support are in agreement that he “lost” because he didn’t POINT OUT Romney’s lies.

    Which should be easy to do. Romney has contradicted himself so many times that even his own campaign has already “corrected” many of his lies last night, such as the coverage for pre-existing conditions, the $7billion medicare “cut” (that both budgets include), cutting taxes for the rich, etc etc.

    I think Obama may have simply been stunned at the level and forcefullness of Romney’s mendacity.

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  60. On the news here, the guy they got on tried to claim that Romney won because expectations were low for him.

    Of course, as our host showed, the opposite is true.

    scrubone (e7e0ea)

  61. Romney has contradicted himself so many times that even his own campaign has already “corrected” many of his lies last night, such as the coverage for pre-existing conditions, the $7billion medicare “cut” (that both budgets include), cutting taxes for the rich, etc etc.

    Aww, sweet bejeebus. If there is a merciful God president 57 states of the Egypt is not an ally will go there.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  62. we knew it was true
    behind the smoke and mirrors
    there is no there there

    Colonel Haiku (6431cd)

  63. People may find it interesting to contrast what we’re being told in New Zealand with the coverage in the US.
    http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/mnr/mnr-20121005-0719-president_seems_to_come_off_second_best_in_first_debate-048.mp3

    scrubone (e7e0ea)

  64. Romney was a horrible rhetorician compared to Obama. If he won, he won on substance.

    Obama lost on “If you cannot dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****”. Obama just had not eaten enough hay.

    nk (875f57)

  65. Look for Chrissie Matthews to blow an “O”-ring before November 6th.

    Colonel Haiku (6431cd)

  66. Tilly, you know, you didn’t build that meme. You’ve got a government teacher to thank.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  67. I thought the PBS stuff was silly (but effective) pandering, and LOLed at this response:

    “Cutting PBS support (0.012% of budget) to help balance the Federal budget is like deleting text files to make room on your 500Gig hard drive.”
    –Neil deGrasse Tyson

    carlitos (49ef9f)

  68. Colorado Chainsaw Massacre

    Colonel Haiku (6431cd)

  69. I bet ol’ Eleanor Clift – Chief Democrat POTUS Fluffer – had to work overtime to salvage the 20th Anniversary Bumpin’ Uglies late night fest.

    Colonel Haiku (6431cd)

  70. 64. Look for Chrissie Matthews to blow an “O”-ring before November 6th.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku — 10/4/2012 @ 12:33 pm

    No worries, I hear MSNBC has brought Fel-Pro onboard as an official sponsor to minimize the chance of those embarrassing head gasket assplosions.

    I know some people who’ve made along the lines of 900hp on nitrous and those things have kept the engine together.

    Well, they weren’t obviously the point of failure.

    I hear they came out with an upgraded version just to keep the gases Chrissie produces from destroying the world.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  71. “along with the slight hint of the oaken barrel in which whatever they’re drinking fermented in.”

    Steve57 – I think it actually might be the wormwood in the absinthe which our intellectual elite quaff.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  72. Check out Obama travelling press secretary
    Jen Psaki on Greta last night:
    How Did ‘Professor’ Obama Do?
    “Tonight was great for the president.”
    “He delivered on exactly what was planned.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/index.html

    mrt721 (75a1ff)

  73. If the President lost because Romney was “lying,” the left is in bigger trouble than we thought.

    Ag80 (b2c81f)

  74. I don’t care who you are, just the grin Mitt Romney is wearing compared to the hang-dog expression on Mooch’s and Magic Mouth’s faces is priceless.

    Thanks for the metaphor, James Carville. The Mormon missionary brought a chainsaw to the ‘hood and cut Obama’s a** up three ways; long, fast, and deep.

    Perfect.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  75. even his own campaign has already “corrected” many of his lies last night

    Comment by P. Tillman — 10/4/2012 @ 12:28 pm

    Really? You have a link?

    Gerald A (f26857)

  76. Ok, I may not have been the only person to form the thought, but I’m claiming credit for observing early on that Barack Obama is a thin skinned little prima donna. No drama Obama? Screw that. He’s a Shih Tzu dolled up in a business suit.

    I believe I can document the fact I brought this up at least as far back as when I observed the diplomatic note he sent to the Iranians begging them to make him look good with which he shamed the nation might as well have been written by a 12 year old girl trying to get back with her jock boyfriend.

    This now becomes relevant because everyone’s picking up on it.

    The Onion: Sasha Obama Asks Father Why He Was Acting Like Such A Pussy During Debate

    “Daddy, how come you were being such a little bitch?” asked the sixth-grader, who told the president she was “genuinely worried” that maybe somebody had “cut Daddy’s balls off” right before he took the stage. “What happened, Dad? Were you on your period or something? Maybe the next time you’re in front of the entire country for an hour and a half you should try not letting another man spank you on the ass like that.”

    I claim copyright infringement.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  77. Ever seen one of those know-it-all, know-nothing sportscasters bloviate on and on? Sure you have. Now imagine if the same guy were thrown into a real game and had to actually play qb against a real opponent for the first time. That was the debate I saw.

    This was huge. This was, in effect, Romney’s first impression to the undecideds and he nailed it. They are looking for a reason to dump Obama and all they need to know is that the replacement is worth a try and that’s exactly what they saw.

    Subsequent debates will not dispel that impression. Romney may win a debating point here, or lose one there, but the undecideds can see that he’s not at all as the media has portrayed him; he’s worth a try.

    Coupled with the real polling – i.e. w/out the Dem skew of +10 points or whatever that’s been baked in lately – plus the preference cascade effect, this election is now Romney’s to lose, and he doesn’t look like he will. Don’t get cocky, kid, but don’t get down, either. Good debate.

    ras (be1e0d)

  78. Ha ha, he should totally dress like that onion photo for the adam smith dinner.

    scrubone (e7e0ea)

  79. ras – what you are saying is exactly what I saw at work this morning.

    Pious Agnostic (2c3220)

  80. Wow Stillman, your mendacity is quite something to behold. And the detail of your comment was…oh, about as empty as the zipster’s head.

    ∅ (721840)

  81. Steve57, in my corner of the hood, it would be said:

    “…cut Obama’s a** up three ways; long, wide, and frequent.”

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  82. Is this the beginning of the end for the One?

    No, January 20th, 2009 was!
    The Oath of Office was his Presidential high-point.

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  83. Why are you guys trying to dispel Tillman’s myths? Let him, and all others who think as he does, cling to them as strongly as they can, and may they plan all their future campaigns accordingly.

    P.S. In a true meritocracy, the chair would sub in for the next debate, cuz it did better against Eastwood than Obama did against Romney. Poll-tested truth!

    ras (be1e0d)

  84. GAS PRICES….

    In my little corner of L.A.Co., the price of gas at the local ARCO went up 10-cents/day the two days prior to the debate.

    Now that’s Hope&Change.

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  85. 81. Steve57, in my corner of the hood, it would be said:

    “…cut Obama’s a** up three ways; long, wide, and frequent.”

    Comment by AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! — 10/4/2012 @ 2:16 pm

    Always nice to get a different perspective from another side of the swamp corner of the ‘hood.

    Homey.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  86. Victory is sweet!

    I called it “Romm Bombs Bams”.

    Patricia (e1d89d)

  87. AD–

    Gas at the local Mobil, whose prices are always pretty middling, is $4.49/gallon for regular today.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  88. Obviously, Mr. Obama is powerless in the rarefied air of Denver without those Roman columns

    Neo (d1c681)

  89. I expect that Obama will come out swinging in the next debate. Sadly, all he has to swing with is the same old BS. Romney’s job will be to avoid descending into the mud with him.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  90. Romney also needs a clear answer on why he doesn’t offer infinite detail.

    Suggestion: “Past a certain point, the legislature needs room to wheel and deal, and it’s a bad idea to make campaign promises that you can’t keep.”

    Not to put to fine a point on it.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  91. *too* fine a point

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  92. Mitt did more for conservatism last night than he did in his whole term as govna.

    mg (44de53)

  93. Kevin M, I think Mitt made that point quite clearly last night when discussing compromise and how he got an 87% Dem legislature to vote for his health care bill.
    He brought it up again later in the debate when JEF pressed him for specifics.

    Gazzer (9b910f)

  94. Oh my. You must see Taiwan News’ coverage of the debate. Awesome.

    http://youtu.be/iNhUI8ktHuw

    carlitos (49ef9f)


  95. AD–

    Gas at the local Mobil, whose prices are always pretty middling, is $4.49/gallon for regular today.

    Comment by Kevin M — 10/4/2012 @ 2:53 pm

    Well, it was $4.49 at noon. Now it’s $4.69 for regular. The ARCO I just went to is $4.39, and it’s usually the lowest price in West LA.


    Apparently there’s a shortage

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  96. I went out and bought a bunch of pudding today.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  97. “Romney also needs a clear answer on why he doesn’t offer infinite detail.”

    Kevin M. –

    A. Obama isn’t offering any plans let alone anything detailed, so let them suck it.

    B. Why give my opponents something to take free shots at when they aren’t presenting anything of their own. Let them go suck it again.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  98. Kevin M. –

    C. I’ll present more detail when President Obama presents a detailed agenda for his second term.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  99. 95. I went out and bought a bunch of pudding today.

    Comment by daleyrocks — 10/4/2012 @ 4:14 pm

    Butterscotch? I always thought butterscotch was the nicest lickety lick flavor of pudding to eat when the nicest of blackety black preezy’s was speaking all blackety black while flushing the economy down the toilety toilet.

    Or whatever it was one of our most recent trolls was trying to say.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  100. Steve57 – I haven’t decided whether to eat it or not.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  101. Kevin M, the ARCO that I spoke of earlier, went from $3.999 on Monday to $4.199 Wednesday.
    No telling where it will be at 5pm.
    Over here in SE LACo, things are usually a little more reasonable than over on the high-priced West Side.

    AD-Restore the Republic/Obama Sucks! (b8ab92)

  102. Obama may come out swinging…depending on how many of our embassies are burning that night, right?

    And he can’t crow about killing Bin Laden, or else Romney will remind him that’s not allowed in our nation any longer! It will upset the crocodile.

    Patricia (e1d89d)

  103. nk

    are you all right?

    EPWJ (2a58f7)

  104. Comment by scrubone — 10/4/2012 @ 12:33 pm

    Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, a lot of that was an interview with a Univ. Pitt person who was shading things a bit for Obama. The NZ anchor seemed to be more objective on it.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  105. Via PowerLine:

    Romney had delivered “a very vigorous performance but one that was devoid of honesty”,
    Axelrod said.
    “And so today, as the day after, I think the question for you [the media], for the American people is really one of character and whether or not a candidacy that’s so fundamentally rooted in hiding the truth and the facts from the American people and deception is the basis of trust on which you assign the presidency to a person. …
    “Because we need an an honest and a genuine and realistic plan to move forward and not a bunch of lines designed to get you through a debate.”

    Maybe a new term should be coined, “Axelrodding”- to distort the truth where no distortion has taken it before.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  106. I think axelturf, creating false consensus is already taking

    http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2509895/#.UG4zc1FX43z

    narciso (ee31f1)

  107. how ’bout them apples, narciso?

    Colonel Haiku (6431cd)

  108. P.Tillman’s belief that Obama, the most dishonest President we’ve had in my lifetime, was surprised by Romney’s supposed lies is about average for stupidity by PT’s standards.

    SPQR (ba4683)

  109. I think Obama may have simply been stunned at the level and forcefullness of Romney’s mendacity.
    Comment by P. Tillman — 10/4/2012 @ 12:28 pm

    — Yeah well, add that to the economy he inherited and those “surprise” attacks on the anniversary of 9/11 and you’ve got a guy that pretty much isn’t prepared to deal with ANYTHING.

    Icy (537b0c)

  110. Comment by narciso — 10/4/2012 @ 6:11 pm

    I followed the link, narciso, and found a very interesting story about a possible Obama fund raising scandal, but nothing about “axelturf”.

    Even so, while creating false consensus may be bad enough, the full scale wanton dishonesty as displayed in the above quote requires its own claim to dishonor.

    Truth is stranger than fiction. Who would believe that the United States is being led (for now anyway) by people who have glorified Lucifer, the father of lies, as their “Patron Saint” of radicalism? The Audacity of Radicalism.

    Sometimes it seems like we’re collectively caught at the end of Three Days of the Condor, where we know the truth but can’t get people to listen.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  111. 105. When it rains, it pours. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving _______________(you pick).

    Seems France is dissolving along with the rest of the commies.

    102. If nk is in need of nothing more than company, mish shedlock, globalanalysis.com, is a Paulian so persuaded.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  112. globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com*

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  113. Well we can’t go to the Times, like Redford’s character, and we’ve moved to a point that would make the Watergate revelations, seem mild by comparison,

    narciso (ee31f1)

  114. 101. Comment by Patricia — 10/4/2012 @ 4:24 pm

    Obama….And he can’t crow about killing Bin Laden, or else Romney will remind him that’s not allowed in our nation any longer! It will upset the crocodile.

    Obama actually crowed about Bin Laden (going after him, not specifically putting an end to his career) in the first debate.

    Foreign policy actually came up in passing more than once or twice, but Jim Lehrer really wanted to avoid that and I think he must have talked to them about it.

    Notice here:

    LEHRER: Excuse me. Excuse me. Just so everybody understands, we’re way over our first 15 minutes.

    ROMNEY: It’s fun, isn’t it?

    LEHRER: It’s OK, it’s great. No problem. Well, you all don’t have — you don’t have a problem, I don’t have a problem, because we’re still on the economy…..

    So the important point to Jim Lehrer was not to get off the subject of domestic policy, like happened in previous Presidential debates .

    Sammy Finkelman (8423d6)

  115. Comment by SPQR — 10/4/2012 @ 6:27 pm

    I think stupid is far too nice a description. “Stupid” is a lack of information, an inability to think with reason. Scoundrels who live on deceit may be foolish, but they are wicked, not stupid.

    Pardon me, SPQR, I’m not trying to pick an argument with you, we’re just both grasping at trying to describe vile behavior. Trying to carry water for dishonest, despicable, deceitful people is a terrible thing to do. May Tillman and those like him have their consciences awakened before it is too late. Those who love to do Lucifer’s bidding will get to share in his fate unless they come to their moral senses.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  116. Hear, hear, MD.

    SPQR (ba4683)

  117. Remember several days ago when Chris Christie bragged that the day after the first debate, we’d all be talking about the race being turned upside down ?

    He wasn’t kidding.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  118. Here is where Barack Obama crowed about bin Laden in the first debate:

    Jim Lehrer had asked a question about partisan gridlock and what each candidate would do as President about the legislative paralysis resulting from it.

    This was near the end – he got in one last question (he had evidently planned to ask more but each question had used up more time than originally allotted)

    After Romney spoke, Barack Obama was speaking:

    …But, look, my philosophy has been, I will take ideas from anybody,

    He always says that. A big complaint of Paul Ryan is that that’s simply not true.

    Democrat or Republican, as long as they’re advancing the cause of making middle-class families stronger and giving ladders of opportunity to the middle class.

    The cause of making middle class families stronger is a new thing for Barack Obama.

    That’s how we cut taxes for middle- class families and small businesses. That’s how we cut a trillion dollars of spending that wasn’t advancing that cause. That’s how we signed three trade deals into law that are helping us to double our exports and sell more American products around the world. That’s how we repealed “don’t ask/don’t tell.”

    That’s how? What’s “that?” Taking ideas from anyone is “that”? That was a Republican idea? Wasn’t that a very, very, left wing idea? It certainly wasn’t any compromise with Republicans. And does this have something to do with “making middle-class families stronger” Maybe a ladder of opportunity, maybe you could say. The opposition to repealing that was based on the idea it would hurt recruitment into the military.

    That’s how we ended the war in Iraq, as I promised,

    The surge was a Republican idea, but he came in afterwards. What he did was duplicate that in Afghanistan and appoint General David Petraeus to take personal charge in Afghanistan – a man whom Democrats had previously, some years before, expressed strong opposition to appointing to take charge in Iraq. But the way the war in Iraq ended was very heavily criticized. There’s no status of forces agreement and Iraq is now becoming an Iranian Finland. Or worse.

    and that’s how we’re going to wind down the war in Afghanistan. That’s how we went after Al Qaida and bin Laden.

    What’s going on here? He’s segued into a list of “achievements.”

    What does this have to do with taking ideas from anyone??

    It has nothing to do with avoiding legislative paralysis.

    Sammy Finkelman (8423d6)

  119. Oh, and MD, as for picking a fight, you know I hold you in the greatest respect.

    SPQR (ba4683)

  120. we’ve moved to a point that would make the Watergate revelations, seem mild by comparison,
    Comment by narciso — 10/4/2012 @ 6:42 pm

    True that. I doubt if many would have seriously suggested that Nixon approved of a gun smuggling effort that resulted in the lives of innocents killed along the border, or that there was a hidden video of him joking it up with Egyptian military commanders about invading Israel or with IRA sympathizers about bombings in London.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  121. Lost the link but a superpac supporting Ogabe has pulled ads in FL and WI to devote resources to ‘tighter’ contests, e.g., NV.

    I smell panic.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  122. daley,

    Unfortunately “suck it” isn’t likely to win the debate. HE has to have a clear, reasonable and complete reason WHY Obama should go suck.

    I kind of like something like I said:

    “Past a certain point, the legislature needs room to wheel and deal, and it’s a bad idea to make campaign promises that you can’t keep.”

    Especially like that last part, which translates to “suck it.”

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  123. BTW, can anyone imagine the rude, insulting, name-calling Obama from today coming onto the debate stage? What plays at a rally does NOT work in mixed company. I truly hope that’s what he brings mid-month.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  124. Have you seen these fun pictures? Romney staff and supporters ecstatically greet Ann (white dress) and Mitt in the backstage corridor following the debate. And a charming picture of one of the Romney grandchildren helping prepare a post debate snack of peanut butter and honey sandwiches. What!!!!? no arugula or wagyu beef?

    http://www.businessinsider.com/photo-romney-staff-debate-obama-wins-2012-10

    elissa (595ecf)

  125. BTW, can anyone imagine the rude, insulting, name-calling Obama from today coming onto the debate stage? What plays at a rally does NOT work in mixed company.
    Comment by Kevin M — 10/4/2012 @ 6:59 pm

    He’s gotten away with voting “present” and having the opposition intimidated into silence and the wheels of propaganda covering for him. He doesn’t have game. He has nothing but pompous self-aggrandizing attacks on straw men, and when he actually has to debate with an opponent who thinks and has conviction, he has nothing.

    He’s like a bully who was finally faced-up to, who is telling lies the next morning on the playground before the truth gets out.

    Hinderaker found something to admire about Obama, “he’s consistent”, never took responsibility for anything before in his life, not about to change now:
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/10/what-i-admire-about-obama.php

    It appears that CNN is continuing to do some journalism, calling the Obama campaign on just who is telling the lies.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  126. In contrast, it’s kind of fun to imagine what it was like backstage over on the Obama side after the debate ended. Did Mooch and Valerie have any kind words to say to the President? Were there hugs and high-fives all around? Was the president pumped up? I sort of doubt it.

    elissa (595ecf)

  127. iowahawkblog “Thanks for all the new follows. I promise I will never sell out – like the rich tobacco taste of Newport® menthols. Come Alive with Flavor!”

    Now THERE is a very funny man.

    Colonel Haiku (6431cd)

  128. Colonel,

    Iowahawk is hilarious. I don’t know why he isn’t writing a satirical column for The Weekly Standard or National Review or something.

    Elephant Stone (65d289)

  129. Re 127, my guess…because he does it for fun, not for points or for money and doesn’t want to have to murk up his (spectacular, and spectacularly informed) sense of humor with pedestrian motives such as ‘making a living’.

    That, or he really is blind to how good he is.

    I sort of hope not, on that latter part at least. Talent like that deserves to be able to pat itself on the back every now and again.

    rtrski (f95811)

  130. _____________________________________________

    Trying to carry water for dishonest, despicable, deceitful people is a terrible thing to do. May Tillman and those like him have their consciences awakened before it is too late.

    I don’t think leftists like Tillman will ever awaken from their ideological slumber. They’re too caught up in the notion that they — unlike other folks and certainly their political opposites — are fighting the good fight for compassion, humanity, populist ideals, and brotherly love. And so if the ends justify the means, that’s perfectly fine.

    If a strategy that requires one lie through his teeth helps enhance the liberal cause, then so be it. Or if a tactic that claims that plain truths are lies, and lies are plain truths, is useful in advancing the cause, then that’s fine and wonderful too.

    Generally, the most blatant, brazen lies emanate from the left — from politicians of the left — far more than dishonesty comes from the right. Part of that is because liberal biases seem to make people less ashamed of their shortcomings, more tolerant of unethical behavior in themselves and others—at least if they’re also on the left.

    That’s why when people who align themselves with the party of Bill and Hillary Clinton, and Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, and trial lawyers and Solyndra hucksters — and Barack “Youtube-video-caused-Libya-tragedy” Obama — accuse others of dishonesty, that deserves the biggest, loudest guffaw imaginable.

    Mark (6d5e0d)

  131. 99. Steve57 – I haven’t decided whether to eat it or not.

    Comment by daleyrocks — 10/4/2012 @ 4:23 pm

    See, unlike some people who comment here this is how I know you’re not some 13 y.o. kid.

    If you were a 13y.o. kid subjected to the Obama starvation diet known as the new school lunch rules, you’d have eaten that pudding.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  132. 99. Steve57 – I haven’t decided whether to eat it or not.

    Comment by daleyrocks — 10/4/2012 @ 4:23 pm

    I also picked up on the fact you’re not North Korean, for the same reason.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  133. 123. Heh. Gotta admit I’m liking these folk more than I expected.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  134. 123- Those are real Americans that love this country.
    I noticed when the sotero’s left the stage after the debate the more presidential the Romney family looked.

    mg (44de53)

  135. 124. Dig the passion.

    126,127,128. A very deep stream:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nzMViUWIDk&list=UUL599ItVtpSl3pJpaMjb6ww&index=10&feature=plcp

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  136. It’s difficult to comprehend the artist, the technician, the perfectionist behind such work. An academic?

    http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2010/01/norman-podhoretz-by-jove-i-like-the-cut-of-this-hebrews-jib.html

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  137. 117. On second thought, I think that list of “achievements”, that ended with going after bin Laden, is actually a list of things he did that were not supported only by members of his own party, although that may not be strictly accurate, at least when you get into exactly what he did.. (while everyone wanted the war in Iraq to end, a lot did not want it to end the way it did and there is a lot of opposition to setting a date for ending the presence of U.S. military forces in Afghanistan.)

    Sammy Finkelman (8423d6)

  138. Comment by gary gulrud — 10/4/2012 @ 6:55 pm

    Lost the link but a superpac supporting Ogabe has pulled ads in FL and WI to devote resources to ‘tighter’ contests, e.g., NV.

    I smell panic.

    Florida, at 29 Electoral votes, is the biggest swing state, and is considered virtually a must-win for Romney. Not so much for Obama.

    Wisconsin has 10 Electoral votes, is historically very close is close elections, but has been won by Democrats in 2000 and 2004, and is considered almost a bonus state for Romney, that, together with New Hampshire (4) and Iowa (6) could make up for the loss of Ohio (18) or Virginia (13).

    Nevada has only 6 Electoral votes. Obama strategy for benefitting from the Hispanic vote has been hinging on trying to carry New Mexico (5) likely, Colorado (9) and Nevada (6) for a total of 20.

    New Mexico was carried by Gore in the year 2000, but not 2004. The other two went for Bush both years. Iowa was the only other state besides New Mexico to switch from Gore to Bush – New Hampshire flipped the other way between 2000 and 2004, and all other states stayed the same.

    Bush carrying New Hampshire in 2000 may be said to have made him President. Bush carrying Florida would not have helped him in 2000, had he not also carried New Hampshire that year, with its prize of 4 Electoral votes. (the only place northeast of Ohio, West Virginia, and Virginia that he carried.)

    If this means anything, it is that polls are now showing a greater possibility that Obama will lose Colorado, so the place to make gains is Nevada, with Harry Reid’s machine.

    Sammy Finkelman (8423d6)

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    zobacz (155aea)

  141. Could somebody explain to me the point of such poorly written comment spam?

    JD (ab8eee)

  142. 140.Could somebody explain to me the point of such poorly written comment spam

    It’s more coherent than P. Tillman’s drivel.

    ∅ (721840)

  143. “See, unlike some people who comment here this is how I know you’re not some 13 y.o. kid.”

    Steve57 – Buying the pudding was a precautionary move in case local stores run out. Not a pre-celebration because I can always eat it. Ace started a tradition a few years back which I don’t want to spoil for you. I can opt for just a regular dipping or fill the bathtub and go for a full body immersion.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  144. Comment by ∅ — 10/5/2012 @ 8:08 am

    I know I repeat myself, but I still think it is some kind of prelude to a major cyber-attack to shut down the Internet.
    (The amount of sincerity vs. tongue-in-cheek varies from day to day).

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  145. LOL, just as I predicted: Romney may have CHEATED:

    http://marblehead.patch.com/articles/tell-us-did-romney-bring-notes-to-the-debate-5dd60591#youtube_video-11612170

    But that’s okee-dokey if you’re a Republican or Lying-for-the-Lord Mormon, of course!!

    P. Tillman (fcbc8b)

  146. 144. Never participated in a debate PeeTee? You get to use and take notes.

    I Willard cheated it was brining an IQ above warm spit.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  147. 137. Thank you, yes I imagined they’d have a reasoning for their action. I just don’t believe they believe it.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  148. Magnificent beat ! I would like to apprentice even as you amend your website, how can i subscribe for a blog site? The account aided me a applicable deal. I have been a little bit familiar of this your broadcast offered bright transparent idea

    patrz (e35d60)

  149. 144. 144.LOL, just as I predicted: Romney may have CHEATED:

    http://marblehead.patch.com/articles/tell-us-did-romney-bring-notes-to-the-debate-5dd60591#youtube_video-11612170

    But that’s okee-dokey if you’re a Republican or Lying-for-the-Lord Mormon, of course!!

    Comment by P. Tillman — 10/5/2012 @ 10:18 am

    I hate to be boring. But it’s hard not to be boring when dispensing with the likes of Tilly.

    What comment thread it was, I forget, as I’m even boring myself. But I might have come across as full of myself as if it’s somehow clever to figure the likes of Tilly or Chrissie Matthews or Andrea Mitchell or whichever dullard of the moment was being discussed.

    It’s not.

    As a matter of fact, the only element I find interesting is putting money on which of the freakin’ two or three plays in the libtard playpook maggots like Tilly are going to whip out in any one given moment.

    They’re down to, what? Racism, lying, and abortion.

    Yeah! I win the interwebs. But then, just about everyone wins the interwebs.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  150. Which one of us could not write this as a blogger on Ace of Spades?

    Debate Truthers: Liberals Can’t Believe Their God Bled, So They’re Claiming Romney Cheated

    During the debate, he used the so-called “handkerchief” as a… handkerchief.

    Steve57 (c8ac21)

  151. Comment by JD — 10/5/2012 @ 8:00 am

    Could somebody explain to me the point of such poorly written comment spam?

    I think it is supposed to contain a hyperlink, usually at the name of the commentator (click on the name and you go somewhere) but sometimes it fails to leave a link.

    Sammy Finkelman (8423d6)

  152. From now on, on every thread on which P.T. appears, we must remind him that he does not know what a handkerchief looks like.

    SPQR (ed5c55)

  153. Transcript of the first debate: (for reference)

    http://www.npr.org/2012/10/03/162258551/transcript-first-obama-romney-presidential-debate

    Sammy Finkelman (b74417)


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