Patterico's Pontifications

3/27/2012

Deport the Criminals First: Two Stories

Filed under: Crime,Deport the Criminals First,General,Immigration — Patterico @ 7:03 am

A triple murderer should have been deported after his previous robbery and assault conviction leading to a prison sentence. Gee, maybe we should Deport the Criminals First:

A day after authorities arrested a suspect in connection with the brutal slayings of five people in a San Francisco home, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say the accused killer had eluded deportation and instead had to be released from custody in 2006.

San Francisco police have connected Binh Thai Luc, 35, of San Francisco with the grotesque killings of three men and two women, who were discovered dead about 7:45 a.m. Friday by a woman who had access to the house. Officials arrested Luc on Sunday and alluded to his having a criminal history.

On Monday, officials said Luc had been taken into ICE custody in August 2006 as he was serving a prison sentence at San Quentin State Prison for assault and attempted robbery. Officials say he was ordered to be removed from the country by an immigration judge a month later, but because Vietnamese authorities declined to provide appropriate travel documents, Luc could not be deported and had to be released in December 2006.

Vietnam didn’t want their robber back? Now there’s a shocker.

I think it’s about time we told countries that we don’t care if they don’t want their criminals back. They are their problem, not ours. If they don’t like it, no more American cash.

So that’s one issue. But this one was obvious: of course we should deport robbers. I keep hearing, though, that we are being meanies by wanting to deport illegals who commit minor crimes, like DUIs. OK . . . and when we don’t, here’s what can happen:

Immigration officials confirmed Monday that the suspect in an alleged drunken driving wreck that killed one boy and critically injured another was in the country illegally.

Luis Hector Lopez-Rodriguez, 27, of San Luis Potosi, Mexico, is accused of plowing into the porch of a southwest Houston apartment, where two young boys were playing during a March 17 party, authorities said.

Gregory Palmore, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokesman, said agents have determined that Lopez-Rodriguez was in the country illegally and have filed paperwork to detain him. Palmore said ICE officials had no prior contact with Lopez-Rodriguez, who was convicted of driving while intoxicated in Harris County in January 2008.

. . . .

Jesus Ordonez, 7, was taken to Memorial Hermann Southwest Hospital, where he was pronounced dead. Christopher Cruz, 4, suffered burns on more than 40 percent of his body after the car slammed into a hot grill, authorities said.

Yeah, they had no contact with him because they didn’t start their program until later in 2008:

Immigration officials launched a jail screening program called Secure Communities in the Harris County Jail in the fall of 2008 . . .

Wish they’d listened to me. In November 2003, I said:

Look, I understand that we don’t have the resources to deport all illegal immigrants. But it seems like a no-brainer to start with the criminals. If a single immigration agent is worrying himself with illegals who have not already been convicted of a crime serious enough to warrant jail time, while illegals are being deliberately released from jail, there is something seriously wrong.

I reiterated the idea in March 2005 and December 2006. And I started a crusade with my multi-part series “Deport the Criminalst First” campaign in May 2007.

It’s sometimes fun on this blog for me to call myself Carnac by talking about the correct predictions I have made and so forth. But it’s actually no fun being Carnac when you realize that actual lives would have been saved — like that of the seven-year-old boy above — if people had just listened to you earlier.

By the way, if you’re still opposing identifying criminal aliens in jail, even those convicted of “minor” crimes like DUI, you’re part of the problem — and the blood of children like Jesus Ordonez is on your hands.

13 Responses to “Deport the Criminals First: Two Stories”

  1. I was a criminal investigator with the INS from Oct. 1976 through April 1984, serving in Los Angeles and San Francisco. In LA, we typically had an investigator stationed in the LA County Jail Inmate Reception Center for a late afternoon/early evening shift to interview folks arriving from Sheriff’s substations around the county. We placed INS holds on individuals we identified as aliens illegally in the US and they were picked up by INS once the were otherwise ready for release from county jail. Other law enforcement agencies would call if they had a suspected illegal alien they wanted brought to INS attention.

    We also had a unit called the Criminal Immoral Subversives Squad (CINS) that was responsible for commencing deportation proceedings for deportable aliens in prison, including legal permanent residents who were deportable as a result of their crimes. I think the volume was much greater at the county jail than the state prisons.

    We took all those cases seriously.

    Tim (94541e)

  2. Our esteemed host suggested:

    I think it’s about time we told countries that we don’t care if they don’t want their criminals back. They are their problem, not ours. If they don’t like it, no more American cash.

    No, if they don’t like it, then we won’t send the criminals back on a nice, safe airplane, but send them on a boat and just dump them on the shore. How they get them back is up to them.

    And if they say, “Why, you can’t violate our territorial waters,” then we say, “OK, however you want it,” and put said criminals on a leaky dinghy, with a paddle and one bottle of water, twelve miles out.

    The practical Dana (3e4784)

  3. How can they not accept a citizen of their country?
    Suppose the US were to ask them once, and then execute the person, would their diplomats protest?

    Mike Giles (408593)

  4. I dunno, who is going to commit the crimes Americans don’t want to?

    nk (dec503)

  5. One point for the Windy City barrister!

    The amused Dana (3e4784)

  6. I’m sorry. The “deport the criminals first” mentality is the perfect excuse for those who wish to deport no one to tie up the system by demanding that we define exactly who are criminals. While we chase our tails to prove that murder is indeed a crime, both here and in the country of origin, they will simply demand more and more proof. We are interested in the rule of law. They are interested in causing us problems.

    I have no problem with expediting the deportation of criminals but I really don’t care. Deport them all Every single one. If it can be proved you’re in the country illegal, out you go. Anything else is an excuse for amnesty. The simple fact that someone is in the country illegally is the only reason necessary to deport them.

    A policy of deporting the criminals first is meaningless when we can’t deport anyone.

    Ken Hahn (84c724)

  7. The Left is being gored by the horns of this dilemma.
    In Baghdad-by-the-Bay, they have an IA Asian who has committed multiple homicides, so they can’t rouse the LaRaza troops to generate the hue and cry.
    In Texas, they have (another) IA Hispanic who has committed an unspeakable crime, but since no Anglo was involved, it’s just another-day-in-the-barrio.

    When the Left stops being so concerned about PC, and starts realizing that real people living in the real world are being hurt by their PC Stupidity, this will end.

    I do not anticipate any of that happening.

    When “Uncle Omar” is the face of the Deport the Criminals First failure, the guy behind the desk in the Oval Office is just compounding the “High Crimes and Misdemeanors” on his tally-sheet.

    AD-RtR/OS! (b8ab92)

  8. “I think it’s about time we told countries that we don’t care if they don’t want their criminals back. They are their problem, not ours. If they don’t like it, no more American cash.”

    I hope to hell we’re not providing foreign aid to the Vietnam commies.

    Doing business with them is bad enough.

    I’d go look that one up, but I’m afraid the answer would send me into an uncontrolled rage.

    Dave Surls (46b08c)

  9. We need a Guantanamo type facility for convicted criminals deportees that has Arpaio amenities to hold them until some country accepts them. The country of origin could not complain because they would be released to them upon acceptance.

    dunce (15d7dc)

  10. dunce – with catering by MRE Antoinette ? (Or would that be deemed cruel and unusual ?)

    Alasdair (93b510)

  11. Comment by Dave Surls — 3/27/2012 @ 5:28 pm

    Short answer: Yes, we are sending them foreign aid. Just like we do to almost every other country in the world. It seems that the more the country hates us, the more money we send them. Or maybe it is the more money we send them, the more they hate us? Who cares, it doesn’t really matter. They hate us and we send them money. Stupid, huh?

    Jay H Curtis (804124)

  12. I think it’s about time we told countries that we don’t care if they don’t want their criminals back. They are their problem, not ours. If they don’t like it, no more American cash.

    WTF, no more American cash, my ASS — Why was this SOB released in AMERICA?

    Take his papers, put him on a plane for freaking Vietnam, and let them deal with what to do with him at THEIR airport.

    Problem solved.

    IGotBupkis, Three Time Winner of the Silver Sow Award (8e2a3d)

  13. When the Left stops being so concerned about PC, and starts realizing that real people living in the real world are being hurt by their PC Stupidity, this will end.

    Only when it starts costing them votes, AD, only then.

    IGotBupkis, Three Time Winner of the Silver Sow Award (8e2a3d)


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