Karl Rove makes a lot of good points here:
Hot Air points out that this “sexist RINO establishment ogre” is spending millions to help Angle win in Nevada.
Sorry, Karl. Not good enough. Your years of service to the GOP don’t make up for your insistence on speaking your mind about a candidate who has a bunch of explaining to do about a bunch of odd problems. Excommunicated.
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Angle’s not unwacky herself
happyfeet (19c1da) — 9/16/2010 @ 9:08 pmDaleyrocks?
Sounds like I stand corrected. According to this video, the NRSC “never said” the comment on the primary night about O’Donnell.
I would love to hear the actual origin of that claim.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 9/16/2010 @ 9:09 pmDustin,
If the claim is true that the NRSC never said they wouldn’t support O’Donnell, then it’s anybody’s guess who put the false claim out there – and there are several distinct possibilities.
Dana (8ba2fb) — 9/16/2010 @ 9:16 pmThe reporter should not cover for their cowardly anonymous source if it is shown that was intentional misinformation.
JD (8ded14) — 9/16/2010 @ 9:25 pmMike ‘Iceberg’ Murphy, openly made the same argument
ian cormac (6709ab) — 9/16/2010 @ 9:26 pmopenly in Politico, that was made anonymously the other day. But the backlash from the base, made them partially reconsider
Who finally admitted the Sharron Angle conundrum at Hot Air?
I refuse to read Malkin, yet I bet it wasn’t Malkin.
Here’s the thing.
Miss Shall Be Unnamed was claiming it was”vanity” that was the reason they weren’t supporting her-because their predictions didn’t pan out.
Well Angle beat their predictions, and she beat the Party favorite.
Yet from what I know she won it fair and square.
I am sitting here in Las Vegas so I can tell you for sure-that they have poured a hell of a lot of advertising dollars into Las Vegas for Angle.
Fred Thompson’s wife ends up looking at best out of it.
madawaskan (565543) — 9/16/2010 @ 9:30 pmMr.Rove has a great future starring in TV commercials for the Democrats. Want to bet I’m wrong?
BR (586a80) — 9/16/2010 @ 11:14 pmBR, you’re probably right. Especially because Democrats know that kind of thing can hurt turnout all over the country if played well.
HOWEVER,
I laughed and laughed at Meg Whitman’s awesome ad on Jerry Brown, employing Bill Clinton. The big difference here is that California voters will be surprised by the views of a man they find credible. This ad destroys Brown’s character, and then shows his issue flaws in a way that is relevant to California’s problems.
Dems can’t pull off this ad on O’Donnell to the same extent because Delaware voters don’t like Karl Rove. They don’t believe what he says. This doesn’t undermine O’Donnell’s claims that she’s shaking up the GOP, and they know she’s fresh from a harsh primary. that’s why I think these ads are primarily aimed at demoralizing Republicans outside Delaware.
Rove’s original comments were worse than just cold honesty. He really seemed to be going on a tangent, and genuinely miffed. And I can hardly blame him. I felt the same way, and I’m not doing nearly as much as Rove is to win majorities. But he is a pro, I’m just a schmo. The way Karl Rove explains himself here is classy and professional, and also completely correct. He has earned credibility as loyal to the right and to Tea Party favorites, and his constructive points ID some easy ways for O’Donnell to make up some of those 11 points.
Reform candidates don’t refer you to the website for the non-answer. If they aren’t perfect, they explain the imperfection and get on with the rest of the campaign. Rove went out of his way to show he’s being constructive, which was great.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 9/16/2010 @ 11:32 pmTokyo Rove played the spoiled sport. Why spend millions to defeat Reid, and then butcher and immediately right off the chances of the nominee in Delaware? Don’t these senate seats all come with exactly one vote? Even if he’s correct, and O’Donnell’s chances at taking the seat are not as good as Castles would have been, why make matters worse by running her down and freaking out about moral rectitude? What purpose was served? Rove was way out of line, wrong place and the wrong time and the wrong audience for those comments. Castles conduct is also appalling, I can’t believe that believe like Carl Rove and Charles Krauthammer would invest so much personal prestige on this guy.
exceller (88c906) — 9/16/2010 @ 11:52 pmSorry, Karl, but you did a Badthink, and then compounded the offense with a Badspeak on TV of all places. The Thought Police simply cannot overlook this public defiance – witness the universal denouncing you’ve received. Just be glad they haven’t formed death squads yet. Perhaps one day you may even be rehabilitated, but these “freedom lovers” have long memories and will tolerate no dissent from their party line.
Adjoran (ec6a4b) — 9/17/2010 @ 12:18 am. . . . .
Think good thoughts.
Rove said he is supported of the Tea Party. I don’t think so. He is a loser. The Republican Party need to get rid of these leadership in Washington like John Boehner, John Cornyn, and Mitch McConnell. They are supported the RINOs to win the election in November. The Republican Party need a clean house.
m (fc559b) — 9/17/2010 @ 2:26 amexceller:
Oh please, if Castle had won that primary O’Donnell supporters would hot have been happy about it, they would not have patting him on the back. The truth is that Rove did nothing other than speak the truth. All he did was state some obvious facts…it is as if people who supported O’Donnell actually think the voters would not notice this stuff unless Rove mentioned them. Nonsense, these are real issues with her and they need to be dealt with if she has a chance to win..just getting pissy with everyone who does not pretend otherwise is ridiculous. And it is also ridiculous to pretend that Christine is not a long shot while Castle was pretty much a sure thing, that was always a given. So why jump on Rove for saying what you don’t want to hear?
Terrye (7379d2) — 9/17/2010 @ 2:35 amm:
You know what? Rove has been very successful at getting people elected, that is what he does. It might be a good idea for some of the people who are whining about his remarks to listen to him, he knows what he is talking about, he is not a loser.
Terrye (7379d2) — 9/17/2010 @ 2:37 amDustin:
Maybe Rove was miffed, because he felt that Delaware was lost when it did not have to be lost. A lot of people were miffed. I was miffed. So what? That does not mean that what he said was not true. Am I supposed to act like I suddenly think O’Donnell is a good strong candidate? Would I like to see her beat the Democrat? yes. of course I would. But hey, I am not going to pretend that lying and using your campaign funds to live on is not going to cause her problems. After all, the very people who said party loyalty means nothing, are suddenly asking for an awful lot of it.
Terrye (7379d2) — 9/17/2010 @ 2:43 amI’m curious to see how much time Rove spends publicly analyzing Coons between now and the election. I don’t think he has mentioned him at all yet.
Bob Koss (573e6b) — 9/17/2010 @ 2:44 amBob:
Why? Coons is the Democrat and Rove is a GOP guy.
Terrye (7379d2) — 9/17/2010 @ 3:08 amEven Krauthammer is being heavily criticized because of his opinion on this. The sad part is that many of the comments don’t stop with “I think he is wrong” but rather with a snarky aside about his wheelchair or in Rove’s case his irrelevance. Had it not been for Rove it is possible that we may be in the second term of President Kerry….
It seems that people are forgetting that sometimes their elders have valuable practical experience and lessons that help the party as a whole be successful.
I don’t visit a lot of blogs but the theme about O’Donnell from many of the commentariat is “Get out of the way old folks – the young turks have all the answers”.
The whole irony of the outrage about Rove is that he made those statements in his paid role as a commentator for a network which uses “fair and balanced” as its mantra. He tried to do that and now he is one of the unclean.
If the advocates for the great RINO purge really wanted that they need to accept that the connections, voter lists, reliable pollsters, and the dozens of other tools that have been used by the clueless RINOS will probably not be available.
Eh, what the heck – I’m sure we can win elections with facebook and twitter alone. It’s a brave new world…. /sarc
VOR2 (c9795e) — 9/17/2010 @ 4:00 amwhat #17 said
btw, scott rasmussen’s new book, while rushed into publication (which shows in poor editing in places ) is required reading
i understand many people are mad as heck at the ruling class, democraps and gop establishment alike. but let us not throw the baby out with the bathwater
New Class Traitor (66d75f) — 9/17/2010 @ 4:16 amHis strategy for getting O’Donnell elected is certainly unusual. But maybe scolding the voters for not doing what he wants will work.
Jim Treacher (e041de) — 9/17/2010 @ 4:41 amIt’s really kind of amusing for the left, since we’ve been seeing the wingnut groupthink freakouts for a while now.
imdw (043f60) — 9/17/2010 @ 4:47 amRove/Patterico/Mirengoff smarter-than-smart group hit rock botton, keep digging.
quiznilo (bc6afd) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:53 amYou dno’t give the enemy talking points, many of the same things, he’s forgetten what it was likethirty five years ago, when the Establishment wasunder attack. could be reverse, reverse psychology, maybe he finally realized a ‘bearded Marxist’ was the main target
ian cormac (6709ab) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:57 amHmmmm.
You can try to rehabilitate Rove all you like.
Nobody cares what Rove thinks or says.
Nobody gives a damn what you want.
memomachine (24fbc0) — 9/17/2010 @ 6:16 amSomehow this sounds to me like Jeremiah Wright saying he has a lot of white friends…
MunDane68 (54a83b) — 9/17/2010 @ 6:23 amOh yes, this is a wonderful example of groupthink. Project much?
JD (08bae5) — 9/17/2010 @ 6:39 amI think Rove is overrated as a strategist. His “do just enough to win” thinking gave the GOP no cushion in ’06 and ’08. Instead of a fragile majority in Congress the Democrats enjoy a near supermajority because they, unlike Rove, go for everything and then some. I don’t think Rove is a traitor but I don’t think his strategic vision is what conservatives, libertarians or Republicans need.
The far left in this country know what they want and they will anything to get there. The right is usually engaged in electing people like Jim Jeffords, Arlen Specter and Mike Castle to give us just enough to make abominations like the gang of 14 possible. I certainly wouldn’t read those folks out of the GOP but I most certainly don’t think they should be leading it.
Ken Hahn (45cb09) — 9/17/2010 @ 6:41 amHey, I believe him. I don’t like him, but I believe him. Unity ftw!
CT Lostaglia (ea2b04) — 9/17/2010 @ 6:50 amCut taxes or, at least, maintain status quo? Reduce spending?
If answer is yes to both, you would get my vote. The rest is a sideshow.
ColonelHaiku (1546ed) — 9/17/2010 @ 6:50 amSome of you need to be reminded that the ultimate end is not political power, but restoring America to a functioning Constitutional republic. Castle would have meant a bigger chance for restoring political power to the Republicans, but O’Donnell means a better chance at restoring the republic.
gahrie (ed7a50) — 9/17/2010 @ 7:01 amWhile I acknowledge Roves talent for winning individual races, I argue that his strategy was short sighted. Nothing did more to drive Conservative support away from Republicans than the Bush/Rove “compassionate conservative” strategy to be “Liberal-Dem Lite”. The legacy of Bush’s Presidency and the support of the Lindsey Graham/Olympia Snow republicans at all costs is Pelosi, Reid and Obama in power.
What good is it to have 51 seats if the Castle/Snowe/Grahams of the party vote with Democrats on cap and trade, Obamacare and other socialist nonsense? TO me, at this point, is the bottom line.
SGT Ted (ac46d8) — 9/17/2010 @ 7:29 amWhen Obama and Biden make a call to Castle after his defeat and when Rove, Kraut etc…etc…etc hammer O’Donnell relentlessly, it becomes suspicious if not obvious that they are ALL in this together.
Which is why, what is happening is happening.Both sides are either running around hand in hand or they stupidly, continue to go balls to the walls to defeat the people who have been chosen to represent us………….Think about it, they aren’t stupid.
Drider (85a965) — 9/17/2010 @ 8:03 amThere are times when being right about legal issues or legal debates is contructive. Pointing out facts is definitely good for the argument. Then there are times when having all these assets serves to obfuscate what is really happening on a political stage, i.e. nit-picking about whether Mr. Castle voted for impeachment. He did vote for sending the Kucinich bill to the committee. And why would a conservative do that?
I contend that Paul Mirengof(Powerline)(sp) and others from NRO and Weekly Standard and Mr. Patterico (sic) are defending each other’s statements and positions (about DE senate race) because they don’t actually understand the deep-seated anger that exists.
They say they do, but write as if that anger was not valid because of some misstatements. Constructive criticism is welcome but when it takes on an agenda that is antithetical to the thinking of the people who want to rid themselves of the tyranny that is being thrust upon them, I believe their intellectualism is actually helping the tyrannical.
fgmorley (dc2516) — 9/17/2010 @ 8:09 amI’ve previously questioned Rove’s discernment only because of his apparent opinion — at least in the past — that being kissy-kissy about illegal immigration was a good move for the Republican Party. Or a sound strategy based on the assumption that Latino America therefore wouldn’t be alienated by the right.
But his conclusion idiotically ignored the intrinsic leftist voting habits of a large majority of voters in a nation like Mexico—in spite of an absence of a big, ol’ mean Republican Party, in spite of an absence of controversy over illegal immigration, in spite of an absence of the racial/ethnic “polarization” associated with the US.
And I won’t even mention the record, dating back decades, of consistent pro-liberal/pro-Democrat-Party voting in predominantly Latino communities throughout the US.
Mark (411533) — 9/17/2010 @ 8:32 amHis strategy for getting O’Donnell elected is certainly unusual. But maybe scolding the voters for not doing what he wants will work.
Comment by Jim Treacher — 9/17/2010 @ 4:41 am
Or maybe pointing out that going into a general election it is a good idea for O’Donnell to deal with some of the baggage really is a good idea. I realize that some folks who support O’Donnell do not care about the lies, or the weird finances or the accusations of stalking and all that, but in a general election where not all the voters are Republicans or conservatives it matters.
I was at Instapundit earlier and he linked to a post about how the GOP needs to stop going after O’Donnell and go after Democrats and I thought…well right back at the O’Donnell fan club. Thus far they have done nothing but whine about anyone who is not thrilled about the primary result, except the Democrats, they have not wasted a lot of time worrying about them.
Terrye (7d99e4) — 9/17/2010 @ 11:51 amTerrye,
You’re stereotyping.
I’ve been respectful to you in our backs and forths. I am an O’Donnell supporter.
We have to get beyond the Levin types. Some O’Donnell supporters are jerks, and some are great respectful friends of the pragmatics.
Some folks who support O’Donnell aren’t bothered by ethical issues. Some support her because they’d rather have our flawed guy than their flawed marxist.
Every thread on this I’ve read has someone changing the subject to “But Karl Rove lit that bottle rocket first!!!! AARAHHARAGHHGAHSDFASDF!” or “But someone said Castle was gay and impeached Bush!!!!! aRAARAGHGHGHGHG”
Most O’Donnell supporters are more reasonable. What I find annoying about the Levins is that they are trading the coalition for some pieces of silver. Some of these loudmouths don’t mind screwing up victory in exchange for their fortune and ego.
I expect reasonable people to learn to stick to the coalition despite this stuff. Believe me, the Tea Party usurpers are never going away, so we either adapt or we lose.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 9/17/2010 @ 1:50 pmDustin:
It was not my intent to stereotype, truly it was not. I apologize if I did anything of the kind.
However, it is also not fair to stereotype people like Rove as being against O’Donnell or bad or wrong simply because he points out some obvious problems with her candidacy.
I have always been a strong supporter of the Tea Party movement and in all honesty O’Donnell is the only Tea Party candidate that I have made any issue about and I resent catching all manner of flack just for a difference of opinion. I mean come on, it is not as if a lot of O’Donnell supporters have been all that open to criticism.
I also think people have been too hard on Rove, he is not lying about the woman, he is simply stating some facts that people do not want to hear. That will not help elect her.She needs to deal with this stuff and not just count on riding some red wave into office.
Terrye (3d4bc9) — 9/17/2010 @ 4:19 pmI’m not taking any offense at all Terrye.
I’m just saying… those loudmouths don’t deserve to spotlight all the time. It’s the fundamental flaw in the tea party (I think the tea party movement is wonderful, but here’s the major problem).
Dustin (b54cdc) — 9/17/2010 @ 4:37 pmDustin,
*What* is the fundamental flaw in the tea party? Rove isn’t a tea partier, and he’s a political analyst on Fox so they give him air time. And he analyzes. As he sees fit.
I think Terrye makes a good point – she supports the tea party, she/he supports O’Donnell but has concerns; is not an ideologue blindly following a movement but is using her/his brain and drawing reasonable conclusions. She/he also recognizes that Rove was stating facts and not misrepresenting O’Donnell. Since when do we not welcome facts?
All R’s should be able to look at the facts. We shouldn’t wilt, wither, or hope someone with a mic doesn’t bring them up. If there a problem, then O’Donnell needs to forthrightly address them and not dismissively refer people to a website.
Woman up, tell it straight, own it, and let the voters draw their own conclusions.
Dana (8ba2fb) — 9/17/2010 @ 4:49 pmI’m not confident about O’Donnell. Her background is tainted with instances of peculiar bits of dishonesty and flakiness. Those are traits I associate with leftists, so I’m not even very confident about O’Donnell’s ideology. For all I know, she could be a version of former Supreme Court Justice David Souter, or a stealth candidate (unfortunately appointed by Bush Sr) who turns out to be a closeted liberal.
I’d be less irked if Delaware were a rock-ribbed Republican state, but it’s not. So if O’Donnell’s ego and lack of tough-love assessment about herself ends up hurting the momentum in the upcoming election — to upturn the foolish liberalism that a majority of voters put into motion in November 2008 — then she’ll deserve a quick, hard kick out the back door.
Mark (411533) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:07 pmDana, the fundamental problem with the Tea Party is how, because it’s truly grass roots, various clowns can pretend to be a Tea Party leader and act unfortunately towards the rest of the Tea Party.
I wasn’t talking about Rove being a Tea Partier.
BTW, what you just did is an awesome example. Who told you Karl rove isn’t a Tea Partier? He’s a fan. He’s raising many millions in the toughest Tea Party fight (Angle v Reid). He’s a valid member of the movement. whoever told you Karl Rove isn’t good enough to be a Tea Partier had no right to say that. I may just be relying too much on my imagination with you in this case, since you may have simply misunderstood me (happens a lot, thanks to my communication skills).
But I have read a lot of people trying to pose as ‘the real tea party’. Tea Party Express is one example. Mark Levin is a perfect example. I’ve heard people claiming Glenn Beck isn’t really a Tea Partier today. Why not?
Anyway, I apologize if I misunderstood you, but the grassroots nature of the Tea Party, with no organization, means that people will perpetually be wearing a Tea Party banner while being ugly. Just look at this primary’s ugliness. My advice to Terrye is to not let the loudest voices define these elections.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:13 pmDustin:
Yeah, you are right. The loudmouths don’t deserve the limelight all the time.
Terrye (9d8507) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:21 pmDana:
My fear is that so much group think will take hold that if a guy like Rove appears less than enamored with someone, he will be passed off has hack, an establishment goon, a traitor, all sorts of things…just because he said something they did not want to hear.
It seems too rigid and kind of scary and I think that in and of itself might alienate a lot of people out there who want to get involved.
Terrye (9d8507) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:24 pmI guess I could be more succint.
This kind of insanity (a link to Riehl bashing Beck’s Tea Party affiliation) is a flaw in a completely grassroots organization, and the Tea Partiers shouting “STFU” to other Tea Partiers are trying to promote their personal interests at the expense of the general movement.
This kind of thing really turns off a lot of people, which over time, corrodes the movement. Better if we just adapt somehow to letting this stuff slide on by, ignored.
I have made a point to watch Beck’s show several times. Honesty, it’s a huge step forward intellectually. It’s not rocket science, but it’s actual arguments. Discussions about history. Actual food for thought about our country. Nothing is assumed, everything is explained. This is so much better, IMO, than what normally passes for TV punditry.
I think most have noticed the argument from a few folks: ‘you’re criticizing my conservative! Just shut up! He’s not liberal! You should only yell at them!’ They want marching orders, not homework. They want to ID the ‘bad guy’ and see cuss words directed at them.
Let’s deny them the credibility they haven’t earned. Lots of great people support O’Donnell.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:25 pmI don’t see Rove or Krauthammer or anyone else who voices their concerns re O’Donnell as loudmouths attempting to represent or define the elections. And that’s because today’s voters are more shrewd, read up on, and full informed about who they’re pulling the lever for. There may be mouthpieces but the existence of the Tea Party itself evidences voters are not dolts, not taking it laying down, and will indeed have their voice heard.
(Dustin, no apologies necessary but I might be misunderstanding your point a bit, too…we’ll chalk it up to end of the week tiredness.)
Dana (8ba2fb) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:26 pmThose guys are absolutely not the problem. I’m not talking about them. In fact, if you watch this video, it’s a great example of a good tea partier. Karl Rove says he’s a fan. He elevates many others as legit Tea Partiers. He’s not trying to be the leader, or boost himself with the movement. He’s trying to get Sharon Angle and others election.
Actions are his Tea Party language.
I posted a link to an example of the folks who should be ignored.
I suspect part of the reason I’m misunderstood is that I’m critical of how Rove discussed O’Donnell on the night she was elected. Everything he said was true, as far as I know, but constructive and hard criticism can be conveyed differently (as they are in this youtube video). Rove understands Primacy and Recency. It’s not his job to cheer-lead, and I think he fell slightly to his emotions. No big deal, IMO. I just think it wasn’t necessary to rattle off flaws in miffed tone, right at that election night, without seriously trying hard to frame that the way he does successfully in this later case.
Anyway, I complain about Rove, but he isn’t the problem I’m referring to now.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:35 pmDustin:
Sometimes Beck kind of turns me off. But then again, I don’t really like the emotionalism. One time I heard him call Teddy Roosevelt a thug for picking on Latinos and I kind of wondered about some of that history he was talking about. After all, what would Peurto Rico be today if not Roosevelt, probably another Cuba.
But that does not really matter. I just find myself getting out of sorts with the Limbaughs and Levins and Olbermanns and Malkins..it seems to me that so many of these people have an agenda of their own and they are using the times and peoples’ fears and insecurities to advance those agendas. And you know what? I think that creates division and paranoia, and that is not good for the country.
Terrye (9d8507) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:42 pmAs for Rove going on the night she was elected, would people have wanted to hear the next day or the day after? That right there is the problem….it is getting hard to even talk about things without people getting so damn bent out of shape. Whatever Rove said he was not anywhere near as hostile as Levin was for example.
Terrye (9d8507) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:43 pmHe’s a crybaby. And he’s so dramatic. It takes a heck of an ego to be the front man for that MLK event, too.
But he constitutes a big improvement anyway, over most FNC programs. Just my opinion. My real reaction is that someone telling him to go away has just cost their credibility. Tea Party is not an invitation only event, with the jerks in control.
What scares some of these ‘RINO hunters’ is that Karl Rove and friends probably are much more effective tea partiers than they are. Go figure… the same loudmouths who have been screaming for decades are still just as ineffective as ever. The great glory of being the outlaw and pure conservative is totally ruined when you start winning converts with filthy horrible normalcy.
Dustin (b54cdc) — 9/17/2010 @ 5:47 pmColonel just sent Bill O an email, JD. O’Relly use “mendacious” as his word of the day and Colonel sent correction of “mendouchious”.
ColonelHaiku (1546ed) — 9/17/2010 @ 6:23 pmOr maybe he messed up and is now backing down. Wait, no “maybe” about it, that’s what’s happening.
Jim Treacher (e041de) — 9/17/2010 @ 7:04 pmI don’t see it that way, Jim. I don’t think he said anything all that outrageous. (Of course, to back up my statement I would have to provide evidence that supports his statements about O’Donnell, and we’re all being unified, right?)
Patterico (c218bd) — 9/17/2010 @ 7:11 pmWhat the hell is wrong with you people? Rove won a couple of elections (against supremely bad opponents). He said some stupid stuff, and now he’s getting a well-deserved beating. Why is that such a problem? And Beck has done more to educate and animate people than all the conservative bloggers put together. Reading a bunch of anonymous basement-dwellers whine about him (and all the others, including Levin) leads one to wonder exactly what you would have done? YOU clearly aren’t doing anything, so why the bitching?
Greg (cea954) — 9/17/2010 @ 10:45 pmGreg (10:45 PM),
GB FL (1deedb) — 9/18/2010 @ 6:03 amTotally agree. I don’t know why Rove’s years as a paid political consultant should make him immune to criticism when he starts beating up Republican candidates.
if we want people tearing down our candidates, we’ll watch MSNBC and CNN, they have no pretense
ian cormac (6709ab) — 9/18/2010 @ 6:26 amabout what they are about. Inadvertently, he helped
Christine, in the short run, because he is a symbol
of the machiavellian strategies that were too clever
by half, because the left is always more underhanded