Patterico's Pontifications

5/31/2008

In Florida, We Must Count Every Vote, And Every Vote Must Count

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 4:47 pm

For half, that is.

ALTERNATE POST TITLE: “The 2.5-Fifths Compromise.”

NEW ALTERNATE POST TITLE: “The Less Than Three-Fifths Compromise.”

25 Comments

  1. if i can be only half a delegate, i wanna be the top half!

    Comment by assistant devil's advocate (98d257) — 5/31/2008 @ 6:09 pm

  2. there’s a 3/5 joke in there somewhere, but it would likely prove quite tasteless… :)

    Comment by Scott Jacobs (d3a6ec) — 5/31/2008 @ 7:03 pm

  3. Not even the dignity of three fifths.

    (How’s that?)

    Comment by Steven Den Beste (99cfa1) — 5/31/2008 @ 7:23 pm

  4. I like what they did for Michigan. Not only half-value, but the DNC decided how the delegates would be divided, and be damned to what the voters of Michigan might think about it.

    Comment by Steven Den Beste (99cfa1) — 5/31/2008 @ 7:24 pm

  5. I think McCain is right: Fairness demands that both Democrats be on the ballot. This vote splitting seems to indicate agreement with that.

    Comment by Kevin Murphy (805c5b) — 5/31/2008 @ 7:57 pm

  6. See, I thought he meant himself to be one of those two democrats… :)

    Comment by Scott Jacobs (d3a6ec) — 5/31/2008 @ 9:02 pm

  7. Further proof that we should saw along the Florida border and let it float out to sea, and allow Canada to annex Michigan and rule it with an iron fist.

    Comment by Leviticus (22eefa) — 6/1/2008 @ 5:56 am

  8. Leviticus,
    Didn’t see the /s on. Hope your were kidding…If we saw any part of my state off and let it float away,just cut across from the North Palm Beach line, thats were all the Democraps live.
    Hmmm just re-read your comment, obviously sarcastic, the phrase “Canada…iron fist.” gave it away.Sorry

    Comment by Paul from Fl (bacb61) — 6/1/2008 @ 6:01 am

  9. and allow Canada to annex Michigan and rule it with an iron fist

    Only if they promise to take Chicago too…

    Comment by Scott Jacobs (d3a6ec) — 6/1/2008 @ 6:32 am

  10. What did Hillary have with dinner last night? Three fifths.

    Crown Royal, if I’m not mistaken.

    Comment by Pablo (99243e) — 6/1/2008 @ 6:40 am

  11. #8 surely you jest. America would lose all those hopeful immigrants fron Cuba, Haiti, Mexico and Central America. Palm Beach needs all those gardeners and Salvadoran gang bangers plus I’m still here in Boca with all the blind mistakenly voted for Buchanan NY ex-pats.
    What’s north of Palm Beach?- see loads of rednecks around the big lake and Sebring…guns, god, nascar and fishing/golf.
    Need to find me a mountain aerie on the east coast not so susceptible to rising waters of the goracle’s AGW.
    Funny how libs and rinos won’t let us drill off the coast, but fine for Chicoms to drill for oil in the Caribbean. I like what that Venezuelan blogger calls oil and his website- the devil’s excrement.
    Florida gets the perpetual rap on gore wuz robbed in 2000, but the libs don’t talk about media calling it for gore before panhandle polls closed. And don’t bother looking into real Milwaukee or Chitown shenanigans. How many dead Philly denizens vote too?

    Comment by madmax333 (4a6663) — 6/1/2008 @ 7:18 am

  12. This is what the Republicans did on the front side. The Democrats made a ruling, then waffled, then tried to do something that would help them politically.

    The Republicans saw it coming, and penalized the states, but not by total withdrawal of the delegates. It was a more competent decision.

    –JRM

    Comment by JRM (355c21) — 6/1/2008 @ 7:58 am

  13. Steven Den Beste: the party rules in place at the time of the election said that the delegates would not be seated. Every candidate including Sen. Clinton promised to remove their name from the ballot; Sen. Clinton did not.

    I’d prefer that the delegates not be seated at all; making threats and then not carrying them out is one of the best ways to guarantee that future threats are ignored.

    But if they are, there’s no good reason to let Sen. Clinton profit from violating her promise.

    Comment by aphrael (db0b5a) — 6/1/2008 @ 9:31 am

  14. Patterico: and, sadly, Harold Ickes is indicating that Sen. Clinton’s campaign does not accept the results and will take the fight to the credentials committee.

    Comment by aphrael (db0b5a) — 6/1/2008 @ 9:32 am

  15. Aphrael, when I said, “I like”, imagine me with an evil smirk. That’s the kind of “like”.

    Comment by Steven Den Beste (99cfa1) — 6/1/2008 @ 11:37 am

  16. Aphrael:

    the party rules in place at the time of the election said that the delegates would not be seated. Every candidate including Sen. Clinton promised to remove their name from the ballot; Sen. Clinton did not.

    Got a link for that? My understanding is that while everyone was indeed in on the conspiracy to disenfranchise every state whose democratically elected government failed to kowtow to the party bosses’ rules, removing one’s name from the ballot was an unforced error on Obama’s part, not a part of the original deal.

    I’d prefer that the delegates not be seated at all; making threats and then not carrying them out is one of the best ways to guarantee that future threats are ignored.

    As well they should be. Who died and the DNC king? Either we let the states hold primaries whenever they want or we don’t, but if we don’t, it should up to Congress, not the political parties.

    Comment by Xrlq (62cad4) — 6/1/2008 @ 3:53 pm

  17. Patterico: and, sadly, Harold Ickes is indicating that Sen. Clinton’s campaign does not accept the results and will take the fight to the credentials committee.

    She won’t have to.

    Apparently by 9am Monday Morning, Larry Johnson is posting the video of Michelle ranting against whitey…

    When it really hits, no super deligate will get within 500 feet of Obama…

    Comment by Scott Jacobs (d3a6ec) — 6/1/2008 @ 6:50 pm

  18. I’m not so sure the video exists. He’s been claiming he’s had it for a while now, but it’s never surfaced. The other stuff on Obama has been around for years & before TUCC whitewashed their website was available there. Pfleger and Wright are old news to people who’ve been reading that website; what’s surprising is the media’s (a) incompetence at finding this stuff on a public website and (b) incompetence in figuring out exactly what was said by whom & on what date. Oh, and (c) credulity over Barry’s statement that “I was never there whenever something controversial was said. Just call me ‘Lucky.’”

    Comment by steve miller (7538f1) — 6/1/2008 @ 7:32 pm

  19. Larry Johnson is a nutcase. Who knows what “video” he’s been watching when off his meds? We’ll probably find out tomorrow that he cannot produce it because Karl Rove, whose mother killed herself out of shame for the son she bore, snuck into his house in the middle of the night and stole it.

    Comment by nk (6c75e0) — 6/1/2008 @ 7:48 pm

  20. When any blogger promises a really big story is coming, I get skeptical. When Larry Johnson says anything, I get equally skeptical. Put the two together, and…

    Comment by Xrlq (62cad4) — 6/1/2008 @ 8:14 pm

  21. Xrlq/16:

    My political law isn’t as sharp as it might be, but I believe the parties can select their candidates any way they want (we pick the palest guy whose name begins with “Z.”) The courts do not interfere with party business.

    The DNC, indeed, is king.

    –JRM

    Comment by JRM (355c21) — 6/1/2008 @ 11:27 pm

  22. Hardly. It would be nice if FL and MI would show the DNC who is really “king” by disaqualifying the Democrats from their ballot.

    Comment by Xrlq (62cad4) — 6/2/2008 @ 3:27 am

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