Weekend Open Thread
[guest post by Dana]
Let’s go!
First news item
Heh:
During a Thursday event announcing a deal with drugmaker Regeneron to lower the cost of its pharmaceutical products, Trump defended his past claims that prices on prescription medications had been cut by well over 100% — something that is mathematically impossible without manufacturers dropping prices to zero and then presumably paying consumers to use their product.
Trump acknowledged having boasted that his efforts to lower drug prices had reduced what consumers pay by “500%, 600%.” But he added, “We also sometimes say 50%, 60%” and called it a “different kind of calculation” that could go up to “70, 80 and 90%.”
“People understand that better,” Trump said. “But they’re two ways of calculating” and “either way, it doesn’t make any difference.”
There could indeed be two ways of calculating such things — but the difference is very important. One is correct. The other is nonmathematical.
Second news item
Trump’s son’s company awarded $24 million dollar Pentagon contract:
Eric Trump, the son of President Donald Trump and chief strategic officer of Foundation Industries, landed a $24 million Pentagon contract for its battlefield robotics project. . .
Users on social media were quick to show outrage over the comments, with some wondering if the company was the most qualified for a Pentagon deal, had it not been for Eric’s involvement.
Conflict of interest? Trading in on the Trump name? Awarding the president’s son the contract? Oh, not at all problematic. I mean have you heard Congress utter a peep about it?? Anyway, it’s not nearly as problematic to Republicans as when then-President Biden’s son Hunter sold two of his original artworks to a Democratic donor and Hollywood lawyer. Remember? Republicans insisted on an investigation into his art sales as a result.
Third news item
Taxpayer bailout in the works:
President Trump said Thursday that he was weighing a taxpayer-funded takeover of Spirit Airlines with the intent of reselling the struggling budget carrier after oil prices drop.
The president confirmed his continued interest in offering Spirit a financial lifeline after a lawyer told a U.S. Bankruptcy Court that the airline was in advanced talks with the U.S. government on a financing deal that would allow Spirit to emerge from Chapter 11 protection.
“They have some good aircraft and good assets, and when the prices of oil goes down, we’ll sell it for a profit,” Mr. Trump said, speaking at an unrelated Oval Office event. “I’d love to be able to save those jobs. I’d love to be able to save an airline.”
“And we’re looking, if we could get it for the right price, I’d do it to save the jobs,” the president said.
Fourth news item
I have ordered the United States Navy to shoot and kill any boat, small boats though they may be (Their naval ships are ALL, 159 of them, at the bottom of the sea!), that is putting mines in the waters of the Strait of Hormuz. There is to be no hesitation. Additionally, our mine “sweepers” are clearing the Strait right now. I am hereby ordering that activity to continue, but at a tripled up level! Thank you for your attention to this matter. President DONALD J. TRUMP
Have a great weekend.
—Dana



Hello.
Dana (6308fe) — 4/24/2026 @ 8:57 amFrom the previous Open Thread:
DOJ drops criminal investigation into Fed Chair Jerome Powell.
1) Trump folds.
Rip Murdock (e01e6e) — 4/24/2026 @ 9:30 am2) Thom Tillis shows the power of one.
First, Lutnick lied about his cutting ties from Epstein. Then in testimony, he lied about Trump Gold Card sales…
And then he lied about his kids cashing in on tariff refund rights (see the Community Note).
He’s the perfect Commerce Secretary for Trump.
Paul Montagu (b480c1) — 4/24/2026 @ 9:52 amI disagree with this.
At best it’s corporate welfare, at worst it’s one step closer to nationalizing the industry to begins the conversion from The United States of America to the People’s Republic of America.
whembly (34b6ae) — 4/24/2026 @ 9:52 amAgree with Wembly
Time123 (cd4b7a) — 4/24/2026 @ 10:26 amIt’s weird how so many of the people surrounding Donald Trump turn out to be crooked and amoral.
Radegunda (cb1918) — 4/24/2026 @ 10:30 am6,
It’s a feature, not a bug. The last rhing someone like Trump wants around him is an honest broker.
Dana (55f4e2) — 4/24/2026 @ 11:05 amOr ppl who take notes.
Time123 (1c7926) — 4/24/2026 @ 11:06 amI don’t see much difference between “corporate welfare” and a taxpayer bailout. But there is a difference between the government lending money to the airlines (with the approval of Congress) as was done after 9-11 and during COVID, and an arbitrary presidential decision to take an equity stake in return for support. But under the current administration that horse left the barn a long time ago.
This will encourage the government to take more equity stakes in US companies:
Rip Murdock (e01e6e) — 4/24/2026 @ 11:25 am@7
Hold on…
When are politicians ever “an honest broker”?
whembly (34b6ae) — 4/24/2026 @ 11:43 amSome are worse then others in different things. Trump is by far the most corrupt of the modern era.
Time123 (64dcb8) — 4/24/2026 @ 11:47 amI’m reading that Jared Kushner has been dispatched to negotiate with Iran. I wonder how big an investment their sovereign wealth fund will end up making in his “investment business”. KSA put in billions.
Time123 (1c7926) — 4/24/2026 @ 12:26 pmKushner and Witkoff, this time without J D Vance.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 12:56 pmwhembly, folks here aren’t upset about corruption. They’re just upset the corruption is by Trump instead of against him.
lloyd (19b352) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:05 pmIs the firm saying zero, but there is evidence of one that went through?
I don’t think the father’s statements were given any weight by the people who sold their rights.
It is possible that the sons knew the administration would probably give in at that point and issue refunds if they lost the case in the Supreme Court, rather than arguing against refunds.
Family members are not covered by ethics rules because they have aright to an independent existence
What I remember about Howard Lutnick is that his brother was killed on September 11, 2001 (and most of his employees) He survived because he came late because he was driving his son to the first day of kindergarten.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:06 pmWhat is not true? Did they make the trades, or just one of them or none?
We have a problem here. It would be easy for a hedge fund manager to see the potential here. Should it be illegal to buy the rights, or maybe to offer less than 1/3 the recovery?
I don’t think this could even be called “honest graft.”
But they could be giving bad advice to the people they bought the rights from. (or didn’t buy them in the end.)
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:13 pmThis looks bad, because it looks like political interference with an investigation.
But the investigation looks like it was created by political interference in the first place.
In 2017 this was “solved” by appointing a special counsel.
This would not work here. You can’t take two years to resolve this.
One thing to note: The Democrats are claiming hat Trump wanted to pressure Jerome Powell to lower interest rates – which they also wanted (except maybe very close to an election) They disguise this by using generalities to describe it.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:20 pmWhat’s holding up the issuance of the gold cards is Trump’s policy of “extreme vetting.”
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:24 pmRe: Lowering the cost of its pharmaceutical products/
What’s the issue here is that they still can cost much more than generics, and people may not know about that possibility where it exists.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:27 pmHunter Biden may not be living in South Africa (full time) after all.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:29 pmAccording to the Acting Attorney General, Americans should be “happy” that Trump is deeply involved in the Department of Justice:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:37 pmBuying up possible government debt was an issue in the First Congress, but Alexander Hamilton was not accused of having a close connection to people who bought up debt of the United States (maybe nobody investigated or thought to look for a connection)
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:37 pmwhembly, folks here aren’t upset about corruption. They’re just upset the corruption is by Trump instead of against him.
lloyd (19b352) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:05 pm
Do you really believe that, lloyd?
norcal (671a59) — 4/24/2026 @ 1:57 pmThere’s no saving the SAVE Act:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/24/2026 @ 2:04 pm…………
I want to commend President Trump for this new policy, and for the example he is setting for some in his Cabinet: https://x.com/joncoopertweets/status/2047669617292665297
Jim Miller (5712e1) — 4/24/2026 @ 2:05 pmUnlikely:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/24/2026 @ 2:10 pm“If it is true, the 2020 Presidential Election should be permanently wiped from the books and be of no further force or effect!” he said.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/24/2026 @ 2:10 pm
With each passing day, he becomes more of a laughingstock.
norcal (32a7ed) — 4/24/2026 @ 2:26 pmIs Trump accusing the SPLC of causing him to lose the election? (I think that’s based on the idea that they created the Charlottsville “Unite the Right” rally in 2017 which was the basis of some of Biden’s campaign)
https://nypost.com/2026/04/22/us-news/southern-poverty-law-center-accused-of-secretly-paying-ex-kkk-imperial-wizard-as-informant
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 2:26 pmhttps://www.wsj.com/opinion/southern-poverty-law-center-indictment-justice-department-charlottesville-32c24e68
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 2:41 pmThe SPLC cannot be blamed for the Unite the Right rally.
But some of this could day into what the Czarist secret police did
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 2:44 pm., although no where near as close.
could play into
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/24/2026 @ 2:44 pmReally?
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/24/2026 @ 3:02 pmHe cited it as a specific reason he decided to run for president.
Dave (72009e) — 4/24/2026 @ 3:30 pmUmmm-Sammy said the Unite the Right rally was the “basis” of Biden’s campaign.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/24/2026 @ 3:34 pmSammy said it was “the basis of some of Biden’s campaign”. Some.
That “some” could be a specific reason he ran for President.
norcal (32a7ed) — 4/24/2026 @ 3:40 pmI think it was more Trump and the rest of MAGA defending and justifying the naked racism on display there. Nice thing is that now ppl like Rob can admit that it was racist.
Time123 (292f57) — 4/24/2026 @ 3:40 pmIn a 128-page July 2025 opinion, a District Court ruled that Trump’s executive order banning asylum applications violated the law:
(The attempt by President Biden near the end of his term to re-write the asylum state by executive order had been ruled unlawful several months before that.)
Now the Appeals Court has upheld the District Court ruling:
Even the partial dissenting opinion (by a Trump appointee) begins:
Dave (72009e) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:01 pmIn a unanimous ruling, an 11th Circuit Court of Appeals panel has overturned an $8.2 million judgement in favor of former Governor Roy Moore against the Senate Majority PAC.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:06 pmI thought Sammy’s comment was quite clear.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:07 pmDave (72009e) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:01 pm
Trump would rather have the short-term headline, even if the courts eventually rule that what Trump did was wrong.
Getting Congress to change the immigration laws is the better, and lasting, answer, but Trump prefers to hurl insults than negotiate/persuade.
The WWE crowd and its ilk just eat that up.
norcal (32a7ed) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:14 pmThis SPLC comment was in the wrong thread…
One caveat to my earlier comments about SPLC.
If SPLC was using these informants to take down the racist organizations in question, then no big deal. Actually, good. Slumdog Hoover should approve those actions, not indict ’em for it.
However, if they were paying these racists to maintain and/or grow their racist operations, for purposes of getting more fundraising dollars, then SPLC should be shut down, for moral reasons at minimum.
SPLC is claiming the former, but we’ll see. As I said, this DOJ has lost their Presumption of Regularity under Trump, so they better produce evidence to back up their charges, which they’d have to do in court anyways.
Paul Montagu (b480c1) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:19 pmLaura Loomer’s defamation lawsuit against Bill Mahar has been summarily dismissed:
From the opinion:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:26 pmhappyfeet hardest-hit!
Dave (72009e) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:38 pmThree (the above two cases and Kash Patel’s lawsuit dismissal against Frank Figliuzzi) victories in one week for free speech. I expect the same result for Patel’s lawsuit against The Atlantic.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:49 pmHilarious seeing Dave and norcal pretend there’s still a border problem. A victory in court (pending SCOTUS reversal) thanks to Obama/Autopen judges is like a garbage time dunk when you’re down by thirty.
lloyd (c03e6e) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:51 pmSo lloyd, do you approve of “solving” the border problem by violating the law?
Yes or no, please.
Dave (72009e) — 4/24/2026 @ 4:54 pmNo, Dave. That policy did not “solve” the border problem, nor is it illegal, but thanks for playing.
Are the many district court rulings that have been overturned illegal? Are they examples of judicial lawlessness? Yes or no, please.
lloyd (c03e6e) — 4/24/2026 @ 5:00 pmPerhaps, but happyfeet was the site’s last likeable (even endearing) Trump supporter, and unfortunately the Roy Moore situation ultimately led to his downfall.
Dave (72009e) — 4/24/2026 @ 5:05 pmI’ll need specific cases to comment on them.
If you’re referring to Aileen Cannon’s attempt to shield Trump, then absolutely yes. But she is a rare, openly-corrupt judge.
Dave (72009e) — 4/24/2026 @ 5:11 pmDave doesn’t want to answer. LOL
lloyd (c03e6e) — 4/24/2026 @ 5:15 pmYou asked my opinion on unspecified cases. How can I give a responsive answer?
I’m not sure there have been so many “district court rulings that have been overturned” as you want to suggest, either.
Some – including the asylum case I cited – have been stayed without a final decision on the merits.
The tariff cases, citizenship cases, and now the asylum case have all been upheld by Appeals Courts. The Supremes body-slammed tariffs and look set to do the same on citizenship.
Dave (72009e) — 4/24/2026 @ 5:27 pmLOL Dave. Now you’re quibbling about whether “many” applies. I’ll gladly ignore your questions in the future.
lloyd (c03e6e) — 4/24/2026 @ 5:40 pmAs soon as you tell me which cases we’re talking about, we’ll be able to see just how many there are.
Right now, since – despite my repeated requests – you haven’t mentioned a single one, there are zero.
Dave (c3bb05) — 4/24/2026 @ 5:42 pmDon’t worry, Dave. There are plenty of folks here who will defend your BS.
lloyd (c03e6e) — 4/24/2026 @ 5:50 pmLloyd, Dave’s proven repeatedly that he’s willing to get deep into the details of an issue. If there’s a case you disagree with he’s the guy to hammer it out with. You should take him up on his offer if you have anything specific to talk about.
Time123 (64dcb8) — 4/24/2026 @ 6:07 pmCase in point.
lloyd (c03e6e) — 4/24/2026 @ 6:09 pmHow could anyone possibly answer this without reference to specific cases?
I’ve asked three times and he refuses to say which ones he’s referring to.
Dave (c3bb05) — 4/24/2026 @ 6:14 pmIt would be funny, Dave, if it wasn’t so pathetic. Well no, it’s funny.
lloyd (c03e6e) — 4/24/2026 @ 6:20 pmTrump could’ve avoided his half-baked invasion that cost us control of Hormuz if he’d only hashed out the deal.
This was still a negotiation, where we could’ve insisted on pervasive inspection protocols. Uranium at 5% enrichment isn’t a threat. Instead, Trump went glandular and went in half-cocked.
Paul Montagu (8e63e1) — 4/24/2026 @ 6:25 pmAll you’re displaying is how bad faith you are, lloyd. It’s practically diseased.
Paul Montagu (8e63e1) — 4/24/2026 @ 6:27 pmLike I said.
lloyd (c03e6e) — 4/24/2026 @ 6:33 pmDave, sometimes when ppl can’t answer questions about specifics it’s because they don’t have any. Their statement aren’t based on any reasoned conclusion after a review of recent data. It’s based on a bitterness and headlines they doesn’t understand but believe because of confirmation bias.
Other times they’re just not that bright.
Time123 (64dcb8) — 4/24/2026 @ 6:49 pmRIP, Loomer joins a long line of Maga types whose defamation cases have gone nowhere.
Time123 (64dcb8) — 4/24/2026 @ 6:50 pm62, Or, those people sneeringly dismissed as “not that bright” are far brighter in a macro sense.
But they base opinions on values, not some sterile MBA school “specifics” or cherry-picked “data,” not relevant to certain questions.
It does not matter how may “specifics” one has about the detention of American citizens in camps in WWII, because its fundamentally wrong. Like suppression of speech and theft.
Or endless cheap-seat, faculty lounge (that would be Dave), quibbling about a man’s tie, his diet, or his tendency to hyperbole, versus the major overarching issues relating to the fiscal and legal stability and future of the US.
Or some utopian view that the US is obligated to spend itself into bankruptcy to develop “soft power,” in some foreign hell hole, while absorbing more and more debt.
The judicial system has veered sharply off course in many instances: if you and Dave can’t identify them w/o a list to slog through, perhaps you need to read more. The Colo Supreme court, laden with Harvard grads, actually thought it was entitled to excise a federal candidate from the ballot. Since nothing says democracy like a small court in a marginal state deciding who you can vote for. Or a federal court deciding to oversee ICE in Chicago (reversed). Or a NY trial judge deciding to fine a man $475 million for repaying a loan on time (award vacated by appellate division as unconstitutional). etc. No one with a grasp pf trends, issues and values need “specific cases” to decide that the judiciary has become untethered from core principles.
A side that always needs more “data” and “specifics” instead of triangulating with values and core principles, is perhaps the side that is not that bright. You are bright: please do better.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (bc8284) — 4/24/2026 @ 9:51 pmNot worth it, HFM.
If these folks haven’t upgraded beyond zune or palm pilot, that would explain why they can’t do the simplest AI or google query which yields this:
(which includes a helpful link, which I’m not including)
Of course, they’re perfectly capable of doing this themselves, but they’re not bright enough to come up with a better excuse for why they won’t. They’d rather look dishonest and be dishonest.
lloyd (491c4b) — 4/24/2026 @ 10:22 pm@HFM We’ve spent hundreds of times more and gotten less on our various wars in the middle east than we have in the entire history of USAID. We somehow always have money for war though.
nic (120c94) — 4/25/2026 @ 12:14 amCurrent spending on the Iran war is estimated to be between 30 and 50 billion, with no end in sight.
Annual Foreign aid is 70 billion globally.
Seems like soft power may be a way to spend less money in the long run.
Time123 (0273bb) — 4/25/2026 @ 3:46 amA side that always needs more “data” and “specifics” instead of triangulating with values and core principles, is perhaps the side that is not that bright. You are bright: please do better.
1. Can’t reason a man out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into. If your position is based on vibes it’s pretty much unassailable.
Time123 (0273bb) — 4/25/2026 @ 3:50 am2. MAGA openly contemptuous of even the idea of principles. It would be interesting to hear what principles you think they value more than winning in the moment.
@68 They value existence more. Once trump is dispatched to the garbage can of history, what is to be done with trumpsters. We need a new version of lenin’s what is to be done with trumpsters. Should they be allowed to vote? Should their citizenship be taken away for sedition like the republicans want to do to Mamdani and other trump critics?Should they be sent for re-education on what it means to be an American?
asset (c708b6) — 4/25/2026 @ 4:51 amFunny you should ask.
Trump Administration Approves Firing Squad Executions for Death Penalty (gift link)
Dave (0168b2) — 4/25/2026 @ 5:42 amPoor Dave. Crooks let him down.
lloyd (491c4b) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:37 amThe NYT has a lengthy piece on 27-year-old Sam Samson, a State Department senior advisor at their Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labor.
The common thread is that this right-wing ideologue has had multiple meetings with pro-Russian right-wingers such as AfD, Nigel Farage, Marie Le Pen and of course the Orban administration. There’s a legitimate argument that European countries have infringed on free speech rights, but the dissonance and hypocrisy is fairly stunning because these right-wing MAGAs support a Putin regime that has shut down all First Amendment rights, the latest action being Putin’s shutdown of Telegram and other social media.
Paul Montagu (089691) — 4/25/2026 @ 9:15 amSays the guy who voted for the p*ssy-grabber with 34 felony convictions…
Dave (0168b2) — 4/25/2026 @ 9:39 amHow does our DOJ National Security Division improve when they cut staff by 38%?
How does our law enforcement improve when the Trump DOJ has cut 4,000 federal law enforcement jobs and has left 7,000 jobs unfilled?
Paul Montagu (089691) — 4/25/2026 @ 10:13 am66, No one likes war. Young people die, people get legs blown off, money is diverted to useless war devices, and things that were built with sweat and sacrifice of millions are destroyed.
But when clerical fascists that despise the world, endorse suicide vests, and stone people are on the verge of getting a nuclear weapon.. .and long-range delivery capacity, what is the choice? Wait? Until its another NoKo? And tell our kids in 2030 “sorry, but we thought it was better to wait.”?
I just don’t see another choice. This is safety, versus an AIDS clinic in Uganda that one of the other 200 countries in the world can pay for while we do the heavy lifting.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (bc8284) — 4/25/2026 @ 10:19 am69, asset, — obviously all of those and more!
The very idea of electing people to cut the size of the government! Who do they think they are? Voters?
And the idiocy of ending USAID’s billions to foreign AIDS clinics, DC based employees, NGO’s and consultants!
Of trying to end federal support for CA’s money pit called the “Bullet Train!”
And the idea of demolishing narco boats on the high seas instead of endlessly petitioning narco governments to stop sending drugs here! Why can’t they engage in interminable useless petitioning while Americans die from dugs like we were doing before?
And tilting the Pentagon from DEI to lethality, sealing the border, and imposing tariffs that provide a “safe space” for US manufacturers–like we had for the first 150 years. Positively un American!
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (bc8284) — 4/25/2026 @ 10:31 amDemocrats deporting the criminals first LOL
Soros DA Hides Docs On Migrants Getting Legal Help In ‘Sketchy’ Move
lloyd (9364dd) — 4/25/2026 @ 11:30 amIf you’re a newly minted US citizen but have the wrong skin color and come from the wrong country, you too could have the feds come after you, facing citizenship revocation. This smells like a Stephen Miller operation, given the perverse incentives.
The DOJ picked 384 citizens for citizenship-stripping, this after the INS had already vetted them.
Trump already said he’s going after the Somalis.
Paul Montagu (089691) — 4/25/2026 @ 11:32 amThat was then:
This is now:
Rip Murdock (e01e6e) — 4/25/2026 @ 11:37 amYou’re right, Dave. Murdering folks you disagree with isn’t as bad as voting for folks you don’t like.
Get
lloyd (9364dd) — 4/25/2026 @ 11:44 amProfessional
Help
Trump’s blockade doesn’t apply to Putin’s pet oligarchs.
There was a time after Putin’s 2022 Big Escalation when we simply took those superyachts.
Paul Montagu (089691) — 4/25/2026 @ 12:08 pmPaul’s upset we are finally prosecuting immigration fraud. He’d be much happier with immigration fraud and inviting people who hate us to break our laws and steal from citizens.
NJRob (2142ad) — 4/25/2026 @ 12:28 pmExcept I haven’t murdered anyone.
But you have made a p*ssy-grabber with 34 felony convictions King.
Dave (0168b2) — 4/25/2026 @ 1:04 pmhttps://nypost.com/2026/04/24/opinion/hasan-pikers-cool-crimes-claim-exposes-the-lefts-toxic-rage/
The toxic left showing their cards. Just like Bill Ayers the left tells you what they are.
NJRob (2142ad) — 4/25/2026 @ 1:13 pmAs they say, mindreading is an intellectually lazy and dishonest practice, which ain’t a surprise since you’re a dishonest hack. What part of Stephen Miller’s 200-a-month quota system do you not comprehend?
Paul Montagu (089691) — 4/25/2026 @ 1:22 pmDave, I take it back. You’ve only suggested murdering folks you disagree with.
lloyd (9364dd) — 4/25/2026 @ 1:40 pm“according to an official familiar with the announcement who was not authorized to describe it on the record”
lloyd (9364dd) — 4/25/2026 @ 1:45 pmYou’re misattributing, son. That number came from a Trump document, reported last December.
Paul Montagu (089691) — 4/25/2026 @ 2:35 pmThe Senate rejected on Thursday an attempt to attach a version of SAVE Act to the reconciliation bill that is intended to fund DHS:
Sen. McConnell as chair of the Senate Rules Committee would have been in charge of implementing Kennedy’s amendment had it passed.
Meanwhile, President Trump hasn’t kept his promise to not sign any legislation until the SAVE Act is passed. Since March 8th, he has signed:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 4:18 pmPresident Trump and staff evacuated from White House Correspondents Dinner due to unknown security incident.
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 5:54 pmMore</
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:06 pmFringe chatterbox Hasan Piker’s remarks romanticizing theft deserve condemnation.
But which party put a man with 34 felony convictions who brags about committing sexual assault and peeping at naked young girls in the White House, Rob?
Dave (0168b2) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:06 pmDave, your whatabouting is noted.
As is your attempt to deflect or deny anytime a leftist says what they truly are.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:18 pmWho has greater potential to cause harm Rob?
a) a fringe nutcase with a podcast
b) the chief law enforcement officer and commander in chief of the US military
Why do you hold a) to a higher standard than b), Rob?
Dave (0168b2) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:25 pmNYT:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:30 pmNYT
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:34 pmNYT:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:36 pmNYT:
Seems very odd.
Dave (0168b2) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:38 pmSecret Service fail:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:39 pmKaroline Leavitt tells FoxNews that “there will be some shots fired tonight”…
Dave (0168b2) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:41 pmNYT
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:48 pmThe Washington Hilton is the same hotel where President Reagan was shot.
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:51 pmNYT:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:55 pmThe VP and a high percentage of the cabinet was in attendance, including Defense, Treasury, the Acting AG, FBI Director, HHS.
Trump’s speech was apparently planned to be a massive attack on the press.
Dave (0168b2) — 4/25/2026 @ 6:57 pmConsidering just a short while ago another of your leftist nutcases tried to murder Trump, your remarks disprove themselves
NJRob (eb56c3) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:00 pmPresident Trump is scheduled to hold a news conference at 7:15 PDT.
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:03 pmAnd the Democrats in Congress have refused to fund the Secret Service for 70.days. They are co-conspirators.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:05 pmThere are no reports anyone, except possibly the subject in custody, was harmed tonight, or that anyone tried to murder anyone, so your remarks have no basis in fact.
As usual.
Dave (0168b2) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:07 pmYou are delusional as usual. Your constant excuses and support for these leftist lunatics shows you as a sympathizer or supporter.
You own this
NJRob (eb56c3) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:11 pmCBS:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:23 pmCBS:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:26 pmSubject is said to be a 30-year old from California.
A Secret Service agent was shot in their protective gear and hospitalized. He is expected to survive.
Dave (d05344) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:27 pm108, NJRob: Dave is going to need endless therapy to handle the unwashed voters rejection of his “Faculty Lounge endorsed” candidate and her policies. It just can’t penetrate his kevlar brain shield that the voters are more sensible and discerning that he is.
And as for defying reality: look at his 109: “there are no reports…that anyone tried to murder anyone…” Q: to Dave: so you think the shooter was trying to find his way to an NRA meeting?
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (bc8284) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:33 pmIts really hard to kill the anti-christ if you watch the movies.
asset (74131e) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:34 pmNYT:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:36 pmNYT:
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Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:38 pmAt the time I posted, there was no confirmation that the person in custody was armed.
Dave (d05344) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:40 pmNYT:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:41 pmThe suspect.
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:45 pmNY Post:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:52 pmNYT:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:57 pmCNN reporting the suspect studied engineering at CalTech.
Wolf Blitzer – who was apparently an eye-witness to the gun-play – mentioned the suspect’s weapon as looking very large.
Dave (d05344) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:58 pmMemo for future presidents: don’t go to an event at the Washington Hilton.
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 7:59 pmNYT:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 8:01 pmCole Tomas Allen, 31, of Torrance, Calif.
Dave (d05344) — 4/25/2026 @ 8:02 pmNYT:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 8:19 pmNYT:
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 8:21 pmNYT:
I would debate that point.
Rip Murdock (bce624) — 4/25/2026 @ 8:24 pmAnother let down for Dave.
lloyd (3edfac) — 4/25/2026 @ 8:27 pmThe guy was neutralized within a few feet of the outer perimeter.
Dave (d05344) — 4/25/2026 @ 8:34 pmSo what? He shouldn’t have even been there. Based on the information from the WHCA volunteer, someone f**ked up. The SS should have done background checks on the guests staying there. The entire hotel should have been locked down before the event. And if that was inconvenient for the hotel, they shouldn’t have accepted the contract.
Rip Murdock (3f045c) — 4/25/2026 @ 8:43 pmThe idea of a perimeter is that you choose an area and secure the interior. Anything outside is not secure. He was under pursuit and likely already under fire as he entered the perimeter.
And a background check on the shooter would have revealed…?
There was no need to secure the entire hotel; it likely would have been counter-productive by spreading security resources thinner.
Dave (d05344) — 4/25/2026 @ 9:40 pmHere’s a floorplan for the Washington Hilton, showing the International Ballroom where the dinner was held. From looking at photos and reading news accounts:
The magnetometers were one floor up, on the Terrace Level, likely in the area labeled “Terrace Foyer”. The red carpet appears to have been in the area labeled “International Terrace”, which was after the magnetometers.
Wolf Blitzer said people who needed to use the restrooms were escorted upstairs, and he would have been outside the restrooms near “International Terrace” on the map when he witnessed the gunplay.
Pictures of these officers, and this guy, have appeared frequently. They are in Concourse Level Foyer with the elevators; the woman at right is aiming up the escalator to the Terrace Level where the shooting took place.
This area would have likely been off-limits to guests and used as the route to evacuate the President and VIPs at the front of the ballroom using the “President’s Walk” from the stage.
Dave (d05344) — 4/25/2026 @ 11:00 pmMore detective work…
This video shows the suspect running through the magnetometers on the International Terrace.
The set of three double doors at the right of the video is a unique arrangement, and exactly matches the set between “International Foyer” (on the other side of the doors) and “International Terrace” (which the video shows) on the map.
The suspect runs from left-to-right in the video, which corresponds to moving east-to-west on the map. The camera is located near the restrooms, and looking toward the elevator.
The magnetometers are across the hallway to the left (coming from the elevators), roughly even with the “L” in “International Terrace” on the map.
Dave (d05344) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:11 amThis video shows the same area, with the hallway from the elevator passing through the magnetometers. Due to the pillar, only two of the three double doors are visible. The restrooms are behind the camera and the suspect is lying on the ground below the second “T” in “International Terrace” on the map.
Dave (d05344) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:22 amThis link lets you explore the Terrace Level of the Washington Hilton.
From the starting point, go straight ahead through the elevator lobby, turn left, and you will be about where the magnetometers were. Keep walking to where the restrooms are, and you’ll be near the location where the two videos linked above were shot.
Take the stairs down, and you’ll be in the International Ballroom…
Dave (d05344) — 4/26/2026 @ 1:02 amMy take.
One, the Secret Service did its job. The guy was caught at the outer perimeter.
Two, worship or detest the guy, he’s the president. He represents the Office of the President and our country, so an attempted attack or assassination of this guy is an attack on the Office and our American constitutional republic. Such an act is always fully condemnable, and the shooter deserves to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
Three, Trump didn’t comment afterward to complain about funding for the Secret Service (which looked fully staffed) but instead took the opportunity to sell his ballroom.
Paul Montagu (f4d691) — 4/26/2026 @ 6:53 amFifty years ago today ……….
More
Rip Murdock (621b5f) — 4/26/2026 @ 7:13 amAshley St. Clair on makeup and how Trump’s MAGA messaging (such as his ballroom campaign) spreads to the MAGA masses. Example here.
Paul Montagu (f4d691) — 4/26/2026 @ 7:14 amActually fifty years ago yesterday…….
Rip Murdock (621b5f) — 4/26/2026 @ 7:15 amAn update on Donald’s TrumpPhone scam…
Paul Montagu (f4d691) — 4/26/2026 @ 7:44 amSeems like MAGAs didn’t check the numbers before launching their Big Ballroom messaging blitz.
Copilot said that Trump’s Big Ballroom capacity is “up to 900” and that the 2026 WHCD “drew more than 2,000 attendees”. Sure enough.
Paul Montagu (f4d691) — 4/26/2026 @ 8:35 amCNN:
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 8:41 amIt’s also not a state function.
This is the first such event Trump has attended in either of his two terms.
Can you imagine him volunteering to let “the enemies of the people” use the White House for their event?
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 8:46 amDon’t worry – wave #2 will be “The Ballroom must be biggerer!”
#trumpwasrightabouteverything
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 8:58 am93, Dave- seeking to distance himself from Piker by calling him “fringe.”
Reality: Piker has millions of followers, stumps for Dem candidates, Mamdani sat for an interview with him, and he is perceived by many as a worrisome representative of the far left dominating the Dem party. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/28/hasan-piker-democrats-midterms-2028-00849453
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (bc8284) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:04 am129, Rip-
For sure.
(1) the guy should never have been able to enter a hallway from which he was able to sprint as he did: should have been agent checkpoints or monitoring points way before the “outer perimeter;
(2), Video shows a lone SS agent, relaxed, and standing near a table as the guy runs up and through the gap between tables: the SS agent seemingly moves aside to let the running man guy pass! But then he recovers quickly and pulls his weapon. But should not have been standing about as if he was a lone security guard at a garden party for elderly women. And should have blocked the guy or tackled him, not moved aside;
(3) agents evidently shot at the guy at what looks like a distance of no more than 20-25 feet; -and all missed.
A bit reminiscent of efforts to penetrating the WH in the Obama era. One guy actually made it inside after SS failed to stop him outside.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (bc8284) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:21 am– unmarried
– incel
– donated to Kamala’s campaign
– school nerf club
yeah, checks out.
The screening of hotel guests failed miserably.
lloyd (3c7c98) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:26 amFor a big enough fee, yes.
Paul Montagu (f4d691) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:27 amDave, who upthread suggested murder for Trump supporters….
Impeccable timing.
lloyd (3c7c98) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:29 amnk isn’t here to inform us it was just firecrackers.
lloyd (3c7c98) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:31 amI had never heard of the guy until Friday, when Allahpundit did a fascinating hit piece on him:
Dark Woke: On Hasan Piker and Trumpism (gift link)
Read the whole thing…
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:43 amNY Post:
Rip Murdock (621b5f) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:46 amHere’s how Hamas abuses Gazans and gets away with it. Too bad there’s a ceasefire, because I got no problem with Bibi finishing the job and wiping the terrorists off the face of the earth.
Paul Montagu (f4d691) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:46 am@154
Sounds amazing like someone who comments here.
lloyd (3c7c98) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:50 amI wasn’t aware that you consider capital punishment by the federal government murder, lloyd.
Any other areas of secret agreement with Joe Biden that you haven’t told us about?
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:53 amHere’s yet another example of Trump and his complete abdication of making moral distinctions, to the point of betraying Ukraine and their rightful defense and helping the invading Russian authoritarian terrorist regime, because he has a crush on an evil guy like Putin.
Ukraine is defending itself from an immoral wrongful terrorist invasion.
Paul Montagu (f4d691) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:59 amChairman Xi is actively assisting a belligerent terrorist regime that exports terrorism to other terrorist outfits.
The fact that he specifically exempts Patel, of all people, is remarkable.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 10:00 amMr. Allen wasn’t administering capital punishment. Nor was Crooks. Dave, you’re just confused.
lloyd (3c7c98) — 4/26/2026 @ 10:00 amKeep those sick takes coming, Dave. You’re on a roll.
lloyd (3c7c98) — 4/26/2026 @ 10:05 amNo, you are (I don’t think you’re actually confused, of course; you’re just lying again).
My comment upthread noted that a new method of capital punishment was being sanctioned by His Majesty.
It could only be murder if capital punishment is murder.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 10:11 amIt’s pretty clear tell that Allen was a fan/listener of his, don’t you think?
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 10:14 amI’ll leave it to the precious few unbiased observers here to decide who’s lying, Ly’in Dave.
lloyd (3c7c98) — 4/26/2026 @ 10:23 amLooks like I was talking about the death penalty, doesn’t it?
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 10:30 amFor the capital crime of being a “trumpster”.
Feel free to clarify further, Dave. This is your opportunity. How much more dancing around do you intend to do?
lloyd (3c7c98) — 4/26/2026 @ 10:37 amLooks like the shooter identified the same security vulnerability.
If there isn’t enough security personnel between the DC Police, Park Service Police, Capitol Police, FBI, Secret Service, the Diplomatic Security, etc., bring in outside law enforcement agencies. There’s also the DC National Guard.
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 11:06 amThere is little doubt that Trump and his conspirators will try to steal the 2026 and 2028 elections, using fraud and violence as they did in 2020.
It will be up to Attorney General Jack Smith to decide which crimes people are charged with, and the appropriate penalties.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 11:12 amHave to say lloyd’s got you on this one. Your reference to the death penalty is a direct response to asset’s comment. Tough to weasel out this-it was pretty obvious.
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 11:12 amLOL!
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 11:13 amThe shooter misunderstood, just as you seem to. The so-called “vulnerability” he imagined wasn’t real.
He who defends everything defends nothing.
Trump and his lackeys travel constantly, day in, day out, going to parties, UFC fights, and it already costs a fortune.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 11:27 amSo what?
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 11:36 amMaybe obvious to a lazy mind. I’m not weaseling out of anything.
Who imposes the death penalty?
The government, under law. If so, it’s not murder.
Trump and his people are crooks, and some have already been convicted of seditious conspiracy and other violent felonies. Capital felony murder charges could – and probably should – have been brought against the J6 assailants for the loss of seven lives.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 11:51 amAccording to records obtained by Judicial Watch’s FOIA requests, President Obama’s annual trips to Chicago between January 2009 and January 2017 alone cost $7.4M, not including his travels to Martha’s Vineyard ($1M each) or Hawaii ($3.5-8M.) I don’t recall you grousing about that.
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:10 pmNot for long.
There is no evidence to support such a claim.
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:13 pmLook up “diminishing returns”.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:14 pm1,000 days to go.
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:16 pmLook up the law that entitles the President and other government officials to Secret Service protection.
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:26 pmFacts not in evidence.
I don’t believe I commented here during the Obama years; if memory serves I generally frequented PowerLine, HotAir, NRO and Instapundit during that time.
Rest assured, in those years I was as anti-Obama as any human being on the planet.
Shortly after Trump was sworn in, I remembered Patrick as a level-headed guy who I had enjoyed during the Bush years, and came back to see if he had sold his soul like nearly everyone else on the right who I had respected. The rest, as they say, is history.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:27 pmUnresponsive and unserious.
No one is arguing that Secret Service protection should be discontinued.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:33 pmFirst person:
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:48 pmFacts not in evidence.
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 12:50 pmBill Melugin has a point about security. It was definitely good enough to stop amateurs who think they’re too smart for their own britches, but a more professional op involving bombs coulda been a different story.
Paul Montagu (f4d691) — 4/26/2026 @ 1:16 pmWhich part of “No one is arguing that Secret Service protection should be discontinued” do you not understand?
The whole argument is illogical and emotional.
President Trump and the other protected VIPs were not visiting the 10th floor. So the 10th floor did not need to be secure like the ballroom.
Someone who just wants to blow up random people in the room next door can do it at any hotel, anywhere, anytime. It is not the Secret Service’s job to prevent it from happening (Nevertheless, I suspect there were precautions against explosives which extended beyond the magnetometer perimeter, but perhaps not to the 10th floor guest rooms).
It’s also worth remembering that with all the security – both uniformed and undercover – there were vast numbers of people walking around the hotel with weapons who were supposed to have them. But only someone who could run the gauntlet of the checkpoint, the guarded stairwells, guarded doors and finally the unknown but large number of plainclothes and tuxedoed agents in the ballroom itself could threaten the Secret Service’s protectees.
The guy was nuts to think he could get close enough to threaten anyone except security, and the fact he was taken into custody unwounded suggests he quickly realized how utterly hopeless his “plan” was.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 1:19 pmThe fact that you complain it costs a “fortune” to protect Trump and his “lackeys.”
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 1:31 pmApparently your view of security at the dinner is in the minority. Access to the ballroom area should have been sealed off except to ticket holders.
Rip Murdock (b4b422) — 4/26/2026 @ 1:37 pmThe Secret Service isn’t there to protect the journalists though. Journalist pre-parties probably have to make do with the hotel’s own security, and any private backup they provide for themselves.
There is technology (including K-9 and mechanical sniffers) for detecting bombs that could protect, say, the lobby areas.
Also the roadway approaches and curbside would have been watched for suicide vehicles and remotely triggered bombs, one assumes.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 1:37 pmApparently my view is in harmony with the professionals in charge.
It was.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 1:41 pmOne person died on J6, and that was at the hands of Capitol police.
As usual, Dave would rather lie and look ridiculous than simply walk back his “eliminationist rhetoric”. (h/t Paul Krugman)
lloyd (777240) — 4/26/2026 @ 1:53 pm“A bipartisan Senate report found that at least seven people had lost their lives in connection with the Jan. 6 attack.”
What I wrote is backed up by facts, as always.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 2:02 pm@190
Dave, I’ll bet you believe NATO stands for North America Treaty Org because the NYT said so. “In connection with” is of course the necessary heavy lifting.
Going from there to “capital felony murder charges” is a complete other layer of heavy lifting. You’re clearly not bothered by making ridiculous claims if it means clinging to your pro-violence rhetoric. Sad.
lloyd (777240) — 4/26/2026 @ 2:26 pmWe’ll see what the congressional
Rip Murdock (621b5f) — 4/26/2026 @ 2:31 pmcoverupinvestigation reveals. 😉I dunno, this Cole guy looks a tad like Alex Padilla. You mean, “Don’t you know who I am?” shouldn’t have worked last night? So much fake outrage, which folks here bought into at the time.
lloyd (777240) — 4/26/2026 @ 2:37 pmHardly.
Even a single death resulting from a felony like burglary would qualify for a first-degree murder charge.
Ashli Babbitt, for example.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 2:43 pm<b
From your linked article:
The DC medical examiner determined Sicknick died of multiple strokes.
None of the deaths come close to the definition of “capital murder”, as is there no such crime in either the DC or US criminal code. In any event, would need to charge a specific person with the crime, not an entire group.
Rip Murdock (621b5f) — 4/26/2026 @ 2:45 pmEMBIGGEN THE BALLROOM!!!
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 2:46 pmEven if true. you could only charge the police officer, not the other rioters. There is nothing in the statute that would allow that.
Rip Murdock (621b5f) — 4/26/2026 @ 2:49 pmAnd if you think Ashli Babbitt was murdered (she wasn’t) you have to wonder why the police officer who shot her hasn’t been prosecuted. Biden didn’t pardon Michael Byrd.
Rip Murdock (621b5f) — 4/26/2026 @ 2:59 pm@197 Going down irrelevant rabbit holes is of course what Dave does. His original call to violence against “trumpsters” @70 had none of the qualifiers he’s now bringing up. If he was only referring to J6 rioters, he’s had plenty of opportunity to clarify. Of course, he meant exactly what he said and has walked back none of it, not even his lie about “seven deaths”. Again, sad.
lloyd (777240) — 4/26/2026 @ 3:04 pmAfter some research, that may be right; let’s suppose it is.
There are documented cases of felony murder convictions involving heart attacks, where the victim is untouched, but nevertheless dies due the felony (People vs. Stamp). And accomplices have been convicted in felony murder cases too.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 3:07 pmI mean… like I said. LOL
lloyd (777240) — 4/26/2026 @ 3:14 pmZelenskyy may have found the right man for a very tough job:
Jim Miller (d0927c) — 4/26/2026 @ 3:20 pmhttps://x.com/Mylovanov/status/2048109152073912376
@200 I meant to add that the stroke victims could thereby qualify.
@198
She was killed in the commission of felonies (her own and others’) and was shot in self-defense. If felony murder is not applicable, then she wasn’t murdered.
@199
There was no “call to violence”, and I never claimed I was talking about J6 rioters specifically. I used them as an example of Trumpish criminality that could lawfully lead to capital punishment.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 3:21 pmHe looks like he could play TE in the NFL, too…
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 3:38 pmAgain, facts not in evidence.
Rip Murdock (26f4b9) — 4/26/2026 @ 3:44 pmAnother pointless discussion about January 6th, and I’m sorry I participated in it.
Rip Murdock (26f4b9) — 4/26/2026 @ 3:48 pmIf I am elected president (“President Mudd”) I want Rip or Lloyd to head up the SS, and not Dave. Nothing personal Dave, but I don’t want a security minimalist.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 4/26/2026 @ 3:52 pmBrutal:
Crosstabs
Rip Murdock (26f4b9) — 4/26/2026 @ 4:02 pmFor the first time ever, a marathon race was run in under two hours, not once but twice:
Rip Murdock (26f4b9) — 4/26/2026 @ 4:19 pmI never suggested minimalism.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 4:32 pmThis story puzzles me:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2026/04/26/white-house-correspondents-dinner-security-status/
Probably Hanlon’s Razor applies. Probably.
Jim Miller (d0927c) — 4/26/2026 @ 4:48 pmRegardless, it looks like Trump will get Congressional approval.
Rip Murdock (0fc1b6) — 4/26/2026 @ 4:49 pmLouisiana, Arkansas, Alabama and Texas now all have laws on the books mandating diplay of the Ten Commandments in public school classrooms, cafeterias and libraries.
This has been illegal since the Supreme Court’s 7-2 decision in Stone vs. Graham (1980)
Would the people who support the government’s doing this also support the posting of verses from the Koran, Buddhism, Dave-ism, etc?
If not, then isn’t the government kind of taking sides and establishing a favored religion here?
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 4:54 pmI don’t see any state government doing so.
Rip Murdock (0fc1b6) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:00 pmJim Miller (d0927c) — 4/26/2026 @ 4:48 pm
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:03 pmUnresponsive.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:05 pmNever let a crisis go to waste?
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:17 pmNot according to the Fifth Circuit. Stone vs. Graham Is apparently now moot.
I expect the Supreme Court will uphold this decision.
Rip Murdock (0fc1b6) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:19 pmProbably not, but states can pick and choose what messages they endorse.
Rip Murdock (0fc1b6) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:28 pm@213 You mean like this?
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:40 pmWhen the Left demands no religion in schools, what they mean is no Christianity in schools.
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:43 pmKennedy v. Bremerton Sch. Dist. involved an individual’s private practice of religious expression; it specifically distinguished acts mandated by the state: (Wikipedia)
A public school classroom is, by contrast, a manifestly captive audience, and there is nothing private or personal about the legislature mandating prominent display of a particular sect’s religious texts.
I would have described the Lemon test (which asked what government was permitted to do) as being inapplicable to Kennedy v. Bremerton Sch. Dist. (where an individual’s actions rather than the state’s were involved) rather than being overruled by it.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:48 pmPublic schools are allowed to set aside time or space for students to use for prayers, are they not?
What I thought was illegal is mandatory, school-led prayer.
You guys are kind of proving my point that you have a double standard.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:56 pm206, Rip, I appreciated the J6 discussion, and thank you for the comments.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (e3ccc4) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:57 pm@223
Using public funds to build a prayer room targeting one religion isn’t that, and you know it.
I never said I thought posting the ten commandments was acceptable, and I don’t. You’re the one advancing the Left’s double standard.
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/26/2026 @ 6:01 pmWhose 10 commandments are they posting? The Catholic version? The Protestant version? In two groups of 5 like the Jewish version?
(There is no reason to post the 10 Commandments other than the establishment of religion.)
nic (120c94) — 4/26/2026 @ 6:09 pmThere’s no actual evidence that Muslim students will be the only ones allowed to use the rooms. It would never be tolerated by a court, any more than excluding Muslims would.
It’s ragebait.
You strongly suggested that any objection would be motivated by discriminatory religious animosity. But OK.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 6:24 pmEstablishments were formed by a web of laws. Typical elements were laws compelling attendance at the official church; laws controlling doctrine,
Rip Murdock (0fc1b6) — 4/26/2026 @ 5:19 pm
A law compelling the posting of the ten commandments in a classroom is a “law controlling doctrine”.
I agree with lloyd. Posting the ten commandments in a school is unacceptable.
norcal (4f3f20) — 4/26/2026 @ 6:33 pm@227
Lower sinks are an accommodation targeting one religion. It’s a prayer room targeting one religion. That other religions or a nerf club can use it is irrelevant.
Yes, discriminatory religious animosity is exactly what your double standard is.
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/26/2026 @ 6:37 pmThe wording is specified in the Texas law, and must be followed exactly:
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 6:39 pmDude. Stop. F*cking. Lying.
All religions are the same to me (I find Christ’s message the most relatable but have no plans to start worshipping him…), and I have expressed nothing discriminatory to any of them here.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 6:47 pmDave, cool. That has nothing to do with your double standard expressed here.
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/26/2026 @ 6:52 pm“There’s no actual evidence that Muslim students will be the only ones allowed to use the rooms. ”
Sure, Dave.
That said, norcal and Lloyd are right: no one ought to be posting religious tracts or tenants in public schools.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (e3ccc4) — 4/26/2026 @ 7:07 pmYour complaint is with the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals, not me, though I’ll bet the Supreme Court will uphold the Texas law.
Rip Murdock (0fc1b6) — 4/26/2026 @ 7:15 pmEven if so, is it clear that it’s forbidden? Religious accommodations are required by law.
This is from the Trump Dept. of Ed. site:
If a student must wash their feet to pray, the law seems to require the school allow them if it is not unduly disruptive. Having a low sink might be the best choice, especially if a lot of students will need it around the same times.
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 7:18 pm@235
None of what’s listed there requires public funds or any effort by the school. The lower sinks require public funds and probably a paid architect to design the prayer room, etc.
Apples and oranges.
IANAL but public funds and effort is an unreasonable accommodation. It doesn’t look like the school initially consulted an attorney either, thus the scramble to change the name of the room. They knew what they were doing was wrong.
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/26/2026 @ 7:41 pmHere’s the Trump admin’s
GUIDANCE ON CONSTITUTIONALLY PROTECTED PRAYER AND RELIGIOUS EXPRESSION IN PUBLIC ELEMENTARY AND SECONDARY SCHOOLS (February 2026)
I find nothing objectionable.
(It doesn’t directly address the Ten Commandments laws, but the line it draws seems to me to exclude them)
Dave (0a43e3) — 4/26/2026 @ 7:45 pmThe Trump guidance is irrelevant as to how the Supreme Court will interpret the Constitution as to whether posting the Ten Commandments violate the Establishment Clause. Like firearms regulation, the Court has moved to an analysis based on historical practices and understandings.
Rip Murdock (0fc1b6) — 4/26/2026 @ 7:58 pmKimmel, two days before the shooting:
“Our First Lady, Melania, is here. Look at Melania, so beautiful. Mrs. Trump, you have a glow like an expectant widow.”
The Left is mentally sick.
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/26/2026 @ 8:21 pmThe Left is mentally sick.
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/26/2026 @ 8:21 pm
That’s a very broad statement, in addition to being one-sided.
norcal (117560) — 4/26/2026 @ 9:53 pmDavid French: Meet the New Leader of the Free World (gift link)
Dave (1d160a) — 4/26/2026 @ 10:47 pmDave (1d160a) — 4/26/2026 @ 10:47 pm
Good article. Trump has done significant damage to relationships with our allies. He should have been impeached for threatening to invade Greenland.
He has harsher words for our allies than he does for Russia. Reagan would be apoplectic.
norcal (117560) — 4/26/2026 @ 11:27 pm@213 They don’t care. As Churchill said of the germans they are either at your feet or your throat. BTW trump thanked satan for sending his hells angels to protect him and not call him home early.
asset (83ee4c) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:14 am@238 dreamer!
asset (83ee4c) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:17 amFundo’s say don’t worry its the majorities religion that will be used no postings in school of the koran or other tolerated minorities.
asset (83ee4c) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:22 amYour one-sided “both sides” schtick is a funnier joke than Kimmel’s.
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/27/2026 @ 6:10 amJust a reminder that this leftist assassin is yet more violence coming from the left. All the bogus studies claiming political violence is forever on the right has been debunked by reality.
NJRob (fe0851) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:28 amPushing communism and other evil ideologies like transing children is the definition of mental illness.
NJRob (fe0851) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:29 amhttps://freebeacon.com/issues/suspected-whcd-shooter-boosted-bluesky-posts-saying-trump-should-be-tried-for-high-crimes/
His mental illness that caused him to try and mass murder our leadership seems to be indistinguishable from NeverTrump’s mentality and constant ravings.
NJRob (fe0851) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:32 am#215 Mandy Rice-Davies applies. Probably.
Jim Miller (f311ed) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:33 am@249
Are there any American loving, pragmatic progressive left anymore? If you are, get your house in order.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:40 amThis was a surprisingly thoughtful response from POTUS:
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:43 amThis was a surprisingly thoughtful response from POTUS:
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:44 am@252
That was in response to a typically loaded question from the media:
“Why do you think this keeps happening to you?”
The right question, which they will never ask:
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:55 am“Why does the Left keep resorting to violence?”
Bullsht.
Bullsht.
Bullsht.
Bullsht.
CSIS reported that left-wing violence exceeded right-wing violence in 2025, but the previous 29 years were by your fellow right-wing zealots. Police your own, Robbie.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:57 amDon’t believe your lying eyes. Believe results-driven statistics that define right-wing as broadly as possible.
lloyd (5c4d31) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:08 amTypical MAGA water-carrying, resorting to ad hom. It’s the factless substanceless commentary I’ve come to expect from you.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:12 am@255
Bullsht studies that has very massaged and contorted definitions in order to fit certain narratives.
The modern Democratic Party has created lunatics and monsters among them. Democrats need to come to terms with what they have produced.
Yes, the right has its own version of this derangement effect, but it’s still relegated to the fringe, whereas the Democrat’s version is very much in the mainstream.
I don’t see the same sort of glee we saw from the left when Kirk was murdered from the right.
I don’t see the same sort of protest-to-riots from the left, like we’ve seen over the years from the right. (excepting j6… which really is a one-off from the right)
I don’t see the same sort of “resistance” efforts from the left media/social media fomenting violence against the right when the left were in power.
The rhetoric from the progress left has been getting worse in my lifetime, particularly during Dubya’s terms, which has accelerated ever since HRC lost.
I would appreciate you’d stop being the useful idiot on behalf of the left Paul. Take a breather and self-reflect that maybe your hate-raging-boner against all-things-Trump is clouding your judgement a wee bit.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:17 amThe fact remains that 1,500 of your fellow MAGA zealots were criminally indicted for what they did on J6, hundreds of whom were provable cop-beaters, and your Orange Leader pardoned them all, including every single cop-beater. My eyes saw a whole bunch of those indictments, all of which contained visual evidence of their criminality.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:17 amIt’s weird how so many hyperpartisan MAGAs like you remain in such denial.
All you got is ad hominem, which tells anyone that your argument sucks ass.
One of the links went to the National Institute of Justice, which Trump wiped from all US government websites, just like he did with the 2018 National Climate Assessment, because it conflicted with his mentally deranged preconceptions.
CSIS analyzed and assessed the motivations behind every attack. They’re not some left-wing hack site, and nor is Cato.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:21 amPaul loves him some garbage propaganda. Anything to absolve the left and justify their evil actions. But he’s such a true conservative. That’s why he pushes the left’s agenda over and over again.
NJRob (000680) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:25 amPaul’s upset that garbage studies and leftist propaganda are no longer being pushed by the government. Just like his constant defenses of the SPLC.
GIGO.
NJRob (000680) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:26 am@260
lol. More appeal to authority desk slammings and a dig against Trump.
sad.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:30 amCongratulations to these two local teams: https://www.king5.com/article/news/local/sammamish-bellevue-robotics-teams-win-world-championships/281-545015425
Jim Miller (f311ed) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:52 amMore:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:06 amI do think SS should reconsider allowing POTUS, VPOTUS and Speaker in the same room in an event like this.
That’s why the ballroom addition would be important for events like this in the future.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:18 amMany of you are wedded to the idea that any attack on Trump is the result of intemperate rhetoric from the left, but reject the idea that intemperate rhetoric on the right has any effect whatsoever. Since the argument is stupid, one can only assume that y’all are merely anxious to censor people who disagree with Trump, and looking for an excuse. In some cases, that might be subconscious. It’s hard for me to understand why anyone would intentionally gaslight about this on a relatively obscure website.
Appalled (4e65f2) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:19 am#266
Why on earth should the White House Correspondents Association, an independent organization, hold an awards ceremony on White House grounds? That’s frigging crazy (unless the idea is that news correspondents are supposed to be co-opted and approved by the White House)
Appalled (4e65f2) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:22 amInteresting read from my hometown:
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:27 amPower Play
@268
You’re just engaging on both-sidism.
Most of us aren’t ignoring the fringe right issues. But those sick people are on the fringe.
The problem, Appalled, is that it is the violent left is becoming more mainstream.
This is nothing to do with wanting to censor criticism of Trump. It has EVERYTHING to do to denounce violence.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:30 amThe planned ballroom is far too small for this event. As Paul noted, the ballroom will hold approximately 1,000 guests while the WHCA event has more than @,500.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:32 am@269
Why?
Because the POTUS (and other government officials) are the guest of honor.
You can’t be seriously arguing that it WOULDN’T be eminently a safer venue to host the dinner at the new ballroom…right?
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:32 am@272
If they want to invite the POTUS (and other government official)… cut down that number. Or, POTUS doesn’t show up.
Simple as that.
WHCA don’t get to demand the POTUS to go to a specific venue.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:33 amIn Robbie’s narrow binary world, who knew that the facts from multiple factual studies are “the left’s agenda” or have a left-wing bias.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:34 amI’d say a true conservative considers the evidence, not the pap that’s spoon-fed you from your right-wing silos. But you well established that you’re no conservative. You’re in the tank for a right-wing con man.
False again, but I’m done addressing your states of denial about all kindsa things.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:36 am@276
You saying “false again” doesn’t win you any debate points Paul.
I cannot reconcile the fact that you were once a GOP voter, an actual conservative, morphed into reflectively taking nearly every anti-Trump position.
You may think you’re principled… but, your only principle isn’t some lofty center-right/conservative position… your principle is strictly defined by Tea Dee S’ism.
I sincerely hope you get help as it seems you’re helpless.
Sad.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:45 amMAGA has made war on reality, reality has insisted they’re wrong, so reality is left wing.
Colonel Klink (ret) (3215ef) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:52 amYou haven’t even debated, whembly. The facts have been presented, and you’re again doing the equivalent of closing your eyes and plugging your ears.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:56 amWhembly,
he’s a lefty from Seattle. Those were his talking points on Hot Air back in the day. Former lefty that converted to be a Republican. He’s just returning to his roots.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 4/27/2026 @ 10:24 amWe see Trump as doing incalculable harm to the country we love, whembly.
The country has survived bad policy decisions in the past, and can do so today.
But he is dragging our country through the mud. Turning us from the greatest force for good in the history of the world into the opposite. Reveling in cruelty and ignorance. Demolishing the very foundation of democracy by election fraud and attempted theft. Perhaps the greatest tragedy is that he has corrupted most of the party of Lincoln and Reagan, and the people in it, turning it from a vigilant defender of liberty and justice into a personality cult.
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 10:24 am@279
“facts”… lol.
Numerical data can be manipulated, misrepresented, or cherry-picked to support weak arguments or intentionally deceive, even when the numbers themselves are technically true. Aka… “Statistics, lies and damned lies.”
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 10:32 am@280
Ah.
Makes sense.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 10:33 amThe war on science continues:
National Science Board eviscerated; Trump admin fires all 22 members
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 10:45 amI prefer the latter.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 10:54 amIt’s more than just oil that transits the Strait of Hormuz:
MAHA not upset.
Related:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 11:12 amDisaster in waiting:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 11:17 amLiar, except the Seattle part.
At Hotair, you lied that I supported Hillary, just like you lied that I “pushed the 51 intelligence officials garbage hook, line and sinker” and “took the bait because you wanted the lie to be true.” I don’t know why you keep doing that, but it’s an asshole, asserted by an asshole.
Tell me this, child, how is Cato “garbage propaganda”? Are you that far at the end of the horseshoe?
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 11:30 am…an asshole move…
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 11:31 amYet you proved none of that. You’re just making baseless claims.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 11:32 am#273 (Whembly)
@269
#266
If the White House Correspondents Dinner were held at the White House, that would make it a very different thing. For example, do you think Trump would permit the Wall Street Journal to win an award for its Epstein files reporting? At a minimum, he could control the invitation list to the ballroom, and make sure reporters he hates don’t show up.
Appalled (b42229) — 4/27/2026 @ 11:42 amApparently, there was no “designated survivor” for the White House Correspondents’ event:
Despite of all the commentary from Administration officials saying the security plan “worked”, it worked only the extent that it thwarted a lone gunman and not an Iranian suicide squad that decided to stay at the Washington Hilton.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 11:47 am@281
That’s how I see about Democrats.
True.
lol. Sure Jan…
Hyperbolic nonsense.
Hyperbolic nonsense.
Hyperbolic nonsense.
Perhaps the greatest tragedy is that he has corrupted most of the party of Lincoln and Reagan, and the people in it, turning it from a vigilant defender of liberty and justice into a personality cult.
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 10:24 am
And finally, some more hyperbolic nonsense without any basis in reality.
This is the worldview the feeds into 3 failed assassination attempts of the POTUS (with at least 2 attempted assassination attempt that the perp thought POTUS was on location).
But let’s also be reminded of all the political-related violent events:
– Leftist attempts mass assassination of GOP Congressional baseball team, nearly killing Scalise
– Leftist arrested in assassination plot outside the home of conservative SCOTUS Justice Kavanaugh
– Leftist assassinates conservative media personality and TPUSA founder Charlie Kirk
– Leftist arrested in assassination plot against WH budget director Vought
– Three separate assassination attempts against POTUS Donald Trump (all 3 by reported donors to Democrat/Left causes / one was a registered R prior to Dem-aligned donation & shooting Trump in the head)… with at least 2 separate attempts that POTUS wasn’t on location
– Man murders Dem lawmakers in MN (suspect has some right-wing beliefs, also is a former Dem appointee, also says the Dem governor told him to do it)
– Man sets PA Governor mansion ablaze with Dem Gov & family asleep inside (suspect is a ‘globalize the intifada’ terrorist/antisemite)
– Man attacks Paul Pelosi with a hammer (unclear if this counts as an assassination attempt or politically motivated / suspect has a bizarre worldview, with a mix of far left and far right views/conspiracies)
– Also worth noting various celebrations / justifications of violent acts (Kirk murder, healthcare CEO murder) among a non-insubstantial segment of the Left, as well pro-violence stances articulated by an increasingly prominent leftist influencer being mainstreamed by a large swath of the political Left
– After the Kirk assassination, YouGov asked Americans if political violence is ever justified. Huge bipartisan majorities said no. But: “A quarter of respondents who identified as very liberal said violence can sometimes be justified to achieve political goals, along with 17 percent of those who identified as liberal…6 percent of those who said they’re conservative and 3 percent of those who identified as very conservative.”
The hardcore left-wing establishment believes this sort of Hitler/Trump rhetoric, combined with the normalization of street violence, generates ever more protests, fuels anti-ICE fury, unites Congressional Democrats, and—most importantly—drives down Trump poll numbers. In their view, it is a lot more effective than merely outlining an alternative agenda.
So I don’t want to hear about “but rightwing violence is a problem too!” until ya’ll acknowledge, that at least in recent memory, that leftwing violence is on the rise and a danger to us all.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 11:48 am@284
Good.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 11:49 am@291
No, I don’t think it’d be that difficult.
Nor do I think they’d do some shenanigans like you posited.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 11:52 amI already acknowledged that, whembly, in linking to the CSIS study more than once and The Atlantic a few months ago. It is true that there was more left-wing violence last year. I do agree with you that you “don’t want to hear about ‘but rightwing violence is a problem too!'” as you keep saying.
BTW, CSIS is rated as “high credibility” and “least biased”. They’re credible.
Cato is rated “high credibility” and “Right-Center”. They’re also credible.
BTW, DePape became a fully indoctrinated MAGA in the years prior to his attack on Paul Pelosi, so stated by the guy who knew him best, who found him housing and hired him for construction jobs.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:12 pmModeration. Not sure why.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:13 pmEgads, looking at this crew talking about prosecuting this guy…he’s going to get off.
If there were 3 less qualified people in charge of this investigation, you’d have to have Charlie Brown’s teacher, you’re drunk uncle, and a deer caught in the headlights, and I don’t know which is which.
Colonel Klink (ret) (3215ef) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:33 pmThe YouGov question is poorly worded.
If violence is never justified to achieve political goals, could you remind me what the Second Amendment is for?
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:35 pmNSB/NSF and USAID, two of Dave’s favorites, were funding EcoHealth Alliance until it was cut off by… drumroll… Autopen.
Science!
Entrenched power is usually never good. That’s why democratically elected leaders get to change things. I guess some folks don’t like that.
lloyd (0d2b33) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:35 pmIt’s “ Lies, damned lies, and statistics.”
To which I can add a fourth category of lie: “Scientific proof.”
At least when it calls itself “Scientific proof.”
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:35 pmActuakky, I think on this Trump doesn’t believe the SPLC cost him he election, and Charlottsville, while it was made a great deal of (and maybe helped round up a few votes in the South Carolina primary in 2020) was the reason Biden said he was running for president (why he felt he needed a special excuse to run for president is not clear to me) but it had nothing to do with his decision to run.
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:42 pmI think the WHCA would rather end the dinner than move it to any government building.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:52 pm30% of Republicans surveyed in February 2025 approved of pardoning people convicted *violent* J6 crimes.
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:53 pm*convicted of
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:53 pmAnd how were they to get them there, and have weapons, and no leaks? That part worked too.
What didn’t work was if the gunman had had less selective targeting. but he was mostly interested in Trump and other officials.
When a president travels abroad they generally take over a whole hotel. And that’s what they also did when JD Vance traveled to Pakistan a week before.
Islamabad Reopens After U.S.-Iran Talks Fail to Materialize
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:55 pmThere was no violence at the Capitol on January 6th, it was just a bunch of tourists.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 12:59 pm@298
Hol’ up.
Are you seriously “just asking question here” as if it absolve the 3 would be assassins?
Please tell me you’re just d!cking around here…
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:05 pmA new resource for Supreme Court records:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:05 pmThe problem with hosting the White House correspondents dinner at the White House is that sometimes the president would want it there (under the control of an outside organization) and sometimes not so it couldn’t be routine.
Also, Paul Montague wrote at #143 that the proposed White House ballroom couldn’t host as many attendees as the White House correspondents dinner had this year .
But I haven’t seen that mentioned anywhere else.
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:07 pmSource
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:13 pmHe ignored the magnetometers. He didn’t get very far, so the checkpoint was positioned properly (which doesn’t happen at airports and didn’t happen in Afghanistan.)
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:18 pmSee also Tyranny Prevention: A “Core” Purpose of the Second Amendment.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:19 pm306. An eyewitness account of Jan 6 (by a reporter who was also at the WHCA dinner Saturday night and linked to his earlier account)
https://jewishinsider.com/2021/01/capitol-riot-first-person-trump
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:25 pmHe did believe (or pretended to believe) there were many.
So the question Trump was asked in that 60 Minutes interview about whom he thought the would-be murderer meant was partially valid.
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:33 pmThe poll you touted asked: Do you think it is ever justified for citizens to resort to violence in order to achieve political goals?
Suppose Trump’s sanity continues to crumble, and Democrats win the next two elections. Bigly.
President Warren uses her congressional supermajority to pack the Supreme Court (renamed “The Peoples’ Equity Tribunal”). She issues an executive order requiring every round of firearm ammunition to be registered with the federal government, with an annual $5/round “users fee” and stiff prison sentences for non-compliance.
Finally, the administration contrives some way to prevent or rig all future elections, cementing Putin-style authoritarian system.
Now, tell me again: Do you think it is ever justified for citizens to resort to violence in order to achieve political goals?
Republicans who answered that YouGov poll obviously had Charlie Kirk’s recent murder fresh in their minds. Some Democrats and Independents may have considered a scenario more like the one I created (but with the mad-man Trump stealing elections).
The poll didn’t ask “Is it justified, today, for citizens to resort to violence to achieve political goals?”
It asked a much more open-ended question, and I seriously doubt you could honestly say you believe there are no circumstances whatsoever in which violence against a tyrannous governmant would be justified.
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:42 pmhttps://katv.com/news/nation-world/friendly-federal-assassin-read-the-accused-gunmans-cole-tomas-allen-full-manifesto-sent-before-dinner-attack-white-house-correspondents-dinner-shooting-trump-administration-political-violence-secret-service-safety-security
What does he mean by “pranking me?” Who maybe pranked him?
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:43 pmI already acknowledged that, whembly, in linking to the CSIS study more than once and The Atlantic a few months ago. It is true that there was more left-wing violence last year, and it could be the same for 2026.
BTW, CSIS is rated “high credibility” and “least biased”. They’re credible.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:48 pmCato is rated “high credibility” and “Right-Center”. They’re also credible.
Regarding DePape, whembly, he became a full-blown MAGA in the years prior to his attack on Mr. Pelosi, so stated by the guy who knew him best, who found housing for him and hired him for construction jobs.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:53 pmI think that’s not part of the manifesto.
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 1:55 pmWe can’t have both?
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:00 pmYou were never a threat, homes.
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:01 pmWhen you’re a star they let you do it. You can do anything.
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:07 pm@312
Agreed.
But reading between the lines, Dave is arguing that he’s seeing tyranny at the moment.
whembly (5a0576) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:07 pmhttps://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/26/insider/gold-us-mint-drug-cartel.html
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:09 pm309, Sammy, The idea that the event needs room for over 2,000 is nuts: evidently Wolf Blitzer’s agent was there and god knows how many other superflous guests. Maybe they’ll trim the guest list to the WH correspondents, spouses and the main politicos.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:11 pmThe U.S. v. Cole Tomas Allen indictment.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:13 pmDePape couldn’t be full blown MAGA because he was an illegal immigrant (from Canada)
But I guess he was too stupid to take that into consideration.
From Google AI:
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:16 pmAs Biden pointed out, arms didn’t help the Kurds against Saddam Hussein.
Only a U.S. enforced no fly zone did (this was in an era long before drones)
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:22 pmWell, they want to have it.
How many people are at the Oscars?
From AI Overview:
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:26 pmThe right has more people prepared for non-violent, or at least lawful, extremism.
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:29 pmRIP former State Department official Lionel Rosenblatt (82):
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:31 pmDave @323. Trump said that was locker room talk; i.e. a lie.
And everyone agrees it was a lie – Trump’s detractors said the lie was that they let him do it.
Sammy Finkelman (c5132f) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:32 pmWho is “everyone”?
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:44 pm@251Are you saying Klaus von staffenberg didn’t love his country? Trump and trumpsters can’t provoke democrats and own the libs and then complain that they stopped acting like punching bags.
asset (2250ef) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:56 pm@258 Why? Sow the wind reap the whirlwind. For every action their is a reaction as elon musk found out the hard way.
asset (2250ef) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:59 pm@333
Donald J. Trump, testifying under oath:
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 2:59 pmThe right keeps saying we need the second amendment to fight tyranny. The left is now agreeing.
asset (2250ef) — 4/27/2026 @ 3:04 pmThe SS agents manning the magnetometers were lucky. The security plan was designed for a lone gunman. It would have been a lot bloodier if an Iranian suicide squad were the assassins.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 3:15 pmAllahpundit: Ballroom Blitz (gift link)
Dave (3d6f81) — 4/27/2026 @ 3:16 pmNo draft.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 3:30 pmLack of a draft is obviously important, but even without one, there were near constant (if not large) protests during the Iraq war.
Dave (1d160a) — 4/27/2026 @ 3:53 pmGovernment airlines:
Related:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 3:56 pmThere were far more US casualties during the Iraq War: over 4,000 killed and nearly 30,200 wounded.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 4:02 pmMore:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 4:05 pmUniversity of Michigan Survey of Consumers April 2026:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 4:11 pmBuyer’s remorse:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/27/2026 @ 4:54 pmThe End of an Era: All Four Black House Republicans Are Leaving Congress This Year
Colonel Klink (ret) (3215ef) — 4/27/2026 @ 5:10 pmToday is US Grant’s 204th birthday, and here’s a great tribute. I might have to read his book.
And here’s a letter from a former Confederate, honoring Grant.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 6:12 pmFor the last few election cycles, GOP leadership worked hard to recruit and support candidates of color to broaden the party’s national appeal.
Colonel Klink (ret) (3215ef) — 4/27/2026 @ 5:10 pm
I disagree with the notion that a leader has to look like me in order to appeal to me.
MLK’s colorblind approach is better.
norcal (117560) — 4/27/2026 @ 6:47 pmGood for him
Kimmel always takes his bucket to the Trump well when he needs a ratings boost.
lloyd (572385) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:39 pm@lloyd@352 Sure. Do you remember Leno in the 90s?
nic (120c94) — 4/27/2026 @ 7:54 pm350, Paul, that was excellent. Thank you! (I have a set of US Grant’s memoirs with stars on the binding).
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (360ea4) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:07 pmnic @353 Yes. Signifying something, I’m sure.
lloyd (572385) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:09 pm@lloyd@355 If you remember Leno in the 90s, you know.
nic (120c94) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:14 pmGiven the number of shots fired (3-6), why is Cole Tomas Allen still alive?
Rip Murdock (16cf23) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:15 pmYou’re welcome, Harc.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:16 pmMore like Kimmel can count on the Streisand Effect, lloyd.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:19 pmIt’s so easy to trigger this thin-skinned con man, and apparently his wife, too.
It’s the old thing, that if you’re gonna dish it out, you damn well better take it.
Oh, in that case, I guess I don’t remember Leno in the 90s. Maybe I was thinking of Letterman. Welp, anyway….
lloyd (572385) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:19 pm@lloyd@360 Ah, I’d be glad to explain then, although Letterman did similar things, though in his own style IIRC. In the 90s, Leno went to the Clinton well a lot. It’s kind of a staple of late night comedy to pluck the low lying political fruit of comedically vulnerable Presidents.
nic (120c94) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:23 pm@359 You’re right, Paul. I’m glad you laugh at Trump’s jokes all the time in this comment section. We can all learn from it.
lloyd (572385) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:23 pm@352If Kimmel is fired over threats to pull abc’s license, when democrats get in we will have the fcc pull every right wing radio station and fox tv license. We will then go after their cable stations. Cons say they want to pull citizenship of democrats like Ilhan Omar. We will pull murdock’s citizenship for sedition and send faux noise back to australia!
asset (573846) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:34 pm@361 nic, I think you’ve confused Leno with Kathy Griffin. Easy mistake.
lloyd (08ea47) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:48 pmTrump: I can’t be killed I will be thrown directly into the lake of fire. Hopefully lloyd and robb will catch me! (thats a joke I have come to know how sensitive you two are)
asset (573846) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:55 pmFunny how folks here set their hair on fire after Trump said he was glad Mueller was dead, when he was already dead. I called it hateful rhetoric here and that was an easy call.
Really didn’t think it was controversial that Kimmel’s jokes about Kirk and Melania cross a line, but asset, nic and Paul — glad to be proved wrong!
lloyd (08ea47) — 4/27/2026 @ 8:56 pm@366 What line? I find these words to live by. Have the sensitivity of a rhinoceros and subtlety of a panzer division in full attack. Some say sincerity is an option ‘but I disagree.
asset (573846) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:05 pmWell Jimmy, as they say, if you have to explain a joke….
lloyd (08ea47) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:25 pm10 feet inside the perimeter?
Dave (699e46) — 4/27/2026 @ 9:41 pm@lloyd@364 Nope. I’d do youtube links, but my post would get eaten. You can go to youtube and search Jay Leno Clinton Jokes or Lewinsky jokes and get a whole ton of clips. @366 Kimmel’s joke was filmed before the attempt, so there wasn’t anything to be sensitive about. I take it you also didn’t ever see any jokes about Anna Nicole Smith and her elderly husband. Jokes about much younger women and elderly rich husbands are also frequent late night comedian fodder.
nic (120c94) — 4/27/2026 @ 10:20 pmEver here of gold diggers?
asset (573846) — 4/28/2026 @ 4:03 amStupid. Did I laugh at Kimmel’s jokes? Not that one, the one that cause snowflake reactions from Trump and his wife.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/28/2026 @ 4:20 amDoes Trump even make jokes? Or is he the joke?
BTW, Kimmel’s right about the pearl-clutching by Melania and her husband.
After all, her husband hasn’t been reticent about using violent commentary or that saying someone is a fascist incites political violence.
Paul Montagu (ab76f1) — 4/28/2026 @ 4:32 am@370
LOL nic, what? You can’t post an example? LMAO sure!
Leno didn’t make jokes about a president dying or about an assassination that just happened. A fellow comedian didn’t refuse to come on his show because he thought Leno crossed a line, either. Leno made jokes but didn’t cross a line.
You know this because you can’t dig up a link. Yet, rather than just admitting it you choose to lie about it.
lloyd (08ea47) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:12 am@373 Paul, except that Trump is the one who has had multiple assassination attempts. And, again, thanks for the helpful 1A reminder, which is actually another reminder of that when the Left crosses a line it’s all about whether it’s legal and when Trump does it it’s about whether it was right or wrong. Just the same hypocrisy as always.
When Trump was happy after Mueller died of natural causes, I should’ve just said he had a 1A right to say it and you would’ve been fine. LOL
lloyd (08ea47) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:22 amThe US isn’t alone in having problems paying for the promises made to old people:
Jim Miller (b9d670) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:34 amlloyd, you’re the last person who should be whining in defense of the MAGA snowflakes and their pearl-clutching about a late-night comedy sketch.
Paul Montagu (3d77b4) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:35 amMy apologies for the formatting mistake — and for bringing up a trivial problem. (As compared, of course, to a lame joke by a late night host.)
Jim Miller (b9d670) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:37 amIt’s like a group of MAGAs going into room, pull their drawers down and sht in it, and then start complaining about the smell.
Paul Montagu (3d77b4) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:37 am@379 Wow, Paul. I’ll bet that joke is a real hit on the playground.
lloyd (08ea47) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:42 amProbably the strongest argument against birthright citizenship of illegal aliens I’ve seen:
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:50 amAre We Subjects or Citizens? Birthright Citizenship and the Constitution
whembly:
The birthright citizenship clause is what the current Supreme Court says it is. Which is as arbitrary a construct as it sounds.
Appalled (2c0768) — 4/28/2026 @ 7:35 amIf you are really concerned about how birthright citizenship has been understood for generations, this article might help:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/04/newspapers-history-birthright-citizenship/686946/?gift=GETxgkzAqEYlT7d6KgZ8RaxkPGZ9ge88elTJOaA5084&utm_source=copy-link&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=share
It’s a gift link (not paywalled)
Appalled (2c0768) — 4/28/2026 @ 7:53 am357, Rip” No kidding–3-6 shots and all missed?
Reminescent of the incredible blunders made by SS when Obama was Pres. Aside from the hookers while on a foreign assignment.
A man breached the WH fence, and ran across the lawn up to a WH door. A sensor to detect a man doing just that “wasn’t working” at the time. A dog there to attack intruders wasn’t out at the time. A guard (this actually happened) saw the man, walked up and got w/in 6 feet—and turned away and did nothing. Then the intruder got inside! Because the doors were not locked. A door opening sensor had been deactivated because it annoyed some staff. The intruder got further inside until a visitor noticed him and he was tackled.
Mayor Karen Bass could have done better.
Too many in the SS think like Admiral Kimmel (he was in command at Pearl Harbor, Dave). No imagination, no responsibility except on their shift, and only a 9-5 mentality when on duty.
And then Butler, and a man lurking by Mar Lago for hours before being detected, and now this.
This institution is asleep from inside: firing the incompetent Obama -era appointee/Director barely touched the problem. Firing the one after Butler didn’t either. Doesn’t anyone do their d_ _ n job anymore?
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (bc8284) — 4/28/2026 @ 8:03 amThis is a rehash of the same losing dissent in Wong Ark v. US. It’s unlikely that five Justices will agree to cancel that precedent, IMO.
Paul Montagu (3d77b4) — 4/28/2026 @ 8:11 am376, Miller, and that is why no serious politician will make the slightest move to trim entitlements. Not in France, the UK or here. Recipients are like an ex-wife, they assume payments are a right. And since many voters paid into Social Security, they feel, with much justification, that those are owed to them.
The trendy movement to limit births because of global warming or some such nonsense, is going to crush that entitlement system. 2 workers can’t pay for one retiree who is being supported by about 4 such workers now. Which is another reason we ought to be paying billions into a social security trust fund and not to foreign health clinics in Uganda, gay operas in Serbia, or to house benefit-needy illegals in NY hotels etc.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (bc8284) — 4/28/2026 @ 8:13 am@385
Just like how there won’t be 5 Justices who would agree to cancel that Abortion precedent.
Oh waaait a minute?!?!!
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 8:13 amWong Kim Ark v. US has been a precedent for nearly 130 years, Roe v. Wade not so much. In addition, it is highly unlikely (except for a couple of Justices) that the Supreme Court will redefine citizenship that will suddenly strip it from millions of people and in some cases render them stateless.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 9:22 amNor is citizenship a hotly contested moral issue like abortion.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 9:26 amWe’ll see.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 9:30 amDon’t hold your breath:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 9:47 amOuch!
According to the opinion, Comey was sent a memo stating:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:10 amhttps://nypost.com/2026/04/28/opinion/democrats-rants-show-their-enemies-list-is-serious-business/
The fascist left is telling you what they are. Deny the truth all you want. but Sen Murphy makes it plain as day.
NJRob (c2e508) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:25 am@389
I disagree.
The debate over this has been just as hot, if not more, than abortion.
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:31 am“Facts” not in evidence. I don’t recall the annual March on Washington Against Birthright Citizenship, nor do I see states trying to define when citizenship occurs.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:37 amSeems like there’s a bevvy of reasons why they may rule the redistricting unconstitutional.
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:38 am@395
One doesn’t need to have an annual March in order to determine if the issue at hand is considered important Rip.
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:39 amThen what is the evidence that “The debate over this has been just as hot, if not more, than abortion.”
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:43 amI never said the birthright citizenship was unimportant. Your contention is that it is “as hot, if not more, than abortion.”
I don’t see any evidence that it is “as hot” as abortion. No one has been murdered or bombed due to the birthright citizenship debate, as happened to abortion doctors and clinics.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:51 amThe indomitable Cathy Young on left-wing and right-wing violence.
Paul Montagu (3d77b4) — 4/28/2026 @ 11:33 amThis looks like good news for the oil markets, given that UAE is OPEC’s 3rd largest producer and is now unconstrained from their quotes.
Paul Montagu (3d77b4) — 4/28/2026 @ 11:56 amWe’ll see if other OPEC members follow suit.
West Texas Intermediate crude is just over $100/barrel (+3.84%), and Brent crude is $104/barrel (+2.79%)
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 12:05 pmDOJ secures new indictment against James Comey over seashell “threat.”
Rip Murdock (a4bf55) — 4/28/2026 @ 12:14 pmThere’s usually more than one reason for an increase in oil prices, Rip.
Paul Montagu (3d77b4) — 4/28/2026 @ 12:26 pmUAE’s decision sparked uncertainties about the future of OPEC, and markets don’t like uncertainties.
Unlike Bahrain and Qatar and Kuwait and Iraq, and even Iran, UAE can wholly bypass usage of Hormuz.
@401
I wonder if this sparks some initial instability if OPEC truly does dissolve.
It might, however, open the door for other oil nations (ie, Russia or even the US) to create a new OPEC-like arraignment.
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 12:42 pm@403
Again?
Is it a “threat”.
Sure.
Is it really that much different from what we see on social media or even news opinion sites?
Not really.
It’ll get thrown out again.
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 12:43 pmMy post on oil prices wasn’t in response to your comment.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 12:56 pmDebatable. The Supreme Court in Counterman v. Colorado, 600 U.S. ___ (2023) said the government will need to prove that the defendant had some subjective understanding of the threatening nature of the statements (or seashell arrangement).
That will be tough to prove.
This is the first indictment of Comey over the seashells. Comey was previously indicted for making false statements to Congress on a different matter.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:17 pmTrump is now putting his face on US passports…
Dave (255e9e) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:21 pmCount 1 of the Comey seashell indictment states that Comey did
Count 2
Unless the government has witnesses to Comey arranging the seashells, and to confirming his state of mind that he intended to make a threat, the jury will have a good laugh before they vote to acquit.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:32 pm@409
Dammit… I lost a bet.
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whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:32 pmI betted that Trump would put his face on a large denomination bill.
@410
It’s not going to the jury. The judge will throw this one out too.
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:47 pm
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:48 pmThere’s still time.
I don’t know-the case is in the Eastern District of North Carolina, not Virginia or Washington DC.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:50 pm@413
Don’t give ’em the idea.
Certain segments of the population won’t want to carry around “Donnie” bills.
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:55 pm@414
Judges everywhere should absolutely be on the lookout for Government abuses, even potential ones.
I still think the NC judge would deep-six this before it going to a jury. It smacks of political retribution.
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:58 pmYou may be right, but not for the reasons you probably think. There’s no there there.
Flashback May 2025:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:58 pmAgreed, but I’d almost want to see it just to see the usual suspects stroke out.
NJRob (d5a616) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:58 pmRetribution is what MAGA voters want.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 1:59 pm@419
Agreed, and they have good reasons for advocating as such.
But I’m not sublime about it…
I don’t think “shoving the same medicine down their throat” is going to stop the progress/left next time they take power.
whembly (b5da4b) — 4/28/2026 @ 2:03 pmDo you think Trump would put his face on something that ordinary people would carry around?
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 2:05 pmWould be interesting to see Patrick’s thoughts on when frivolous abuse of the courts like this should bring consequences on the malfeasors.
If this doesn’t cross the line, how far can a prosecutor go?
Dave (255e9e) — 4/28/2026 @ 2:10 pmI mean, Trump already put his face on the national parks pass.
All of this is unprecedented; the president’s face has not historically been put on stuff like this *ever* … and yet here we are, and no doubt the usual Trumpists will say that this is justified by some malfeasance of Biden or Obama that didn’t include putting their pictures on arbitrary government documents.
aphrael (db3aa9) — 4/28/2026 @ 2:13 pmhttps://nypost.com/2026/04/28/opinion/democrats-rants-show-their-enemies-list-is-serious-business/
The fascist left is telling you what they are. Deny the truth all you want. but Sen Murphy makes it plain as day.
NJRob (c2e508) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:25 am
If the Democrats try to silence the media who disagree with them, I will oppose them.
Likewise, I am against Trump banning the AP from the White House because they didn’t go along with his grandstanding stunt to rename the Gulf of Mexico.
norcal (cd8bf8) — 4/28/2026 @ 2:23 pmThe FCC is openly investigating the broadcast licenses of a major network, in theory because it disapproves of their DEI policies, but the *Democrats* are the real threat to freedom of speech? Is that it, NJRob?
aphrael (db3aa9) — 4/28/2026 @ 2:38 pm> Agreed, and they have good reasons for advocating as such.
At this point it’s pretty much guaranteed that we spend the next generation in a series of escalating tit-for-tat retributions that will leave the country a smoldering wreck.
Well done, y’all. Well done.
aphrael (db3aa9) — 4/28/2026 @ 2:40 pmHe checked in as a hotel guest the day before. And he took the stairs down from the 10th floor.
Interestingly, according to radio host Greg Kelly, the Secret service had already disassembled the magnetometer. (But they weren’t letting anyone down so the effect was the same)
One shotgun shot (of buckshot) was fired by the would-be assassin, and five by one of the Secret Service people all of which missed unless one hit a Secret Service person and was stopped by the bullet proof vest, and the perpetrator missed.
It is not clear whether anyone tackled the perpetrator or whether he simply tripped (over a cord, maybe.)
Then they tore off his clothes.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/28/2026 @ 2:58 pmlloyd (08ea47) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:12 am
Kimmel made a “joke” about Melania being happy because she expected her husband to die, but the joke was made two days before. Kimmel says it was reference to Trump’s age, and both CBS and the New York Times noted he also made jokes about Trump’s health whether they really sounded connected or not.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/28/2026 @ 3:04 pmhotel security has been a known weak point since route 91 harvest, if not earlier.
aphrael (db3aa9) — 4/28/2026 @ 3:04 pmHere’s the monument to Trump’s Big Fat Ego at Doral*, in a nice tacky gold of course.
* Of course, the official name has his name on it: Trump National Doral Golf Club.
Paul Montagu (3d77b4) — 4/28/2026 @ 3:11 pmThe (slightly) wounded agent is apparently the only LEO who fired their weapon.
This article says they have not been able to find the fragment that struck him, or confirm it came from Allen.
It suggests Allen stumbled and was subdued on the ground. He did not reload after firing once.
Dave (255e9e) — 4/28/2026 @ 3:17 pmIt also notes that:
Another black eye for Secret Service, and especially for the officer who shot at Allen five times and missed. As I’ve said, the attendees were very lucky it was a lone gunman and not an Iranian suicide squad with automatic weapons and bomb vests.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 3:53 pmIf these claims are accurate, then I think it might be possible to find a better person for that position: https://x.com/factpostnews/status/2048818506066543094
Jim Miller (5a2902) — 4/28/2026 @ 4:07 pmHe was estimated to running at 9 mph, and only a few feet away, making the deflection problem essentially impossible. If, as suggested, Allen stumbled, the sudden change of momentum would have complicated the shot too.
The risk of hitting a friendly target would have also argued for tackling rather than shooting Allen.
There were a dozen or more agents in that lobby (reinforcements are already arriving through the double doors, even during the brief video of Allen’s dash), more on the stairwells, more at the doors into the ballroom, and likely a hundred or more armed undercover agents in the ballroom itself. By focusing on protecting the ballroom, the Secret Service had the numbers to handle any plausible threat in the area that mattered.
Dave (255e9e) — 4/28/2026 @ 4:31 pmSo what? A team of suicide bombers with automatic weapons, explosives and willing to blow themselves up could plausibly overwhelm the defenders.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 4:49 pmBetrayal
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/28/2026 @ 5:34 pmPutting aside the question of why the Iranians would blow up their most valuable strategic asset and put somebody more competent in charge, by “team”, I understand something of order 10 attackers, who would be outnumbered 10- or 20-1 in the ballroom area. The problem with blowing yourself up is that you only get to do it once, and they would have needed to cross the densely packed and heavily defended room to have a chance of injuring the target.
Unless the Iranians are somehow able to sneak an infantry brigade into the Washington Hilton, I can’t imagine brute force being successful.
If I had to come up with a plan, I’d try to use deceit.
The attack would start with a loud attack on the perimeter, similar to Allen’s, but more protracted to occupy attention for longer. In the video with Allen on the ground, you can see that the local security is briefly distracted and disorganized.
Part 2 then begins at a different point on the perimeter, where what appear to be a team of security reinforcements arriving to assist are actually disguised attackers, hoping to exploit a moment of doubt or hesitation to ambush and neutralize a roughly equal number of real security, breaching the perimeter here.
Part 3, the real threat, consists of attackers who appear to be panicked hotel staff carrying trays of food. These individually attempt to get within range of the target; when one is stopped, the next comes from a different angle.
More generally: get the security out of their plan by reacting to multiple apparent crises that are not the real threat, and hope they focus their attention on the wrong things.
Dave (01e37e) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:18 pm@lloyd@374 Oh for the love of God, every time you do this, you hate my answer. Leno told numerous jokes about Bill Clinton..
nic (120c94) — 4/28/2026 @ 6:44 pmThank you, Ms. Obvious. I never claimed otherwise.
I guess the dog keeps eating your homework.
lloyd (49bba2) — 4/28/2026 @ 7:16 pm@loyd@439 You did, in fact, claim you had no idea that Leno had told jokes about Clinton.
Lloyd@352: Kimmel always takes his bucket to the Trump well when he needs a ratings boost.
Me@353: Sure. Do you remember Leno in the 90s?
Lloyd@355: Yes. Signifying something, I’m sure.
Me@356: If you remember Leno in the 90s, you know.
lloyd@360: Oh, in that case, I guess I don’t remember Leno in the 90s. Maybe I was thinking of Letterman. Welp, anyway….
Me@361: Ah, I’d be glad to explain then, although Letterman did similar things, though in his own style IIRC. In the 90s, Leno went to the Clinton well a lot. It’s kind of a staple of late night comedy to pluck the low lying political fruit of comedically vulnerable Presidents.
Lloyd@364: nic, I think you’ve confused Leno with Kathy Griffin. Easy mistake.
Me@370: Nope. I’d do youtube links, but my post would get eaten. You can go to youtube and search Jay Leno Clinton Jokes or Lewinsky jokes and get a whole ton of clips. @366 Kimmel’s joke was filmed before the attempt, so there wasn’t anything to be sensitive about. I take it you also didn’t ever see any jokes about Anna Nicole Smith and her elderly husband. Jokes about much younger women and elderly rich husbands are also frequent late night comedian fodder.
lloyd@374 (having realized that Leno did tons of Clinton jokes and thus both attempting to move the goal posts and be insulting enough that I’d argue about that instead of the original discusion, nice try btw):
Me@438 (addressing the original discussion that late night comedians often go to the well of making fun of politicians and ignoring lloyd’s goal post move and poor attempts at being insulting): Oh for the love of God, every time you do this, you hate my answer. Leno told numerous jokes about Bill Clinton (a link)..
lloyd@439 (attempting to deny his original argument since it was so eminently refutable while emphasizing his goal post move and the insults he hopes will be sufficiently distracting): Thank you, Ms. Obvious. I never claimed otherwise. I guess the dog keeps eating your homework.
Nice try?
nic (120c94) — 4/28/2026 @ 7:50 pmLOL nic, obsessed much? My original comment was about Kimmel’s assassination humor, and a booked guest who refused to appear on his show. But, you deleted all that — dishonestly — to make it seem like my comment was about something else entirely.
Because I always hate your answer, or something.
lloyd (49bba2) — 4/28/2026 @ 8:05 pmAre you somehow unable to understand: “Kimmel’s joke was filmed before the attempt, so there wasn’t anything to be sensitive about. I take it you also didn’t ever see any jokes about Anna Nicole Smith and her elderly husband. Jokes about much younger women and elderly rich husbands are also frequent late night comedian fodder.” Or did you just not read that far through the comment? Do you need data on the Anna Nicole Smith jokes too? It’s in the article I linked.
nic (120c94) — 4/28/2026 @ 8:25 pmAssassination Culture 101
lloyd (49bba2) — 4/28/2026 @ 8:25 pmCrocodile tears.
lloyd (49bba2) — 4/28/2026 @ 8:40 pmTop Anthony Fauci adviser indicted for ‘criminal conspiracy’ against the United States
Another war on scientists… who happen to be criminals.
lloyd (49bba2) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:14 pm@393 I wish! The party hacks like murphy pretend tough talk is to fool the tofu eating snowflakes that they are not corporate stooges. When aipac says jump they ask how high?
asset (98ed99) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:25 pm@437 pros use a car bomb. See beirut numerous times and around the world.
asset (98ed99) — 4/28/2026 @ 10:31 pmShocking corruption and violation of the public trust on Donald Trump’s watch.
Dave (ab9657) — 4/28/2026 @ 11:46 pmTrump’s stooge at fcc goes after ABC broadcast stations licenses to serve his master. People who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones. I am no fan of corporate media ;but their loss will be our gain as we will demand our 2028 presidential candidates fcc appointees pull the licenses of every right wing station in America and all fox station licenses. Also go after faux news cable and satellite outlets. If SC rules against birthright citizenship pull the murdock’s citizenship and send them packing.
asset (98ed99) — 4/29/2026 @ 3:23 amKimmel’s lame joke was done after 2 previous assassination attempts and after he was kicked off the air for his vile remarks after Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
Yet you still defend his filth. Why?
NJRob (eb56c3) — 4/29/2026 @ 4:35 amShocking corruption and violation of the public trust on Donald Trump’s watch.
Dave (ab9657) — 4/28/2026 @ 11:46 pm
Even Dave’s ridiculous spin can’t rise above stupid.
lloyd (49bba2) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:52 am@426
What’s your recommendation then?
Mine: If one side acknowledges their past actions perpetuated this cycle, maybe those in current power can find enough grace to dial it down.
Do you see that happening in this case?
whembly (8a376b) — 4/29/2026 @ 8:15 amBoomity.
Dave will have the sadz.
whembly (8a376b) — 4/29/2026 @ 8:23 amBzzt. I looked up the indictment on PACER before posting to make sure of the dates.
The crimes Moreno is charged with began “in or about April 2020”. The nefarious Trump-spawned scheme continued into 2023.
The indictment lists 10(!) overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy committed on Trump’s watch.
The indictment is here: https://ecf.mdd.uscourts.gov/doc1/093115678640
I’m not sure whether it requires a PACER account (with some patience and persistance you can create a free account, as I did last year…).
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 9:47 amThe Morens indictment.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/29/2026 @ 9:53 amHaving read the text of the overturned amended section of the VRA (which passed the House 389-24, the Senate 85-8 and was signed into law by Ronald Reagan in 1982) I find the dissent somewhat persuasive.
It seems no precedent is safe from the Alito court.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 10:06 am@456
I very much doubt you’ve read the majority opinion if that’s your takaway.
whembly (8a376b) — 4/29/2026 @ 10:07 amI read the majority opinion for the first case, and Thomas’s concurrence.
I skipped the majority opinion for the second case, figuring it would be repetitive.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 10:14 amCourtesy of Drudge, the wags on Wall Street have coined a acronym to mock our brain-addled monarch.
TACO – Trump Always Chickens Out – originated on Wall St. last year.
This year, the new buzzword is
NACHO – Not A Chance Hormuz Opens
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 10:20 amWest Texas Intermediate crude oil is up to $107/barrel (+7.36%) while Brent crude is up to $119/barrel (+8.31%).
Related:
$10/gallon gas, anyone?
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/29/2026 @ 10:28 amI’m shocked Dave finds the racist, radical leftist opinion persuasive while not bothering with the Majority holding and trying to delegitimize it by calling it the Alito Court.
If only it was true that it was the Alito Court instead of the lefty leaning Roberts Court
NJRob (14994b) — 4/29/2026 @ 10:40 amThe laws should be enforced (obviously), especially those involving government accountability.
Trump and his lackeys are known to have intentionally destroyed, stolen and concealed official documents that they did not want to be preserved, or to answer for.
I’m not suggesting Morens should be excused if he broke the law, but when the people at the top show open disdain for the rules, everyone else probably will too.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 10:43 amWhy are you always telling lies about me, Rob?
I read the majority opinion for the first case, and Thomas’s concurrence.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 10:45 am435, you are 100% right and its appalling that the SS lacks your insight: imagine one guy runs in and detonates a suicide vest, others follow shooting as the SS remnant tried to recover their hearing or euesight, and figure out what was happening. They would have overwhelmed the SS. And 2 penetration people could have rushed into the venue.
Or as you suggested, 2 guys with automatic weapons could have cleared the room and enabled 2 others to rush in.
They should at a minimum, have had a barrier desk and agents in the hallway; someone in the lobby. I am just astonished at the feckless assessment that was made. As if they were guarding the entrance to a Swift concert.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 4/29/2026 @ 11:56 amDave’s upset because he thinks race-neutral means discriminate based on race like the leftists on the court do. That’s what the true conservative would believe.
NJRob (14994b) — 4/29/2026 @ 12:01 pmThis is what can happen when the Russian terrorist whom Trump loves and adores whispers 90 minutes of sweet lies into this mentally deranged president’s ears.
About that call…
Classic, that the Russian terrorist is accusing his victim of “purely terrorist methods”. That tack won’t work for anyone who actually knows what’s going on, but it could have seeped into Trump’s mushbrain.
Paul Montagu (75d183) — 4/29/2026 @ 12:42 pmLOL As we already learned upthread with Dave’s “seven J6 deaths” lie, he isn’t afraid to look ridiculous in defense of the Left.
lloyd (b7c663) — 4/29/2026 @ 12:45 pmNeither the Voting Rights Act nor the Constitution contain the words “race-neutral”, Rob.
The Fifteenth Amendment explicitly gives Congress authority to prevent efforts to deny or abridge anyone’s right to vote on the basis of race.
Section 2 of the VRA (as amended and signed into law by President Reagan in 1982) says:
[bold emphasis mine, italicized emphasis in the original]
The amendment signed by Reagan was to make clear that it was the effects (“…in a manner which results in…”), and not the intent, which matter.
The law also says that “The extent to which members of a protected class have been elected to office in the State or political subdivision is one circumstance which may be considered”. And it draws a clear line that even though minorities must have the same opportunities, there is no guarantee of equal or proportionate results.
The legacy of slavery and racial discrimination left a huge mess, and the VRA was a good-faith effort to help clean it up.
Today’s ruling seems to say: if you can draw 5 white-majority districts in a state which is 60-40 white, it’s perfectly fine if no black is ever elected again.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 12:48 pmSo much wishcasting in this. Sad.
lloyd (b7c663) — 4/29/2026 @ 12:49 pmUnitary Executive Theory
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 12:52 pmOh look, Dave found another rabbit hole to hide in.
lloyd (b7c663) — 4/29/2026 @ 12:58 pmWhile lloyd just moves right along from his false claim about when the crimes took place, and on to the next lie…
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 1:04 pm@468
And now I know you didn’t read it the majority opinion.
The majority holds that it requires strict scrutiny on all such applications of Section 2.
There is nothing in Section 2 that mandates minority-majority districts.
In other words, districting strictly by race is now unconstitutional.
whembly (8a376b) — 4/29/2026 @ 1:05 pmAs I told you, I did.
The law spells out what constitutes a violation.
The law says that whether minority candidates are elected or not “may be considered” in establishing a violation:
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 1:23 pmI understood Alito to say: if you can show that it’s possible to create 5 Republican majority districts, one of which happens to also be majority black, then and only then can you invoke Section 2 and argue that blacks “have less opportunity than other members of the electorate to participate in the political process and to elect representatives of their choice”.
But I don’t think majority-Republican districts that are also majority black can be drawn very often.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 1:43 pmI still think you’re misreading the majority.
There is no possible way for a minority plaintiff to argue that these minorities districts have been locked out of redistricting decisions, not recently and not for a long time.
What the majority SCOTUS ruling will do is prevent absurd gerrymanders explicitly based on race, ie that LA district, as mandated by the VRA for section 2 rationale.
Section 2 clearly doesn’t mandate that.
Only that minorities has the same opportunities as do non-minorities.
Lemme give you several examples:
The current push in VA would be totally fine under this VRA doctrine, and even federally non-justiciable, because its obviously a partisan gerrymander, rather than racial. (notwithstanding the current issues with state laws)
Likewise the new Florida district maps, approved today, is totally fine because the criterions were driven by factors other than race. The 3 new likely Dems district are compact (unlike VA) and very partisan (like VA). (notwithstanding the current issues with state laws)
What’s explicitly prohibited, is to creating districts, with the main reason based on race. The LA map in question had a knarly gerrymander for the 2nd minority-district was built as a way to protect several GOP incumbent at the same time.
All of this could’ve been avoided, if people would simply embrace CJ Robert’s “stop discriminating on the basis of race.“
whembly (8a376b) — 4/29/2026 @ 2:01 pmHelp me parse this sentence, I can’t understand it.
That’s the opposite of what the law says.
It says denying minorities the opportunity to elect candidates of their choice is a violation (abridgement of their voting rights under the 15th amendment). The VRA explicitly says that it is the effects which matter, and not the intent of the map-makers (that was the major element of the 1982 amendment, since under the original wording minority opportunities had been diluted by facially or ostensibly race-neutral measures where the court could not show intent, even if the effects were obvious).
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 2:27 pmYour racism is noted. You seem to think people can only vote for their race. You spit in the face of MLK.
NJRob (14994b) — 4/29/2026 @ 2:30 pm@477
SCOTUS says otherwise.
whembly (a23d63) — 4/29/2026 @ 2:32 pmRep Josh Williams calls you out on your racism. Do better.
NJRob (14994b) — 4/29/2026 @ 2:40 pmThe Voting rights Act should protect voters not politicians.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/29/2026 @ 2:44 pmI said nothing of the kind. Please stop lying Rob.
The ~13% of Blacks who vote Republican (2024 exit poll result) will not be bothered much by this, it’s true.
This breakdown is also evident in Congress, where 85% of minority representatives are Democrats, and 15% are Republicans.
Anyone can read what the law says for themselves, and it says:
The extent to which members of a protected class have been elected to office in the State or political subdivision is one circumstance which may be considered
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 3:08 pmThe next Trump bailout target :
Rip Murdock (a4bf55) — 4/29/2026 @ 3:11 pmLiar
Liar
Liar
Receipts are all upthread.
lloyd (240e2d) — 4/29/2026 @ 3:38 pmArguably, that’s what it was doing.
Partisan gerrymanders have been determined to be non-justiciable.
If you had a racially-monolithic population, it would be legal to divide the districts in any way whatsoever (with equal population).
So in an all-white or all-black state, with a 60-40 partisan split, the 60 party could arrange to monopolize the districts, and it would be perfectly legal.
Now consider a hypothetical 60-40 state where party and race are 100% correlated. As Rob will hasten to remind us, this is not the true situation, but it is closer to reality than the opposite assumption of uncorrelation. Without claiming that this represents any real state, let’s see what would happen as a limiting case.
Without the VRA, assuming the majority party aimed to maximize its seats, no minority party candidate would ever be elected, just as in the single-race 60-40 state. But the VRA treats this outcome as unacceptable, in light of the 15th Amendment. While it lasted, it protected minority voters from the most savage partisan gerrymandering (it makes partisan gerrymandering somewhat less effective, limiting it to maps that don’t entirely extinguish minority representation).
But now that protection is gone.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 3:41 pmI believe both parties want to win, and care about the political leanings of a district, not skin color. For example, the Republicans would take a majority-minority district that leans Republican over a white-majority district that leans Democratic.
I dislike Biden’s “If you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black” school of thought.
norcal (3f5bf8) — 4/29/2026 @ 3:53 pmYes, but under the VRA as amended in 1982, intent is unimportant.
No disagreement there.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 4:19 pmHegseth lies in House hearing
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 4:35 pm@NJRob@450 1. As previously established, I’m a freedom of speech person. 2. Kimmel’s joke was about Melania having married a much older man and hoping to inherit, which is tasteless but still free speech. 3. If one of your movement’s slogans is “Fvck your feelings” I don’t think you get to be twee about your feelings.
nic (120c94) — 4/29/2026 @ 4:40 pmnic (120c94) — 4/29/2026 @ 4:40 pm
Plus, Kimmel’s joke was a few days prior to the event. He had no way of knowing what was going to happen.
It’s manufactured outrage.
norcal (3f5bf8) — 4/29/2026 @ 4:52 pmA moderate (I guess?) Dem trashes Hasan Piker:
Hasan Piker and the Limits of the Big Tent (gift link)
Amen.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 4:52 pm490, true, but tasteless just the same. “Jokes” implicitly about someone dying are generally not funny, and in a political context, should be regarded as low-life behavior.
Even with a 75 year old actor with a 25 y/o wife there are ways of joking about the age diff w/o mentioning death.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 4/29/2026 @ 5:04 pm488, Dave-
Obama fired enough high-ranking officers. Its not so atypical that the left should be trying to manufacture a case of the vapors over it.
The figure 194 or 197 was not a “lie,” any more than Obama ‘capaigning in 57 states’ was a lie. It was an error. A mistake.
No one contests that the president has the power to relieve those people. So the debate over the number is silly–a rabbit hole one might say.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 4/29/2026 @ 5:14 pmSo you are 100% in support of detransitioning counseling and pro-life birth centers. You are in favor of those who support counseling away homosexual feelings and are against the government in leftist states like your own that restrict such behaviors. Right?
NJRob (eb56c3) — 4/29/2026 @ 5:58 pmI wouldn’t outlaw “counseling away homosexual feelings”, but then again, I wouldn’t outlaw Flat Earthers, either. They’re both about as credible.
norcal (3f5bf8) — 4/29/2026 @ 6:33 pmHe knew of at least two prior assassination attempts.
lloyd (071470) — 4/29/2026 @ 6:58 pmHe knew of at least two prior assassination attempts.
lloyd (071470) — 4/29/2026 @ 6:58 pm
Even so, Melania seems like a gold digger to me. Look at the age gap, and the looks gap. Even after Trump diddled Stormy Daniels, she stayed. That’s what makes the joke funny.
norcal (3f5bf8) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:14 pmNo. The joke was not funny. It was cruel.
You only find it funny because your hate of Trump overrides all other objective observations.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:23 pmYou only find it funny because your hate of Trump overrides all other objective observations.
NJRob (eb56c3) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:23 pm
No. I’d laugh at any gold digger joke, left or right. I’m not broken by partisanship like you are, Rob. You beat that same tribal drum, over and over. Democrats bad, Republicans good, right?
Neither life nor politics is that simple.
norcal (3f5bf8) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:28 pmNursing tribal grievances, and seeing politics through a Manichean lens, cannot make for a happy life.
norcal (3f5bf8) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:30 pmEver see Gold Diggers of 1933? Pre-code Hollywood is a gas…
With a 22 year-old Ginger Rogers belting out We’re in the Money in pig Latin…
😮
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:39 pmDave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:39 pm
My mother led me to watch old movies. Now I love them. I don’t enjoy musicals, though.
norcal (3f5bf8) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:43 pmAs opposed to posting a photo on Instagram of sea shells, here’s a real terroristic threat:
Paragraph breaks added.
Rip Murdock (ef29f0) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:55 pmNext you’ll tell us you understood the joke before it was explained to you.
Since you dislike Trump even more, I take it you thought Kathy Griffin’s Trump severed head joke was hilarious. Surprise me.
Melania has a son and, like a lot of folks, probably put up with a lot to keep the family together. That probably means nothing to you since it gets in the way of a good joke. When you don’t have any skin in the game, as JD put it, thinking about just yourself avoids a lot of tough messy decisions. Best to sit from afar, point and laugh. The joke’s sort of on you.
lloyd (49c7ac) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:56 pmNot my usual cup of tea either, but that one was a fascinating trip back in time, with references to the depression, the war, etc. Several of the musical numbers are striking in the originality and creativity of their production.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:59 pmNot my usual cup of tea either, but that one was a fascinating trip back in time, with references to the depression, the war, etc. Several of the musical numbers are striking in the originality and creativity of their production.
Dave (4eac41) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:59 pm@NJRob@494:
Detransitioning therapy is actually a really necessary thing for a person who is detransitioning, just the same way someone should have therapy if they are going to transition in the first place.
Pro-life birth centers, sure, as long as they are upfront that that is who they are.
Counseling that works on homosexual feelings/actions/lifestyles, as long as they aren’t defrauding people and are ethical about it, sure. I think it’s not very effective and I don’t think it’s a great idea to be in a mixed orientation marriage or spend your life celibate and alone if you aren’t called to that, but people have a right to live their lives.
nic (120c94) — 4/29/2026 @ 8:23 pmPete hegseth attacks journalists at pentagon briefing for not being loyal to his fuhrer. Dr. Samuel Johnson 250 years ago said about people like this dry drunk. Appeals to patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Good ;but Sameul Johnson’s best was when asked what he thought of the american revolution going on at the time said: “It appears to me that those screaming the loudest about freedom and liberty are the slave holding southerners!”
asset (f90157) — 4/29/2026 @ 10:25 pm@453 dirty little secret white democrats happy black district voters are spread into white districts giving white democrats better chance to win with more minorities put into them. Even though they feign outrage. Also black democrats who are corrupt (like bribe taking) more easily voted out so they are more careful in their grift.
asset (f90157) — 4/29/2026 @ 10:34 pmWhere Trump got his inspiration for his latest addition to Doral.
Meantime, here’s the “deep rough” near the 9th hole at Bedminster.
Paul Montagu (75d183) — 4/30/2026 @ 6:56 am@485
Do you not realize how racist you sound here?
Re-read this again. Please. I truly don’t believe you are trying to be racist, but your fundamental worldview is skewing you badly.
whembly (fc6f4e) — 4/30/2026 @ 7:07 am@490
Don’t care about manufactured outrage claims.
A freaking rodeo clown lost his job because he wore an Obama mask.
whembly (fc6f4e) — 4/30/2026 @ 7:09 amOne of the good things happening in the US is the slow recovery of our civil rights laws from the decades-long attacks (mostly from the left). The Supreme Court deserves the most credit for that recovery.
The recent decision on “majority-minority” districts is a good example of that recovery. As Chief Justice John Roberts said, back in 2005, “the way to stop discrimination on the basis of race is to stop discriminating on the basis of race.”
Incidentally, the decision is likely to help the Democratic Party in the long run. The central idea behind gerrymandering is to concentrate the other party’s voters in a few districts; majority/minority districts often do exactly that. When the idea was first discussed, I expected unscrupulous Republicans to work with minority Democrats who wanted safe seats — and that does appear to have happened in some states.
Jim Miller (ef6300) — 4/30/2026 @ 7:12 amIt’s a grim milestone, our national debt now exceeding our GDP.
Under Trump, our national debt went from $36.05 trillion on Inauguration Day to $39.18 trillion right now, an increase of $3.13 trillion in a little over 15 months. This shouldn’t be appalling just to fiscal conservatives.
If Trump gets his proposal to increase defense spending by 42%, to $1.5 trillion, will only and obviously worsen out debt and interest-payment situation.
Paul Montagu (75d183) — 4/30/2026 @ 10:07 amPersonally, I don’t see a problem with adding four seats to the Supreme Court,as long as Democrats pick two and Republicans pick two, to start. I would also add a couple Circuit Courts and reapportion them so they’re more proportionate to the populations they serve.
Paul Montagu (75d183) — 4/30/2026 @ 11:30 amThe 9th Circuit, for example, is out of date and out of whack, presiding over 9 states and 67 million folks
Unlikely to change.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/30/2026 @ 1:25 pmOut:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/30/2026 @ 1:31 pmOut II:
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/30/2026 @ 1:42 pmNope. Not one iota of racism.
Dave (adac4e) — 4/30/2026 @ 1:54 pmIf Chief Justice Roberts wants to rewrite the country’s civil rights laws, he should run for Congress.
Pursuant to the explicit authority granted by the 15th Amendment, Congress overwhelmingly passed a law saying you cannot arrange things to deny minorities equal opportunity to elect candidates they support. The law says that this is forbidden even if there was no racially discriminatory intent, but merely the effect.
Dave (adac4e) — 4/30/2026 @ 2:11 pmThe amended version of Section 2 that Alito repealed by fiat was drafted by Bob Dole, and signed into law by Ronald Reagan.
Dave (adac4e) — 4/30/2026 @ 2:29 pmlloyd (49c7ac) — 4/29/2026 @ 7:56 pm
She probably threatened to leave him (she had been his mistress for around 6 years) unless he agreed to marry her and agree to be a father to a child. This was in 2005. His son Barron was born in 2006.
She did say his money was part of the reason for his attractiveness..
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/30/2026 @ 2:43 pmThe 1982 amendments were a distortion of the original purpose of the Voting Rights Act.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/30/2026 @ 2:45 pmPresident Trump put pressure on House Republicans and they finally passed the bill ending the shutdown that was agreed to weeks ago. Holdout Republicans had insisted they wanted progress on the reconciliation bill funding ICE till the of Trump’s term before they would vote for the bill funding all parts of DHS not connected with immigration. House Democrats I guess were still insisting on changes to the way ICE worked.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/30/2026 @ 2:48 pmTrump had claimed he couldn’t divert more money to pay the other parts of Homeland Security.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/30/2026 @ 2:51 pmIran Foreign Minister said Iran planned to attack the U.S. Navy and the U.S. is getting ready for more bombing.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/30/2026 @ 2:53 pm1020 years ago, light from this event reached earth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SN_1006
Jim Miller (d8556f) — 4/30/2026 @ 2:56 pmIran is using junk storage in possibly leaky containers and trying to ship crude oil by rail to China.
UAE left OPEC and 20 ships went through the strait
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/30/2026 @ 2:56 pm#521 I had not realized that Justice Alito had that many votes on the Supreme Court.
Jim Miller (d8556f) — 4/30/2026 @ 2:59 pmMark Simone said a number of times on WOR that a mistake made at the WHCA dinner was that they didn’t do what they do for cars at military bases – not create a zig zag path in front of the checkpoint. Cars can’t go fast. But the would-be assassin could run at the checkpoint.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/30/2026 @ 3:00 pm60 days
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/30/2026 @ 3:04 pmhttps://apnews.com/article/iran-us-gulf-khamenei-5cbf26dc89ce5e868e414320178f4c1b
Or whoever wrote that. Although if e’s only half out of it, he’d likely sign on to that.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/30/2026 @ 3:10 pmGovernor of Maine drops put of Senate primary before the election. She was doing very badly in the polls.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 4/30/2026 @ 3:12 pmMs. Meloni is a remarkable leader, not afraid to stand up to a bully.
Paul Montagu (75d183) — 4/30/2026 @ 3:16 pmMy fellow Republicans, take note. This alienation by Trump of yet another country was wholly unnecessary.
Starbucks to open a $100 million corporate office in Tennessee, which will employ 2,000. And there’s some related news…
It’s what happens when you have a socialist mayor and a liberal governor who got a new income tax passed. Starbucks says they’ll keep their HQ in Seattle, but I remember Clayton Bennett promising the Sonics would stay in town, so…
Paul Montagu (75d183) — 4/30/2026 @ 3:32 pmIt’s what happens when you have a socialist mayor and a liberal governor who got a new income tax passed. Starbucks says they’ll keep their HQ in Seattle, but I remember Clayton Bennett promising the Sonics would stay in town, so…
Paul Montagu (75d183) — 4/30/2026 @ 3:32 pm
The mayor and governor are just the latest examples of people who study too much philosophy, and not enough economics.
norcal (dfc6c0) — 4/30/2026 @ 3:35 pmMy best friend, who lives in Camas, Washington, is talking about moving to another state.
It worked for me. I left California for Nevada years ago.
norcal (dfc6c0) — 4/30/2026 @ 3:37 pmTalk about long shots:
Never heard of a Peace Prize winner who started wars.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 4/30/2026 @ 5:13 pm508, nothing like using an English author to define the American Revolution.
Harcourt Fenton Mudd (0c349e) — 4/30/2026 @ 5:23 pmAnwar Sadat.
His co-lauriate, Menachem Begin, had a rather bloody and violent past too.
And then there was Yasser Arafat.
Despite Sadat’s role in starting the Yom Kippur war, the Camp David agreements were a courageous act on his part, and deserved recognition (they have preserved peace between Egypt and Israel for almost 50 years).
Dave (4eac41) — 4/30/2026 @ 7:35 pm@511 see my post at 509.
asset (7248c4) — 4/30/2026 @ 9:27 pmApril 30, 1975 for the first time ;but not the last America was run out of a country fleeing the angry natives. Afganistan August 30, 2021. Iran … 30, 2026.
asset (7248c4) — 4/30/2026 @ 9:32 pmThe odds that President Trump receiving the Nobel Peace Prize are still an extreme long shot.
I would add Henry Kissinger/Le Duc Tho to list of those who fought wars and inexplicably won the Nobel Peace Prize. The fact that Arafat also received the award devalues it considerably.
The only reason the cold peace of the Camp David accords have held up is the fact that Egypt is ruled by a military dictatorship and the fact Israel is militarily much stronger than Egypt (plus the $1.3B Egypt receives annually in foreign aid from the US.)
Rip Murdock (275bc0) — 4/30/2026 @ 9:48 pmNBC news angers trump/hegseth by reporting them saying Iran’s military has been destroyed is untrue despite them being threatened. Today trump says he is going to destroy Iran’s military after continuously saying it has already been destroyed. BTW who really shot the secret service agent?
asset (7248c4) — 5/1/2026 @ 12:57 am@519
Simply amazing Dave.
Unaware racism is a spectacle to behold…
whembly (fc6f4e) — 5/1/2026 @ 6:18 am@521
The War Powers act is likely unconstitutional (I’m leaning that way).
If congress disapproves these things, they can pass funding (or defunding) if any war activities.
whembly (fc6f4e) — 5/1/2026 @ 6:25 am@543
C’mon, it ain’t happening.
whembly (fc6f4e) — 5/1/2026 @ 6:27 amTrump’s meme coin scam is going as expected.
Paul Montagu (b0e1ba) — 5/1/2026 @ 7:01 amThe little guys lost their shirts and whales cashed in. Its price peaked near Inauguration Day and has lost 95% of its value.
Three-quarters of Trump’s $4 billion in earnings were from his crypto scams, and it’s paid off.
whembly, could you explicate your reasoning for why you think Dave’s comment was racist. I’m fairly attuned to unintentional racism, but I’m just not seeing it there.
Nate (be5ee2) — 5/1/2026 @ 7:15 amYep.
The Guardian piece was in July 2021, based on Kremlin source documents.
Paul Montagu (b0e1ba) — 5/1/2026 @ 7:18 am@549
It stems from the idea that minorities ought to be able to reasonably elect other minorities.
That’s what Dave’s analysis that the VRA “protects”.
That’s racist.
Here’s the quote again:
whembly (fc6f4e) — 5/1/2026 @ 9:13 amAs I explained very carefully, I considered a hypothetical limiting case where race and party were 100% correlated. In that scenario, therms “white”, “republican” and “majority” are synonymous, and “black”, “democrat” and “minority” are likewise interchangeable.
In the real world, race and voting are not 100% correlated, but – especially in the rural south – they are far from uncorrelated, either. For example, according to Fox News exit polls, 82% of whites in Mississippi voted for Trump in 2024, and 82% of blacks voted for Harris.
The VRA, as amended and signed into law by Ronald Reagan, says you cannot lawfully deny minorities equal opportunity “to elect representatives of their choice”. No intention to discriminate on the basis of race is necessary – the effect is unlawful no matter how it is brought about (the purpose of the 1982 amendment was to strengthen the VRA in this regard). The law further says “The extent to which members of a protected class have been elected to office in the State or political subdivision is one circumstance which may be considered”.
Dave (09cdd0) — 5/1/2026 @ 10:52 amThe War Powers Act’s constitutionality is not for a President to decide .
Rip Murdock (a4bf55) — 5/1/2026 @ 10:58 amThis piece in The Atlantic articulates a lot of my concerns:
Voters Can Be Disenfranchised Now – Just say it’s because they’re Democrats (gift link)
Dave (09cdd0) — 5/1/2026 @ 11:10 amThere were two magnetometers. Only one had been taken apart at the time the perpetrator tried to race into the ballroom. He apparently fell because he hit one of them.
Sammy Finkelman (e4ef09) — 5/1/2026 @ 2:14 pm@554 The black voters can still vote in their new districts they are not stopped from voting. If you are a republican who’s district went from 5% black & 5% latinx to a district that is 25% black and 10% latinx How many white democrats will be in the district. The minimum in most districts is at least 20% This is why Indiana refused to redistrict fearing a wave election in 2026. Also many democrats have changed their registration to unaffiliated or indepnedent making it harder to gerrymander them.
asset (8a6b76) — 5/2/2026 @ 2:45 am