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2/20/2023

Unsurprising: Kevin McCarthy Gives Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access To Substantial Number of Jan. 6 Security Tapes

Filed under: General — Dana @ 6:51 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Remember this:

House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy sent a letter to the House select committee investigating January 6, 2021…demanding that it preserve all records and transcripts and vowing to hold hearings next year on the security failures that led to the US Capitol breach.

After winning the House majority earlier this month, Republicans made it clear they will prioritize investigating President Joe Biden and his administration on a variety of fronts. The latest warning from McCarthy, who is vying to be House speaker, signals that Republicans may also use some of their time in the next Congress attempting to rewrite the narrative of the insurrection.

“It is imperative that all information collected be preserved not just for institutional prerogatives but for transparency to the American people,” wrote McCarthy, who did not comply with a subpoena to appear before the committee. “The American people have a right to know that the allegations you have made are supported by the facts.”

Interestingly, when the opportunity arose for McCarthy to give access to a trove of Jan. 6 security tapes, rather than Congress or investigators being the recipients, the Speaker opted to give that access to none other than…Tucker Two-Faced Carlson. Axios has the exclusive:

House Speaker Kevin McCarthy has given Fox News’ Tucker Carlson exclusive access to 41,000 hours of Capitol surveillance footage from the Jan. 6 riot, McCarthy sources tell me.

Carlson TV producers were on Capitol Hill last week to begin digging through the trove, which includes multiple camera angles from all over Capitol grounds. Excerpts will begin airing in the coming weeks…Carlson has repeatedly questioned official accounts of 1/6, downplaying the insurrection as “vandalism.”

Now his shows — “Tucker Carlson Tonight” on Fox News, and “Tucker Carlson Today” and “Tucker Carlson Originals” on the streaming service Fox Nation — have a massive trove of raw material. Carlson told me: “[T]here was never any legitimate reason for this footage to remain secret.”

“If there was ever a question that’s in the public’s interest to know, it’s what actually happened on January 6. By definition, this video will reveal it. It’s impossible for me to understand why any honest person would be bothered by that.”

While Carlson’s involvement with the tapes began in early February, we learned only last week that the Fox News host, along with his colleagues and Fox executives, had accepted that Trump lost the 2020 election. However, they were nonetheless happy to go on air and hypocritically peddle Trump’s election lies and privately disparage their election conspiracy guests. Integrity meant (and means) nothing to Carlson, et al. What mattered (and matters) to these grifters is making bank via happy viewers and high ratings. That’s it. Everything else is superfluous.

The hosts Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity and Laura Ingraham, as well as others at the company, repeatedly insulted and mocked Trump advisers, including Sidney Powell and Rudolph W. Giuliani, in text messages with each other in the weeks after the election, according to a legal filing on Thursday by Dominion Voting Systems…

“Sidney Powell is lying by the way. I caught her. It’s insane,” Mr. Carlson wrote to Ms. Ingraham on Nov. 18, 2020.

Ms. Ingraham responded: “Sidney is a complete nut. No one will work with her. Ditto with Rudy.”

Mr. Carlson continued, “Our viewers are good people and they believe it,” he added, making clear that he did not.

On Nov. 12, in a text chain with Ms. Ingraham and Mr. Hannity, Mr. Carlson pointed to a tweet in which a Fox reporter, Jacqui Heinrich, fact-checked a tweet from Mr. Trump referring to Fox broadcasts and said there was no evidence of voter fraud from Dominion.

“Please get her fired,” Mr. Carlson said. He added: “It needs to stop immediately, like tonight. It’s measurably hurting the company. The stock price is down. Not a joke.” Ms. Heinrich had deleted her tweet by the next morning.

So this is who has exclusive access to 41,000 Jan. 6 security tapes. And this is the greatest irony of all:

–Dana

131 Responses to “Unsurprising: Kevin McCarthy Gives Tucker Carlson Exclusive Access To Substantial Number of Jan. 6 Security Tapes”

  1. Ka-ching! Ka-ching!

    Dana (1225fc)

  2. Is there nobody that McCarthy has not sold out to?

    nk (c758b1)

  3. “He will also cover up parts that don’t fit his narrative”

    why should the committee have all the fun?

    JF (81f5df)

  4. This the same committee that actwd like a prosecution and banned the defense? Modern day star chamber.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  5. Lawsuit for equal access by the other media outlets, if any, who care in 3, 2, 1. One of the hardest things for government discriminate on is the First Amendment.

    nk (c758b1)

  6. There must be 6 House Republicans who would rather have no speaker than this speaker.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  7. Modern day star chamber.

    How does Tucker say “star chamber” in Russian?

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  8. At some point Murdoch has got to wake up and smell the napalm.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  9. This is all about Trump. The man has found some corner of the GOP that he has not perverted and destroyed. I have been in some bad relationships, but I walked away LONG before it got to this stage. It’s not going to get better.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  10. Curious, McCarthy’s comment that “the American people have a right to know that the allegations you have made are supported by the facts.” They do have a right to know, and the facts have been easily known for awhile. The scorecard is now 1,003 criminal indictments, including 199 charged for assault.

    Anyways, the fact that McCarthy is giving the tapes to a politicized talking head says well enough about his motivations. I expect Carlson will use the footage to declare that there wasn’t an insurrection after all.

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7)

  11. i think it is very nice of mr. trump to share his marks with mr. murdock, actually

    (i was going to say i think it is very nice of mr. trump to share his marks with mr. murdock, honestly, but something did not seem to fit somehow)

    nk (c758b1)

  12. Carlson will manufacture a narrative from some tapes and attempt to lay waste to the Jan. 6 committee findings, cast doubt on the insurrection, and thus by extension, help Trump’s re-election campaign by portraying him as persecuted victim and returned savior to his supporters.

    Dana (1225fc)

  13. Not saying I am a fan of McCarthy giving tapes to Tucker Carlson, but Carlson signed a multi year contract with Fox that had nothing to do with this tape, predated this tape. If this idiot tweeter can show me receipts of Carlson getting a pay bump for this, I will retract, but until he can put up proof, then shut up.

    steveg (7e4fa7)

  14. I took it as him referring to specials, interviews, and maybe even a Tucker Carlson book coming from his access to the tapes, etc. publicity galore that could easily translate into big bucks.There are a number of potential projects that could financially benefit him, aside from his contract salary. Also, if pulls in some big ratings, he’s on a stronger position to demand more money from Fox. The ways to profit on this seem pretty wide open.

    Dana (1225fc)

  15. If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. At least thats what they tell me.

    asset (5601e3)

  16. Pie in the sky when you die

    steveg (7e4fa7)

  17. What mattered (and matters) to these grifters is making bank via happy viewers and high ratings. That’s it. Everything else is superfluous.

    Yep. EVERYTHING. You’ve boiled down the cable news business model to its essence. “And that’s the way it is:”

    ‘Television is a God-damned amusement park! Television is a circus, a carnival, a traveling troupe of acrobats, storytellers, dancers, singers, jugglers, side-show freaks, lion tamers, and football players. We’re in the boredom-killing business! So if you want the truth… Go to God! Go to your gurus! Go to yourselves! Because that’s the only place you’re ever going to find any real truth.’ – Howard Beale [Peter Finch] ‘Network’ 1976

    DCSCA (308616)

  18. Dana- In case that seemed harsh, I was trying to say that you have to wait for someone to profiteer before you can berate them for profiteering

    steveg (7e4fa7)

  19. Filipkowski himself has never leveraged a connection.

    Attorney, Marine, Fmr Fed Prosec & Repub; now Def Att & Dem. Chair of Normal Caucus, Track & Report on the Right-Wing. Seen on BBC, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, Al-Jazeera.

    Al Jazeera? MSNBC? Oh? They’re neutral.

    steveg (7e4fa7)

  20. I’m basing my opinion on what we learned about Carlson last week, which frankly only confirmed what I’ve long suspected him of being: a dishonest, greedy hack who will say and do almost anything to stay at the top of the ratings game because that’s how the big bucks are made.

    Dana (1225fc)

  21. Dana, I don’t disagree. But I think, boiling frog style, that many of these talking heads started out believing in things. Then slowly became co-opted and modified and changed.

    I wish I had a magic wand to have their twenty five year old selves visit their current selves…and see in horror what they have become.

    Simon Jester (0d54cc)

  22. Simon Jester,

    I agree. Something definitely happened. But not just to talking heads. I think that happened to a large number of Americans as well. They once firmly believed in certain things, and were open just enough to be lured in, or co-opted, modified, and changed. But without a certain willingness to allow that transition, it wouldn’t have taken hold. When people think back to where they were politically and who they’d want to see in the Oval even 10 years ago, what sort of disparity would there be?

    Dana (1225fc)

  23. Dana
    Good evening, here is an opinion. Sunlight is the best disinfectant
    Let us see the videos used to convict and let us come to our own conclusions? My guess is Carlson will highlight the “weakest of the sauce”. Is that scary? I think the weakest sauce (ie: equal to or less than what code pink got away with in disrupting proceedings) should be open sourced regardless to who is the chosen messenger.

    steveg (7e4fa7)

  24. @20. I’m basing my opinion on what we learned about Carlson last week, which frankly only confirmed what I’ve long suspected him of being: a dishonest, greedy hack who will say and do almost anything to stay at the top of the ratings game because that’s how the big bucks are made.

    Well, you know his checkered record of flameouts at news cablers MSNBC and CNN over the years- back in the bow tie days… He was gifted a lucrative time slot at Fox when the S.S. O’Reilly sank, in which to sink or swim… and rose to the surface to be the ‘floater’ everybody loves to hate. Though lest you forget, Tucka is an heir to the Swanson TV dinner fortune… so one can believe $ isn’t really a motivation for him. It’s not failing yet again as a talking head in the radio and TeeVee Pundit Universe.

    DCSCA (06bcb3)

  25. Dana #23: I agree. There is a fundamental disconnect going on. Part of it is our weird Yelpified society. We find it so easy to find fault and snippily critique others with petty name calling (which we somehow have decided is brave and honest). It is so much rarer to find things to admire about others, even heaven forbid, people with whom we disagree on other issues. Everything has become sloganeering and name calling and too often capering with glee as things fall apart. About scoring points. And a weird faux-macho has become involved that seems directed toward personal insults as a replacement for genuine debate and discussion.

    This is why I think all of us, as a nation, have to ask what we truly believe and stand for. It’s not an easy question. The “it’s different when my people do it” is a corrosive cynical strategy that is partially responsible for this current mess. We need more debate and less debasement.

    But whataboutwhataboutwhatabout is the usual response. I reply: what do you believe, and why? If someone you dislike does something good, can you say so? And if someone you like does something you abhor, can you say that as well?

    My late father used to tell me that the only fair or just law (or rule) is one you do not mind in the hands of your bitterest enemy.

    So who knows how this mad race to the bottom will end? I’m prejudiced because I see madness, hypocrisy, and performative showing off on campus every single day. I want to have hope.

    Simon Jester (0d54cc)

  26. How do you get at the truth? Socrates, hegal and kierkegaard used the dialectic method and so do I. Thesis anti-thesis synthesis. What they don’t want you to know is news, what they want you to know is propaganda. When I want news on democrats I turn to faux news. When want new on republicans msdnc. On non political news cnn or radio news even newspapers.

    asset (5601e3)

  27. There was no insurrection. No matter how many times you repeat it it does not make it true.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  28. Insurrection: “a violent uprising against an authority or government.”
    –Oxford Dictionary.

    Yup.

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7)

  29. Ideologue: “one who is uncompromising and dogmatic. An often blindly partisan advocate or adherent of a particular ideology”

    AJ_Liberty (03fa69)

  30. Republican voter: The triumph of hope over experience.

    nk (c758b1)

  31. Democrat voter: The triumph of dope over experience.

    JF (81f5df)

  32. more this

    When I want news on democrats I turn to faux news. When want new on republicans msdnc. On non political news cnn or radio news even newspapers.
    asset (5601e3) — 2/21/2023 @ 1:02 am

    JF (81f5df)

  33. Here is a conspiracy theory:

    1. Fox is concerned with its competitors on the right — Newsmax and OneAmerica and maybe a Trump News in the future.

    2. McCarthy needs to act the part of a right wing lunatic if he is going to hold onto his seat. He doesn’t necessarily want to be a right wing lunatic, but he really wants to be speaker.

    3. Tucker & McCarthy make a deal. Tucker freezes the little rightwing networks from all the “good stuff” McCarthy holds. McCarthy, by helping out Tucker, looks like a right wing nutjob the GOP seems to want. BUT

    4. Somehow, the 1-6 tapes turn out to be yet another damp squib. Tucker covers them — sure — but in a boring way that doesn’t excite the juices.

    5. This makes the Fox brass happy, as they have decided that Trump might just be bad for business and what’s the point of giving him any oxygen. And, at the same time, the little competitors don’t have the tapes that might draw eyeballs away from their network.

    This assums that Fox is a cynical operation wedded to profits more than ideology. But that’s the Fox the recent deposition has revealed, isn’t it?

    Appalled (e0cab9)

  34. So, are these Tucker’s tapes or Fox’s? It might matter if Fox decides to back away from the Devil’s Mouth.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  35. Paul,

    So you.are saying all those antifa and BLM riots that burned cop cars, the closed court building, took over a neighborhood was an insurrection?

    Good to know.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  36. Axios article says they are Tucker’s.

    Appalled (3b8b56)

  37. “Insurrection” troubles me, too. “Attempted coup d’etat” seems closer to me given the participation of Trump, his cronies on and off the government payroll, and the pro-Trump members of Congress who tried to sabotage the Electoral Vote count. The sans culottes who stormed the Capitol were the cannon fodder.

    nk (c758b1)

  38. But still, when BLM and Antifa storm the Capitol to install their choice of President instead of the one who was duly elected, I could see people calling them “insurrectionists”.

    nk (c758b1)

  39. Nobody who stormed the Capitol doctored a FISA warrant, peddled a fake dossier to the FBI, who payed for it, or had an “insurance policy” triggered by an illegal leak of classified info to WaPo.

    yeah, coup d’etat sounds about right, nk

    JF (81f5df)

  40. I’m sure Tucker will use the highest journalistic standards and not just create propaganda to diminish the violence of that day and drive ratings. Right?

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3)

  41. They probably never had dinner with Putin in Moscow and were later appointed National Security Advisor until they were arrested, indicted, and pleaded guilty to lying about their continued dealings in DC with the Russian ambassador, either.

    All this banana republic stuff you “waddabout” was under Trump’s watch, and it was reason enough to vote him out all by itself. He was lazy and incompetent. He bullsh!tted his way into the job but wasn’t up to it.

    nk (c758b1)

  42. @41. I’m sure Tucker will use the highest journalistic standards and not just create propaganda to diminish the violence of that day and drive ratings. Right?

    You know why a doughnut isn’t a sausage link? Because it’s not. Tucka is not now nor ever was a ‘journalist.’

    DCSCA (054bd7)

  43. Dubya inherited Clinton’s Deep State. Obama inherited Dubya’s Deep State. Biden inherited Trump’s Deep State. Did any of them twiddle their marbles and rant about “disloyal officers”? Trump is not only a loser who loses even when he cheats, he is a pathetic crybaby.

    nk (c758b1)

  44. Off topic but interesting.

    I decided to see if I could find if either McCarthy or Tucker had said anything about this deal. Neither have. But when I went to the Speaker’s twitter feed, twitter suggested I might want to follow one of two Matt Gaetz feeds.

    Is Musk trolling McCarthy? 🙂

    Appalled (a1ee9d)

  45. So you.are saying all those antifa and BLM riots that burned cop cars, the closed court building, took over a neighborhood was an insurrection?

    Antifa? Most likely, as their delusional goal is to overthrow the US government.
    BLM? Case by case.
    Should they all be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for breaking the law by morphing from protesters to rioters? Absolutely.
    Any other questions you’d like me to answer for myself?

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7)

  46. There may or may not have been an attempted insurrection, but there was certainly a seditious conspiracy, to overthrow the government, which sure sounds like an attempted insurrection. And the government has the jury verdicts and guilty pleas to prove it.

    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  47. Releasing the January 6 footage is another price that McCarthy was forced to pay to become Speaker.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  48. I’m sure Tucker will use the highest journalistic standards and not just create propaganda to diminish the violence of that day and drive ratings. Right?

    AJ_Liberty (5f05c3) — 2/21/2023 @ 7:43 am

    Holding him to a higher standard than the Washington Post, NY Times, CNN, etc are we?

    NJRob (87f219)

  49. and all of a sudden transparency is a BIG PROBLEM.

    show them for what they’ve become.

    Colonel Haiku (192b61)

  50. https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1627766669954220032?

    So many on here sound like they’re echoing Adam Schiff. I’m shocked!

    NJRob (87f219)

  51. #49

    If they want transparency, they could put the entire footage out on a website. Or give it to multiple outlets. But it’s just going to Tucker, an opinionator with an agenda about 1-6. The suggestion I have is this is about (i) propaganda or (ii) suppression.

    I vote for suppression that comes with a patina of plausible deniability.

    Appalled (ef7386)

  52. #50

    Why’s Schiff wrong? Because he’s Adam Schiff and that’s what he does? Or do you have a substantive explanation. More specifically — what do you expect Tucker Carlson to do with those tapes?

    Appalled (ef7386)

  53. Sorry, the folks who’ve either wanted this footage to remain hidden or who didn’t find it worthy of viewing have no standing. They should return to their inebriation, their slumber or their pursuit of ambulances.

    Colonel Haiku (192b61)

  54. and all of a sudden transparency is a BIG PROBLEM.

    Is it “transparency” when a pro-Putin partisan has exclusive access?
    Wouldn’t actual transparency be the release of all that footage on the Internet?
    You and I both know that Carlson will cherry-pick the footage to suit his agenda.

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7)

  55. #53

    “Shut up, he explained”

    Appalled (ef7386)

  56. 55… I choose to characterize it as circumspection. Not your usual posture, but could be helpful.

    Colonel Haiku (286a49)

  57. I don’t think anyone here would be all that upset if Antifa members were hauled up on sedition charges in places like Portland.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  58. Appalled,

    If you were concerned about honesty or integrity please show you or Adam Schiff demanding the release of the tapes to the public, especuially during the Liz and Pelosi Star Chamber hearings.

    Thanks in advance!

    NJRob (87f219)

  59. It would be transparency if McCarthy made them available to all the media and other interested persons and organizations.

    This contrived, after the fact, BS justification for slipping them to Tuckyo Rose is trans-parentcy.

    nk (5daf94)

  60. Hey, Rob… did any of these Democrats or “partyless peepulz” ever utter a desire to see these thousands of hours of J6 evidence released to their true owner, the American taxpayer?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  61. I’ve never objected to the release of all the footage on J6, but I doubt that there is any footage that would mitigate or negate the posted visual documentary evidence in the 1,003 criminal indictments.
    I don’t see how such additional video could undo a rioter’s illegal presence in the Capitol on that day, or undo an insurrectionist clubbing a Capitol Police officer with a flagpole or hockey stick.
    But hey, go ahead and release it all, to everyone, but not exclusively to a documented liar like Carlson with an overt political agenda of minimizing the events of that day.

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7)

  62. I know the media has been ALL over Matt Taibbi’s reporting on the government’s attempts to silence any opposition to the Biden candidacy/federal government’s narrative…

    Would they really have any time to handle this info?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  63. Nah Colonel. Too busy defending Lizzie.

    NJRob (87f219)

  64. #58

    In my comments here, I have been pretty clear I thought the 1-6 hearings were a one sided grand jury presntation and media show. I, for one, would not have minded the tradiotional heating on thes matters where the Republicans had their opportunities to ask hostile questions and filibuster. Some interesting testimony came out of those hearings and I am glad there was some way of eliciting it.

    I don’t really care if all the tapes are available on some website or not. If there is a goal of transparency, though, giving sole access to Tucker Carlson is a funny way to meet the goal. I’m curious why you disagree. You haven’t really said.

    Appalled (ef7386)

  65. I don’t see how such additional video could undo a rioter’s illegal presence in the Capitol on that day, or undo an insurrectionist clubbing a Capitol Police officer with a flagpole or hockey stick.

    Ashli Babbitt remains unavailable for comment.

    DCSCA (7c12ab)

  66. @31 democrat voter triumph of good over evil as bidens and clintons are only interested in grift not evil and protecting you and themselves from AOC and the left.

    asset (56e2db)

  67. Ashli Babbitt remains unavailable for comment.

    Chances are good that, had she lived, the number indicted would be higher by one, to 1,004. But Trump lied and Babbitt died.

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7)

  68. What’s to hide; can’t picture why the Royalists would want to keep video vindication under wraps; can’t picture why the Royalists would keep JFK files under wraps– for 60 years; can’t picture why the Royalists would deny Area 51 existed until 2013 even when photos of it from space were published by a government agency in 1974; can’t picture why the Royalists kept a Chinese spy balloon program violating sovereign U.S. airspace from We The People until a citizen looked up, spotted and pictured one… etc., etc., then wonder why castles get stormed.

    DCSCA (7c12ab)

  69. Appalled,

    I’m disgusted by the Cheney worship just because she was NeverTrump. She did a huge disservice to the nation by giving the false veneer of bipartisanship to.a clearly partisan proceeding.

    Anyone who committed violence should be prosecuted. Anyone who “paraded” is a political prosecution.

    The Jan 6th farce hid any video that didn’r push their propaganda. So turnabout is fair play.

    NJRob (1005fb)

  70. FBI Associate Director Mark Felt gave the property of the DOJ to Bob Woodard. Bob Woodard’s fame and fortune today are directly related to that one source and the gift of government material. Woodard even made money off of a book “The Secret Man” about the source W. Mark Felt. I’ll take the flag for a 15 yard whataboutism penalty. I’ll tack on another for US contract employee Ellsberg giving The Pentagon Papers to Sheehan.

    These episodes made the careers of these two. I think McCarthy made a smart move. If McCarthy gave a viewing of the tapes to some new person at the WP, no telling where it would have gone. Carlson hasn’t aired an episode on the material yet and people in political circles are sackcloth, ashes, gnashing of teeth batshyte crazy over it while the Fox News crowd is salivating (some might say drooling but that would be elitist).
    McCarthy obviously wanted to get a huge audience, Carlson averaged 3,300,000 viewers in 2022, 520K of them in the age 24-55 bracket. Furthermore, every Fox News Cable host (or the 5 hosts) will rehash Carlsons previous day Jan6 content all day and night to at least 5M unique viewers

    steveg (003a5a)

  71. 63… didn’t think so. I would’ve been pleasantly surprised if some of them had, but that wasn’t my expectation.

    Colonel Haiku (7174ef)

  72. Releasing the video footage will be boon to the next group that wants to “storm the castle” by revealing the angles that are not covered by the cameras.

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  73. @72. Maybe seeing what they look like on video will inform better choices next time for their mental patient outfits and accoutrements. Shave and oil those pecs. Pick a viking helmet that really pops.

    lurker (cd7cd4)

  74. 72… lol.

    Colonel Haiku (7174ef)

  75. @70 Don’t forget Tuckyo’s Russian audience, steveg. Or will Putin allow it at all, do you think? On the one hand, it is embarrassing to America. On the other hand, it might remind the Russians how they brought down the previous dynasty.

    nk (5daf94)

  76. @70. Don’t forget the books- hardcover and paperback- published by the NYT, WaPO and so on back in the of “The White House Transcripts” w/t text of the Nixon tapes– which made the terms ‘expletive deleted’ a household phrase. 😉

    DCSCA (3f45e9)

  77. ^back in the day

    DCSCA (3f45e9)

  78. Why play the leftist game of predicting someone’s actions as if it’s a virtuous prediction. And, in balance, anything Tucker features will provide a more complete narrative of the leftist already released narrative. That IS a good thing.

    Richard Wetmore (ddc02c)

  79. I’m sure that out of 1003 indictments Carlson will be able to come up with a few stinkers and would guess McCarthy and the Republicans who reviewed them gave Carlson an index. T

    steveg (512ace)

  80. The thing is that whatever Tucker does, he will be preaching to the choir. The dyed-in-the wool Trumpies. That’s his audience.

    And that will be good enough for him to keep his job, and for Kevin McCarthy to keep his job, and for Ronna McDaniel to keep her job, for the next two years.

    But it will not be good enough for any sane person to want to give control of our armed forces and security agencies to a Republican. Not now, not in 2024, and likely not for the next twenty years.

    nk (f18bdd)

  81. Does anybody expect Tucker to be objective in the way he releases and discusses the videos?

    I don’t. Doing so might hurt Fox’s stock price.

    norcal (7345e5)

  82. https://www.wsj.com/articles/ron-wydens-nullification-doctrine-abortion-mifepristone-kacsmaryk-lincoln-dred-scott-progressives-d8876343

    Nk, this is the type of person you’d prefer to cede power to, right?

    He demands to spit upon the Constitution in the ways you’d prefer? I’m sure asset prefers this type of destructive act.

    NJRob (ca87bd)

  83. Norcal,

    Has the existing releasrs and discussions been objective? Or have they just been fodder for leftist “muh insurrection” ckaims?

    NJRob (ca87bd)

  84. Robs correct. We shouldn’t call it an insurrection. Only a few ppl have been convicted of sedition and seditious conspiracy.

    We should describe it factually as the the day hundreds of conservatives violently assaulted the police and seized the us capital to prevent the peaceful transfer of power after their preferred candidate lost the election.

    Time123 (66087a)

  85. @81, Since it’s well documented that Tucker has knowingly mislead his audience I doubt they care if he does so again. The ones with a tiny bit of shame will just make excuses and say whatabout.

    Time123 (66087a)

  86. If I understand NJRob correctly, he’s not looking for objectivity from Tucker. He’s looking for Tucker’s populist conservative orientation on the material to balance out what we saw from the 1-6 Committee.

    Is that fair, NJR?

    Appalled (c44907)

  87. Is that fair, NJR?
    Appalled (c44907) — 2/22/2023 @ 5:57 am

    sounds like NJRob simply asked a question that nobody wants to answer

    JF (132da1)

  88. NJRob @82, it is the black-robed megalomaniac on the bench who is abusing his power and spitting on the Constitution. The FDA rules on the efficacy and safety of drugs nationwide, and not one federal judge in one district.

    And FWIW, I felt the same way when another of his ilk struck down Trump’s suspension of DACA, and (though not as strongly) the so-called Muslim ban.

    nk (bd7a2f)

  89. anything Tucker features will provide a more complete narrative of the leftist already released narrative.

    LOL!

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  90. I asked if anyone had a problem with the one sided nature we’ve been provided? I didn’t see concern over it then. So why the clutching at pearls now?

    NJRob (f009a2)

  91. I almost forgot about Tucker’s whitewash of January 6th on FoxNation. He had to have it on their subscription channel because even FoxNews wouldn’t air his lies.
    This is the guy that McCarthy entrusted this footage.

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7)

  92. #91

    Schumer has the same power to release tapes as McCarthy. It’s easy to fix any one-sided release from Tucker and document his selective edits.

    Appalled (03f53c)

  93. The fun starts when the Democrat leaderships’ communications before/during/after J6 are reviewed.

    Colonel Haiku (13387c)

  94. #93

    See my #92, which McCarthy knows. Also remember that the GOP establishment in Washington mostly deals with 1-6 by ignoring it and hoping everyone will get bored.

    My guess is McCarthy is gambling on 1-6 being a ratings loser and not helping Fox’s stock price much. As long as the competition doesn’t have the tapes, let’s see how much of this cache sees the light of day.

    Appalled (03f53c)

  95. Litigation to prevent the airing in the works?

    Future unarmed insurrectionistas may see some clues about the layout that could conceivably be used to their advantage in future unarmed insurrections!

    Colonel Haiku (b51442)

  96. There are numerous photos showing people assaulting the police with weapons and others showing ppl with guns. Multiple convictions for weapons related charges, which is impressive since they made no arrests on Jan 6.

    But Trump supporters didn’t have to use guns to seize the US capital…thankfully.

    Time123 (3007a0)

  97. To be fair, we argue about how Fox is spreading lies to make money, but there is nothing forcing Comcast, DirecTV or any or the streamers to carry the Fox News Channel. They do it because their customers want them to, and if they dropped the channel they’d lose customers and money.

    In the end the entire food chain is making money off of this.

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  98. J6 seems made for the Fox audience. Like I said before, out of 1003 and people indicted, there are bound to be a few. There may be a prosecutor who on his/her own time is quite partisan. I’ve come to think maybe this is somewhat pre-emptive because Trump is in the race and this was all possible to be leaked to Trump HQ sooner or later. Best thing for GOP is to let any Trump wave wash out early

    steveg (808005)

  99. That’s a fair point about Schumer, Appalled. I actually hope he releases the footage, but to a much larger audience.

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7)

  100. Appalled (03f53c) — 2/23/2023 @ 8:03 am

    Schumer has the same power to release tapes as McCarthy. It’s easy to fix any one-sided release from Tucker and document his selective edits

    The Democrats don’t want to release all the tapes because that would reveal the secret evacuation locations in the Capitol and they don’t want to give the next bunch of marauders a heads up as to where to go to looking for members of Congress to kill or capture, and so the Jan 6 committee carefully consulted with Capitol police before making anything public.

    The New York Times says that people who have looked at the tapes say that the majority of the hours of video show either nothing or people milling around peacefully (paraphrase)

    Sammy Finkelman (f0d9a1)

  101. Very interesting thread. I wonder why they chose to hide all of this!?!?

    https://twitter.com/InvestigateJ6/status/1627767555745107984

    Colonel Haiku (133e76)

  102. Always trust the NYT, Sammy!

    Colonel Haiku (133e76)

  103. @99 yes well if you can’t trust Tucker you can trust Schumer LOL

    JF (c8f8d9)

  104. JF:

    No, you trust one to keep the other at least somewhat honest.

    Appalled (356208)

  105. mr. president vladimir putin trusts mr. tucker and that’s good enough for me

    nk (e70658)

  106. Appalled (356208) — 2/23/2023 @ 12:18 pm

    judging from the comments it’s only in one direction

    but, yes see @32

    JF (c8f8d9)

  107. @105 your problem with tucker is that, unlike Schumer, he’s not chasing down nude pics of trump

    JF (c8f8d9)

  108. @97. ‘To be fair, we argue about how Fox is spreading lies to make money, but there is nothing forcing Comcast, DirecTV or any or the streamers to carry the Fox News Channel. They do it because their customers want them to, and if they dropped the channel they’d lose customers and money. In the end the entire food chain is making money off of this.

    …especially if nighttime Fox opinion viewers are watching while eating one of Swanson heir Tucka’s TeeVee Dinners. 😉

    DCSCA (0e5da0)

  109. 102. Colonel Haiku (133e76) — 2/23/2023 @ 10:38 am

    Always trust the NYT, Sammy!

    You sometimes can, especially when they report direct knowledge.

    Besides, that should satisfy you, because they are agreeing with the extreme MAGA Republicans.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/us/politics/mccarthy-tucker-carlson-jan-6-video.html

    News organizations, including The New York Times, have repeatedly sought in court to make video from Jan. 6 public.

    Spokesmen for Mr. McCarthy did not respond to a request for comment.

    People familiar with the video say large portions of it are uneventful, depicting empty hallways or protesters behaving peacefully. There is also much footage, from various sources, of intense violence that day, when more than 150 police officers suffered injuries fighting off the mob.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  110. More from the NYT story:

    Representative Zoe Lofgren, Democrat of California and a member of the now-disbanded House Jan. 6 committee, said the panel had access to the tens of thousands of hours of footage. Committee members could view the video at a machine protected by a password.

    Before the panel released any evidence publicly at a hearing, members consulted with the general counsel of the Capitol Police to make sure they would not harm Capitol security, Ms. Lofgren said.

    “We were very careful with it,” she said, adding: “We were particularly focused on not showing sensitive areas involving the evacuation of the members of Congress in various places. That type of release could really provide a blueprint for bad guys on how to more successfully attack the Capitol.”

    Those sentiments were echoed by Representative Bennie Thompson, Democrat of Mississippi, who was chairman of the House Jan. 6 committee. He said his panel limited access to the footage to “a small handful of investigators and senior staff, and the public use of any footage was coordinated in advance with Capitol Police.”

    “It’s hard to overstate the potential security risks if this material were to be used irresponsibly,” he said.

    So, as I said:

    The Democrats don’t want to release all the tapes because that would reveal the secret evacuation locations in the Capitol and they don’t want to give the next bunch of marauders a heads up as to where to go to looking for members of Congress to kill or capture, and so the Jan 6 committee carefully consulted with Capitol police before making anything public.

    Now there are reasons to argue with that.

    1) There probably won’t be another assault like that of January 6, 2021 (by the way, if there is, it is likely to be coming from a different political direction.)

    2) The secret hiding places are not likely to be disseminated by turning them over to major media organizations – and even Fox News

    3) The hiding paces will be guarded, so this won’t be of much value to an attacker.

    4) They may change.

    5) The secret hiding places are probably already known to many people, so in the event of a well planned attack, it may be known anyway. And a non-well-planned attack won’t get there.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  111. “Besides, that should satisfy you, because they are agreeing with the extreme MAGA Republicans.”

    I’m not among that cohort, Sammy. I’m just tired of the lies, the anti-Americanism, the promotion of racial divisiveness, animosity and all the horseschiff of the last 7.5 years. ANY opinion of/reporting by the NYT is suspect, IMO. And the Biden Administration is doing it’s best to tear this country apart.

    Colonel Haiku (11521e)

  112. Grifters both, Lofgren and Thompson.

    Colonel Haiku (11521e)

  113. There is a part of me that wants Representatives to be a little more aware that they are not as special as they think they are, but there were parts of Jan6 that brought out the overachievers in the protestors and the drama queens in Congress. Rand Paul’s attacker said: Hold my beer”

    steveg (f2e96a)

  114. JF

    I leave that sort of thing to Stormy Daniels.

    Appalled (62e931)

  115. “Besides, that should satisfy you, because they are agreeing with the extreme MAGA Republicans.”

    111. Colonel Haiku (11521e) — 2/23/2023 @ 2:10 pm

    I’m not among that cohort, Sammy.

    I didn’t think you were, but I thought you would accept that they weren’t wrong on that point because it is the opposite of what you would expect their bias to be.

    I’m just tired of the lies, the anti-Americanism, the promotion of racial divisiveness, animosity and all the horseschiff of the last 7.5 years. ANY opinion of/reporting by the NYT is suspect, IMO.

    I distinguish. Most of the problem is with opinion, although they also sanitize the news. The worst thing is some of the opinion articles (also the type of news that tends to lean toward opinion) and their letters to the editor. They seem almost unaware iof other points of view. Today we had letters arguing with a Bret Stephens column (Stephens is ex-Wall Street Journal – I think there are certain things he ahs to keep to himself, but there are other things he does not) the day before that

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/opinion/do-mask-mandates-work.html

    The mainstream experts and pundits who supported mandates were wrong. In a better world, it would behoove the latter group to acknowledge their error.

    The letter writers were having none of that. The studies weren’t definitive. The CDC and other medical professionals were not acting out of incompetence but doin their best, while their opponents were relying on a misguided interpretation of American individualism and not science. And anyway (as Bret Stephens actually said) there is a difference between mask wearing and mask mandates. (these letters are now printed on the far right portion of the inside back page)

    I had some thoughts on all that. The masks might cut down exposure, but the virus could travel much further than what they said, but on the other hand they were counting all cases as identical, disregarding any possibility of degree and amount of exposure to the virus.

    Colonel Haiku:

    And the Biden Administration is doing it’s best to tear this country apart.

    I don’t think so.

    They’re doing their best to accommodate all criticism, especially coming from Democrats, but also some coming from Republicans, and they like to give false talking points in their favor. Sometimes that can be divisive.

    The best thing, of course, would be to elucidate the truth.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  116. The New York Times feels compelled to say that somethin Donald Trump says is false when they think it is false, lest somebody make a mistake.

    Now they’ve extended that to Putin.

    Sammy Finkelman (1d215a)

  117. Sammy,

    the NY Times is Maoist propaganda that was fully taken over after their struggle sessions when they dared to allow Tom Cotton 5 seconds in their leftist rag.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  118. The secret hiding places are probably already known to many people,

    They’ll change them to the double-secret hiding places. And what happened to the Cold War train to Mount Weather?

    Kevin M (1ea396)

  119. @117 if nyt is maoist how come they refused to cover AOC’s primary challenge to crowley in june 2018 and the AP refused to give out her name when she won! To be taken seriously you need to make serious comments. NYT is corporate establishment DNC propaganda not Maoist.

    asset (68cf32)

  120. @119. As usual, you and Rob are both in Humpty-Dumpty-land. “Corporate establishment” and “Maoist” have been turned into empty epithets by the far left and right, respectively. Here on planet Earth, the Times has a left of center bias. But Maoist? Lol. Not if words have meaning. “Corporate establishment” is equally divorced from reality. To the far left (e.g., Greenwald, Taibbi, Dore, Maté) AOC is corporate establishment. If AOC is corporate establishment, everyone is corporate establishment. If everyone is corporate establishment, no one is.

    lurker (cd7cd4)

  121. Lurker,

    I’ll go back to ignoring your usual name calling. The Maoist remark is a direct quote from one of their victims who experienced it firsthand. Try and google it. It’s homework for you.

    NJRob (22a439)

  122. “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.”

    nk (bb1548)

  123. Well, if a person says it’s Maoist (“a follower of the communist doctrines of Mao Zedong”), then it must be so, because words mean whatever you want them to.

    Paul Montagu (8f0dc7)

  124. NJ Rob:

    The Maoist remark comes from here:

    https://www.mediaite.com/print/i-was-so-fcking-freaked-out-ex-nyt-staffer-describes-crying-and-bloodthirsty-colleagues-seeking-vengeance-for-cotton-op-ed/

    Specifically:

    The riots, which accompanied peaceful protests of the police murder of George Floyd, an African-American Minnesota man, were enough to spark company and opinion staff meetings about Cotton’s submission.

    At the latter, McCreesh said that Charlie Warzel, a White tech writer, started to cry because “none of his friends wanted to talk to him anymore because he worked for this horrible evil newspaper that would print this op-ed.”

    “It was just so bizarre what was happening,” said McCreesh. “It was like a Maoist struggle session.”

    McCreesh told Krakauer that leadership at the Times “completely lost their nerve” in the face of “angry backbiting staffers” including some Bennet had brought to the Times. McCreesh said he was “so fucking freaked out” by the mob and remarked that the scene “was like a murder.”

    It would be just as accurate, based on a reading of this, to say the New York Times was run by a bunch of murderers.

    Appalled (4d131b)

  125. NJ Rob:

    The Maoist remark comes from here:

    https://www.mediaite.com/print/i-was-so-fcking-freaked-out-ex-nyt-staffer-describes-crying-and-bloodthirsty-colleagues-seeking-vengeance-for-cotton-op-ed/

    Specifically:

    The riots, which accompanied peaceful protests of the police murder of George Floyd, an African-American Minnesota man, were enough to spark company and opinion staff meetings about Cotton’s submission.

    At the latter, McCreesh said that Charlie Warzel, a White tech writer, started to cry because “none of his friends wanted to talk to him anymore because he worked for this horrible evil newspaper that would print this op-ed.”

    “It was just so bizarre what was happening,” said McCreesh. “It was like a Maoist struggle session.”

    McCreesh told Krakauer that leadership at the Times “completely lost their nerve” in the face of “angry backbiting staffers” including some Bennet had brought to the Times. McCreesh said he was “so freaked out” by the mob and remarked that the scene “was like a murder.”

    It would be just as accurate, based on a reading of this, to say the New York Times was run by a bunch of murderers.

    Appalled (4d131b)

  126. Rip Murdock @46”All you need for seditious conspiracy is to attempt:

    by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof,

    not any of these other things at the start of that paragraph.

    Sammy Finkelman (77724b)

  127. The lengths to which some people will go to distract from the essence…

    The Word Mincers

    Colonel Haiku (86d594)

  128. What someone thought resembled Maoism was that they wanted confessions of wrongthink about police and blacks or protests.

    It was the Mao regime that it could be said took 1984 as an instruction manual (the two minutes hate) except that they started circa 1944 in the parts of China they controlled ( before George Orwell wrote his book. )

    But they didn’t have television or telling people not to trust their memory. But then, you’d expect some differences since Red China was the government of Eastasia, not that of Oceania.

    George Orwell imagined a terrible dictatorship. It was based somewhat oon the Communist Party. ‘

    When the Chinese Communists were taking over China in 1948-9 they had two different types of regimes: A milder regime in places they had recently taken over, and a worse one in places they controlled for some time)

    Sammy Finkelman (77724b)

  129. These meetings at the New York Times where they wanted confessions of wrongthink about race or whatever weren’t being organized from the top down,anagement thought they would bring labor peace.

    Sammy Finkelman (77724b)

  130. Ironic for someone who does it so much that Rob still doesn’t seem to know what name-calling is.

    lurker (cd7cd4)

  131. Will Tucker Carlson use these tapes to be as big a Schiff Stirrer as was Adam Schiff? One might hope so.

    Comanche Voter (a15ae2)


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