Report: Trump “Pissed” That Kelly Tried To Control His Twitter Account
But while the president has offered Kelly a level of control Priebus never managed to obtain, Trump has resisted giving his new chief of staff veto power over the spontaneous and provocative tweets that often serve as a distraction for his administration.
A series of news reports suggesting Kelly had sought oversight of Trump’s Twitter account, including a report that claimed Kelly wanted to know in advance what the president planned to post, made their way to Trump’s desk last week, a person familiar with the situation told the Washington Examiner.
Trump “was pissed when he read Kelly wanted to control his Twitter feed,” the person said.
Stories about palace intrigue based on anonymous sources are suspect right out of the gate. But they do provide data points with which to analyze the nature of the warring factions. This story takes care to note that Kelly was authorized to fire anyone except “Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Kellyanne Conway, and chief strategist Steve Bannon.” It’s not unreasonable to assume that the source is connected to one of those three camps, and using this leak to push back at Kelly’s restriction of their access to Trump.
In any event, if Kelly isn’t trying to control Trump’s Twitter usage, I’d be surprised — just as I’d be surprised if Trump didn’t resist such a move. As I have noted previously, it’s not a good look to be endlessly tweeting like a jackass about issues of personal pique, while the American people continue to suffer from your stalled legislative agenda. But Trump doesn’t seem to care about any of that.
In the end, the notion that Kelly is going to bring discipline to Trump is fanciful. We all knew it, but I guess it makes for a cute little side drama.
Ah, well. Maybe Kelly can at least help stop Trump from talking us into nuclear war. If he can perform even that one small service, maybe the change will have been worth it.
[Cross-posted at RedState and The Jury Talks Back.]
Don’t see this as a big deal if true. Twitter is a pure waste if time and a narcissist’s dream.
NJRob (bcf15e) — 8/9/2017 @ 10:46 amWhat next? Someone reporting that Trump did not care for how the White House chef made his eggs this morning?
SPQR (240837) — 8/9/2017 @ 11:18 amKelly is WH Chief-of-Staff, he’s there to serve the President, not to control him or to limit his ability to communicate. If Kelly can’t do his job without infringing on the President’s exclusive prerogatives, then he’s overstepping his bounds and needs to read his job description again.
ropelight (072508) — 8/9/2017 @ 11:28 amThe daily caller piece about who had been leaking is more interesting.
Ot I was surprised to see that new Stephenson tome was not in the stores yet.
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 11:30 amCue ominous piano music:
http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/09/exclusive-poisonous-atmosphere-grips-mcmasters-national-security-council-as-accusations-fly/?utm_source=site-share
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 11:32 amI hope Kelly will stop NK from taking us into nuclear war.
Q! bert (fc6e7d) — 8/9/2017 @ 11:34 am#6, Goofy Q, you’ve got your account in the wrong bank if you think Kelly can stop the fat Korean t*rd from committing a Jim Jones style atrocity on a national scale.
If the porcine Nork dictator is determined to commit national suicide by Uncle Sam there’s little Kelly can do about it.
Salvation for the North Korean people is in the hands of China and Nork military leadership. Unless responsible adults take control and defuse the conflict, it’s a crap shoot the rogue nation survives to see the new year.
ropelight (072508) — 8/9/2017 @ 12:01 pm#7, please read the last paragraph of Patterico’s post and see if you meant to say “sarcastic Q” instead of goofy.
Q! bert (fc6e7d) — 8/9/2017 @ 12:05 pmSix days ago, the New York Times had: (online Aug 3 – page 1 August 4, 2017 paper)
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/03/us/politics/john-kelly-chief-of-staff-trump.html
Now, right after that, at 8:15 pm August 4, 2017 we have this Washington Examiner article, which says that while Kelly cannot control what the president posts, he would like him to avoid announcing big policy decisions on Twitter.
This would seem to have been provoked by the transgender ban in the military, which so far, is not official. The cause could also include what haoeopned with his own appointment, which was announced on Twitter.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 8/9/2017 @ 12:28 pm@ropelight, #3:
You speak as if the one excludes the other.
I don’t know whether there’s anything to this story. I don’t care whether there is or not. But if there is, then in all probability nothing will happen right away — or in the near future, for that matter. Trump cannot possibly afford to fire John Kelly right after losing Spicer and Priebus and Scaramucci…and right after publicly praising Kelly for having done a bang-up job during his six months at Homeland Security. He needs Kelly more than Kelly needs him, if only to give the public a sense that the White House has finally stabilized a bit after a period of turmoil. The most he’ll do is stew over it.
I also assume that Kelly, having been a smart enough politician and a capable enough officer to get his fourth star, understands that this sort of protection only lasts so long, and won’t make a habit of doing things that will piss off a boss who has the ability to dismiss him at will.
Demosthenes (09f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 12:42 pmhttps://www.buzzfeed.com/johnhudson/trump-hasnt-appointed-an-ambassador-to-korea-and-now-its-a?utm_term=.ctpkka8PE#.gpA33gayv
Not that any of this matters. The pot stirrers have the Con, and Chuckles has his stage antics. It’s all good in the conservative ‘hood.
Ben burn (02b525) — 8/9/2017 @ 1:10 pmho hum:
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 1:23 pmhttps://mobile.twitter.com/OlivierGuitta/status/895355139846004737?p=v
Who’s Next? – Tom Lehrer (w/a hiccup)
First we got the bomb and that was good
Cause we love peace and motherhood
Then Russia got the bomb, but that’s O.K
Cause the balance of power’s maintained that way!
Who’s next?
France got the bomb, but don’t you grieve
‘Cause they’re on our side, I believe
China got the bomb, but have no fears
They can’t wipe us out for at least five years!
Who’s next?
Then Indonesia claimed that they
Were gonna get one any day
South Africa wants two, that’s right:
One for the black and one for the white!
Who’s next?
Egypt’s gonna get one, too
Just to use on you know who
So Israel’s getting tense
Wants one in self defense
“The Lord’s our shepherd”, says the Psalm
But just in case, we better get a bomb!
Who’s next?
Luxembourg is next to go
And, who knows, maybe Monaco
We’ll try to stay serene and calm
When North Korea gets the bomb!
Who’s next, who’s next, who’s next?
Who’s next?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdtAFIl2jhc
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/9/2017 @ 1:24 pm“cute little side drama.”
What’s the bottom line?
I note the Pentagon told Eric in no uncertain terms he can’t have Afghanistan, Bannon or no Bannon.
The blowback from his tweets seem to last a few minutes, but old soldiers don’t forget. His bridge- burning will be his undoing. So many,many enemies too great to count.
Ben burn (02b525) — 8/9/2017 @ 1:26 pmRe the Norwegian blue thread, as flake is only one up this year:
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/09/trump-jeff-flake-robert-mercer-kelli-ward-241454
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 1:28 pmThis story is a little like the kinsman fake covers, that hid their success full oprration
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 1:30 pmI think Tim Lehrer forgot Britain, which was third, and his projections from when he wrote that (circa 1965?) are alll wrong.
Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 8/9/2017 @ 1:34 pmTrump made his bones tweeting directly to the voters and circumventing the national propaganda agencies. He ain’t about to put his administration’s future in the corrupt hands of hate mongers and socialist pukes.
Letting Trump be Trump means backing him up, not trying to shut him down. Our Republic dies when our President can be silenced by fools.
ropelight (072508) — 8/9/2017 @ 2:00 pm“President Trump was informed of the growing threat last December and on taking office his first orders to me emphasized the readiness of our ballistic missile defense and nuclear deterrent forces.”
~ U.S. Secretary of Defense, General James Mattis
https://twitter.com/amanda_m_macias/status/895325176501460993
“…his first orders…”
More evidence for you to toss in your word salad maker, Q!.
Tough day for you.
Q! bert (fc6e7d) — 8/9/2017 @ 2:01 pmI have made a mistake and I did not intend to post to Q! here. I will post on the correct string. Much apologies.
Q! bert (fc6e7d) — 8/9/2017 @ 2:04 pmTrump is used to bean- counters with a overbite who not only don’t bark but have no bite. I can see Kelly as a DI….
“”Who the f*ck said that? Who’s the slimy little communist sh*t twinkle toes co*k sucker who just signed his own death warrant?”
Ben burn (02b525) — 8/9/2017 @ 2:37 pm“…his first orders…”
German chocolate cake with two scoops of vanilla.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/9/2017 @ 4:15 pmPatterico,
Trump is not “taking us into nuclear war.” If we get there it will be the fault (in increasing order) of Bill Clinton, W, and Barack Obama. They each, in turn, decided that proliferation of nuclear weapons, and particularly proliferation into the hands of people who make Trump seem sane, was better than taking a risk. And the risk grew. Now, it intolerable, there is no more road to kick the can down, and there are only two options:
1. Allow the Kims to have nuclear weapons and ICBMs and use them to blackmail the world.
2. Go to war.
Option number 3, that you can achieve an agreement with an actor who has repeatedly breach every agreement you’ve made, including his original promise never to seek nuclear weapons, isn’t real. It’s for people who want to fool themselves yet again that “this time will be different.”
And if the Kims are allowed to keep these weapons, and secure their slave state, it signals to all that the way to security is nuclear weapons. And that path eventually leads to the Last War. Just not today.
If, on the other hand, the Kims are stopped, the price will be paid once and the signal instead is that seeking nuclear weapons is a foolish move. That path eventually leads to nuclear disarmament.
I know which world I want to see, even if getting there is painful.
Kevin M (752a26) — 8/9/2017 @ 4:27 pmYou were saying something about not worrying about lawfare
http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/08/06/leaks-white-house-trump-sessions-pattern-interrogation-expert-james-mitchell
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 4:34 pmFrom the start of John Varley’s “Demon” (a book mostly about something else)
I really don’t think a world with 50 nuclear powers is a stable one.
Kevin M (752a26) — 8/9/2017 @ 4:36 pmLol..I don’t intend to pay Fox..
Ben burn (02b525) — 8/9/2017 @ 4:40 pmCould someone pull my last out of moderation, please. It has quotes that have bad words.
Kevin M (752a26) — 8/9/2017 @ 4:41 pmBy the way it REALLY won’t be Trump that takes us to war. It will be Congress. We should be demanding that Trump seek an AUMF prior to final negotiations, and certainly if Kim tests another bomb, or flies a missile someone sensitive, Trump needs to get a declaration of war before proceeding.
The only way we get into war without Congress is if Kim attacks us or an ally. At which point Congress’ vote is a formality.
Kevin M (752a26) — 8/9/2017 @ 4:46 pmShow of hands. Who thinks that Scaramucci was an “out of town talent” brought in solely to drive out Priebus and Spicer and got paid with deferment of the tax from the sale of his company which was in the works half a year before his appointment?
nk (dbc370) — 8/9/2017 @ 4:50 pmHe had decided to become vp of export import bank, but no good deed goes unpunished, you save thousands of people from death like 9/11 the levick crew will get yoi
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 4:57 pm@26. K, you know, Bob Hope and WC Fields excelled at using “bad words” w/o actually using them. It can make for some creative –and fun writing.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/9/2017 @ 4:58 pmObama can nominate chases head of subprime division for treasury with nary a word
https://www.onenewsnow.com/perspectives/michelle-malkin/2017/08/09/senate-finally-curious-about-dems-it-suspects
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 5:06 pmHow Is the Week Without Happyfeet going?
Patterico (d64fac) — 8/9/2017 @ 5:24 pm@32. A good stew can always use seasoning.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/9/2017 @ 5:27 pmA person like miss madasch fro the earlier link?
https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2017/08/09/cam-ramming-attack-on-french-soldiers-outside-paris-manhunt-underway-as-terror-police-investigate/
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 5:29 pmApparently he (happyfeet) is content with it and is looking forward to coming back, so whatever.
nk (dbc370) — 8/9/2017 @ 5:29 pm@ ropelight, #18:
For that statement to make sense in this context, John Kelly would have to be a fool. Is that what you’re implying?
Demosthenes (8d6d83) — 8/9/2017 @ 5:40 pmThe watercooler gossip has gotten obscene in lieu of recent events
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 5:49 pmAnalyses like this from the WaPo — North Korea just called Trump’s bluff. So what happens now? — frighten me because I fear they will falsely lead foreign leaders to overestimate the ability of anyone, from the Joint Chiefs to Congress to Gen. Kelly, to restrain Trump if he goes completely off the rails.
I don’t worry that he’ll wake up one morning, read a tweet that angers him (e.g., some Democratic senator mocking him), and then turn to his aides with instructions to immediately launch a preemptive nuclear strike on North Korea.
But I do worry that he’ll take lesser steps that nevertheless start a cascade of events which leave no one — from the Joint Chiefs to Congress to Gen. Kelly to Trump — with any other options than outright military conflict. (We’re still “at war” with the Norks to the full extent we were ever “at war” with the Norks, meaning our “police action” is only subject to an armistice.)
Beldar (fa637a) — 8/9/2017 @ 6:05 pmI’m worried we will wake up one say and nuclear weapons have been unleashed on a.ajor city in Asia,
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 6:10 pmHow Is the Week Without Happyfeet going?
About a third the comment volume.
Kevin M (752a26) — 8/9/2017 @ 6:21 pmOK, I’m gonna take it OUT of moderation myself.
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From the start of John Varley’s “Demon” (a book mostly about something else)
I really don’t think a world with 50 nuclear powers is a stable one.
Kevin M (752a26) — 8/9/2017 @ 6:25 pmI miss the Col. as well as happyfeet.
mg (31009b) — 8/9/2017 @ 6:30 pmThis would.£ be if some on ignored a similar in Mclean?
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 6:34 pmhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4773988/Six-soldiers-wounded-Paris.html?ito=social-
twitter_mailonline#ixzz4pHJNfDuG
23 – Kevin M, EXCELLENT comment.
It’s going to be even more insane when Iran catches up to N Korea.
On the other hand, some people prefer the Brian Williams approach:
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/brian-williams-says-that-its-our-job-to-scare-people-to-death-over-north-korea/amp/
harkin (aca8cf) — 8/9/2017 @ 6:49 pmThat was like 1984 blended with Brazil Smith a dose of Phillip jozr farmer!
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 6:49 pm#37, Demo, no.
ropelight (072508) — 8/9/2017 @ 6:52 pmMore Fake News, via Instapundit:
WaPo’s Erik Wemple: New York Times guilty of large screw-up on climate-change story.
“”Correction: August 9, 2017
An article on Tuesday about a sweeping federal climate change report referred incorrectly to the availability of the report. While it was not widely publicized, the report was uploaded by the nonprofit Internet Archive in January; it was not first made public by The New York Times.”
That correction, which sits at the foot of the story, dutifully straightens out the record. Yet given the magnitude of the screw-up, it should sit atop the story, surrounded by red flashing lights and perhaps an audio track to instruct readers: Warning: This story once peddled a faulty and damaging premise.
That premise suggests that the Trump administration is stifling a damaging draft report — part of the congressionally mandated National Climate Assessment — with dire warnings about climate change. . . .
…….As part of its corrective effort, the New York Times has pulled the language saying that “a copy of it was obtained by the New York Times,” as well as the mistaken assertion that it has “not yet been made public.” Even so, the article continues to carry this line: “Another scientist involved in the process, who spoke to The New York Times on the condition of anonymity, said he and others were concerned that it would be suppressed.” As well as this one: “Scientists say they fear that the Trump administration could change or suppress the report.”
Though it may be the case that certain scientists maintain such fears, that’s a pretty tough position in light of the fact that the report “was uploaded by the nonprofit Internet Archive in January” and publicized by the New York Times in August.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/blogs/erik-wemple/wp/2017/08/09/new-york-times-guilty-of-large-screw-up-on-climate-change-story/
harkin (aca8cf) — 8/9/2017 @ 7:06 pmNow if the report was released in January its a far bet it was conmissionex by the skydragon worship cult
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 7:21 pmIf it was leaked in January, my guess is it was Jan 19th.
Kevin M (752a26) — 8/9/2017 @ 8:40 pmJust like the ghcq leak that promptex hannigans resignation.
narciso (d1f714) — 8/9/2017 @ 8:47 pmt’s not a good look to be endlessly tweeting like a jackass about issues of personal pique, while the American people continue to suffer from your stalled legislative agenda
Reasonable people would think about whether one was connected to the other. Some would say it’s unbecoming. But others would say it’s the only way he can communicate with the public, considering Journolist and its imitators. Others would say it’s an odd way to pass the time when nobody else is answering the phones because it’s ‘way after work hours. But since there’s nobody to talk to at that hour, you’re not slacking on political work.
Richard Aubrey (0d7df4) — 8/10/2017 @ 6:03 amIt does remind us that Congress has to be bribed to do its work. See Cornusker Kickback and the Louisiana Purchase and a thousand little gimmees. And maybe a job requirement that POTUS be a slick and effective briber on one hand, or a blackmailer like LBJ (“don’t trust a man ’til I have his pecker in my pocket”) isn’t the sort of thing we’d like to see in the formal job description. But objecting to Trump’s stalled agenda–compared to others, or is that Not a Good Thing to do?–does lead to that conclusion. Anybody want to go there?
“Not a Good Thing to do?–does lead to that conclusion. Anybody want to go there?”
I really don’t want Trump trying to bribe or blackmail anyone. The best argument has always been truth but it’s been so long since anyone wielded it with effectiveness that it’s almost an alien form to the pols and it’s downright blasphemy to the media.
I’m still completely unconvinced on Trump’s maturity/competence to grow into the office. He certainly hasnt shown any gain of gravitas since being sworn in.
On the other hand, he’s still the one guy who was able to convince enough voters to keep a completely corrupt, dishonest and power-mad destructo-bot from gaining the power to use those same methods you mentioned to destroy the enemies of Deep-State/DNC/Rino Incorporated while increasing its power.
Right now we have a media/political complex trying to scare everyone that we’re headed to nuclear war with a madman while at the same time openly longing for a return to the days of the maturity and intelligence of the idiots who armed him in the first place.
You can’t fight that with anything but truth.
harkin (8834d2) — 8/10/2017 @ 10:12 amEveryone is focused on nookular..
Wikipedia
Ben burn (9f4670) — 8/10/2017 @ 10:17 amin 1987 that the North “possessed up to 250 metric tons of chemical weapons” including mustard (a blister agent) and some nerve agents.[134] In 2009 the International Crisis Group reported that the consensus expert view was that North Korea had a stockpile of about 2,500 to 5,000 metric tons of chemical weapons, including mustard gas, sarin (GB) and other nerve agents.[135] The South Korean Ministry of National Defense had the same estimate in 2010.[134][136] In 2014, the South Korean Defense Ministry estimated that “the North had stockpiled 2,500 to 5,000 tons of chemical weapons and had a capacity to produce a variety of biological weapons.”[137] In 2015, the U.S. Department of Defense reported to Congress that North Korea’s CW program “likely possesses a CW stockpile” and likely had “the capability to produce nerve, blister, blood, and choking agents.”[14] The report also found that “North Korea probably could employ CW agents by modifying a variety of conventional munitions, including artillery and ballistic missiles. In addition, North Korean forces are prepared to operate in a contaminated environment; they train regularly in chemical defense operations.”[14] The report indicated that North Korea “continues to develop its biological research and development capabilities” and “may consider the use of biological weapons as an option, contrary to its obligations under the Biological and Toxins Weapons Convention.”[14]
Plenty of howitzers on the DMZ for express delivery.
Ben burn (9f4670) — 8/10/2017 @ 10:18 amBreaking- Trump response to NK’s mocking: “I don’t think they mean that… things will happen to them like they never thought possible.”
Oh, Captain, ask the crew of the USS Pueblo if NK meanswhat it says. Then ask for the ship back.
“I am not an Atomic Playboy.” – Vice Admiral Blandy, Commander, ‘Operation Crossroads’ – Bikini Atoll atomic bomb tests, 1946
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/10/2017 @ 12:04 pmAvenge my uncle, Mr. President – people thought he got off easy being born in 1947 and being assigned to the Korean DMZ, but let me tell you there was a good deal of back-and-forth that got overshadowed by the police action to the south.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 8/10/2017 @ 12:12 pmReport: Trump “Pissed” That Kelly Tried To Control His Twitter Account
Wait ’til he sees this week’s TIME cover. It’s a pisser, too.
thehill.com/…/346011-kelly-joins-list-of-trump-staffers-to-get-time-magazine-cover
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/10/2017 @ 2:10 pmBeldar–
Do you believe a negotiated solution is possible? That Kim will honor a new agreement when he ahs never done so before, starting with the Non-Proliferation Treaty?
If so, what form would it take? If he violated it what would you do? (answer: nothing, he’d have 1200 ICBMs by then).
Kevin M (752a26) — 8/10/2017 @ 9:01 pm