Open Thread
I got nothing. Trump not tweeting? Possible shakeups at the White House? Oroville looking safe? Typos in government tweets or posters? Foreign governments dumping treasuries? That mean obituary? Slow news day, man. Slow news day.
[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]
Ding, I guess
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:04 amNo Grammy kvetching either? Or is that expressly forbidden in this thread.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:08 ami didn’t watch no grammys
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:11 amThe three house staffers nabbed for exfiltrating data to an outside.
narciso (38a5fe) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:14 amMe neither, FB statuses are enough. I had a front row seat to much better George Michael and Juan Gabriel tributes by a live band at a wedding last weekend anyway.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:20 amNational Soros Radio has a sad today because of how capitalism is so poopy and racist
oh dear
consciousness raising makes me hungry
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:21 amI never watch awards shows of any kind, but you can kvetch if you want.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:23 amThat sounds like some OC Weekly level teeth gnashing.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:24 am#6 I can’t wait for the follow-up story about how the Dollar General stores are inherently racist, too.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:31 amI just saw something on Facebook so stupid I don’t even want to repeat it. You’ll read about it somewhere. Has to do with a very ill-advised selfie taken at “Donald Trump Palm Beach Home.”
These people are criminally stupid.
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:35 amYeah but it’s eight-dimensional chess because he’s really not the right guy
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:36 am#6
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:37 amthey told us america has to have this obamacare thing to make health insurance cheaper, so then restaurants say, “hey, let’s make food cheap again,too!” and then the scolding progressives say, “no, that’s racist, you racist islamophobes! and by the way, your cheap restaurants better allow ladyboys into the lady restrooms otherwise you’re transphobic, too!“
Using Facebook is a stupid move in and of itself.
Colonel Haiku (35e836) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:42 amWatching Stephen Miller on This Week was rather interesting. He seemed robotic and was obviously reading from a Teleprompter but he would not back down from Clinton/DNC spokesperson Stephanopolis. I’m sure SNL and the usual suspects will have a new target.
The NYTimes links him in their profile to white supremists which is interesting considering he fought for the right of Larry Elder to speak at his high school.
Read his piece on working to change the toxic lefty culture at Santa Monica High, it’s pretty good.
http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=17409
Harkin (311cb7) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:44 amIf Trump is smart he’ll visit Oroville, commit to helping out but also draw contrast to a governor who recently declared CA in a permanent drought, threatened the president with an army of lawyers over climate policy, neglected flood concerns and maintenance on spillways and squandered billion$ on a high-speed train to nowhere that’s main purpose seems to be channeling much-needed state funds to political cronies.
Harkin (311cb7) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:50 amJust to be clear, tapper was the one that contacted her
https://mobile.twitter.com/BoSnerdley/status/831153003625402368
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:50 amDont knock Dollar General, they are damn close to being the FW Woolworth of our times. I’m calling Giovanni Ribisi for the SNL Stephen Miller treatment and some Hamilton flotsam for high school tormentors.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:55 amWell their CEO is now in the us senate
dailycaller.com/2017/02/12/exclusive-exposed-richard-cordray-texts-contain-worrying-cfpb-lobbyist-connections
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:57 amNow that the outdoor ranges are going to be more hospitable, I’m looking to buy a gun which is as about as practical as a dune buggy in the South Pole but that I really, really want. Super want.
Then I saw one which is totally different, that my daughter could shoot too. She’s not ready for the cap and ball yet. I know I’d be proud to have it, but it really wouldn’t scratch my movie cowboy itch. Do you see the dilemma?
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:04 amHere’s a better picture of the cap and ball.
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:08 amSorry, I guess that’s where all the links go.
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:09 amhttp://joshblackman.com/blog/2017/02/11/why-did-a-judge-on-the-9th-circuit-make-a-sua-sponte-request-for-en-banc-when-the-white-house-wants-to-go-back-to-the-district-court
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:09 amare you talking about the nuclear football thingy
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:14 amWalter Russell Mead commentary in The American Interest:
“Already a kind of Trump Derangement Syndrome has set in, interfering with the ability of many people to see what Trump is (and isn’t) accomplishing. Creating TDS is part of Trump’s method: making his opponents underestimate him turned out to be a very useful element in his winning campaign strategy. And stampeding the media into a frenzy of contradictory invective and attack is one of the techniques he uses to weaken his opponents, cloud their minds, and discredit them in the minds of his supporters and, over time, he hopes, some doubters as well.”
ThOR (c9324e) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:22 amI would like to use this open thread to ask;
Why are the Progressives mad at Trump? Trump isn’t the one who stole an election. The Democrat establishment watched, horrified, as the rank and file Left voted for Bernie Sanders, and in a panic they jiggered the nomination process to hand the baton to Hillary. Their defense? That Sanders was not electable. But, as Trump demonstrated, neither was Hillary.
Is it possible that all this drama is part of an attempt by the Liberal establishment to distract the rank and file from these facts?
C. S. P. Schofield (99bd37) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:27 amHillary told the CNN Anderson Cooper fake news propaganda sluts to do everything they could to help Trump get the nomination
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:30 amHere’s the “mean obituary”.
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:55 am@nk,
Re, that obituary;
Wow. Sounds like the man should be interred under a urinal.
C. S. P. Schofield (99bd37) — 2/13/2017 @ 10:01 amEvil, seems a little overwrought imho
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 10:08 amWell, duh C.S.P. and a lesser duh to HF. The Dems got burnt and the antics of their brigades probably changed Trump from a Souter to a Sessions. The aged Sanders would have America’s do-over button (e.g. a likely die-in-office) and a military officer or younger vet running mate could have gotten him over the top. Much like a prospective Dean-Clark ticket in ’04.
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 2/13/2017 @ 10:08 amHe passed his mean genes on, seems like.
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 10:16 am26 – “Hillary told the CNN Anderson Cooper fake news propaganda sluts to do everything they could to help Trump get the nomination.”
Considering how many lefty commenters were celebrating the Trump nomination as a slam-dunk Hillary win, this is not far-fetched.
Harkin (311cb7) — 2/13/2017 @ 10:25 am“Why are the Progressives mad at Trump?”
C. S. P. Schofield,
I wouldn’t characterized the prog conditioned response as mad. The bell rings, the dogs drool, emotion plays no part. The progs are back to What’s The Matter With Kansas? again and they are tinkering with their model, trying to solve the concentration/dispersion miscalculation which defeated the Greater Evil. The conditioned response antics are filler while they work out another incorrect solution. The triumph of the Lesser Evil has greatly increased the probability stark reality is going to strip the facade from utopian California and Illinois, revealing the complete lack of substance and structure supporting the facade. Progs are going to be surprised, once again, when the revolting peasants show up in Sacramento and Springfield.
Rick Ballard (5e8a41) — 2/13/2017 @ 10:45 amMuslim-American lady Olympian throws out the bait;obedient media snaps right at it and leaps to desired conclusion.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/reporters-trip-all-over-themselves-botching-an-olympians-story-about-being-detained/article/2614645
elissa (95d18b) — 2/13/2017 @ 11:02 amYes it adds up to enemy action:
https://pjmedia.com/spengler/2017/02/13/the-cia-really-is-out-to-get-general-flynn/
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 11:08 amMeanwhile, in Pakistan, the high court has banned Valentine’s Day!
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 2/13/2017 @ 11:18 amNK,
If you are interested in black powder guns–Check your local laws on Black Powder possesion… It has been many decades since I have shot BP pistols and it appears that BP may be difficult to get here in California (there is a BP synthetic now?).
For example, in California:
http://legalbeagle.com/6662596-black-powder-gun-laws-california.html
I drifted away from BP and have a lot of fun with 22LR (pistols and rifles). Relatively cheap (especially if 22LR drops from >$0.10 a round to >$0.02 a round if the gun and ammunition run is “over”).
BP is messy and a bit finicky to shoot (moisture, clogged nipples, rust, etc.).
Otherwise you can find bigger rounds for $0.20-$0.50 per round for larger stuff (cheap/on sale “goes bang” stuff).
-BfC
BfC (5517e8) — 2/13/2017 @ 11:52 amHow about a Georgetown University professor who thinks slavery is great, as long as it’ Muslims being the slavers.
http://angry.net/blog2/?p=23568
Angry Webmaster (c2a001) — 2/13/2017 @ 11:58 am“Expediting trips to heaven” for the family pets is hilarious!
Colonel Haiku (25433a) — 2/13/2017 @ 12:00 pmI’m in Illinois, Bfc. I have to buy even blackpowder guns through an FFL dealer. They’re treated just like cartridge firearms here. But I can order it online and it will be shipped to my designated dealer who will confirm my ID and run the background check for $35.00 – $50.00.
And you’re right about black powder. The only place that sells it near me (relatively near) is a Bass Pro Shop 25 miles away, and I think the limit is one pound at a time. It’s considered an explosive, that requires special storage that a lot of gun shops don’t want to deal with; and the limited amount rule is, I suspect, a federal one to keep it out of the hands of bomb-makers. As opposed to the BP substitutes, which are considered propellants, and you can find them at any gun store and many sporting goods stores.
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 12:09 pmAnd the GSG MP40 that I’m looking at as an alternative is .22LR. Check out this video, especially at 5:15 et seq to see why it attracts me, besides it being suitable for a fourteen-year old. 😉
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 12:30 pmI used to have a ’51 Navy, and BFC is right, they’re messy. The problem comes in where it’s wise to seal each loaded cylinder with grease to stop the burning powder from your shot setting off other of the cylinders. By the time you shoot off all six shots out got a nasty mess that makes reloading, already a tedious job, unpleasant. Mostly mine made me really appreciate the advent of smokeless powder and the brass cartridge.
If you’re going to get into black powder, I suggest this as more fun. http://www.gunbroker.com/item/619787953
Leon (1bee31) — 2/13/2017 @ 12:44 pmJust got an email from meetup.com…. Regardless of own-goal letter of law issues, looks like they are getting political and misrepresenting the EO in intent and adopting whole cloth hack memes as well.
#accountcancelled
rtrski (2826b6) — 2/13/2017 @ 1:51 pmI see they caught President Trump shaking hands with a pussy today.
mg (31009b) — 2/13/2017 @ 2:04 pmhttps://www.wsj.com/articles/syria-detains-opponents-as-it-reasserts-control-1486466727
Note the inclusion of doctors….
Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42) — 2/13/2017 @ 2:10 pmC. S. P. Schofield (99bd37) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:27 am
They really jiggled it before it started, and tried to do more than they managed.
I would say the ,ore dishonest wing of the Democratic Party, but these would be some of the people close to Clinton or who supported Clinton. But they are not quite establishment.
Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42) — 2/13/2017 @ 2:15 pmTennessee is going too far with their bill about protesters. This is dangerous. If protesters are blocking traffic, call the police and let them handle it. This bill, with only a vague qualification, is giving people immunity from hitting protesters in the street: http://newschannel9.com/news/local/tn-bill-drivers-who-hit-protesters-immune-to-civil-liability
Tillman (a95660) — 2/13/2017 @ 2:16 pmhttp://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/02/13/sales-skyrocket-after-joy-villa-wears-pro-trump-dress-to-grammys/ from #530,000 -#3 in less than a day.
mg (31009b) — 2/13/2017 @ 2:27 pmToday was Doonesbury day (DJT and Trudeau). Tomorrow is supposed to be Doomsday for Big 7 “refugees.” In other news, the popcorn industry reports record sales.
Ed from SFV (3400a5) — 2/13/2017 @ 2:52 pmSpeaking of the “nuclear football” and North Korea’s missile test:
During the presidential campaign, Donald Trump insisted in multiple interviews that America would be safer if Japan, South Korea and Saudi Arabia all had nuclear weapons(*). So I was disappointed to see that last week’s Japan/American summit ended without The Great Negotiator getting Prime Minister Abe to accept Japan’s responsibility to shelter America under a Japanese nuclear umbrella.
Yet another example of Trump’s ignorant bluster being followed by abject surrender. Let’s hope, for America’s sake, that he has more luck convincing the Saudis to construct and deploy nuclear weapons.
(*) Trump later brazenly lied and denied ever saying what he had said on videotape about Japanese nukes.
Dave (711345) — 2/13/2017 @ 2:56 pmExtraordinary amount of silliness and hand wringing going on about the military aide photo. You can find photos of Presidential military aides on Getty Images.
SPQR (a3a747) — 2/13/2017 @ 2:57 pmYes its gotten very silly, now Biden actually pointed to the map with thevfootball
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 3:06 pm“Extraordinary amount of silliness and hand wringing going on about the military aide photo. You can find photos of Presidential military aides on Getty Images.”
– SPQR
How about getting briefed on a North Korean missile launch in the middle of a party at Mar A Lago, without even leaving the table?
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/13/2017 @ 3:17 pmRegistration fees for Mar A Lago have apparently doubled since Trump was selected President, by the way. From $100,000 to $200,000.
I have it on good information that this sort of influence peddling is absolutely impossible to avoid, and should be disregarded.
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/13/2017 @ 3:20 pmThose paying 200 grand are pikers compared to the golf community’s big boy courses.
https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/other/members-only-the-10-most-exclusive-golf-clubs-48494?single-page
Membership at the Mar-a-Lago Club required a $200,000 initiation fee up until 2012 when it was lowered to $100,000. Sources close to the resort indicated the cut was in response to reduced demand following the Bernie Madoff scandal which affected many affluent Palm Beach residents. The fee was returned to $200,000 in January 2017 following the election of Donald Trump as president with $14,000 annual dues.
elissa (95d18b) — 2/13/2017 @ 4:04 pm“The fee was [doubled] to $200,000 in January 2017 following the election of Donald Trump as president ”
– elissa
Yeah, that’s what I was getting at.
Leviticus (efada1) — 2/13/2017 @ 4:11 pmBut you neglected to mention (or perhaps did not know) that the fee had previously been $200,000 before it was lowered and then brought back to $200,000 i.e., doubled. Maybe that’s relevant information or maybe it’s not. Just want to keep the story line honest
elissa (95d18b) — 2/13/2017 @ 4:20 pmWhole lot of fake news going around:
therightscoop.com/kellyanne-conway-mike-flynn-does-enjoy-the-full-confidence-of-trump
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 4:28 pmI understand that Bill Clinton’s speaking fees went through the roof after he was President.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 2/13/2017 @ 4:55 pmI also hear that Bill Ayers is going to get a huge book deal.
Oh, come on, Leviticus. Xaviera Hollander charging $1,000 a night. In 1968. That’s $7,121.89 in today’s money!
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 5:11 pmI got nothing. Slow news day…
A grave filled but a SCOTUS seat vacant twelve months. Scalia died a year ago today.
How soon ‘they’ forget.
“He’s dead, Jim.” – Dr. Leonard McCoy [DeForest Kelley] almost any episode, ‘Star Trek’ NBC TV, 1966-1969
DCSCA (797bc0) — 2/13/2017 @ 5:14 pmBy the way, the Supreme Court has ruled that Congress retains the power to compel American citizens to purchase something in the private market even if they choose not to.
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 2/13/2017 @ 5:22 pm“Uh, Mrs Smith, we don’t care if you don’t play golf, the Supreme Court says you have to!” LOL
http://ww.washingtonexaminer.com/report-gay-npr-commentary-contributor-charged-with-assault-in-betsy-devos-fracas-was-a-refugee-whose-family-fled-the-taliban/article/2614656
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 5:23 pmAwkward i think
ttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/13/canada-arrests-asylum-seekers-trump-travel-ban?CMP=twt_gu
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 5:25 pmSutter County Jail inmates evacuated to Bay Area jail. I think they said 500 but I can’t confirm.
Shipped to Oakland.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/13/2017 @ 5:30 pmDon’t care if you are an ACLU lawyer, you ARE going to buy Mrs. Smith’s Apple Pies.
papertiger (c8116c) — 2/13/2017 @ 5:35 pmHow about getting briefed on a North Korean missile launch in the middle of a party at Mar A Lago, without even leaving the table?
Perhaps there was a message in that. Not everything needs to be dealt with in a bunker. Perhaps if more of this were discussed in the open, we’d get in fewer wars.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:09 pmI have it on good information that this sort of influence peddling is absolutely impossible to avoid, and should be disregarded.
This never happened in JFK’s favorite clubs.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:09 pmI understand that Bill Clinton’s speaking fees went through the roof after he was President.
As did Barack Obama’s. I suspect though, they would have both been higher if Hillary had won. Shoot, Chelsea would be getting $1 million for a speech to nearly anyone who needed Hillary’s approval on something.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:11 pm“Uh, Mrs Smith, we don’t care if you don’t play golf, the Supreme Court says you have to!” LOL
No, Mrs Smith can pay a “non-golfer’s tax” instead.
Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:12 pmShooting some links
Kishnevi (0cb353) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:21 pm.http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/gop-senators-puzder/
Is this opposition real, and if so, only because of the housemaid?
About Gorsuch
Kishnevi (0cb353) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:24 pmhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4196096/Trump-s-Supreme-Court-pick-belongs-liberal-church.html
And on the subject of music
Kishnevi (0cb353) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:24 pmhttps://ww2.kqed.org/arts/2017/02/07/why-john-adams-wont-write-an-opera-about-president-trump/
Well the first three serum likely, Scott is the outlier
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:27 pmTwo hundred grand should be minimum initiation for mom and pop illegals to enter the U.S.A.
mg (31009b) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:27 pmBibi is enroute, Can Trump hire him?
mg (31009b) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:31 pmthe nasty lobsterpot bimbo who’s never had a non-government job her whole pitiful life says she has to watch Oprah a few more times to figure out whether she can vote for Mr. Pudzer, a distinguished businessman
happyfeet (28a91b) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:44 pmTwo hundred grand should be minimum initiation for mom and pop illegals to enter the U.S.A.
It’s $1 million, under the law, mg. But it can be $500,000 if they move to a “High Unemployment” or “Rural Area”.
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:45 pmReally, nk? Somebody owes us some serious dough.
mg (31009b) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:51 pmWhile were chasing fake news about general flynn
http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-dhs-jeh-johnson-email-production-00967-pg-107-110
narciso (d1f714) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:54 pmAspen qualifies as a rural area. Prince Bandar can form a charter company and lease his private jet to himself, and get a green card for himself, his spouse and minor children, but I’m sure he already knows that.
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:54 pmYour flaming immigration laws are one big flaming joke.
nk (dbc370) — 2/13/2017 @ 6:55 pmHow has everyones aspen?
mg (31009b) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:03 pmHere’s today’s feel-good story:
“Wife, stepson charged in murder of KKK imperial wizard”
Three fewer Trump voters in Missouri.
Dave (711345) — 2/13/2017 @ 7:26 pm#84 That’s right, Dave, you alleged “conservative,” keep playing ‘dat race card.
The Democrat party is the historical home of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, the KKK, Japanese Internment Camps, Senator Robert Byrd, and the like, but you keep pimpin’ yo’ false histery, ya’ angry jackazz. (LOL)
Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:09 pmWhat’s the “fake news about general flynn”??
Patterico (115b1f) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:15 pmYou go, Dave! You teh Man!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:16 pmNK,
Highly suggest the first gun be a single shot bolt action 22LR rifle. As kids, that was the most popular of the stuff we should shoot.
Also, single shots really makes the shooter think about each shot.
I have taken groups of kids shooting with Ruger 10/22s and others (and friends with M1’s and others)–It is really difficult to get kids (and even adults) to pay attention to sight picture/holding/pulling the trigger when there are 9-10 more (this is California) rounds in the magazine.
I found black powder (when a I was a kid) to require a bit too much fiddling (and sometimes strength) to load. And if you have a miss-fire (or somebody forgets to put power in first)–Then you are playing around to get the round out (like removing the nipple and pouring enough BP in the chamber behind the round to get enough pressure to expel the lead).
-Bill
BfC (5517e8) — 2/13/2017 @ 8:56 pm@65– el tigre: The actual location of the landing was the Santa Rita county (Alameda) jail in Pleasanton; Oakland is the county seat and sports only a smaller jail facility… The Alameda County SO said their jail was built for 5000, but population now only about 2500. The Sheriff said “… come on down…!” when the call went out. The unofficial number of transferred “guests” was just short of 600.
Evacuation orders can stir up all kinds of logistic problems that we don’t think about… unti it happens.
Gramps (942f7b) — 2/14/2017 @ 11:59 amI didn’t put anythiing in this thread earlier.
http://www.lovethispic.com/image/235796/groundhog-phil-lied
Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42) — 2/22/2017 @ 12:37 pm