Mary Cheney Wants To Know
[guest post by Dana]
Mary Cheney, Dick Cheney’s openly gay and married daughter has ruffled feathers with her latest Facebook post:
Why is it socially acceptable — as a form of entertainment — for men to put on dresses, make up and high heels and act out every offensive stereotype of women (bitchy, catty, dumb, slutty, etc.) — but it is not socially acceptable — as a form of entertainment — for a white person to put on blackface and act out offensive stereotypes of African Americans?
“Shouldn’t both be ok or neither?
Cheney made it clear that she was not “drawing comparisons between white people painting their faces black and transgender individuals, only men who entertain in drag.”
–Dana
Hello.
Dana (8e74ce) — 2/2/2015 @ 9:04 pmSnicker. The only time that should be allowed is when lesbians dress themselves up as boys to prey on high school girls, or male gays dress themselves as women to attract naive (young) men. Welcome to your world, Mary.
nk (dbc370) — 2/2/2015 @ 9:23 pmUm, does anyone really find men-in-drag comedians funny in 2015? Is Dame Edna still peddling his schtick out there somewhere these days? I think Mary Cheney is fighting battles from 50 years ago.
JVW (60ca93) — 2/2/2015 @ 9:33 pmIf she’s not equating drag queens with Blackface, why is she bringing it up as a comparison?
Funeral Guy (2b0c22) — 2/2/2015 @ 11:16 pmIn case anybody’s wondering What brought this on? let us remember that Mardis Gras, when around half of the men (of any letter of the alphabet) who masque do so as women, is two weeks away.
Nolanimrod (3c2a2d) — 2/2/2015 @ 11:41 pmFrankly, it strikes me as a reasonable question to ask. But I’m a Crank who doesn’t see why Blackface should be off limits. Is it offensive? Sure! And letting some people get a lot of attention because they publicly announced that Blackface got their nickers in a twist was the start of the whole “Hate Speech” idea.
The proper response to the cry “Such-and-such speech is hateful!” is “So? Deal with it. If he calls you “Nigger”, call him “Honky”. Or, better yet, call him “Vulgar”. But don’t pretend you have a right to not be offended.
Do we have freedom of speech, or don’t we? Qualified “Freedom” is not freedom, because those who decide on the qualification WILL expand their power until the only freedom you have is the freedom to agree with them, or be re-educated.
The kicker is that the little darling didn’t mean it the way I mean it. She is one of the would-be censors; trying to expand what doesn’t qualify. Pity she won’t learn from what she is about to receive.
C. S. P. Schofield (848299) — 2/3/2015 @ 1:29 amDrag Race comes back March 2nd
maybe Mary can bring her special brand of charisma uniqueness nerve and talent to the show and amplify on her deep thinkings for so we can understand more better
happyfeet (831175) — 2/3/2015 @ 2:26 amMiss Cheney asked a question which actually shows some foresight: it won’t be long before it won’t be
acceptableallowed for men to dress up as women for the purposes of comedy, though they’ll have to figure out how to write the rules to still allow transvestites and transexuals to keep on practicing their mental diseases.In the future, only those jokes which target normal American white males, as long as they are alpha males, and Christians and Jews will be allowed.
The sadly realistic Dana (f6a568) — 2/3/2015 @ 3:28 amAmerica runs on money. Spend it at stores that have similar morals and values as you.
mg (31009b) — 2/3/2015 @ 4:14 ammg, I didn’t know that stores had morals or values. In fact, it seems that they aren’t even allowed to have such, or bakers and florists couldn’t be sued or penalized for not agreeing to provide their products for homosexual “weddings.”
The federal government started fighting racial discrimination by defining places of public business as public accommodations, and making it against the law for a public accommodation to refuse to serve or sell to blacks. That same sort of thinking goes into laws which prohibit discrimination on other bases. Stores don’t have morals or values because their owners are restricted from putting their values into their businesses.
The economist Dana (f6a568) — 2/3/2015 @ 4:58 amThis is why I’m an antisocial curmudgeon, it’s the only thang y’all will never abide.
DNF (fc27ea) — 2/3/2015 @ 5:48 amWhy is it socially acceptable for thugs, thieves, strong-arm robbers, and tax cheats, who happen to be black, to be given a free pass or portrayed in the media as innocent little boys who were viciously targeted by a presumed racist police culture (and marked out for prosecution or extermination) when the verifiable truth revealing the exact opposite was caught on video tape, or sustained by physical evidence and eye-witness testimony?
Shouldn’t the despicable villains who get paid by so-called respectable news organizations to peddle such filthy lies be held accountable for their crimes against the people?
ropelight (0bf9e0) — 2/3/2015 @ 6:02 amThe sadly realistic Dana at 8 gets it. This is a fight between sideshow freaks. The Bearded Lady versus the Half Man/Half Woman. (Don’t ask me which is which.)
There’s also this. Lesbians want to have and promote the illusion that they are normal women. Transvestites, who look and behave more like women than they do, remind people that they are nothing more than another entry in the listing of paraphilias. Transvestites fetishize women’s accoutrements; lesbians fetishize women’s secondary sexual characteristics; two peas in the same sick pod.
And Mary, honey, why isn’t it transvestitism when bull dykes get crew cuts and go around in flannel shirts, dungarees, and Red Wing boots?
nk (dbc370) — 2/3/2015 @ 6:34 am== bull dykes get crew cuts and go around in flannel shirts, dungarees, and Red Wing boots?==
You mean they don’t all just have heavy construction jobs, nk? I believe I had better sit down.
elissa (b37a78) — 2/3/2015 @ 6:40 amBy some people it is the opposite.
The first one is Biblically prohibited:
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0522.htm
Deuteronomy 22:5
לֹא-יִהְיֶה כְלִי-גֶבֶר עַל-אִשָּׁה, וְלֹא-יִלְבַּשׁ גֶּבֶר שִׂמְלַת אִשָּׁה: כִּי תוֹעֲבַת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ, כָּל-עֹשֵׂה אֵלֶּה. {פ} 5 A woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment; for whosoever doeth these things is an abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Bit the second one was something that got New York Assemblyman Dov Hikind on trouble, and he had to appologize, because he did that at a Purim party.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/26/nyregion/hikind-defends-wearing-blackface-to-purim-party.html?_r=0
Apparently black characters are something for white people to avoid on Halloween, or otehr occasions when they might put on a costume.
Sammy Finkelman (e806a6) — 2/3/2015 @ 11:11 amCSP Schofield – Who has taken away anyone’s freedom to say “nigger,” or to go around in blackface? Social unacceptability isn’t “censorship.” In fact, it’s freedom of speech at work, where others can express disapproval of speech or actions that they find offensive.
Jonny Scrum-half (96f25f) — 2/3/2015 @ 1:31 pmropelight – I assume that you’re referring to the Ferguson shooting and the Staten Island choking. I hope that you can understand that you’ve greatly simplified the issue in a non-helpful way. I don’t necessarily agree with making Ferguson the focus of demonstrations, because the facts were too hard to ascertain, but if you think that it was okay to place a “tax cheat” in a choke hold that resulted in his death, then I don’t know what to say other than to ask you to consider that perhaps it would have been a better idea to issue him a summons.
Finally, what are your thoughts on the videotape showing the shooting deaths (by police) of 2 black kids/men in Ohio? I look at that and conclude that either (a) cops often are too quick to pull a gun in situations involving young black men, (b) there are so many guns on the street that cops are reasonably scared for their lives in any confrontation, or (c) both of the above.
Jonny Scrum-half (96f25f) — 2/3/2015 @ 1:40 pm== it’s freedom of speech at work, where others can express disapproval of speech or actions that they find offensive.==
Chief Illiniwek was not available to respond.
elissa (b4497b) — 2/3/2015 @ 1:43 pmfascinated by this recipe for s’mores martinis
i just ordered the “kitchen torch” from amazon
i wanna practice these and have them at hand going into the holidays next year
i’ll need a new set of martini glasses I think I’m down to two
happyfeet (a037ad) — 2/3/2015 @ 1:52 pmJohnny Half-Scrot’s number 17 is chock full of leftist bibble babble.
JD (86a5eb) — 2/3/2015 @ 2:25 pm#17, JS-h, the facts in Ferguson aren’t hard to ascertain at all. A brutal thug got what was coming to him and the country is better off without the likes of Big Mike on the loose.
Actually, it was the odious Al Sharpton I had in mind when I wrote tax cheats. But now that you mention it I can easily see how you or others might assume I was referencing Eric Garner. Sorry for the confusion, it’s my mistake, I wasn’t clear.
The guy in NY was named Eric Garner. (Did you forget his name?) My opinion is that the police overreacted. There was no need for a choke hold. In fact, I commented here that police don’t normally go out on their own initiative in teams of 5 or 6 to arrest street vendors selling loosies. I speculated it was likely someone in Mayor de Blasio’s office, if not the Mayor himself, pushing the police to make a show of enforcing municipal tax regulations so more money would flow into the city’s coffers. Democrats do so love to spend and spend, and they’re always running short of other people’s money and looking for ways to enforce tax laws (which are about the only laws Democrats show much interest in enforcing).
As for the shooting in Ohio. I’m not up to speed on that incident. If you’ll provide a link I’ll have and look and get back to you.
ropelight (0bf9e0) — 2/3/2015 @ 4:02 pmThe place where the police are really bad is Albuquerque:
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/02/son-deceased
It’s not a black and white thing, really, and the people are not criminals, so no Al Sharpton.
Sammy Finkelman (e806a6) — 2/3/2015 @ 5:18 pmBarry Humphries is still performing as Dame Edna. If you’re in the L.A. area, his tour is at the Ahmanson currently.
Nick M. (f8e14b) — 2/5/2015 @ 1:39 amAnd he’s still hilarious.
IMO this “double standard” is explainable by one simple fact: most blackface performances are not as a created character, but as black people generally. You get a lot more social leeway as a specific character.