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11/28/2014

Hillary Clinton: Playing Populist

Filed under: General — Dana @ 2:48 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Remember when populist Hillary Clinton claimed that she and Bill left the White House “dead broke” and as a result, deservedly received heck for it?

“We came out of the White House not only dead broke, but in debt. We had no money when we got there, and we struggled to, you know, piece together the resources for mortgages, for houses, for Chelsea’s education. You know, it was not easy.” (One of the houses was a $2.85 million place in Georgetown that’s now probably worth twice that.)

Well, we can all rest easy now because those days of want are over:

When officials at the University of California at Los Angeles began negotiating a $300,000 speech appearance by Hillary Rodham Clinton, the school had one request: Could we get a reduced rate for public universities?

The answer from Clinton’s representatives: $300,000 is the “special university rate.”

Giving her the benefit of the doubt, maybe she just doesn’t fully grasp basic economics:

Clinton defended raising the minimum wage saying “Don’t let anybody tell you that raising the minimum wage will kill jobs, they always say that.”

She went on to state that businesses and corporations are not the job creators of America. “Don’t let anybody tell you that it’s corporations and businesses that create jobs,” the former Secretary of State said.

But seriously, if she wants to be anyone’s president, shouldn’t she, at the very least, be required to take a refresher course?

Further, there has already been concern expressed about her having lost touch with the very group of voters she seeks to build a campaign around:

Democratic leaders and strategists are concerned that Hillary has lost touch with the middle-class electorate who helped Obama triumph over Romney in 2012, according to the Post, noting that Hillary recently said she had not driven a car since 1996.

“She and her husband are established members of the 1 percent, leading lives far removed from the millions of middle-class voters who swing elections,” wrote Post reporter Philip Rucker.

“It’s going to be a massive issue for her,” an Obama adviser told the Post. “When you’re somebody like the secretary of state or president of the United States or first lady, you’re totally cut off [from normal activity], so your perception of the middle-class reality gets frozen in a time warp.”

How much more now that she is a bona fide diva?

She insists on staying in the “presidential suite” of luxury hotels that she chooses anywhere in the world, including Las Vegas.

She usually requires those who pay her six-figure fees for speeches to also provide a private jet for transportation — only a $39 million, 16-passenger Gulfstream G450 or larger will do.

Further:

When university officials decided to award Clinton the UCLA Medal, Clinton’s team asked that it be presented to her in a box rather than draped around her neck. That request was sent to the university’s chancellor, Gene Block.

“Chancellor Block has agreed to accommodate Hillary Clinton’s request to have the medal presented in a box,” Assistant Provost Margaret Leal-Sotelo wrote in one e-mail.

Lippert replied: “I can either have the jewelers box open or closed, in case the Chancellor doesn’t want to risk opening it.”

Clinton posed for individual photos with 100 VIPS, or 50 couples — “We get a total of 50 clicks,” one university official explained — as well as two group photos. Lippert wrote to colleagues that Clinton’s representatives wanted the group shots “prestaged,” with participants assembled and ready to take the photographs before Clinton arrived “so the secretary isn’t waiting for these folks to get their act together.” Reiterating the request, Lippert added, “She doesn’t like to stand around waiting for people.”

Don’t make her wait, little people, she has better things to do with her time than work for you.

–Dana

86 Responses to “Hillary Clinton: Playing Populist”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (8e74ce)

  2. Hola. And yet, I read in Ed Klein’s book that she got Bill rile up some supporters to retire $500,000 of debt from her presidential campaign. These guys don’t pay for anything. Also, this was money owed to private business owners that she was stiffing. Or about an hour’s “work”.

    Gazzer (cb9ee2)

  3. Wow! The smartest woman in the world.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  4. You want to know why Gruber thinks Americans are idiots? Because he deals with people who’d pay Hillary! $300k for a speech. And those, he figgers, are the smart ones.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  5. yes, he might have a narrow point there, Angelica Rivera, the first lady of Mexico, and a longtime soap opera star, ‘pulled a Hillary’ saying her 7 million peso house, was due to her network roles, and very successful Avon sales, that went over like a lead balloon,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  6. daleyrocks always blames it on her clotty brain. He might be right.

    elissa (f12602)

  7. This is the sad thing about our society. We split from the British because of our dislike of a disconnected aristocracy. And then we created….a disconnected aristocracy.

    But no worries. HRC will be treated differently by the Kneepad Media than other well to do people.

    Unless BHO is as vindictive as people suspect.

    Simon Jester (f42edd)

  8. If you think about it, Dems like her run their lives in the same way they run government. At someone else’s expense, without concern for costs and with no discernible end product or result. Or consequence in the event of failure, which is often.

    Gazzer (cb9ee2)

  9. Elissa, HRC is a odd one. She would, I think, have defeated BHO easily had she divorced the First Horndog. But she still clings to him for reasons I do not understand.

    Imagine her resentment of WJC’s actions over the years, and the adulation he has received throughout.

    She will not receive that respect and affection, and it will make her insane in the membrane angry.

    I half-expect her to sink herself over this, actually. I could be wrong, of course.

    Simon Jester (f42edd)

  10. The lyrics from American Woman, by The Guess Who, come to mind.

    mg (31009b)

  11. I’ve set my sights low. I only want to sell Che T-shirts on college campuses or event-appropriate T-shirts outside of Mike Brown funerals. With some dippy verbage on them that the kind of people who’d buy such a T-shirt would think is cool. But I can look at and chuckle after taking their money.

    But that would be, what? $10 a shirt?

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  12. 9. …She would, I think, have defeated BHO easily had she divorced the First Horndog. But she still clings to him for reasons I do not understand…

    Simon Jester (f42edd) — 11/28/2014 @ 3:28 pm

    She would have gotten elected for reasons I don’t understand, then.

    I suppose if you’re the kind of person who believes in nonsense like global warming you are also capable of thinking Hillary! is smart and accomplished. If you want to see a lib’s head go all ‘splodey ask for just one shred of evidence to back that up. Just one shred.

    As Simon Jester notes, the evidence goes the other way. What litter their is for the She-Grizzly of Tuzla.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  13. *…What litter their is for the She-Grizzly of Tuzla.

    Whoa. Was that Freudian or what?

    What little there is for the She-Grizzly of Tuzla.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  14. “daleyrocks always blames it on her clotty brain. He might be right.”

    elissa – I don’t take any credit for that meme. That was a Mr. Feets interpretation of her medical condition. Could also be the lingering effects of some STD that Bill passed on to her from his endless dalliances.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  15. Yeah Daley, like they had sex more than that one time.

    Gazzer (cb9ee2)

  16. Steve, trust me: you could sell Che shirts with a Latin inscription reading “trust not popular heroes” to most students for 40 bucks. Just say you are raising money to raise awareness for a March on DC in protest of Cis-Het Dominance.

    I’m not kidding. Far too many students are exactly when Lenin said about the West.

    Simon Jester (f42edd)

  17. Liberalism. It’s a combination of too much money and too many daddy issues. I smell opportunity.

    Why shouldn’t I cash in on it? Why shouldn’t everybody? If we don’t take their money they’ll just give it to the Hillary! campaign. I consider it a public service. Plus I get to put my “brand” on liberals.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  18. Forty bucks? Again, I was setting my sights too low.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  19. Oh goodness, (reaches for smelling salts) I certainly did not intend for the Clintons’ various and sundry sex lives to enter into this discussion.

    elissa (f12602)

  20. Ever notice how the people who are really upset that Bill Cosby has gotten away with it for so long can’t wait until Bill Clinton is back in the WH?

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  21. no I think that is her entitled attitude, for reasons passing understanding,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  22. One should start at the beginning of this American Tragedy.
    http://1984arkansasmotheroftheyear.blogspot.com/2011/12/rhodes-scholar-bill-raped-19-yr-old.html

    mg (31009b)

  23. I agree narciso. But I do think that when many people (pols, actors, musicians, athletes) who have come from modest circumstances get a taste of the perks and privilege and social power of a celeb life it’s hard for them to pull back, or to recognize the hypocrisy that others so clearly see in how they behave.

    elissa (f12602)

  24. Hillary will need to figure out who she is: either a “Let them eat cake” or an “I feel your pain” candidate. She cannot be one while pretending to be the other, especially as the clock is ticking and Jim Webb is already positioning himself to be the latter sort of opponent:

    “He’s not reading cards handed to him by staff. He speaks from the heart and the mind and he’s got considerable voltage in both areas,” Kerrey says.

    “Don’t underestimate him, that’s the first thing,” says Mark Rozell, public policy professor at Virginia’s George Mason University. That’s what happened when Webb ran for the Senate as a political newcomer: long before Occupy Wall Street coined the term “the 99%,” Webb had “a very effective populist message in that campaign that appealed to Democratic voters concerned about economic inequality,” Rozell said.

    Dana (8e74ce)

  25. War On Women!

    I don’t want to link to the HuffPo. But here’s Rush talking about the Huffpo piece.

    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2009/08/28/huffpo_lib_on_mary_jo_kopechne_maybe_she_d_feel_it_was_worth_it7

    …I tell you, folks, this is just unbelievable. There’s actually a piece at the Huffing and Puffington Post on what would Mary Jo Kopechne have thought of Ted’s career. It’s written by a woman, and the last line: “Who knows — maybe [Mary Jo Kopechne]’d feel it was worth it.” Are we to believe now that liberal young women like to die for the cause of advancing Kennedys’ careers?…

    If there’s a war on women, liberal women have surrendered unconditionally and they’re bringing kneepads and lube to the victors’ after-party.

    “I’d Be Happy to Give Him [Oral Sex] Just to Thank Him for Keeping Abortion Legal”

    – former Time magazine White House correspondent Nina Burleigh

    It’s just … weird. Watching these people get their panties in a wad over Bill Cosby. Whoopi Goldberg tells me Roman Polanski didn’t commit “rape rape” when he drugged and fornicated a thirteen year old. Apparently like all liberals she’s cool with child sacrifice as long as it’s for a good cause. Like thanking the man who made “Chinatown” or who kept abortion legal. She’d vote for Bill Clinton (which is really what people who’d elect Hillary! are voting for) in a heartbeat.

    I think she and others like her have lost the right to get upset over Bill Cosby.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  26. she could have won the nomination last time, would she have then gone on to win the election, the perfect storm of 2008, including the black swan of the Lehman crash is magic eight ball,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  27. Bill Cosby’s crime was, apparently, letting them grow up before he drugged and raped them.

    Either that or it was telling black people to pull up their pants and get a job.

    Yeah, I’m betting on the latter.

    …In late October, comedian Hannibal Buress bluntly attacked what he perceived as Cosby’s “smuggest old black man public persona” by saying, “Yeah, but you rape women, Bill Cosby, so turn the crazy down a couple notches. ‘I don’t curse onstage.’ Well, yeah, you’re (a) rapist, so I’ll take you saying lots of m*****f*****s on ‘Bill Cosby: Himself’ if you weren’t a rapist.”…

    If he just didn’t say things libs don’t like, they’d be cool with the whole rape thing.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  28. I think it was written in the wind that a Democrat would win the 2008 presidential election almost regardless of who was heading the ballot. She and Bill both thought it would be her, but then they unexpectedly ran into the historic One’s buzzsaw. I think that damaged her and she will never ever get over it and her resentment over it. My gut tells me she will not end up running in 2016, but that in full grifter -style she is more than happy to keep up the hype and to rope in plenty of money and donations in the meantime.

    I still don’t get the point of her wanting her medal presented in a box rather than around her neck. Would that make it easier to auction off later or something?

    elissa (f12602)

  29. Perhaps she didn’t want the hoi polloi touching her when draping it over her neck?

    Dana (8e74ce)

  30. Sorry to mention the rape thing. But then, this thread is about a Democrat so it’s tough to avoid.

    Really, it would be much more in keeping with the Holiday spirit if we were all discussing Kim Kardashian’s overexposed and heavily oiled badonkadonk.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  31. I think we should not be happy with, or accepting of, either the first horndog’s or Cosby’s behavior. Yes, the progs and mfm are hypocrites in how they are covering this. But the progs will, as always, take their stand and/or ignore what they think is necessary. We’re supposed to be better than that on our side.

    elissa (f12602)

  32. Of course, this isn’t $300,000 net cash to her. She’s got expenses: advance people, body people, media people, etc., and their costs to cover. I’m not sure if that makes things better or worse, though. We worry about Presidents coming to be “in the bubble.” Hillary has been bubbled for so long now she probably cannot remember any other way to be.

    Mahon (ac46f1)

  33. this is an extraordinary bit of egotism, this is how the CIA gives awards to their employees

    narciso (ee1f88)

  34. I saw another former Secretary of State, Madeleine Albright, in one of these paid university lecture/award receiving situations. I can assure you that aside from a driver and a handler/coordinator with the university, and a security person, she did not have a full entourage of media people, body people, photographers ( and definitely not hair and make-up people).

    elissa (f12602)

  35. My daughter is so not going to a UCat.

    nk (dbc370)

  36. Using the word “refresher” in the same article as “Hillary Clinton” causes unwanted images.

    Kevin M (d91a9f)

  37. Elissa, I strongly believe that politicians should be viewed as a necessary evil, and an evil that bears constant watching.

    We should always keep tar and feathers at the ready. Always.

    I remind myself of some of the folks I knew in high school on student council. Many of them want to be politicians.

    Brrrrr.

    Simon Jester (f42edd)

  38. Lady pantsuit could be labeled a rape enabler.

    mg (31009b)

  39. If Hillary uses hair and makeup people and still looks the way she does, it’s money well spent. She’d scare children without them.

    nk (dbc370)

  40. These days there surely don’t seem to be a lot of what once were called “statesmen”, are there, Simon?

    elissa (f12602)

  41. Elissa, I am getting to be an old fellow. But in the 1970s, I was able to visit DC (for a street rat like me, that was a big deal) for a week and hear from all kinds of politicians. This was during the Watergate mess, so the Democrats were all smug, and the Republicans eager to communicate.

    Who impressed me the most? Two people. Bob Dole (I have no idea who that fellow as who ran for President, the Bob Dole I met was vital, charismatic, and clear with young folk). But amazingly, to me, was the fact I got to have lunch twice with Barry Goldwater. I became so angry at the way he was portrayed in my high school. Goldwater was great; he was the fellow who insisted I read Milton Friedman.

    But at the same time (and Goldwater told me this), politicians have to wheel and deal, and are not pure. But those two were remarkable people for a 17 year old to meet.

    How about you, elissa?

    Simon Jester (f42edd)

  42. I’m younger than I seem because I remember too much, but Goldwater was a man of principle, an iconoclast, I guess somewhat like Gene McCarthy, but one was excoriated and the other celebrated,
    in part because the country needed to work out it’s temper tantrum over Vietnam,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  43. L-I-M-O-U-S-I-N-E
    L-I-B-E-R-A-L

    And don’t you forget it.

    But she’s good at dodging sniper fire on airport tarmacs.

    Liberalism truly — truly — has to be a mental illness for people to admire and rally around Bill’s doormat and ball-and-chain.

    Mark (c160ec)

  44. elissa, I’m appalled by Cosby’s and Clinton’s behavior. I have no reason to doubt their accusers’ stories. I’m also appalled by the spectacle the LHMFM is putting on. And by the Democrats who pretend to be upset by Cosby’s behavior when they wouldn’t be if he was somehow in a position to do something pro-abortion.

    It’s the latter two groups I find mock-worthy. Not Cosby’s or Clinton’s behavior.

    I feel like it’s my duty to heap scorn on these rapists enablers. And yes the media was Cosby’s enabler just as much as Clinton’s. Cosby’s rapist ways hardly could have been a secret. Just like those producers and directors who for years raped little boys (and girls). Apparently everyone in Hollywood knew what was going on. And they hushed it up.

    It’s just another reason I don’t watch TV.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  45. Oh Simon Jester, Barry Goldwater is a magic name. For me–he symbolized patriot, Renaissance man, military man, statesman and yes, at times prickly/imperfect/contradictory pol. I think he would have fit in well at a supper with the founding fathers. I have a hand autographed 8X10 photograph of him, but I am insanely jealous that you met him!

    I’d add another name to the statesman list: Everett McKinley Dirkson from my home state. Following are a few quotes from his 1969 obit in the NYT.

    At a $100-a-plate dinner in Chicago in April, 1966, he …. intoned:

    “No, you can’t eat freedom, or buy anything with it. You can’t hock it downtown for the things you need. When a baby curls a chubby arm around your neck, you can’t eat that feeling either, or buy anything with it. But what in this life means more to you than that feeling, or your freedom?”

    He was the very archetype of the politician, with all the politician’s shortcomings and virtues. Inconstant, ….. he was found, in the course of his career, on both sides of almost every question. But he also had the talent for compromise, adjustment and conciliation that is the secret of effective government under the American system.

    Furthermore, he loved the processes of politics–the wiles, the guile, the wheelings and dealings, even its fustian. But he almost always stopped short of cant.

    …..From boyhood, his ear was enraptured by the rolling phrase, the well-turned apothegm, and he rarely let a day pass without rolling or turning one of his own. Sometimes they were 100-proof corn, but often they deserved a place in a political Bartlett. Thus, his lapidary “The oil can is mightier than the sword” captures in eight words the essence of the democratic process.

    On one occasion, during his absence in a hospital, three Republican bills were narrowly defeated. On his return, he said:

    “To my bedridden amazement, my pajama-ruffled consternation, yes, my pill-laden astonishment, I learned they were victims of that new White House telephonic half-Nelson known as the Texas twist.” (needling LBJ)

    elissa (f12602)

  46. The post, and all the comments, are cis-normative, hetero-normative, sexist, misogynistic, and rapey. Denounced, and condemned.

    JD (86a5eb)

  47. Sorry if my cis-normative, hetero-normative, sexist, and misogynistic comments came across as rapey.

    I intended them to be racisty.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  48. JD, you seem a little cranky. Has your blood sugar dropped too low? Do you need a leftover turkey sammich? Maybe you should ask that nice Dana to make you one.

    elissa (f12602)

  49. Like Kim Kardashian’s overdone and greasy kiester, I’ve had it up to here with turkey.

    Steve57 (c4b0b3)

  50. Say what you want about Ritchie Daley (I mean it, say what you want about him), he had a bellyful of the Clintons the second time around, too. He was not going to do for Hillary in 2008 what he did for Bill in 1992. (Not that he did the country any favors with the SCOAMF.) When you’re too dirty for the Daleys ….

    nk (dbc370)

  51. Elissa – ham, brie, bacon, dried mustard, and a fried egg on a baguette, please. Chop chop

    JD (86a5eb)

  52. Substitute speck for ham, and add Sriracha. Heaven

    JD (2064f9)

  53. I had to Google sriracha, but I agree. Peppery would go better than mustardy.

    nk (dbc370)

  54. One baloney on Wonderbread comin’ right up! 🙂

    elissa (f12602)

  55. I’ve been trying to stay clear of the nationwide Ferguson thing so as not to ruin my holiday, but this just sucks. The “protesters” are thankfully waaaay overplaying their hand. Hijack!

    At Seattle’s tree lighting ceremony children ages 7-10 were on stage singing carols when protesters rushed the stage chanting “Mike Brown, Mike Brown”, surrounding the kids and leaving them scared and in tears. The mayor who had previously endorsed the protests in his city and had even marched with some of them has now had to apologize profusely to the city for what happened..

    http://weaselzippers.us/206673-breaking-ferguson-protesters-interrupt-lighting-of-seattle-christmas-tree-make-children-cry/#disqus_thread

    elissa (f12602)

  56. Speck dipped in caramel is really good.

    JD (86a5eb)

  57. yes, I’ll take turkey but only when ‘needs must’ I prefer a roast pork loin,

    narciso (ee1f88)

  58. I grew up on it, JD. (Speck, not caramel.) This http://www.susanminor.org/users/Hab/Food_Files/Meat/Smoked_Pork_Belly/Smoke_Pork_BellyA.jpg is what you get when you scrape your hog and cut it up properly. It’s preserved by salting, smoking ans boiling, and then stored in its own lard. It can be eaten that way or it can be recooked in a lot of other ways.

    nk (dbc370)

  59. So, what do we do to prevent the shrill, stumbling geriatric from becoming the next President of these whole United States? Frankly, demographics make it assured.

    Ag80 (eb6ffa)

  60. Does she specify colors for the M&M’s, or JellyBelly’s?

    askeptic (efcf22)

  61. elissa (f12602) — 11/28/2014 @ 7:37 pm

    Just give ’em the bread (day-old is OK), he’s got enough baloney.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  62. these stories about Shrillery certainly make her sound Huma-n….

    😎

    redc1c4 (2b3c9e)

  63. There’s a retired Foreign Service officer who blogs under the name of “Diplomad 2.0” who has offered that his colleagues with many 3d world postings in their past understood the Whitewater scandal immediately (which the press never did) having observed its like before. The operative principle is as follows: the function of the 1st lady is to launder the bribes.

    Along with everything else you can say about them, this pair are incredibly crass. It will be interesting to see if the Obamas outdo them after 2016.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  64. Oh you can take that the bank, re the Chicago grifters, look how they behave now:

    http://gotnews.com/breaking-cops-nyt-reporter-published-darrenwilson-address-calling-cops-nonstop/

    karma is a certain type of animal

    narciso (ee1f88)

  65. 66- Bad link.

    askeptic (efcf22)

  66. well you get the gist, meanwhile, we see Derna is become the third Caliphate, Volodya is still on the march, Northern Nigeria is a warzone, the American embassy in Yemen, was bombed again

    narciso (ee1f88)

  67. american journalists are such skanky ludicrous whoretrash I don’t even know what to tell you

    it’s becoming a real problem

    happyfeet (831175)

  68. Somehow I think the Seinfield candidacy, about nothing whatever, will warm beyond tapwater.

    No wonder the elites are behind Romany and Boosh.

    DNF (3b2963)

  69. karma is a certain type of animal

    She was asking for it. So was her co-author (who may be getting it as well but not calling the cops). Also deserving are the layers and layers of editors who failed to excise that address. The legal profession has so insulated (and unjustly insulated) the press corps from consequences for bad behavior that this sort of self-help is not nearly as deplorable as it would be if deployed against someone in a decent occupation.

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  70. Stab me with a dull knife.

    Gunshot wound to the mouth.

    http://memegenerator.net/instance/47972753

    Art Deco (ee8de5)

  71. “Hillary Clinton says she doesn’t want the little people to make her wait… F*ck all the little people… and F*ck Hillary Clinton.”

    – Dead Lou Reed

    Colonel Haiku (3bf827)

  72. The Republican battle plan is to play dead ’til Nov. 2016 and add the titular head of 1/3 of government to its rump branch.

    Winning!

    DNF (3b2963)

  73. “Bad link… That’s whatcha got, that’s whatcha got…”

    – Dead Teddy Pendergrass

    Colonel Haiku (3bf827)

  74. 77-
    The progblicans are a death wish to liberty.

    mg (31009b)

  75. 71, 72. Not finding anything on the Sinai.

    DNF (3b2963)

  76. she could have won the nomination last time, would she have then gone on to win the election, the perfect storm of 2008, including the black swan of the Lehman crash is magic eight ball,

    narciso (ee1f88) — 11/28/2014 @ 4:33 pm

    I believe she actually did win the nomination last time.

    Gerald A (d65c67)

  77. “I believe she actually did win the nomination last time.”

    That was just for practice. They got better at it in 2012.

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  78. Ponder consumer deleveraging with lower gas prices.

    “Deflation is not about lower prices, it’s about lower spending.”

    DNF (3b2963)

  79. 28. elissa (f12602) — 11/28/2014 @ 4:48 pm

    I still don’t get the point of her wanting her medal presented in a box rather than around her neck. Would that make it easier to auction off later or something?

    Maybe it would make her look too feminine, or frivolous.

    She doesn’t go in for jewelry. Maybe occasionally, for a picture.

    Or maybe, if the medal said UCLA on it, a picture would make it look like she was picking favorites from colleges. And perhaps also one day there’d be a scandal involving UCLA, and there’s that picture, and it would be splashed all over the Internet. So don’t take any pictures associating her with any college.

    Sammy Finkelman (2d4607)

  80. it’s true from a ‘certain point of view’

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2014/12/you-know-americans-have-come-so-far.html

    narciso (ee1f88)


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