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9/19/2020

Weekend Open Thread

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:40 am



[guest post by Dana]

Here are a few news items to talk about. Feel free to share anything that you think might interest readers. Please make sure to include links.

First news item

“PresidentTrump’s nominee will receive a vote on the floor…”.

Related:

Second news item

Then:

“There is certainly long historical precedent for a Supreme Court with fewer justices. I would note, just recently, that Justice Breyer observed that the vacancy is not impacting the ability of the court to do its job. That’s a debate that we are going to have.”

“I think for those of us who care passionately about the Constitution and Bill of Rights, who care about free speech and religious liberty and the Second Amendment, the best way to protect those rights is to win on Election Day so that we see strong conservatives nominated to the court, and maintain a Republican majority in the Senate to confirm those strong conservatives.

and now:

[Ted Cruz told Sean Hannity] that Trump should nominate a successor to the Supreme Court next week and the Senate should confirm it before election day, citing concerns about Democrats contesting presidential election results if Trump wins.

“A 4 – 4 court that is equally divided cannot decide anything and I think we risk a constitutional crisis if we do not have a nine justice Supreme Court, particularly when there is such a risk of contested litigation and a contested election.”

Third news item

(Before knowing RBG had passed) At rally last night, Trump campaigned for Ted Cruz for SCJ:

“I’m putting Ted Cruz as one of the people for the Supreme Court. And you know why I did it? Because I wanted to make sure that I had somebody on the list … We had about 45 unbelievable people… the smartest, the best, the absolute creme de la creme. The best minds in the country, conservative; they believe in the Constitution.”

“I have to have somebody that we’re going to make sure we get approved, and the only one I could think of was Ted because he’s going to get 50 Republican votes and he’ll get 50 Democrat votes,” Trump said. He went on to say: “We will defend the dignity of work and the sanctity of life. That’s why the Supreme Court is so important. The next President will get one, two, three, or four Supreme Court Justices…If you don’t get it right we will not have a country anymore.”

Fourth news item

More non-black goobers admit to passing themselves off as black:

An Indianapolis racial justice activist admitted to lying about being Black in a social media post Friday. Satchuel Cole wrote on Facebook, “I have taken up space as a Black person while knowing I am white. I have used Blackness when it was not mine to use. I have asked for support and energy as a Black person… I am sorry for the harm I have caused. I am sorry for the hurt and betrayal.” Cole worked with Indy10 Black Lives Matter and Indy SURJ and served as a Grand Marshal for the Indianapolis pride parade in 2020, according to the Indianapolis Star.

and

What I know is that I am Southern Italian/Sicilian. In trying to make sense of my experiences with race, I grossly misstepped. I went along with however people saw me. I over-identified with unreliable and unproven family history and latched onto anything I remembered growing up. All of those actions were deeply misguided and have caused an incredible amount of hurt for the Madison community, those I organize with, and everyone who has been exposed to this public reckoning. It was my choice and error to identify any differently.

What I know now is that perception is not reality. Race is not flat, it is a social construct rife with contradictions. Fighting racism never required dissociating myself from whiteness. In fact, it derailed the cause by centering my experience.

I would like to identify, apologize for, and correct each misstep and overeager identification, and begin providing redress

Fourth news item

Good news from the Middle East, good on Trump:

The Emiratis and Bahrainis became only the third and fourth Arab states ever to recognize the Jewish state. And more good news may be on the way: Oman issued a statement of support for the accords; there is talk of Sudan following suit and Morocco opening direct flights. And though Saudi Arabia may be the last Sunni-majority state to formally recognize Israel, it is now permitting Israeli aircraft to cross its airspace.

No less remarkably, when the Palestinian Authority petitioned the Arab League for a denunciation of the deal, the league voted it down.

Smug elitist hardest hit:

Or as JVW, with his classic witty precision, described Kerry:

The smug certainty which turns out to be 100% wrong, the peering down his nose past his reading glasses, the insouciant posture reclining back with this legs crossed, the location being – what else — a Brookings Institution event sponsored by Haim Saban’s Foundation with Jeffrey Goldberg as event moderator: it’s the complete vileness of the Democrat establishment in one short video. The only wrong note is that it took place in Washington DC, not in Aspen or, better yet, Davos. But still.

Fifth news item

U.S. Covid-19 deaths surpass 200,000:

In the predawn hours of March 30, Dr. Deborah Birx stepped in front of the camera on the White House lawn and made an alarming prediction about the coronavirus, which had, by then, killed fewer than 3,000 people in the United States.

“If we do things together, well, almost perfectly, we can get in the range of 100,000 to 200,000 fatalities,” Birx, coordinator of the White House coronavirus task force, told Savannah Guthrie of NBC News’ “Today” show.

“We don’t even want to see that,” she added, before Guthrie cut her off.

Yet here we are.

Sixth news item

Inspirational innovation:

A family in North Carolina created a pop-up store that sells children’s books featuring main characters who are Black to counter the lack of diversity in literature.

The idea was born in 2019 when 8-year-old Langston Miller…told his parents about his dream of becoming a writer. Already an avid storyteller who spends his days filling up journal after journal with short stories, Langston said his books would be about young Black boys just like himself.
“I want books to show us Black children the way we are — beautiful, handsome, intelligent, and smart,” he told CNN.

Inspired by Langston’s dream, his parents set off on a mission to see how many books they could find that feature characters who look like him and his 4-year-old brother…

“We spent more than two hours and ended up finding just five books that had the style and quality of the stories he wanted to write,” his father, Duane Miller, told CNN. “When we noticed there wasn’t space for him, we decided to make that space for him ourselves.”

Months later, Liberation Station was born in mid-2019. The independent bookstore sells books written for, by and about the African Diaspora and specializes in the pop-up market.

Have a good weekend.

–Dana

UPDATE BY PATTERICO: Susan Collins joins Murkowski in saying no vote for a Trump nominee unless he is re-elected.

That’s two of four.

UPDATE BY JVW: A tale of two WaPo headlines, or why so many of us think that the major newspapers genuinely do not care for conservatives. (h/t Powerline)
Supreme Court

235 Responses to “Weekend Open Thread”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (292df6)

  2. I’ve updated the post with Trump’s tweet this morning regarding the vacancy:

    We were put in this position of power and importance to make decisions for the people who so proudly elected us, the most important of which has long been considered to be the selection of United States Supreme Court Justices. We have this obligation, without delay!

    Dana (292df6)

  3. I’d better confess right now, before the whole thing spirals out of control: I am not black.

    nk (1d9030)

  4. we shut down the economy, and infected the most vulnerable, that’s quite a hat trick,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  5. Nice story about the North Carolina family venture. I wonder if it’s just a happy coincidence that the kid appears to have been named after Langston Hughes.

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  6. Looking forward to our media savvy Captain pulling a Queen Elizabeth II and limoing over to the SCOTUS to view the steps full of flowers, notes and candles, a la Diana, to tap into this celebrity cultured country we’ve created ifull view of the cameras.

    Expect the campaign to have a MAGA hatted child planted in the crowd, clutching a rose bouquet, to come up to The Donald, uttering the tearful line,’These are for you.”

    Watch for it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  7. everything stars here, like the nile in upper egypt

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW6dlndP91w

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  8. Months later, Liberation Station was born in mid-2019.

    Good on them and I wish them the best of luck.

    Inspired by Langston’s dream, his parents set off on a mission … “We spent more than two hours …”

    I think I would have left that last detail out of the story.

    frosty (f27e97)

  9. Andy Lancaster
    @andylancaster

    – Abolish Electoral College
    – Eliminate Filibuster
    – Pack Supreme Court
    – Riot

    All things Democrats have said they will do. Seems normal.
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    LoLNothingMatters
    @DastDn
    ·
    Abolition of the Senate has come up as well.
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    Belarus is Falling to Putin
    @RubricMarlin
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    Also, add new states.
    __ _

    Mark Capron
    @mark_capron
    ·
    Don’t stop there,
    Lower the voting age to 16 (so our high schools become campaign centers)
    Give citizenship to some 11 millions illegals already living in the US
    Take our guns
    Totally (finally) collapse the us economy with their Green New Deal (That’s what that’s actually about)
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    Regnat Populus
    @FattiMaschii
    ·
    so… tramslated – End The United States of America.

    _

    harkin (536957)

  10. Yet here we are.

    Here we are isn’t good but it’s better than the projections. The 100k was certainly an optimistic guess. Sadly, we didn’t all work together and some of our most venerable paid the price.

    frosty (f27e97)

  11. Here was my comment to Dana when I forwarded the Kerry tweet to her:

    The smug certainty which turns out to be 100% wrong, the peering down his nose past his reading glasses, the insouciant posture reclining back with this legs crossed, the location being – what else — a Brookings Institution event sponsored by Haim Saban’s Foundation with Jeffrey Goldberg as event moderator: it’s the complete vileness of the Democrat establishment in one short video. The only wrong note is that it took place in Washington DC, not in Aspen or, better yet, Davos. But still.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  12. @#8. Postscript… seems Kamala has already done a ‘Prince Charles’ and showed up at the flowery steps.

    Creepy. Memo to Vlad- time to bigfoot; release your bare-chested calendar for 2021.

    … and Putin smiled.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  13. JVW! Don’t you know who he is?

    nk (1d9030)

  14. Ive been trying to forget since 1987, damn neuralizer.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  15. There’s good deal about the Trump foreign policy with which I disagree, though I have to say that I think that has been one of his most successful areas over the past four years. What I am come to appreciate about it — and in stark contrast to John Kerry — is that the Trump State Department isn’t too interested in Conventional Washington Wisdom (TM). So where Conventional Washington Wisdom (TM) says that the U.S. embassy can’t be moved to Jerusalem, where it says that the Iran Deal is here to stay, where it says that we just need to swallow hard and accept that our NATO partners aren’t going to meet their military requirements, among other areas, I’m glad that the mindless groupthink is finally being challenged, and effectively so.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  16. @#8. Postscript… seems Kamala has already done a ‘Prince Charles’ and showed up at the flowery steps.

    Wasn’t she just out here in California? I could see her having her campaign plane fly all night to get her back to Washington so she could be the first politician to pay homage in person. That kind of thing strikes me as being very important to her.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  17. JVW! Don’t you know who he is?

    Twenty-five years ago when I was living in Boston and he was the junior senator, I saw him once near his home. I used to walk through his neighborhood to catch the MBTA train to and from my way to work. It was the typical senatorial nonsense, combined with a rich man’s puffery. He had gone to pick up coffee and a scone or something and was waving and saying hello to everyone while surrounded by aides and, I presume, bodyguards, and I noticed that he absolutely did not shake hands or make any physical contact with any of the riff-raff voters. It was interesting.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  18. Nice story about the North Carolina family venture. I wonder if it’s just a happy coincidence that the kid appears to have been named after Langston Hughes.

    No coincidence. Article says that he was indeed named after Langston Hughes and his brother was named after Ralph Waldo Emerson.

    Dana (292df6)

  19. At least one of those Cruz quotes is misleading. When Cruz said that we needed to work to win on election day it wasn’t because they chose not to confirm a conservative to replace Scalia, it was because until they won, they COULDN’T. Because they didn’t have the White House. Now that they do, that quote is out of context.

    As for 4-4, he was being a politician and playing down some consequences that he now plays up. He’s not alone. Four years ago the Democrats were all worried about 4-4, now they aren’t.

    “That statement is no longer operative” — R Nixon
    “The only permanent rule in Calvinball is that you can never play it the same way twice!” — Calvin

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  20. Cruz was just fine with a 4-4 Supreme Court for most of 2016 and a part of 2017.

    Paul Montagu (1fbb64)

  21. @2: Duty and honor and a fanatical devotion to the truth are Trump’s amongst Trump’s chief qualities.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  22. I’ve updated news item #4 (re the Middle East and John Kerry) with JVW’s witty and precise description of Kerry. Apologies for not including it in the original post.

    Dana (292df6)

  23. Confirmation will happen before 1/20/2021. My fellow party members are falling into line behind Trump.

    Paul Montagu (1fbb64)

  24. They won’t take out guns. That would be unconstitutional. Instead they will regulate guns for safety and require all new guns to meet those standards. They already do this in California and continually add to the needed safety features. A process set up by one Kamala Harris.

    Eventually they will — solely as a safety measure — require that everyone turn in their old, obsolete and unsafe guns in return for vouchers on new, safe replacements. Which will work much like Corbin Dallas’ cigarettes.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  25. Confirmation may happen before 11/02. In the misty past, confirmations happened within days, not months.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  26. BREAKING NEWS: CNN reports package containing ricin address to President Trump intercepted at WH. Concern that other parcels may be out there in the postal system.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  27. Well, Portland, what did you think would happen?

    https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/09/intruder-with-knife-boy-being-held-no-portland-police-response-for-1-hour-36-minutes.html

    Police conceded the delay was unacceptable. They repeated what they’ve said to address previous criticism for holding back or recent slow response times: Their ranks are strapped by record retirements, covering months of social justice protests and other constraints.

    beer ‘n pretzels (27da31)

  28. @26 That’s my bet. I think they start hearings now (well, at the earliest possible time after they have someone) and confirm after the election, especially if things look a little spongy in the votes department. However the situation is so unstable for a lot of key senators that I’m not sure that any given nominee is a guarantee.

    Nic (896fdf)

  29. @30 The opposite confirmation bias viewpoint of this would be that the people who already think the police are useless and don’t bother to care about people will now use this as an example of how the police are useless and don’t bother to care about people.

    (No, I don’t think the police are useless. I am illustrating a problem common to humanity.)

    Nic (896fdf)

  30. Two pro-life conservative arguments to vote for Biden:

    #1, and

    (cont’d below to evade multi-link moderation)

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  31. Two pro-life conservative arguments to vote for Biden (cont’d):

    #2

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  32. Staking out the extreme Trumpist position:

    The Senate should vote to confirm in advance of the pick. Otherwise they’re just RINOs.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  33. Now, lurker, try that on the 2nd amendment for those of us who don’t base our votes on abortion.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  34. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I am opposed to lifetime appointments to any branch of government but especially the judiciary.

    I understand the logic behind the idea of lifetime appointments–that they’re presumed to make judges impartial in rendering decisions, without fear of political consequences. But that’s illogical.

    Times change. People change. Culture changes. Lifetime appointments smack of royalty, which is what this system of government is supposed to be against.

    This is why I favor strict term limits. We already have that for the presidency–two terms, eight years. That was set by George Washington, by the way, who when the newly freed colonists wanted to anoint him king, stepped down. Franklin Roosevelt broke that standard by being elected to four terms. Hence the amendment limiting the presidency to two.

    Why not limit all of the other branches of government to two terms? Let’s say twelve years. For the legislature, that would mean six elections for a Representative and two elections for a Senator. For the judiciary, it would mean an appointment for twelve years, not a lifetime.

    I don’t get what the obsession over the Supreme Court is all about. When Benjamin Franklin was asked, “What kind of government did you give us?” He said, “A republic, if you can keep it.”

    It is up to us, in this democratic-republic to decide what matters. It is up to us to amend the Constitution. It is up to us to demand better leadership from our elected officials.

    As it stands now, I don’t give a damn who sits on the Supreme Court. And I don’t give a damn about who nominates who or whom.

    What concerns me is voting this entire administration out of office.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  35. @38 My concern about Supreme court term limits is that it would make them even more political. Right now people maybe kind of keep them in mind, but most of the time nobody really knows when a Supreme Court seat will open (the last election and this one have been unusual in that regard), so in most elections it isn’t a top priority. If we had them term limited, though, everyone would know when the next seat was coming open and it would be all politicization on the position all the time and I think that’s bad for what we want the Supreme Court to be.

    Nic (896fdf)

  36. Considering that the Supreme Court may be asked to opine in a case charging an ex-president with crimes committed suring his term, the most sensible appointment for the vacant chair would be the current attorney general.

    John B Boddie (699c63)

  37. 37.

    Now, lurker, try that on the 2nd amendment for those of us who don’t base our votes on abortion.
    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/19/2020 @ 11:56 am

    As a 40+ yr gun owner I should write that one myself, but I’m too lazy. What I will say is, if you’re smart enough, and I know you are, many of the arguments in the articles I linked cross over to gun rights as well.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  38. 40. That’s a joke, right?

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  39. 42. No, not a joke. It’s a direct way of getting some back-side coverage if he loses the election.

    John B Boddie (699c63)

  40. Who to give the ticket to, the guy or the car?

    The RCMP in Alberta have charged a 20-year-old British Columbia man with speeding while he was asleep at the wheel of a Tesla electric car.
    The RCMP received a call at about 4 p.m. on July 9 concerning a 2019 Tesla Model S speeding south on Highway 2 near Ponoka, about 100 kilometres south of Edmonton.
    Both front seats were fully reclined, and both the driver and passenger appeared to be sound asleep, police say.
    The car appeared to be driving on autopilot at more than 140 km/h, RCMP Sgt. Darrin Turnbull told CBC News on Thursday. The speed limit on that stretch of highway is 110 km/h.
    “Nobody was looking out the windshield to see where the car was going,” he said.

    Paul Montagu (1fbb64)

  41. sameera khan
    @SameeraKhan

    Unsurprisingly, American football is the most popular sport in the United States.

    Please help me understand why Americans are so proud of/mesmerized by a sport that no other country in the world gives a f**k about…
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    David Burge
    @iowahawkblog
    ·
    Countries that plant a flag on the Moon get to pick whatever sports they like
    __ _

    harkin (064346)

  42. If this doesn’t warm your heart, you don’t have one.

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  43. UPDATE BY PATTERICO: Susan Collins joins Murkowski in saying no vote for a Trump nominee unless he is re-elected.

    That’s two of four.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  44. Whine of the Rinos.

    When the pressure is on and the time comes to vote, no means yes, eh ladies.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  45. collins is suitably blanc mange, thanks for the stand up routine, lurker,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  46. With roe vs wade on line and most wealthy republican senators social moderates not fundamentalists it only takes 4 republican senators to say no. They remember dubya having to drive his girl friend to n.y. to get her an abortion.

    asset (214043)

  47. you care about the first amendment, the second, heck even the third might be up for grabs, considering victoria province in australia,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  48. Remember: Joe Manchin of West Virginia is a probable yes vote on the Supreme Court nominee.

    The Dana in Kentucky (9f30da)

  49. a belated insight,

    https://proteinwisdom.com/?p=58733

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  50. @47 Nice to have one’s thoughts so swiftly confirmed. Apparently I was predicting the very near future. 😛

    Up above when I was talking about Senators who could go either way in the election, Collins is one of those. If they vote before the election, however Collins votes, she loses. I don’t know if it’s consistency or blatant self-interest, but she can’t afford a Supreme Court vote before she’s voted on. (and if she loses, I don’t think that her vote can be predicted either way unless she flat out states it beforehand, until the actual vote. I’m not certain she’s been entirely honest about her personal viewpoint for her entire career.)

    Nic (896fdf)

  51. TheBlaze
    @theblaze

    BREAKING: Antifa mistakingly destroys the car of a man who came to support their protest against the Proud Boys in Philadelphia

    They smashed his windows, dented the body of the vehicle, and threw projectiles all while he was trying to drive away as his dog barked inside.

    https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1307400767834386432?s=20
    __ _

    They usually wait a bit longer to turn on their own.
    _

    harkin (536957)

  52. that escalated quickly,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  53. As far as Barrett goes, she has already been through hearings. Get the rinos in line with threats, Mitch and just call a floor vote.

    mg (8cbc69)

  54. that’s why they pay him the big bucks,

    https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2020/09/waiting-fill-ginsburgs-seat-trumps-key-victory/

    earlier he didn’t know about biden’s plagiarizing kinnocks lifr story,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  55. @39 Well, Nic, I just disagree. I’m opposed to lifetime appointments of any kind. I’m also opposed to lifetime tenure for professors, by the way.

    It smacks of royalty, this idea that anyone should be appointed for life at any position. Were it a private business, with a founder and owner, I’m not going to argue that he or she doesn’t have lifetime authority. But we’re not talking about private businesses here, we’re talking about public institutions.

    I do not think that anyone should be appointed for lifetime to a public institution.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  56. I’m getting impeachment trial deja vu as to which Senator would vote against Trump.
    I’m not going to hold my breath that four Republicans will pull the trigger and bail.

    Paul Montagu (1fbb64)

  57. Mr. Friedersdorf:

    The defenses of Mitch McConnell that I’m seeing are unpersuasive. Ask yourself: if Trump and Pence both died in a plane crash tomorrow and Nancy Pelosi were sworn in as president would McConnell still insist on a floor vote before Inauguration Day 2021? Of course not.

    Paul Montagu (1fbb64)

  58. David Gura:

    “He got hit on the knee with a canister of tear gas,” President Trump says, of @AliVelshi, who was actually hit by a rubber bullet. “Wasn’t it really a beautiful sight? It’s called law and order.”

    No, Donald, it wasn’t a “beautiful sight” and it wasn’t “law and order” because Velshi broke no laws. It was fascist, cheering that a law-abiding journalist was shot by law enforcement.

    Paul Montagu (1fbb64)

  59. @62: “Elections have consequences.” The defense is that McConnell is majority leader. No other defense is necessary.

    beer ‘n pretzels (2ee1bc)

  60. Hilarious how the democrats are threatening packing the court, as if they won’t do it if Trump doesn’t wait.
    Get the firehose ready for the commies in the street.

    mg (8cbc69)

  61. What about Barbra Lagoa, bolivar de gris?

    mg (8cbc69)

  62. Trump Rally in Fayetteville, NC. CSPAN.

    Everybody behind him is wearing a mask.

    He’s on a roll– great show.

    Something’s burning- oh; Biden’s toast.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  63. well she was recently nominated to the eleventh circuit, just last year,

    ah conor f, the most blanc mange pundit, having being sullivan’s understudy,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  64. #63 –

    It was fascist, cheering that a law-abiding journalist was shot by law enforcement.

    That’s what Trump fans love most about him.
    They’ll keep loving him even though he thought Covid might be a good thing because then he won’t have to shake hands with the “disgusting” people who worship him.

    Radegunda (e1ea47)

  65. Why would purportedly conservative #NeverTrumpers want to block any nomination President Trump makes to the Supreme Court, in the hopes that Joe Biden wins the election and gets to make the appointment? I understand that they hate Mr Trump, but he would make a fairly conservative appointment, while Mr Biden would appoint a very liberal jurist. Does the #NeverTrumpers’ hatred of Mr Trump really extend to wanting a liberal Supreme Court Justice as opposed to a conservative one, if it’s Mr Trump who appoints that Justice?

    The Dana in Kentucky (9f30da)

  66. Paul Montagu (1fbb64) — 9/19/2020 @ 4:00 pm

    It’ll take a lot more than a plane crash to arraign that fantasy. You might as well pretend aliens land on the south lawn and shoot them.

    frosty (f27e97)

  67. @62: “Elections have consequences.” The defense is that McConnell is majority leader. No other defense is necessary.

    What’s more apt, beer, is that nuking the filibuster has consequences. This is Harry Reid’s legacy. Not long after he pulled the trigger seven years ago, McConnell said to Reid, “You’ll regret this, and you may regret this a lot sooner than you think.” Reid and the whole Democrat Party have to be regretting this. They can try to blame-shift this onto McConnell, but this is Reid’s fault. Bad decisions have repercussions, and Reid mad a horrendously bad one.
    Another word about McConnell. Just like Cam Newton is the Elton John of football (I mean, just look at what he wears at post-game press conferences), McConnell is the Bill Belichick of the Senate. Outside his home state, most everybody hates him, and they hate him in part because he’s smarter than his opponents and he wins more.
    P.S. I’m probably thinking along those lines because my beloved Seahawks play the Patriots tomorrow, and nothing would please me more than to see Newton-Belichick ground into the fieldturf, but I’d be surprised if that happens.

    Paul Montagu (1fbb64)

  68. The Dana in Kentucky (9f30da) — 9/19/2020 @ 5:51 pm

    Does the #NeverTrumpers’ hatred of Mr Trump really extend to wanting a liberal Supreme Court Justice as opposed to a conservative one, if it’s Mr Trump who appoints that Justice?

    This is one of those rhetorical questions right? The better question is do they want conservative justices at all.

    frosty (f27e97)

  69. @72. Because he’s– well… he’s Trump. And they no longer call the shots in the GOP. Life sucks on the bottom of the deck for several decades–as ‘Rockefeller Republicans’ can tell you. But did they abandon their party and betray their “principles” because they were no long in control? Nope. These weenies have been been Bill Buckley’out the party control.

    It’s glorious.

    Really looking forward to the Lincoln Project-George Will-National-Review-Punditry-Rodents rationalizing voting for Biden over this one — but they’ll deny and lie, of course.

    Tonight at his NC rally he publicly committed to selecting a woman to fill Ginsburg’s seat and will announce her name by next week. A FUN rally BTW.

    He has had good luck at bad times all his life. ‘Trump Luck’ is in the air.

    Buy that lottery ticket.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  70. Why would purportedly conservative #NeverTrumpers want to block any nomination President Trump makes to the Supreme Court, in the hopes that Joe Biden wins the election and gets to make the appointment?

    I don’t think this #NeverTrumper does.

    Given that the court already has a conservative majority, trading any number of seats for another four years of Trump’s malfeasance, incompetence and corruption would be a bad deal.

    But I don’t think that’s the choice we face, in regard to Ginsburg’s seat.

    Dave (1bb933)

  71. It’ll take a lot more than a plane crash to arraign that fantasy.

    Mr. Friedersdorf was making a mental exercise, frosty, not a prediction.
    Just so there’s no misimpression, my opinion about Ginsburg’s replacement is the same as the one about McConnell shutting down Garland: It is what it is. McConnell has the power to do it.
    Also, what goes around comes around. If Biden wins and if there are 50 Democrat-aligned Senators in January 2021, we should expect a slew of ACLU-blessed judicial picks from Biden and there’s not a damn thing my party can do except b*tch about it.

    Paul Montagu (1fbb64)

  72. The expectation is ali velshi would get a clue, highly unlikely.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  73. Mr. Friedersdorf is wrong. That’s not how it works when the vote for president goes to the house.

    Should no presidential candidate receive an absolute majority, the House of Representatives determines who the next President will be. Each state may cast one vote and an absolute majority is needed to win.

    Election of the President and Vice President: Electoral College

    By my count and I may be wrong 26 of the states are majority Republican. With only one person from each state it appears to be impossible for Nancy Pelosi to get a majority vote to become president. It’s in the details.

    Tanny O'Haley (8a06bc)

  74. In his weekly column, Jonah Goldberg weighs in two topics recently discussed here: Princeton’s racism and Barr’s slavery idiocy.

    Of the Princeton story, he swoons:

    I love this so much I want to rent a limo I can’t afford, take it to the prom, and maybe get a tattoo celebrating my love.

    And on Barr:

    You’d think an administration that preaches “nationalism” and “America First” at every turn would want to promote real national unity and scientific consistency to its response. They chose to go through door number 2. Trump spent the summer tweeting “Liberate Michigan!” and similar nonsense. Just this week, he suggested that his performance should be judged by the death toll “if you take the blue states out.” I’m all in favor of beating up Cuomo and anybody else who mishandled the pandemic, but either the president is responsible for the national response or he’s not. He can’t cherry-pick successes and suggest “I did that” while cherry-picking failures and say “that was them.” I mean, he’s perfectly happy to include jobs created in blue states when the employment numbers come out.

    “America First! … Except for the most populated states that didn’t vote for me” is one funky kind of nationalism, if you ask me.

    Read the whole thing…

    Dave (1bb933)

  75. Of course you can its comparative analysis the states that lockdowned the most did worse than those which limited the damage.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  76. That’s not how it works when the vote for president goes to the house.

    As I understand it, Tanny, if Trump and Pence are simultaneously killed in that plane crash tomorrow, Pelosi is the next in line of succession, so she could be sworn in as president on Monday. Pelosi would then table any talk about replacing Ginsburg until the next president is inaugurated on January 20th. If no replacement is nominated, then there’s nothing McConnell can do but turtle about.
    The election doesn’t change. There will still be one on November 3rd, with Biden on the Democrat ballot and I-don’t-know-who on the Republican ballot. If neither Biden nor Other Republican get 270 electoral votes, then it goes to the House to pick the next president although, the way the polls are today, it’ll probably be Biden.

    Paul Montagu (1fbb64)

  77. Paul Montagu (1fbb64) — 9/19/2020 @ 6:16 pm

    what goes around comes around

    I can’t take this seriously. Many of the same people now whining about the “rules” and retribution were saying, during the impeachment, that there were no “rules” in the house and that it was just about the votes but then changed their tune when it went to the senate.

    It’s not about anything other than power.

    But nothings going around. There is no “rule” anywhere that the next POTUS and senate pick a SCOTUS replacement. The “rule” is the current POTUS and senate pick it. Even after the election the current POTUS still occupies the office until the transition. Trump isn’t time boxed by the election. If he looses he’s time boxed by the transition.

    But assuming there is some magic rule about an election year. When exactly does that start? 365 days from the election? 365 days from the transition? So, a POTUS just has 3 years when they can pick and the 4th year a seat just has to stay vacant?

    frosty (f27e97)

  78. If Biden wins and if there are 50 Democrat-aligned Senators in January 2021, we should expect a slew of ACLU-blessed judicial picks from Biden

    Yes, I agree this will happen ostensibly because of Garland and Ginsburg.

    The exact same would happen if McConnell played nice.

    It doesn’t matter. I don’t know why this is hard to understand.

    beer ‘n pretzels (bfc036)

  79. Thats largely right frosty. You keep looking for that pony montagu. Its not there.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  80. By my count and I may be wrong 26 of the states are majority Republican. With only one person from each state it appears to be impossible for Nancy Pelosi to get a majority vote to become president. It’s in the details.

    Yes, 26 states currently have Republican majority House delegations, but all 435 congress-critters are up for re-election, several delegations are almost tied, and 25 is a no-go. Traditionally, horse-trading has occurred when the election is thrown to the House. A single GOP rep in a closely divided delegation could deny Trump his state, and the presidency.

    That Is the scenario (i.e. in which neither Trump nor Biden gets an electoral college majority, or the votes of 26 states in the contingent election by Inauguration Day) in which the Speaker would become Acting President.

    Dave (1bb933)

  81. Many of the same people now whining about the “rules” and retribution were saying, during the impeachment, that there were no “rules” in the house and that it was just about the votes but then changed their tune when it went to the senate.

    I read that sentence three times and it still makes no sense to me. Explain?
    McConnell and 49 other Republicans have the power under the Constitution to confirm the president’s nominee, and it doesn’t matter when that nomination is made. My listing of McConnell’s and his colleagues’ hypocritical statements in 2016 was to point out how big and fat their hypocrisy was. There was no principle at stake.

    Paul Montagu (1fbb64)

  82. https://www.si.com/nba/cavaliers/nba-amico/tv-ratings-game-2-eastern-finals
    Next year when fans can show up and don’t, maybe the NBA will export to china.

    mg (8cbc69)

  83. Because the impeachment had no foundation, it was dutifully ignored.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  84. Does the #NeverTrumpers’ hatred of Mr Trump really extend to wanting a liberal Supreme Court Justice as opposed to a conservative one, if it’s Mr Trump who appoints that Justice?

    Say what? I would very much like Mr. President Donald Trump, who is the best head of state of according to Mr. Vladimir Putin, appoint Justice Ginsburg’s replacement while he still has a Senate majority. And then hit the road on January 20, 2021, for a best case scenario.

    What I will not do is play the Cell Block Boss game. Trump has to go even if he has not appointed Ginsburg’s replacement and Biden will. One Justice out of nine, replacing the most liberal Justice since William O. Douglas to boot, is not worth four more years of a corrupt criminal traitor in the White House.

    nk (1d9030)

  85. I was mistaken on an important point.

    If there is no President-elect on Inauguration Day, for whatever reason including death or failure to receive 26 states’ votes, the VP-elect becomes President.

    Only if there are neither a President-elect or VP-elect does the Speaker become Acting President.

    The If there is a contingent election, the VP-elect is chosen by vote of the senate; one senator, one vote.

    Sorry for the mistaken information.

    Dave (1bb933)

  86. replacing the most liberal Justice since William O. Douglas to boot

    Yeah! We’re not talking about Scalia here, comrades. Do you think that even Biden could find a Justice more liberal than the late Justice Ginsburg? I repeat, keeping Trump is just not worth it!

    nk (1d9030)

  87. Douglas admitted he believed in the constitution, that cant be said of ginsburg

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  88. Paul Montagu (1fbb64) — 9/19/2020 @ 7:10 pm

    I’ll try again. Many of the people whining about hypocrisy and lack of principles now were in favor of the hypocrisy and lack of principles when the house had impeachment and magically found it again when it went to the senate.

    Claiming that what goes around comes around doesn’t mean anything when it was coming around anyway.

    frosty (f27e97)

  89. Super easy barely an inconvenience.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  90. nk (1d9030) — 9/19/2020 @ 7:24 pm

    Did you mean to switch socks or are you quoting yourself?

    frosty (f27e97)

  91. Exactly vindman was another self entitled deep state fixture affiliated with the country team that enabled the privat bank heist.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  92. Another wild scenario:

    If nobody receives a majority of electoral votes, the House chooses a president from the *three* highest electoral vote totals.

    So a rogue elector could theoretically offer the country a compromise choice if the electoral college came out (say):

    Biden 269
    Trump 268
    Romney 1

    Of course, you can replace Romney with any other name you like in this fantasy…(Kanye?!)

    Dave (1bb933)

  93. Douglas admitted he believed in the constitution, that cant be said of ginsburg

    Yes, she did, but under an extreme view of Marbury v. Madison, and that only as it concerned the Free Exercise Clause, if you’re thinking of her dissent in the Hobby Lobby case. And you make my point, anyway, thank you.

    nk (1d9030)

  94. She preferred the south african constitution, that monstrosity thar enables the zimbabwezation 26 years later.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  95. nk (1d9030) — 9/19/2020 @ 7:24 pm

    Did you mean to switch socks or are you quoting yourself?

    frosty (f27e97) — 9/19/2020 @ 7:32 pm

    I’ll let that question keep you awake all night, frosty.

    nk (1d9030)

  96. UPDATE BY JVW: A tale of two WaPo headlines, or why so many of us think that the major newspapers genuinely do not care for conservatives. (h/t Powerline, click here to see the headlines.)

    JVW (ee64e4)

  97. Oh the house of cards guy, your fifteen minutes are up dude.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  98. They seem very stable, yikes.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  99. Wait, I thought “dismaying liberals” was the mission statement of Trump and his party.

    Dave (1bb933)

  100. There should be a limit to how much they pound their head.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  101. @80. Not quite: Biden committed months ago to select a black woman to the court.

    Pandering ain’t plagiarism.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  102. @106. You do realize the Republican Party doesn’t either- particularly the ardent ideologues.

    Glorious.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  103. The leadership is terminally blanc mange, the base are not.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  104. That’s why liked Scalia. He dismayed liberals.

    I don’t know that Justice Ginsburg was all that much of a pioneer in anything, but de mortuis nil nisi bonum.

    The tweet tantrums (tantrum tweets?) could as easily be Trump.

    nk (1d9030)

  105. Wait, I thought “dismaying liberals” was the mission statement of Trump and his party.

    I’m going to go out on a limb and imagine that Antonin Scalia didn’t have a particularly high opinion of Donald Trump, even though I’m sure he would appreciate Trump hooking his son up with a cabinet position.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  106. That’s why *we* liked Scalia.

    (That’s a correction, frosty.)

    nk (1d9030)

  107. I also don’t think it takes a whole hell of a lot to dismay liberals, especially in this day and age.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  108. Anything can set them off, they are like kamikazi scotsman

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  109. @78. Go ahead, Davey, stand on Fifth Avenue and pitch the idea of not voting for Trump to secure a sure conservative SCOTUS for a generation. You won’t get shot– but you will get run over by ideological Righties. 😉

    This guy has had good luck at bad times all his life. Trump will pitch a young woman that’ll make conservative ideologue dreams come true and it’ll be up to McConnell to get it done. Don’t bet against him.

    Trump Luck is in the air. Buy that lottery ticket.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  110. @114. Scalia was an outlier. Originalists are dinosaurs, nk. Fossils.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  111. @117. If you watched any MSNBC in the past 24 hours, it is now Frown-Tee-Vee. Every adjective is a descriptive downer with RBG’s passing. And the flower-candle-note-vigil thing on the SCOTUS steps is disgusting and symptomatic of the celebrity culture run amok. She was a frigging judge. A bureaucrat w/a lifetime gig. Did America weep when J.Edgar croaked? No. [Well, some dressmakers perhaps. ;-)] Scalia’s passing was unexpected; Ginsburg’s was clearly coming. Frankly, it was a bit arrogant of Ginsburg to hang on for so long w/that illness and then quill a death-bed decree of how she’d like her replacement to be selected. She should have retired w/dignity under Obama and let him fill the spot- -but no, the femmi-icon wanted to be replaced by the ‘first woman president.’ RBG was beginning to believe her own press clippings. She blew it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  112. She has a bio pic a cloying hagiography whats next a breakfast cereal.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  113. @122. If Hoover had died this week, you’d see a Fall collection of Dresses By Edgar on QVC by Halloween.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  114. At 125 hed be very surprised.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  115. @115. Sounds more akin to Biden; isn’t that a bit ‘Hunteresque?!’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  116. Dave,

    I’ve looked at the Constitution, article 2, the 12th, 20th, and 25th amendments and The Presidential Succession Act of 1947. It is my understanding that the US Constitution is superior to any laws Congress may make. This means that the 12th amendment states how Congress is required to elect the president. The House of representatives will vote for the president using one representative per state. In this case that does not give Nancy Pelosi a majority.

    Tanny O'Haley (8a06bc)

  117. DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/19/2020 @ 8:23 pm

    She blew it.

    More than that she’s the poster judge for SCOTUS as a political institution and term limits. Both things that in the long run will undermine SCOTUS and The Constitution she gave an oath to protect.

    frosty (f27e97)

  118. So, in the end, she dismayed the liberals, too? I can picture her and Scalia having a laugh over it.

    nk (1d9030)

  119. @119 You think there are that many ideological righties on 5th Avenue? The one in NY City? 😛

    Nic (896fdf)

  120. @130. Yes- you can see them at lunch — or after 5 for cocktails. Corporate CEOs are conservative by nature– and design.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  121. @127. It’s the ‘celebrity culture’ -seeded and cultivated by the Hollywood Ronnie and Nancy crowd that’s overgrown the land and no sustained by The Beast that needs fed 24/7 that’s increasingly disturbing. Candles, flowers, notes, vigils. It’s sick. SCOTUS ain’t Buckingham Palace and RGB, no Diana. It’s as if an entire population is seeking some site to emote– jut to emote- over anything.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  122. ^no = now

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  123. I also don’t think it takes a whole hell of a lot to dismay liberals, especially in this day and age.

    Heh.

    And it apparently only takes a four and a half year-old newspaper headline to dismay conservatives.

    Dave (1bb933)

  124. Supreme Court nominations bring forth despicable behavior from the left, and the more closely the Court gets to having enough Justices to overturn Roe v Wade, the more underhanded the left becomes. The Kavanaugh hearings were such a joke. We had the highest legislative body in the land poring over the nominee’s high school yearbook. Really?

    The left needed judicial diktat to make abortion legal nationwide, and now it must be preserved at all costs. Heaven forbid they should win anything through legislation.

    I expect something even more ridiculous than the Kavanaugh hearings, even though that seems impossible.

    norcal (a5428a)

  125. The House of representatives will vote for the president using one representative per state. In this case that does not give Nancy Pelosi a majority.

    No, of course not. You didn’t read my post carefully.

    The 20th Amendment says in part:

    [T]he Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

    And in 3 U.S. Code § 19(a)(1), Congress has done that:

    If, by reason of death, resignation, removal from office, inability, or failure to qualify, there is neither a President nor Vice President to discharge the powers and duties of the office of President, then the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, upon his resignation as Speaker and as Representative in Congress, act as President.

    Thus, if nobody gets 270 electoral votes or 26 states to be elected president, and nobody gets 270 electoral votes or 51 senators to be elected VP, Pelosi or whoever is Speaker will become Acting President on Inauguration Day.

    Dave (1bb933)

  126. Amendment 12 – Choosing the President, Vice-President

    The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;

    The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

    The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

    The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

    Tanny O'Haley (8a06bc)

  127. Thanks. The part you bolded is exactly what I said.

    Dave (1bb933)

  128. Trump Luck is in the air. Buy that lottery ticket.

    With so much luck in air, why take a risk on a lottery ticket when you can get a wager on a sure thing?

    Unless you’re a double-talking blowhard with no guts, like your idol Trump…

    Dave (1bb933)

  129. Dave,

    In the scenario described there is no chance that Pelosi would become president. When if my counting is correct 26 states are Republican and the House of Representatives can only have one vote per state it would be impossible for Nancy Pelosi to get 2/3 of the vote of the House of Representatives when there is only one vote counted for each state. This is the part that I believe is being glossed over.

    How can Nancy Pelosi get 2/3 of the vote of the house of representatives when only one vote per state is allowed and the majority of the states are Republican? Instead of 435 votes there are only 50 voting of which 26 are republican. Nancy Pelosi would have to get 34 of the 50 votes when 26 are republican. I don’t see that happening.

    I feel like I’m beating a dead horse. 50 votes are counted, 26 which are republican makes it impossible for Nancy Pelosi to get 34 votes. With the exception of Mitt Romney I don’t see any Republican voting for Nancy Pelosi. So even if she gets half the votes, 25 votes is not 34 which is what she would need to become president.

    Tanny O'Haley (8a06bc)

  130. Let me be super clear. My previous comment is regarding what the 12th amendment to the U.S. Constitution tells us what to do when no presidential candidate gets a majority of the electoral college vote.

    I apologize for beating this to death. It doesn’t feel as if the point I was making was being understood. Not all of the 435 members of the House of Representatives get to vote. One vote per state is allowed which would be 50 votes. If my counting is correct 26 of those votes would be Republican. To become president Nancy Pelosi would have to get 34 votes. I don’t see that happening when over half the votes are Republican.

    Have I made my point?

    Tanny O'Haley (8a06bc)

  131. Pelosi does not become (Acting) President by being elected. This is what you haven’t understood. She becomes Acting President if nobody else is elected.

    Only the top three electoral vote recipients are even eligible in the contingent election (that’s the election in the House where each state gets one vote). Unless a rogue elector votes for her, and she finishes third in electoral votes behind Biden and Trump, Pelosi cannot receive ANY state votes in the contingent election.

    Assuming no electoral college majority, it is not guaranteed that anybody will get the necessary 26 state votes in the House election-by-state. The GOP controls 26 states in the present congress, but it would be the new congress elected in November and seated in January that would be voting. And even supposing there are still 26 GOP-controlled delegations, a single GOP congressman or woman in a closely divided state could balk at voting for Trump and deny him 26 states.

    As I clarified, if nobody wins the House election, the VP-elect, if there is one, would act as president. To become Acting President, Pelosi would need both the presidential AND vice-presidential elections to be deadlocked, which is even less likely, but not impossible.

    Dave (1bb933)

  132. Dave makes the salient point in this discussion: the Speaker of the House (whoever it happens to be) can become the acting President if and only if neither a President or Vice-President has been elected, whether by the electoral college or the House of Representatives. Or if both should die by some unfortunate accident.

    That said, Pelosi wants to be President like Cruz wants to be a Supreme Court Justice.

    What is missing in this debate is that this will be an election like no other. The coronavirus pandemic has led many people to opt for mail-in ballots. It’s going to take time to count all of those, so the outcome will not be determined for weeks. There will be litigation like never seen before. Trump will not go gently into that good night, nor will Biden.

    Every representative in the House is up for re-election, including Pelosi. One-third of senators are up for re-election. (More Republicans than Democrats.) Thus, we have no way of knowing what the composition on the next Congress will be.

    Dave is correct that the next Congress will be voting on the confirmation of a Supreme Court Justice, unless Trump nominates someone next week and McConnell rams her or him through the Senate. But that would reek of hypocrisy and could well endanger several senators’ re-election.

    Here’s the thing. The DNC has been pushing for early, mail-in voting. The RNC has been pushing against it, except in certain states. This administration has been hindering the USPS from delivering ballots and therefore limiting vote counting. The outcome of the Presidential election will not be determined on Nov. 3rd. Nor will the composition of the next Congress.

    This is the problem with early, mail-in or absentee voting–something might have happened after you submitted your ballot that would cause you to change your vote, but now it’s too late. You can’t change your vote after it is submitted.

    So, this is going to be a highly contested, ultra-litigious election. And it is not going to be decided over who gets to nominate a justice.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  133. Have I made my point?
    Tanny O’Haley (8a06bc) — 9/20/2020 @ 1:09 am

    I am not to proud to confess that my mind, today, is not what it was as recently as last week! So I appreciate the “beating,” Tanny. And yes, your point has been made to my satisfaction.

    felipe (023cc9)

  134. “Too” not “to.” I can feel my mind going…

    felipe (023cc9)

  135. Nancy Pelosi would have to get 34 of the 50 votes when 26 are republican. I don’t see that happening.

    No! Two-thirds of the states are necessary for a quorum. That would be 34.

    A majority of all the states are all that are needed to choose a President. That would be 26.

    nk (1d9030)

  136. nk (1d9030) — 9/19/2020 @ 7:42 pm

    Heh! As Dana would say; “shrewd comment, nk.”

    felipe (023cc9)

  137. It’s as if an entire population is seeking some site to emote– jut to emote- over anything.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 9/19/2020 @ 9:53 pm

    …but will the RBG memorials be a superspreader event?

    urbanleftbehind (49f84d)

  138. I’m far from an optimistic person in general, but one foolish corner of my brain wonders whether the election from hell in the year of hell might turn out to be a Y2K-style no-show apocalypse.

    On the other hand, nobody was actively trying to make Y2K into a disaster, while Trump, his henchmen, his cultists, and his Russian benefactors are doing everything they think they can get away with to undermine the election.

    To summarize.

    Dave (1bb933)

  139. Strange new respect?

    Apparently RBG regularly got hammered before attending Obama’s SotU addresses…

    Dave (1bb933)

  140. If you were to ask a liberal which of the two Justices (Ginsberg or Scalia) was a stronger supporter of the Bill of Rights, they’d choose wrongly. If you asked them which was a stronger supporter of government officials, they would also guess wrongly.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  141. Apparently RBG regularly got hammered before attending Obama’s SotU addresses…

    I doubt she was alone.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  142. Lurker, I suggest you take a look at Harris’ record as California’s AG, and Biden’s own words on “putting Beto O’Rourke in charge” of his gun policies, before you so glibly assume that gun owners might favor Biden in any way, shape or form.

    Harris’s method is to gradually “obsolete” all existing weapons in favor of those on a government approved “safe weapons” list.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  143. Susan Collins has just committed political suicide.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  144. Wait, I thought “dismaying liberals” was the mission statement of Trump and his party.

    You sound dismayed.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  145. With roe vs wade on line

    I’ve heard other people say that, too. They’re all ignorant. Only Thomas and Alito seem willing to overturn Casey (Roe is no longer the controlling decision). Even if Kavanaugh and Gorsuch would, Roberts certainly would not.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  146. Here’s the thing. The DNC has been pushing for early, mail-in voting. The RNC has been pushing against it, except in certain states.

    Well, that may be the rhetoric, but the reality is something else. What the RNC is pushing against is states mailing ballots without a request, due to out-of-date addresses on voters leading to easy fraud.

    In my state (NM), the state supreme court prevented ballots from going out without a request. Trump’s campaign sent request forms to every registered Republican household in the state. It’s hard to say that they oppose something they’ve spent a lot of money to encourage.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  147. Thanks for adding the contrast to media reaction to Scalia’s and Ginsburg’s deaths.

    They still say they don’t cheer for either side, lol.
    _

    Btw – some are estimating the damages from the ‘peaceful riots’ have now passed $2 billion.

    But they got insurance.
    _

    harkin (2d3ca9)

  148. 154.

    Lurker, I suggest you take a look at Harris’ record as California’s AG, and Biden’s own words on “putting Beto O’Rourke in charge” of his gun policies, before you so glibly assume that gun owners might favor Biden in any way, shape or form.

    Kevin M (ab1c11) — 9/20/2020 @ 7:59 am

    I’m quite familiar with Harris’ record. I voted against her each time she was on a California ballot. But as I’ve previously paraphrased Popehat, I’m don’t want the clap, but I’ll take it over cancer.

    As for my “glibly assum[ing] that gun owners might favor Biden in any way, shape or form,” I assume nothing. I’m a gun owner, and in a binary choice against Trump I favor Biden in every way, shape and form. I realize that’s far from the majority gun owner view, but it’s not as rare or crazy as you seem to think. I refer you again to the pro-life Biden testimonials I linked earlier, much of the reasoning in which crosses over.

    One example: What people like Harris say, what they propose, and what they can feasibly legislate are three different things. I don’t dismiss the first for the second, or the second for the third, but the third is what I care about most. Beto can rave all he wants, but nobody’s coming for our guns. It’s politically infeasible. And the gun reforms that are popular are ones I’m good with. For example, though I’ve taken advantage of the so-called “gun show loophole” several times, that doesn’t mean closing it isn’t good policy, even if it costs me a few bucks.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  149. 39. More personal attacks, “Davey?” Gee, the whine dripping from the bottom of the deck is indeed, bitter. Seems difficult for you to grasp the concept of never betting against yourself when it’s a win-win either way. You just don’t get it — or won’t accept it: neutering the modern ideological conservative movement is the goal. You’ve been Bill Buckley’d, fella. Do that lunch w/George Will.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  150. ^139. PS- And yes, buy that lottery ticket.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  151. @157. These judges, once they get that lifetime appointment w/generous bennies, never fail to disappoint the ideologues who steer them into these gigs. Bureaucrats all.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  152. Apparently RBG regularly got hammered before attending Obama’s SotU addresses…

    We all knew that years ago when there were pictures of her nodding off as the President droned on.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  153. Anecdotal Election Observation Warning!

    Thupal or Rao pander perhaps not needed: I just went into a gas station convenience store sans mask and the cashier gave no flooks.

    urbanleftbehind (49f84d)

  154. Dave (1bb933) — 9/20/2020 @ 7:19 am

    On the other hand, nobody was actively trying to make Y2K into a disaster, while D’s, their henchmen (Antifa), their cultists (BLM), and their Chinese benefactors are doing everything they think they can get away with to undermine the election.

    FIFY

    frosty (f27e97)

  155. Rip winston groom

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  156. Biden makes long voyage from Wilmington to Philadelphia. Having trouble breathing as he goes on camera?!?!? Coughing… Jet lag?

    Says America should honor RGB’s death bead decree; lies about timing of McConnell’s statement.

    Squinty McIrishman outta swing by CVS for some cough syrup and Visine.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  157. O.M.G. – he’s using a teleprompter to script emotions.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  158. Plagiarist JoeyBee whines that Trump has turned selecting a SCOTUS justice into a ‘game’ then does exactly the same thing himself by blatantly pandering to black votersby committing again to limiting his choice only to selecting a black woman to SCOTUS. But won’t release any list.

    No questions.

    Hobbles away.

    The Wench Brigade at a Mummers parade has more life to it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  159. I think I’m on a roll when it comes to drafting constitutional amendments to save America.

    How’s this for a grand compromise:

    During the first trimester, the right of a woman to terminate her pregnancy shall not be infringed.

    Legislation concerning abortion in the second trimester is exclusively reserved to the states. Final jurisdiction in all cases arising from such legislation will be exercised by the courts of each state, as prescribed by the laws and constitution thereof.

    Notwithstanding anything else in this constitution, abortion in the third trimester, except as a life-saving emergency procedure, is prohibited. Congress shall have the power to enforce this provision with legislation.

    Of course, it won’t satisfy 100%ers, and since it represents a retreat from Roe and Casey, the greater permanence of an Amendment would be the only reason for pro-abortion folks to acquiesce to it.

    Dave (1bb933)

  160. Of course, it won’t satisfy 100%ers, and since it represents a retreat from Roe and Casey, the greater permanence of an Amendment would be the only reason for pro-abortion folks to acquiesce to it.

    Your Amendment is certainly better reasoned and more clearly articulated than the status quo.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  161. Dave, I’ve suggested the following before:

    Amendment:

    1. The right of an adult woman to an abortion during the first trimester of pregnancy shall not be abridged.
    2. No public funds may be used to provide an abortion.
    3. Further regulation of abortion is devolved to the several States.

    As long as we pretend that this IS a constitutional right, we should write it down.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  162. As far as public funds for providing for an abortion are concerned, I suggest that PP or similar charities are adequate to cover that need. If not, why not?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  163. I’ve always held that, if we really want to see less abortions happening, rather than attempt to outlaw it entirely, do it incremetally. Most Americans are not really pumped on it beyond the first trimester, so why not appeal to that consensus, and make any restrictions more palatable to the pro-abort side? (Of course, they are now the all-or-nothing group…) With that, Dave, I agree with JVW.

    Dana (292df6)

  164. I don’t think you need to have a rule allowing emergency life-saving procedures. Is there a law specifically allowing killing one half of a Siamese pair during corrective surgery? Or is it just accepted as justifiable homicide?

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  165. These judges, once they get that lifetime appointment w/generous bennies, never fail to disappoint the ideologues who steer them into these gigs.

    Since Nixon took office, the GOP has appointed all but four of confirmed justices. Fifteen GOP appointments by my count. And yet, those 4 (the current 3 plus Ginsberg) have been a ROCK for the Democrats, while GOP appointees formed the MAJORITY in Roe.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  166. The Court that considered Casey, 1992, had 8 Republican-appointed justices and one aging Democrat (White, who dissented). All votes for Casey came from GOP-appointed justices (the court was 8-1 GOP at the time).

    This was indeed disappointing to the anti-abortion side and utterly forgotten by the abortion side, who continue o claim that 1 more GOP justice will return women to coathangers in back alleys.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  167. By the way, I disagree with those who would put term limits on the justices, or any lower courts. We already have two branches that pander to the mob. We need one that is more concerned about where we come from.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  168. I’m pro-choice.

    However, I’m also an originalist regarding the Constitution, in that I believe all statements in the constitution must be interpreted based on the original understanding of the authors or the people at the time it was ratified. Abortion was not on the minds of the Founders. Besides, the Founders created methods for dealing with situations not covered by the Constitution. They are called “legislation” and “amendments”.

    Thus, I’m all for Roe or Casey being overturned. Let the states hash it out. I would support pro-choice legislation at the state level.

    Come at me.

    norcal (a5428a)

  169. Ron Charles [Washington Post]
    @RonCharles

    Amy Coney Barrett, the judge at the top of Trump’s list to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg, has said we should always remember that a “legal career is but a means to an end … and that end is building the Kingdom of God.”
    __ _

    tsar becket adams
    @BecketAdams
    ·
    journos reporting on christianity like it’s some previously undiscovered tribe of pygmies is still one of my favorite news media subgenres.
    __ _

    Mitch
    @mitdont
    ·
    Seems she is part of some weird cult called the
    *checks notes*
    Cat-aholic church, whatever that is.
    __ _

    Haiku Jonah
    @HaikuJonah
    ·
    I hear they eat their god’s flesh and drink his blood every weekend.
    __ _

    Codename Dutchess
    @Jimmy_Stick
    ·
    A lot of people in that thread don’t understand what that quote means either and it’s frightening.
    __ _

    bart brown
    @motleyfool3
    ·
    Righteousness peace and joy is how Jesus defines the kingdom of God… pretty brutal stuff she’s espousing there eh??
    __ _

    Mi Mi
    @MillyRassy
    ·
    Wait till these idiots find out Biden is Catholic too.
    _

    harkin (b4e26d)

  170. Biden in speech today claims ‘200 million’ people have died from the virus.

    https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1307804630680731648?s=20
    _

    harkin (090d8b)

  171. @180. You see him having trouble catching his breath and coughing as the camera went live in Philly? BTW- the distance between Philadelphia, PA and Wilmington, DE is less than 30 miles.

    And he still looked tired.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  172. ^190.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  173. From the link in 189:
    There’s a deal to be had if four senators from each party agree — allowing the next president to pick RBG’s replacement in exchange for not expanding the court.

    How about this: There’s a deal to be had — allowing Trump to pick the next 3 justices in exchange for not nuking San Francisco.

    Fundamentally the same thing.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  174. Biden in speech today claims ‘200 million’ people have died from the virus.

    “Bats are people too”

    –Bruce Wayne

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  175. @183. Dems aren’t really deep rooted ideologues like conservatives. The real battle on the court rests w/t living constitutionalists vs. the originalists and the fight over the Sacred Scrolls. Planet of the Apes: some are a Taylor- others a Zaus w/a Zira and Cornelius in the mix for drama.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  176. There’s a deal to be had if four senators from each party agree — allowing the next president to pick RBG’s replacement in exchange for not expanding the court.

    They make extortion sound so reasonable. Let them go ahead and try to expand the court. In fact, Trump should make this threat a center of his campaign messaging, along the lines of “They say I say crazy stuff, but just watch:”

    How is this fundamentally different than “Give us $50 million and a plane, and we won’t shoot any more hostages”?

    TAR them with this threat.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  177. The real battle on the court rests w/t living constitutionalists vs. the originalists

    Well, if they try to add seats to the court ANY “living constitutionalist” would say that you can’t do that; 150 years of something establishes a rule.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  178. Arnie Seipel, NPR
    @NPRnie
    ·
    FACT CHECK: Biden said there’s no Supreme Court term until after election. That’s false. First arguments of the new term, as ever, begin the first Monday in October.

    Biden also said Trump campaign only started asking for his SCOTUS list after Ginsburg’s death. Not true either.
    __ _

    Sir Paul “TᕼE ᗷOOK GᑌY” Alves
    @PaulTheBookGuy
    ·
    I haven’t seen an honest tweet out of NPR for a long time now. Arnie, you’re gonna be in trouble on Monday!

    __ _

    harkin (090d8b)

  179. @195: They’re sounding more like Coriolanus than Cornelius.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  180. @197. Not really; rules, morals etc., they’re all a transient. Unless they still hang horse thieves, have separate water fountains and ban miniskirts in your neck of the woods. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  181. Stare decisis holds until it CAN’T, not until we wake up cranky.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  182. And I think hanging murderers and child rapists is just fine.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  183. More like menelaus if you know the play.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  184. They think they are Leonidas. In reality they are the Persians.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  185. Belated R.I.P.: Diana Rigg. 82.

    9/10/2020

    Mrs. Peel was needed.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  186. @202. And miniskirts? 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  187. There is certainly long historical precedent for a Supreme Court with fewer justices. I would note, just recently, that Justice Breyer observed that the vacancy is not impacting the ability of the court to do its job.

    Of course not. Every justice works on every case. The only thing handled by an individual justice is emergency appeals. ad then there’s opinion writing. But one missing justice only adds a little more than 10% to the workload of the remaining justices.

    the Palestinian Authority petitioned the Arab League for a denunciation of the deal, the league voted it down.

    That’s not good enough yet. The Arab League has to say the PA should declare it doesn’t want to be an enemy of Israel and give the PA a free hand to agree to anything. That;s probably not enough. They should expel any member who votes against it, say that any injuries would still not cause them to want to be an enemy and praise Israel for keeping agreements that might be considered against its own interests, particularly about the Temple Mount. Then they would be serious about settling things.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd)

  188. Mitch McConnell needs 50 votes (plus Pence)

    He starts with 53.

    Minus Lisa Murkowski, that’s 52.

    Minus Susan Collins, who is for starting the process now (if after all Trump were re-elected this would give him a head start and what;s wrong with that and isn’t it better to limit the length of the vacancy?) but not confirming unless Trump has been re-elected.

    That’s 51. Or 52 for taking it through the committee part.

    The Senate election in Arizona is a special election and if Martha McSally loses (as seems likely right now) ex-astronaut Mark Kelly could be seated by November 30. Not January 3rd.

    If Trump loses or the election remains in doubt, that’s 50 votes to confirm in mid to late November.

    And then there’s Mitt Romney.

    If Trump’s nominee gets confirmed in the lame duck session in November and Biden wins and the Dems control the Senate I’d expect the Dems to add two new Justices – only two in part in exchange for McConnell letting a bill adding two justices pass and not making it a hill to die on for the filibuster rule.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd)

  189. harkin (090d8b) — 9/20/2020 @ 4:07 pm

    Biden in speech today claims ‘200 million’ people have died from the virus.

    This is at least the third time he’s made this mistake: Substituting million for thousand

    I get in Washington you get to think in big numbers.
    _

    Sammy Finkelman (7c54bd)

  190. https://allamericanreviews.com
    America First – give it a chance

    mg (8cbc69)

  191. I like local control and limited federal power.

    This seems like a huge violation of that. Additionally, it’s easy for me to see how this rule, if it’s upheld, could be used to allow the executive branch to enforce all sort of liberal hobby horses. It wouldn’t take much re-wording to see how this could apply to gun control or ammunition sales.

    Time123 (dba73f)

  192. Defund Trump!

    nk (1d9030)


  193. Tom Elliott
    @tomselliott
    ·
    @RadioFreeTom accuses the GOP of judicial activism for seeking to fill vacant SCOTUS seat: “Senators said over & over again, constitutionally we’re allowed to do this. That’s right. But the fact of the matter is our system operates much more on norms” than “written law.”
    __ _

    Stephen L. Miller
    @redsteeze
    ·
    Norms expert guy is supporting the party threatening to pack the courts, do away with Senate filibuster, abolish the electoral college, increase number of states, abolish the Senate and all while criticizing the party following the Constitution.

    _

    Only ___ days until you can put these people in charge of the executive branch!
    _

    harkin (20eb26)

  194. Is there a prerequisite for insanity at the naval war college, see tommy lee jonesin under siege.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  195. Yes mayor bane has made that crystal clear.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  196. harkin (20eb26) — 9/21/2020 @ 7:15 am

    That’s a good summary of the situation. It seems like this much gaslighting would have a permanent effect on global warming.

    frosty (f27e97)

  197. John schindler his colleague went rabid sone years ago.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  198. This maneuver by AG Barr smells illegal. Unless Congress somehow conditioned federal money based on a city’s lack of “anarchism”, I don’t see how Barr’s act holds legal water. It reminds me of previous failed attempts to withhold dollars from so-called sanctuary cities.

    Paul Montagu (e630cd)

  199. @211

    I like local control and limited federal power.

    This seems like a huge violation of that. Additionally, it’s easy for me to see how this rule, if it’s upheld, could be used to allow the executive branch to enforce all sort of liberal hobby horses. It wouldn’t take much re-wording to see how this could apply to gun control or ammunition sales.

    Time123 (dba73f) — 9/21/2020 @ 7:06 am

    I get your sentiments… I truly do. But, looks like DOJ is on solid grounds here:
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-identifies-new-york-city-portland-and-seattle-jurisdictions-permitting

    whembly (c30c83)

  200. when you defund the police, even by 10%, that’s a predicate to such a designation,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  201. Classic. streiff was doxxed by the Daily Beast and, irony of ironies, he’s a Trump Shallow State PR embed at NAIAD, a federal agency under Dr. Fauci, the same Dr. Fauci he trashed at RedState under his pseudonym. Couldn’t have happened to a bigger a$$hole.

    Paul Montagu (e630cd)

  202. “when you defund the police, even by 10%, that’s a predicate to such a designation,”

    Party of fiscal responsibility.

    Davethulhu (c5e21e)

  203. Party of fiscal responsibility.

    It could save the federal government billions, so yeah, good point.

    beer ‘n pretzels (a6fbf9)

  204. “It could save the federal government billions, so yeah, good point.”

    You and I both know that this is entirely performative.

    Davethulhu (c5e21e)

  205. “Couldn’t have happened to a bigger a$$hole.”

    Wanna bet he did Redstate work on federal computers during office hours?

    Davethulhu (c5e21e)

  206. You and I both know that this is entirely performative.

    Saving the “performative” label for this is itself performative.

    beer ‘n pretzels (9915a8)

  207. “Saving the “performative” label for this is itself performative.”

    How many billions do you think are going to be withheld? Ballpark figures are fine.

    Davethulhu (c5e21e)

  208. How many billions do you think are going to be withheld? Ballpark figures are fine.

    $10 billion.

    When do you think racism will go away as a result of rioting, looting and defunding the police? I’ll take ballpark as well.

    beer ‘n pretzels (cfe23d)

  209. “When do you think racism will go away as a result of rioting, looting and defunding the police? I’ll take ballpark as well.”

    Seeing as this isn’t a claim I have made, I’m not sure why you expect a response.

    Davethulhu (c5e21e)

  210. Its one thing having to deal with the idiocy of the fruits and nuts of cantafordya constantly blowing smoke, but when your forest fire smoke reaches Cape Cod you people have gone to far.

    mg (8cbc69)

  211. Andrew Breitbart would have been a great press secretary for president Trump.

    mg (8cbc69)

  212. After hearing hiden biden attempt to say the pledge of allegiance a Cuban missile crisis fallout shelter is calling.
    Hello Dr.Biden….

    mg (8cbc69)

  213. Whembly, the bolded items are clearly local control issues. The italicized is a bit less so, Probably depends on details. But I’m telling you. Biden / Harris can readily reapply the shooting information, and the changing information to push gun control.

    Shootings in New York City have been on the rise since looting and protests began on or about May 28, 2020. For July 2020, shootings increased from 88 to 244, an increase of 177% over July 2019. In August 2020, shootings increased from 91 to 242, a 166% increase over August 2019.
    While the city faced increased unrest, gun violence, and property damage, the New York City Council cut $1 billion from NYPD’s FY21 budget.
    The budget resulted in the cancellation of the new police recruiting class, cuts to overtime spending, and the transfer of certain police functions, including school safety, out of the NYPD.
    Meanwhile, the Manhattan and Brooklyn District Attorneys have declined to prosecute charges of disorderly conduct and unlawful assembly arising from the protests, and the District Attorneys in Queens and the Bronx have declined to prosecute other protest-related charges.
    Both Mayor de Blasio and Governor Cuomo have forcefully rejected federal law enforcement support.

    Time123 (457a1d)

  214. Another reason for reelection – give Justice Thomas a chance to retire.

    mg (8cbc69)


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