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8/25/2020

Angry Youth Unwittingly Campaign For Trump

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:50 pm



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n Adams Morgan, protesters screamed at Lauren B. Victor for several minutes for refusing to raise her fist with them.

“Are you a Christian?” a female protester demanded.

“Good for you — you stood your ground,” Chuck Modiano said sarcastically as the crowd moved on.

Modiano, who had been yelling at Victor and moments later identified himself as a citizen journalist who writes for @Deadspin, told Victor he couldn’t understand why she was the only diner in the area who wouldn’t comply. “What was in you, you couldn’t do this?”

“I felt I was under attack,” Victor, an urban planner, said, adding that she felt there was something wrong about being coerced to show support.

“In the moment, it didn’t feel right,” Victor said, adding that she also could understand their anger. “I wasn’t actually frightened. I didn’t think they’d do anything to me,” she said. “I’m very much with them. I’ve been marching with them for weeks and weeks and weeks.”

Given many comments regarding protesters’ races, it’s worth noting that a young Black woman leading the protest Monday asked White protesters to step forward, as seen here. This direction was given more than once.

Idiots. They haven’t got a clue that their outrageous bullying is not only devouring a righteous cause, but it is also providing Donald Trump with the visual he needs – especially during convention week – to convince average Americans why they need to re-elect the self-professed law and order president .

And yes, Ms. Victor was indeed under attack. She was being bullied and shamed and being strong-armed into submission. If that isn’t being under attack, I don’t know what is. No wonder it didn’t feel right. Everyone should be allowed to think about an issue, work through it, let it marinate, and draw their own conclusions in their own time and on their own terms. Further, only that individual should make the decision about whether to even make their views known to others.

Here’s my unpopular take: I don’t care who you are, and what your cause is: Do not approach me during a pandemic when I am masked-up, minding my own business, and having drinks and/or waiting for a meal while supporting a local establishment with my hard-earned money. There is a righteous concern at the root of the protests, but these jokers are working to obliterate it with their strong-arm tactics. They are trying to *force* compliance from a fellow American and make that individual bend and conform to their will, right then and there. Obedience to the cause. Approved speech only. Submit now. Do it, or be labeled a heretic and known from this point on as a racist who clearly hates black people and thinks it’s dandy that another black man was killed by the cops. This is what constitutes reasoning these days. Both sides of the aisle play this twisted game with their pet causes as they furiously try to convince the masses that they have landed on the “right side of history.”

So, my reaction to the angry youth in the video or anyone trying to force me into submission: Me and my brown skin say fuck you to any kind of bullying. I’ll think what I want to think, I’ll believe what I want to believe, I’ll say what I want to say, and I’ll decide when and where I make my stands. All of this because God gave me a brain to think for myself, and I don’t need any mob telling me how to think and what to say. And don’t you dare try to force my hand in such an authoritarian manner. Seriously, just who do you think you are? Let me eat my damn waffle in peace. I owe you nothing.

For those who have falsely framed the scenario as: If the women in the video don’t pledge their allegiance to the cause when demanded, then they obviously don’t care that another black man was killed by law enforcement. To them I say: It is possible to hold two thoughts in one’s head at the same time, even two seemingly opposing thoughts. Adults do it all the time.

–Dana

80 Responses to “Angry Youth Unwittingly Campaign For Trump”

  1. Welp.

    Dana (292df6)

  2. Ms. Victor is a brave American, and BLM just took away an untold number of votes from Biden. Those kids who screamed at her, fasicsts all.

    Paul Montagu (a2078e)

  3. Their point is to destroy, they follow in the footsteps of ayers and rosenberg, the worse the better as lenin said.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  4. Ms. Victor refused to wear the ribbon!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ND33MQ_h1lk

    norcal (a5428a)

  5. I’ve said it before: Want to push white people out of their comfort zone? Mess with their bellies, the filling of. Upton Sinclair said it before me, though.

    nk (1d9030)

  6. “devouring a righteous cause”

    No, it is not at all righteous. It is the cause of Marxist revolution, not racial justice, and it caused more human suffering in the 20th century than all the ideologies in all the prior centuries combined.

    I don’t buy the “They mean well but are misguided” trope. They are bad, evil people. Who need to be condemned loudly.

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  7. Want to push white people out of their comfort zone? Mess with their bellies, the filling of.

    Yes, another leftist trope. White = evil (how that is not racist is beyond me), so we can laugh away fascist behavior with a racist joke against whitey.

    Screw you. In fact, the organizer of that march, a black woman, asked for all white people in her group to step forward and engage in that behavior. If you notice, there is not one black face there in the video.

    Sorry, the race card is growing old. The fact that a black guy was unjust killed in Minneapolis or Kenosha is not an excuse to engage in fascist behavior 100s of miles away.

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  8. Remember what we were all saying even before COVID: to win in November all the Democrats and the left have to do is avoid going absolutely batshit insane. They are instead choosing to go absolutely batshit insane. Unbelievable.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  9. @8 :)

    norcal (a5428a)

  10. @8 an @9

    One thing we should be thankful to Al Gore for is inventing the internet. If it were not for that, the MSM would bury this story. As I am sure they will try to do, but given how quickly something can spread on Twitter and Youtube (both of which have posted this video), it will make its impact.

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  11. Yes, another leftist trope. White = evil (how that is not racist is beyond me), so we can laugh away fascist behavior with a racist joke against whitey.

    Fat joke, sir. Fat joke. White = well fed.

    nk (1d9030)

  12. Idiots. They haven’t got a clue that their outrageous bullying is not only devouring a righteous cause, but it is also providing Donald Trump with the visual he needs – especially during convention week – to convince average Americans why they need to re-elect the self-professed law and order president .

    Yep.

    … and The Silent Majority smiled.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  13. @11

    Keep digging yourself into that hole. Maybe you’ll reach China.

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  14. I can’t recall who wrote this earlier on Twitter, so I won’t be able to give credit where credit is due, but two years ago we were all laughing at how mindless and ridiculous the students and faculty at Evergreen State College are, and now their ugly disposition and thuggish tactics permeate throughout the entire activist left. Remarkable.

    JVW (ee64e4)

  15. Good for Ms. Victor.

    I’m really uncomfortable with the purity culture stuff going on in some communities. It’s mostly happening with the under 30s ultrawoke, but it also happens in general pro-choice, pro-life and 2a circles and I’m hearing it A Lot in the “if you don’t agree with me you aren’t a real American” part of the conservative movement as well.

    Nic (896fdf)

  16. @14 Oh, God, Evergreen has always been nuts.

    Nic (896fdf)

  17. … and The Silent Majority smiled.

    Down into their graze. Hothouse flowers, what will you do when the orange rot brings your hothouse down?

    nk (1d9030)

  18. And what this tells me is that these folks view power as Mao did. coming from the barrel of a gun. God help us if they get control.

    “Diversity” — they keep using that word. I don’t think it means what they think it means,

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  19. The Red Brigades. You will be wearing a dunce cap and get beaten by the mob for your counterrevolutionary thought.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  20. A hive mind is very diverse, they have seized the schools the media large tracts of corporate america, you will obey or you will be deleted, assimilated is too much trouble.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  21. Keep digging yourself into that hole. Maybe you’ll reach China.

    There are a lot of things I could say to somebody who sees a video of three cops shoot an unarmed man seven times in the back from point blank range, and thinks that his video of a mob of people disturbing diners by asking them to denounce that kind of police behavior is like Brownshirts in the 1930s … but I think I just said it.

    nk (1d9030)

  22. As if destroying a city will make it better, maybe the places from they come is the problem, the universities are turning out mind arson, by the bushel.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  23. This is a few years old, but it fits:

    Fifty years on, one of Mao’s ‘little generals’ exposes horror of the Cultural Revolution

    Fifty years after the start of the Cultural Revolution, in May 1966, Yu, who is now 64, has been blogging her memories of the period in a bid to prevent history repeating itself.

    “If our descendants do not know the truth they will make the same mistakes again,” she wrote in the introduction to her series of online reflections. “I want to use real experiences to prove that the Cultural Revolution was inhumane.”

    Even half a century on, Yu, a retired journalist, says she is still trying to fathom the horrors she witnessed that summer and to understand how she was radicalised into becoming one of Mao’s “little generals”.

    “We became Red Guards [because] we all shared the belief that we would die to protect Chairman Mao,” she says over a cup of tea in a Beijing cafe. “Even though it might be dangerous, that was absolutely what we had to do. Everything I had been taught told me that Chairman Mao was closer to us than our mums and dads. Without Chairman Mao, we would have nothing.”

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  24. Seriously we are slalomming toward detroit bankrupcy at unheard of speeds. A great city like new york is practically dead, seattle that metropole on the pacific coast well its ao dead it doesnt even know. And the blob isnt going to end there.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  25. Yes, that is what will happen when Trump brings America to the same state the warlords and Japanese brought China.

    nk (1d9030)

  26. The more I think about it, the more annoyed I get because these yahoos are basically working hard to shut down speech (that they don’t like). Their ‘performative crap’ has nothing to do with BLM or cops shooting black men. By forcing someone to say X out loud is to try and compel approved speech. It’s about silencing free thought via the exploitation of a cause specifically concerning the African-American community This should anger everyone who cherishes the right to free speech.

    Dana (292df6)

  27. Speaking of Mao:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/biden-quotes-mao-zedong-during-explanation-of-why-he-chose-harris-as-his-running-mate

    He then reportedly quoted Mao, saying that “women hold up half the sky. One of Biden’s senior advisers, Anita Dunn, also said in 2009 that Mao was one of her “favorite political philosophers.”

    beer ‘n pretzels (6f7034)

  28. Dana, this is such a sad story. But when a person thinks that they are cosmically correct (to borrow from Thomas Sowell), then people who differ must be the opposite. If a person believes that they are good, then people who oppose them must be bad.

    And they deserve whatever they get.

    As long as “otherize” people with whom we disagree, this is the result. “You are with us, or against us” has transmuted to “Silence is violence.”

    I think that no matter who wins in November, we are all in for a very rough ride.

    Simon Jester (da4900)

  29. The point is the destruction that you have cheered when it comes to that church in dc, because they didnt finish the job, there is no structure no person no institutution that is safe.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  30. Simon one side has all the institutions, the other is just trying to keep up.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  31. They called it repressive tolerance our parting gift from the weimar republic.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  32. But when a person thinks that they are cosmically correct (to borrow from Thomas Sowell), then people who differ must be the opposite.

    This.

    The problem stems from too many people seeing the other side as not just wrong, but evil.

    norcal (a5428a)

  33. @32 “The problem stems from too many people seeing the other side as not just wrong, but evil.”

    Very much yes. Just because a person disagrees with you doesn’t mean they are a terrible person.

    Nic (896fdf)

  34. @28 Simon, I’m still trying to guess which one you were at Cathy Seipp’s blog, but you don’t comment enough for me to get a feel. Please comment more. :)

    norcal (a5428a)

  35. The more I think about it, the more annoyed I get because these yahoos are basically working hard to shut down speech (that they don’t like). Their ‘performative crap’ has nothing to do with BLM or cops shooting black men. By forcing someone to say X out loud is to try and compel approved speech. It’s about silencing free thought via the exploitation of a cause specifically concerning the African-American community This should anger everyone who cherishes the right to free speech.

    Dana (292df6) — 8/25/2020 @ 9:13 pm

    I’ve avoided the past 2 topics because they disturb me too much that I fear I’d say something very inappropriate, but the performance aspect is what interests me. So many of the young have been raised to be narcissistic that they really do think their opinions are all that matters and if you disagree with them you are attacking their identity.

    So in a different way, I had some fun with some of my younger employees today. I decided to do a small performance and change the way they thought about their night. I did a dramatic reading of Poe’s, The Raven. Good time. One of my employees wasn’t interested and zoned out while saying it was scary. Another actually enjoyed it and paid closer attention to the words and the change of tone and pace. I’ll chuckle when it gets back to me what they really thought. But it was a brief 5 minutes to break up the monotony of the day and try to get them to appreciate some classic works. Shortly thereafter I’m sure they were back to Instagram and Tik Tok.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  36. “Here’s my unpopular take”

    I agree with every word in your post except those. Your take is not unpopular. Those bullying a-holes are a minority of one party, much less of the population at large. Don’t get me wrong, they’re too large a minority of the Democratic Party, which is one of the reasons I’m not a Democrat. But they’re not the mainstream, even of that party. I’d bet my paycheck that if asked, Barack Obama , Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and the overwhelming majority of House and Senate Democrats would condemn that behavior.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  37. 37. Al Sharpton is on MSNBC now calling those people enemies of John Lewis and BLM. When Al Sharpton and the MSNBC crowd condemn you, you aren’t exactly a “popular” left wing faction.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  38. @35 That’s a rather amusing story about reading Poe, as a performance act, to youths. Poe himself did that, recite “The Raven” as a performance act, to scare young children.

    Did you know that his poetry can be set to music, jazz in particular? Yeah, when I was a little boy, my father had this album. It was of Poe, sung in jazz time. Remarkable, really, wish I still had a copy of it. There must be some audio tape, on cassette or CD, available somewhere, but I couldn’t find one on Amazon. Sad, because that recording was truly enjoyable. It was scary and fun.

    Edgar Allan Poe was the first true international poet. He was the first to publish, with much acclaim, in both Europe and the US. Much like Paul Morphy, who was the real first chess champion long before the title of “World Chess Champion” was ever even dreamt of–Morphy defeated grandmasters on both continents. He was the best, a true genius of his game. Poe was the same. I wouldn’t call him the first “American” poet–that title belongs to Walt Whitman–because Poe basically imported European verse and rhyme structures to America, but he was a master at it.

    Whitman, on the other hand, invented an entirely new form of poetry. He was able to do that, because he had his own printing press. He was the author, editor and publisher of all his works. Poe, who in my opinion was a greater genius, did not have that advantage. Neither did Dickenson, who I think is the first, real American poet. Be that as it may, Whitman reigns supreme. He was a great poet, of that there is no doubt. And his excursions did pave the way for later great poets, like Sandberg, Frost and Cummings, among others. There has been no real, true poetry written in America since.

    Dickenson has been lost in time. So has Poe. Even though they were the best of the best. Go figure.

    Gawain's Ghost (b25cd1)

  39. Many years ago (20-25?) a client of mine co-wrote a fun one man play about Poe, Once Upon a Midnight, starring Gomez Addams (i.e., John Astin).

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  40. What a pack of friggen a-holes.

    Time123 (cd2ff4)

  41. the enemy is not just over there, but they are just as assuredly over here, when a terrorist group, call them the h rap brown brigade, is attacking police and storefronts, and defacing monuments that’s what they are, and they aren’t treated as such, and the person who has set the strategy is a real life terrorist, but she has resources bin laden couldnt dream up, through her extortion scheme, fronted by the media,

    the people who were a party to the jizda which is the iran deal, they are also traitors and enablers, those of both parties, who watched as suleimani, murdered and maimed americans and others across the region, are in the same boat,

    bolivar de gris (7404b5)

  42. @36 and @37

    Count me unimpressed. The Dems are trying to play a double game, coddling and even abetting rioters, but at the same time trying to appear moderate to the American middle. Any “condemnation” is likely to be followed by some mealy-mouthed appeasement.

    This already happened in a slightly different context. Anti-semite Jew-hater Linda Sarsour got to speak at the DNC convention. Then Joe Biden condemned her. Then the head of his campaign apologized for his comments.

    That kind of condemnation is nothing more than weak posturing trying to have it both ways.

    As for Al Sharpton, while I despise him, he is certainly not stupid. He gets that a video like this is highly damaging to his side. Given his history of race- and Jew- baiting, his sincerity is very much in doubt.

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  43. So stop making excuses for these rioters, who are the counterparts of thr so called tesistance in the government

    https://mobile.twitter.com/VickiMcKenna/status/1298628791376412676

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  44. @35 That’s a rather amusing story about reading Poe, as a performance act, to youths. Poe himself did that, recite “The Raven” as a performance act, to scare young children.

    Did you know that his poetry can be set to music, jazz in particular? Yeah, when I was a little boy, my father had this album. It was of Poe, sung in jazz time. Remarkable, really, wish I still had a copy of it. There must be some audio tape, on cassette or CD, available somewhere, but I couldn’t find one on Amazon. Sad, because that recording was truly enjoyable. It was scary and fun.

    Edgar Allan Poe was the first true international poet. He was the first to publish, with much acclaim, in both Europe and the US. Much like Paul Morphy, who was the real first chess champion long before the title of “World Chess Champion” was ever even dreamt of–Morphy defeated grandmasters on both continents. He was the best, a true genius of his game. Poe was the same. I wouldn’t call him the first “American” poet–that title belongs to Walt Whitman–because Poe basically imported European verse and rhyme structures to America, but he was a master at it.

    Whitman, on the other hand, invented an entirely new form of poetry. He was able to do that, because he had his own printing press. He was the author, editor and publisher of all his works. Poe, who in my opinion was a greater genius, did not have that advantage. Neither did Dickenson, who I think is the first, real American poet. Be that as it may, Whitman reigns supreme. He was a great poet, of that there is no doubt. And his excursions did pave the way for later great poets, like Sandberg, Frost and Cummings, among others. There has been no real, true poetry written in America since.

    Dickenson has been lost in time. So has Poe. Even though they were the best of the best. Go figure.

    Gawain’s Ghost (b25cd1) — 8/26/2020 @ 4:39 am

    Thank you for that. We are on the verge of losing some great classics to the dustbin of history because they aren’t being taught in schools anymore.

    I preferred Poe and Dickenson to Whitman.

    NJRob (eb56c3)

  45. What is worse is that this younger generation of idiots will soon run our country, whether we like it or not. Demographics is destiny and this lousy bunch will steer this country closer to the crapper than ever before.

    Hoi Polloi (093fb9)

  46. One could use stokely carmichael, as the name of this group, same difference.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  47. He only urges the vandalizing of churches

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RBPundit/status/1298615236170321920

    That was sort of a pretext for the spanish civil war if one recalls

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  48. JohnWMarxII
    @JohnWMarxII

    “The rioting has to stop… it’s showing up in the polling, it’s showing up in focus groups.” Don Lemon
    __ _

    After months of rioting, looting, fire, destruction and death, the Dems find a reason why mebbe it should stop.

    Despicable.
    _

    harkin (cd4502)

  49. Dana…

    So, my reaction to the angry youth in the video or anyone trying to force me into submission: Me and my brown skin say feth you to any kind of bullying. I’ll think what I want to think, I’ll believe what I want to believe, I’ll say what I want to say, and I’ll decide when and where I make my stands. All of this because God gave me a brain to think for myself, and I don’t need any mob telling me how to think and what to say. And don’t you dare try to force my hand in such an authoritarian manner. Seriously, just who do you think you are? Let me eat my damn waffle in peace. I owe you nothing.

    INJECT THIS IN MY VEINS!

    You are 100% rightously correct and couldn’t have said it better than what you wrote.

    whembly (c30c83)

  50. @8

    Remember what we were all saying even before COVID: to win in November all the Democrats and the left have to do is avoid going absolutely batsh!t insane. They are instead choosing to go absolutely batsh!t insane. Unbelievable.

    JVW (ee64e4) — 8/25/2020 @ 8:21 pm

    It’s mind boggling.

    The story here is how horrible Trump’s opponents ended up being.

    whembly (c30c83)

  51. ‘God gave me a brain to think for myself… Let me eat my damn waffle in peace.’

    OMG. The power of suggestion. Making a batch… w/butter, maple syrup– and a side of crispy bacon.

    ‘Waffles…’ – Homer Simpson

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  52. @36

    I’d bet my paycheck that if asked, Barack Obama , Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and the overwhelming majority of House and Senate Democrats would condemn that behavior.

    lurker (d8c5bc) — 8/26/2020 @ 12:12 am

    Why would they?

    Isn’t that act the logical extension to things like Pelosi calling GOPers “enemies of the state”???

    whembly (c30c83)

  53. “ I’d bet my paycheck that if asked, Barack Obama , Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and the overwhelming majority of House and Senate Democrats would condemn that behavior.“
    _

    They need to be asked about minority and downtown parts of major American cities being convulsed in riots, looting, fires, destruction and murder? The MSM won’t do it because the meme is that anger is the key, history, logic and common sense be damned.

    They’ll trot out some quote where Robot Joe says he opposes violence but if they were against it they would have been out every day after the Floyd killing saying that it was the opposite of helpful and trying to calm things down. Instead, they targeting anyone saying so as racist.

    And to pile on to their power-above-everything depravity, they devised that it could be used as a way to posit the meme that White America is racist to get out the black vote, so what if some people die and some homes businesses are destroyed/ruined, there’s an election to win!

    The most amazing thing about this lawlessness is that the primary victims are the very community these Democrats (in Democratic Party controlled cities, mind you) profess to support and claim their party has the only solutions.

    Well now we’re getting to the point where it’s not just the black neighborhoods getting destroyed, these anarchist performance-art spectacles of mayhem are now having a disastrous effect not only on the tax base (rich and upper class dependable citizens/businesses moving out) but OMG bad PR!!

    This is like a guide book to the true value Democrats place on the Black community, if only more in the Black community would open their eyes.
    _

    harkin (2dbed4)

  54. “Righteous cause” my ass.

    Richard K Mahler (fd2ee5)

  55. “As I said after George Floyd’s murder, protesting brutality is a right and absolutely necessary. But burning down communities is not protest, it’s needless violence — violence that endangers lives, violence that guts businesses and shutters businesses that serve the community.”

    Time123 (cd2ff4)

  56. 45.

    When your argument is “despite Person I Don’t Like’s issuance of the categorical condemnation I demanded, I know what he really thinks,” your argument is unfalsifiable. In other words, it isn’t an argument at all.

    Or, if you prefer, Son of Sam’s Labrador retriever, Harvey, who never lets me down, tells me that you, Bored Lawyer, are the sinister and enigmatic QAnon. And don’t tell me Harvey, who’d be over 50 by now, is surely dead. That’s exactly what the Bushes, Bertrand Russell, and the Rosicrutions would have you believe. Prove me wrong.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  57. @60 — perhaps you missed the part about how Biden and the DNC dealt with Linda Sarsour. Try rereading the post. Then let’s see if you can justify that.

    As for Al Sharpton, he has a history of race-baiting (“If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house” and “diamond merchants”) and racial instigation (Tawana Brawley), for which he remains unapologetic, that makes one doubt his sincerity.

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  58. Somebody who sees a video of three cops shoot an unarmed man seven times in the back from point blank range, and thinks that his video of a mob of people disturbing diners by asking them to denounce that kind of police behavior is like Brownshirts in the 1930

    There are lots of things to say to this bit of mendacity. As for the shooting, Patterico himself posted about this in detail, and opined that the shooting may well be justified. http://patterico.com/2020/08/25/politicians-and-journalists-leap-to-conclusions-about-shooting-sparking-riots/

    But even if it is not (and at this point we don’t know), at worst possible light, this is a case of police reacting poorly to a very tense, hair-trigger situation, where the person shot was himself behaving erratically or used very poor judgment. (Which can be said of many of the recent videos.)

    So while there may well be a need for better police training and removal of so-called bad apples, it is hardly comparable to the brown-shirts. (Personally, I think racism has little to do with it, and it is more of a matter of police arrogance and poor training.)

    In contrast, the DC mob was a pre-meditated, organized act of political intimidation. The woman (and indeed everyone else there) was being threatened if she did not affirm their political slogan. That is the very essence of fascist tactics, and yes, it is akin to what the Brown Shirts did in the 1930s.

    And BTW, I did not fail to notice your statement that they were “asking” them to denounce violence. That is a blatant mischaracterization that just highlights your dishonesty. What in fact happened is that they were threatening them to make a specific political statement to support their group, and when one woman refused, they surrounded her and tried to intimidate her. So, once again, we know where you stand.

    Now, let’s imagine a pro-Trump group did the same thing – twenty or thirty young supporters of Dah Donald enter a restaurant, all wearing MAGA hats, and demanding that the diners say, “Make America Great Again.” I mean who could object to making America great?

    Such a stunt would make the front page of the NY Times and lead the evening news at all the major news outlets. The howling and condemnation would be heard from Maine to Hawaii.
    From what I can tell, the NY Times did not even mention this latest event. (The Washington Post, to its credit, did.)

    That tells you where the MSM is today (with a few, occasional exceptions).

    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec)

  59. “Righteous cause” my ass.

    Richard K Mahler (fd2ee5) — 8/26/2020 @ 1:14 pm

    I believe that after the shooting of George Floyd, that the subsequent peaceful protests drew attention to a cause that was worthy of attention and some sort of remedy. That issue would be the rate at which black men are being killed by law enforcement, and the unchecked bad police officers involved. I think that the righteousness of that original cost has been co-opted by rioters, looters, anarchist, and other lowlife players. It’s unfortunate that peaceful protest has been devoured by the fringes.

    Dana (292df6)

  60. Amen, Dana. I think a lot of people agree with you.

    Dustin (5418f4)

  61. 62. So a reporter is sent to interview a man who just turned 100. As expected, he asks him the secret of his longevity. The old man says: “I never argue with idiots.” The reporter says: “That can’t possibly be it.” The old man says: “You’re right.”

    Sayonara, Bored Lawyer. Don’t take any wooden nickels.

    nk (1d9030)

  62. 61.

    @60 — perhaps you missed the part about how Biden and the DNC dealt with Linda Sarsour. Try rereading the post. Then let’s see if you can justify that.

    Again your argument proves so much it proves nothing. If “this cherry picked example of how Group I Don’t Like dealt with Person I Don’t Like” proves Group I Don’t Like always lies, then every group always lies. There’s never an insufficiency of cherry pickable examples to prove it.

    As for Al Sharpton, he has a history of race-baiting (“If the Jews want to get it on, tell them to pin their yarmulkes back and come over to my house” and “diamond merchants”) and racial instigation (Tawana Brawley), for which he remains unapologetic, that makes one doubt his sincerity.
    Bored Lawyer (7b72ec) — 8/26/2020 @ 4:59 pm

    First, it’s not only Sharpton. The whole Morning Joe crew agreed, as has every MSNBC talker to opine since.
    And not that it matters, but as you inadvertently proved, Sharpton has no shame about owning a vile opinion. If he cared enough to lie strategically, he’d have long ago expressed remorse over Freddie’s, Crowne Heights, etc.

    lurker (d8c5bc)

  63. Kyle Rittenhouse may be an angry youth unwittingly campaigning for Biden.

    The law enforcement–obsessed 17-year-old who was charged with shooting and killing two people and injuring another in Kenosha, Wisconsin, during protests for Jacob Blake appeared in the front row at a Donald Trump rally in January.

    It makes me wonder where his parents were, both in Des Moines last January and in Kenosha yesterday.

    Paul Montagu (a2078e)

  64. Someone needs to protect lives and property, the governor the state police arent doing it.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  65. JVW made a good point in an email exchange: the people that these punks ambush and pick on are inevitably female and/or males that would clearly not push back in anyway. In other words, they target the vulnerable in those whom they can successfully bully without getting their butts kicked in return.

    Dana (73ea28)

  66. @69. You’d think they’d realize they’re actually playing right into Trump’s hands w/all this. Or perhaps they figure he’ll fumble the ball… because he’s… Trump. A fried sent me an email suggesting they’re plants stirring this up on purpose or him.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  67. They have ‘plenty of room to destroy’ thanks to cadaver evers, who seems hell bemt on turning kenosha? Into the opening from demolition man

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  68. 70/… a couple of weeks ago I told nk that Antifa was probably some Proud Boys that drew a short straw or list a bet circa 2015.

    urbanleftbehind (5f9c18)

  69. They were black bloc. The most hardy of them fought in syria, now theyve come home.

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  70. That’s true, Dana. And across the board as well. All criminals will size you up to see if you’re easy pickings. It’s very important that you present confidence and alertness and not show fear.

    nk (1d9030)

  71. Admittedly I not on Team “Put Him Under the Jail” or Team “Do Him Like They Do Us” when it comes to Rittenhouse and the far more noxious EPS and Dylan Roof. I’d rather the LE and investigators in there cases be given wide latitude to torture the living daylights out of them…then they can put them under the jail.

    urbanleftbehind (5f9c18)

  72. I didnt think there was anything left to loot:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/more-riots-looting-in-minneapolis.php

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  73. A President with credibility would, by now, have marginalized them as thieves, vandals, arsonists, perpetual unemployables, and bored well off thrill-seekers who, as Dana said above, have co-opted a righteous cause.

    nk (1d9030)

  74. Hes like a junior bruce wayne or oliver queen

    https://mobile.twitter.com/antifawatch2/status/1298813336436576256?s=21

    Its no surprise creole obama raoul is going after him

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  75. Weve been drilled with thousand currents eye pincers from every farkin direction, and im calling this extortion scheme by its proper name, because they dont care about average african americans under fire from gangs businessman soldiers police et al

    Bolivar di griz (7404b5)

  76. 100% agree, dana.

    Kyle (a00aa2)


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