Trump Vows To Send In Law Enforcement Officers To Polling Sites On Election Day
[guest post by Dana]
Unsurprising that he would say this, given that he has repeatedly attempted to undermine the integrity of the election and issued warnings about a “rigged election,” fraudulent mail-in voting, and voter fraud:
President Donald Trump on Thursday said he would send law enforcement officials to polling locations to guard against voter fraud in November’s election, although it’s not clear he has the authority to do so.
“We’re going to have sheriffs, and we’re going to have law enforcement, and we’re going to have, hopefully, US attorneys, and we’re going to have everybody and attorney generals (sic),” Trump said during an interview on Fox News with Sean Hannity.
Trump’s comments come as his campaign works to recruit tens of thousands of volunteers for what Republican officials have said could be their largest poll-watching operation. Even before Trump’s comments, his party’s plans to monitor the polls have sparked charges from Democrats and voting-rights groups that Republicans are gearing up to suppress voting in key states.
Trump says that on election day he's going to send law enforcement to polling locations pic.twitter.com/OpaYvUBY8P
— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) August 21, 2020
In typical Trump fashion, the President has made a claim without first doing his homework, as law professor Steve Vladeck points out:
Federal law expressly prohibits any federal officer from sending “troops or armed men” to any polling place “unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States.”
So what Trump is proposing is not just offensive; it’s also illegal.
Vladek references 18 U.S. Code § 592:
Troops at polls U.S. Code
Whoever, being an officer of the Army or Navy, or other person in the civil, military, or naval service of the United States, orders, brings, keeps, or has under his authority or control any troops or armed men at any place where a general or special election is held, unless such force be necessary to repel armed enemies of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both; and be disqualified from holding any office of honor, profit, or trust under the United States.
This section shall not prevent any officer or member of the armed forces of the United States from exercising the right of suffrage in any election district to which he may belong, if otherwise qualified according to the laws of the State in which he offers to vote.
If Trump deployed law enforcement officers to polling sites around the country, how would it not result in legal action from Democrats and how would it not be seen as a direct effort to inhibit, intimidate, and suppress voters?
With that, the White House continues to fortify its position in a pre-emptive strike of casting doubt on the integrity of election if Trump loses:
White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany did not commit President Trump to accepting the results of the presidential election, saying the president has been clear that he will “see what happens” in November.
Her comment in a White House news conference came after the president cast doubt on the election results on Monday, when he said, “The only way we’re going to lose this election is if the election is rigged.”
On Wednesday, McEnany was asked if that comment means the president will not accept the election results if he loses.
“Is the president saying if he doesn’t win this election that he will not accept the results, unless he wins?” an ABC News journalist asked.
“The president has always said he’ll see what happens, and make a determination in the aftermath. It’s the same thing he said last November. He wants a free election, a fair election, and he wants confidence in the results of the election,” McEnany responded, before criticizing states with mass mail-in voting.
The president did indeed give a similar answer in a recent interview with Fox News’ Chris Wallace, who asked the president if he would commit to accepting the election results.
“I have to see. Look, you — I have to see. No, I’m not going to just say ‘yes.’ I’m not going to say no and I didn’t last time either,” the president said during the interview.
Lining up his ducks, given there are only 74 days until the election.
–Dana
He’s so incredibly transparent. And that’s not a compliment.
Dana (292df6) — 8/21/2020 @ 8:29 amRepublicans in key states continue urging voters to cast ballots by mail
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In one mailer to Arizona Republicans, the state Republican Party encourages people to vote by mail. It has a picture of Trump with a quote of his from July 30 saying, “I will be an absentee voter. We have a lot of absentee voters. It works, so we are in favor of absentee.” It includes a return address label for voters to send this application back directly to the county.
In North Carolina, Republican voters received a similar mailer also with a picture of the president and the words “Urgent notice.” It also says, “Your official absentee ballot status needs your attention” and includes a quote from July by the president that says “Absentee Ballots are fine because you have to go through a precise process to get your voting privilege.”
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……Republicans are warning that the president’s effort to undercut faith in mail-in voting could also undermine himin Arizona, where he is down in polling and will likely need a jolt of support from rural counties, which have historically voted by mail at high rates.
“President Trump continually calling into question mail-in voting won’t help our numbers in Arizona,” said Barrett Marson, a veteran GOP strategist who is behind DefendArizona, a super PAC backing Sen. Martha McSally’s current Senate bid. “It’s of utmost importance that Republicans trust the mail-in voting system, which we’ve had for a generation, and that they use it.”
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:05 am……
mr. president donald trump, who sees crystal visions and does not keep those visions to himself, will be as competent monitoring the election as he has been with everything else
you can bank on it
the only question to ask, really, is how much of the treasury will he take with him when he absconds to russia
nk (1d9030) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:07 amAs long as Census Cowboy shows up, those fed boys are gonna run screaming into the lake.
urbanleftbehind (2435f7) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:14 amI’m glad that he’s lazy and incompetent.
Time123 (d1bf33) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:17 amIf a competent authoritarian wanted to do this they’d have planned it out 6 months ago, come up with a pretext, and announced it as something that didn’t contradict US law.
An authoritarian would ignore the law.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:20 amIf a competent authoritarian wanted to do this they’d have planned it out 6 months ago
Like putting the opposition campaign under surveillance… just brainstorming here.
beer ‘n pretzels (c7deaa) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:20 amTrump vows…
You could do several posts on those two words alone. Start w/Ivana. Then Marla. Then Melania… and so on, and so on. 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:24 amIt would be nice to have a president who talks out of his mouth instead of out of his a$$.
Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:26 am**wistful sigh**
1.He’s so incredibly transparent. And that’s not a compliment.
Voters are comforted knowing they’re smarter than the cartoon they’re watching.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:27 am@9. We’ve tried 46 times but the Constitution’s Electoral College keeps getting in the way. 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:30 amif mr. president donald trump, who uses good ‘n plenty candy to make his train run, were really serious, he would not send federal law enforcement officers to polling sites to monitor the election
he would send them to Heaven to protect God from mr. joe biden
that’s what he would do
nk (1d9030) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:30 amSo dark, get ready to walk with teh Light
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:30 ambringerally.Re: Trump
There, but for the grace of God, go I.
felipe (023cc9) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:33 amSome people just don’t like police…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:34 am9.It would be nice to have a president who talks out of his mouth instead of out of his a$$.**wistful sigh**
“No miracle is coming.” -Plagiarist JoeyBee, DNC acceptance speech, 8/20/2020
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:34 amTrump thinks voter fraud looks like the casino smash and grab robbery example from Oceans 11?
“Wild eyed ex-hippie came rushing into the polling place and grabbed a ballot box, attempting to make off with the votes. Fortunately, the delusional madman was halted in the attempt.”
Nic (896fdf) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:46 amI wonder what the federal laws say about having the NBPP showing up at polling sites.
Hoi Polloi (dc4124) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:48 amit will be fine,
https://www.mcall.com/news/elections/mc-nws-pa-presidential-election-trump-biden-muhlenberg-poll-20200820-erb3maqkvbgxljw2e5mv6pblkm-story.html
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:50 am`he would send them to Heaven to protect God from mr. joe biden
that’s what he would do
felipe (023cc9) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:51 amnk (1d9030) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:30 am
Nic at #17 with the impeccable Jack Webb color Dragnet-’65. impression
urbanleftbehind (2435f7) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:55 amIG report said there was proper predicate.
Senate report detailed numerous actions that justify a counter intelligence investigation.
But I’m sure Q will release the evidence to prove your theory correct any day now.
Time123 (d1bf33) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:56 amThat was rude. I’m sorry I said it.
Time123 (d1bf33) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:00 amMost of you should vote for Biden to be consistent with your opinions.
Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:01 amDo I really think there will be peaceful voting at the polls this Nov 3rd? Will it occur to BLM/Antifa to put in an appearance? Is Trump baiting them? If Trump, somehow, manages a presence of LE at/near the polls, will that draw them? If BLM/Antifa show up whether or not LE is present, will they be the “good guys?”
felipe (023cc9) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:02 amit was garbage from clinesmith. and strzok, and weissman, who destroyed whole companies in the past. of course, they outright lied to judge contreras, and he had the decency to recuse himself but not cancel the plea,
but as pointed out, the reversals in mcdonnell, stevens, delay, black, had functionally no difference, so ray donovans line, still stands,
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:05 am@24-
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:06 amI’m not voting for President.
I disagree. We can hold any number of opinions that disagree with Trump’s view of this, but that does not mean that we should vote for Biden to be consistent. It just means that, while most of us are concerned with Trump attempting to jigger the election himself – through painfully transparent means – or reject the outcome, so too is Biden concerned about that. Perhaps for different reasons, perhaps for the same. But that overlap doesn’t mean that our consistent thoughts must be affirmed by voting for someone we disagree with on policy. *We = generic ‘we’
Dana (292df6) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:07 am@21. Just the facts: There was no “Dragnet ’65.” 😉
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:08 amDana (292df6) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:07 am
I’m glad you beat me to the punch, Dana. I like your response better than my own.
felipe (023cc9) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:09 am@21 Thank you, I’ll take the compliment.
Nic (896fdf) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:11 amwell any vote that empowers the left candidate, does much the same, does garcetti, harris and newsom not make the point crystal clear,
https://babalublog.com/2020/08/20/jimmy-carter-fidel-castros-old-friend-sure-seems-a-brilliant-judge-of-character-decency-honesty-integrity-and-of-those-who-want-whats-best-for-america/#comments
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:13 am@28. It’s all part of the show.
He’s a showman; he delivers his lines; grabs attention; people watch, react; applaud or boo- it’s entertaining.
While an angry old man shouting, ‘No miracle is coming’ is not. It’s depressing; dour; defeatist.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:15 amCan’t sell the “mostly peaceful” nitwits who support teh Pony-faced dogf**ker Biden short.
An appropriate police presence will help deter miscreants.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:16 amno it’s quite serious for me, one finds way to ignore the firestorm of rioting, which weakened whatever was left after this ill considered flatline, which was ferguson’s rx, handed to fauci,
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:17 amthey want you personally disarmed, the mccloskeys are exhibit a, if they can’t do that they can blackball like they tried to nick sandmann, they deplatformed the one who revealed who private maytag really is,
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:20 amwhat a tangle,
https://www.occrp.org/en/investigations/a-hidden-tycoon-african-explosives-and-a-loan-from-a-notorious-bank-questionable-connections-surround-beirut-explosion-shipment
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:21 amThere is no Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy, or Easter Bunny, and storks do not bring babies. But there is such a thing as Dr. Seuss, Disneyland, and Mother Goose, God did make little green apples, and it does rain in Indianapolis in the summertime.
And Covid-19, which is killing 1,200 Americans a day, more than Putin imagined when he ordered
nk (1d9030) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:24 amTrump to let it loose, is not going to just magically disappear.
To be fair, there have long been suggestions that a Trump WIN would be fraudulent. ANd the Democrats as a whole have #resisted the last election’s outcome.
Trump does himself and the country no favors here, but it is incorrect to say that he is alone in this, or even the instigator.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:34 amAnd Covid-19, which is killing 1,200 Americans a day, more than Putin imagined when he ordered
Trump to let it loose, is not going to just magically disappear.
So, let’s talk again about QAnon.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:36 amBut the Trump campaign insisted that Carter Page had nothing to do with them:
I can’t believe you’d suggest that the Trump campaign was less than forthright with the American people, and with law enforcement, about a matter related to national security, counter-intelligence, and the integrity of the election.
Why, if they were (gasp) lying, it would suggest they had something to hide, wouldn’t it?
Unimaginable!
And note this was a full month before Page was put under electronic surveillance.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:36 amBesides, we know that COvid-19 is a Chinese attack to destabilize the Trump administration and to wreck havoc with the world economy in retaliation for Trump’s tariffs.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:39 amI think it’s fair to say he’s by far the loudest voice.
Time123 (7cca75) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:41 amI also think that making opposition to the other parties presidents goals is not the same thing as denying they are lawfully the president.
they wanted to destabilize the west I pointed out the words of general chi haotian, the chief strategist, on these matters going back decades,
now we dug ourselves into a hole, decades ago, with that ‘mirroring problem’ we think hostile regimes, like china and iran, are somehow amenable to negotiation about the nature of their regime and their impacts on the world,
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:45 amExpected closing of Trump’s acceptance speech:
“…and you’re damn right I ordered the Code Red on the postal service…”
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:49 amGod, I hope he ad libs the whole thing.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:50 amIt is the investigative officers burden to make the case, so they falsified omitted evidence
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:50 amOff by 2 years, point still the same. But this iteration begat Adam 12 which begat Emergency! and ended with CHiPs
urbanleftbehind (2435f7) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:51 am@41: Why, if they were (gasp) lying, it would suggest they had something to hide, wouldn’t it?
Dave, before you move those goalposts again, why would the FBI lie?
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/potentially-another-crime-lindsey-graham-referring-former-fbi-counterintelligence-chief-to-john-durham
https://tennesseestar.com/2020/08/10/lindsey-graham-memo-shows-fbi-lied-to-senate-about-dossier-source/
beer ‘n pretzels (05696d) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:01 amNot really.
Is Trump saying that he is going to put US attorneys and AGs in polling stations as well? Which stations would they go to?
In combating “fraud” law enforcement at all levels should be involved. It is easy to get tunnel vision negativity when reviewing a Trump answer as it compares to a stupid Hannity triple question. I think it is a more fair viewing of this exchange to believe that Trump was responding to part of Hannity’s question and not suggesting that he is sending US Attorneys to polling locations but rather he will have them deal with reported fraud.
I am probably wrong about this.
BuDuh (fef34b) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:04 amYou’re the one trying to change the subject.
We were talking about your claim that Trump’s campaign was put under surveillance, which I proved false using statements from … Trump’s campaign.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:06 amDavethulu, I have not forgotten about getting you an answer on “fine people from both sides.” I found a large document that may help me make my case and I have been going through it as time permits. I will tell you either way what I find.
BuDuh (fef34b) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:07 amThe DOJ should be five months into a surveillance operation of Biden’s campaign by now, as just part of what’s considered normal.
beer ‘n pretzels (05696d) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:07 amToo messy. Leaves a paper trail and requires actual evidence.
Much better to get on the phone to a few countries who need our aid to survive and send Rudy to gin up something deniable on the down-low.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:13 amI also think that making opposition to the other parties presidents goals is not the same thing as denying they are lawfully the president.
Here’s Hillary, yesterday, casting doubt on both the upcoming election and the last one:
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:13 amhttps://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/19/hillary-clinton-dnc-speech-398893https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/19/hillary-clinton-democratic-national-convention-speech
Ot lovecraft country seems interesting for the first episode.
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:13 amThe DOJ should be five months into a surveillance operation of Biden’s campaign by now, as just part of what’s considered normal.
They could start with a tap on the DNC office phones.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:14 amWe’re going to have everything. We’re going to have sheriffs and we’re going to have law enforcement and we’re going to have hopefully, U.S. attorneys, and we’re going to have everybody, and attorney generals. But it’s very hard.
Sad when Trump’s disjointed responses need to explained by Trump fans (only in the most positive light). I take him at his word.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:16 amFour year anniversary of “we’ll stop him” and “insurance policy” texts.
beer ‘n pretzels (05696d) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:16 amI completely agree with you. If only Biden had said “It’s not going to magically disappear!”
felipe (023cc9) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:18 amOr they could get a sympathetic country to hack into the DNC computers and then release embarrassing material for the next few months.
Oh, wait…
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:21 amThis isn’t the first time Trump has called for law enforcement to oversee voting:
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The first is that, like so many of Trump’s wild assertions, he has made it before. In August 2016, he gave a speech in Altoona, Pa., in which he pledged to combat what he presented as endemic fraud in the state.
“We have to call up law enforcement. And we have to have the sheriffs and the police chiefs and everybody watching,” he said then, later adding another familiar refrain, that “the only way they can beat [me] in my opinion — and I mean this 100 percent — is if in certain sections of the state they cheat, okay?”
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:22 am……
Which polling stations will the AGs be manning?
BuDuh (fef34b) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:26 amSomeone alert Steve Vladek.
BuDuh (fef34b) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:28 amWho can oversee voting?
[ ] Law enforcement
[ X ] Black Panthers
beer ‘n pretzels (41af45) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:31 amMeanwhile, Vladimir continues to show everyone how it’s done:
Definitely style points earned here for poisoning his enemy with something so nasty that it also kills the doctors treating him…
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:33 amLike they’re gonna announce that ahead of time …
smh
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:38 amAs long as you and Rip believe the AGs are going to go to polling stations as observers, that is probably all the intimidation Trump needs, Dave. It also may explain your shaking head.
BuDuh (fef34b) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:41 am@53
“It is 11:00 PM and I am giving my daily checkin on the Malarkey Surveillance Project. At 6 AM what appeared to be a teenager threw what appeared to be a newspaper into the Biden driveway. It landed where the sprinklers partially water the driveway. They should adjust the sprinklers to be more accurately aimed. At 8:00 AM a light went on in what we have determined is the masterbedroom. At 8:05 a light went on in what we have determined to be the master bathroom. At the same time a light went on in the hallway. At approximately 8:28 lights came on in what appears to be the kitchen. Shortly thereafter the smell of bacon began to emanate from the kitchen. We believe the window may have been open. At 9 AM Biden exited the house through the front door and picked up what appears to be a newspaper from the driveway. He immediately returned to the house. He was also carrying a coffee cup and appeared to be wearing cargo shorts, a tshirt, and birkenstocks.
At 9:30 a person appearing to be Dr. Jill Biden opened the garage door and exited the property via a vehicle we believe to be registered to both Jill and Joe Biden. At 10:00 several masked people appearing to be adults arrived at the property on bicycles and wearing neon skin tight spandex bicycling clothes. They did not appear to be carrying weapons, which was unfortunately easy to determine, so we have concluded they were there to ride bicycles. Former Vice President Biden entered the garage from the house and wheeled a bicycle out of the garage, closing the garage door after him. In violation of safety standards, he did not appear to be wearing a helmet.”
At 11:00 AM Dr. Jill Biden returned to the house in her vehicle and, on exiting the vehicle, began carrying paper bags into the house. We believe they were groceries. Former Vice President Biden returned to the house with his bicycle gang several minutes later, appeared to say something to the gang, and waved. The other bicyclists left and Mr. Biden joined Dr. Biden in carrying paper bags into the house.
There was no further activity until 3:30. At 3:30 several of what appear to be small children arrived carrying icecream cones. They proceeded to sit on the steps up to the Biden’s front porch. Mr. Biden exited the house carrying a carton, which, due to video enhancement, we were able to determine was icecream. He appears to have begun a conversation with the probable children. One child became distressed when a drip fell on their shorts, but ceased crying when Mr. Biden spoke to them. At 4:00 the children left and Mr. Biden returned to the house.
At 6:00 the odor of steak wafted from the back yard. It was determined by other agents that the Bidens were barbecuing. John says they also had corn and potatoes. I had a bag of cheetos and a carrot. At 6:30 the lights went on in the dining room and at 7:15 the lights went off there and the kitchen lights came on. At 8:00 the lights in what we have determined is the TV room came on, as well as the lights in Dr. Biden’s office. At 10:00 the lights in the TV room and the office went off and the lights in what we have determined to be the Master bedroom and bath came on. At 10:45 all lights were turned off. There has been no activity since.”
Nic (896fdf) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:47 amHillary Rodham Clinton made her national debut in a Life magazine essay in June, 1969; Plagiarist JoeyBee has been in nat’l government since 1972– 48 years.
Pot. Kettle. Blacks:
“No miracle is coming.” – Joe Biden 8/20/20
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:47 am59… “shut up!“
They said…
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:48 amBiden reads a speech with only a few minor garbles and Beltway commentariat declares, byGod… he CAN be president!
Back to your Basement Bunker, Sl0w J0e!
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:52 amTeh next words out of Sl0w J0e’s mouth: “help!!! I’ve fallen and I can’t shave!”
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:54 amThe feds could give that rat 🐀 effer Tom Perez a life sentence after just scratching the surface of his crimes.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:57 amMeanwhile, Vladimir continues to show everyone how it’s done:
Weak.
I think exporting a virus that poisons millions, then getting the US media and fellow travelers to blame the American president is pretty hard to beat.
beer ‘n pretzels (f6fadb) — 8/21/2020 @ 11:58 amBreaking- Laughlin sentenced to 2 months in prison.
Lori will do more time than Trump ever will; or Nixon ever did.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 12:02 pmWhat kind of president does Joe Biden want to be?” ask Chad Aldeman and Alex Spurrier of Bellwether Education Partners. Will he fight for the underdogs or for the teachers’ unions?
The Democratic Party’s platform, based on a Biden-Sanders ‘unity’ task force’s recommendations, ‘steer Biden away from the coalition of Black and low-income voters who brought him the nomination,’ write Aldeman and Spurrier. ‘Maybe this shouldn’t come as a surprise — given that two of the eight members of the task force are the heads of the two major teachers unions’.
https://www.joannejacobs.com/2020/08/say-it-aint-so-joe/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 12:05 pmThe Biden Campaign has already chosen their side…
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minneapolis-police-biden-bail/biden-staff-donate-to-group-that-pays-bail-in-riot-torn-minneapolis-idUSKBN2360SZ
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 12:11 pm@77 Do you, um, know? what a public charter school is?
Nic (896fdf) — 8/21/2020 @ 12:11 pm79… sure do, Sparky!
Filed under “Pinheaded Academia“…
A professor who regularly writes about race and health issues recently argued that the stigma surrounding obesity is linked to racism.
Sabrina Strings, a professor of sociology at the University of California, Irvine told CBS News that the medical community�s approach to weight issues stems from anti-blackness and oppression.
She told CBS News on August 20:
We cannot deny the fact that fat-phobia is rooted in anti-Blackness. That’s simply an historical reality. Today, when people talk about it, they often claim that they don’t intend to be anti-Black … they don�t intend all of these negative associations, and yet they exist already, so whenever people start trafficking in fat-phobia, they are inherently picking up on these historical forms of oppression.
https://www.thecollegefix.com/sociology-professor-fat-phobia-is-rooted-in-anti-blackness/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 12:16 pmThat varies though, although the respective teachers unions have begun to make incursions into the charter networks nationwide. Its reminiscent of how IDOT middle management elected to join the Teamsters after getting no raises during the Blago era.
urbanleftbehind (2435f7) — 8/21/2020 @ 12:21 pm@80 What do you think a public charter school is?
Nic (896fdf) — 8/21/2020 @ 12:21 pmBuDuh
I don’t think you’re right. If I want to give him a ‘fair’ reading I’d say
Trump doesn’t really think about what his words mean, he says them because they sound good in the moment.
Trump thinks being strong against fraud helps him.
Trump thinks overwhelming force is the way to go.
Trump like a ‘muscular’, forceful response.
It’s probably just puffery and bluster intended to make him look strong.
But we don’t know.
Time123 (dba73f) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:03 pmIt’s funny you call it a bunker when Trump was very recently hiding in a actual bunker.
Time123 (dba73f) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:05 pmEvery New York State polling place has a policeman. Sometimes two. For many, many years. They mostly keep themselves out of view. They deliver supplies and take one of the results away. I think it must have been designed to assure the integrity of the results
http://aceproject.org/electoral-advice/archive/questions/replies/49196295
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:09 pm@84
Not really. The Secret Service moved Trump to the bunker… not because Trump wanted to go in the bunker.
whembly (c30c83) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:14 pmGreat point.
Now do “Person, woman, man, camera, TV.”
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:17 pm@87, Trump in the past accused people of things he’s done/is doing. I wonder if this is more of the same.
Time123 (66d88c) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:22 pm@86, Was still in the bunker.
Time123 (66d88c) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:22 pmPlagiarist JoeyBee has a lot Iin common w/t California power grid; they only operate a few hours at a time then need to shutdown for a rest to save energy.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:29 pmTrump categorically denied that:
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:30 pmTom Perez needs reminded that America is a nation of mutts; not mud people.
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:31 pmNow do “Person, woman, man, camera, TV.”
He probably has; but none are as hot as his daughter Ivanka, eh Davey?
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:32 pm@91, Dave stop using Trumps statements to try and establish facts. No one believes him. Not even his supporters.
Time123 (66d88c) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:37 pm@28
It is merely opinion that Trump is trying to “jigger” the election, not fact.
It is also merely opinion that said “jiggering” is “through painfully transparent means.”
I have no problem with someone having these opinions, but they are not facts. I have a number of Trump hating friends, and they are impossible to talk to. The FIRST thing they always do is get angry or emotional. Facts not allowed.
Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:37 pm16. DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:34 am
Joe Biden probably doesn’t realize this, and neother do most other people, but he just created a hostage to fortune.
Suppose the virus does disappear from the United States in October?
I don’t think Trump would want to bet the other way, and challenge that assertion in a debate, but it would be nice if he did and he won his bet.
Everybody deserves a comeuppance.
And then there was Biden saying we need more testing, like Trump could just order it. Actually, yes he could, but that would mean overriding of pressing the FDA, which Biden is dead set against. The problem was Trump saying testing was available when getting the results was not available.
I think actually a “miracle” is coming.
We’re heading there.
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:40 pmProgress is made
Horatio (161811) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:41 pmI said there were places in New York City where 9-% (that’s what I read) of the people had antibodies. And, in addition, someone told me that in Boro Park it was 75% (just the people who took tests of course which may skew it) but nevertheless there was an outbreak of 16 cases in Boro Park, which Mayor de Blasio says may be linked to a large wedding.
The New York Times reports today antibody positive results somewhat lower than 75% or 80%
Thw highest antibody positive rate, over 50%, is, suitably, in Corona, Queens. The lowest is in Manhattan south of 96 St. The average for the city is 27%. You get more tests taken where the antibody positive result is higher. 15% of the city as a whole has been tested.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/19/nyregion/new-york-city-antibody-test.html
Purim was Tuesday March 10 and the parties would have been in the late afternoon.
Many synagogues closed at the end of that week, and certainly by the next week. It first broke into the news the week before.
I think it was seeded by some more “modern” Jews who took vacations in Italy, particularly skiing vacations because the outbreak seems to be linked to skiing. There are a large number of Italians in New York and because of this travel agents sold trips for years – and is common for Israelis too.
You’d get a connection to other Jews through weddings, funerals and Bar Mitzvahs, not to mention a certain amount of variation in what shul someone attended. It wasn’t exactly African Americans who had the highest rate of infection at first – but that’s not something the Democratic Party is going to notice.
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:45 pm@96-
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:49 pm“Too dream, the impossible dream”
Having watched a number of Joe’s interactions in brief interviews recently, its hard to imagine he could do such a comparatively excellent job of reading a 22 minute speech last night.
Just seems unlikely. It would have been entirely possible it was recorded and the live part was when he walked from the building to the crowd in their cars outside.
But let’s assume he did do it live.
What now is the reason he can’t interview with Chris Wallace and other street smart reporters, in a 20 minute give and take live interview.
Will this be happening?
Eyefull (fd0e2c) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:50 pmNext week’s convention should amusing as they try to simultaneously convince people that:
1) Everything is wonderful! 10/10, absolutely tremendous.
2) Nothing is Trump’s fault!
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:52 pmKamala Harris, although visibly black and associating with blacks is culturally more a high class Hindu, not Jamaican. Her mother was a high class Brahmin from Tamil Nadu, many of whom emigrated to the United States because of India’s socialist policies and obstacles to advancement posed by affirmative action.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/world/asia/kamala-harris-india.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-kamala-harris-isnt-saying-about-her-mothers-background-11597944590
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:55 pmWILMINGTON, DE—Fans nervously gathered by the dozens on Thursday to hear Joe Biden’s historic acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention. After 20 minutes, supporters and Democrats across the nation were blown away by Biden’s ability to make it through a coherent speech without forgetting who he was or falling asleep.
As the Biden delivered his final words, Democrats exhaled and erupted in rapturous applause, their abysmal expectations shattered.
“I can’t believe it! He actually did it!” one campaign staffer exclaimed. “It’s taken weeks to prepare for this event. We had to make sure and remove any distractions, such as heads of hair, or shiny objects from the stage. We surrounded him with teleprompters which included colorful pictures. He practiced reading the speech 1,200 times. We’ve been pumping him full of various drugs for 3 days to keep him more lucid. All our hard work paid off!”
“This is an inspiring story of bravery and strength in the face of senility,” said NBC anchor Chuck Todd. “If Biden did this, imagine what he can do for this country!” Todd said through tears of joy.
“What did I miss?” asked Biden after walking down the steps of the stage as fireworks exploded in the sky.
https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-exceeds-all-expectations-by-speaking-coherently-for-over-20-minutes
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 1:57 pmMore:
Kamala Harris may have lied abbout her grandfather’s support for independence:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/16/world/asia/kamala-harris-india.html
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:01 pm@104-
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:07 pmLied or misremembered? I can’t count the number of times “family lore” was wrong on Antiques Roadshow.
A New Jersey election has been invalidated by a judge, and a new election has been ordered to be held, due to rampant mail-in voter fraud.
On Wednesday, State Superior Court Judge Ernest Caposela ruled that the election for a Paterson City Council seat had been irreversibly tainted. A new election has been ordered to take place in November.
The mayor of Paterson praised the ruling. “It was the right ruling,” Mayor Andre Sayegh told CNN. “That past election was fraught with fraud.”
Four people were charged with criminal conduct in connection to the fraudulent election, including a Paterson councilman and the councilman-elect.
Michael Jackson, 48, of Paterson—1st Ward Councilman and Council Vice President, was charged with Fraud in Casting Mail-In Vote (3rd Degree), Unauthorized Possession of Ballots (3rd Degree), Tampering with Public Records (3rd Degree), and Falsifying or Tampering with Records (4th Degree).
Alex Mendez, 45, of Paterson—3rd Ward Councilman-Elect, was charged with Election Fraud (2nd Degree), Fraud in Casting Mail-In Vote (3rd Degree), Unauthorized Possession of Ballots (3rd Degree), False Registration or Transfer (Third-Degree), Tampering with Public Records (3rd Degree), and Falsifying or Tampering with Records (4th Degree).
Shelim Khalique, 51, of Wayne, N.J., was charged with Fraud in Casting Mail-In Vote (3rd Degree), Unauthorized Possession of Ballots (3rd Degree), Tampering with Public Records (3rd Degree), and Falsifying or Tampering with Records (4th Degree).
Abu Razyen, 21, of Prospect Park, N.J., was charged with Fraud in Casting Mail-In Vote (3rd Degree) and Unauthorized Possession of Ballots (3rd Degree).
https://pjmedia.com/election/matt-margolis/2020/08/21/we-told-you-so-new-jersey-election-invalidated-because-of-mail-in-voter-fraud-n823582
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:13 pmRush Limbaugh went through the issue of was it taped.
The speech does have flubs and verbal missteps. It wasn’t perfectly delivered.
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/08/21/did-you-hear-all-these-flubs-in-bidens-speech
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:17 pm105 – nailed it on Antiques Roadshow.
mg (8cbc69) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:17 pmWhen yer right You. Are. Right.
What have the Democrats done to solve ANYTHING? Help the poor? No. Help black & brown people? No. Stop police brutality? No. Help single mothers? No. Help children? No. You have achieved nothing. NOTHING. Why did people vote Trump? Because of you motherf*ckers.
— – Rose McGowan
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:17 pm104. Oh its possible Kamala Harris just got it wrong about hr grandfather. (except that’s what current day academic opinion says he should have been, so there;s a reason to say things that way)
Got it wrong, maybe. But this was a book, and people tend to check more what they put in a book.
I guess it depends on what you think is more likely for Kamala Harris to do. Think by mistake that her grandfather was active in India’s independence movement, or tell a lie.
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:21 pmHere’s more from Rush Limbaugh on Biden’s speech:
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/08/21/biden-repeats-charlottesville-lie-we-correct-it
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/08/21/rove-destroys-democrats-on-coronavirus-lies/
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/08/21/bidens-handlers-know-he-cant-do-the-debates/
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/08/21/plugs-limps-over-low-bar-to-end-apocalyptic-week/
Sammy Finkelman (db2a13) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:23 pm@106-
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:24 pmThe system worked.
You are the season of darkness. @JoeBiden @dnc You are monsters. You are frauds. You are the lie.
— – Rose McGowan
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:36 pmA reminder:
https://mobile.twitter.com/marcthiessen/status/1296918504948609024
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:37 pm@109 That’s amazing… and she’s not wrong.
whembly (c30c83) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:38 pmIn real news
https://mobile.twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1296915788805308417
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:39 pmWell, I guess Smash Mouth’s gonna get their Cali card revoked…and praying for Gryph in his heavy matters not related to masks:
http://news.yahoo.com/sturgis-motorcycle-rally-tied-coronavirus-002612074.html
urbanleftbehind (2435f7) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:47 pmShe best watch herself, carports only, no garage doors.
urbanleftbehind (2435f7) — 8/21/2020 @ 2:51 pmIt is pretty outrageous that the Democrats controlled the House, Senate, and Presidency for 2 years and the Presidency and Senate for 2 more and yet did nothing. Shame.
Manotaur (0c90cd) — 8/21/2020 @ 3:30 pmIt’s fascinating to see people on this blog complain about authoritarianism but applaud it with regard to statewide mask mandates. Similar lack of consistency that people on this site show towards deficit spending unless it’s spending by the post office where 25 billion is declared a “pittance”.
1DaveMac (4cc9b4) — 8/21/2020 @ 3:43 pmRose McGowan is a cocaine-addled Hollywood trollop, whose femininity is even more questionable than her morals, mad that Megyn Kelly got $20 million from Fox (not to mention a movie with Charlize Theron) just by swinging her hips, while she only got $100,000 from Harvey Weinstein and she had to go all the way for that.
nk (1d9030) — 8/21/2020 @ 3:45 pmOh, and conspiracy theories, where conspiracy theories are condemned unless they are conspiracy theories posed by posters on this site.
1DaveMac (4cc9b4) — 8/21/2020 @ 3:48 pmCons And Piracy: The Story Of A Fifth Avenue Fancy Boy And His Rich Jerkoff Cronies. An unauthorized biography of Donald J. Trump.
nk (1d9030) — 8/21/2020 @ 3:56 pmMore proof of the Roy Cohn theory:
urbanleftbehind (bc3674) — 8/21/2020 @ 4:08 pmhttp://consequenceofsound.net/2020/08/trump-rolling-stones-ymca-rallies/
Steve Vladeck May want to call those cops and tell them to quit meddling in elections.
BuDuh (35939c) — 8/21/2020 @ 4:14 pmFormer Army Special Forces Officer Charged in Russian Espionage Conspiracy
……
According to court documents, from December 1996 to January 2011, Peter Rafael Dzibinski Debbins, 45, a former member of the U.S. Army, allegedly conspired with agents of a Russian intelligence service. During that time, Debbins periodically visited Russia and met with Russian intelligence agents. In 1997, Debbins was assigned a code name by Russian intelligence agents and signed a statement attesting that he wanted to serve Russia.
……
Over the course of the conspiracy, Debbins allegedly provided the Russian intelligence agents with information that he obtained as a member of the U.S. Army, including information about his chemical and Special Forces units. In 2008, after leaving active duty service, Debbins disclosed to the Russian intelligence agents classified information about his previous activities while deployed with the Special Forces. Debbins also provided the Russian intelligence agents with the names of, and information about, his former Special Forces team members so that the agents could evaluate whether to approach the team members to see if they would cooperate with the Russian intelligence service.
Debbins is charged with conspiring to provide United States national defense information to agents of a foreign government. If convicted, Debbins faces a maximum penalty of life in prison. Actual sentences for federal crimes are typically less than the maximum penalties. A federal district court judge will determine any sentence after taking into account the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.
Rip Murdock (d2a2a8) — 8/21/2020 @ 4:20 pm…….
Life in prison is too short a sentence.
Wow, this Belcher lady is even fatter than Trump!
nk (1d9030) — 8/21/2020 @ 4:22 pmwhy did it take 9 years to catch him, along with this mortal combat character, who was a translator for the bureau,
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 4:23 pmshe generates her own gravity well, so what was this move against bannon really about, it’s about his anti eu stance, and support for chinese opposition figure, miles guo, who has been a thorn in xi’s lo mein,
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 4:26 pmBannon will plead guilty and throw himself on the mercy of the court on November 4. Meantime, he’ll play Vinnie Barbarino for all it’s worth. This sounds like a cut-and-dried case, for guilty or innocent, the money either went to the wall or it did not.
nk (1d9030) — 8/21/2020 @ 4:33 pmOnly Page and Manafort (who betrayed the United States, working with a Russian spy) were surveiled. The others who made suspicious contacts with Putin people were investigated.
Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/21/2020 @ 5:08 pmIt’s funny that so many Trump people had so many contacts with Russians and so few interactions other foreign nationals. You’d think that a federal counterintelligence agency might wonder why.
#132 this is a classic example of a conspiracy theory that passes without comment from any of you. They did not betray the United States. Anybody who claims they did does not understand the definition of the word treason and does not believe in the rule of law. You are inventing a non existent crime and convicting them in your own mind.
1DaveMac (4cc9b4) — 8/21/2020 @ 5:49 pmIts just embarassing how he still keeps stepping on a rake, wise dave.
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 6:01 pmA palate cleanser
https://mobile.twitter.com/BlackRiflesORG/status/1296190746966532097
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 6:03 pm133… He’s just trying to be even-handed. Show him the man and he’ll show you teh crime.
But, seriously… it’s a problem, this excuse-making for surveillance and weaponizing the fed bureaucracy is laughable.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 6:04 pmOops
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/08/21/breaking-all-federal-buildings-in-portland-evacuated-amid-car-bomb-threat-n824365
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 6:10 pmNot again
https://thepostmillennial.com/joe-biden-accused-of-plargiarizing-late-canadian-politician-jack-layton-in-dnc-speech
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 6:13 pm“Authoritarianism”
LOL.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 6:19 pmThe ccp was all for the lockdown, particularly in italy.
https://mobile.twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1137071087920066560
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 6:29 pmMuch better than 900 pages
https://apelbaum.files.wordpress.com/2020/08/gir-linkage.jpg
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 7:14 pmOr they could get a sympathetic country to hack into the DNC computers
Debunked until there was no bunk left. I thought we were opposed to wild conspiracy theories.
Kevin M (ab1c11) — 8/21/2020 @ 7:26 pmWell its in a govt report but it must the hawaiian shirt suited folk.
https://www.portlandoregon.gov/fire/news/read.cfm?id=261114
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 7:41 pmThey wouldnt go after someone wrongly after all
https://mobile.twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1296564025988386816
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 7:43 pmThe president of the police association in Minneapolis says 1500 businesses were severely impacted and $500M in damage caused by the mostly peaceful protestors.
In his opinion, the Democrat Party has declared war on law enforcement in the large, Democrat-controlled cities of America.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 8:17 pmGovernor Walz(D) of Minnesota… he has not rescinded his endorsement of this out-of-control corksoaker…
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/08/unity-event-canceled-due-to-threats-of-violence.php
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 8:30 pmI didn’t say “they”, 1DM, I said Manafort. One person.
Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:09 pmNote also that I didn’t say that Manafort committed treason, because treason has a specific constitutional meaning. Nevertheless, when it’s probable that when you know that the person you’re passing internal polling data to is a Russian spy, you’re betraying your country. Manafort betrayed the United States of America by helping Putin.
Hes a businessman doing deals with weber or podeata who actually did the lobbying steele worked for the same business partner, he hired some drunk russians and passed it off as intelligence. What a farking waste of everybodys time.
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:17 pmNice spin. Manafort would’ve been in deeper sh*t had Kilimnik not fled Ukraine into Putin’s warm embrace. The big “crime” that Weber and Podesta committed was not registering under the FARA.
Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:22 pmIf you examine every lobbyist on k street, how many do you think are dodging taxes, he was targeted because he worked for trump, for the evil job of delegate selection.
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:27 pmLook what we have here,
https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1297006077586935808
Apparently these guys didnt see anything wrong with him.
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:29 pmIt’s an established fact that the Russians hacked the DNC (and did many other things) to help elect Trump.
Read the Republican Senate Report:
Why you feel the need to deny any of this is beyond me.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:36 pmJust garbage, the dems have been russian enablers in word and deed going back to the 70s, dodd and biden preeminent Among them
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 9:40 pmhttp://ace.mu.nu/archives/time%20machine.jpg
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:01 pmNow thats interesting what would have happened in marx life had been shortened, more to the point how about lenins. Dulles could have done the world a great favor by not going for the mixed diubles tennis date and having the swiss authorities apprehending hinm
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/21/2020 @ 10:23 pm#145. You are wrong Paul, you have no idea what you are talking about. Paul Manafort did no damage whatsoever to this country. I have spent my entire life dealing with national security issues. You are making crap up. Note that he was not indicted for any damage he supposedly did to this country and you cannot show any. He was convicted of tax and bank fraud, not for passing damaging information to the Russians. You would have been perfectly at home with China’s Red Guards enforcing the cultural revolution for crime think.
1DaveMac (4cc9b4) — 8/22/2020 @ 6:24 amAll Al Capone was indicted for was tax evasion, too.
nk (1d9030) — 8/22/2020 @ 6:27 amHah, they hired a real russian spy to lecture them
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 6:29 amhttps://mobile.twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1296928180872380416
The Obama Administrations policies toward Iran did far more real damage to the United States than anything Paul Manafort could hope to do. Free trade policies toward China have done far more damage to the United States. If you want to focus on betrayal of the country, focus on the policies that allow foreign nations to do real actual damage.
1DaveMac (4cc9b4) — 8/22/2020 @ 6:36 amUnserious people dave, the media grills general flynn while letting moles from china and russia the run of the place
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 6:39 amChina’s actions against the United States are much more sophisticated, far more effective and far more dangerous than anything the Russians are doing. “But Russia interfered in our elections”. This is ridiculous, how many votes did they influence, 50? 100? China’s ongoing propaganda and influence over our media, Hollywood, Colleges and Universities and the Democratic Party are a Clear and Present Danger. It is a shame that people on this site are so focused on trivial issues while ignoring the real existential threats.
1DaveMac (4cc9b4) — 8/22/2020 @ 6:48 amSo have they had him undersurveillance xonsidering hes been spying for more than 20 years
https://mobile.twitter.com/WylieNewmark/status/1297017239418404864
Bolivar di griz (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 6:49 amExternal Threats to the U.S. :
1. China
2. Iran
3. N. Korea.
4. Islamic extremists.
I
1DaveMac (4cc9b4) — 8/22/2020 @ 7:00 amit’s like the legion of doom
https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/21/democratic-national-convention-donna-hylton-convicted-murderer-kidnapping-thomas-vigliarolo/
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 7:06 am161… yes, and a useful idiot in at least one case.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/22/2020 @ 7:20 ameven the russians would embarassed though,
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1295934744165679104.html
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 7:49 amManafort wasn’t a lobbyist, he was a political consultant and campaign advisor to dictators who worked for a pro-Putin political party in Ukraine and pro-Putin president who was responsible for mass killing in the Maidan.
Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/22/2020 @ 8:44 amAs for Weber and Podesta, as I recall Podesta worked for Hillary and he lost his business after the election. How was Podesta “targeted because he worked for Trump”?
he lobbied for ukraine, and savimbi and marcos and the saudis,
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/08/npr-hatemongers-and-antifa-media-elite-kenneth-r-timmerman/
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 9:07 amthey didn’t even touch him, even though he lobbied for russians nuclear arm, and one of the most corrupt russian banks,
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 9:08 ammight as well not happened,
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/curtis-houck/2020/08/21/russia-obsessed-nets-ignore-former-green-beret-charged-spying
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 9:14 amjust dial it to eleven, and poof
https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/08/biden-2020-dnc-speech-ratings-fell-short-of-hillary-2016-by-21-percent/
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 9:51 amThe GOP senate nominee in Oregon is another QAnon fruitcake.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/22/2020 @ 9:57 ambeing you are fusion flakes consumers,
https://streetwiseprofessor.com/california-boom-boom-out-go-the-lights/#comments
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 10:00 amAnd a new conspiracy theory is born! (h/t Drudge)
Trump calls FDA part of ‘deep state’ & accuses drug administration of slow-walking vaccine tests until after election
That’s the problem with miracles, isn’t it? So damn unpredictable!
Dave (1bb933) — 8/22/2020 @ 10:09 amNo, you’re wrong, 1DM, and I’m making nothing up. Manafort wasn’t indicted for criminal conspiracy because Mueller didn’t have sufficient evidence, in part because Manafort lied and stonewalled, and a key witness–the indicted Kilimnik–fled to Russia. The internal polling data reportedly included information on Wisconsin, Michigan, PA and Minnesota, three of which Trump happened to win by narrow margins, and this is straight from the Mueller report.
Manafort literally gave a Russian spy Trump’s battle plan for beating Hillary. If were at war Russia, Manafort should’ve gotten a lethal injection for treason.
Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/22/2020 @ 10:52 am#175 None of that does any damage to national security except in your fevered imagination.
1DaveMac (4cc9b4) — 8/22/2020 @ 11:23 amFever dreams, Paul.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/22/2020 @ 11:35 amserious oleander, coronello, as you see from the various links relating how gospodin debbins got away with espionage and propaganda for nearly 20 years, that we know of,
bolivar de gris (7404b5) — 8/22/2020 @ 11:41 amThat’s your opinion, 1DM. Aiding a Russian spy to help Putin get his preferred candidate is exactly a national security problem, and it’s exactly why there was an FBI counterintelligence investigation.
Noted, that you feel directly from the Mueller report is “fever dreams”.
Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/22/2020 @ 11:56 amTypo.
Paul Montagu (11948b) — 8/22/2020 @ 11:57 am…feel that quoting directly…