Trump Elated By Comparison To King of Israel
[guest post by Dana]
After Rep. Ilhan Omar suggested that aid to Israel should be reconsidered after not being allowed to make a planned official visit with Rep. Tlaib because of the congresswomen’s public advocacy for the boycott of Israel, Trump made a jarring comment:
“I can’t even believe that we’re having this conversation. Five years ago, the concept of even talking about this — even three years ago — of cutting off aid to Israel because of two people that hate Israel and hate Jewish people. I can’t believe we’re even having this conversation,” Trump fumed.
“Where has the Democratic Party gone? Where have they gone where they’re defending these two people over the state of Israel? And I think any Jewish people that vote for a Democrat — I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty, alright?”
As we discussed briefly in the comments, it’s a little bit difficult to ascertain exactly who Trump thinks the Jews would be being disloyal to because his thought process is, well, difficult to follow at best. However, Phillip Klein has a good examination of the president’s “disloyalty” comment and why it is troubling:
Was he talking about disloyalty to America? Disloyalty to Trump? Disloyalty to Israel? Disloyalty to Jews? No matter which way one wants to interpret this comment, it’s sickening coming from an American president — all the more bizarre coming as he has been unleashing a barrage of attacks on Tlaib and Omar for anti-Semitism.
Among the litany of anti-Semitic remarks made by Tlaib and Omar, the most horrific involved accusations of dual loyalty (see background here and here). Accusations of dual loyalty have been at the center of anti-Semitic attacks on Jews for centuries. Yet here is Trump throwing out the “disloyalty” charge.
One potential interpretation is that he was suggesting it would be disloyal to Israel to vote Democrat. But American Jews are first and foremost American, not Israeli. Suggesting that Jewish votes should be determined primarily by U.S. policy toward Israel is in fact to suggest divided loyalties.
If he was trying to say Jews would be disloyal to their faith by voting Democrat, he needs to shut right the heck up, because he is in no position to criticize somebody’s relationship to their faith.
As a conservative, I have found it difficult to get behind Trump despite supporting a number of his policies, and a big reason why is the manner in which he speaks about many minority groups. He has up to this point avoided turning his wrath on Jews, but given his history of flipping on people he views as “disloyal,” his comments make me wonder what would happen if, as is most likely, Jews overwhelmingly vote against him despite his pro-Israel policies. Is there a point at which American Jews essentially become the next Anthony Scaramucci?
As a result of his remarks receiving criticism, conspiracy theorist and Newsmax TV host Wayne Allyn Root pushed back in support of Trump:
“I happen to be Jewish by birth and 75% of all Jews vote Democrat, and they don’t like Trump,” Root said Tuesday. “This is the greatest president for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world. Not just in America, Trump is the best president for Israel in the history of the world. And the Jewish people love him like he is the King of Israel. They love him like he is the second coming of God.”
“In America, American Jews don’t like him,” he continued. “They don’t even know what they’re doing or saying anymore. It makes no sense. But that’s okay. He keeps doing what he’s doing. He’s good for all of us. Good for Jews, good for blacks, good for gays.”
“He is good for everyone in America who wants a job,” Root finished.
This morning, unsurprisingly, Trump enthusiastically retweeted Root’s comments:
“Thank you to Wayne Allyn Root for the very nice words. “President Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world…and the Jewish people in Israel love him….
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 21, 2019
Some of Wayne Allyn Root’s conspiracy theories involved the suggestion that Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Hillary Clinton, Donna Brazile, Bill Clinton, etc. were involved in the murder of Seth Rich, falsely claiming white supremacist James Alex Fields Jr. who killed Heather Heyer was a paid actor hired by Soros, and that the mass shooting in Las Vegas was a coordinated Muslim terror attack.
(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)
–Dana
Remember how we mocked Obama devotees for the he-parts-the-seas-walks-on-water-second-coming nonsense? Good times.
Dana (fdf131) — 8/21/2019 @ 9:34 amI don’t know what all the hullabaloo is about. I read Trump to mean disloyalty to the Jewish people.
So let’s ask — if a Jew supports wiping Israel off the map, and supports spreading blood libel against the Jewish people (““Much of the chatter and gossip about historical Jewish blood rituals in Europe are real and not fake as they claim; the Jews used the blood of Christians in the Jewish Passover.”) — then that Jew can fairly be described as disloyal to the Jewish people. That is what Tlaib and Omar support.
Now the interesting thing to me is not the disloyalty part, but the first part of what Trump said: “it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty.” (Of course, much of the media left out the first part and just jumped to the second part. Can’t trust the media, ever.)
So the question is, what facts does Trump claim Jews are ignorant of, that if they knew, they would either abandon support of the Democratic party, or then be considered disloyal?
To me, the facts are (a) Tlaib and Omar are spreading anti-semitism and trying to destroy Israel (see above) and (b) the Democratic party is behind them, condemning, for example, the decision to exclude them from their trip (Nancy Pelosi, certainly a leading Democrat, expressing sadness at that decision).
Bored Lawyer (998177) — 8/21/2019 @ 9:46 amPresident Trump is the greatest President for Jews and for Israel in the history of the world, not just America, he is the best President for Israel in the history of the world.
So, according to Root, Trump is better for Israel than Chaim Wiezmann? Or (since “nasi” is the Hebrew equivalent of “president”) than this guy?
kishnevi (0c10d1) — 8/21/2019 @ 9:46 amhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judah_ha-Nasi
(b) the Democratic party is behind them, condemning, for example, the decision to exclude them from their trip (Nancy Pelosi, certainly a leading Democrat, expressing sadness at that decision).
that’s highly disputable, at the least. There are more than a few conservative Israelis who think that Netanyahu made the wrong decision. It’s also highly disputable that the Democrats as a whole actually support Tlaib and Omar’s program.
And as I said last night, support for Israel is important, but it’s not the only thing.
kishnevi (0c10d1) — 8/21/2019 @ 9:57 am“Jesus Christ is the true King. I’m just an entertainer.” — Elvis A. Presley
JRH (52aed3) — 8/21/2019 @ 9:57 amTrumpkinim veln zeyn Trumpkinim.
nk (dbc370) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:02 amJust in time! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku42Iszh9KM
Colonel Haiku (47d8f4) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:05 amSo … are they going to be singing “Noel” on June 14 at the White House? At Root’s house?
nk (dbc370) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:06 amWell in the context of the canaanite tlaib, wiuld somalia be comsidered kush
Narciso (222325) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:10 amAh it is, sudan would be nubia
Narciso (222325) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:14 amI think the term “disloyalty” is a loaded term..
But, this is Trump being that Bull in the China Shop.
Furthermore, it’s interesting that the media/left jump on Trump on this with vigor… yet, that same vigor is absent whenever Thalib/Omar makes obvious anti-semitic remarks.
Because of that… Trump supporters aren’t interesting in joining in the dogpiles like this.
whembly (fd57f6) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:22 amHosanna in excelsis
nk (dbc370) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:23 amVenit aurantium
Hosanna in excelsis
Auranti edit nihil nisi bonum!
nk (dbc370) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:27 amBored Lawyer said it well.
NJRob (ad1b1f) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:32 amWell, this God thing has clearly gone to his head:.
Dana (fdf131) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:36 amIf you suppose infinity, you suppose a condition in which an infinite number of situations exist, not once, but an infinite number of times. So, conceivably, an infinite number of Trumps are the kings of an infinite number of Israels. Could we send ours to one of them?
nk (dbc370) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:45 amDang… Trump’s trolling big time there.
He can’t help himself.
whembly (fd57f6) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:45 am@4 that’s highly disputable, at the least.
I don’t agree.
There are more than a few conservative Israelis who think that Netanyahu made the wrong decision.
The conservative Israelis who think he made the wrong decision think so because they don’t want to offend the powers that be in the U.S., not because they wanted to welcome Tlaib and Omar with open arms. That is an understandable position for them – not for the Democratic leadership.
It’s also highly disputable that the Democrats as a whole actually support Tlaib and Omar’s program.
You are moving the goal posts. In the two party system we have in this country, not everyone in each party supports everything that anyone in the party supports. That is normal. But if someone is a member of your party, and especially if you express support of them, then you are saying that their views and behavior are acceptable to your party, at least within the range of acceptable, even if debated.
Tlaib and Omar support economic warfare against Israel (BDS); they went to Israel listing “Palestine” as their desitination; they planned to meet with terrorist groups, but not Israeli officials; their trip was sponsored by an organization that has promoted blood libels and terrorism.
And then the Democratic Speaker of the House and the Democratic Minority Leader of the Senate strongly criticize that decision and supported the two Congresswomen’s trip.
So, yeah, they may not support their “program” but they are clearly considered respected members of the party.
And as I said last night, support for Israel is important, but it’s not the only thing.
This is true, but again, you are moving the goal posts. It is not “support for Israel” but “support for those who want to destroy Israel and spread anti-semitism in the process.” One is within the range of acceptable debate, the other isn’t. (or that is how it should be).
As someone posted somewhere, if Steven King had planned to travel to Germany to meet with Neo-Nazis, and had listed “The Future Fourth Reich” on his itinerary, and Germany had refused him entry, the reaction here among Republicans would have been very different. As it should be.
Bored Lawyer (998177) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:55 amMeanwhile those on the left continue their demonization of those evil white men
https://lidblog.com/cnns-angela-rye/
NJRob (ad1b1f) — 8/21/2019 @ 10:56 amThat’s not how parties work, or people, hence in districts that Hillary won, Republican’s also won, and vice versa. It’s a party not a suicide pact.
You’re not just moving the goalpost, you’re changing the sport, stadium, and planet. Donald Trump is president of the United States of America, that is not Israel, I seem to remember a guy talking about something to the effect of Make America Great Again. Tlaib isn’t President, she is one of 535 voices on the hill, in fact, one of the least important ones.
Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:06 amHe’s the Chosen One, so no.
He’s a jealous Trump and we shall have no other Trumps before him.
It would be sacrilege against everything that’s good, holy and orange.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:10 am@20 — The fact that districts swing both ways is not relevant to my point.
When David Duke ran for governor (or maybe Senator), President Bush (the first) publicly disavowed him. That was a clear statement that his views were not acceptable to the Republican party, of which he was then leader. Even if that meant a Democrat got the slot.
I am aware that Trump is the president, and of the U.S. not Israel. Until now, it was considered beyond the pale for a Congressperson to spread the views that these two have. Now it isn’t.
This is aptly called the Corbrynization of the Democratic party. Some are not bothered by it. Others are. Trump is right to call them out on it, even if he remains a narcisstic buffoon.
Bored Lawyer (998177) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:15 amHe’s a jealous Trump and we shall have no other Trumps before him.
Please God we will have no other Trumps.
Bored Lawyer (998177) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:22 amI wonder if Jr. has interest in politics.
whembly (fd57f6) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:27 amBut that’s the catch.
No universe is large enough to contain *two* of his egos.
Thus, sending our Trump to another universe is only possible if we accept *their* Trump in return.
The laws of physics can be a real bitch sometimes.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:34 amProbably Eric may have the best chance. Jr. will probably shoot his derek off on safari and Javanka is too squishy to make it out of a primary (although Tiff probably could win a district in CA).
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:40 amThus, sending our Trump to another universe is only possible if we accept *their* Trump in return.
Alternate-universe Trumps.
The mind boggles.
Bored Lawyer (998177) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:41 amTrump “I love israel ;but hate jews who won’t vote for me!”
lany (c6457e) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:44 amTime to insert a bit of a joke
(Originally seen on Facebook)
The USPS issued a stamp honoring Trump.
Mysteriously, most of the stamps would not stay stuck to the envelope. Naturally, this sparked the Wrath of Trump, and the appropriate investigators investigated.
Their conclusion;
Kishnevi (9fada9) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:55 amNothing was wrong with the stamps.
The problem was that most people were spitting on the wrong side of the stamp when putting it on the envelope.
Disloyalty vs. diss-royalty.
“I’m King of the elevator!” – Peter Ramsay [Tony Randall] ‘Lover Come Back’ 1961
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2019 @ 11:56 am#2… does say it well. Enemies (and some allies) say or do things that are anti-Semitic, or anti-American and neither the Democrats or the MSM ever call them out on it. They are okay with it, or best case, say some weak, meaningless twaddle in pushback. The majority of the American people are sick to death of it. And it is going to cost the Democrats, as it has already cost the MSM, who are too stupid to give a fig.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2019 @ 12:12 pm“Disloyal” is a poor word to describe it. Jews who support cutting off aid to Israel are perhaps reckless though. Never know when you’ll need that refuge, and suggesting that no Jew needs that refuge is fairly self-centered and parochial.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 8/21/2019 @ 12:27 pmHuh, weird. It’s almost like what you said is only true if your memory is REALLY short. https://patterico.com/2019/07/10/aoc-pelosi-explicitly-singled-out-newly-elected-women-of-color/
Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 8/21/2019 @ 12:30 pmhttps://www.npr.org/2019/02/11/693480995/house-democrats-urge-party-leaders-to-condemn-anti-semitism
Stephen Miller
harkin (d17996) — 8/21/2019 @ 12:34 pm@redsteeze
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@IvankaTrump
Dad’s telling people he’s Jesus.
__ _
“I built a little empire out of some crazy garbage
Called the blood of the exploited working class
But they’ve overcome their shyness
Now they’re calling me Your Highness
And a world screams, “Kiss me, Son of God”
I destroyed a bond of friendship and respect
Between the only people left who’d even look me in the eye
Now I laugh and make a fortune
Off the same ones that I tortured
And a world screams, “Kiss me, Son of God”
I look like Jesus, so they say
But Mr. Jesus is very far away
Now you’re the only one here who can tell me if it’s true
That you love me and I love me…”
I know, too easy.
JRH (52aed3) — 8/21/2019 @ 12:36 pmTHIS IS CNN… CNN’s Angela Rye says that white men who criticize Tlaib and Omar are the “Greatest Terrorist Threat”.
https://lidblog.com/cnns-angela-rye/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2019 @ 12:45 pm“No the media aren’t openly rooting for a recession or inventing fake stories to manipulate public opinion and meddle in elections, why do you ask?”
https://twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1164221665858838528
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2019 @ 12:51 pm33… the Dems couldn’t even pass a resolution that states Omar’s name.
As for Omar… Gayle King followed up if she had any regrets for those remarks.
“I do not, but I am grateful for the opportunity to really learn how my words have made people feel and take every opportunity I have to make sure people understand that I apologize for it,” Omar added.
She said she was “certainly not” antisemitic.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2019 @ 1:03 pmMy Trump stamps are peel and stick.
steveg (354706) — 8/21/2019 @ 1:10 pmProblem is that he insisted his stamp be bigger than the envelope
32, Kevin – good comment. But just as likely in back of head might be “Why are _________ so enthusiastically supporting the homeland…are they gonna ship us back?” You can use that mental geometry on Trumpian support of the HBCUs (why…..are they gonna deny us spots at Austin, Gainesville, Chapel Hill and make us go to Prairie View, FAMU and NC A&T instead).
urbanleftbehind (5eecdb) — 8/21/2019 @ 1:21 pmDemocrats – and a few RINOs – consistently promote and advance policies that disadvantage American citizens they claim to represent.
States like California, Maryland, Florida and Texas, just to name a few, offer in-state tuition for those who have entered the country illegally.
In California, the average cost of in-state tuition and fees is $ 9,680 vs. $ 32,590 for out-of-state tuition. So, an American citizen parent living in Nevada must pay over three times as much tuition for his kid than that of a person who is not even a citizen. How/why in the world is that even possible?
In sanctuary cities like Los Angeles and San Francisco, if an illegal immigrant is serving a prison sentence for murder, ICE will put a detainer request in so that when he completes his time he can be deported. But since this murderer is locked up in a sanctuary city, the police don’t honor the detainer. So the murderer is released to possibly commit more crimes wherever he lands. That doesn’t happen if an American citizen is in jail -let’s say for example- for a drug charge and wanted in another jurisdiction for an unrelated crime. Before he is released from jail, the authorities will call the neighboring jurisdiction to see if they want to pick him up on charges related to their jurisdiction.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2019 @ 1:23 pmAmerican citizens are not the subjects of ICE detainers. The treatment of people wanted for crimes is identical, regardless of citizenship or status. Illegal presence is a civil offense, not a crime, and a detainer issued by an ICE bureaucrat does not have the legal force of an arrest warrant issued by a judge.
It would make sense to provide an enforceable mechanism for deporting people in this situation, but the current law simply doesn’t have one.
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2019 @ 1:44 pmeven when she’s away she makes you pine for her:
https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2019/08/20/i-dont-know-what-antifa-is-democratic-candidates-asked-on-camera-to-denounce-terrorist-group/
narciso (d1f714) — 8/21/2019 @ 1:51 pmAllahpundit:
Dave (1bb933) — 8/21/2019 @ 1:52 pmTrying to imagine the reaction of certain posters here if Obama (who they decried as a narcissist) had called himself “the chosen one”.
Davethulhu (fab944) — 8/21/2019 @ 1:55 pmAlso trying to imagine the reaction of these same posters (who wouldn’t shut up for years about some school kids singing an Obama song) had some group claimed he was “King of the Jews”.
Davethulhu (fab944) — 8/21/2019 @ 1:57 pmstill cheering the bashing of ngo, squid,
narciso (d1f714) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:04 pmHell I still remember when they freaked out cause Clinton didn’t know how to salute. Expecting consistency from certain partisan quarters is futile.
JRH (52aed3) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:07 pmyes, that never happens anymore,
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/scott-whitlock/2019/08/21/cbss-king-obamas-netflix-deal-celebrates-our-core-values-human
now Viacom run by a king learesque character from succession, might have some impact,
narciso (d1f714) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:14 pm“Trump has been strongly pro-life, strongly pro-American, strongly pro-Israel, strongly pro-capitalism, and he has pushed back against the freedom-robbing regulatory state. He cut taxes and he left evangelicals alone. He didn’t sue the nuns. He doesn’t want our guns.”
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:20 pm“still cheering the bashing of ngo, squid,“
GFY narciso, I said no such thing.
“yes, that never happens anymore,”
So, it’s only bad when Democrats do it? What argument are you making?
Davethulhu (94520c) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:23 pmthis is what one faces, every morning of every day, they tongue the cabal so severely they probably have a case of mono, scarborough, speaks confidently of rope where there have been hangings,
narciso (d1f714) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:27 pm“Trump has been strongly pro-life, strongly pro-American, strongly pro-Israel, strongly pro-capitalism, and he has pushed back against the freedom-robbing regulatory state. He cut taxes and he left evangelicals alone. He didn’t sue the nuns. He doesn’t want our guns.”
Mmm, mmm, mmm
Davethulhu (94520c) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:27 pmTHIS IS CNN… CNN’s Angela Rye says that white men who criticize Tlaib and Omar are the “Greatest Terrorist Threat”.
Very convincing. Any American of any race who hears that now knows that CNN employs unhinged people.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:29 pmas you see from cbs, they are nearly all that way,
narciso (d1f714) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:33 pm“Why are _________ so enthusiastically supporting the homeland…are they gonna ship us back?”
Hmmm. My wife is Jewish. If she or I got the impression that any administration wanted to ship all the Jews to Israel (see Heinlein, “Bad Luck”), I think we’d be glad Israel was there, and I truly doubt that any regime that had it in for the Jews would be keen on Israel in the first place.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:33 pm“GFY narciso, I said no such thing.”
Unfair, Cthulhu, narciso is not a cephalopod.
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:40 pmIn California, the average cost of in-state tuition and fees is $ 9,680 vs. $ 32,590 for out-of-state tuition. So, an American citizen parent living in Nevada must pay over three times as much tuition for his kid than that of a person who is not even a citizen. How/why in the world is that even possible?
That Texas does this as well should give you a clue. It’s not about citizenship — not everything is — it’s about residence. It is a reasonable assumption that no non-criminal long-time resident will ever be deported, and that most younger illegals will become legal at some point soon. Tell me you disbelieve this (as opposed to “dislike this”).
Thus, the state reasonably assumes an individual who can get into a university will be a taxpayer for a long time and is investing in their later earnings power. An individual in Nevada doesn’t pay taxes in CA, so there’s no advantage there.
“Tell Michael it was nothing personal.”
Kevin M (21ca15) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:41 pmElizabeth Warren proves once and for all she’s 100% white…
https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-elizabeth-warren-goes-full-elaine-at-rally-with-an-awkward-dance-to-aretha-franklins-respect/
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2019 @ 2:54 pmI’m more marsupial, heh,
narciso (d1f714) — 8/21/2019 @ 3:03 pm58… if a state’s taxpayers are bearing the burden of this subsidy, has this generous subsidy been put up for a vote in the states that support this?
Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/21/2019 @ 3:06 pmWell this is weird, but she was gonna get snapped up by somebody anyway…a reversal from the small dude-BBW couples I would see buying houses and pickup trucks in the mid-00s. Needs to challenge rotting seafood in a different district, though:
urbanleftbehind (b4f934) — 8/21/2019 @ 3:11 pmhttp://www.foxnews.com/media/pro-trump-immigrant-and-dreamer-is-running-for-congress-as-a-republican
‘Gotta condo-made-a-stone-a’ – King Trump.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYbavuReVF4
DCSCA (797bc0) — 8/21/2019 @ 3:16 pmif a state’s taxpayers are bearing the burden of this subsidy, has this generous subsidy been put up for a vote in the states that support this?
Well, the legislature approved it, and they are elected by the People. You could quibble here, but not everything the state does is voted on by the People directly, NOR SHOULD THEY BE. The People are far more interested in which movie star is banging which other movie star than to consider the benefits of legislation. It may be that the legislators are all crooks and the People should be electing better ones, but I very much doubt they would do better with 100 referendums every election.
Kevin M (21ca15) — 8/21/2019 @ 6:19 pmThe startling part of Mr. Root’s comment is the blasphemy he spoke as a three-quarters Jews, talking about a “second coming of God”. I’m not deeply versed in Jewish traditions, but I’m pretty sure they’re still waiting for that first coming of God.
Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 8/21/2019 @ 7:00 pmEr, not 75% Jewish but Jewish by birth.
Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 8/21/2019 @ 7:01 pmA good point from Ms. Weiss:
Paul Montagu (a2342d) — 8/21/2019 @ 7:49 pm