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8/11/2019

Questions continue about Epstein’s Prison, Guards, Death

Filed under: Crime — DRJ @ 4:22 pm



[Headline from DRJ]

Daily MailThe two prison guards who failed to check on Jeffrey Epstein every 30 minutes were both ‘working long overtime shifts at the understaffed jail’ on the night he killed himself, sources claim:

Ttwo prison guards at Jeffrey Epstein’s Manhattan jail who reportedly failed to follow procedure and check on prisoners every 30 minutes were both working long overtime shifts the night the pedophile took his own life, a source has revealed.

The former financier, 66, was found hanging in his prison cell shortly before 7am and was rushed to nearby New York Presbyterian-Lower Manhattan hospital where he was pronounced dead.

A prison official told The New York Times  one of the guards was working his fifth straight day of overtime at the short staffed jailhouse while the second corrections officers was had been forced to work overtime.

So we may have tired and unhappy guards. There’s more:

The decision to remove Epstein, who was possibly the most high-profile inmate in the federal jail system, from suicide watch has both baffled former wardens and veterans of the federal prison system alike. 

A separate source revealed to DailyMail.com that Epstein actually told prison guards and fellow inmates that he believed someone had tried to kill him in the weeks before his death.

— DRJ

48 Responses to “Questions continue about Epstein’s Prison, Guards, Death”

  1. Epstein will be cremated by morning.

    mg (8cbc69)

  2. This epstein drama started over a decade ago, it will be still going in another decade.
    DOJ is useless.

    mg (8cbc69)

  3. Gee, all these mistakes and at the worst time. Just bad luck – no doubt.

    Hopefully, Barr will get to the bottom of it.

    rcocean (1a839e)

  4. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/11/nyregion/epstein-death-manhattan-correctional-center.html

    Mr. Epstein was supposed to have been checked by the two guards in the protective housing unit every 30 minutes, but that procedure was not followed that night, a law-enforcement official with knowledge of his detention said.

    In addition, because Mr. Epstein may have tried to commit suicide three weeks earlier, he was supposed to have had another inmate in his cell, three officials said. But the jail had recently transferred his cellmate and allowed Mr. Epstein to be housed alone, a decision that also violated the jail’s procedures, the two officials said….

    The law-enforcement official with knowledge of the investigation said that when the decision was made to remove Mr. Epstein from suicide watch, the jail informed the Justice Department that Mr. Epstein would have a cellmate and that a guard “would look into his cell” every 30 minutes.

    But that was apparently not done, the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the death was still under investigation.

    Or, apparently, thay stoped dong that 100%% of the time.

    But where did he get the material to hang himself, or what did use, and has it absolutely been conformed that that is what happened?

    Sammy Finkelman (d41c9f)

  5. Barr couldn’t find the bottom of a hooker on parole.

    mg (8cbc69)

  6. wink-wink nudge-nudge.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  7. The explanation for this is probably a lot more prosaic than people are inclined to assume, and the explanation for Jeffrey Epstein’s death is probably a lot like this:

    The entire jail was not run in accordance with the rules, and it hasdd been run for so long in violation of the rules, that it was quite impossibl to run it in a decent way and follow all the rules.

    There wasn’t enough money in the budget, not even close; and there weren’t enough people working there and maybe they weren’t paid enough to recruit and retain full staffing

    And if suddenly, someone had decided to follow all the rules, not on;y would big failures immediately start to happen, but the person running it would not only be exposed as having broken rulees or laws till then, or, if this person was new, all the people under him or her., bt the jail would stop functioning in any passable way.

    Now some of what the jail was doing or not doing sometimes came under scrutiny or pressure, mostly from court supervision, which happened because of the inmates’ lawyers. (most of the people kept under these conditions had well paid lawyers) The jail couldn’t actually meet all the conditions that pertained to their confinement, so they contrived to keep the inmates happy and out of court in other ways, like allowing John Gotti to order steaks in return for him not raising other issues.

    But Jeffrey Epstein did not instruct his lawyers to do everything they could to prevent him from committing suicide.

    He instructed them to do whatever they could to get him out of jail; cost was no object. But they failed, and they likely told him there were no prospects for success.

    Which meant he was likely to stay in jail for the remainder of his life, or until he got sick.

    They still did something maybe, and he was removed from the most intolerable conditions of the suicide watch on July 29, while technically still on it in some way. But then there came a day when it wasn’t easy to always comply with the new protocol – there was no ttrustworthy inmate to put in the same cell with him, so they left him alone for a night, and to do that without breaking a rule (it had never been a rule that there was alwwas supposed to be someone else in the cell ith him, just a promise or explanation to DOJ) they changed the protocol. It was maybe not the first night he hadn’t been actually actively watched by a guard, but that wasn’t necessary until then, since there was the second inmate..

    Jeffrey Epstein simply tried to kill himself at the first opportnity after his motions in court to be let out on bail had all been ruled against. The first time he did not scceed, bt he succedded in the second.

    The big question is: Was there always this possibility, or did somebody have to do him some favor in order for that to be possible? Nothing has been said about what ekse, if anythung, was in he cell, or how exactly he is supposed to have hanged himself or even relly that that;s what he did.

    If the jail is to be reformed, people must be allowed to be honest about what has beeen going on, wthout suffering any penalty.

    Sammy Finkelman (d41c9f)

  8. I wonder how Maxwell will kill herself?

    mg (8cbc69)

  9. Only Jeffrey Epstein wanted to kill himself, because he faced life in prison, and maybe no sex.

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  10. Sammy,

    That’s an awful lot of speculation with precious few facts. Lots of people didn’t do their jobs and because of that, many evil people will escape punishment.

    NJRob (4d595c)

  11. Pre-trial detention is not at all about preserving the prisoner’s rights to life, liberty and due process. It is all about thawing him out and trimming him for the meat grinder.

    nk (dbc370)

  12. NJ ROb @ 11

    That’s an awful lot of speculation with precious few facts

    It’s just logic. This is the kind of way things could work.

    It could be, that if one of my facts turned out to be wrong,I’ll throw up a somewhat different complicated explanation.

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  13. I wonder if your chances of being killed by the clintons is greater than being killed by a machine gun?

    mg (8cbc69)

  14. Look for those overworked guards to retire soon to their own Caribbean hideaways.

    Eric (e057f2)

  15. They really were overworked, and that’s a management problem.

    In the end, there were two things stopping Jeffrey Epstein from killing himself:

    1) A guard was supposed to look into his cell approximately every 30 minutes (but not strictly according to a timetable.)

    2) There was another inmate in his cell. But he got transferred out of that section of the rison on Thursday.

    Epstein must have stayed awake one night and confirmed the guards weren’t checking. (They were probably relying on the inmate who was in his cell, and the other guard, but they both were probably sleeping.)

    Without that inmate the whole thing fell apart. The warden didn’t put someone else in because by that time Jeffrey Eopstein’s lawyers had convinced him the crisis was over, and now he was more worried a fellow inmate might harm him. Or maybe there just wasn’t tiem to replace him on Thursday, and the requirement for acellmate was removed.

    They’re not telling us how he actually killed himself, but i one oprison an inmate used his short and a drain.

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  16. right, so how many other prisoners were left unguarded, it couldn’t have just been him could it?

    narciso (d1f714)

  17. Epstein saved taxpayers lots of $$, by cowardly checking out of life. He never wanted to
    Wanted to play by the rules,& clearly was mentally ill; a pedophile. This
    Situation shows the dangers & inadequecies of this prison. Holding a prisio er
    for the court & for his many victims clearly egregiously failed.
    He was a sick individual & even beat the system in prison.

    Concierge (c27c93)

  18. “Only Jeffrey Epstein wanted to kill himself, because he faced life in prison, and maybe no sex.”

    Oh, there probably would’ve been more sex than he could handle…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  19. Consider the possibility that the guards wanted him dead. Perhaps they knew he’s commit
    suicide & provided that opportunity to him; no one watching him, no
    cellmate at the time. Perhaps he was able to bribe them to leave him alone
    in exchange for a quid pro quo: $$. Were his lawyers in on this suicide?
    Money can get favors; he’s proven this for years. Where could he get
    What he needed to carry out his nefarious & fatal, selfish
    act? A guy who was formerly imprisoned there,
    said there is no way he could’ve done this. The world is better off without this evil, sick
    this evil & sick monster. I hope his victims can still get justice.

    Concierge (c27c93)

  20. so were the other prisoners who were left unattended, it just defies belief,

    narciso (d1f714)

  21. 19 – Hah!…gotta hold back from the obligatory American Me and Bloid In/Blood Out memery.

    urbanleftbehind (81c49b)

  22. 22… Órale… entonces…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  23. It’s been reported several places that there were no cameras looking into Epstein’s cell, but only in the hallways, so there would be no video of exactly what happened (although there would be video indicating if and when any of the two guards who were supposed to walked uo to his cell, and looked in.)

    But Preet Bharara, the former US Attorney of the Southern District of New York did not know this!

    For he tweeted on Saturday, the day the news first broke: (less than 4 hours later)

    https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/1160229624191827969

    Preet Bharara
    @PreetBharara

    There should be — and almost certainly is — video of Epstein’s suicide at MCC. One hopes it is complete, conclusive, and secured.

    9:41 AM – 10 Aug 2019

    He had to learn how the Suicide Prevention Program worked vs a s removal from the Special Housing Unit, too:

    https://twitter.com/PreetBharara/status/1160211039864197121

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  24. Is Boll and Branch the sheet of choice?

    mg (8cbc69)

  25. There is audio (maybe video) of the guards coming upon Epstein looking passed out and saying: “Breathe, Epstein, breathe.”

    He was most likely dead for up to several hours by that time, because nobody had looked into his cell for that length of time.

    But they obviously didn’t want to face up to it so they took an hour maybe to take him to the hospital, where he was, little doubt, dead on arrival.

    A spokesman or official of the union that represents the guards at hat jail says they were working an average of 60 hours a week, if I got that right (the implied word average, not the 60 hours) Some of them must have been glad to grab the overtime, but some had to be put on mandatory overtime.

    The FI staged a raid on his private island today.

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  26. The FBI staged a raid… complete with racy speedboats… would’ve thought they would have done this a while ago… what… did they have trouble lining up babysitters?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  27. Epstein may have been mudered by his prior X-NYPD cellmate of whom
    he allegedly feared, or murdered by someone else. He knew
    that tons of incriminating documents about wealthy, high profile
    people, allegedly involved in his sick sexual games, had just been released.

    Plenty of people suddenly had motive to have him murdered. Epstein was toast
    After the release of these documents. Corruption exists
    both inside & outside of prison! The guards aren’t likely to admit someone was murdered due to them not doing their job. Understaffing and overtime hours are no excuse. The judge and
    & the victims rely on prison guards doing their job. This will be a movie, no doubt.

    Concierge (c27c93)

  28. 28. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 8/12/2019 @ 4:40 pm

    The FBI staged a raid… complete with racy speedboats… would’ve thought they would have done this a while ago… what… did they have trouble lining up babysitters?

    No, they probably had trouble tinking of everything to include in he search warrant. If they missed something, maybe they thought Jeffrey Epstein would order it destroyed. But now that won’t happen because he’s dead.

    Or maybe they thought now that he’s dead, the people there won’t be afraid to destroy it, or they’ll be going looking through his things, hunting for a will, or maybe writing one.

    And then there’s the question did he follow any part of his idea, or claimed idea, to get 20 women pregnant at one time?

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  29. 29. Concierge (c27c93) — 8/12/2019 @ 5:22 pm

    Epstein may have been mudered by his prior X-NYPD cellmate of whom he allegedly feared,

    how is tha possible, when he was ransferred out more than 24 hours before? You think the people running the prison ould be lying, and he was there inside with him?

    He knew that tons of incriminating documents about wealthy, high profile people, allegedly involved in his sick sexual games, had just been released.

    Released to the public, but it was always there in court. And most of it was heard somewha before. And all of it it seems came from one person, who claimed that Jeffrey epstein sent her to other men, every one of which ahs denied not only physical contact withh her, but even being in the same location. And it included even a retraction of a claim that Bll Clinton had visisted the orivate island Jeffrey Epstein owned.

    Now for those who want to say he decided suddenly to commit suicide, having this opublicized could be amotive. But there’s every reason to think it’s all lies. The whole notion that Jeffrey Eostein sent any women to other men is, I think, a BIG LIE that doesn’t make any sense. That;s not why some people were close to him. It was proably money, or the hope of money. I really didn;t like it how the newspapers treated those allegations almost as fact.

    Plenty of people suddenly had motive to have him murdered.

    There was nothing new in them. There was no credible evidence that any of this happened. And if someone suddenl;y had amotive, they coudn';t act on it in one day (unless they had laid all the plans but were holding off on carrying it out.

    This will be a movie, no doubt.

    It’s too soon to make a movie, and nobody has any idea exactly what really happened with Epstein during his life. It could be a few movies, made for TV, if they still are going to do that any more.

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  30. 100% sure woody allen and sidney blumenthal slipped into the Federal lockup and strangled Epstein to death wtih their bare hands and then made it look like a suicide. They escaped in sperm costumes

    https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/woody-allen-as-a-sperm-in-a-scene-from-the-film-every-thing-news-photo/159836603

    steveg (354706)

  31. Who dares deny photographic evidence such as this?

    steveg (354706)

  32. The B’Nai B’rith is on my list of suspects, since you mentioned Woody Allen. They can’t possibly be happy with pervs like Allen, Polanski, Weinstein, Weiner, Schneiderman, et al, making Jews look bad, and Epstein was the worst of the bunch. Like “enough is enough”.

    nk (dbc370)

  33. People ask about whether Epstein was Jewish. Epstein was Jewish – his parents were secular Jewws, and so was Weinstein, but Larry Nassar wasn’t.

    There are all sorts of questions people have about Epstein. One person told me his brother said he was married. I don’t know where that came from. He appears to have no next of kin. He didn’t have children and he didn’t have a wife. Unlike Michael Jackson, he didn’t feel a necessity to look more like a regular human being for public consumption – he just wanted to keep out of the news.

    Although he reportedly had this idea once of impregnating 20 women at one time. I guss it would be more efficient that way – he could use the same doctors.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html

    He hoped to seed the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his vast New Mexico ranch.

    Mr. Epstein over the years confided to scientists and others about his scheme, according to four people familiar with his thinking, although there is no evidence that it ever came to fruition.

    Now there are people who want to get ready for DNA tests in case a claimant to the estate comes forward.

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  34. Based in that New York Times artivle:

    (Years ago) Jeffrey Epstein had all kinds of famous scientists in his debt:

    Mr. Epstein attracted a glittering array of prominent scientists. They included the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Murray Gell-Mann, who discovered the quark; the theoretical physicist and best-selling author Stephen Hawking; the paleontologist and evolutionary biologist Stephen Jay Gould; Oliver Sacks, the neurologist and best-selling author; George M. Church, a molecular engineer who has worked to identify genes that could be altered to create superior humans; and the M.I.T. theoretical physicist Frank Wilczek, a Nobel laureate.

    The lure for some of the scientists was Mr. Epstein’s money. He dangled financing for their pet projects. Some of the scientists said that the prospect of financing blinded them to the seriousness of his sexual transgressions, and even led them to give credence to some of Mr. Epstein’s half-baked scientific musings.

    He had started out teaching mathematics and physics at Dalton.

    He hosted scientists at dinner parties in Manhattan. He invited them to “salons and coffee klatsches” where he would hold forth. Steven Pinker, Martin Nowak, and Lawrence Krauss were there. Stephen Pinker told the New Yorl Times that Epstein was an “intellectual impostor” and that “He would abruptly change the subject, A.D.D.-style, dismiss an observation with an adolescent wisecrack.”

    Jaron Lanier, “a founder of virtual reality” said he once put forth the idea “that atoms behaved like investors in a marketplace.”

    He sponsored conferences in the Virgin Ialands. He gave some of them treats, like a trip aboard a submarine that he chartered. (one of those aboard the submarine was Stephen Hawking.

    At least nobody is saying they associated with him for sex.

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  35. The New York Post reports that Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide using abedsheet. It was tied to the upper level of a bunk bed and he had to bend his knees because he was so tall. I think Epstein must have researched this over ten years ago – the first time he was prosecuted.

    The AP reported that one of his guards the last night was not a correctional officer at all, but someone who worked at the jail in some other capacity – maybe a clerical worker or a teacher.

    Epstein was on “special observation status” Both guards were supposed to (independetly?) check on him an average of every 30 minutes.

    I don’t understand why they didn’t just put their chair(s) in front of his cell.

    They (the media) don’t really know why there wasn’t another prisoner in his cell. He was supposed to be immediately replaced if he was not going to spend the night in the Special Housing Unit of the jail. But I think maybe they just took Epstein off that status. Two days before Epstein;s lawyers had said he was getting sed to being in jail. He was meeting with them 12 hours a day. I think he conned them too.

    In addition to “Breathe, Epstein, breathe” various kinds of yelling was recorded. They took im first to the prison infirmary.

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  36. Dang! Big Bang Theory ended too soon to explore the multi-episode arc that could have been based off of post #36.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  37. Col Haiku: (7 in Russian nuclear thread(

    DOJ reassigns warden at MCC pending investigation…

    So maybe something is starting. But they can’t make the warden the scapegoat.

    In fact things might get worse. Because it is probably impossible not to operate that institution without violating the rules, and the questions is which rules should give way.

    Of course the warden probably got fooled by Epstein’s lawyers, who in turn werefolowe by thier client.

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)

  38. https://nypost.com/2019/08/13/why-was-jeffrey-epsteins-death-on-4chan-before-it-became-public

    Before The Post broke the news of Jeffrey Epstein’s death, it was posted to online message board 4chan — prompting the FDNY to probe whether one of its paramedics leaked the details.

    The user made a series of six posts beginning at 8:16 a.m. Saturday — around 40 minutes before news of the convicted pedophile’s death broke.

    “[D]ont ask me how I know, but Epstein died an hour ago from hanging, cardiac arrest. Screencap this,” the first post reads…..

    ….The FDNY launched a probe into the incident but said that the messages were not posted by one of its own.

    “The FDNY reviewed the alleged information and determined it did not come from the Department,” said FDNY Deputy Press Secretary Myles Miller in a statement.

    Dr. Keith Wesley, who has authored EMS textbooks, said the language in one of the posts “sounds like standard American Heart Association guidelines, which most EMS agencies use,” according to BuzzFeed News.

    “If one of the medics posted this separately that’s a breach of protocol,” Wesley told the outlet. “If there was identifying information on the patient, that is a violation of Federal [HIPPA] law.”

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  39. Jeffrey Epstein himself may be resoponsible for this idea floating around that people saw him to get sex:

    James B. Stewart, author of “Den of Thieves” and other books, was invited to Jeffrey Epstein;s house ayear ago next Friday “on background,” (meaning he could use the information, or should I say disinformation, as long as he didn’t attribute it to him. He now considers it to have lapsed with his death.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/business/jeffrey-epstein-interview.html

    The Day Jeffrey Epstein Told Me He Had Dirt on Powerful People

    … I initially walked past the building, on East 71st Street, because it looked more like an embassy or museum than a private home. Next to the imposing double doors was a polished brass plaque with the initials “J.E.” and a bell. After I rang, the door was opened by a young woman, her blond hair pulled back in a chignon, who greeted me with what sounded like an Eastern European accent.

    I can’t say how old she was, but my guess would be late teens or perhaps 20. Given Mr. Epstein’s past, this struck me as far too close to the line. Why would Mr. Epstein want a reporter’s first impression to be that of a young woman opening his door?

    The woman led me up a monumental staircase to a room on the second floor overlooking the Frick museum across the street. It was quiet, the lighting dim, and the air-conditioning was set very low. After a few minutes, Mr. Epstein bounded in, dressed casually in jeans and a polo shirt, shook my hand and said he was a big fan of my work. He had a big smile and warm manner. He was trim and energetic, perhaps from all the yoga he said he was practicing. He was undeniably charismatic.
    Before we left the room he took me to a wall covered with framed photographs. He pointed to a full-length shot of a man in traditional Arab dress. “That’s M.B.S.,” he said, referring to Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. The crown prince had visited him many times, and they spoke often, Mr. Epstein said.

    He led me to a large room at the rear of the house. There was an expansive table with about 20 chairs. Mr. Epstein took a seat at the head, and I sat to his left. He had a computer, a small blackboard and a phone to his right. He said he was doing some foreign-currency trading.

    Behind him was a table covered with more photographs. I noticed one of Mr. Epstein with former President Bill Clinton, and another of him with the director Woody Allen. Displaying photos of celebrities who had been caught up in sex scandals of their own also struck me as odd.

    …{he said] he was “radioactive.” ….it didn’t stop people from visiting him, coming to his dinner parties or asking him for money. (That was why, Mr. Epstein told me without any trace of irony, he was considering becoming a minister so that his acquaintances would be confident that their conversations would be kept confidential.)

    If he was reticent about Tesla, he was more at ease discussing his interest in young women. He said that criminalizing sex with teenage girls was a cultural aberration and that at times in history it was perfectly acceptable. He pointed out that homosexuality had long been considered a crime and was still punishable by death in some parts of the world.

    he wentthere because he ahd heard that Jeffey Estein was advising Elon Musk about what to do because of his tweet about a merger. He said they’d deny it.

    He said people told him their secrets because he was considered so much worse than they were, so anything they confessed to him was nothing. (!??)

    Here is the quote, from nearthe beginning of the article:

    The overriding impression I took away from our roughly 90-minute conversation was that Mr. Epstein knew an astonishing number of rich, famous and powerful people, and had photos to prove it. He also claimed to know a great deal about these people, some of it potentially damaging or embarrassing, including details about their supposed sexual proclivities and recreational drug use.

    He said people in Silicon Valley were hedonistic and regular users of recreational drugs and he’d witnessed prominent tech figures taking drugs and arranging for sex. He said he’d spoken to the Saudis about possibly investing in Tesla, “but he wouldn’t provide any specifics or names. When I pressed him on the purported email from Mr. Musk, he said the email wasn’t from Mr. Musk himself, but from someone very close to him. He wouldn’t say who that person was.”

    About a week after that interview, Mr. Epstein called and asked if I’d like to have dinner that Saturday with him and Woody Allen. I said I’d be out of town. A few weeks after that, he asked me to join him for dinner with the author Michael Wolff and Donald J. Trump’s former adviser, Steve Bannon. I declined. (I don’t know if these dinners actually happened. Mr. Bannon has said he didn’t attend. Mr. Wolff and a spokeswoman for Mr. Allen didn’t respond to requests for comment on Monday.)

    Several months passed. Then early this year Mr. Epstein called to ask if I’d be interested in writing his biography. He sounded almost plaintive. I sensed that what he really wanted was companionship. As his biographer, I’d have no choice but to spend hours listening to his saga. Already leery of any further ties to him, I was relieved I could say that I was already busy with another book.

    That was the last I heard from him….

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  40. From the Washington Post the otehr day, courtesy of Morning Jolt:

    E.O. Young, the national president of the Council of Prison Locals C-33, said that while cameras are prevalent in the facility, he did not believe they generally captured inmates’ cells.
    ….Before the incident, Epstein had a cellmate: Nicholas Tartaglione, a former police officer in custody on murder and narcotics charges. But Young, the national union president, said Epstein was in a cell alone immediately before his death.

    Young said he was not certain why Epstein was in the cell alone, as the Federal Bureau of Prisons has moved recently to make sure fewer inmates are housed on their own. He said there was some speculation after the July 23 incident that Epstein was trying to get away from Tartaglione, whom he feared, and he believed that, at least for a time, Epstein had another cellmate after coming off suicide watch.

    Young asserted that in the jail’s general population, Epstein also probably would have been a target and that there was only so much officers could do to prevent him from harming himself.

    But Young said, even in Epstein’s case, correctional officers face a grim reality.

    “We can’t ever stop anyone who is persistent on killing themselves,” Young said. “The only thing the bureau can do is delay that.”

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  41. since Epstein was connected to wexner, maybe this might explain some things,

    http://fraudbusterbob.org/blog/2010/03/09/bob-bytes-back-archive-71698-the-shapiro-murder-file/

    narciso (d1f714)

  42. Shortly before his death:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/07/business/wexner-epstein.html

    Leslie Wexner Accuses Jeffrey Epstein of Misappropriating ‘Vast Sums of Money’

    ….For over 15 years, Jeffrey Epstein served as a close personal adviser to Leslie H. Wexner, the billionaire mogul behind Victoria’s Secret and Bath & Body Works. Now, Mr. Wexner says Mr. Epstein “misappropriated vast sums of money” from him and his family.

    Mr. Wexner, the chief executive of the retail giant L Brands, included the accusation in a 564-word letter he sent Wednesday to the Wexner Foundation, giving his most detailed account yet of how his life and affairs became intertwined with Mr. Epstein, who was arrested last month and charged with sex trafficking involving girls as young as 14.

    In the letter, Mr. Wexner said the misappropriation was first discovered in 2007 as he separated from Mr. Epstein….

    …“It was agreed that he should step back from the management of our personal finances,” Mr. Wexner said in the letter. “In that process, we discovered that he had misappropriated vast sums of money from me and my family. This was, frankly, a tremendous shock, even though it clearly pales in comparison to the unthinkable allegations against him now.”

    …..“I first met Mr. Epstein in the mid-1980s, through friends who vouched for and recommended him as a knowledgeable financial professional,” Mr. Wexner wrote in the letter to the foundation. “Mr. Epstein represented that he had various well-known and respected individuals both as his financial clients and in his inner circle. Based on positive reports from several friends, and on my initial dealings with him, I believed I could trust him.”

    That trust included a so-called power of attorney, which enabled Mr. Epstein to hire people, sign checks, buy and sell properties, and borrow money — all on Mr. Wexner’s behalf.

    Mr. Wexner defended his decision to give Mr. Epstein power of attorney, calling it “common in that context” and saying, “He had wide latitude to act on my behalf with respect to my personal finances.”

    ….In the letter sent Wednesday, Mr. Wexner said he had been “able to recover some of the funds” that he said were misappropriated by Mr. Epstein. That included a transfer of about $46 million worth of securities from C.O.U.Q. and a Virgin Island business controlled by Mr. Epstein to a foundation run by Mr. Wexner’s wife, Abigail Wexner, according to tax documents.

    Mr. Wexner pegged that sum as a “portion of the returned monies.” “All of that money — every dollar of it — was originally Wexner family money,” he added.

    “I am embarrassed that, like so many others, I was deceived by Mr. Epstein,” he wrote. “I know now that my trust in him was grossly misplaced, and I deeply regret having ever crossed his path.”

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  43. Jeffrey Epstein had a brother, Mark, who appears to be wealthy. (The plaintiffs suingg Jeffrey Epstein think he could be hiding some of Jeffrey’s money)

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/wealth-of-jeffrey-epsteins-brother-is-also-a-mystery-11565607148?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=2

    The brothers are linked financially through a 200-unit condominium on Manhattan’s Upper East Side once owned by Jeffrey Epstein’s most lucrative client, retail magnate Leslie Wexner. The company that bought the building in the early 1990s is a former affiliate of J. Epstein & Co., Jeffrey Epstein’s investment firm, real-estate records and New York state filings show. Mark Epstein was once listed in corporate records as president of that company.

    Asked to discuss his financial interests and how they intersected with his brother’s, Mark Epstein, 65 years old, declined. “I don’t have time to talk about it and I don’t see any purpose in talking about it with anybody,” he told The Wall Street Journal on Thursday.

    The Journal also sent him a list of questions, which he declined to answer. In a subsequent email, Mr. Epstein said: “As a private independent businessman I don’t feel the need to share any of the information.” In email messages sent after his brother died, he declined to comment.

    Mark Epstein told Crain’s New York Business in an article last month that he bought the 16-story condo building on East 66th Street from Mr. Wexner based on a tip from his brother in the early 1990s….

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  44. From that same link:

    One of Epstein’s guards at the Metropolitan Correctional Center on the night he died was reportedly not a regular corrections officer.

    Nothing to see here, folks. Just move along.

    nk (dbc370)

  45. 44. This exact thing wasn’t posted. I heard it a number of times on TV.

    My guess is that the shrieking was of people who worrked at the jail who discovered he was unresponsive,

    As for using other jail employees to fill in as guards, that was routine, I read:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/12/nyregion/epstein-barr.html

    A New York Times investigation published last year detailed this practice, under which federal prisons are so strapped for correctional officers that they regularly compel teachers, nurses, secretaries and other support staff members to step in. The practice has grown at some prisons as the Trump administration has curtailed the hiring of correctional officers.

    Many of these staff members only receive a few weeks’ training in correctional work, and, while required by contract to serve as substitutes, are often uncomfortable in the roles. Even workers who previously held correctional positions have said that the practice was unsettling because fewer colleagues were on hand to provide backup if things turned ugly.

    It’s so routine to draft people as guards, it’s in the union contract!

    Now this place was a jail, not a prison, but here is the earlier article:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/us/prisons-safety-substitute-guards.html?module=inline

    Safety Concerns Grow as Inmates Are Guarded by Teachers and Secretaries

    I still don’t see why somebody didn’t move a chair right next to his cell.

    Jeffrey Epstein making preparations to kill himself might have woken this person up, or he’d have been afriad to attempt it that night..

    Sammy Finkelman (324ec1)


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