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7/17/2019

President Trump Supporters Chant “Send Her Back” At NC Rally

Filed under: General — Dana @ 8:00 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Earlier today, President Trump was leaving the White House today to attend a rally in North Carolina and a reporter asked him about the alleged claims that Rep. Ilhan Omar illegally married her brother so that he could gain American citizenship:

Reporter Emerald Robinson asked the president “if the administration was looking into possible immigration fraud committed by Ilhan Omar for possibly marrying her brother.”

“Well, there’s a lot of talk about the fact that she was married to her brother. I know nothing about it,” Trump said.

“I hear she was married to her brother. You’re asking me a question about it. I don’t know, but I’m sure there’s somebody who will be looking at that,” he added.

Rep. Omar has denies that her husband at the time was her brother, yet questions remain:

The accusation surfaced again as part of a recent investigation of state campaign finance violations stemming from her successful 2016 run for the Minnesota House. Documents released in that probe showed that Omar filed federal taxes in 2014 and 2015 with her current husband, Ahmed Hirsi, while legally married to but separated from Ahmed Nur Said Elmi.

Although she has legally corrected the discrepancy, she has declined to say anything about how or why it happened, fueling questions about the nature of her relationship with Elmi, a British national.

Omar has long denounced the allegation that Elmi is her brother and dismissed media inquiries about her marital history. “Whether by colluding with right-wing outlets to go after Muslim elected officials or hounding family members, legitimate media outlets have a responsibility not to fan the flames of hate,” her spokesman said in a recent statement to the Star Tribune. “Continuing to do so is not only demeaning to Ilhan, but to her entire family.”

At tonight’s rally, the president sensed an opening and railed about the four Democratic congresswomen who were the targets of his incendiary tweets this past weekend, which in turn lead to the Democratic-led House vote to condemn his remarks:

Trump used the 2020 campaign rally in Greenville, North Carolina, to attack Omar and three other Democratic congresswomen – Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ayana Pressley of Massachusetts and Rashida Tlaib of Michigan – calling them “hate-filled extremists”.

In what was reminiscent of the “lock her up” chants made by Trump supporters during the presidential campaign rallies, supporters followed tonight’s attacks on Omar, an American citizen, with an updated version of the chant:

… President Donald Trump resumed his rhetorical assault on four freshman Democratic women lawmakers Wednesday at a re-election rally in Greenville, N.C.

“These left-wing ideologues see our nation as a force for evil,” Trump said of Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., and Rashida Tlaib, D-Mich. Later, he said they are helping to “fuel the rise” of a “dangerous, militant hard left” — connecting them to violence by the group Antifa, even though there is no link.

On Wednesday, he chided Tlaib for calling him a “motherf—-er” — “that’s not somebody that loves our country,” he said — blasted Ocasio-Cortez for referring to squalid, overcrowded migrant detention facilities on the U.S.-Mexico border as concentration camps, and Pressley for encouraging people of color to speak up for one another. He also accused Omar of being soft on terrorism.

“Omar laughed that Americans speak of al Qaeda in a menacing tone,” he said. “You don’t say America with this intensity. You say al Qaeda makes you proud. Al Qaeda makes you proud. You don’t speak that way about America,” he added, referring to her remarks in a 2013 interview.

The crowd broke into a chant of “Send her back!”

This is a full clip of his comments focusing on Omar. You can start at the 3:38 mark for the shorter version:

Following a tweet in which Omar linked to a report about Trump’s rally tonight, Omar tweeted this :

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

83 Responses to “President Trump Supporters Chant “Send Her Back” At NC Rally”

  1. Just wow.

    Dana (bb0678)

  2. Curious to know if Trump supporters here are okay with the chant? More curious if you’re okay with President Trump’s obvious encouragement and approval?

    Dana (bb0678)

  3. and Pressley for encouraging people of color to speak up for one another

    False. Her actual words were:

    We don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice. We don’t need black faces that don’t want to be a black voice. We don’t need Muslims that don’t want to be a Muslim voice. We don’t need queers that don’t want to be a queer voice.

    IOW, if you are brown or black, she gets to decide what your opinions are and whether you may speak or not. That is the definition of racism.

    She is bad, as are the other three. Trump is right to excoriate them, even if he does so in his usual crude, boorish manner.

    As I said here before. Trump is the middle finger candidate (now the middle finger President).

    A middle finger is rude and crude, and I would smack my kid for using it. But sometimes you need to use it.

    Bored Lawyer (423ce8)

  4. Trump is the middle finger candidate (now the middle finger President).

    A middle finger is rude and crude, and I would smack my kid for using it. But sometimes you need to use it.

    I’ve never heard him described quite like this.

    Dana (bb0678)

  5. “I’ve never heard him described quite like this.”

    Feel free to repeat it. No need to quote me. Just a small royalty payment. 😉

    Bored Lawyer (423ce8)

  6. Trump is the Thumb Up His Own A** President. Everything he does, he does uselessly, and for his own gratification (despite his pathetic and transparent denials of that obvious reality).

    Stop defending this… thing. It is unbecoming of any self-respecting person to defend this … thing. Pathetic.

    Leviticus (777271)

  7. IOW, if you are brown or black, she gets to decide what your opinions are and whether you may speak or not. That is the definition of racism.

    I must be missing the part where she says she gets to decide what your opinions are and whether you may speak or not.

    Also, what you describe is hardly “the definition of racism” (and “queer” is surely not a race…).

    I think it can be interpreted as “We don’t need xxxx who won’t stand up for xxxx rights, etc”. It is an attack on apathy and a call for people to become politically engaged.

    There’s no question that it’s identity-based politics, and her unspoken assumption is clearly that all members of group X share common goals (and need to unite to achieve them).

    But there is absolutely nothing novel in her what she says or how she says it. It is standard retail politics.

    If somebody at CPAC exhorted the crowd “We don’t need businessmen who don’t want to be a pro-business voice! We don’t need gun owners who don’t want to be a second amendment voice! We don’t need pro-lifers who don’t want to be a pro-life voice!” would you call that racism too?

    Dave (1bb933)

  8. What’s interesting is that it’s now a signature move for Trump to bring out the worst in his supporters at these rallies by tapping into their resentments and exploiting them. And supporters see this as a win.

    Dana (bb0678)

  9. I’ve never heard him described quite like this.

    “Yes, on November 8, you Joe Blow, Steve Blow, Bob Blow, Billy Blow, all the Blows get to go and blow up the whole goddamn system because it’s your right. Trump’s election is going to be the biggest ‘f*ck you’ ever recorded in human history and it will feel good.”
    – Michael Moore; October 26, 2016

    Dave (1bb933)

  10. I’ve never heard him described quite like this.

    Dana (bb0678) — 7/17/2019 @ 8:42 pm

    You must be joking.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  11. Clowns to the left of me, schiff disturbers to the right

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. This fascist display is utterly appalling. These people must lose, or we are heading to the Fourth Reich. Trump is not just a racist, his ideology is white nationalism. He believes that the United States is a white country, created for whites and only for whites. I am sure of it.

    Ayana Pressley was taking about tokenism. Inclusion is more than just having Black and Brown tokens at the table. These people must have a voice, must defend their communities against the rise of white nationalism. If anybody sees anything racist in that, they are no better than the Nuremberg hillbillies at this disgusting rally.

    Jasperjava (f647ff)

  13. Solidarity Now!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  14. You mean serenity now, seeing as she said at the netroots conference and how social media has been very diligent at deplatforming it’s not a suggestion

    Narciso (09b0bf)

  15. By this time tomorrow, he’ll be fact-checked enough so we’ll know most of his expellations came from his a$$. Oh, and anytime he uses the word “sir”, it’s a lie. One of his tells.

    Paul Montagu (dbd3cc)

  16. You puts so much trust in fact check, it’s just another list serve of approved opinion.

    Narciso (09b0bf)

  17. I saw that article about the “sir” thing.

    It’s pretty amusing, but what they missed is that anytime he *doesn’t* use the word “sir,” it’s a lie too.

    Dave (1bb933)

  18. “Trump is the middle finger candidate”

    But what exactly does it accomplish…any of it? It just keeps ratcheting down the quality of discourse….bringing out the worst in people. The governing mood is that of a second grader having a perpetual temper tantrum. I’ve never been more embarrassed by our “leaders”…and our media…than by the current state. I really do think our democracy is failing…as we swing from one shade of paralysis to another.

    AJ_Liberty (165d19)

  19. Ilhan Omar turns my stomach as much as Trump. Can we send them both back?

    nk (dbc370)

  20. We must dissolve the people, and elect another in their place, were half way there, in the UK they are 3/4.

    Narciso (09b0bf)

  21. Trumpism, making McCarthyism Great Again: the term is used to broadly denote demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents.

    It shouldn’t be surprising, McCarthy’s pocket gay was also Trump’s, Roy Cohn.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  22. “the term is used to broadly denote demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents.”
    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c) — 7/17/2019 @ 9:42 pm

    Who knew McCarthyism and pee dossier were synonyms?

    Munroe (0b2761)

  23. Roy Cohn passed when knight rider was still on the air,

    Narciso (c67b88)

  24. Look at that CSPAN image; is that matching naugahyde or genuine Corinthian leather?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  25. Its about about time free speech works both ways. Love that crowd. Those Americans are the people that will save this country. Letting these congressional ingrates spew their rhetoric without pushback is threatening to hard working taxpayers. Don’t like us. GTFO. Losers.

    mg (8cbc69)

  26. Chant aside, no trumpers would have found something else to mope about.

    mg (8cbc69)

  27. I think we know the most common insult racists shout to minorities in America. Well, if it isn’t “GO BACK TO WHERE YOU CAME FROM”… it will be now.

    noel (e07fb0)

  28. “An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that BarackObama’s birth certificate is a fraud” and “I have people that have been studying [Obama’s birth certificate] and they cannot believe what they’re finding”

    Who said these things and why?? That’s right…. same old sh*t, different day.

    noel (e07fb0)

  29. If dog-molesting trailer-trash shout “Send her back” and you are not a Fifth Avenue fancy boy who was almost certainly buggered by Roy Cohn, do they make a sound?

    nk (dbc370)

  30. That’s funny, nk. But Roy Cohn was hired to cover his arse, not inspect it.

    noel (e07fb0)

  31. I think we know the most common insult racists shout to minorities in America – noel (e07fb0) — 7/18/2019 @ 5:35 am

    What do you mean by “we?”

    felipe (023cc9)

  32. Felipe. What do you mean by “What do you mean by “we”?”

    noel (e07fb0)

  33. I live a thousand miles from the South but we are starting to see Confederate flags pop up around here over the last year or two. Could be a coincidence, I suppose.

    noel (e07fb0)

  34. You livin’ in Lynyrd Skynyrd fan country, son?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  35. If you’re gonna call me “son”, you’d better be ninety five years old.

    noel (e07fb0)

  36. Felipe, Noel is not accusing you personally of uttering/writing racial epithets, hell you might have heard far worse directed at you, you simply chose not to let it bring you down or define your politics.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  37. I live a thousand miles from the South but we are starting to see Confederate flags pop up around here over the last year or two. 

    That is interesting. I don’t want to pressure you but can you tell me the region you live in?

    DRJ (15874d)

  38. Just kidding. Not that old. But made ya think!

    I am talking about seeing these flags in three states near here in just the last year. Lynyrd Skynyrd fans? Probably.

    noel (e07fb0)

  39. 1,000 from the South puts you in the northern most tier of states (that also applies out west, if you count 1860s AZ and NM then-territories as confederate territory) – and thats not using Kentucky or MO as a touchstone. Southern IA and southern OH was copperhead territory as well.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  40. The White House is exactly 1,000 miles from Mar A Lago.

    nk (dbc370)

  41. I have seen the flags only recently in these states I have traveled for many years. The three, in this case, are Michigan, Iowa and Minnesota.

    noel (e07fb0)

  42. Actually, Tipper Gore has a lot of the blame – for seeing the Stars and Bars up north. Her PMRC crusade in the mid-1980s hastened the decline of traditional 3-chord rock bands (by demonizing metal and metal/glam-inspired acts), resulting in an opening for country music to be the default music for non-urban, non-RB and HipHop-friendly northern white kids. Grunge and later Nu-Metal were the last gasps.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  43. Oh Canada…

    mg (8cbc69)

  44. Why didn’t Trump take a moment to educate his audience and remind them that, although Omar’s political views and views of America are reprehensible, we don’t deport American citizens. That’s just ignorance revealing itself. Fight her on the merits of her ideas and policies using the options available. Succumbing to childishly ignorant taunts just makes his supporters look dumb, and again reveals that the president is always willing to exploit such ignorance if it sells the Trump Brand.

    Dana (b79858)

  45. Laura Loomer, lol.

    Seriously, I think a brother-sister marriage would not carry much traction with most of Trump’s base. Which is not to say that it would not “arouse” them.

    nk (dbc370)

  46. Since three of the four women were born in America, “send them back” smells a lot like racism to me.

    noel (e07fb0)

  47. Ancient Greeks thought it hot, did they not?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  48. #2 Curious to know if Trump supporters here are okay with the chant? More curious if you’re okay with President Trump’s obvious encouragement and approval?

    Dana (bb0678) — 7/17/2019 @ 8:29 pm

    I’m okay with it.

    Just like “Lock her Up!” chant, its obviously a cheeky expression (or hilariously inappropriate) meant to poke at the target (and the US media).

    Hell, even first generation immigrants elucidate as much. Please check out this twitter thread:
    https://twitter.com/burntoutcase/status/1151676269920169985?s=11

    Burnt-Out Case (@BurntOutCase)
    7/17/19, 9:13 PM
    Guy Benson is a well educated upper class White liberal so this chant is offensive to him because it to him smacks of racism. I am a brown first gen immigrant from India and I completely understand the sentiment behind the chant. Let me explain in this thread

    whembly (fd57f6)

  49. #4 Trump is the middle finger candidate (now the middle finger President).

    A middle finger is rude and crude, and I would smack my kid for using it. But sometimes you need to use it.

    I’ve never heard him described quite like this.

    Dana (bb0678) — 7/17/2019 @ 8:42 pm

    That’s precisely how I view him…

    whembly (fd57f6)

  50. Ancient Greeks thought it hot, did they not?

    Only the gods.

    nk (dbc370)

  51. I think that will be teen vogue’s new thing, after encouraging hooking as a gig.

    Narciso (c67b88)

  52. The Ptolemies, too. Although technically they were a Macedonian family following Egyptian customs.

    Kishnevi (b66096)

  53. @25. Might wanna check your EEOC handbook on that- the phrase ‘Go back to where you came from’ is cited as an example of discrimination. If any of those Carolina bumpkins said that on the job, they’d be fired.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  54. @42. He doesn’t read books; what makes you think he reads maps?

    Oh, right– pictures.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  55. I keep coming back to this. Was she married to her brother and was it done to deceive the immigration system? If so, I guess it worked but it is beyond stupid to put yourself in the public arena with that in your background.

    DRJ (15874d)

  56. #58… we don’t know for sure. However, this is shades of Obama-birtherism so I hope everyone learned that lesson to have a healthy dose of skepticism. (snikers)

    But, lying on your immigration papers is literally grounds, albeit rarely, for deportation. Can’t imagine that it’d go that far if it were true that she lied. She’s now in the elite power circle, so it’s likely she’ll get a slap on the wrist.

    whembly (fd57f6)

  57. As the tweet shows, racists are made, not born. Thank you, Donald.

    Paul Montagu (dbd3cc)

  58. Oh my.

    Our Captain has thrown the engines of the ship of state into reverse twice within an hour to disavow that chanting.

    Sorry, sir; the tow line has been cut.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  59. On that note -56, DCSCA, my DuPage County paisas claim a skull.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  60. Nobody has the nads to storm Washington in that way – the better parallel is if a blue dog/DNC/old guard had some tapes lying around where they talk ill of their other coalition mates.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  61. @62. Well, there you have it.

    If there are any criminal charges/conviction to come, there’s always the presidential pardon list. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  62. of course I see cortez’s sister in mindset, mayor yulin, in organizing some of this, some of that relief money went to the Gillum campaign, natch,

    narciso (d1f714)

  63. Many remarks above regrettably- but predictably- drip with open disdain for those “Carolina bumpkins.” People who work, raise families, obey the law, pay taxes, -those people. They think they have a country, with black, white and Hispanic whoever you are, as long as you support the US. They love supporting someone who isn’t going to flee to the Romney Decency Lounge when they need him.

    But “some” (to borrow a NYT term) mistakenly believe that there is a common set of “decency” rules in these political debates, that the bumpkins just don’t see. (They’re bumpkins, right?). As if they and the bumpkins haven’t been demeaned by the left in the last 45 years. The difference is that the “bumpkins” know it. But “some” pretend they don’t see it. They’ve submitted to decades of being consensually mau-maued, and still feel they know what the “rules” are.

    The post-Reagan GOP allowed schools to become Howard Zinn academies; states and cities to become illiquid debtors. The GOP was called racist and inhuman. “Some” pretended they didn’t hear or see all that. They abandoned the voters, preferring to be polite at the expense of the bumpkins. So the voters turned out in droves in 2016 for someone who wouldn’t abandon them.

    Does anyone think that citizens or legal residents will be sent back to Somolia? No. Would they want that for the Squad? No-it would be impermissible-they’re US citizens. “Send her back” is simply “love it or leave it,” again. It expresses their vigorous support of the US. Its harmless. But its also a harbinger–the bumpkins don’t defer to the “decency at your expense” group anymore.

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd (6b1442)

  64. @67. All virtues voided– when they act like bumpkins.

    History can rhyme but ‘Send her back’ ain’t ‘love it or leave it.’ Unless one has the mindset of a bumpkin.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  65. See? Its easy! “People who don’t agree with me are bumpkins!” (Or deplorable).

    PS: Who is the bumpkin?: (a) self-adulatory people out-foxed by Candy Crowley and a community organizer no one had ever heard of before; or(b) law abiding people who chant “send her back!,” before going home to sleep before going to work? (I guess it depends on who you like in “Caddyshack.”)

    Harcourt Fenton Mudd (6b1442)

  66. @69. See- no, you don’t see; it’s not a matter agreeability. It’s a matter Bohunk McBumpkin’s brain-dead chanting and good’ol boy racism. D

    o it at work and y’all can be fired. See #56 & #62.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  67. o it at work and y’all can be fired. See #56 & #62.

    Which is an unconstitutional violation of the First Amendment with the government forcing the employer to impose speech codes which the government could never impose directly, and what has the orange bumpkin-panderer done about it in two-and-a-half years? Bupkes, that’s what he’s done about it, bupkes!

    nk (dbc370)

  68. @71. Take it up w/t EEOC– and that cashier who got canned.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  69. But, but, but, the EEOC is Administrative State and Deep State and Swamp and if Mr. Donald the President also known as Trump is not going to clean it who will?

    nk (dbc370)

  70. clean it *out*

    nk (dbc370)

  71. Bupkes; bumpkins; he do know his MAGA.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  72. “Other nieces cousin:”

    Did she get a “small $1 million loan”?

    Davethulhu (bc6fa6)

  73. When exactly does one “need to use” the middle finger? Why exactly does one “need to use” the middle finger?

    What does using the middle finger do, Bored Lawyer? Do you think suddenly some progressive Democrat is going to see or hear Trump, as you aptly put it, “us[ing] the middle finger,” and say to himself and his fellows:

    Oh! Ouch, that stings! Wow, that really shook me up. I didn’t realize how foolish I’ve been until Trump used the middle finger. C’mon gang, let’s start working with Trump to make America great again!”

    I don’t see that happening. Ever. Even in 10 million parallel universes, that doesn’t happen.

    Does it get his fans wee-wee’d up? Oh, yeah. Is that what you meant? You sometimes have to use the middle finger to show your fans what a big, tough, serious guy you are?

    These are not rhetorical questions, sir. You’re a bright guy, and I’m genuinely curious why you think anyone, ever, “needs to use the middle finger” — unless it’s for rabble-rousing, rather than any sort of persuasive, constructive communication.

    Who can forget the time that George Washington flipped off Cornwallis? When Lincoln shot the finger at Jeff Davis to end the Civil War? [Okay, those were rhetorical, sarcastic questions. But please don’t let that stop you from asking my serious ones.]

    Beldar (fa637a)

  74. I keep coming back to this. Was she married to her brother and was it done to deceive the immigration system? If so, I guess it worked but it is beyond stupid to put yourself in the public arena with that in your background.

    This is one of those things that makes you go hmm, the rumor was posted on a Somali discussion page, from a deleted Instagram post, that her ex-husband called one of her children “niece”. Apparently this is similar to the Hawaiian “aunty”, among other shortcut titles, I’m “uncle” to broods who aren’t related to me. The odd thing is that Omar, and both her ex-husband, and ex-ex-husband, shared an address for time. This is much more likely a logistical issue than anything else, but it does appear that her British ex-husband and her may have been trying for some green card thing, at least while they were in college and for a period after. This all could just be nothing, or it could be something, the thing it’s probably not is “brother”.

    She’s 1 of 535 congress people, and one of the most junior, so why worry about her? She actually says things that should get her voted out of office, why look for conspiracies? It’s interesting, like Trump hanging out with Epstein, but doesn’t really mean much, like Trump hanging out with Epstein.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  75. What does using the middle finger do …?

    Oh how many times we’ve heard Trumpsters say that whatever Trump was doing or saying must be good if it “makes all the right people mad.”

    Somehow, that never impressed me as a great governing philosophy.

    Radegunda (f133c3)

  76. Who made her a star, who put them on committes, snl celebrated them, rolling stone put them on their cover, they selected themselves

    Narciso (c67b88)

  77. 79.I keep coming back to this. Was she married to her brother

    The person she was married to was most definite;y not her brother, if any of the documents she showed a reporter are correct. Her mother died when she was two and her husband was three years younger than she was. Her entire family came to the United states with her father (7 children of which she was the youngest)

    Who started this is not cleat, but perhaps she claimed to some people he was her brother because he was not the father of her children. Or perhaps people knew she had lived with him for awhile before reconciling with the father of her children.

    She took out a marriage license for her first husband in 2002 but never formally marrried him. They later separated around 2008 after she had children and she claims they divorced in their faith tradition. Which probably means there is no record of it. She then married this Somali living in the UK. He came over for two years and then they separated and he returned to Eng;and. And the father of her children may have moved back in with her.

    When in her political career this became an issue, she formally divorced the man she had formally maried and later married the father of her children.

    Sammy Finkelman (0d0ca8)


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