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2/10/2019

Gov. Northam: I Am The Moral Compass Virginia Needs. Um, Those “Indentured Servants” Might Think Otherwise…

Filed under: General — Dana @ 12:58 pm



[guest post by Dana]

Gov. Northam continues to make the case against himself even worse than it already is. Today he was interviewed by Gayle King, of all people, on CBS This Morning. During the interview, and demonstrating an utter lack of self-awareness, the governor reminded Americans that 400 years ago the state’s first indentured servants from Africa seeking better job opportunities, arrived on Virginia’s shores. He also reiterated that he would not be resigning because he is the self-ordained Moral Compass that the state of Virginia needs to heal from the gaping wound…inflicted by him and the state’s other two top executives. Dear God. If the same advisers that advised the governor to read “Roots” as part of his rehabilitation, also advised him to go on CBS This Morning, then not only should Northam moonwalk his way out of the governorship asap, but his advisers should be sacked as well. It is, at the very least, a cringe-worthy watch.

First:

Northam, a pediatric neurologist and third-term abortion enthusiast, enraged Americans after he announced support for delegate Kathy Tran’s proposed legislation which sought to remove the last remaining protections for unborn babies in the third trimester. Northam not only supported her legislation, but also talked about post-abortion births during an interview and described how babies who dared to survive a third trimester abortion would be made um, comfortable while their fate was decided by the birth-mother and doctor. After the ensuing outrage over his comments, Northam indignantly tweeted: “I have devoted my life to caring for children and any insinuation otherwise is shameful and disgusting.” And now, he claims that because he is a doctor, he is the moral compass Virginia needs…

Virginia needs someone that can heal. There’s no better person to do that than a doctor. Virginia also needs someone who is strong, who has empathy, who has courage and who has a moral compass. And that’s why I’m not going anywhere.

Best of luck, Virginia.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

76 Responses to “Gov. Northam: I Am The Moral Compass Virginia Needs. Um, Those “Indentured Servants” Might Think Otherwise…”

  1. Shouldn’t he be at home reading that really long book and essay instead of confirming what Virginians already thinks about him??

    Dana (023079)

  2. He really loves the taste of shoe leather.

    Narciso (95e707)

  3. Let’s not forget one particularly salient point here: The people of Virginia voted for this baby killer. And Kathy Tran is in office because of the Virginian electorate as well. The next time we feel inclined to complain about the performance, morality, or intelligence of elected officials (Alexandra Occasional-Cortex I’m looking at you), let’s remember how they get there in the first place.

    Gryph (08c844)

  4. He got his Cliff’s Notes mixed up there.

    I can only imagine what Gayle King said after his defense. “You are a Democrat, sir, so I agree that you must stay!”

    Patricia (3363ec)

  5. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/full-transcript-of-face-the-nation-on-february-10-2019

    …Virginia also needs someone who is strong, who has empathy, who has courage and who has a moral compass. And that’s why I’m not going anywhere…

    I think he was implying maybe, that Justin Fairfax does not have a moral compass, so he can’t resign.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  6. Beclowned physician… heal thyself…

    Colonel Haiku (467f23)

  7. If you don’t like your doctor, you can’t get rid of your doctor…

    Colonel Haiku (467f23)

  8. Here is something …strangeGovernor Northamsaid in his interview: (most of thsiw as posted oin the wrong thread)

    GOVERNOR RALPH NORTHAM: And, you know, while we have made a lot of progress in– in Virginia, slavery has ended,

    He’s treating 154 years ago as something contemporary?!

    schools have been desegregated.

    This was probably mostly done by 1970.

    We have ended the Jim Crow laws

    In 1964, the federal government put an end to them. BTW, that should be listed second, not third.

    easier access to voting.

    That’s a dog whistle. There’s a whole story behind that. That is the on;y contemporary issue.

    It is abundantly clear that we still have a lot of work to do and I– I really think this week raised a level of awareness in the Commonwealth and in this country–

    That is not true. It is also nonsense.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  9. “And that’s why I’m not going anywhere. I have learned from this. I have a lot more to learn. But we’re in a unique opportunity now. Again the 400 year anniversary of the history whether it be good or bad in Virginia to really make some impactful changes…”

    Slavery don’t “be good”… “life and death” situations with children… undoubtedly true.

    Colonel Haiku (467f23)

  10. the virginia democrat electorate’s largely composed of trashy federal employees

    this man represents them ably and well

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  11. Still no word on the who and why surrounding those connected w/that San Antonio, Tx., dance contest who not only allowed a contestant to compete in blackface, but judge’em the winner.

    ‘Speer-ited’ defense: confederate apologists; ‘good Nazis,’ all. Crosses state lines and party lines.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  12. here’s the paradox, he asks his constituents to give him and pickled herring@ the benefit of the daoubt, but he wants to lecture them about ‘consciousness’, now the chiaroscuro, is small beer compared to the way he enables the butchery of innocents, and the dr moreau category error imposed
    on private citizens

    narciso (d1f714)

  13. 14. Read his wikibio; it is an interesting mix.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  14. but why did they call him coonman

    i need to know this for so i can start the healing process

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  15. That is not true. It is also nonsense.

    Then how is it that a politician is saying it?

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  16. I Am The Moral Compass Virginia Needs

    No ego there. No sirree. Give him the One Ring so that we can all be guided by his goodness.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  17. 13, Texas is technically Confederacy, maybe more reluctantly than South Carolina and the Cotton Belt states…and unless the incident took place on Kelly AFB orat an event sponsored by the USAF orthe like, what recourse is there?

    urbanleftbehind (f76bca)

  18. 16, I think the answer to that question would have made for a very special episode of A Different World.

    urbanleftbehind (f76bca)

  19. The Northam administration just became an idiocracy. Slave ≠ indentured servant.

    Paul Montagu (0eb929)

  20. @19. Run it to ground; why should Virginia and VMI take all the heat.
    __________

    @16. ‘Cause by ’81, Kudlow already had dibs on ‘Snowman,’ Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  21. I hate to say this, but the governor is technically — very technically — correct. The first Africans brought to Virginia’s shores did come here as indentured labor. Unlike the vast majority (but not all) of white indentured servants, they did not come here willingly. However, they were not chattel; legally, they could earn their freedom. The first definite documented case of chattel slavery in Virginia occurs in 1640, and it did not become truly institutionalized until passage of a law in 1662 which said that children inherited the status of their mother.

    As someone who deals with history for a living, I am happy that this incident may have helped to shed a little light for some people on the actual development of slavery in America, a history that is often (understandably) oversimplified in the transmission. However, this is one of the best cases I’ve ever seen of “wrong messenger for the message.”

    Demosthenes (7fae81)

  22. Sorry, I meant to include this at the close of my previous post:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_Virginia

    Demosthenes (7fae81)

  23. @19. ‘maybe more reluctantly’

    LOL -like ‘being a little pregnant,’ eh.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  24. No disco, that came much later, you know who was spending his college stipend on Bolivia’s finest dont you?

    Narciso (42d906)

  25. @24. South Park blamed Canada; Virginia might just get away with blaming Britain. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  26. Greg Abbott > Your governor

    Dustin (6d7686)

  27. Demosthenes: I remember reading that the first recorded evidence of slavery in Virginia involved a black master and a black slave. Is that your understanding too?

    Gary Hoffman (7ec1de)

  28. That is one arrogant piece of crap.

    nk (dbc370)

  29. “Open mouth, insert foot.”

    In his case, it should read:

    “Open mouth, insert foot, insert other foot, insert right hand, insert left hand, insert every other appendage in the body, keep going till you have swallowed yourself.”

    Bored Lawyer (8ea02a)

  30. Such a hubristic pig

    mg (827274)

  31. @ 29: According to the historical consensus, the first documented case of chattel slavery in Virginia concerned a man called John Punch, who was punished in 1640 for running away from his (white) master by being sentenced to serve his master for the remainder of his life.

    The case you’re mentioning, if Snopes is reliable on this subject, is probably that of Anthony Johnson. Johnson’s ownership of a man named John Casor was established as legal by a Virginia court in 1654. However, Casor was not sentenced to serve Johnson for life as the result of a crime, so it MIGHT be the first case of non-punitive legal slavery in American history. Again, though, I just learned about that case five minutes ago while Googling your question. So, grain of salt.

    Demosthenes (7fae81)

  32. It should be clear that Gov. Northam is indeed a moral compass. When his arrow points north, you know that True North is the opposite direction.

    More seriously…if someone truly thinks dressing up in blackface is as bad as sexually assaulting women, they need a better moral compass.

    Kishnevi (db47fb)

  33. @26. He can confess his start at his next presser; probably thought Nancy said, ‘just say blow.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  34. In pursuit of a better moral compass…
    https://amp.cincinnati.com/amp/2822891002

    Kishnevi (db47fb)

  35. If Fairfax is forced out while Northam stays, any black person who votes Democrat in next election should have their* head examined.

    nk (dbc370)

  36. *”They” and “their” as the gender-neutral pronouns were in use 100 years ago. It is not woke; it is fusty and what was the other word?

    nk (dbc370)

  37. coonman?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  38. @38. It’s the clowns who wear whiteface.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  39. mimers too

    help i’m stuck in a box

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  40. Yes miss Larson needs to show some personality, cgi can only go so far.Johansen by comparison, even in dreck like the spirit (samuel l Jackson can go over the top) was nearly passable.

    Narciso (4db6ef)

  41. Yes in the year of #metoo, they put an alleged rapist as no #2, take a bow virginia.

    Narciso (4db6ef)

  42. He should have made a ‘dancing video’.

    askeptic (728656)

  43. I don’t there was much breakdancing in mrfical schools in 1984, but it would explain some things.

    Narciso (4db6ef)

  44. Very technically, Demosthenes, given that there were only 300 black indentured servants in 1650, and they didn’t ask to come here.

    Paul Montagu (0eb929)

  45. The difference is distance and there was no expectation of any decent on the part of the slavers I think the kingdom abolished their institution in 1962, ironically around the time malcolm little did the hajj

    Narciso (4db6ef)

  46. I dont think you can remove Fairfax for moral turpitude and northam well he just keeps stepping on rakes.

    Narciso (4db6ef)

  47. I think his wife wears the pants in the family. As a friend of mine said about another doctor, “He’s the wife”.

    nk (dbc370)

  48. A racist baby-killer, too.

    nk (dbc370)

  49. They should all remain in office. In a Dem ideal world, VA swings right in 2021 anyway.

    urbanleftbehind (f76bca)

  50. That’s why mcawful was very diligent with legying felons vote, he couldn’t let his failure of due diligence in Charleston stand on its own.

    Narciso (4db6ef)

  51. AOC conservatives hate me because I am the future and that are the past and have no future. If capitalism is so great for milinnials why are most of them socialists aoc.

    lany (66d61a)

  52. Southern states do seem to compensate, unlike say the west and northeast coasts.

    Narciso (4db6ef)

  53. If capitalism is so great for milinnials why are most of them socialists aoc.

    Because most of their teachers are Communists.

    Kishnevi (480bf9)

  54. iPhones. The Chinese have installed subliminal messages in them, promoting laziness, idleness, and living off the labor of others. Also killing babies. The Chinese kill a lot of babies. Baby girls more than baby boys.

    Parasitism and infanticide. The hallmarks of the iPhone Age.

    nk (dbc370)

  55. I’m reminded of a lesser known role of Albert Finney, looker, where he played a plastic surgeon who also had a certain extra device in his employ it was based on a Michael Crichton story.

    Narciso (4db6ef)

  56. Correction Finney was the hero, Coburn was the villain with the subliminal transmitter.

    Narciso (4db6ef)

  57. I hope Howard Schulz runs. I made a pot of his Espresso Roast this morning. Not bad. While drinking it, I was told that someone we know (thankfully not family) is boycotting Starbucks because of his threat to run.

    nk (dbc370)

  58. @56 The same lame excuse was used in the 1960’s/1970’s as to why students were anti war. if capitalism was so great for millennials they would see it for themselves ;but instead they think capitalists are bullsh*t artists out for themselves greed is good for me and if you don’t like it your a commie!

    lany (66d61a)

  59. The Brits fought in Yemen four years probably eight when you add in Oman (the subject of the killer elite remake) the French that long in Algeria, malaya was about that long.

    Narciso (2667ad)

  60. @56. You mean tenure; same difference. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  61. @40. Cartman? Can’t tell w/t mask, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  62. The only reason to boycott Starbucks is their coffe tastes burnt.

    mg (c86ea9)

  63. @ Paul Montagu, #47:

    I said as much. The only thing in your post not in mine was the number.

    Demosthenes (7fae81)

  64. starbucks is a nasty hose down the floor place anymore you can get tuberculosis there

    meanwhile there is many ways to buy fancy coffees where they do it with more style and creative flair

    here are two in chicago for to be explore

    sawada

    i like going here not cause of the coffee (lattes tend to be luke warmish) but because it’s an awesome place and the walk from ogilvie takes you through that ineffable part of downtown what seems wholly designed to make you feel teensy tiny

    there’s secret ramen downstairs too!

    when it first opened it was charmingly adorned with for reals japanese graffiti

    i guess somebody complainered or something

    you can still find a remnant or two of this in the alley across the way though next to the soho house

    bourgeois pig cafe

    this one i haven’t been to yet cause right now it had a tacky banner hanging on it last time i went by but i pass it all the time and I’m a go once they get rid of the tacky part

    this one is on the way from the metro to all kinds of neat things in america for example

    ** the happy ducks (closed til april)

    ** the lincoln park conservatory and zoo

    ** and the north pond is right there too

    lots of other stuff around there too but that’s enough to justify your trip to get the tasty coffee that’s not starbucks

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  65. Arkansas used to be Blue AF but it needed about 20 years for a full cleanse.

    urbanleftbehind (f76bca)

  66. Many millennials have been spoiled by GenX and Baby Boomer parents….helicopter parents, participation trophies, and virtually unlimited social connection through the internet and cell phones. Kids are used to being provided everything….and grow to believe they are entitled to it. Let’s face it, humans are selfish by nature. It takes work to suppress and overcome our selfish behaviors. It takes work and maturity to think beyond one’s current wants, defer gratification, and establish a career, buy a house, get married, and raise kids. Socialism tends to stunt this natural maturation. What’s sad is how some people get trapped in this thinking for the rest of their lives….always believing that other people owe them this or that subsidy. Free college, free health care, a guaranteed job (or income), subsidized transportation….it all flows from an unrealistic sense of entitlement. Wait a few years….they’ll grow up….

    AJ_Liberty (165d19)

  67. What is worst about socialists is that they smell of old sweat and old farts. They should bathe and change their underclothes more often. And learn to use a bidet.

    nk (dbc370)

  68. 69. Free is a problem only if it is really not free. free air is not a problem, nor really free water. Or even free fish.

    Socialism is a problem because organizations deteriorate, and there is no competition and the only check is the extremely weak force of elections.

    Also, there is no great disincentive to do a bad job.

    When it comes to publicly owned institutions, the people running them are not afraid much of losing their jobs, or of being closed or going out of business, or being sued; and less afraid of the prosecutors than people involved in private businesses.

    Charter schools (which are evn public schools! But not unionized. Often have to be good.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  69. 57. Noe the zchinese government sees it made amistake in 1980, and they want people to have more children. But they’re not liatening.

    The birth rate went up temp0rarily by 8% in 2016 when they allowed women, after many yeasr of prohibition, to have 2 children (in the same jurisdiction – it never applied to births abroad) but went down again by more than 3% in 2017.

    They still probably harvest organs of prisoners for transplants; in important cases killing a few matching donors at a time in case one or more of them in not received in good condition. They more definitely take blood tests of many prisoners.

    Of course that beats executing prisoners as a matter of course – they have to be kept alive in case they might make a good organ donor one day, and tgheer are not that many of them. They don’t do these on-demand transplants with most foreigners any more.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  70. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/full-transcript-of-face-the-nation-on-february-10-2019/

    GOVERNOR RALPH NORTHAM (D-Virginia @GovernorVA): Well, it has been a difficult week. And– and, you know, if you look at Virginia’s history we’re now at the four hundred year anniversary, just ninety miles from here in 1619 the first indentured servants from Africa landed on our shores in Old Point Comfort what we call now Fort Monroe and while–

    GAYLE KING: Also known as slavery.

    GOVERNOR RALPH NORTHAM: Yes.

    GAYLE KING: Yeah, yeah.

    23. Demosthenes (7fae81) — 2/10/2019 @ 4:40 pm

    I hate to say this, but the governor is technically — very technically — correct.

    No he was completely correct, although there are some caveats.

    But the Governor was so terrified he didn’t explain himself. He was acting Like a hostage maybe.

    He should have said something like:

    No, no no. They didn’t know how to classify the ones who were first brought here, and they were treated as indentured servants – that is, they went free after a period of years (or is it they had to “earn” their freedom? SF) They did not come here willingly like the white indentured servants, but they were not slaves for life. That only was decided later, and if it had been decided the other way, we might not have had a permanent institution of slavery. Power takes time to corrupt. There was a whole community of “free Negroes” in early colonial Virginia, some of whom owned slaves themselves. Later on, in the 1800s, after they became afraid of slave revolts, and more afraid of slaves escaping, and had given up all thought of abolition, it became illegal for an emancipated slave to stay in Virginia and even to teach a slave to read. And they began even to justify slavery as a positive good.

    Or if he thought that was wrong he could explained how he came to make that mistake.

    . However, this is one of the best cases I’ve ever seen of “wrong messenger for the message.”

    He didn’t give that message. As soon as he was contradicted, he agreed with Gayle King’s ignorance.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  71. But, as a result of his manner, Gayle King thought him sincere, so much so, she stood up for him on Face the Nation:

    GAYLE KING: Margaret, can I ask you a question? Am I still on mic? No.

    MARGARET BRENNAN: I– I don’t know that you are. Sorry, what is your question, Gayle?

    GAYLE KING: Well, when you said that he’s lost the confidence, he realizes that. But he also wants a chance to regain the confidence. Do you think he deserves that? He knows that he’s lost everyone’s confidence.

    REPRESENTATIVE JENNIFER WEXTON: But he still needs to be able to govern.

    GAYLE KING: Okay.

    He was certainly apologetic. But not honest and sincere.

    Sammy Finkelman (102c75)

  72. so at one time if you said hey coonman this guy would be all howdy what can i do ya fer

    there’s gotta be a story there

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  73. While I think LGov Fairfax is shady for what we did, he definitely should not be the designated fall guy for a Dukie b-baller.

    I had my money on Jay Williams, and had forgotten this dude had his couple and done at Puke in that epoch: http://abc7chicago.com/sports/corey-maggette-accused-in-duke-rape-case/5134149/

    urbanleftbehind (f76bca)


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