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1/19/2019

Brian Stelter and His “Reliable Sources”

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 12:48 pm



Offered without further comment.

OK, I lied; I’ll offer further comment.

There’s nothing wrong with having Ben Smith and Anthony Cormier on a show about media. Stelter should have Jason Leopold on as well. The issue is not simply their presence on the show. The issue is whether they, and the sources upon which they based their recent blockbuster story, are going to be treated as “Reliable Sources.”

And based on Stelter’s track record — including having Dan Rather on his show and treating him as some sort of journalism laureate — Stelter is not going to raise the real questions that need to be raised. Such as: how do you hire a guy who maintained for months that Karl Rove had been indicted — and who doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down on that story when the world could see how dubious it was? And how could you publish a story this momentous based on anonymous sources, co-authored by a guy with that track record?

And: if you claim that there are documents supporting your story, where are they? Did you bring them with you today? You didn’t? Why not?

So yeah, Brian Stelter, I want “to pursue and promote reliable info” and “to advocate for a better media ecosystem.” But I don’t think your laughably named show is the way to do that.

Prove me wrong. Do your job on Sunday. Don’t tepidly raise Mueller’s denial, give these guys a platform to pretend that their story is still solid, and act like it’s a he said/she said situation. Even if Trump did what they are accusing him of — and believe me, I think that’s quite possible — there is a Big Problem here. If you want to advocate for a better media ecosystem, you should damned well treat it like the problem it is.

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

344 Responses to “Brian Stelter and His “Reliable Sources””

  1. The phrase “media ecosystem” is a pretty good indicator that Stelter is completely full of himself.

    JVW (54fd0b)

  2. Ugh. It’s about what OUGHT to be true to the journalist, not what IS true.

    And we live in a brave new world where anyone can be thought to be guilty of something. So the journalists are the gatekeepers, and set the internet mobs on their way…depending on what the journalists decide.

    It’s all slogans and bumper stickers, sadly. And good people respond to their preferred “news sources” in highly predictable ways. Erzählung uber alles.

    It reminds me of the climenoles or “flappers” in Swift’s “Gulliver’s Travels.”

    http://www.online-literature.com/swift/gulliver/18/

    Ugh.

    Simon Jester (3575b9)

  3. The goal of the show is to explore the news about the news…”

    If journalist are to avoid “becoming the story,” shouldn’t the news avoid “becoming the news?”

    felipe (023cc9)

  4. shouldn’t the news media avoid “becoming the news?”

    Sorry about that.

    felipe (023cc9)

  5. When they say ‘reliable’, they mean that they can be relied on to never say anything that will offend the sensibilities of their urbanite audience, not that their news is factually accurate, which really isn’t necessary when the message from your bosses, your advertisers, and your dwindling audience of true believers is WE WANT OUR DAILY AGITPROP. (And do note that Mueller’s office waited till Friday night to release the denial, giving it a full day of news cycle authority.)

    Ironically, if they were a serious news operation and not a lowest-common denominator propaganda rag whose major qualification is ‘will say whatever crud we tell them to’, they could afford to hire somebody who doesn’t look, sound like, or act like Brian Stelter.

    Bort (b11a40)

  6. “The phrase “media ecosystem” is a pretty good indicator that Stelter is completely full of himself.”

    I beg to disagree. I think he and the rest of that CNN Motley Crew are full to the brim of schiff

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  7. @2.Actually, we live in a ‘brave new world’ where anyone can literally ‘play’ at being a journalist. All you need is a smartphone and a web platform to peddle sucker bait. Journalists aren’t the ‘gatekeepers’ – editors are. A smartphone user w/a camera and web access answers pretty much to nobody.

    _______

    Memo to Seltzer: would ‘rather’ hear from ‘Woodstein’ and Sloan ’bout being right but getting it wrong. Better still, Mueller himself for clarification; he’s the government employee who works for all of us.

    Parse-Farce is the word game of choice these days and ‘inaccurate’ has the odor of azz-covering non-denial denial.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  8. Nowhere Man Journalist

    He’s a real journalist
    filling up his mill with grist
    Faking news and answering to nobody!

    [take it away, Colonel]

    felipe (023cc9)

  9. Brian Stelter
    @brianstelter
    A little bit of today’s #WomensMarch in NYC, down the street from CNN
    __ _

    E J Hupala
    @5k42013
    Replying to
    @brianstelter
    Looks like a loop same people over and over
    __ _

    Sam Dornan
    @sdornan
    Can’t tell if this is sarcastic or not. It’s a five-second video that loops if you keep watching it.
    __ _

    Sean Agnew
    @seanagnew
    Replying to
    @brianstelter
    I must have missed your March for Life pics/posts from yesterday.
    __ _

    Stephen McLean
    @sfm_42
    Pretty sure I saw him marching as a Gillette razor

    harkin (e6b10c)

  10. exactly, narrative sources, so when Obama let putin steal half of the Ukraine, and nearly all the reporters to a man and woman, said of course putin was losing, umkay, whereas Ukraine was handed #hashtags and food rations, surprisingly though, volodya was unwilling to go all the way to kiev, the green man group of ex?? spetnaz, not being the most able administrators, and unlike the efficiency of killing eve, they have proven rather inept the Russian version of chase and acroyd,

    so one looks at the skadden arps matter, and one has to be deliberately looking to see how they were slapped on the wrist, 4.6 million, that’s their ink and toner budget,

    narciso (d1f714)

  11. They don’t have this problem in Russia, do they?

    … and Putin smiled.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  12. Archibald cox was ted Kennedy’s place setter, and the balance of his prosecutors to a man, like the one my friend clarice bested. were anti Nixon partisans, keep telling that silly fairytale about fairness,

    political surveillance, payoffs, that was the nature of the game for forty years before Watergate,

    narciso (d1f714)

  13. 8… i’m not worthy felipe!

    In a bind or up a tree
    Facts don’t matter, he don’t see
    Journolist will fail the test each day

    Journolist no worries
    Like a rat you scurry
    Talkin’ trash, ‘til your brother Jake’s
    Tappin’ dat ass

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  14. 11… stuck in a loop again…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  15. @14. ‘Chicago, Chicago…’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  16. There ain’t no Jane, no Jill, no Sally to see you thru…
    So you do what you want, and pretend again that it’s time to roam cuz you can’t go home

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)


  17. He’s a real journalist
    filling up his mill with grist
    Faking news and answering to nobody!

    [take it away, Colonel]

    felipe (023cc9) — 1/19/2019 @ 1:59 pm

    Always has a point-of-view
    Cares not who he’s lying to
    Journalist, do you even care at all??

    Bill H (383c5d)

  18. it’s as much what they chose not to focus on:

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/19/linda-sarsour-womens-march-bds/

    narciso (d1f714)

  19. Would he have Kelly Ann Conway on his show, or would he reject her because she wasn’t “reliable”?

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  20. political surveillance, payoffs, that was the nature of the game for forty years before Watergate,

    Johnson bugged everyone and had rigged his election to the Senate in the first place. The Democrats turned a blind eye ,, just the way the game was played.

    But they were shocked … SHOCKED! … to see the same thing going on in Nixon’s regime.

    Kevin M (21ca15)

  21. Is possibility Mueller is leaning on one or more of Trump’s “lawyers at the White House”, who personally coached Cohen on his testimony to Congress, to get them to say that they did it on Trump’s instructions, whereupon the dots would be connected, and articles of impeachment would draft themselves.

    nk (dbc370)

  22. Brian who?

    mg (8cbc69)

  23. @21. Was a bit more than just ‘bugging.’ Make some Jiffy-Pop and listen to some Nixon tapes… The Big Dick himself is a highly ‘reliable source.’
    _______

    “Inaccurate” is inadequate.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  24. @23. Weekend cablers crave attention.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  25. 17… what it is, Mr. H?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  26. @20. More likely Extra-crispy Huckabee fills that bucket. Has she ever been booked for the gig?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  27. a non partisan media came about from advertising revenue as advertisers wanted everyone to buy their product. before world war II we had yellow journalism hearst/pulitzer et.al. wahington was called a tyrant. jefferson the devil lincon an ape jackson a bigamist and cleveland a pervert. the establishment wants certain news reported and other news not reported. he who pays the piper calls the toon. old news saying what they don’t want you to know is news. what they want you to know is propaganda. business paid papers to run sports pages to get the workers interested in sports instead of politics and demanded sports teams play on sunday so workers wouldn’t attend marches. fox news vs cnn/msnbc upsets the corporate deep states presentation of the news.

    lany (707932)

  28. All the evidence I’ve seen of dem rep. from cantafordya Eric Swallowell is that he is a pedophile.

    mg (8cbc69)

  29. I guess it would be Cormier and leopold:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/archives.html

    Narciso (d01100)

  30. I’d cut the kid a tiny bit of slack if either of his parents caught the unemployment whirlwind across the river at Procter and Gamble over the Gillette mess.

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  31. Leave it to a racist like Steve Sailer to defend a patently racist act by high school MAGA hat wearers.

    Paul Montagu (fbb6c1)

  32. But you’re fine with journolisters and Marxist abetter publications, well you deserve insley.

    Narciso (d01100)

  33. But you’re fine with journolisters and Marxist abetter publications, well you deserve insley.

    I’m fine with credible and not racist, but thanks for mischaracterizing.

    Paul Montagu (fbb6c1)

  34. 36… jump to conclusions much? Wait for the evidence.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  35. This one is said to provide context… https://twitter.com/matthewschmitz/status/1086850957567315968

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  36. 36… jump to conclusions much? Wait for the evidence.

    The kid with the MAGA hat owns the racist facial expressions he made.

    Paul Montagu (fbb6c1)

  37. The racist MAGA hat wearing high schooler’s mom probably won’t get Mother of the Year.

    The mother of a boy filmed harassing a Native American man along with his friends at a rally in Washington DC has blamed “black Muslims” for the confrontation, without providing any evidence for the claim.

    Paul Montagu (fbb6c1)

  38. everyone had a great time at the rally is the main thing

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  39. OT, Haiku, ask your favorite information source to teach female soldiers not to rape as well:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6610881/Drunk-female-trooper-3am-sex-assault-male-Windsor-Castle-guard-let-reprimand.html

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  40. “racist facial expressions”

    Funny stuff!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  41. Chuck Ross
    @ChuckRossDC
    Jesus, Stelter let BuzzFeed steer his entire interview.
    __ _

    Big Paulie
    @BIGpaulie913
    Could it be because Stelter is not good at his job?
    ___

    jennydee
    @jenndee19
    He is very good at his job….a shill for the left.
    __ _

    Dr. Ñot Top 100
    @NocAHomaratheon
    Replying to
    @whpresscorps
    “Did you see the documents?”

    “I’m not going to talk about it”

    “Ok”

    WUT
    __ _

    Flinger
    @Flinger35

    “Anthony, is there anything I am leaving out?” is how Stelter ends the interview…almost like he invited them on to spin it the best way possible with no push back.

    harkin (e6b10c)

  42. Funny stuff!

    Called as seen.

    Paul Montagu (fbb6c1)

  43. I saw people looking for a confrontation and using insults to provoke one. They weren’t wearing red hats.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  44. You’d better find another “found that offensive” painted pony to ride, Paul. This one’s just been put down.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  45. racist facial expression
    #Calypso Louie

    mg (8cbc69)

  46. “The racist MAGA hat wearing high schooler’s mom”
    Paul Montagu (fbb6c1) — 1/20/2019 @ 8:30 am

    Sentence structure makes it unclear whether the hat is racist or the high schooler, or the mom. Gonna assume the answer is Yes!

    Munroe (ab401a)

  47. hats are pretty much the least racist thing in america except for maybe carrot cake

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  48. That’s why they are reliable, the message is trump is guilty, no we cant show you any proof.

    Narciso (ed2a47)

  49. This one’s just been put down.

    It hasn’t, not even close.

    Paul Montagu (fbb6c1)

  50. hats are pretty much the least racist Thing in America”

    In moonbatland they are racist hate speech.

    harkin (e6b10c)

  51. Lol at racist intimidation.

    Dood was allowed to pound the cowhide like a metronome and kid smiled at him.

    Didn’t even ask him to go uptempo or jazz it up.

    harkin (e6b10c)

  52. if your hat’s a neutral red color and it says make america great on it then you’re supporting the policies what have driven down the african-american unemployment rate to the lowest level ever seen in the whole history of the department of commerce

    and you should be proud of yourself, wearing your red hat perched right there atop your smiling face

    these are policies of love

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  53. if they can’t read whats on the hat is it still racist?

    mg (8cbc69)

  54. …and if you reelect him, Jason Van Dyke won’t get pardoned 2 years from today.

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  55. “It hasn’t, not even close.”

    Is that you giving it mouth-to-mouth?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  56. Matthew 6:22-23: “The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are healthy, your whole body will be full of light.
    “But if your eyes are unhealthy, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within is darkness, how great is that darkness!”
    Or, as Cicero said: “The face is a picture of the mind as the eyes are its interpreter.”
    But noted that some folks have told me to not believe my lying eyes.

    Paul Montagu (27e440)

  57. Stelter is a leftist propagandist who fashions himself in the style of Goebbels.

    I see President Trump tried to compromise and offer something to the left in return for starting to enforce our borders, but they would rather have the DACA recipients twist in the wind than give Trump a victory.

    Time to ramp up deportations and hold sanctuary cities/states in a state of insurrection and treat them accordingly.

    NJRob (4d595c)

  58. Leave it to a racist like Steve Sailer to defend a patently racist act by high school MAGA hat wearers.

    Paul Montagu (fbb6c1) — 1/20/2019 @ 7:46 am

    You love those leftist talking points and tried to ruin an innocent teenager’s life in the process. Why is that?

    NJRob (4d595c)

  59. But noted that some folks have told me to not believe my lying eyes.

    Defending the indefensible – just another day at the office in TrumpWorld…

    Dave (1bb933)

  60. https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/mollie_hemmingway_chuck_todd_1-20-19-1-800×732.jpg

    We all saw that 9+ minutes WITH OUR OWN EYES, find the Commandment that addresses bearing false witness, that’s more appropriate.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  61. You love those leftist talking points and tried to ruin an innocent teenager’s life in the process. Why is that?

    Mindreading noted, which is an intellectually lazy and dishonest practice.

    Paul Montagu (27e440)

  62. Some people will go far out of their way to find something/anything that – in their eyes – could be used to attack POTUS or his supporters… even attacking teenaged kids.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  63. Paul, you’re correct. Kid was a racist punk. People used to ask how white robes could be racist too, and they had that same grin on their faces while they asked. Don’t dignify them with a reaction.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  64. they would rather have the DACA recipients twist in the wind than give Trump a victory.

    No, they want to give them permanent status instead of being dependent on presidential whim, which is what Trump is offering.

    And they don’t want Trump to gain from the shutdown, since he’ll be encouraged to do it again in the future.

    Meanwhile, to the extent Trump is forcing the shutdown, he’s committing an impeachable act: willfully interfering with the execution of the laws of the US (execution of the laws in this case being everything else the government is doing).

    kishnevi (bb03e6)

  65. Racist grins… wow.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  66. What the video actually shows is that a jeering group of teenagers surrounded a small group of Leftists after the leftists came up to them.

    No one asked the leftists to approach the kids, but no one asked the kids to then surround the leftists and jeer at them, instead of, say, ignoring them.

    kishnevi (bb03e6)

  67. 9+ minutes of video. Turn the volume up and listen to what was said and who was saying it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  68. this is just how protests are

    you have buttholes like the stupid native american guy with his obnoxious mongolian throat singing and you have jew-hating pussyhatters like Patrice Comey then you have some nice kids with neutral red ballcaps on just taking it all in, maybe trying to grab something for instagram or snappy snap

    it’s like a little slice of america i love it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  69. I wan’t going to waste my time but since it’s important to you guys, I’m going to go watch the video.

    nk (dbc370)

  70. and the usual suspects will now do the usual doxxing and harassment. This situation could’ve gone better, but it doesn’t seem one-sided.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  71. No, they want to give them permanent status instead of being dependent on presidential whim, which is what Trump is offering.

    Well, currently the courts have ruled that the DACA kids can stay temporarily, so there is already a temporary stay, so Trump is offering little, for a crisis he says is immediate, being fixed with a solution that will take decades.

    No one asked the leftists to approach the kids, but no one asked the kids to then surround the leftists and jeer at them, instead of, say, ignoring them.

    To be fair, if you go take a bunch of kids to a leftist rally to protest, it’s not the leftists approaching the kids. I live in Northern Kentucky and can attest some of these parents are absolutely as bad as they’re being made out to be, so it’s not really their kids’ fault. The diocese is apoplectic, other schools in the diocese went but avoided these kinds of things specifically because of the potential of getting kids bad situations, and having a PR nightmare, exactly like this.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  72. The kids were there as part of the pro-life March, just like every year. The kids were not taken to a leftist rally, unless you simply mean being in DC is being present at a leftist rally.
    In fact, one of the things posted in the link Col H gave at #40 is a statement by someone claiming to be one of the kids, and specifically states that at that moment they were simply at a predetermined rendezvous waiting for the buses to take them to wherever they were spending the night (or possibly directly back to Kentucky).

    kishnevi (bb03e6)

  73. Meh. Hecklers got heckled back.

    And that’s not a racist grin. It’s a smarmy teenage smirk.

    nk (dbc370)

  74. Even if the Indian was not heckling but was instead a street performer, the most the kids are guilty of is not using jazz hands and singing off key.

    nk (dbc370)

  75. The kids were there as part of the pro-life March, just like every year. The kids were not taken to a leftist rally, unless you simply mean being in DC is being present at a leftist rally.

    No, there where multiple rallies, at multiple locations, you had to actually leave one, and travel to another, literally the opposite end of the mall, 2.5 miles away.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  76. In the 9+ minute video, one of the Catholic boys is asking, “Does anybody know what he’s doing? Does anybody know what’s going on here.”

    One of the Indians with the drummer Phillips shouts: “White people, go back to Europe. This is not your land.” He curses the students with f-bombs. He goes on: “You’re being a white man about it. That’s all you know how to do.”

    Then, a member of a nut-bag black radical cult called the Black Hebrews starts ranting at the boys about whites and sodomy, and says that “your president is a homosexual.” He then appears to make fun of Christian civilization, saying: “You give faggots rights!”

    This is now being used in an attempt to discredit the March for Life by the Left.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  77. In the 9+ minute video, one of the Catholic boys is asking, “Does anybody know what he’s doing? Does anybody know what’s going on here.”

    One of the Indians with the drummer Phillips shouts: “White people, go back to Europe. This is not your land.” He curses the students with f-bombs. He goes on: “You’re being a white man about it. That’s all you know how to do.”

    Then, a member of a nut-bag black radical cult called the Black Hebrews starts ranting at the boys about whites and sodomy, and says that “your president is a homosexual.” He then appears to make fun of Christian civilization, saying: “You give f**gots rights!”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  78. This is now being used in an attempt to discredit the March for Life by the Left.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  79. They were at a site where there was no rally. And the leftists did go to the kids, not the kids to the leftists.

    Kishnevi (bb03e6)

  80. Predictable and it will never end.

    mg (8cbc69)

  81. Meanwhile I just discovered that everyone files a form 1040 thus year, and it’s about half the length of the old one.
    WaPo headline : Trump moves to put HR Block out of business.

    Kishnevi (bb03e6)

  82. immigration reform is not going to happen because the democrats will lose their caravans of props.

    mg (8cbc69)

  83. 85… that makes no difference to the Left…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  84. they’re guilty of just standing there instead of getting injun joe a lozenge

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  85. And John yarmouth, proves hes Judd another hack.

    Narciso (ed2a47)

  86. “People used to ask how white robes could be racist too, and they had that same grin on their faces while they asked.”

    Grinning now equals burning crosses and lynching.

    harkin (e6b10c)

  87. i’ll be curious to see if the catholic school goes full popetard on the poor kid’s ass

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  88. This shaman and group of Black Hebrews just showing up all of a sudden might share “spotting” tactics with Muslim truck drivers and their lookouts along parade routes.

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  89. 93… you can’t make this stuff up, eh? Shallow and ridiculous.

    From Narciso’s link:

    “Note the number of aging Boomers who reach back to the journalistic touchstone of their youth, the (non)-impeachment of Richard Nixon. For them, Watergate is forever.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  90. Hope these games today are competitive!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  91. burning crosses and lynching”

    AKA adopting the tactics of the Democratic Party.

    harkin (e6b10c)

  92. If they were on the Cincy side e.g. Moeller, LaSalle, Xavier, Bacon, even Elder nowadays, sure they’d punk. He’s more screwed if he’s on aid and not a legacy.

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  93. “Army sources have told this newspaper that Army sources have told this newspaper that Tpr Holmes forced herself against the younger soldier, tried to kiss him and rubbed her body against his before being pulled off by a furious officer who reacted to the male soldier’s cries for help.”

    Britain is doomed, ulb…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  94. our NATO allies lol

    (joke alliance)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  95. This was the purpose of the story:

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/20/buzzfeed-report-mueller-schiff/

    Narciso (ed2a47)

  96. This is an awesome example of how the media manipulates a story to push their preferred narrative. And there’s no shortage of the malevolent, the willingly gullible, or the outright dupes out there.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  97. OT- ‘Hopes and prayers’- then and now: 50 years go today Richard Nixon was inaugurated as POTUS; the fella our Captain so admires and keeps a note from same framed in the Oval. CSPAN3 is airing the CBS News broadcast tape of the event which runs about an hour. It’s an interesting portrait for Trumpsters who swoon for the days when America was ‘great’ and want to be ‘great again.’

    The crowds and dignitaries are literally a sea of middle-aged white guys peppered by matronly ladies. No blacks, no latinos, few young women, the ‘wet head’ was in w/plenty of hats. Speechified priorities were the same then as now; war and peace; dollars and nonsense. Lots of hot air on a cold day. W/Dirksen running the show, best exit, LBJ, best cameo, Frank Borman– just back from the moon; best sound, USMC band, best name, Spiro Theodore Agnew; best forgotten, Hubert Horatio Humphrey; best comedy, Billy Graham’s over-the-top-performance, in his prime, evangelizing for Nixon and his mob but best flop goes to the ‘I am not a crook’ himself.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  98. Don’t know how “another” was auto corrected to “awesome”… wow

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  99. 96… another “aging Boomer”…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  100. 94: Apparently not!

    “@BreakingNLive

    BREAKING: Covington Catholic High School ‘may sue’ mainstream media outlets for spreading ‘fake news’ about their students allegedly ‘harassing a Native American veteran’”

    They deserve a crusade and knights templar conquering their offices, but baby steps first.

    There are dozens of journalists and lefty/antifa ‘influencers’ exhibiting everything from gross negligence to Actual Malice in their premature analysis of this situation and their egging on mob behavior against the children. Will be interesting to see if anyone is actually held accountable; but we know the media cartel protects its own. Overdue for another Gawker-sized body slam!

    Bort (e69291)

  101. isn’t there some kinda lunar event tonight involving the moon

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  102. thanks for that Mr. Bort

    maybe this is a pivot point who knows

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  103. @104. Postscript– honorable mention, 27 American casualties in Vietnam on January 20, 1969.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  104. Mr. Montagu and Mr. Dustin were wrong and the rest of us were right so we should cap this day off with a nocturnal lunar phenomenon involving the moon i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  105. harkin, #93:

    Grinning now equals burning crosses and lynching.

    That is some first-rate misreading right there. Two actions do not have to be equal to spring from the same impulse, and people can behave in the same terrible ways about sins both large and small. And any commenter should be able to presume that such points are obvious and do not need an explicit statement.

    About the boy’s supposed racism, I make no claim on either side. I have not seen the footage; I am entitled to no judgment on the basis of what little knowledge on the incident I have. But I can make a judgment about this comment. You, sir, are either not a very careful reader, or else deliberately twisting someone’s words into a straw man as grotesque to see as it is easy to defeat. Commenting rules might be construed in such a way as to prohibit me from speculation on which option I believe might obtain, though longtime readers here can draw their own conclusions…as no doubt some already have.

    I will similarly pass over speculation on the motive behind the Colonel’s comment at #103. I will only pause to note that some other commenter — perhaps (again) one who is less interested in arguing whether a particular comment counts as a personal attack or as a legitimate and defensible characterization of a commenter’s words — might spend a little time in questionably profitable speculation on whether the comment’s amusing juxtaposition with harkin’s at #93 is based merely on astoundingly poor timing, or whether it might proceed from an all-too-aware attempt to cover up the sins of an ally by highlighting the same sins in one’s enemies. Whichever way one were to fall on that question, I suspect comment #96 would be a rather key text:

    you can’t make this stuff up, eh? Shallow and ridiculous.

    Indeed, Colonel. Indeed.

    Demosthenes (d4ae34)

  106. 94: Apparently not!

    “@BreakingNLive

    BREAKING: Covington Catholic High School ‘may sue’ mainstream media outlets for spreading ‘fake news’ about their students allegedly ‘harassing a Native American veteran’”

    Breaking News, this is fake, the Diocese of Covington, who are the administrators of this school, is not doing any of that. I notice you have quoted the infowars’esque “may sue” from a rando, as opposed to the actual quotes from the Diocese, they are apologizing profusely in front of every camera they can find in Cincinnati and saying how terribly misguided the students and chaperones were.

    “We condemn the actions of the Covington Catholic High School students towards Nathan Phillips specifically, and Native Americans in general, Jan. 18, after the March for Life, in Washington, D.C.,” the archdiocese’s statement reads. “We extend our deepest apologies to Mr. Phillips. This behavior is opposed to the Church’s teachings on the dignity and respect of the human person.”

    The diocese said that the matter was under investigation and that students could be expelled.

    Colonel Klink (Ret) (6e7a1c)

  107. They leak their preferred narrative to damage the pro life rally, when they ‘cant cover it with a pillow, until it stops moving’ while playing up the totally astroturf so called womans watch that even the splc stopped endorsing. Just like any tea party criticism could not be deemed legitimate. Yadda yadda

    Narciso (ed2a47)

  108. you’re kinda super-far behind the curve on this fake news hoax Mr. Klink

    it already blew up in injun joe’s face already (cigar metaphor)

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  109. Just to be clear, I feel sorry for the kid. He did a stupid thing, and time will not be forgiving. he thought his mob was funny, but that doesn’t mean I think the mob gunning for his future is funny. It’s a shame people can’t learn from mistakes like this with lower stakes.

    Google “racist kid” and he’s at the top. I mean, yeah of course he is as the most famous racist kid in the country, with tens of millions agreeing, and only a fringe defending his conduct.

    It’s hard for me to respond to the stuff directed at me in this thread because that’s boring. Same few people seem to always want to make it about the commenters and not the issues, and I guess we come to these blogs for different reasons.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  110. Shove it, Treme…at least the Rams have a kicker. Banda beats Dixieland.

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  111. ““I deleted my original tweet and we also took down a strongly worded post by my colleague Nick Frankovich that relied on the incomplete video. It’s another reminder — even for an old hand like me — that it’s best not to make snap judgments and to wait for all sides of a controversy to have a chance to be heard.”

    —- Rich Lowry, NRO

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  112. Might be the Year of the Ram. Great game!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  113. 117: Dustin, have you ever considered that people make it “about the commenter” because most commenters can virtually guarantee both your knee-jerk position on an issue beforehand and your mealy-mouthed walkbacks afterward based on past performance, and a complete lack of having shown any signs of having learned anything from previous instances may be fueling the angry to dismissive comments today?

    “It’s boring” yeah, correcting children and manchildren who refuse to think for themselves certainly is.

    Bort (0c84a6)

  114. It may be that the initial reaction of a lot of people was “why is that kid harassing the old man?”, but there was “the rest of the story”, as Paul Harvey used to say.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  115. Rich Lowry nailed it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  116. Yeah, respectful kid, nice kid. I hope he stays safe and the truth comes out. It’s so easy to jump to conclusions without ascertaining facts.

    JRH (fe281f)

  117. except the kid isn’t even racist Mr. Dustin he was just standing there thinking happy thoughts about fetuses when Injun Joe started molesting him with his obscene mongolian throat singing

    needless to say there’s a lot of people what are wishing they’d been more patient and thoughtful instead of jumping on the NPR bandwagon to lynch this kid

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  118. it doesn’t matter at this point, the narrative has been baked into the kiln,

    narciso (d1f714)

  119. as for lawyers present company excepted, but there is a species that will take up the case of the future mastermind of the underwear bomber attempt, and the Benghazi consulate assault, long before they defend these boys, mr. phillips seems to be ward Churchill, but more authentic, a radical community organizer,

    narciso (d1f714)

  120. one of these days these virtue-signalling social justice twats are going to get a kid lynched good and proper

    all in the course of an afternoon or weekend

    i hope it’s not anyone i know

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  121. Bort,

    I didn’t walk back my view.

    “It’s boring” yeah, correcting children and manchildren who refuse to think for themselves certainly is.

    I have no idea what you mean by this. You did not correct any fact or argument I made. Take a chill pill.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  122. did you see where the kid’s name is all over jack douchey’s twatter as well as the names of his parents and where they work?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  123. 127: Sorry, Mr. Feet, it’s people like Dustin (and, it appears, Paul Montagu and Dave) who enable the uglier SMASH RACISM! and DEMOCRACY NOW! and PUNCH SMIRKING WHITE PEOPLE! antifa extremists by always being willing to believe the most extreme version of events, repeating the lies and half-truths for days afterward, excusing unfair and draconian measures against the alleged racists, couching corrections made as personal attacks and slow-walking corrections while always volunteering that MAYBE them kids deserved it for wearing MAGA hats, and all sorts of behavior that individually on a single event may be excusable but when repeated predictably for every single news event out there screams ‘actual malice’.

    May they receive the due divine penalties for their reprobate and unrepentant minds, because they sure as hell won’t listen to us mere humans.

    Bort (d0028e)

  124. 129- ding ding ding we have a winner. And people have taken me to task for intellectually lazy Flynn / North comparisons.

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  125. jack douchey and mark zuckertwat have designed their platforms to serve the narrative not the truth Mr. Bort

    a huge number of people just don’t comprehend this much less understand the ramifications

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  126. And is it wrong that my initial biased response to this kerfuffle plus sub zero wind chills had me binge watch the Netflix series Frontier.

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  127. except the kid isn’t even racist Mr. Dustin he was just standing there thinking happy thoughts about fetuses when Injun Joe started molesting him with his obscene mongolian throat singing

    Good point. I will paraphrase: your side is in the right because it is the biggest victim.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  128. I referred earlier to the times who have ‘covered with a pillow’ the holomodor, the cultural revolution, and year zero-2, until it stopped moving,

    https://reason.com/blog/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-video

    narciso (d1f714)

  129. yes yes my side is correct cause they didn’t do racism on Injun Joe

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  130. this fellow, who was enabled by Robert mueller to make dr. hatfill’s life a living hell for nearly four years:

    https://babalublog.com/2019/01/20/despite-new-york-times-propaganda-communist-cubas-healthcare-system-would-be-deadly-in-the-u-s/

    narciso (d1f714)

  131. The Left relies on Clemens’s observation that a lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.

    Too few are interested in getting the facts straight before verbalizing their judgment. Which is a shame given how often these initial stories are shown to be baseless.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  132. happyfeet,

    I thought your side’s argument was that it is impossible to know if the punk who was behaving like a racist truly had any racist thoughts in his head. If you REALLY think this, then at best you’re not saying I’m wrong… you’re just saying you don’t know one way or the other. Maybe the kid was what he totally appeared to be, and maybe he was innocent and accidentally got in that elderly man’s face and acted like a disrespectful punk with noble secret thoughts.

    Of course my point of view is that we see what we see and can draw reasonable conclusions.

    Bort, I see from your next comment you are mentally ill. I apologize for troubling you so much. Bless your heart.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  133. no that’s not what happened he was being a sweet kid and just standing there when smelly old Injun Joe came up making these disgusting guttural noises

    but he just stood there calmly even though Injun Joe began to get closer and closer and closer (Injun Joe has serious boundary issues) to where you can see on the guy’s face he’s wondering what Injun Joe’s deal is

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  134. oh the producer for ‘beauty and the beast’ wants to put the kids in a woodchipper, well they hung the huntress in effigy in west Hollywood for less, as well as set fire to her church, crime unsolved 10 years later,

    narciso (d1f714)

  135. 144… that’ll teach him to be a teenage hoodlum!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  136. Jack Morrissey protected his tweets

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  137. Black Israelites, and militant American indian activists, yet Dreher still holds to the Benedictine notion, of isolation from society as someone else put it ‘we will not let you be uninvolved’

    narciso (d1f714)

  138. so a counter narrative has to be formed, to buttress the failure of the woman’s march, which was in turn prompted by an all too accurate description of personnel management at nbc and cbs,

    narciso (d1f714)

  139. On that note, Narciso, did Bibi know something we didnt re “infiltrators”?

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  140. sigh, well it was good while it lasted,

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/01/sexiest-russian-collusion-story-bites-the-dust/

    the particulars re cair and linda sarsour probably,

    narciso (d1f714)

  141. @132. Wolf Moon; pack-a-jackals, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  142. i’m so excited i love when we do moon stuff

    the neighbors all come out with their dogs and act all midwestern

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  143. Bort is Mr. VPN (that stands for “Virtual Pedophile Network” because pedos use it to mask their ISPs) who trolls here with a new handle every other day peddling the Neo-Nazi perspective. He was “Father Jerry” yesterday.

    nk (dbc370)

  144. smelly old Injun Joe came up making these disgusting guttural noises

    I think singing and playing his drum was part of the point of his Indigenous Peoples March. If someone is as disgusted with indigenous culture as you are, perhaps they shouldn’t go to the Indigenous Peoples March in the first place.

    Shouting over their song with Trump slogans is disrespectful, as is getting in someone’s face. I think the meaning of taunting and shouting over a cultural display with ‘build that wall’ is plain. i don’t know Mr. Phillips’s politics, and eventually this thing will be overplayed by democrats. There’s no way for the GOP to control fringe elements making their party appear frankly just plain evil. Unfortunately, the party has embraced a president that has no morals so this kind of stuff has a lot more power these days.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  145. the history channel (snorfle) has a new series about the very dry project blue book, but it’s gone decidedly showtime if you get my drift,

    narciso (d1f714)

  146. Bort is Christoph? What a joke.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  147. indigenous culture = fast food and alcoholism and food stamps and a check cashing place in every strip mall, which is the primary architectural mode

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  148. I went to catholic high school, I’m under no allusions but I’m not going to allege things that have no foundation.

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  149. @152. Mooning is midwestern messaging, Mr. Feet.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  150. Illusions, whereas when dems do evil as in moloch minions the accountability is long in coming as in the 5th circuit decision this week.

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  151. In Minnesota if you need a democrat to win an election you would go to the nearest Indian Reservation in your district for a box or two of ballots in your favor.
    Cost $Firewater.

    mg (8cbc69)

  152. “There is a nearly two-hour video of the incident in which a group of about five black individuals from the Black Hebrew Israelites shout abuse at Catholics and Trump supporters near the Lincoln Memorial. “You believe in a f***** child molester,” they shout. “The Purge is coming.” “Christ is coming back to kick your cracker asses.” Etc. One youth, apparently part of the Covington group, takes off his shirt, leads the group in what looks like a choreographed school cheer (this appears consistent with the account one student provided to WKRC TV in Cincinnati), everyone joins in, then most of them sit down or take a knee at about the 1:12 mark. At that point Phillips emerges from the crowd and walks up to the kids with his drum. The kids get up and start dancing and jumping again.

    A lot of people were making videos of the incident. At least one of these videos, it appears, was taken by an ally of Phillips. Yet I haven’t come across a video that shows the Covington kids chanting “build the wall,” much less “attacking” black people as Phillips says.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/nathan-phillips-lied-the-media-bought-it/

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  153. @155. What’s saucer to a goose is just geese from Gander.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  154. Fusion GPS the real life wolfram and hart, gave us the dossier as well as brought the pillows for stem Express and Theranos

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  155. Ah Kyle Smith, last seen gnashing his teeth over the free ‘redacted’ army back in 2012,

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  156. speaking of messaging

    As for the putatively Catholic students from Covington, they might as well have just spit on the cross and got it over with.

    – Nicholas Frankovich, 1/20/19

    this is a goofy thing to say and it’s so goofy i think you can overlook how incendiary and hateful the intent behind this lil quip really is

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  157. As with time magazine, I imagine bill Buckley ponders in the ether, why did I bother?

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  158. oh btw if you have amazon prime they have a movie on there called The Hive which is a pretty neat little exercise in storytelling

    it’s loaded with enough charm and competence that you can overlook this or that and appreciate what they end up accomplishing here

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  159. C’mon KC!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  160. indigenous culture = fast food and alcoholism and food stamps and a check cashing place in every strip mall, which is the primary architectural mode

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 1/20/2019 @ 4:55 pm

    You’re not really a tap dancing penguin are you.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  161. am too

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  162. Part of a letter one of the Covington kids wrote to a Cincinnati TV station…

    “They forced their way into the center of our group. We initially thought this was a cultural display since he was beating along to our cheers and so we clapped to the beat. However, after multiple minutes of Mr Phillips beating his drum directly in the face of my friend . . . we became confused and started wondering what was happening. It was not until later that we discovered they would incriminate us as a publicity stunt. As a result, my friend faces expulsion for simply standing still and our entire school is being disparaged for a crime we did not commit.’”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  163. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/20/2019 @ 5:04 pm
    The video you yourself linked in comment 40 shows the Covington kids surrounding a much smaller group of Leftists, jeering at the Leftists, although I couldn’t make out many words. Apparently each one was yelling his own thing, so possibly some were continuing with the school cheer (you can clearly hear them doing that before Mr Indian Elder walks up to them), and some were chanting Build the Wall. But for all I could hear they might have been yelling Allahu Akbar…

    The kids allowed themselves to be provoked. I hope someone at the school sits down with them and and helps them figure out what to do and what not to do when cellphone cameras are around.

    Kishnevi (546427)

  164. Well that’s the power of narrative, if they had been shouting the shahada, rest assured this story would see the light of day.

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  165. In the memoir by the Griffith missionary clan about their time in Zimbabwe they relate the wave of attacks against their brethren by the like of Mugabe and related groups, that Carter and callaghan abetted through inaction

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  166. Its par for the course, the right has to fight the activist groups as well as the government as in wisconsin:

    https://www.wethegoverned.com/ag-fergusons-persecution-of-tim-eyman-eymans-plea-and-a-creepy-ag-employee/?fbclid=IwAR0oWqcymYQKcNLx5NFR83NqDLY7lawfs9hPUKPHr5eX69sl95_q5-0elsM

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  167. There are many other videos out there, kishnevi, I linked the 9 minute one because it gave more context. The 2 hour one is supposed to be the best, as it shows everything.

    OT, but what is with the use of 50 year old pop music in advertising these days?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  168. Boomers think they are entitled, mind you some of the stuff is better than modern fare. But still they can over do it

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  169. They are appealing to your age group, because those are the songs you supposedly grooved to in high school.(I am not that far behind you, of course.) Abd which the hipsters groove to now when they want to be retro.

    BTW, the video I was talking about was the 9 minute one.

    Kishnevi (546427)

  170. “The teen is not smirking in this clip, and Phillips [the Native American who was supposedly harassed] has an entourage with cameras. One of the Native activists argues with a Covington teen, who argues back. This and other clips have shown the Indian activists racially taunting the teens, saying things like ‘go back to Europe.’ Phillips has claimed that the teens were chanting ‘build the wall!,’ but that isn’t in any of the videos that circulated Saturday. Based on what can actually be seen and heard, it’s looks as if Phillips and his crew sought out Catholic teenagers and tried to make them uncomfortable. And of course, they recorded it…”

    Read it all. Looks like the racist kids meme is just more fake news.

    https://www.thenewneo.com/2019/01/20/reporting-on-each-other-the-covington-boys-the-native-american-and-the-smart-phone-vs-the-telescreen/

    harkin (e6b10c)

  171. its looks as if Phillips and his crew sought out Catholic teenagers and tried to make them uncomfortable

    sounds like Phillips and his crew could be priests even

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  172. How did this group happen to be anywhere near the prolife rally?

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  173. Age-dependent jokes:
    My doctor told me to stay away from saturated fats. I told him, no worries, I haven’t played pool since college.

    nk (dbc370)

  174. Maybe publishing at 3 am, should have been the tipoff

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/exclusive-turmoil-inside-national-review-over-covington-catholic-story-rich-lowry-losing-control/ The white togas at Nr are spattered with their anchor_composer=false

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  175. @174. The gov’t is shutdown; the littered Mall museums and monuments are shuttered, a bad winter storm is moving through the area over a holiday weekend and there’s good football on the TeeVee.

    So much for a Catholic school education.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  176. Here’s the entire video… I think… https://twitter.com/ASimplePatriot/status/1086984411508297729

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  177. Narciso, according to the full statement by the kid which Col H excerpted in comment 173, the kids were told by their chaperones to meet the buses at the Lincoln Memorial at 5:30, and that’s why the kids were there. The March for Life or whatever it is called was apparently over for the day, and the kids were getting ready to go to their hotel or back to Covington, depending on whatever their arrangements were.
    So apparently the Leftists and Black Hebrews were wandering around trying to provoke prolife attendees, but not near the March itself.

    The kid’s full statement was posted by someone in the Twitter thread Col H linked back at comment 40, if you want to read it for yourself.

    Kishnevi (546427)

  178. Reason lays out the smear:

    https://reason.com/blog/2019/01/20/covington-catholic-nathan-phillips-video

    Think any of the ‘grinning-just-like-the-KKK’ folks will double down?

    harkin (e6b10c)

  179. This is their most feral offshoot:

    http://www.apologeticsindex.org/n04.html

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  180. No, but Trump supporters make these people behave the way they do. They are justified.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  181. What a game!!!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  182. It doesn’t matter that they retract, the point is to let the story percolate like a slow acting poison, much like the buzzard feed carcass or the times blood libel against the huntress, (rarified by a ny appellate judge) that is the purpose of these stories

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  183. “Fudge bars!!!”

    —- Andy Reid

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  184. Overtime.

    Patriots defense is at fault here, when you consider that KC scored more points in the 4th quarter than both teams combined did in the first three.

    Kishnevi (546427)

  185. ALINSKY’S RULES FOR RADICALS (UPDATED):
    Rule 14. When you harass a bunch of sixteen-year old Catholic school children, always bring an American Indian and claim that he’s a Vietnam War veteran. This will make the #FakeNewsMedia immediately take your side.

    nk (dbc370)

  186. Now, the Rams get to avenge an 18 season wrong.

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  187. Answer to whether i have seen a more punchable face, yes, yes I have. But I will leave it at that. I hope this kid gets a scholarship to the college of his choice and I hope Mr. Azlan loses his job if he has one.

    JRH (fe281f)

  188. WINNING

    mg (8cbc69)

  189. From Wikipedia
    Since the turn of the century, Boston’s professional sports teams have won eleven championships: five by the Patriots (Super Bowls XXXVI (2001), XXXVIII (2003), XXXIX (2004), XLIX (2014), and LI (2016)), four by the Red Sox (2004, 2007, 2013, and 2018) and one each by the Celtics (2008) and the Bruins (2011) respectively. Their sports teams have also appeared an additional ten times as league finalists: five by the Revolution (2002, 2005, 2006, 2007, and 2014), three by the Patriots (Super Bowls XLII (2007), XLVI (2011), and LII (2017)) and one each by the Celtics (2010) and the Bruins (2013) respectively. The recent sporting success of their teams has given rise to the city’s monicker as the “City of Champions”,[5][6][7][8] and “Titletown”.[9][10][11]

    In the 2000s alone, Boston’s professional teams had arguably the most successful decade in sports history, winning six championships (three by the Patriots, two by the Red Sox and one by the Celtics),[12] while also appearing an additional five times as league finalists (four by the Revolution, one by the Patriots).

    When the Bruins won the 2011 Stanley Cup Finals, the city of Boston became the first city in the 21st century to have all four of its major professional league teams win a league championship, and became the only city to ever have championships in all four major professional leagues within a ten-year span, accomplishing this feat in a span of six years, four months, and nine days (from the Patriots’ championship win on February 6, 2005 to the Bruins’ championship win on June 15, 2011).[13] This sporting achievement was what Dan Shaughnessy of Sports Illustrated dubbed as Boston completing the “Grand Slam of North American sports.”[14]

    The Bruins reaching the 2011 Stanley Cup Finals also allowed Boston to join Philadelphia as being the only cities to have had all of their teams play in each of the four major North American professional sports leagues’ title rounds since 2000. In addition, Boston beat out Philadelphia for playing in all of the “big” league championship rounds in the shortest time in the new millennium by doing so within a span of three years, seven months, and four days (from the Red Sox’s World Series win on October 28, 2007, to the Bruins playing game 1 of the 2011 Stanley Cup Finals on June 1, 2011); it took nine years for Philadelphia to achieve this in contrast. However, Philadelphia holds the all-time record for achieving this feat, having set the record much earlier between 1980 and 1981 when all four major league teams played in their respective championship games within an eight month span. When the Bruins reached the 2013 Stanley Cup Finals, Boston became the only city to have had all of their major league teams play in their leagues’ championship title rounds two times or more this century.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_in_Boston

    Kishnevi (546427)

  190. And that quote obviously does not reflect tonight’s game.

    Kishnevi (546427)

  191. Patriots offensive line dominated the game.

    mg (8cbc69)

  192. Kid’s response. He’s obviously a great kid with a bright future. May God be with him and his family.

    https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1087163131166629891

    JRH (fe281f)

  193. the kid’s great but the sleazy fascist Catholic Church pooped its dirty pants again

    what a butt-nasty organization its devolved into

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  194. oopers *it’s* devolved into i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  195. It’s certainly lacking in real conviction, except for skydragon spotting.

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  196. it’s very disappointing cause these things never come back once they go to poop

    look at the episcopalians

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  197. Where’s the regs in here who earlier equated this kid with the klan?

    Crawled back under your rocks I hope.

    Andrew Hodge
    @PikePlaceTechie
    1) Yesterday was supposed to be a day of celebration for my middle brother Alex, who got married last night. Instead my family had to deal with the fallout of my youngest brother #MichaelHodge being falsely accused for standing & smiling in front of an indigenous man with a drum

    2) People then proceeded to spam my family with harassments and threats of physical violence. We then find out our parents address was posted online. If that wasn’t enough, our family operated business has been slandered and attacked.

    3) No one reviews evidence or does any due diligence, they immediately escalate things to a state of frenzy over much of nothing. The zealots scream for the head of #MichaelHodge knowing that their will be zero consequences to them if anything happens to him

    4) My parents, uncles, & aunts, receive messages stating they are pieces of shit parents and won’t be able to protect #MichaelHodge forever… seriously what kind of behavior is this?

    5) #MichaelHodge is the best kid I know. He volunteers for Special Olympics (took them skiing this Thursday) is involved in the church youth group, doesn’t drink/smoke (volunteer member of the Drugs Free Club of America) and is an aspiring chef

    6) People then started circulating articles of him regarding his dreams and goals of being a chef, finds the college he plans on attending and proceed to blow them up encouraging them to rescind offer and calling him a racist POS…

    7) You reach out saying how “terrible” of a family we are, defame us, threaten us, and you know nothing about us. Yet you circulate the information and spam us like it is the only “truth” that has ever existed in your lives

    8) You condemned my parents for being horrible role models, yet you jumped to conclusions and were ready to string up an innocent dude? Is that what you are teaching your children/family? I sure hope not….

    9)It saddens me people have nothing better to do on Saturday then scour the internet for drama & then dig up info on a family & rile up an army to attack them.Hold yourselves to a higher standard, set a better example for your sphere of influence, we will all be better off for it

    harkin (e6b10c)

  198. Yes Henry Tudor wonders what was the point

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  199. Some of these people… it’s hard to understand why they are this way: https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Screen-Shot-2019-01-20-at-22.40.55.png

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  200. Forgot to ** one cuss word in previous post, please edit and release.

    harkin (e6b10c)

  201. It’s in their nature, coronello.

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  202. Yes Henry Tudor wonders what was the point
    For Henry VIII the point was government telling the Church what to do. So in matters of principle he would align with the Democrats.

    Kishnevi (20d062)

  203. And more… whaddya think, Paul M? Too good to be false? https://twitter.com/AsheSchow/status/1087155499940958208

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  204. His denomination was one of convenience taking a tip from tyndall who he put to death, no good deed, but it lined with the other churches on the continent.

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  205. Lol at the Wapo, they just can’t help it, facts be dam*ed.

    People laugh when they hear “this is why Trump won”….

    And yet stuff like this is exactly why Trump won.

    And they not only continue but rejoice in their prostituting their profession.

    harkin (e6b10c)

  206. Henry VIII wondered that when Anne Boleyn only popped one daughter, and he found that he didn’t even need to divorce her, he could just have her head chopped off.

    And don’t encourage happyfeet.

    nk (dbc370)

  207. Yes, sh!t like this is why got Trump.

    nk (dbc370)

  208. Well research now indicates he was the one shooting blanks as it were.

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  209. Google “racist kid” and he’s at the top. I mean, yeah of course he is as the most famous racist kid in the country, with tens of millions agreeing, and only a fringe defending his conduct.“

    Are you actually proud of this statement and the fact a smear became googleized conventional wisdom?

    And “tens of millions agreeing” to a complete falsehood is a good description of the leftosphere.

    Walk tall.

    harkin (e6b10c)

  210. Well he falls for the narrative like a halo jumper almost every time.

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  211. Ah buzzard feed still covering itself with…I don’t think you call it glory.

    Narciso (f8ab50)

  212. Hard to believe some of the b.s. the no trumpers wrap themselves up in, but I love seeing them eat that steaming b.s.

    mg (8cbc69)

  213. 2 weeks until the New England Patriot Invitational.

    mg (8cbc69)

  214. Needs to be a sequel to the Chickensh!t Club.
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/20/doj-purdue-pharma-opioid-sackler/

    mg (8cbc69)

  215. Where is Eric holder, who defended Purdue before the supreme court. Mary jo white ended up being Obama’s head of the sec, where he employed khuzaimi

    Narciso (9b4e23)

  216. She employed khuzaimi who gave the biggest subprime players a get out of jail free card.

    Narciso (9b4e23)

  217. When the future head of the sec and atty general are not focused on in the course of the investigation.

    Narciso (9b4e23)

  218. She did set up the Enron task force that weissman and wray were part of, so there is that.

    Narciso (9b4e23)

  219. Everything that is wrong in America in one headline, one photo, and one sentence. Here’ the headline: https://www.npr.org/2019/01/20/686606008/food-assistance-payments-came-early-but-have-to-last-until-march
    Here’s the sentence:
    Rubich works full-time at an AT&T call center, and her wife stays at home with their two children.

    nk (dbc370)

  220. What heinous acts are Those Damn Catholic School Boys up to today!?!?

    Colonel Haiku (2184e5)

  221. Everything that is wrong in America in one headline, one photo, and one sentence.
    Here’ the headline:
    https://www.npr.org/2019/01/20/686606008/food-assistance-payments-came-early-but-have-to-last-until-march
    Here’s the sentence:

    Rubich works full-time at an AT&T call center, and her wife stays at home with their two children.

    Click the link for the photo. That says it all.

    nk (dbc370)

  222. 233… the lady should ease up on teh carb throttle.

    Colonel Haiku (2184e5)

  223. and still dirty Mhitt Rhomney and his slicked-up little pleasure-bot Paul Ryan could never bring themselves to talk about cutting NPR’s budget

    we have to pay and pay and pay for their sick hateful fake news

    this is not the correct policy

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  224. Lesbian mamma June, what fresh hell is this?

    Narciso (9b4e23)

  225. And that’s how fail weasel Jon tester still stays in office.

    Narciso (9b4e23)

  226. One has to want to be healthy. Missing payments= Mom missing a few meals.

    mg (8cbc69)

  227. Big Sky
    Bigger Belly

    mg (8cbc69)

  228. overheated california cougar kamala harris will be heavily courting the montana lesbian food stamp demographic

    but will it be enough

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  229. They probably ‘harvested’ enough votes there

    Narciso (9b4e23)

  230. That gal puts 10 more lbs on and they’ll be reachin’ fer teh bear spray.

    Colonel Haiku (2184e5)

  231. When you hear about “children going hungry in America”, you know why.

    nk (dbc370)

  232. sitsmo

    she sits mo than she does anything else

    mg (8cbc69)

  233. mama’s doing all the hard work foraging for the family she deserves an extra loaf of bread

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  234. Borstal Boys Catholic Boys

    News at 5; how I hate teh lies
    Read my paper in the morning, ink is barely dry
    No parish priest ever made a man of them, boy, no no

    You know the steps are tall, and the school boys scheme
    There’s no one there that’s more than seventeen
    Bet your life there’s some fun today, Mr. Lincoln, listen

    An old man beating on a drum is there
    You dance, you’re jumpin’ and you’re gettin’ air
    Man said you actin’ all white, ain’t got no place ‘round here, boy

    See the dopes all screamin’
    Such a senseless waste of time
    Another way to bash Trump
    Watch as they line up
    Like they got a sign up
    Not me, baby, no no

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  235. I think this is going to be the anti-Parkland for normal Americans. Those could be our kids.

    nk (dbc370)

  236. jack douchey’s twatter lynches children

    jack douchey’s twatter ruins lives and careers and families

    people have been looking the other way for a long time now, blithely twitting and twatting away in douchey’s sewer

    but not me

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  237. Having seen more video and read through more accounts such as here, here and here, my conclusions:
    1. I saw what I saw, the eyes are the window to the soul, and I saw racism in the eyes of that kid. The PR firm that communicated his message did their job.
    2. If there’s any one person or group to blame, it’s the Black Hebrews. They’re a bunch of loopy loos and they were purposely being inciteful.
    3. Anyone who thought that engaging with the Black Hebrews was a good idea made a bad mistake. Like with LaRouchies hanging around post offices or downtown street corners, the best course of action is walk around them, leave them to their devices and, whatever you do, don’t strike up a debate with them. It’s what you do with fringies who can’t be reasoned with anyway. The chaperones let the kids down by not steering them away from those whackadoodles.

    Paul Montagu (27e440)

  238. popehat joined the lynch mob too

    so did jugs mccain

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  239. the eyes are the window to the soul, and I saw racism in the eyes of that kid. 

    With your very own soul window eyes…

    Days early you wrote this:

    No one else in the media has confirmed the Buzzfeed story, and not for lack of trying, which is good reason to be cautious.

    Paul Montagu (9583ef) — 1/18/2019 @ 6:09 pm

    Was it the sight of a MAGA hat passing through your eyes and into your soul that caused you to disregard your own sage advice?

    BuDuh (bd6e71)

  240. “1. I saw what I saw, the eyes are the window to the soul, and I saw racism in the eyes of that kid.”
    __ _

    “Ah, but the strawberries, that’s, that’s where I had them, they laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt, and with geometric logic, that a duplicate key to the ward room icebox did exist, and I’ve had produced that key if they hadn’t pulled the Caine out of action.”
    __ _

    Blame the chaperones! Not the folks shouting “You white people go back toEurope”!

    harkin (e6b10c)

  241. what public relations campaign, they were teenagers on a trip to dc. now who let the crazy nazguls like the black Israelites, and chief running mouth phillips, fmr. marine recon ranger, according to his profile in teen vogue, winning the future,

    narciso (d1f714)

  242. Wow. That (“racism in the eyes”) is his story and he’s sticking to it. From this point forward, I’ll remember that every time I pass over a comment.

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  243. I noted just like the ghcq leak in 2017, set the stage for the j20 riots, so this torchin nothingberger framed last years anniversary,

    narciso (d1f714)

  244. Let him look all night thru your soul windows
    Judge your mind as only he can
    Suss you out and judge you, young man
    Never cuttin’ slack, nooooo

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  245. Was it the sight of a MAGA hat passing through your eyes and into your soul that caused you to disregard your own sage advice?

    No. Like I said, I saw more video and read more accounts. Some conclusions changed, one didn’t.

    Paul Montagu (27e440)

  246. nobody does racism on native americans that’s like doing racism on homeless kittens

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  247. They should go the way of all soul-window children… http://ace.mu.nu/archives/maga%20kids%20tweet.jpg

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  248. The chaperones let the kids down by not steering them away from those whackadoodles.

    The kids, sixteen-year old kids, and their chaperones, had to stay there waiting for their bus.
    Now, one might ax, why it was not the chaperones on the front line helping Geronimo keep time on his drum with their fists on his face when he got as close to them as he did to young Nick.

    nk (dbc370)

  249. More from the soul-readers:

    “Erik “pay the teachers, man”, Abris
    @AbrisErik
    Look at the sh*t-eating grin on those young white slugs’ faces. Just pervers pleasure at weilding a false dominion they’ve been taught their whole life was their devine right. F**king die.

    I don’t know what it says about me but I’ve truly lost the ability to articulate the hysterical rage, nausea and heartache this makes me feel. I just want these people to die. Simple as that. Every single one of them. And their parents”

    Yee haw! Let’s kill em all!!

    harkin (e6b10c)

  250. I’m pretty sure that if the chaperones were moms from my daughter’s school, that’s what would have happened.

    nk (dbc370)

  251. The teenagers were clearly in an unexpected situation…and were being unnecessarily provoked by the supposedly “adult” Black Hebrew Israelites (probably not a typical situation in Kentucky). Another “adult”, Nathan Phillips, then claims to be trying the stand between the supposedly about-to-attack students and the four black agitators. There is scant evidence that Phillips is actually attempting to de-fuse anything or that the students were doing anything beyond chanting pep cheers…and seems Phillips was more interested in creating a photo-op…for this imagined narrative of oppression. Supposedly his path forward was blocked and he couldn’t retreat…whatever that exactly means. Nothing appears to have been said directly to Phillips and there was no physical altercation. It does not appear that he was in any way…abused. What is the news here?

    Clearly a lot of the initial outrage was created by the photo….and the supposed arrogant MAGA-hat-wearing teen being rude to the old heroic Native veteran…learning his behavior from Trump…..then outrage….doxing and retribution. All before a single fact is seriously learned and analyzed. We are more interested in drama…and painting our own narratives than in truth…and being measured. This is not going to end well…

    AJ_Liberty (ec7f74)

  252. Nathan Phillips is a dirty liar who incites child-lynchings

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  253. oh look who’s associated with this outfit, leftist conspiracy theorist Daniel sheehan, of the peak crazy christic institute,

    https://www.prweb.com/releases/lakota/justice/prweb8897526.htm

    narciso (d1f714)

  254. They AIM to please.

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  255. C’mon CNN, throw off teh reprobate shackles and do the right thing for once…

    https://static.pjmedia.com/instapundit/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Screen-Shot-2019-01-21-at-11.40.12-AM.png

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  256. Damn chaperones. They with their God-like powers to be everywhere and see everything that a group of teenagers do. Or in this case don’t do. Why they didn’t form a ring around all those kids at the exact instant that this happened is a mystery. But hey, Chaperones work in mysterious ways. I’m sure it’s all part of their Great Plan.

    JSkorcher (4aeca3)

  257. Punch back twice three times as hard!

    https://twitter.com/thecjpearson/status/1087115979807748096

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  258. And yet they say comedy is dying… https://mobile.twitter.com/curingagirl/status/1087238528260628480/photo/2

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  259. just have the medusa stare at herself, it turns out the romero institute, is the mothership for the christics, they lingered around Miami till 1989, till judge Lawrence king threw them out on their keester,

    narciso (d1f714)

  260. “Damn chaperones”

    Yeah I would bet the chaperones were somewhat over-whelmed by the situation…especially the crude and confrontational behavior of the four black men. In the end, nothing bad happened…and the teens left the scene…nothing bad until the internet worked its magic. I guess the teachable moment is to not wear MAGA hats out where you can be engineered into a meme….actually just don’t wear the hats…people assume the worst.

    AJ_Liberty (ec7f74)

  261. https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1087153081941401601

    Soul Window Watchers heal thyselves!

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  262. the weak hasn’t even really gotten started and we’re already at peak stupid:

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/20/kavanaugh-perjury-impeachment/

    narciso (d1f714)

  263. 272 & 273. Ugh! Lookum like Pounds By Potomac wentum to getum hair and gotum scalped.

    nk (dbc370)

  264. Mind you these are many of the same people who virtue signal about bullying.

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  265. It looks like the lads are asking for info on anyone who has described them as racist, etc. in print/online. Hence the scramble to apologize or just quietly delete defamatory posts/comments.

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  266. they’re not public figures and they’re not attention-seeking trash like the parkland kiddies

    they’re just kids and Meghan McCain tried to destroy their futures

    that’s not social justice

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  267. They’ve got the SOUL WINDOW DIVINERS minding their p’s and q’s…

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  268. Hey… not a bad name for a band!

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  269. Teh Black Hebrew Trash Talkers

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  270. Brian Stelter and teh Puerco Chingaderos…

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)


  271. Guillotine Respecter™
    @ReallyNotAMoose
    This is funny. Phillips’ story changed between his NYT and his WaPo interview. In the NYT he said he went to the center of the group to pray for them, in WaPo he said he was trying to get up the stairs but the group blocked him.

    ___

    Imagine that.

    harkin (e6b10c)

  272. once again we have another disturbing example of how being a “veteran” has absolutely no correlation with good character

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  273. The Vanishing American Virtue Signalers.

    nk (dbc370)

  274. Speaking of Hebrews, Ms. Weiss puts Congresslady Omar (D-IM) on notice.

    Paul Montagu (27e440)

  275. The people apologizing at least admit they were wrong. Hopefully they learn a lesson from this. The people doubling down… well they also show who they are.

    NJRob (4d595c)

  276. both of these groups are actually working together to refine the twatter lynching procedures Mr. Rob

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  277. Raise your hand if you are the result of a chaperone not doing his or her job.

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  278. Yes but there were no girls school in the area that time:
    https://archive.fo/ncOHU#selection-1425.0-1425.127

    A brief precis about chief running dog.

    Narciso (5a3688)

  279. Teh Unintended Consequences Blues Band!

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  280. Teh Trim Daddies!

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  281. https://dailycaller.com/2019/01/21/alyssa-milano-red-maga-hat-new-white-hood/

    Apparently the PR “MAGA Hat Trigger” campaign went through Milano’s eyes and into her soul as well.

    BuDuh (bd6e71)

  282. 1. I saw what I saw, the eyes are the window to the soul, and I saw racism in the eyes of that kid.
    Paul Montagu (27e440) — 1/21/2019 @ 8:36 am

    “I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy,” Bush said in remarks he later regretted. “. . . I was able to get a sense of his soul.”

    Munroe (6d2e49)

  283. When you come down to it, Hodge was the most mature person in the whole place.

    Phillips and crew seem to have wanted to provoke a reaction. And they did get jeered at by some of the kids, especially the younger ones: that can be seen very clearly in the 9 minute video. But Hodge seems to have decided to say and do nothing except stand in place. He did smirk, probably because he realized he was dealing with a leftist jackass who wanted to create an incident. But he kept his mouth shut and his hands to himself, which is better than most kids his age, and a lot of adults who ought to know better, managed.

    I will make one prediction. Mr Hodge and his family will make it their business to vote for Trump in 2020, given how badly the Left learned their Dale Carnegie lessons.

    Kishnevi (ea0f8c)

  284. Jamie Lee Curtis
    @jamieleecurtis
    17h
    There are two sides to every story. I made a snap judgment based on a photograph & I know better than to judge a book by its cover. I wasn’t there. I shouldn’t have commented. I’m glad there wasn’t violence. I hope theses two men can meet and find common ground as can WE ALL!
    __ _

    Victoria Brownworth
    @VABVOX
    Replying to
    @jamieleecurtis
    This is terribly disappointing. I thought you were someone dedicated to honesty and truth and here you are saying a press release convinced you that what you saw was false. What’s next–defense of Trump?

    DID YOU MISS THE MAGA HATS?
    __ _

    Jackx
    @Jackx4023
    Not just a press release…. extended video footage

    __ _

    The hats! The smile! MUST BE KKK!!!!

    harkin (e6b10c)

  285. i kinda get a kick out of everybody slobbering over the “elder”

    all that means is his casino checks never bounce

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  286. How many false stories have to be thrown out there for people to pump the brakes before rendering judgement?!?!

    There is an overriding mission on the part of certain people to keep us upset.

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  287. jack douchey designed his twatter to lynch first and ask questions later

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  288. I read this “elder” is a part of AIM and the bells go off.

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  289. Kirsten Powers
    @KirstenPowers
    Also at 1:18 the harassers yell “Y’all got one n***** in the crowd!” One of the boys turns around and holds up two fingers…another holds up one finger apparently referring to the one black boy in the group.

    How is this “shockingly little evidence of wrongdoing” — your words
    __ _

    Robby Soave
    @robbysoave
    The kid didn’t utter that reference, the hecklers did. Shortly after that—when the hecklers told the black kid that white people would kill him and steal his organs—his friends embraced him. Didn’t seem like they had any racial malice toward him
    ___

    Ang€la☀️
    @ms_babyrussell
    Replying to
    @KirstenPowers
    I don’t know if I’ve ever seen this much spin and desperation for a false narrative. Lunacy!
    __ _

    PaulFrantizek ❌
    Vile stuff here, leaving people with the impression that Covington Catholic kids used the n-word, while allowing space to squirm out with the ‘referencing’ word-play.

    Even by Fake News CNN standards, this is truly repugnant. Shame on you, #KirstenPowers.

    harkin (e6b10c)

  290. No other comments re: him… other than the wish may he bang on his drum all day.

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  291. Kirsten Powers literally used to bang Anthony Weiner

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  292. “Our political/journalistic class shows us what kind of people it is made up of every single day.”

    —- Glenn Reynolds

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  293. Maybe Kristin’s eyes told her soul exactly what happened. Has anyone looked into her eyes?

    BuDuh (bd6e71)

  294. Not if weiner’s already been there.

    Colonel Haiku (b51704)

  295. Checking facts and adding context are what journalists are paid to do. They fail miserably on a daily basis.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  296. Here’s something I said upthread:

    Just to be clear, I feel sorry for the kid. He did a stupid thing, and time will not be forgiving. he thought his mob was funny, but that doesn’t mean I think the mob gunning for his future is funny. It’s a shame people can’t learn from mistakes like this with lower stakes.

    Google “racist kid” and he’s at the top. I mean, yeah of course he is as the most famous racist kid in the country, with tens of millions agreeing, and only a fringe defending his conduct.

    It’s hard for me to respond to the stuff directed at me in this thread because that’s boring. Same few people seem to always want to make it about the commenters and not the issues, and I guess we come to these blogs for different reasons.

    Dustin (6d7686) — 1/20/2019 @ 3:15 pm

    The point of my comment was obvious. I think the kid could have learned a lesson from this, and I am critical of the mob trying to destroy his life. As an example, I note (and lament) that he’s defined as “racist kid.” It is very clear I am not happy he’s so famous for this reason, because he’s just a kid.

    Here’s Harkin’s description of what I said.

    “Google “racist kid” and he’s at the top. I mean, yeah of course he is as the most famous racist kid in the country, with tens of millions agreeing, and only a fringe defending his conduct.“

    Are you actually proud of this statement and the fact a smear became googleized conventional wisdom?

    And “tens of millions agreeing” to a complete falsehood is a good description of the leftosphere.

    Walk tall.

    harkin (e6b10c) — 1/20/2019 @ 9:11 pm

    He carefully cut out everything that would show what I meant, and inserted the complete opposite point. Instead of being critical of the mob, I’m the ringleader.

    Harkin also was dishonest in his description of my point that the KKK argues it isn’t racist, claiming I said that grinning is like the KKK.

    Harkin is not the only one who is simply not able to discuss politics or news without making it personal and expressing his anger about the other people commenting. Unfortunately to keep that up about people making points he doesn’t like, he had to lie.

    This kind of exchange is BORING. I hate participating in threads where I’ll have to constantly deal with personal attacks. OK, I get it, you guys realize the other people at the protest were terrible too, and that the native American guy was absolutely more of a hustler and a liar than we (and I) initially realized. The kid is definitely not as bad as he seemed from the shorter cuts of the video, but the truth is he still acted terribly because of how he chose to be provoked. I stand by the very comment Harkin distorted. I wish the kid could just learn from his mistake without lifelong consequences. I am not going to say someone is suddenly innocent just because they were provoked. Barring self-defense, responsibility rarely works that way. If you choose to walk through a giant political demonstration of any kind in 2019, you better develop some patience and thick skin. Is this kid some KKK-like evil? Of course not. And I don’t think anybody here said he was, though if you’re caught up in the gas-lighting you might be confused about that part.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  297. Can we make Steyn an American Treasure?
    https://www.steynonline.com/9148/the-drumbeat-of-the-mob

    mg (8cbc69)

  298. “Paul, you’re correct. Kid was a racist punk. People used to ask how white robes could be racist too, and they had that same grin on their faces while they asked. Don’t dignify them with a reaction.”
    Dustin (6d7686) — 1/20/2019 @ 10:34 am

    “Is this kid some KKK-like evil? Of course not. And I don’t think anybody here said he was, though if you’re caught up in the gas-lighting you might be confused about that part.”
    Dustin (6d7686) — 1/21/2019 @ 6:34 pm

    Munroe (6e411c)

  299. seriously

    Kirsten would take off all her clothes

    and then Anthony would take of all his clothes

    so neither of them would be wearing anything

    and then this simulacrum of passion would ensue and you’d have these icky fluids involved

    and then four minutes later they’d be watching CSPAN like nothing happened

    this was before obama-netflix was a thing i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  300. oopers *off* i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  301. That kid appears to have been completely innocent and I’ll be damned if I can find or see a single thing he did wrong.

    As John Hinderaker writes…

    “So, what has happened since? The Associated Press has refused to correct its lies. Liberals have threatened the families of the kids from Covington Catholic with death. Liberals have written to colleges, urging them to reject any applications from Covington Catholic students. Liberals have explicitly urged that the lives of the kids who innocently attended the March For Life be destroyed. Twitter has had no problem with tweets calling for violence, as long as the violence is directed against conservative teenagers.

    Where do you go when the whole world seems to be against you? You hire a lawyer. Which is what some of the Covington kids’ families reportedly have done. For whatever reason, intolerant liberals on Twitter are frantically deleting tweets denouncing the innocent Covington kids, and in some cases calling for violence against them. Maybe they are just embarrassed at being caught red-handed, lying and purveying hate. But when has that ever embarrassed a liberal?

    There is some evidence that the scrambling is due to the threat of litigation.”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  302. LOL, Munroe!

    BuDuh (3be8af)

  303. Gentlemen – start your injuns

    mg (8cbc69)

  304. Munroe and buduh, just because I both talked about the kid and the KKK in the same comment does not mean I said the kid was like the KKK. The KKK is a clear example of an obviously racist thing, which insists it is not racist, infamously grinning through its teeth at efforts to show it is. That was my point.

    The initial way I saw this, with the kids surrounding that man and chanting Trump slogans to the beat of his drum, very much in his face, now just seems like kids being provoked into trying to intimidate an old man. Still punks, but not really racist.

    I never said that all grinning, or that kid’s grinning, makes him equivalent to the KKK. Your attempt to muddy the waters and skip Harkin’s claim that I supported the mob mentality when I repeatedly was critical of it is gas-lighting. You’re trying to spin things so that personal attacks are OK, and the person being attacked is the villain for having an opinion you didn’t agree with. Trump’s supporters at this blog do this all day long because they simply see no reason to respect anyone who doesn’t agree with them.

    It’s not enough for you to just say your point of view. You have to attack people who don’t agree. There’s a reason you guys pound the table so much. This is a good issue for your side. It’s very muddy, very ugly, and everyone was wrong, so it’s really useful for this endless Trump fan task of saying evil is innocent.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  305. What you have to understand is this old man is a tool, who sees virtue in defamation like with eastern Michigan, and disruption, I dont have to spell out who in your not so recent experience has that m.o, and whi has been protected for as many years as Phillip’s has been an activist.

    Narciso (8703aa)

  306. “with the kids surrounding that man and chanting Trump slogans to the beat of his drum, very much in his face,”

    Not corroborated by anyone.

    “It’s very muddy, very ugly, and everyone was wrong,”

    Those kids didn’t do anything wrong.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  307. i read where big chief lies-a-lot wasn’t even in vietnam

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  308. You have seen how this info OP has incited others to suggest murder as a solution, or perhaps merely assault and or proscription.

    Compared to that Lowry frankovich dreher soave Shapiro others on our side putatively plead misunderstanding, whimf

    Narciso (8703aa)

  309. Those kids didn’t do anything wrong.

    everyone of them lil guys i saw acted like they had daddies at home

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  310. oopers *every one* of them i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  311. But they unequivocal in what evil or stupid or ignorant Donald Trump, but the actual enemy the ones who are burning our institutions to the ground who are turning the next general into feral commissars and shock troops well they are just misunderstood.

    Narciso (8703aa)

  312. “so it’s really useful for this endless Trump fan task of saying evil is innocent.”

    Other than a few of the boys wearing MAGA hats, this incident had absolutely nothing to do with Trump. If some people are that bothered by a damn red hat, they need to attend some anger management classes.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  313. You see how they attacked mrs pence, for actually living out her beliefs, you think this ends with trump. You’re sorely mistaken.

    Narciso (8703aa)

  314. Not corroborated by anyone.
    Half of it is fact.
    That some of the kids surrounded the group of Leftists is a fact, and you can it for yourself in the 9 minute video. And some were making gestures that imply no respect for the Leftists.
    But there is so much noise and yelling and talking going on it’s not really possible to say what the kids were actually saying. And whatever they were saying, none of the Leftists felt intimidated or threatened.

    Kishnevi (dce4ce)

  315. What you have to understand is this old man is a tool, who sees virtue in defamation like with eastern Michigan, and disruption, I dont have to spell out who in your not so recent experience has that m.o, and whi has been protected for as many years as Phillip’s has been an activist.

    Narciso (8703aa) — 1/21/2019 @ 7:46 pm

    I do understand that. That guy was the villain here. I bought some of his lies because of how I saw those kids get in his face, in greater numbers, which looked (and was) like bullying. I did not expect that the old man had actually decided to instigate that reaction. My point about the kids needing to learn a lesson about not being provoked, on camera or not, has nothing to do with forgiving the other groups of racists present.

    Dustin (6d7686)

  316. Reports were that the kids were chanting school songs, watch the 2 hr video, kishnevi. And from EVERY video I’ve seen, the old man approached the kid, got well within an arm’s length, put his drum up near the kid’s right ear and commenced beating on it.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  317. a native american finally came to national promise and it turns out he’s a dirty lying child abuser

    that’s gotta be disappointing for some people

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  318. ugh

    prominence

    i think this tablet may be doing something on my words

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  319. Warren/Phillips/2020

    mg (8cbc69)

  320. You missed the whole thing with the Navajo code talking in ww 2, there hf. But with the forest fire dude being a paisan, I don’t blame ya.

    And of course the black Israelites were not intimated, they could lead that gaggle straight into Anacostia or over by Howard U..and them Boys knew that too.

    urbanleftbehind (b6a7f6)

  321. Yes that was 70 plus years ago, featured in windtalkers which had some brutal scenes at the opening and the end bookends

    Narciso (8703aa)

  322. Great Movie

    mg (8cbc69)

  323. Hacksaw ridge had some rather powerful images in it as well,

    Narciso (8703aa)

  324. Watching a great car chase in “The Seven- Ups”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  325. ‘74… lots of wide-track Pontiacs

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  326. Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 1/21/2019 @ 8:02 pm

    What you say is true, but the video does show some of the kids surrounding the Leftists at one point, and saying stuff at them. What’s not clear is what the kids were saying at that moment. Too much noise to know what they were saying.

    I usually wear a hat or baseball cap in public, because when I wear a skullcap, I get some very unfriendly looks from members of the demographic that is most supportive of Trump. It happened this morning, which is why it’s on my mind now. So the idea that white teenagers are bigot s is not something that is a total invention.

    Kishnevi (dce4ce)


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