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3/20/2018

President Trump Congratulates Putin On His Unsurprising Election Win

Filed under: General — Dana @ 4:21 pm

[guest post by Dana]

As we learned earlier this week, Incumbent President Vladimir Putin was re-elected by a wide margin. In his post, our host said: I’m looking forward to Trump issuing his congratulations. Well, here you go:

President Trump on Tuesday congratulated President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia on his recent re-election victory, but failed to ask him about either the fairness of the Russian vote, which Mr. Putin won with a lopsided margin, or about allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election.

Mr. Trump also did not raise Russia’s apparent role in a nerve agent attack on a former Russian spy and his daughter on British soil — an act that prompted the United States to join with Britain, France and Germany in denouncing the Russian government for violating international law.

Instead, in his phone call with Mr. Putin, the president focused on what the White House called “shared interests,” including North Korea, Ukraine and the escalating arms race between the United States and Russia. He said he and Mr. Putin were likely to meet soon to discuss those issues.

Trump later said that he was pleased with the conversation he had with Putin:

[I]n his phone call with Mr. Putin, the president focused on what the White House called “shared interests,” including North Korea, Ukraine and the escalating arms race between the United States and Russia. He said he and Mr. Putin were likely to meet soon to discuss those issues.

“We had a very good call,” Mr. Trump told reporters in the Oval Office, where he was meeting with Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman of Saudi Arabia. “We will probably be meeting in the not-too distant future to discuss the arms race, which is getting out of control.”

White House spokesperson Sarah Sanders defended the President’s call, and avoided making an assessment of whether the election was fair:

“We’re focused on our elections,” Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Tuesday when asked if Trump felt Russia’s election, which excluded several Putin critics and sparked accounts of potential vote tampering, was “free and fair.”

“We don’t get to dictate how other countries operate,” she said. “What we do know is that Putin has been elected in their country, and that’s not something that we can dictate to them, how they operate. We can only focus on the freeness and fairness of our elections.”

This is not how it has always been:

That attitude is a departure from decades of U.S. foreign policy, in which a succession of administrations have freely criticized anti-democratic events and elections in other nations.

As recently as March 2017, for example, the State Department issued a statement condemning Putin’s government for cracking down on peaceful anti-Putin protests, which the statement called “an affront to core democratic values.”

Gary Kasparov refused to play along:

kasparov

Some Capitol Hill reactions were less than enthusiastic. From John McCain:

An American president does not lead the free world by congratulating dictators on winning sham elections. And by doing so with Vladimir Putin, President Trump insulted every Russian citizen who was denied the right to vote in a free and fair election to determine their country’s future, including the countless Russian patriots who have risked so much to protest and resist Putin’s regime.

McCain also tweeted:

That #Putin had to work so hard to drive voter turnout shows the Russian people know his claim to power is a sham. The US stands with all Russians yearning for freedom. #RussiaElections2018

From Mitch McConnell, who although agreed that a president can call whoever he wants, felt this was not something he’d have chosen to do:

“When I look at a Russian election, what I see is a lack of credibility in tallying the results. … Calling [Putin] wouldn’t have been high on my list.”

Ironically, the President’s call was made on the same day that the Senate Intelligence Committee released a report with recommendations on how to safeguard future U.S. elections from hackers and others attempting to manipulate elections. Including Russia:

“The Russians were relentless in attempting to meddle in the 2016 elections, and they will continue their efforts to undermine public confidence in Western democracies and in the legitimacy of our elections,” Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, said at a news conference Tuesday.

To consider:

Trump is not alone in congratulating Putin — leaders in France, Germany and elsewhere have done so this week, as Barack Obama did in 2012. But past administrations certainly have seen it as America’s role to call balls and strikes when it comes to elections abroad, and weigh in when democratic institutions are being undermined. A departure from that approach would be welcomed not only by Putin, but other leaders of pseudo democracies around the world.

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

80 Responses to “President Trump Congratulates Putin On His Unsurprising Election Win”

  1. Hello.

    Dana (023079)

  2. Congratulations Putin.

    Dejectedhead (81690d)

  3. here’s the actual video it’s interesting how in this whole entire super-long post you were never once able to actually quote the words our president, President Donald Trump, used to “congratulate” Mr. Putin

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. i’d also be willing to bet you all my starwars that in a free and fair election Mr. Putin would earn a greater percentage of the vote in Russia than doddering cowardpig war hero John McCain got in his sloppy and ill-fated run against food stamp

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  5. So Ivan goes to vote. The poll worker gives him ballot in sealed envelope. He say: “Here is your ballot. Just drop it inside ballot box.” Ivan goes to open envelope. Poll worker say: Stop! What you try to do?” Ivan say: “I want to see how I voted.” Poll worker say: “No! You cannot do that. In new Russia, we have secret election.”

    nk (dbc370)

  6. perhaps Ivan will have more flexibility after the election

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. ‘Nice private military contractor, it would be a shame if something went qrong’

    narciso (d1f714)

  8. I watched the video on TV… meh. So stiff sanctions aren’t enough. Maybe it’s a case of speaking softly… yeah, I know… Trump?!?! And carry a reasonably large stick.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  9. 5… you’re slipping, nk. No potato?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  10. happyfeet, this is directly from the White House’s own readout of the President’s call with Putin:

    President Trump congratulated President Putin on his March 18 re-election…

    Dana (023079)

  11. ok that tracks with President Trump’s own account of the call in the video at #3 where he talked about how he wants to talk about the arms race that’s been in the news

    Russia and China have hypersonic nuclear missiles now that our incompetent trannied-up mattis military has no way to counter (in spite of us spending $700B a year on these bozos)

    so that’s some of the context there

    plus President Trump goes on to say that he wants to discuss our two countries’ shared and conflicting interests in North Korea and Syria and Ukraine

    so it sounds like President Trump is responsibly engaging Russia and has a lot of clarity on what the US interest is in these discussions

    Meghan’s cowardslut crash dummy daddy, on the other hand, thinks this is the time for the US to be relentless in an attempt to meddle in Russian politics and undermine public confidence in the electoral process over there – perhaps he has a dossier of unverified information we could share with President Putin that might help “level the playing field” as they say?

    He’s kind of the go-to guy for that sort of thing.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  12. One of the more intersting takes was fmr Obama nsc staffer vinegrad in the basilisk who wants to leverage prince salman against Russia, hello did she fall off a turnip truck?

    narciso (d1f714)

  13. wants to leverage prince salman against Russia

    That would be prince salman of US-allied Sodomy Arabia, yes? He recently won a fantastic electoral victory and to my knowledge our president, President Donald Trump, has yet to congratulate him on his victory Mr. narciso.

    what’s up with that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  14. “President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential election,” the White House said in a late Friday afternoon statement (read: news dump) about the Friday morning phone call between the two leaders.

    “President Obama highlighted achievements in U.S.-Russia relations over the past three years with President Medvedev, including cooperation on Afghanistan, the conclusion and ratification of the START agreement, Russia’s recent invitation to join the World Trade Organization (WTO) and cooperation on Iran,” the statement read. “President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed that the successful reset in relations should be built upon during the coming years.”

    Obama told Putin he looked forward to Putin’s May visit to Camp David for the G-8 summit and the two talked about how they could benefit economically from Russia’s joining the WTO, the statement explained.

    That could be a reference to administration efforts to get Congress to repeal the 1974 Jackson-Vanik law that prevents the U.S. from giving Russia permanent normal trade status. Some in Congress are resisting that because of Russia’s deteriorating record on democracy, rule of law, and human rights.

    At the end of the statement, the White House mentioned the crisis in Syria, in which the Russian government is arming the brutal regime of President Bashar al-Assad.

    “President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed to continue discussions on areas where the United States and Russia have differed, including Syria and missile defense,” the statement read. “President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed to continue their efforts to find common ground and remove obstacles to better relations.”

    The State Department, in their May 5 statement on the election, noted the concerns of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe about the election, including that it wasn’t a level playing field to begin with, that government resources were used partisan purposes, and that there were procedural irregularities on the day of the election.

    “We urge Russian authorities to build on these steps to ensure that the procedures for future elections will be more transparent,” the State Department said. The White House statement made no mention of the problems with the election.

    After Russia’s Dec. 2011 parlaimentary elections, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called them “neither free nor fair.” When Russian protesters took to the streets to protest those elections and Putin’s return to the presidency, Putin publicly accused Clinton of inciting the protests.

    http://foreignpolicy.com/2012/03/09/obama-congratulates-putin-for-election-win/

    Last time Putin won an election, Hillary was carrying Obama’s balls in her handbag.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  15. Just reported another bomb, another injury

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  16. Hes what passes for a sensible fellow over there, pikachu, so much so he may get his head separated from his body, meanwhile.e the significance of last weeks squirrel

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JMichaelWaller/status/976201466879889408?p=v

    narciso (d1f714)

  17. The difference is Trump called Putin in a manly fashion, not hiding from the press or putting the dirty off until nobody was looking.

    Last time Putin didn’t return citizen Trump’s phone call.

    Now he picks up the phone on the first ring.

    That’s the difference. The red white and blue phone is ringing Vlad. Better get your game face on.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  18. Putin won 76% of the electorate. That’s less than Chuck Schumer got in New York.

    Let’s investigate Chuck’s phony [dingo] election for fraud.

    We can actually do something about that one.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  19. Congratulate from the heart, Captain, sir! Send a FTD Balloon Bouquet!!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  20. But of course: Trump ignored his own advisors regarding the call:

    President Trump did not follow specific warnings from his national security advisers Tuesday when he congratulated Russian President Vladi­mir Putin on his reelection — including a section in his briefing materials in all-capital letters stating “DO NOT CONGRATULATE,” according to officials familiar with the call.

    Trump also chose not to heed talking points from aides instructing him to condemn the recent poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain with a powerful nerve agent, a case that both the British and U.S. governments have blamed on Moscow.

    The White House press office declined to comment on the briefing materials given to Trump. Two people familiar with the notecards acknowledged that they included instructions not to congratulate Putin. But a senior White House official emphasized that national security adviser H.R. McMaster did not mention the issue during a telephone briefing with the president, who was in the White House residence ahead of and during his conversation with Putin.

    Dana (023079)

  21. But of course Trump ignored his own advisors:

    President Trump did not follow specific warnings from his national security advisers Tuesday when he congratulated Russian President Vladi­mir Putin on his reelection — including a section in his briefing materials in all-capital letters stating “DO NOT CONGRATULATE,” according to officials familiar with the call.

    Trump also chose not to heed talking points from aides instructing him to condemn the recent poisoning of a former Russian spy in Britain with a powerful nerve agent, a case that both the British and U.S. governments have blamed on Moscow.

    Ahead of Tuesday’s phone call, national security aides provided Trump with several handwritten notecards filled with talking points to guide his conversation, as is customary for calls with foreign leaders, according to the officials with knowledge of the call, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

    Dana (023079)

  22. Link.

    Dana (023079)

  23. The difference is Trump called Putin in a manly fashion, not hiding from the press or putting the dirty off until nobody was looking.

    lol

    Patterico (115b1f)

  24. President Trump understands there’s no real downside to congratulating Mr. Putin but that many of America’s enemies like John McCain and Jeff Flake and the CNN Jake tapper fake news propaganda sluts are deeply deeply invested in the Russia mythology

    President Trump understands there’s no marginal utility to the pavlovian propaganda slut agenda in one more news cycle focused on how outrageous it is that Russia Russia Russia is all terrible and sh!t

    and President Trump is terrible

    and it’s just terrible how terrible it all is

    but President Trump understands that there’s a lot of utility in pressing forward on all fronts while doddering cowardpig John McCain and CNN Jake Tapper fake news chase after a bone he throws deep into a grassy field

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  25. meanwhile how interesting is that these unnamed “national security advisors” didn’t want to take credit for their brilliant if disregarded advice?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  26. That’s all right Dana. I’m sure Putin got the draft of that Wapo story before Trump made the call.

    Would have been redundant for the President to regurgle it by then.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  27. Mark ‘tiger beat’ landler, wrote hagiographies for Obama and Hillary, the last was so bad I haven’t seen it at public libraries or discount stores, yes he would have insight:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/20/maryland-shooter-handgun-prohibited

    narciso (d1f714)

  28. “How’s the weather, Vlad? Get any skiing in?” said Trump to Putin. “Is it true you have to stack bodies beside the graveyard, and wait for the spring thaw, because of the permafrost?”

    papertiger (c8116c)

  29. Back-seat diplomacy is the eternal temptation of the #NeverTrump contingent, especially when unwashed domestic policy staring boring old actual countrymen starts to bore you.

    The timeline for ‘it’s okay to be neocon’ ran out sometime before the end of 2007.

    Dysphoria Sam (a3c41a)

  30. What is the goal to topple putin, or something mire achievable:

    London is the exile enclave for good and ill, but its also a regime edoubt

    narciso (d1f714)

  31. Did Russia lose the secret how to produce novičok? You bet. You may buy State Secrets, a book sold for $28.35 (new) at amazon.com, and learn the detailed algorithm how to produce novičok directly from its inventor, Russian chemist Vil Mirzayanov, who built it in the 1970s. The Reference Frame insists that you obey all the international, national, local, moral, and physical laws that may prevent you from producing or using the nerve agent.

    My friend Lubos is either,
    a) terrified of Putin’s agents
    or
    b) telling the truth that the formula for the super secret Russian nerve agent is detailed in a book by this Russian ex-pat living in America.

    I can’t tell.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  32. Re # 16 addendum

    In December 2012, the Magnitsky Act was signed into law by President Obama, repealing the Jackson–Vanik amendment.[1]

    The Russian Federation joined the WTO before Barack Obama hung up the phone congratulating Putin on his reelection.

    The new Start treaty was signed a minute after, Barack once again handing over our [Crikey] to Putin.

    All the way, up and down the laundry list of chit chat points in the Friday, the week after, Obama went face down in the carpet and presented the country’s posterior for Vlad to impale.

    Traitor is not a strong enough word.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  33. Sometimes the hysteria of crowds causes them to overlook the obvious. Here is a series of 12 questions that do not seem to trouble anyone, but the answers to these should expose why so many of the people today alleging scandals should themselves be considered scandalous.

    1) Had Hillary Clinton won the election, would we now even know of a Fusion GPS dossier? Would assorted miscreants such as Andrew McCabe, Bruce Ohr, Lisa Page, Glenn Simpson, Christopher Steele, or Peter Strzok now be under a cloud of suspicion? Or would they instead have been quietly lionized by a President Clinton grateful for noble services in the shadows rendered during the campaign?

    2) If Clinton had won, would we now know of any Russian-suppliedsmears against Donald Trump? Would a FISA judge now be complaining that he was misled in a warrant request? Would likely Attorney General Loretta Lynch be reassigning Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr for his consultations with Fusion GPS operatives? Or would Russian operatives alone be likely, at an opportune moment, to threaten to leak to the media that they had given salacious material to Clinton operatives to ensure her election, and thus they were to be owed for their supposed help in ensuring a Clinton victory? Would anyone be now listening to a losing candidate Donald Trump making wild charges that he had been smeared in the closing days of his campaign by leaks of a Clinton cabal that drew on Russian help?

    3) Are any Russian related interests currently still donating millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation? Why is Bill Clinton not being asked to speak by various groups—including those with Russian-ties—for $500,000 and above per talk? Is he now less persuasive than he was between 2009 and 2015?

    4) Why did Andrew McCabe believe that two Democratic political action funds, one controlled by Clinton “best friend” Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe, donated a total of $675,288 to his wife’s campaign for a rather obscure state senate post? What percentage of Jill McCabe’s actual campaign budget did the $675,288 comprise? And why after her defeat would Andrew McCabe still not recuse himself from directing FBI inquiries into allegations of (likely next president and past generous benefactor) Hillary Clinton’s prior improper use of an email server while Secretary of State? Does quid pro quo refer really more often to simultaneous benefactions or rather sequential ones?

    5) What is the qualification for lying or giving false information to FBI investigators, and did the information supplied to the FBI by Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin concerning their knowledge of the use of Hillary Clinton’s private server qualify? Did Christopher’s Steele’s false pledges not to leak any information shared with the FBI to news sources qualify—at least at the level by which the FBI charged Michael Flynn for allegedly lying to their own investigators? Did Andrew McCabe qualify when he told his FBI superiors that he had not been a background source for news stories? What is the FBI’s own internal criminal bar of lying to or providing false information to Congress or government agencies or courts or leaking classified information? Did James Comey qualify when he testified that he had himself never given background interviews (a.k.a., anonymous leaks) to news organizations nor known other FBI agents to do so, or when he testified to Congress that he certainly did not draw up a memorandum exonerating Hillary Clinton from criminal indictment before he interviewed her or when he deliberately leaked several memoranda, possibly classified, taken from confidential conversations with the president?

    6) What would have happened had the FISA court justices been apprised by the FBI and the Justice Department that the submitted Steele dossier was a) paid for by Hillary Clinton, b) impossible to verify by the FBI, and 3) the sole source for news stories that were being used in circular fashion to corroborate the dossier’s veracity?

    7) Why did Bruce Ohr not disclose to his superiors that he had met with the compiler of the anti-Trump dossier, Christopher Steele, as well as Glenn Simpson of Fusion GPS, who had hired Steele? Why did not Ohr disclose on government-mandated ethics forms that his spouse, Nellie, had worked for Fusion GPS on the anti-Trump dossier during the election? What are the criminal and civil penalties for deliberately misleading auditors, if any? Why has Ohr not been put on notice by authorities that he violated such statutes and could face charges?

    8) Why is Christopher Steele not under indictment and facing extradition as a foreign agent for a) interfering in a U.S. election, b) colluding with Russian interests to obtain information deemed damaging to a U.S. presidential candidate, c) lying to the FBI about his own disclosures of FBI sensitive material related to the dossier to news organizations? Did Steele’s collusion efforts and interference in a U.S. campaign differ much from, or exceed, the attempts of Russians currently indicted by Robert Mueller?

    9) Why did Mueller, at the beginning of his special counsel investigation—to ensure against even the appearance of partisanship or conflicts of interests—not insist of potential hires: a) that they had notdonated to either 2016 political campaign, b) that they had notrepresented past clients who were involved either with the Clinton or Trump organizations or were even tangentially involved with ongoing scandals concerning either Clinton or Trump, c) that were not from his own law firm WilmerHale, which was currently representing, or had in the past, individuals who may well be caught up in future special counsel investigations?

    10) Why did Samantha Power, in a non-intelligence affiliated job as U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, request classified surveillance of American citizens and others to be sent to her office with the names unmasked, eventually at a rate, on average, of one request per day in 2016? And why and how could she testify that some of those daily requests for unmaskings made in her name were not in fact made by her? If not, then by whom and for what purpose and why with such frequency? And why did the requests continue after the 2016 election and during the transition?

    11) Why were the major figures—James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Robert Mueller, Rod Rosenstein, and Peter Strzok—who have in the past investigated, or are currently investigating or overseeing investigations of collusion charges against Donald Trump, all previously involved with investigations of Hillary Clinton? Have they exercised the same methods in the Trump collusion investigation that they used in the past in which Clinton was exonerated?

    12) Which members of the Obama administration were aware of, or gave orders to, members of the Obama Justice Department and the FBI to use the Steele dossier to obtain FISA court orders to surveille American citizens? And who had access to transcripts of such surveillance, and why were the names of particular American surveilled then unmasked and how were they later disclosed to the media?

    https://amgreatness.com/2018/03/20/scandal-questions-never-asked-much-less-answered/

    Sent from my iPhone

    Colonel Haiku (ed0bb1)

  34. When they ask a mule his ancestry, he always names the horse. — Arab saying

    What if Cruz had won the election? What if Kasich had won the election? What if Trump had been kicked out on January 21, 2017 and Pence had become President?

    Hillary as an excuse for Trump’s deficiencies expired on November 8, 2016.

    nk (dbc370)

  35. You may buy State Secrets, a book sold for $28.35 (new) at amazon.com, and learn the detailed algorithm how to produce novičok directly from its inventor, Russian chemist Vil Mirzayanov, who built it in the 1970s.

    Does it say how to avoid being the person it kills?

    nk (dbc370)

  36. the *first* person it kills

    nk (dbc370)

  37. Haiku 33,

    Notice the author says there is a “cloud of suspicion” over those people but nothing about the Trump Administration indicting them. Transparency is good but it should lead to accountability, not the same old slogans for Trump’s re-election campaign.

    DRJ (15874d)


  38. Hillary as an excuse for Trump’s deficiencies expired on November 8, 2016.


    In case you can’t figure it out, nk, The Colonel was pointing out the corruption of the Deep State not “Trump’s deficiencies”. I realize as a stalwart neverTrumper the corruption of the American government comes second to slamming Trump, his family and his appointees but the fact remains if Hillary was elected the Deep State would have never been seen by the average Joe. Now at least we see the systemic corruption even if one man like Trump can’t fix it because too many people who should be cheering him on are busy helping the left set up his impeachment.

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  39. He is just raising questions drj of course it’s the canals insurance policy that provides their indictment

    narciso (d1f714)

  40. Trump is a bad guy for congratulating Putin, but…..


    The Russian people and international observers may not see last Sunday’s presidential election in Russia as legitimate, but President Barack Obama has now officially endorsed the return of Russian past and future President Vladimir Putin. “President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential …

    The Russian people and international observers may not see last Sunday’s presidential election in Russia as legitimate, but President Barack Obama has now officially endorsed the return of Russian past and future President Vladimir Putin.

    “President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential election,” the White House said in a late Friday afternoon statement (read: news dump) about the Friday morning phone call between the two leaders.

    “President Obama highlighted achievements in U.S.-Russia relations over the past three years with President Medvedev, including cooperation on Afghanistan, the conclusion and ratification of the START agreement, Russia’s recent invitation to join the World Trade Organization (WTO) and cooperation on Iran,” the statement read. “President Obama and President-Elect Putin agreed that the successful reset in relations should be built upon during the coming years.”

    By Josh Rogin
    | March 9, 2012, 7:52 PM

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  41. Now there was a method to this madness, they needed russia to get the deal with Iran, this involved Ukraine and suria.

    narciso (d1f714)

  42. Transparency is good but it should lead to accountability

    dirty disgraced FBI scumsuck Andy McCabe was just fired by the Justice Department for malfeasance that took place right under cowardly FBI lickspittle Robert Mueller’s nose, and for matters directly related to the actual purview of Mueller’s “investigation”

    yes McCabe was held accountable

    but dirty fbi suckboy Robert Mueller looked the other way

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  43. In my opinion, Obama was wrong to congratulate Putin on his election. Trump too. But political hacks will always point to the opposition to distract from their own guy’s mistakes. “See, he did it too.”

    On and on we go.

    noel (b4d580)

  44. In my opinion, Obama was wrong to congratulate Putin on his election.

    please to explain what exactly happened you didn’t like cause of how food stamp did congratulations on Putin

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  45. I did not post that as a “See, he did it too”, noel. I don’t care what that idiot did he’s no longer president. I posted it to show (for the one thousandth time) how the left are all hypocrites. It’s my way of saying: Don’t b!tch about something Trump does when you didn’t b!tch when Hussein did the same thing. That’s all. I wasn’t trying to justify the act, just point out the double standard. Surely even a leftist can understand that. All you need do, noel, is refer to the list of 27 things that make a Leftist. This falls under #3.

    1.Always expect the worst from a leftist and you will never be surprised
    2.Never try to reason with a leftist. They disregard any evidence that conflicts with their beliefs
    3.You can always tell what leftists are up to by what they accuse you of doing
    4.Leftists don’t debate, they argue
    5.The only standards leftists have are double standards
    6.Leftists feel, conservatives think
    7.Whenever you don’t understand a leftist’s motives, just look for the money
    8.Leftists cannot be embarrassed. They lack the gene to blush
    9.The Leftist creed is, “Do as I say, not as I do”
    10.Leftists get older, but they never get smarter
    11.There are no honest leftists. If they were honest– especially to themselves –they would not be liberal
    12.A leftist’s business is nobody’s business, but everyone’s business is a leftist’s business
    13.Leftists have an inflated sense of self-worth. They are like house flies that criticize the air-worthiness of a Stealth fighter. (Sarah Palin, George W. Bush, ad infinitum are morons)
    14.Leftists lack a sixth sense that is standard equipment in conservatives — common sense
    15.Leftists never stop hating
    16.There are only two types of leftists — the deceivers and the deceived
    17.Every time leftists get on their high horse, they get bucked off
    18.Leftist programs are so wonderful that they have to be forced on people
    19.Leftists always choke on their own medicine
    20.When given a moral choice, leftists always come down on the wrong side of the fence
    21.The only way leftists can build themselves up is by tearing others down
    22.Leftists not only refuse to admit their mistakes, they refuse to learn from them
    23.Leftists can dish it out, but they can’t take it
    24.Leftists are incapable of attacking the message, so they always attack the messenger
    25.Leftist diversity is only skin deep
    26.The convoluted mind of a leftist resembles a Mobius Strip; it only has one side, can only see one side, and can therefore only understand and operate on one side, which makes the leftist mind capable only of limited thought.
    27.Facts are only facts if a leftist says it is.

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  46. “Trump can’t fix it because too many people who should be cheering him on are busy helping the left set up his impeachment.”

    – Rev. Hoagie

    Mmmm. Trump’s impeachment. That’s gonna be really, really satisfying.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  47. You tease, you.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  48. 37… do your jobs DOJ and FBI.

    Colonel Haiku (ed0bb1)


  49. You may buy State Secrets, a book sold for $28.35 (new) at amazon.com, and learn the detailed algorithm how to produce novičok directly from its inventor, Russian chemist Vil Mirzayanov, who built it in the 1970s.

    Does it say how to avoid being the *first* person it kills?

    nk (dbc370) — 3/21/2018 @ 6:02 am

    There’s no antidote. The former spy and his daughter are beyond hope, being kept alive by ventilators.

    Even if I bought the book that Lubos claims has the formula, I’m not competent to judge the chemistry if he’s right.

    Hence my saying, “I can’t tell.”

    If you have experience with chemistry “State Secrets” is available in Kindle for $8.00.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  50. Try this one, Rev.Hoagie. Apply your 27 “leftist” truisms to Trump. Honestly apply them.

    But you can’t do that, can you? You are not capable of that because the only standard you have is a “double standard”.

    noel (b4d580)

  51. And really, Rev.Hoagie. Stop calling me a leftist and an Obama sympathizer etc. You don’t know anything about me other than my lack of support for some of Trump’s views. That’s it. Stop pretending to know what you cannot know.

    noel (b4d580)

  52. Transparency is not a river in Egypt…

    Colonel Haiku (ed0bb1)

  53. @45. =yawn= Jesus was a carpenter but he ain’t fixin’ your roof.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  54. “Moron” Bush knew not to congratulate Medvedev.

    DRJ (15874d)

  55. too bad he didn’t know better than to get thousands of our hapless tatters killed and maimed for a handful of warm poopies

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  56. @54. There are ways to acknowledge w/o congratulating. Sarah Hucksterbee could probably show him how to do that. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  57. @55. Typo. For @47.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  58. You see this embrace of Putin was strategic he was nccesary to get that great deal with iran, parodoxicallu they were toppling us allies of record like Libya and Tunisia through the Arab spring

    narciso (def8bc)

  59. number one Mr. Putin doesn’t live in a democratic country he lives in Russia number two he kills people a lot using novascotia on them number three if you say congratulations to him when he wins a phony election it makes him angry cause he think you’re mocking him

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  60. oops cause he *thinks* you’re mocking him i mean

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  61. Used to be Russia had a evil government, known as “communist”. They had a plan to destroy the U.S. from within, expressed by Stalin as:

    “America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold: Its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life. If we can undermine these three areas, America will collapse from within.”

    The actual plan was implemented, and made known in 1963.

    There was much progress on this plan, up until the USSR collapsed in 1991. Now, while Russia has become arguably more Christian than the U.S., and has free elections, communist China has taken up the old Soviet plan, and decided to make Xi president for life.

    Remember when Algore had his scandal with Chinese donors? Ever hear of Confucius Institutes? Ever wonder about Hillary dressing like Chairman Mao*? China’s recent endorsement of the democrats gun control push? How about the popularity of Bernie** who probably would have won the primaries if Americans were as concerned with the corruption of our elections as they are with Russia’s?

    My point is, despite the deep state elites pounding of the war drum on Russia, Russia is not the threat to the west being advertised, the threat is still communism, with China leading the way. The right in America, whether you like Trump or not, better get together, quit pouncing on the laser dot of the propagandist MSM, and recognise the real threat to our way of life and the future of our children. TRUMP IS NOT THE ENEMY OF AMERICA. Beware the Red Guard at the gates***!

    ****links below so as not to overload this comment.

    the Bas (3bcea0)

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  64. Had to rescue the first set the Bas… filter loves to eat links. Sometimes randomly. 😉

    Stashiu3 (466cdf)

  65. Oops, disregard #65, I thought 64 was blocked.

    the Bas (3bcea0)

  66. Thanks! It’s great to have you around Stashiu!

    the Bas (3bcea0)

  67. More signs of the times.

    the Bas (3bcea0)

  68. Right, the Bas, but Trump colluded! Gimme a break.


    As Biden and Kerry Went Soft on China, Sons Made Nuclear, Military Business Deals with Chinese Gov’t

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  69. @51 papertiger

    Wait, they’re still alive? Transfer them to a nursing home in Florida.

    Pinandpuller (9ad920)

  70. “Moron” Bush knew not to congratulate Medvedev.

    DRJ (15874d) — 3/21/2018 @ 11:14 am

    But the man wasn’t smart enough to hold his tongue and not lambaste a sitting president while overseas.

    Colonel Haiku (ed0bb1)

  71. My memory fails me… it was while he was in NYC, which is pretty close to being overseas, lol.

    Colonel Haiku (ed0bb1)

  72. And McCabe is reported to have authorized a criminal investigation of Sessions. I’ll be damned, looked here: http://abcnews.go.com/US/exclusive-fired-fbi-official-authorized-criminal-probe-sessions/story?id=53914006

    Colonel Haiku (ed0bb1)

  73. If course, mcfaul didn’t realize that medvedev really wasnt the power in Russia, putin was.

    narciso (d1f714)

  74. Would’ve been interesting to know who the fellow was who criticized Winston Churchill for wishing the mass-murderer Josef Stalin a happy birthday!

    Colonel Haiku (ed0bb1)

  75. Well there was operation keelhaul, which was a regrettable feature to the alliance with stalin

    narciso (d1f714)

  76. Moron” Bush knew not to congratulate Medvedev.

    DRJ (15874d) — 3/21/2018 @ 11:14 am

    But the man wasn’t smart enough to hold his tongue and not lambaste a sitting president while overseas.

    Colonel Haiku (ed0bb1) — 3/21/2018 @ 2:51 pm

    Scare Quotes Moron Bush said he looked in Putin’s eyes and saw his soul. Invited him to his house. Palled around with him you might say.

    Pinandpuller (4f6182)


  77. 52.Try this one, Rev.Hoagie. Apply your 27 “leftist” truisms to Trump. Honestly apply them.

    But you can’t do that, can you? You are not capable of that because the only standard you have is a “double standard”.
    noel (b4d580) — 3/21/2018 @ 10:36 am


    Comrade noel, I apply my 27 Truisms to everything and everybody political so don’t tell me what I can or can’t do since by doing that you prove Truism #24. Essentially you have just proved another Truism of leftism: projection. Since you are incapable of applying my truisms objectively you figure I am also. Wrong again, comrade.

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  78. Instead, when Burkman bent over to pull the papers out from under the cone, he was shot in the buttocks and thigh. As he ran out of the garage with his dachshund in his arms, he was hit by an SUV.

    What kind of a madman takes a lap dog to a dead drop?

    Daily Caller

    Pinandpuller (4f6182)


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