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1/30/2018

SOTU: Open Thread

Filed under: General — Dana @ 5:46 pm

[guest post by Dana]

President Trump will be giving his first State of the Union address tonight. A few excerpts:

Among the accomplishments Trump is expected to highlight: passing the “biggest tax cuts” in American history; eliminating regulations; ending the so-called “war on coal”; defeating ISIS; and undoing “unfair” trade practices.

“Tonight, I want to talk about what kind of future we are going to have, and what kind of nation we are going to be. All of us, together, as one team, one people, and one American family,” Trump plans to say – emphasizing his hope that his administration can bridge partisan divides in Year Two.

“So tonight I am extending an open hand to work with members of both parties, Democrats and Republicans, to protect our citizens, of every background, color, and creed,” the excerpts say.

In a nod to foreign policy and recent provocations against North Korea’s nuclear ambitions, Trump will say that “complacency and concessions only invite aggression and provocation. I will not repeat the mistakes of the past administrations that got us into this dangerous position.”

Amusingly, an Arizona lawmaker has suggested arresting any illegal immigrants present tonight:

Rep. Paul A. Gosar (R-Ariz.) asked the Capitol Police and Attorney General Jeff Sessions to “consider checking identification . . . and arresting any illegal aliens in attendance” as well as detaining anyone using “fraudulent social security numbers and identification to pass through security.” His tweets on the subject caused a wave of online outrage roughly seven hours before the speech was scheduled to begin.

“Of all the places where the Rule of Law needs to be enforced, it should be in the hallowed halls of Congress,” Gosar wrote on Twitter. “Any illegal aliens attempting to go through security, under any pretext of invitation or otherwise, should be arrested and deported.”

To which Nancy-I-Love-Abortion-Pelosi responded, most preciously:

“Our members all profess to be people of faith, that we believe that we’re all children of God and that we have a spark of divinity in us. For him to make that statement is to dishonor the God who made us. It’s just shameful,” she told reporters.

From the other side of the aisle, a few tidbits:

More than a dozen Democratic lawmakers will boycott Trump’s State of the Union tonight because the president is a lying liar. I guess the thinking is that Democrats believe they hold the moral high ground. [Ed. – If you exclude the issue of abortion, both Democrats and Republicans are looking at the moral high ground in the rear view mirror.]

Lastly, Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore. said: “I don’t think there’s anything to be gained by dignifying the performance of a reality T.V. star.” Heh.

–Dana

169 Responses to “SOTU: Open Thread”

  1. Let the games begin.

    Dana (023079)

  2. Pelosi also repeated that moronic “chain migration” slur today.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  3. I’m going to bet that at least one Democrat yells “LIAR!!” and s/he is applauded by the press.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  4. Mr grim reaper, hes the one that put the death panels in the stimulus bill.

    narciso (d1f714)

  5. If you exclude the issue of abortion, both Democrats and Republicans are looking at the moral high ground in the rear view mirror

    It’s really pretty terrible when you realize that Trump may be telling truth more often than the Dems.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  6. “war on coal”

    If a lump ever rolled out of your stocking on Christmas morning you’d sign up for the good fight and strafe Santa’s sleigh on sight!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  7. Mr. Feet! Melania is in virginal white tonight! Take that slap, Stormy!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  8. Great pre-speech TV of Eric Trump trying to flag down the hot dog vendor as the seats fill.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  9. “Americans love their country. And they deserve a government that shows them the same love and loyalty in return.”

    This is the core of Trump’s appeal. The Democrats (and much of the GOP) has forgotten this, whether with illegal immigrants or foreign trade partners, or simply by ignoring the bulk of the nation outside the big cities.

    If Trump can deliver on the inherent pledges here, he’ll win re-election in a landslide. That’s a big if, however. Not only is he his own worst enemy, but every man’s hand holds a knife.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  10. Pelosi’s exclusive residences in DC and SF are teeming with these “children of God”, except they’re called “the help”.

    And, if they not there as “the help”, they’re hauled off rather unceremoniously.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  11. Oh my. Ivanka loses fashion points tonight– a dress that matches the pattern on my pizza-sauce-stained-sofa cushions.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  12. The thing is the Tories have forgotten this as well, so may is,paying the eu 40 billion in order to disengage, which divorce atty is she using.

    narciso (d1f714)

  13. Oh those cool, light applause from Melania.

    DCSCA (797bc0)


  14. 7.Mr. Feet! Melania is in virginal white tonight! Take that slap, Stormy!
    DCSCA (797bc0) — 1/30/2018 @ 5:59 pm


    DCSCA, you heathen. Melania is wearing proper winter white tonight. My wife says her outfit is “impeccable”. And that’s hard for a Korean to pronounce.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  15. “If Trump’s cabinet were any whiter, it would look like Obama’s” – Stephen Green

    harkin (5772a2)

  16. Nancy Pelosi is a mental deterioration case study. Sits there sucking on her dentures.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  17. Just checking…did Rohrabacher make it to the speech?

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  18. ASPCA, already pud in hand, poor bastard…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  19. I didn’t make it past The First Lady’s Box comments from Fox radio.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  20. Teh CBC sure doesn’t seem pleased about lowest black unemployment numbers. Sad.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  21. I’m going to bet that at least one Democrat yells “LIAR!!” and s/he is applauded by the press.

    Any odds on whether somebody from the San Francisco delegation will drift off and yell “Palomino”?

    nk (dbc370)

  22. @19 unrelated to @18 unless you think back to Marty Feldman in The Last Remake of Beau Geste

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  23. I am listening to Scott Ross play Scarlatti and the Menuhins (Yehudi and Hephzibah) play Beethoven. Is The One Who Must Not Be Named saying anything interesting?

    To put thus in perspective, this doesn’t reflect my opinion of Trump. It reflects my opinion of SOTU. I think I’ve watched two in the last 20 years.

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  24. Unhappy, schiff sniffing Democrats. They’ve a tough road ahead of them.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  25. BTW, if you ever wondered what a harpsichord playing biker dude looks like, put B00IUPNBW6 into Patterico’s Amazon widget.
    If you want to do yourself (and Patterico) a favor, buy it.

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  26. @14. Hoagie- she looks stellar- as always!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  27. The signal is blue from the reds: will Nunes release the memo about the Blue Tie Code?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  28. 3, I’d be relieved with copy cat Joe Wilson…its the copy cat Joe Davola I’m worried about.

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  29. “I am not denying this affair because I was paid ‘hush money’ as has been reported in overseas owned tabloids. I am denying this affair because it never happened.”

    — Stormy Daniels

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/01/jimmy-kimmel-strikes-out.php

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  30. Dana,

    quoting Earl Blumenauer, D-Ore is low class.

    That is all.

    NJRob (b00189)

  31. @29. That’s her story and she has 130,000 reasons to stick to it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  32. Save the chickens!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  33. Smart move by the President to bring actual victims of illegal alien violence to shut up the left in the audience from trying to enforce our laws.

    NJRob (b00189)

  34. Nice to see Ned Ryerson made the show. Hope he makes it back to Punxsutawney by Friday.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  35. Show and tell.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  36. Uh, Donald, Puerto Ricans can’t see this; much of their power remains out.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  37. Americans are dreamers too. Well played.

    NJRob (b00189)

  38. About 40%, there is the small matter of the electrical grid that wee held together by bailing wire

    narciso (d1f714)

  39. “Americans are dreamers , too.”

    Best line so far.

    felipe (023cc9)

  40. Have a friend who was invited to be used for “show and tell” in the gallery for a SOTU. Refused; has integrity; said no to being used as a prop.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  41. ASPCA,

    nice job spitting in the face there of those families who have kids that died. Good job saying they have no integrity.

    NJRob (b00189)

  42. 38.About 40%, there is the small matter of the electrical grid that wee held together by bailing wire.

    Reaganomics.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  43. You remind me of the anti-Vietnam left. Good job ASPCA.

    NJRob (b00189)

  44. Catch and release— fishing for applause.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  45. Is I was wrong about Stormy? She no kiss and tell after all?

    nk (dbc370)

  46. When they scan and pan, look at Pelosi twitching– she’s having micro-strokes.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  47. @43. Oh, the winners on the right side of history. You’re welcome.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  48. Apparently not, the man show cohost is going to find some else to dish, perhaps tinya Harding is available.

    narciso (d1f714)

  49. Schumer sitting next to Patti Murray. If you were to capture the brainpower between those two, who knows what couldn’t be accomplished.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  50. APSCA,

    glad you own it. May you rot for it.

    NJRob (b00189)

  51. If Trump want make joke he say ICE will respect sanctuary city status of Malibu and not deport any illegal alien inside city limits. Is good joke. Every Dreamer take road to surfdom.

    nk (dbc370)

  52. That would be the infinite improbability drive.

    narciso (d1f714)

  53. @50. You may not only own it, you may wear it – check the labels of your socks and shorts for Made In Vietnam tags. Machine wash, tumble dry.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  54. The democrats are having a schiff fit and it is smelly.

    mg (2c9db1)

  55. @49. =Haiku= Gesundheit!

    Forget them, keep your eyes on Pelosi; she’s manic. Was last night on CNN, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  56. NJRob
    Of course they’re being used for props.
    So are all the people invited by the Democrats.

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  57. Sweet story about the cop, his wife and child…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  58. “our great military”… the USAF blowing $23,657,671 on two fridges for AF1 by 2019 when they’re already contracting w/Boeing for new planes. Somebody’s been eatin’ a whole lot of frozen strawberries, Captain sir!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  59. They didn’t realize the great proletarian revolution would lead to. Sweatshops, regardless those zampolits understand capitalism better than doc brown and mayor bane.

    narciso (d1f714)

  60. Is not really question of integrity I think. Who want be in same room with 537 politicians and have to keep hand on wallet the whole time?

    nk (dbc370)

  61. Kishnevi, our guys are patriotic examples theirs are lousy props. Gotta remember how it works.

    Rev.Hoagie (6bbda7)

  62. Every time I see a friend of mine who served in Vietnam or someone that came back I say to them Welcome Home. Since the rear admiral and Dcsca have spit, peed and schiff tee all over them. You two suck.

    mg (2c9db1)

  63. NJRob
    Of course they’re being used for props.
    So are all the people invited by the Democrats.

    Kishnevi (6ee685) — 1/30/2018 @ 7:08 pm

    I never said they weren’t. I’m calling out the troll for saying they have no integrity for doing so because they’re up there to support enforcing border laws and getting rid of criminal aliens.

    NJRob (b00189)

  64. You should read the Pentaon Papers, look in the mirror– if you can- and then you’ll know who truly “spit, peed and schiff tee all over them.” Shame on you.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  65. ^62.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  66. American foreign assistance dollars only serve American interests.

    Yes it’s only a drop in the bucket, but it makes sense. You don’t fund your enemies like our past President.

    NJRob (b00189)

  67. What you mean mean when jfk had diem taken out, and lbs tried to buy of who with public works projects

    narciso (d1f714)

  68. @60.Is not really question of integrity I think. Who want be in same room with 537 politicians and have to keep hand on wallet the whole time? In her case it was; she didn’t want to be used as a prop or tool– but the ‘hand-on-the-wallet’ bit did come up– not to mention she was told she’d have to pay her own way.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  69. 66.American foreign assistance dollars only serve American interests.

    Back in the day, t’was Pope who hired armies to do his bidding to peddle and protect Christianity.

    Today, it’s Exxon/Mobil.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  70. GFY – you pos dcsca

    mg (2c9db1)

  71. So many ‘victims’ on display; you’d think Trump was, at heart, a Democrat.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  72. @70.GRTPP, you… yo-yo, mg.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  73. @67. “Old Ho can’t turn that down.” Surprise. He did.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  74. Really first responders in clauforniaand Texas, yes those victimized by uniparty swamp policies.

    narciso (d1f714)

  75. If you hear “Get yo hand out my pocket”, it is NOT b/c a pol is trying to take somebody’s wallet

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  76. Ji Seong-ho knows Christianity and freedom.

    Your mockery shows what an embarrassment you are ASPCA.

    NJRob (b00189)

  77. “I am listening to Scott Ross play Scarlatti…….”

    Marcelle Meyer and Emil Gilles are two of my favorite Scarlatti interpreters, although both use a piano.

    harkin (5772a2)

  78. Did he seriously imply that we should cut off economic aid to countries whose governments voted to denounce our decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital?

    He didn’t give any details. But on paper that section of the speech implied that we should deny aid to starving children, or to people dying of HIV, because their governments disapprove of our foreign policy.

    If he *meant* to imply that, it’s outright evil.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  79. As Stormy said, ‘Gave him an hour; is he done yet?’

    Switched over to Mel Brooks’ The Producers. Soon they’ll be playing his song: ‘Springtime for Hitler.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  80. So many ‘victims’ on display; you’d think Trump was, at heart, a Democrat.

    Not at all, he’s celebrating freedom and truth.

    harkin (5772a2)

  81. Ball Game

    Icy (1fc769)

  82. 76. Awwwww. Give me a mulligan.

    Know “Christianity” all too well: in April, will celebrate 50 years of not attending a regular Sunday church service and am at peace w/my God without the middle man, sucker.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  83. @80- One in the same. Watch for The Wave.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  84. Am glad I was wrong about Stormy and sorry I say mean things. She maybe rare hooker who not only sit on goldmine but also have heart of gold.

    nk (dbc370)

  85. You mean like abbas who spent 50 million on a new plane, like unwta that indictrunate Palestinians in hate, because the Arab states haven’t integrated the Palestinians into their own populations.

    narciso (d1f714)

  86. This 90 minutes lost will disappear from the national memory faster than copies of Fire & Fury.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  87. Narciso,

    exactly.

    NJRob (b00189)

  88. He’s such a horrible speaker but he did OK and, more importantly, he said the right things.

    They should make 2018 commercials showing every time he advocated helping America’s poor and forgotten citizens and the Democrats sulking and sitting on their hands.

    harkin (5772a2)

  89. Harkin, Ross recorded all 555 sonatas. But check out the cover photo of the set, and you’ll see why I talked about biker dude.

    Aphrael, how much of that money is really reaching AIDS babies?

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  90. 85.You mean like abbas who spent 50 million on a new plane

    Airbus or Boeing– it’s important!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  91. @88. Big sale on surfboards this summer– ride The Wave.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  92. But on paper that section of the speech implied that we should deny aid to starving children, or to people dying of HIV, because their governments disapprove of our foreign policy.

    If he *meant* to imply that, it’s outright evil.

    It’s not evil to refuse to feed your enemies. And it was not mere disapproval. It was outright condemnation in a special meeting of the UN.

    nk (dbc370)

  93. @80- One in the same. Watch for The Wave.
    DCSCA (797bc0) —1/30/2018 @ 7:32 pm

    — NOT what I meant; but (of course) you knew that already.

    Icy (1fc769)

  94. 85/87
    Well, there’s at least one thing on which I agree fully with you guys.

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  95. NJRob
    Of course they’re being used for props.
    So are all the people invited by the Democrats.

    Kishnevi (6ee685) — 1/30/2018 @ 7:08 pm

    While they may be being used as props, they have agreed to be in attendance. And I suspect that for some it’s not about politics but about the need to have their pain acknowledged and recognized when so often it’s pushed aside by the next news cycle. I for one was inspired by the guests’ stories, and reminded of the enormous capacity of love people have, as well as a supernatural defiance in the face of adversity and a will to do what’s right when the odds are against one.
    .

    Dana (023079)

  96. Most lamely airbus, disco was making some gibe about air force why does abbas need a 50 million dollar jet, the Palestinians were screwed by the Brits the Germans the soviet’s their own Arab brethren and finally you might say the Israelis who hold a patchwork of settlements link we did around 1850.

    narciso (d1f714)

  97. “Ross recorded all 555 sonatas.”

    That is incredible.

    I’ve been to one harpsichord concert in my life, Gustav Leonhardt at Loyola Marymount around 1980

    harkin (5772a2)

  98. Way OT, but if anyone is looking for a vacation home
    https://www.cnn.com/travel/article/ollolai-italy-one-euro-homes/index.html

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  99. Wow that is remarkable in what timespan.

    narciso (d1f714)

  100. Democrats SIT ON THEIR BUTTS … I’m sure it was a tribute to FDR

    NeoMany corporations incorporate in Deleware because of the (d1c681)

  101. Leonhardt? You picked the best.

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  102. @95. Exactly, Dana.

    The back story involved is a bit of as PITA, too. Security checks to get in, travel costs, etc.,… it’s more of a hassle than folks generally know–on top of deciding if you want to be a ‘prop’ for 30 seconds. For a civilian, all factored into to my friend declining the invite.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  103. Think Spanky’ll celebrate with Stormy afterwards?

    Tillman (a95660)

  104. Somewhere in the dim recesses of my memory I remember one where they also had a viola da gamba. Likely at Aspen.

    nk (dbc370)

  105. Ross recorded them in 1984-1985.
    The set is 34 CDs.
    Scarlatti’s sonatas are almost all one movement affairs.
    For comparison, Beethoven wrote 33, needing 8-10 CDs (depending on the pianist).

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  106. And it was not mere disapproval. It was outright condemnation in a special meeting of the UN.”

    The UN condemns the location of capital.

    Meanwhile……

    Iran—which leads the world in executions and recently ordered the hanging a 26-year-old rape victim—was voted late Wednesday into a coveted spot on the U.N. Economic and Social Council’s Commission on the Status of Women (CSW).”

    http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-wins-top-spots-on-u-n-human-rights-committees/

    harkin (5772a2)

  107. 96.Most lamely airbus,

    Not a fan; never felt ‘comfortable’ in one of them. Only aircraft which reminded me of the disconcerting elevator ride up the WTC.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  108. 103.Think Spanky’ll celebrate with Stormy afterwards?

    On a 54 inch screen perhaps; He does have that signed DVD to watch; it’s a cinch Melania will be hitting her hotel minibar instead.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  109. nk, your memory is correct. Five of them involved multiple instruments. Three are for organ.

    Kishnevi (6ee685)

  110. Teats still remarkably impressive about Scott.

    narciso (d1f714)

  111. Another great keyboard artist who played beautiful Scarlatti and also died young, Youri Egorov.

    https://youtu.be/rZuT302aC9Q

    harkin (5772a2)

  112. I am listening to Scott Ross play Scarlatti and the Menuhins (Yehudi and Hephzibah) play Beethoven. Is The One Who Must Not Be Named saying anything interesting?

    To put thus in perspective, this doesn’t reflect my opinion of Trump. It reflects my opinion of SOTU. I think I’ve watched two in the last 20 years.

    Kishnevi (6ee685) — 1/30/2018 @ 6:32 pm

    Would you mind linking your music appreciation thing? If you feel comfortable doing that kind of thing. I don’t know. It’s just a request.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  113. Dems weren’t having any fun, makes one wonder why they bother to show up at all.

    ropelight (4ad4b2)

  114. That was the most Reaganesque SOTU I’ve heard since Ronaldus Magnus gave his final address.

    I still don’t trust DJT understands the underpinnings of Reagan’s vision. I fully trust that he loves America in very much the same manner. If only he more fully understood why.

    O reveled in the rhetorical ju jitsu which caused Dems to constantly look at each other to see if it was allowed to applaud or stand for allusions to core holdings of Lefties. It was great fun to see them refuse to rise as DJT spoke of patient rights. If only that party were in its death throes.

    Credit to DJT for a smashing win tonight.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  115. If you have a TSA precheck I understand, is what I’m saying.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  116. The MIDI world suffers for lack of harpsichord samples.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  117. That link at 105 might help,

    narciso (d1f714)

  118. Credit to DJT for a smashing win tonight.
    Ed from SFV

    Agreed, Ed.

    The first modern speech from a president since the postmodern era of self-hatred and guilt began. Of course I wept with the stories from the guests, but mostly I wept because we finally have a president who has the guts to bring forth such stories as they might have “offended” one of our enemies.

    Loved it. There: I’ve said it.

    Patricia (3363ec)

  119. I wonder if whatshisname is listening to Rod McKuen tonight…

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  120. I think Scott Ross was last seen in the North with Jon Snow…

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  121. For Scarlatti, see the instructions I gave in comment 25. For the Menuhins, put “Menuhin Century” in Patterico’s widget. Pricey, but remember Yehudi started recording in 1928 at the age of 12, and kept recording for 70 years or so. Puts Michael Jackson in perspective.

    More broadly, you are invited here to the music forum I’ve mentioned before. Just remember it’s dominated by liberals and Europeans in the political threads, but not exclusively
    http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/

    My mother gave me a classical LP (“Mitch Miller Plays 100 Great Composers”) when I was six because smart people liked classical music, then spent the next forty five years wondering why I liked classical music.

    Kishnevi (65f98d)

  122. Somebody shut that bloody bazuki up.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  123. Liberals and Europeans? Somebody should build a wall.

    Thank you.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  124. When they scan and pan, look at Pelosi twitching– she’s having micro-strokes.

    DCSCA (797bc0) — 1/30/2018 @ 7:00 pm

    If her forehead moves it’s six more months of winter.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  125. “Is not really question of integrity I think. Who want be in same room with 537 politicians and have to keep hand on wallet the whole time?”

    nk (dbc370) — 1/30/2018 @ 7:10 pm

    Mebbe more than same room with 100 lawyers while keeping back against wall.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  126. I liked most of what I heard tonight. Good job.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  127. That would make an inviting target:https://mobile.twitter.com/willripleyCNN/status/958550703575715841

    narciso (d1f714)

  128. @125. LOL

    And Ned was there.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  129. DCSCA didn’t live through Watergate, he’s still there.

    Hey did it snow today in 1973?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  130. @127.I liked most of what I heard tonight. Good job

    =Haiku= Gesundheit!

    Considering the bar was set so low you could trip over it, not drink from it, that’s not saying much, Colonel. Still the Pelosi Twitch was worth the price of admission. She really needs a new sedative script.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  131. I was out in front of my house round about 1973 or 1974. I turned my boot in the snow and got stuck like an old fashioned key in a lock. My mom was on the phone the whole time watching me through the LR window while I screamed at her to come help me. She waited till her friend hung up.

    That’s one of the reasons I live 1,400 miles away. True story.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  132. My favorite line of the speech:

    In America, we know that faith and family, not government and bureaucracy, are the center of the American life. Our motto is “in God we trust.”

    TheBas (3c03db)

  133. It’s like that episode of the blacklist, where the hit man is stuck in 1989, when the wall fell.

    narciso (d1f714)

  134. Pelosi was agitated.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  135. @130— Well, PP, you’re shoveling something.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  136. Marcelle Meyer and Emil Gilles are two of my favorite Scarlatti interpreters, although both use a piano.

    harkin (5772a2) — 1/30/2018 @ 7:27 pm

    For a split second I thought you were going in an Elvis direction.

    What if Elvis impersonators had interpreters on the side of the stage?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  137. Does your inner monologue sound like Hal Holbrook?

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  138. @138. Soupy Sales

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  139. There’s a new song out you should listen to DCSCA. It’s called Glory Days

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  140. @140 – 45 or a 78?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  141. @142. Hmmmm.

    Seemed more like she was signaling stormy warnings his way:

    ‘I’m clean, so don’t even think of touching me again. I’ll be at the hotel.’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  142. Our motto is “in God we trust.”

    TheBas (3c03db) — 1/30/2018 @ 8:51 pm

    You lie!…hey guys you really left me hanging there.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  143. Well, there is never any doubt what the “liquid” smeared on and around Sally Kohn’s mouth is, is there?

    nk (dbc370)

  144. Get out old [DC’s] records
    Get out old [DC’s] records
    We will dance the whole night long
    It’s fun to play the old time songs
    If old [DC] could see us now
    I know he’d be so proud
    Bring out old [DC’s] records
    Bring out old [DC’s] records
    I remember my Aunt Bea
    She’d dance with [DC] till two or three
    If old[ DC] could see us now
    I know he’d shout out loud

    Dig out old [DC’s] records
    Bring out old [DC’s] records
    We’re all here, we’ve all got dates
    We’ll dance all night to the seventy-eights
    If old [DC] could see us now
    I know he’d be so proud
    If old [DC] were with us still
    I know he’d come around

    Get out old [DC’s] records
    Dig out old [DC’s] records
    Back to nineteen [seventy]-five
    The foxtrot, jitterbug ‘n jive
    If old [DC] could see us now
    I know he’d be so proud

    Get out old [DC’s] records
    Bring out old [DC’s] records
    High above the fireplace
    There’s a smile on old [DC’s] face
    If old [DC] could see us now
    I know he’d be so proud
    If old [DC] were with us still
    I know he’d come around
    Songwriters: GORDON LIGHTFOOT

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  145. If you bad talk Gordon Lightfoot the last thing you see will be the inside of your hockey jersey.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  146. What’s Melania doing wearing white this time of year?

    I thought you couldn’t wear white after Methodist day.

    Or, whatever. I’m Catholic and from California.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  147. Welcome, Steve, though i thought the PP Gordon Lightfoot reference would segue into a Devil’s Brigade clip.

    urbanleftbehind (de661d)

  148. I only know him from the Edmund Fitzgerald song. Learned that Hiawatha’s Gitchiegoomie is Lake Superior. That’s worth something.

    nk (dbc370)

  149. Your wish is my command.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=TyYcIc9qlKg

    The Devil’s Brigade – Bar Brawl

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  150. Thanks Steve. I’m afraid I’ve never seen that before. That bar had everything but a pinball machine and an engineer named Scotty.

    Pinandpuller (9e59db)

  151. Mr DCSCA

    Received telegram George Lucas Stop Wants you on American Graffiti set for reshoots Stop Told him you never left 1973 Stop What do I tell Bill and Ted Stop

    Pinandpuller (9e59db)

  152. @153. It’s 1973. Who the hell is George Lucas? When Kubrick calls, wake me.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  153. 9. “Americans love their country. And they deserve a government that shows them the same love and loyalty in return.”

    Some commmentators on TV didn’t figure that one out, because Trump did not elaborate.

    By love, Trump means keeping other people down, on the theory that one man’s gain is another person’s loss.

    This is probably courtesy of Miller, although I’ve heard it before.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  154. 33. NJRob (b00189) — 1/30/2018 @ 6:49 pm

    33.Smart move by the President to bring actual victims of illegal alien violence to shut up the left

    If the left is shut up, it is because it is stupid.

    This is moral equivalent of racism and a classic racist tactic applied to a different, very heterogenous group. It goes against everything in Judeo-Christian philosophy. You can do this with any group of people you want to persecute.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  155. 45. nk (dbc370) — 1/30/2018 @ 7:00 pm

    Is I was wrong about Stormy? She no kiss and tell after all?

    It was always not kiss, but tell, until Trump’s lawyers got in contact with her back around 2011.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  156. I’d give the whole speech a B-

    Some accuracy, but a lot of that irrelevant, a few really false notes, a few actually good things said.

    I’d give most, or all, State of the Union speeches no better than a B.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  157. The speech was written for 50 minutes, but lasted half an hour longer because of all the applause.

    Trump, like as if he was Khrushchev, was leading the clapping, or maybe joining in in the hopes that when he stopped the others would take it as a signal to stop. Nobody commented on that.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  158. Less than one year has passed since I first stood at this podium, in this majestic chamber, to speak on behalf of the American people and to address their concerns, their hopes, and their dreams. That night, our new administration had already taken very swift action. A new tide of optimism was already sweeping across our land.

    What’s he talking about? What action> And what optimism? The stock market?

    To everyone still recovering in Texas, Florida, Louisiana, Puerto Rico, and the Virgin Islands — everywhere — we are with you, we love you, and we always will pull through together, always. (Applause.)

    Right after the speech, FEMA pulled out of Puerto Rico.

    Then, after getting criticism, it reversed itself. Or maybe had never made such a decision.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/01/31/fema-says-it-is-not-cutting-off-aid-to-puerto-rico.html

    FEMA spokesman William Booher tells The Associated Press that the agency had been evaluating whether enough stores and supermarkets had reopened by Jan. 31 to justify ending distribution of food and water to municipal governments on the island. He says that decision had not actually been taken but officials mistakenly made the date public this week.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  159. Since the election, we have created 2.4 million new jobs…

    Here we get a plethora of statistics, with no context and no scale. This happens in almost eveyr State of the Union message. I wish one time a president would stop it.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  160. And just as I promised the American people from this podium 11 months ago, we enacted the biggest tax cuts and reforms in American history. (Applause.)

    Was that the main thing he promised?

    we nearly doubled the standard deduction for everyone. (Applause.) Now, the first $24,000 earned by a married couple is completely tax-free. (Applause.)

    he gives a number of true statements about teh tax bill, startng with individuals, but never mentions any provisions that impact negatively on people, like eliminating personal exemptions.

    In April, this will be the last time you will ever file under the old and very broken system,

    Very true, and good to mention that it hasn’t taken effect yet, although he doesn’t need to include the insult “broken.” Whatever was broken about it hasn’t been fixed. If he wants to say so, can he explain?

    and millions of Americans will have more take-home pay starting next month — a lot more. (Applause.)

    What he doesn’t say, and maybe doesn’t know, is that there will be many people who will discover they are getting much smaller tax refunds, come 2019, unless they take care to adjust their withholding.

    We eliminated an especially cruel tax that fell mostly on Americans making less than $50,000 a year, forcing them to pay tremendous penalties simply because they couldn’t afford government-ordered health plans. (Applause.) We repealed the core of the disastrous Obamacare. The individual mandate is now gone. Thank heaven. (Applause.)

    True, except

    It’s not gone for the tax year 2018.

    It’s gone for 2019, and will be missing from tax returns filed in 2020.

    Also the tax was not in fact, often collected. There was no requirement to answer the question, no auditing, and the tax was paid only from a person’s refund. There were exemptions but hard to get after the fact.

    He goes on about a business that is doing well. he shows off and raises an employee (a welder, a skill where there’s a shortage) The employee is black.

    Talks about veterans, saying they’ve removed more than 1,500 VA employees and asks for legislation giving the same power to all Cabinet Secrtetaries. This is where he throws in something about a government that shows them the same love and loyalty in return but immediately talks about judges, and mentions the Second amendment, and about the FDA approveing more new and generic drugs and medical devices than ever before in our country’s history. He adds:

    We also believe that patients with terminal conditions, and terminal illness, should have access to experimental treatment immediately that could potentially save their lives.

    and comments they shouldn’t have to leave the country for that.

    This is one place he tgalks like everybody is rich. Another place is where he says the average American family of four has an income of $75,000 a year.

    A typical family of four making $75,000 will see their tax bill reduced by $2,000, slashing their tax bill in half. (Applause.)

    Maybe he didn’t mean to say that a typical American family of four has an income of $75,000 a year.

    Actually, it might be pretty close:

    https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/income-poverty/4-person.html This table goes on;y up to 2005 and has the mnedian income in 2005 for 4-Person Families in the United States as
    $67,019 This might be based on tax returns, though.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  161. We built the Empire State Building in just one year

    This is true, but he is not analyzing the causes of this change.

    Getting rid of all regulations could throw out the baby with the bathwater, and all he proposes is getting permits in two years and better yet one year. That’s all?

    The cause of this, of course is environemntal impact statements, most of which are totally uselss, and certainly repetitive.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  162. EIRs, and the endless court challenges to EIRs (my puppy probably has standing) are the bane of infrastructure. At the very least, here should be a fast-track option where a prima facie showing that the change is extremely positive allows for a waiver of the full EIR.

    Example: L.A. traffic is terrible and all those cars idling causes quite a bit of smog, etc. A Sepulveda subway line will improve things by unloading the 405 AND connecting the other two subway lines in a circle route and to LAX. Grant a waiver and get started. As it stands, it is more than a decade before some projects can get started.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  163. @163

    To piggyback on this: at least 5 people died during construction on the Empire State Building. What’s an acceptable number of deaths?

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  164. To piggyback on this: at least 5 people died during construction on the Empire State Building. What’s an acceptable number of deaths?

    Apparently, 5 were. It’s kind of an asinine question as no death is “acceptable” but you cannot ensure that there will be none. It’s also not germane to the question of permits or delay.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  165. I think the same number died building the unremarkable Rosemont Horizon (now All state Arena); and 14 workers died in 1982 in one incident building the IN Rt. 912 (Cline Ave) which has already been largely decommissioned. To add insult to injury, a doctor and his wife drove their car off a missing bridge section due to outdated GPS info few years back.
    http://failures.wikispaces.com/Rosemont+Horizon+Arena
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indiana_State_Road_912

    urbanleftbehind (4b1cb9)

  166. True K.M., but couldn’t resist. That 912/Cline made it tolerable for those traveling between Chicago proper and much more affordable but decent parts of NWI.

    urbanleftbehind (4b1cb9)

  167. I’ll admit error here, my initial read was an attack on regulations rather than permitting.

    Davethulhu (fab944)


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