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Man In Truck Yells “Allahu Akbar” As He Plows Onto Bike Path In New York, Killing Eight

Filed under: General — Dana @ 2:35 pm

[guest post by Dana]

Horrible news out of New York:

At least six people were killed Tuesday afternoon when a speeding Home Depot truck plowed along a Lower Manhattan bike path, running down helpless riders from behind, sources said.

Eyewitnesses told police the driver yelled “Allahu Akbar!” — Arabic for “God is great!” — after leaving the mangled bodies scattered behind his rental truck.

The Middle Eastern man was arrested after police shot him in the rear end. Sources said he was waving a pair of guns when cops reached the scene.

Fifteen people have been reported injured.

The incident is being investigated as a terrorist attack.

Also, according to NBC News:

Suspect is male in mid 30s. Three law enforcement officials directly briefed in the investigation describe him as ‘middle eastern’

Officials have not released the name of the suspect, who was carrying a Florida ID.

Sadly, this:

The man crashed into a school bus carrying three children during the rampage, and police say that he’d deliberately targeted that bus. Witnesses told police they saw the driver swerve the truck to target the school bus.

Mayor de Blasio just spoke at a news conference:

Based on the information we have at this moment, this was act of terror.”

He also updated the number killed to eight.

Of course, everything is subject to updates as the investigation proceeds. Prayers and comfort for the families of those who were killed. What horrible shock they must be experiencing now.


178 Responses to “Man In Truck Yells “Allahu Akbar” As He Plows Onto Bike Path In New York, Killing Eight”

  1. Just awful.

    Dana (023079)

  2. 8 killed and 15 injured as of now. Driver not identified to public but said to be 29 years old. This happenned shortly after 3 p.m.

    I don’t know how much of this can be seen before the paywall.

    (the URL says the first reported number of peope killed: 6. URLS are often not updated.

    The driver was armed with paintball gun and a pellet gun when he was shot. The truck was rented from Home Depot according to another story.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  3. Protected means cordoned off. So cars can’t go there except on purpose.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  4. We tend to forget that these things keep on happening.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  5. Media trying to “helpfully” translate his remarks into saying “God is great” instead of “allahu akbar.”

    Now why would they possibly do that?

    NJRob (c204b4)

  6. for the love of unsoiled granny panties these terrorism dorks need a new catchphrase i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. The New York City Police Department is probably on alert, in case there were more than one terrorist act planned for approximately the same time. Thw windows for that has passed, though. I also don’t know what exactly they could do without any knowledge, because just about anything could be target.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  8. Someone told me her granddaughter works 50 feet from where this happened. She doesn’t know any more because she heard that from her son.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  9. This person drove to New York City. He has residences in Tampa and New Jersey. The truck it looks like was rented in Florida. He was oriinally from Uzbekistan/ Uzbekistan until recently was a very strong dictatorship but the dictator died. It had an al Qaeda affiliated organization, founded in 1998, which switched its allegiance to ISIS in 2015.

    This is the most successful car crash attack in the United States. The closest one to it is maybe the one that happened in Times Square earlier this year (May 18) but that was done by your ordinary non-political crazy person and killed only one person although injuring 22 (9 hospitalized). This guy would probably not be described as emotionally disturbed in that kind of a fashion.

    They are now going to look into the question of whether he was on their radar in any way, and get his electronic devices – was he in contact with anyone etc. It’s a good thing he survived. Even if he doesn’t talk, he could give things away and any person he was associated with has to be afraid he could talk so will be motivated to shut things down.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  10. The truck driver’s name has been released. The Home depot flatbed truck had New Jersey license plates and was probably rented from the Home Depot near the entrance to the Holland Tunnel in New Jersey, although another Home Depot is a candidate. The driver had a Florida driver’s license. He was originally from Uzbekistan.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  11. @10

    “The crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored.”

    If Trump had kept his promise, those poor people (and countless others) would still be alive.

    Dave (445e97)

  12. We may never know his motive. What could it possibly be?

    The multicultural Dana (22eb20)

  13. 14

    Are you disappointed they didn’t take the bait? He’s probably just suffering the same malady as the Vegas gambler..

    Terminal As*holistics.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  14. Relax Dave, the man said “safety will be restored” not “perfection will be attained”.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  15. There’s no comparison to “the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet begins to heal”, is it?

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  16. There does seem to be a common thread:

    narciso (d1f714)

  17. Media trying to “helpfully” translate his remarks into saying “God is great” instead of “allahu akbar.”

    Now why would they possibly do that?
    NJRob (c204b4) — 10/31/2017 @ 3:09 pm

    [Our] God is great[er].

    Islam getting back on brand.

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  18. Allahu Aflac

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  19. I’m going to keep asking you to lose the title unless you admit you named yourself out of irony, Kernel..

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  20. They’ll excuse almost anything if it’s associated with Islam.: throwing gays off of buildings… honor killings of girls and women… female genital mutilation… and when I say “they”, I mean the Left and the media.

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  21. Dave puts the con in “conservative”…

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  22. When I say kernel, I mean you haiku.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  23. @10 Rev Hoagie

    I’m becoming cynical and hard-hearted but recently there was a young girl, in Sweden I think, run down by one of these animals. The pictures were awful. She was just out walking her dog. Naturally.

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  24. Calling them animals is an insult to animals but please continue Pin.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  25. The Left, both the institutional Left and your common, garden-variety mouth-breather lefty, threw in with the haters of the West, including fundamentalist Islam, a long time ago. They have much in common.

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  26. They should put an ignition locking device on cars that only allows it to start after you blow a .06.

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  27. They will excuse nearly any atrocity. In their minds, the West “had it coming”.

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  28. Impersonating an officer gets bread/water rations and a fabulous colon plug.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  29. You can get a heart attack if you’re constipated enough haiku.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  30. At least tell me you didnt flee the draft to Canada

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  31. “The crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th, 2017, safety will be restored.”

    If Trump had kept his promise, those poor people (and countless others) would still be alive.
    Dave (445e97) — 10/31/2017 @ 4:13 pm

    Still waiting for the seas to recede. I think they have to be fulfilled in the order they were promised.

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  32. Uzbeki nitwit
    teh Uber driving Shi+heel
    set an example

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  33. Are you disappointed they didn’t take the bait? He’s probably just suffering the same malady as the Vegas gambler..

    Terminal As*holistics.
    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 10/31/2017 @ 4:22 pm

    He’s bad at risk avoidance and suicide by cop?

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  34. 17. “[People will say] This [his winning the Democratic nomination] was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal”

    Now maybe that is a little bit unfair to Obama. He said “began.”

    He couldn’t do it alone.

    It required an Act of Congress to slow the rise of the oceans and heal the planet, but the Waxman-Markey bill died in the Senate. It wasn’t even brought up for a vote.

    For the rest of his two terms, Obama then more or less forgot about it.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  35. Two thoughts about this:

    1. The PA announcer at Dodger Stadium just asked for a moment of silence for “the senseless tragedy in New York.” I can understand lapsing into cliche at times like this, but this tragedy wasn’t “senseless” at all in terms of the worldview of the purposes of the perpetrator. In fact, to him this made great sense: strike at the infidel in his greatest city to show him that he will never be safe from the vengeance of Allah. Happy, progressive, multicultural New York needs to figure this out: while we can’t protect all 8.5 million inhabitants around the clock every day of the year, we can at least recognize that this is something more than just a whole bunch of Islamic schizophrenics going off the rails from time to time.

    2. When the Las Vegas shooting happened, immediately the gun control activists seized upon it to push their agenda. “Forget respectful silence while we mourn the dead,” they told us. “Now is the time to act and agitate for ‘sensible’ gun control.” But somehow I’ll bet those same people will decry any attempts by the President or his supporters to suggest that what happened in New York is Exhibit One for why we should call for a pause on immigration from countries which have problems with Islamic terrorism.

    JVW (47d270)

  36. The families of the victims should send “Thank You” letters to New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman and Governor Andrew Cuomo for suing to enjoin Trump’s travel ban.

    nk (dbc370)

  37. Pull them from their trucks
    and stomp them into a pulp
    this is what happens

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  38. There’s no comparison to “the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet begins to heal”, is it?
    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 10/31/2017 @ 4:31 pm

    Looks like we’re both tuned to 440 hz today.

    Stuttgart Pitch

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  39. Treat them like a Russian would.

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  40. It’s a matter of time until one of these mooks would have been excluded by Trumps order but is here because one of Barry’s pet judges set aside the executive order.

    Thud Muffle (5a4596)

  41. He’s bad at risk avoidance and suicide by cop?

    More like pyromania as a competitive sport for parties who would rather burn it down….you know, Tea Baggers.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  42. I never heard of the Stuttgart Pitch. Thank you for the edumication, Pinandpuller.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  43. WCBS radio dropped away from the CBS Evening News after the television news had finished with this story (unless maybe they never started) WCBS-TV Channel 2, continued with coverage of what happened after 7 p.m but by or after 8 it was back to regular programming. The CBS Evening News (audio only of course) is repeated on WCBS 880 radio every night at 8:30 when there’s not a ball game or something

    Bellevue Hospital, on First Avenue between 25th St, and about 30th St, where four or five innocent victims plus the perpetrator were taken is being guarded by police, like they expect another terrorist, or perhaps Jack Ruby, to show up. The Halloween Parade (there is such a thing?) is going ahead as scheduled, with maybe a little bit extra police protection, and not only is Mayor De Blasio there, as scheduled, but Governor Andrew Cuomo changed his schedule to attend,

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  44. It required an Act of Congress to slow the rise of the oceans and heal the planet, but the Waxman-Markey bill died in the Senate. It wasn’t even brought up for a vote.

    The Waxman-Markey bill that mandated that the oceans stop rising and that the planet start healing. The oceans were going to be subject to a fine of up to $200 trillion dollars if they continued to rise, and the planet faced criminal penalties of up to 10,000 years incarceration if it didn’t heal. It failed on a voice vote when Ted Kennedy snuck off to the bathroom at an inopportune moment.

    JVW (47d270)

  45. Police, on their radio, call ambulances, buses.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  46. excluded by Trumps order..


    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  47. 46

    Do you have property in Florida?

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  48. 43… your lips to teh Schweddy Balls, beenburned!

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  49. II
    And how beguile you? Death has no repose
    Warmer and deeper than the Orient sand
    Which hides the beauty and bright faith of those
    Who make the Golden Journey to Samarkand.

    And now they wait and whiten peaceably,
    Those conquerors, those poets, those so fair:
    They know time comes, not only you and I,
    But the whole world shall whiten, here or there;

    When those long caravans that cross the plain
    With dauntless feet and sound of silver bells
    Put forth no more for glory or for gain,
    Take no more solace from the palm-girt wells.

    When the great markets by the sea shut fast
    All that calm Sunday that goes on and on:
    When even lovers find their peace at last,
    And Earth is but a star, that once had shone.
    James Elroy Flecker

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  50. Can you escape your shame, outrun it or what?

    Fess up to your false flag kernel…

    I know Colonels and believe me, you’re no Colonel

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  51. I really hit a nerve with Tea Baggers.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  52. Ben!, I don’t think you’re reading the Colonel correctly. He’s Colonel Haiku. It’s not supposed to be a real colonel. You know like the guy at the yacht club they call “commodore”. Although for all I know he could be a colonel and I too have known a few. Frankly, for all I know you could be a colonel. Or a 16 year old girl.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  53. The man’s name was: Sayfullo Saipov. He may have been a professional truck driver. He had four traffic tickets.

    The people on bicycles were maybe sitting ducks. I heard there was a concrete wall on both sides so they couldn’t get out of the way even if they saw it coming.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  54. Please tell me there are no birfershanging around like a Guatemalan prosciutto.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  55. You did hit a nerve, beenburned… teh Kundalini Nerve that runs from teh Schweddy Balls right up the spine.

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  56. 53.I really hit a nerve with Tea Baggers.

    Ben!, it’s hard not to hit a nerve when constantly using vulgar homosexual terms. Unfortunately the nerve you hit is the “this guy has no class” nerve. No one wants to engage a person who comes out of the box with filthy name calling.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  57. Well it’s hard to read a man of no words like haikoo, but I’ll take that as an honorary he bestowed upon himself….like giving oneself an endearing nickname. I’ll call him kernel.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  58. Oh don’t get super righteous on me, hoagie. You have a foul mouth and disposition.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  59. @41. =Haiku!= Gesundheit!

    If this had been Moscow and not Manhattan, the ‘Russians’ would “handle it” alright.

    A way back in the Cold War days, my late father spent a great deal of time “negotiating” w/oil folk in the Mideast. And after a month long trip to Saudi Arabia or Libya he’d fly home, and w/a few scotch and sodas in him, let loose his frustrations over dinner on how to handle, as he’d say, ‘the goddamned ‘sand n-ggers.’ ‘We’re a bunch of pussies and they know it,’ he’d say over and over. ‘They grab or kill one of our people, we wring our hands. But do they ever go after any damn Russians? Hell , no. Because they know if they even try to grab a Russian, a few hundred Arabs would be killed within a day or two or a few towns flattened for every Russian grabbed. That’s why they never grab Russians.’ He knew it. The families knew it. The company execs knew it. And the U.S. Embassy staff knew it, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  60. That’s true Ben! but in fairness I usually need a good provoking. I actually try to be civil as long as I’m treated civil. Sometimes I get snarky and joke around like “comrade” and stuff but usually nothing nasty.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  61. Kernel!!

    Now that your shroud has been revealed, (with some difficulty) and your intellect matched to the short bus everything makes sense.

    I was fearful the military had degraded even farther than imagined.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  62. A consultant to CBS says that the perpetrator probably scouted the area before and might show up on earlier security video. He thinks he specifically targeted children and picked Halloween because children would be out. It was 3:05 pm.

    He also thinks it is very good thing he was taken alive.

    (in so many other places they weren’t. In Europe they wore fake suicide belts (which don’t seem to exist now in Europe although they do in Afghanistan and Nigeria SF.) Here he had fake guns and tried suicide by cop

    (but it didn’t work. The New York Police Department is really professional.)

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  63. DCSCA, many of us were aware of what your father knew back in the 70’s-90’s. We all watched as our people were picked off like flies but the Ruskies were never touched. My father had the same term of endearment for the A-rabs but all that stopped when I adopted a black kid. Anyway, it always irritated me that with all our power we didn’t have the will to destroy those who were killing our own.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  64. I’m going to keep asking you to lose the title unless you admit you named yourself out of irony, Kernel..
    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 10/31/2017 @ 5:02 pm

    I’m going to ask you to go by son-burn.

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  65. The New York Police Department is really professional.

    Yeah, sure. The detectives will make sure he is securely handcuffed when they rape him on the way to jail.

    nk (dbc370)

  66. The terrorist left a note in the truck that referenced ISIS.

    What – no video, no Facebook message?

    The driver slammed into a small school bus at Chambers and West St. The 4 people aboard (two adults and 2 children) were injured.

    The Empire State Building and the new 1 World Trade Center are both lit up red white and blue.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  67. The Empire State Building and the new 1 World Trade Center are both lit up red white and blue.

    And the NFL took a knee and faced East.

    66.I’m going to keep asking you to lose the title unless you admit you named yourself out of irony, Kernel..
    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 10/31/2017 @ 5:02 pm

    You have neither that right nor that power here, Ben!. You have no footing to ask anybody to change their handle. I’ve never heard of such a thing on a blog.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  68. Calling them animals is an insult to animals but please continue Pin.
    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 10/31/2017 @ 5:06 pm

    You’re right. I like real animals more than I like fake humans. And if my animals s*** in the street it’s because there aren’t many alternatives.

    And any human who doesn’t like dogs can stay in their Third World Hades Hole.

    Some folks call it a Hell Hole, but I call it a Hades Hole.

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  69. @65. Hoagie, his time dealing w/them was the late 60s into the mid 70s. And the most frustrating thing to him was, the Arabs knew how the U.S. corporate and government people would react so it made negotiating all the more tedious. And they were jst as certain how the Russians would react, too. So they never grabbed any. One afternoon we were told by corporate weenies if any of us were ‘taken’ we were to consider ourselves ‘gone’ — and anything they could try to ‘negotiate’ back was a plus. Wasn’t very comforting.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  70. “Some folks call it a Hell Hole, but I call it a Hades Hole.”

    Teh Return of Karl Childers…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  71. I never heard of the Stuttgart Pitch. Thank you for the edumication, Pinandpuller.
    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 10/31/2017 @ 5:30 pm

    I think Mack Bolan said you never hear the Stuttgart Pitch that hits you.

    Come to think of it, you could be Mack Bolan

    Bolan became an expert sniper with over 90 kills to his record, earning him the nickname “The Executioner”. For all his lethal capability, Bolan was deeply compassionate and became known as “Sgt. Mercy”, because of the aid he often gave to Vietnamese civilians and others who needed help.

    During his service in the Vietnam War, Bolan became highly adept at penetration and intelligence gathering, guerrilla warfare and became a skilled armorer.

    During Bolan’s second tour, his father suffered a heart attack that forced him to leave his job at the steel mill. Unable to work, with bills piling up, Bolan’s father was forced to borrow money from Triangle Industrial Finance (“TIF”), a savings-and-loan outfit known around town as a loansharking operation controlled by the family of Don Sergio Frenchi, the godfather of the Mafia in western Massachusetts. The people at TIF caused the elder Bolan countless problems with their payment demands. On one occasion, their enforcers dislocated his arm as punishment for missing one loan payment, warning him that the same arm would be broken if he missed another.

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  72. I don’t know anyone named Begay-Burn

    But Old Ben lives out Beyond The Dune Sea

    He’s kind of a strange old hermit

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  73. @45 Sammy

    Has DeBlasio had “The Talk” with his kids about Home Depot trucks?

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  74. 46

    Do you have property in Florida?
    Ben burn (b3d5ab) — 10/31/2017 @ 5:34 pm

    If Archimedes gives you piles and a platform to stand on can you leverage The Everglades?

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  75. At this point I’m calling Colonel Haiku your White Whale, Begay-Burn.

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  76. His a myth like the kraut dragon, that the white skeleton you see in the pan of tatatooinr

    narciso (d1f714)

  77. Ben Burns – are you really harassing someone over a username that they’ve been known by on this site for *well more than a decade*?

    I’ve got my issues with Colonel Haiku, but man, that’s his name on this site. Has been forever. Harassing him about his name is just … obnoxious.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  78. “I was fearful the military had degraded even farther than imagined…..”

    When officers are complaining that political correctness and sensitivity training are more important than basic training, training certificates are expired and ships are colliding, that’s degraded enough.

    harkin (05cfd8)

  79. “Harassing him about his name is just … obnoxious.”

    He’s choosing to fight on ground on which he feels most comfortable…..twaddle.

    harkin (05cfd8)

  80. 75/45…well thank God I can go to Menards for thw same kind of rental truck and in a snazzy shade of green. The help at the local Sams Club actually encourages you to DIY deliver at $25 with an HD or Menards truck vs. using their white glove service at $99. Again Lowes can claim the high ground with no day labor outside and no trucks for rent, just like Anakin should have, didn’t and lost his legs-to Ben Burnted?

    urbanleftbehind (35f328)

  81. I think Mack Bolan said you never hear the Stuttgart Pitch that hits you.

    I used the M24 SWS (Sniper Weapon System), which was a Remington 700 in civilian life but modified for the Army. It fired a 7.62mm projectile so @175 gr (which was my choice ballistic) it travelled at about 24-2500 fts and since sound travels about 1100 fts If the shot were true you’d be dead before the sound reached you. So yeah, no Stuttgart Pitch for you!

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  82. Hey, Hoagie, do you think Mrs. Hoagie might like an Armalite AR-30 in .408 Tejas?

    nk (dbc370)

  83. Uh-oh, I take it that ben burn is up to his old tricks. This is a good time to remind everyone of the comment blocking script. Trust me: you’ll be a lot happier if you install it and start blocking certain commenters.

    JVW (47d270)

  84. …and as if on cue, the god of irony today gives us an actual man driving a truck running down children to kill them…but rather than being a Republican Gillespie supporter as Latino Victory presents in their political ad in Virginia, this real life killer is a jihadist!

    Tom O'Caheragh (c15aaa)

  85. Bradley cioprr is suposrdcto be slated to play Mac bolan and being considered for hutrwitz organ x series

    narciso (d1f714)

  86. Wow! That Armalite is a fantastic weapon. Make it look like I was firing a friggin’ musket. My longest kill shot was 640 yards (yes, we used yards). I hit him center mass as he looked straight at me through binoculars. I assume he didn’t see me.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  87. C’mon, we’re all friends here… some are less seasoned than others. Beenburned gets scorched on a regular basis, he takes a kickin’ and keeps on lickin’.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  88. Got any of that,

    narciso (d1f714)

  89. @89. =Haiku! Gesundheit! Whereas our Colonel is just finger lickin’ good. 😉

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  90. 77… c’mon, PandP… I know I’ve put on a few pounds and I’m fast loosing my tan, but that was hurtful, man…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  91. “Rapper: I battle any sex or any race / You beating me is like Billy Crystal playin Scarface / I can’t see it, I’m blind to the eyes / I came up in your face – oops, pow, surprise! Oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!”
    Chappelle’s Show

    You can’t Ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh! your own comments, Begay-Burn

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  92. Looking like Houston is going to do it tonight.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  93. Err… not so fast…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  94. @95 They better get hot pretty soon, Col… they only have 3 of those out-thingies left.

    (SSG) Gramps (a079bc)

  95. I ain’t no Halah

    Back, girl!

    No I ain’t no Halah

    Back, girl!

    Pinandpuller (ae46b2)

  96. Well, it looks like the Series will go to seven games. Again.

    Other than that, how was your Halloween? Or as Kevin Spacey would call it, Home Delivery?

    nk (dbc370)

  97. Great game, gramps!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  98. Dodger fan since 1963, I’ve never been so puckered over the last two innings.

    Kenley only needing 7 pitches in the 8th was huge.

    Funny thing, if Dodgers weren’t in it I’d be rooting Astros all the way. Team is great and their fans deserve a title.

    May the best team win tomorrow.

    harkin (05cfd8)

  99. Greetings:

    Have the “let’s not have any backlash on Muslims speeches started yet ???

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  100. It’s at this point that the FBI will get involved so that, “We may never know what the motive was for this senseless act of violence.”

    Allahu Akbar!

    By the way, that doesn’t mean “god is great.” That would be Allahu Kabar. Allahu Akbar means “god is greater.” This can be shouted under different circumstances and mean different things, but in this kind of circumstance it is a war cry. “Allah is greater” than your God, your government, your king or president, whatever.

    By the way, does anybody wonder why he brought the toy pistols to a gunfight with the NYPD?

    Surah 9:111

    Indeed, Allah has purchased from the believers their lives and their properties [in exchange] for that they will have Paradise. They fight in the cause of Allah, so they kill and are killed. [It is] a true promise [binding] upon Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur’an. And who is truer to his covenant than Allah ? So rejoice in your transaction which you have contracted. And it is that which is the great attainment.

    It was to give the cops a reason to shoot him. If he could have brought real pistols he would have but the toys served his purpose. This is the only guarantee a Muslim has of reaching Islamic paradise (whoever wrote this piece of fiction, and based upon the manuscript, numismatic, and archeological evidence it certainly wasn’t any divinity or some 7th century caravan trader named Muhammad, didn’t know you won’t find this “true and binding promise” in Tanakh or the Gospel). Trying to get the cops to kill you is one of the goals of these jihadis. Michael Adebolajo who with a couple of friends killed Drummer Rigby in London a few years back stood around and made a video manifesto about why he had done the deed while waiting for the cops to show up and shoot him.

    But no 72 virgins (and that’s just a minimum; some of your more pious Muslims will get tens of thousands, so many that some of the Islamic traditions say the men will be gifted with eternal erections so they can spend eternity deflowering their virgins) tonight for Sayfullo Habibullaevic Saipov. The police showed up and obligingly shot him, but like Adebolajo only wounded him.

    Oh, by the by, before the FBI gets around and declares it’s impossible to figure out a motive let me tell you what this guy’s motive was. Since he’s from Uzbekistan odds greatly lean toward him being a Sunni. The English word derives from what they call themselves in Arabic. Ahlus Sunnah wa’al Jemaa; the adherents of the Sunnah (of Muhammad) and of the congregation. The largest part of the Sunnah are the ahadith collections. The ahadith are reports in Arabic. Reports of the teachings of Muhammad. The second most authoritative text in Sunni Islam after the Quran is the ahadith collection of Imam al-Bukhari. So let us turn now to Sahih al-Bukhari (you can follow along in your own hymnals; I hope you brought them).

    Sahih al-Bukhari – Book of Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)

    (38) Chapter: The superiority of the one who prepares a Ghazi (note: warrior) or looks after his dependents

    Narrated Zaid bin Khalid:

    Allah’s Messenger said, ” He who pre pares a Ghazi going in Allah’s Cause is given a reward equal to that of) a Ghazi; and he who looks after properly the dependents of a Ghazi going in Allah’s Cause is (given a reward equal to that of) Ghazi.”

    So, now we must turn to the Quran.

    Surah 5:33

    Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment,

    Just as Islam promises the same reward of paradise for for anyone who arms and equips a jihadi that the jihadi will get, it works the same on the flip side. Whoever arms and equips a soldier going to war against these Islamic “holy warriors,” or takes care of their dependents, gets the same “reward” as the soldiers. That is, anyone who pays taxes. And what is their reward? It is “none but that they be killed or crucified.”

    It was driving me crazy today, listening to Di Blasio or Cuomo go on and on about how this guy killed “innocent civilians.” We are losing this war because leftist like Imams Obama, Clinton, Kerry, Di Blasio and Cuomo are ideologically committed to insane notion that Islam CAN NOT have any connection to terrorism.

    So when the agent in charge of the FBI field office announces he and his “top men” just can’t discern a motive, in a way he won’t be lying. Because since 2011 it’s been a firing offense to even read the enemy’s playbook; their holy texts. Let alone connect the dots. There are agents who know better, but those trained by realists had to go through Muslim Brotherhood reeducation camps and then retrained by CAIR-approved trainers. Who told them no how no way does Islam have anything to do with terrorism.

    This is kind of like how things would have been in WWII if we had a Nazi sympathizer as CinC during WWII who demanded that all our trainers be replaced with Gestapo agents, or during the Cold War we had a Communist sympathizer as President who demanded all our law enforcement, NatSec, and military trainers be fired and replaced by KGB officers.

    For the past eight years we’ve had an Islamic extremist sympathizer as President. In October 2011 a group of Muslim Brotherhood front groups wrote the Brennan, then Obama’s National Security adviser, and demanded they fire all the “Islamophobes” then training our people, sanitize all our training materials to remove any reference to Islam, and reeducate anyone whose mind had been poisoned by those “Islamophobic” trainers. Using, of course, Muslim Brotherhood-approved trainers.

    And the result of Obama’s deliberate betrayal? 3 killed and 264 wounded at the Boston Marathon in 2013 for one thing. Because when the Russian passed the information that the older Tsarnaev brother had gone to the Muslim caucuses to train for Jihad, the FBI as a matter of official policy couldn’t do anything with the information. Because their MB-approved trainers had pounded it into their skulls that Jihad is just an internal spiritual struggle to better oneself and it was “Islamophobia” to think it was anything else.

    I just quoted from Bukhari’s book of Jihad. Just like the Quran it hardly ever talks about some internal spiritual struggle.

    Sahih al-Bukhari – Book of Fighting for the Cause of Allah (Jihaad)

    (7) Chapter: The wish for martyrdom

    Narrated Abu Huraira:

    The Prophet said, “By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya’ (army-unit) setting out in Allah’s Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred.

    Yeah, Muhammad really sounds like he’s talking about an internal spiritual struggle for moral improvement, doesn’t he? And jihad can mean that, don’t get me wrong. There are all sorts of jihad. Iran’s government has a department of agricultural jihad. Jihad just means struggle. But in another hadith someone asks Muhammad what is the best jihad. Muhammad responds that the best jihad is that in which a man sheds his blood and his horse is wounded.

    But when the Russian government tried to share that information about Tsarnaev going to Russia to learn how to wage jihad all the FBI agents could do was say, “That’s great, he was studying how to increase in piety and become a better person.” And yes, it was that stupid.

    Obama’s refusal to connect Islam with terrorism caused a great deal of damage. It was in fact a betrayal bordering on treason for many reasons.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  101. Thanks for nuttin’ Aphrael but I respond in kind to drive-bus and I don’t care how long Haiku has faked rank.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  102. drive bys

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  103. This Goldman Sacks Schlemiel thinks he can buy the WH….oops.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  104. tom-steyer-impeach-trump-petition-one-million-signatures

    Sounds about right. That’s the estimated number of trannies in the United States — around 0.3% of the population.

    nk (dbc370)

  105. Or is it half of them and the other half million is their mothers?

    nk (dbc370)

  106. Mince on, beenburned…

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  107. Or it could be one-third of them and the other two-thirds is their mothers and fathers.

    nk (dbc370)

  108. Terrorists from nations separated from the United States by oceans would have a far more difficult time getting here if it were not legal for them to travel here. This terrorist, like nearly all those responsible for 9/11, was in United States legally.

    To change that state of affairs is very simple, but some of our judges have decided that it should be illegal to inconvenience the non-terrorists from those countries who wish to come here. The result is that we must have an oppressive security state here, down to the level of bike lanes, affecting every US citizen, rather than a stricter system of legal entry which would inconvenience a small number of foreigners.

    Frederick (845ef7)

  109. I got it! It’s one-fourth of them and the other three-fourths is their mothers, their fathers and the people who sell size 12 stiletto heels.

    nk (dbc370)

  110. Greetings:

    Have the “let’s not have any backlash on Muslims speeches started yet ???

    11B40 (6abb5c) — 10/31/2017 @ 10:14 pm

    Why, yes, actually.

    Because we all know that when a Muslim or group of Muslims in fits of piety go on killing sprees and slaughter unbelieving infidels, the primary victims aren’t the unbelieving infidels. The primary victims are the peaceful Muslims of myth and legend.

    Who 90% of the time knowingly and willingly act as Mao’s ocean in which the terrorist fish can swim undetected.

    …NOTE: Montemayor severely clips this quotable quote from the sentencing memorandum filed by the prosecution in the case of Guled Omar:

    Respect for the law is a particularly important factor in this case. No trial in the aggregate memory of the U.S. Attorney’s Office has been conducted in more of an atmosphere of intimidation, harassment, and incipient violence than the trial of this case. The families of cooperating defendants were harassed in the courtroom, in full view of the testifying witness; there was a fistfight in the corridor outside the courtroom; multiple individuals had to be ejected from the courtroom for not following the Court’s rules of behavior. A stern sentence is needed to promote respect for the law, to demonstrate clearly that this is a nation of laws.

    * * * * *

    As the Court witnessed in the Courtroom and surrounding press coverage, despite the gravity of the charges, the defendants had significant community support.

    The court was packed with supporters from the Somali community. Attempting to intimidate the cooperating witnesses and actually assaulting their families and friends. So, should we be no less surprised when in the UK the same thing happened as Islamic child rape gang members were tried and convicted. And as they were led out it was to thunderous cries of Allahu Akbar. As one of the wives of the convicted rapists put it, their husbands were the real victims (Muslims are always the real victims). The real problem was those little white tramps with no fear of Allah, who got exactly what they deserved.

    The problem with these Sharia supremacists is that while they may never become terrorists they share the same ideology as the terrorists. They may not strap a bomb vest on and blow themselves up in a mall but with a great deal of justification, like ISIS, among other shared beliefs they believe non-Muslim girls exist for their sexual pleasure.

    Surah 33:59

    O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused. And ever is Allah Forgiving and Merciful.

    Translation: infidel girls who don’t cover themselves up like Muslimas may be abused. Allah tells them so.

    How big of a problem is this? About half of the 1.6 billion Muslims in the world share this Sharia supremacist ideology.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  111. FRANKLY, this directive is nutz

    Pruitt used a story from the Book of Joshua to help explain the new policy.

    On the journey to the promised land, “Joshua says to the people of Israel: choose this day whom you are going to serve,” Pruitt said. “This is sort of like the Joshua principle — that as it relates to grants from this agency, you are going to have to choose either service on the committee to provide counsel to us in an independent fashion or chose the grant. But you can’t do both. That’s the fair and great thing to do.”

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  112. nk @ 67.

    Well, I was thinking of those policemen who aren’t intentionally committing crimes.

    They’re fewer of them in New York too, I think.

    And also of the ones assigned to more prominent locations.

    Now they have done things wrong there, too, although it was still professional, in its own way

    There was the time two construction workers walked up to 2 policemen on anti-terror duty outside the Empire State Building and told them that a man who had just passed them had just killed someone.

    They left their post (as they were supposed to) and started to stop him (as they were supposed to, but shouldn’t have been – it was not he greatest way to proceed)

    And you know, the construction workers were telling the truth!

    The suspect started to pull out a gun.

    The policemen fired off many shots. They killed him before he could fire a shot.. But they also wounded maybe half a dozen other people. They have sued the city and won settlements I think.

    The police department didn’t game things out – what if someone tells you somebody just killed someone and that’s true?

    Stopping him immediately to question him, when he is walking quietly, in a place where a lot of people are, may not be the best move. Even if you can hit him before he hits you.

    But here anyway, one policeman intervened, fired only one bullet, and the perpetrator is alive, which is something ISIS manifestly didn’t want. The FBI probably will question him a little bit under the Obama/Holder limited justification that they are inquiring about possible future attacks he may know about, and later they’ll bring to his attention, or his lawyer’s, that he can get the death penalty, because it is a federal case, and he has a wife and children, and maybe he has second thoughts about ending his life. and of course there are things he may just give away. Like, is there any clergyman he would like to be contacted, or whom he would like his wife to contact?

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  113. The Empire State Building and the new 1 World Trade Center are both lit up red white and blue.

    69. Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7) — 10/31/2017 @ 6:13 pm

    And the NFL took a knee and faced East.

    At the World Series, which is now going to go into November, they had amoment of silence for victims.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  114. …This terrorist, like nearly all those responsible for 9/11, was in United States legally…

    Frederick (845ef7) — 11/1/2017 @ 6:24 am

    He got here on the, I’m not sh*tting you, Diversity Visa Program. It was Chuck Schumer’s brain child. Apparently it works like this: the DoS has to determine what third world h3ll holes we don’t have enough people from. Then hand out visas like candy in those countries.

    Has any Democrat in the history of the United States ever had anything other than a disastrous idea?

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  115. So evangelicalism as an approach to Jesus and an approach to wanting to convert the world is fairly solid, but evangelicalism as a political movement is definitely in crisis.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  116. ““The Arabic chant, Allahu Akbar, God is great, sometimes said under the most beautiful of circumstances, and too often we hear it being said in moments like this.”

    —— Jake “the Snake” Tapper

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  117. the Left will use these attacks as pretexts to blame western, modern Judeo-Christianity as the source of the problem… as we’ve just seen beenburned try to do.

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  118. prosecutors and FBI agents (including Mueller himself): they are fiercely protective of their cooperators. By attacking Papadopoulos as a liar, Trump hardly signals his good faith to Mueller. After all, Mueller is offering Papadopoulos’s testimony as true. So Trump is not just assaulting the special counsel’s cooperator; Trump is contradicting Mueller, and maybe even hinting that Mueller is intentionally offering the testimony of a liar.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  119. 103. 11B40 (6abb5c) — 10/31/2017 @ 10:14 pm

    let’s not have any backlash on Muslims speeches started yet ???

    This time, we have President Trump fomenting backlash, although not on Muslims currently residing inside the United States, but on would be immigrants from all over the world and on Democrats.

    He’s attacking New York Senator and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer on the grounds that Schumer is responsible for the diversity visa lottery program, under which Sayfullo Saipov first came to the United States in 2010 (at the age of 21 or 22 that would be) stopping first in Ohio.

    Trump is using this to say, like a salesman with a limited inventory of goods, that whatever he is, or was, in favor of, is right, whether it makes sense or not. He’s trying to say “I told you so” even though he didn’t.

    Extreme vetting!

    The vetting is already good enough (and besides he’s already done it) But even before it was good enough.

    Terrorist groups have been deterred from even trying to send anyone to the United States. That’s a nice way to get a plot detected if they send more than one. And there’s no point also, by the way, in getting anyone into the United States who doesn’t yet speak English well, or is unfamiliar with the United States unless you also get their leaders.

    People with special skills, like bombmakers, would be useful, but there are no bombmakers coming. Most of them are known. Nor any bombs. Drug smugglers probably find the idea too risky. And you can’t learn how to build one properly from the Internet.

    Terrorists also can’t get guns in many cases, or don’t know how to use them.

    They’ve resorted now to bombless trucks, and they make almost no effort to get anybody new into the United States who might be excluded.

    They did, with a lot of effort, get a co-conspirator wife for one person in California who couldn’t find anybody else to join him. (and not back out)

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  120. Eisen is part of brocks crew.

    narciso (d1f714)

  121. Linda Sarsour in deflection mode. She also tweeted yesterday some sanctimonious stuff like Americans should be able to safely walk their streets and sidewalks after calling for jihad a few months ago…

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  122. His mosque in Patterson was under surveillance.

    narciso (d1f714)

  123. Sarsour is a leading light for lefty womyn… again, the Left colludes with radical Islam, e.g., Antifa throws in with ISIS.

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  124. Wear that pussyhat, beenburned. Own it!

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  125. Ben Burn: so what you’re saying is you have no problem walking into a community and violating its social norms because you disagree with them. Since that’s a huge part of Trump’s shtick, why is it that you don’t support him?

    aphrael (3f0569)

  126. The Gods of the Copybook Headings limp up to explain it once more.

    Frederick (64d4e1)

  127. 104.

    Allahu Akbar!

    By the way, that doesn’t mean “god is great.” That would be Allahu Kabar

    That could be correct. I don’t know Arabic so maybe it has an intensification like that. But the root kbr (which I have been told is cognate to the Hebrew Gbr) doesn’t mean “great” but powerful, in the sense of warfare.

    The correct meaning would be: God is the most powerful/strongest/mightiest. (in the sense used in Ecclesiastes 9:11 and Jeremiah 9:22)

    Used, of course, when it is not at all rational to believe that they would win.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  128. Not all are Huckabeasts. Some actually follow their Leader.

    More than 350 faith leaders from across the country] gathered in late October as part of a three-day Prophetic Resistance Summit convened by the People Improving Communities through Organizing (PICO) Network, a massive, nationwide web of interfaith coalitions that regularly campaign to change local, state, and national laws in ways that benefit underserved communities.

    But for many in the crowd, being a person of faith means there are some things they refuse to be “nice” about. White supremacy, voter suppression, and the unjust treatment of Muslims, Jews, and immigrants are just a few of them. And unlike figureheads of the conservative Religious Right who often grab headlines for vociferously defending Donald Trump, this group had little (if anything) “nice” to say about the president or his administration. […]

    For them, “resistance” isn’t just a political slogan. It’s a spiritual edict.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  129. Some people do have a sense of shame after all:

    Yesterday evening, the Latino Victory Fund deleted its video ad that had depicted a pickup truck with a Confederate flag, an Ed Gillespie bumper sticker, and a Gadsden-flag license plate chasing and attempting to run down minority children. Following the terror attack in downtown Manhattan on Tuesday afternoon, the group removed the video from YouTube and deleted its tweets promoting the ad, including one in which the group defended the video in the face of immediate and sustained criticism.

    Or maybe they realized it was going to hurt them a lot more than it helped.

    Frederick (64d4e1)

  130. I had to really look hard for that good faith news

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  131. 127. narciso (d1f714) — 11/1/2017 @ 7:45 am

    His mosque in Patterson was under surveillance.

    In 2006, maybe not recently.

    His name came up in some “unrelated” investigation, though.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  132. But Trump’s recent effusive praise of Xi has raised eyebrows among the White House’s conservative allies, who wonder which Trump will show up to Asia: the hard-charging iconoclast who declared during the campaign that China was “raping” the United States or the smooth-talking deal-maker who sees hope for improved relations.

    “It’s my raging nightmare that he’s going to congratulate Xi on his ‘reelection,’” said Derek Scissors, a China expert at the American Enterprise Institute.

    The Trump administration has already made a series of rookie mistakes.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  133. White supremacy, voter suppression, and the unjust treatment of Muslims, Jews, and immigrants are just a few of them.

    Hahahahaha. That is absolutely hilarious. PICO refuses to ne “nice” about a bunch of leftist propaganda that either does not exist in America or if I does is so minor as to be insignificant. You could probably add climate change, homophobia, Islamophobia, hate speech, misogyny and LBGTQXS#6R rights. And throw in the persecution of the Hildabeast and saving the polar bear.

    Daily Kos, really, Ben!? Even you, Commissar of Blog Propaganda and Commandant of Tractor Barn #5 should know Kos goes nowhere here. No Beet Vodka for you!

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  134. Patterico has commented that right after some event like this, the facts aren’t right. That is true here.

    The first thing I read (from ABC) seemed to be saying that truck both entered the highway and stopped at Chambers Street while also traveling on the highway. I did not manage to figure that one out correctly..

    It actually entered at Houston Street (equivalent to Zero [0] Street) which is just north of the exit of the Holland Tunnel, and traveled south about one mile till Chambers Street (Chambers Street forms the northern boundary of City Hall)

    Also, he was an Uber driver, not a truck driver. Uber says he passed their background check (which he should have: good license, reasonable driving record, no criminal record) He only had traffic tickets from Missouri, Florida and New Jersey.

    He had a white Toyota with Florida license plates (and a Florida driver’s license) which he left at the Home Depot parking lot in Paterson, New Jersey. He had been living there with his wife and children since at least sometime this summer. He spoke good English, says the store manager, a woman, of the Farm Boy Super Fresh Super Supermarket on Getty Avenue in Paterson, New Jersey.

    He had a terrible temper, at least recently, but maybe before. A neighbor in Tampa says he was an aggressive driver, and once got into an argument with him over something that happened in a parking lot. In the supermarket on Getty Avenue he was always arguing with the cashiers. He would accuse them of not being able to scan things right. A particular bête noire with him was the price of 12-pack cans of Canada Dry Ginger Ale. He would say that the price rung up on the register was wrong and he would blame the cashiers, and call them uneducated, dumb, and sometimes break the cans. Every time he came in there was an argument. (it apparently never dawned on him that if there was a problem, the problem was with the store, or maybe some cashiers gave in to him, and he accepted that as right?)

    The store manager noted that he would criticize all the cashiers whether they wearing a hijab or not. He was always belittling them.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  135. Oh hoagie. If only Jesus could hear you.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  136. Beenburned, KosKid… who woulda thunk it!?!?

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  137. I think there is a way to prevent this:

    Have truck rental places keep a registry of all their customers. Have every new customer make a video, using his own words that must include solemnly declaring himself opposed to murdering people and expressing hatred for and a desire for the end of ISIS, and hope they will be punished with the most severe penalties anyone ever gets and an intention to do anything he can to combat it. The video should be updated periodically, and perhaps when someone changes their address,

    The videos can be taken by cellphone. But they have to be uploaded and received by anti-terrorist headquarters before he gets the keys. If someone declines to make the video after agreeing to a rental, his driver’s license information is uploaded and he doesn’t get the truck.

    The reason this would work is that ISIS would not want such videos by their terrorists decrying and opposing their terrorism to exist.

    A second advantage would be if someone was identifiable by voiceprint or facial recognition software. This has to be done quickly so the truck can be intercepted.

    Now in time, ISIS might come up with a special formula to be used by their terrorists. But they would be the only ones using that script. This script might become known to the U.S. government and when someone uses that special formula, it would be known they were terrorists and the rental place called and told to try to keep him there so he can be interrogated.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  138. 142.Oh hoagie. If only Jesus could hear you.

    He hears me Ben!. He hears you too. More importantly, He hears what is in our hearts that we don’t say.

    Now I gotta go for pulmonary therapy. TTFN.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  139. @Sammy:Have truck rental places keep a registry of all their customers. Have every new customer make a video, using his own words that must include solemnly declaring himself opposed to murdering people and expressing hatred for and a desire for the end of ISIS, and hope they will be punished with the most severe penalties anyone ever gets and an intention to do anything he can to combat it. The video should be updated periodically, and perhaps when someone changes their address,

    Shall we also do this for crock pots? And what about normal rental cars? Maybe to save time, we should just have all persons present in the US do this periodically?

    Frederick (64d4e1)

  140. 135 – “Or maybe they realized it was going to hurt them a lot more than it helped.”

    The left is great at projecting their own behavior onto their political enemies.

    Look at the media/Hollywood and all the sexual abuse of women and girls (and boys). But The Handmaid’s Tale is about Trumpkins!!

    harkin (05cfd8)

  141. Chuck shumer strikes again with his diversity immigration scheme. Hey, muslim terrorists are diverse!

    diversity (bf72e5)

  142. I don’t know that this originated with Chuck Schumer. I can check.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  143. The CBS Evening News said that Schumer supported the bill creating the diversity visas (he was on the House Judiciary Committee’s immigration subcomittee at the time) but in 2013 he proposed getting rid of it.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  144. Update: There were 10-15 pieces of paper with writing left in the truck. It’s not been revealed what they say, but sources said he said (among other things) that Islamic State would live forever. 10 to 15? Different drafts?

    He’s been charged. He was taken to federal court in a wheelchair (that wouldn’t mean he is paralyzed or anything. Hospitals frequently put people in wheelchairs who can’t easily walk very much – and he was shot in the abdomen.)

    This arraignment may have been rushed because President Trump was saying something about taking him to Guantanamo, and I suppose they didn’t want to do that.

    He was ordered held without bail.

    He is talking. He’s mainly boasting about his success. He also said he did not intentionally crash into the school bus but wanted to go on and get on to the Brooklyn Bridge.

    That’s where Ari Halberstam was killed back in 1994 in something that the FBI did not want to label a terrorist attack. There’s an Ari Halberstam Memorial ramp there now. An Arab terrorist (they weren’t all Islamacists then) wanted to kill some Jews. The way he coud be sure it was Jews was by attacking the bus that visited the Lubavicher Rebbe. They used to take high school age boys to see him. He had had a stroke in 1992 and he was pretty much or all out of it by the way.

    Anyway he was heading there.

    Another thing is he requested that the Islamic State flag he left in the truck be brought to his hospital room and hung up.

    It’s reported that he did a sort of dry run on October 22 – trying to learn all the turns he would need to make. They may have that from camera footage.

    They checked a cell phone of his. It had 90 propaganda videos, including one featuring Bagdadi himself, and 3,800 images related to terrorism.

    Five of the eight people killed were friends of each other from Rosario, Argentina, near Buenos Aires, who were on a bicycle tour. There were eight in that group according to a picture. They are business now who have known each other since high school 30 years ago. The city of Rosario declared three days of mourning for them. Another was from either Brazil or Belgium. Two were New Yorkers. Only three people remain in the hospital.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  145. Apparently there is a second person of interest, Mohammed kadirov

    narciso (d1f714)

  146. The CBS Evening News Can be trusted to provide as much cover for Schumer – or any other Democrat – as they can possibly get away with, Sammy.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  147. To be fair, as tucker pointed out, the diversity visa which was originally crafted around Irish immigration, had supporters in d’amato and grassley.

    narciso (d1f714)

  148. How was it different than the visa lottery mentioned in the latter half of this 1988 Pogues ditty?

    urbanleftbehind (07659c)

  149. After winning the Green Card Lottery, this bloodthirsty monster was subsequently able to bring in an additional 23 ‘family member’ links in his chain of immigration.

    Since he anchors that chain, and since his terrorism disqualifies him to remain alive, there is no basis to allow his ‘family members’ to reside in the US.

    It should be US law that any immigrant who commits an act of terrorism, or is convicted of a second felony, thereby forfits the US residency of all non-citizen ‘family member’ immigrants, including but not limited to Green Card holders.

    ropelight (e67740)

  150. Look how quickly we know all about the murderer, his recent activities, etc., and note how many questions regarding Las Vegas remain and how it has disappeared from the news cycle.

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  151. Why do you suppose that is, Colonel?

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  152. ropelight (e67740) — 11/2/2017 @ 7:08 am

    After winning the Green Card Lottery, this bloodthirsty monster was subsequently able to bring in an additional 23 ‘family member’ links in his chain of immigration.

    I don’t think that’s possible. He couldn’t have brought anyone for years. But he wasn’t the only member of his family (loosely defined) here.

    It should be US law that any immigrant who commits an act of terrorism, or is convicted of a second felony, thereby forfeits the US residency of all non-citizen ‘family member’ immigrants, including but not limited to Green Card holders.

    That’s collective punishment, which has been out of fashion for around 3,000 years. And the constitution of the United States takes a stand against “corruption of blood” (albeit only in cases of treason, but that didn’t mean it was considered OK in other cases) in Article 3, Secion 3, clause 2.

    This is really taking the idea that if something shouldn’t have happened, everything that resulted from it also shouldn’t.

    He married a woman from Uzbekistan and had 3 children. So should the wife be deported (I don’t know if she came independently) and the children killed, since they maybe never should have been born?

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  153. Why do you suppose that is, Colonel?

    Us, Kernel. Tell us.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  154. sorry wrong post

    mg (31009b)

  155. Hoagie… it is a very curious thing. Changing timelines, law enforcement did open fire upon entering the room, the wounded security guard’s activities immediately after the massacre, coached interview… the killer’s travels, hard dive disappearance… all sorts of things just don’t add up. And nothing in the news… like it never happened.

    It has disappeared just like the Sanders supporter and his attempted murder of Republican Congress people has.

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  156. Make that hard-drive

    Colonel Haiku (61b436)

  157. That’s disappointing, Kernel. Try visualization..

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  158. Then the answer is clear and self evident, Colonel. The shooter in both cases must be leftist Democrats. Thanks for helping to clear that up.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  159. 158. 159. I think we know more about Stephen Paddock than we do about Sayfullo Saipov. We do know a little about what he did after the crime, but that’s because he’s alive, and perhaps authorities are saying things about him.

    The New York Times has an article about him today but I think it’s smaller than what they wrote about Stephen Paddock. It’s happening sooner, though.

    It turns out he was both a truck driver and a Uber driver. He worked driving a semi, but the last six months when he lived in New Jersey (while he was pondering terrorism – he decided to do something in New York maybe a year ago, but only settled on crashing a truck into people about two months ago) he was an Uber driver. He never got the kind of job he held in Tashhkent – accountant for a bad hotel. He cut his ties with Uzbekistan right away – didn’t register with the Uzbeki consulate like the dictatorship wanted him to.

    There’s an iman in Florida he did not learn religion properly. He says that’s “the main disease in the Muslim community.”

    So here we have another “born again” Muslim.

    The imam, who said he didn’t want his last name published because he feared reprisals, says he used to tell him he was too emotional and he should read books more and learn his religion first before…What? Getting angry at the U.S. fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq?

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  160. You guys wrapped that mystery pretty quick. Pure genius.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  161. We took a stab at it. I rather think of us as gifted, not genius. But thanks.

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  162. You’re very welcome.

    Ben burn (b3d5ab)

  163. The Las Vegas police are nothing more than torpedoes for the casinos.
    The FBI … well, Sheldon Adelson, big casino owner, is a major Trump donor and met with Trump personally after the incident to discuss ways to heal the damage to his profit margin.

    As for this man-caused disaster, wait three days.

    nk (dbc370)

  164. As for this man-caused disaster, wait three days.

    Why? Are the victims of Schumer’s immigration policy going to rise from the dead?

    Rev.Hoagie® (6bbda7)

  165. Marren the CEO of mgm believes in skydragons and Hillary, now Prince talal owns the four seasons inside, in partnership with Bill gates

    narciso (b573b8)

  166. Colonel Haiku @164 @7:35 am about Las Vegas

    it is a very curious thing. Changing timelines, law enforcement did open fire upon entering the room,

    That they opened fire upon entering the room was always clear to me.

    the wounded security guard’s activities immediately after the massacre,

    A BIG question is how seriously was he wounded? The tiem of his wound was moved from 10:24 (apparently when it was first reported on police radio) to 10:18 (apparently when he first told police, to 10:17 (apparently somebody later subtracted a minute), to 9:59, or six minutes before the shooting started (apparently when he first reported the alarm) to “40 seconds before the shooting started” (apparently for no good reason) to just after the shooting started.

    In his one interview on the Ellen Degeneris show he said the reason he didn’t report his wound to hotel security is that he wanted to keep the frequency clear because others wanted to use it. He on;y reported that shots had been fired. You have to wonder exactly how serious that wound was. Not enough for him to want any kind of require medical attention for at least 10 minutes.

    coached interview…

    Also, he wouldn’t answer certain questions. Or maybe Ellen agreed not to ask. I don’t know.

    And there might be some question about whether the security guard had met all the requirements to be hired for that job. Although maybe there aren’t any legal ones. There’s a course of training an armed guard must get, but they have to pay for it themselves and tehir pay doesn’t go up much. Even retired policemen have to take that course..

    AND WHAT WAS THE REASON for his going incommunicado into ahospital cancelling interviews, and maybe a trip to Baja California?

    There’s another thing: Many crimes are not reported by casinos to police. That would be why he didn’t have a cell phone, only a walkie talkie of some sort. In 2017!

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  167. Why? Are the victims of Schumer’s immigration policy going to rise from the dead?

    It will disappear from the news cycle as though they were never killed.

    Like the murder of Justine Damond.

    nk (dbc370)

  168. Colonel Haiku, continued:

    the killer’s travels,

    His whole life and source of income isn’t clear!

    And they didn’t get straight when he registered in the hotel. The way it stands now he registered twice, Monday, Sept 25 and Thursday Sept 28.

    First they gave the date Sept 28, then they gave the date Sept 25 but said he only parked there maybe, then they said both. They say now the second time he added his girlfriend (?) and he changed his payment method (which might simply mean he changed the credit card) and hat’s why there was confusion.

    He added his girlfriend? Now he had sent away the one he was living with to the Phillipines and told her to stay longer and to buy real estate and had wired her money.

    He was seen with a woman the last week in las Vegas but they say he was a prostitute whose name they are protecting – not the same one he saw nine times and said he tied her up and enacted rape scenes.

    They also the battery charger that didn’t match any device he had has been explained, but they don’t explain what the explanation is. They found something? It belonged to a previous guest? (people leave chargers behind all the time) It belonged to the prostitute?

    Paddock had maybe originally planned it for the week before, at anogter music festival i LAs Vegas some distance away, but the condomium apartment he was able to rent via AirBNB didn’t suit him.

    And he had maybe planned to do this in Chicago, reserving one room for Aug 1 and then another for Aug 3 to end on Aug 6 – and he had to argue with the manager of he Blackstone Hotel to get the rooms he wanted – but apparently he then never showed up. Maybe taking all those guns cross country was too much trouble, or his health got bad for awhile, or he just wasn’t ready to end his life.

    He may have been engaged in money laundering – reporting that he made his income from gambling even if he had a net loss.

    hard dive disappearance…

    This one I don’t remember.

    Did he destroy his own hard drive? Adam Lanza did too. Although this is also Pakistani/terrorist tradecraft.

    They are saying things about Adam Lanza now too. (in very recently released files)

    That he mentioned committing this exact crime – killing his mother and then going into that Sandy hook school – (or at least someone claimed he did) almost two years before.

    I am kind of skeptical that really happened. Maybe what really happened is that somebody encouraged him, and later encouraged him to destroy the evidence of their communication. But Alex Jones doesn’t like that kind of conspiracy. He prefers to pretend that maybe it never happened and was all made up.

    I think people like Adam Lanza him would change their targets unless they have some really strong reason for picking them.

    Police also say they got some other warning about Adam Lanza doing something but couldn’t do anything because the guns were owned by his mother, not him.

    all sorts of things just don’t add up. And nothing in the news… like it never happened.

    Las Vegas has dropped from the news now, wit a lot of loose threads, although it took a while. The last thing was that they found his missing brother, (simple arithmetic told you there was a missing brothsr since it was mentioned there were four and only two were quoted in the stories, and 4 minus 3 = 1. None of the news stories ever gave the name of the missing brother.

    He was wanted for child pornography for two or three years and was found hiding in a nursing home, but they said this has nothing to do with Stephen Paddock.

    It has disappeared just like the Sanders supporter and his attempted murder of Republican Congress people has.

    That one dropped from the news, but not with any mystery remaining. It was last mentioned when Congressman Scalise returned to the House. The attacker seems to have come up with the idea on his own. Mostly. He seems to have done all the research on his own.

    Sammy Finkelman (20d02d)

  169. Closing the barn door afer the horse has fled:




    More than 10 years ago, Eric Ng was struck and killed by a drunken motorist who drove for more than a mile on the bike path of the Hudson River Greenway. He was killed at about the same location where the driver in a terror attack entered the bike path on Tuesday.

    Despite calls to improve safety on the path since that time, recommended steps were not taken. In particular, bollards — metal poles that would block vehicles from accessing the path — were not installed at most of the access points where cars can turn onto the path…..

    …Most of the path is edged by concrete and other barriers that prevent drivers from the West Side Highway from veering on to it. But those same barriers would also make it difficult for bikers and pedestrians to escape if a vehicle were barreling toward them on what is essentially a closed corridor at many points.

    At the multiple vehicle access points, the path becomes exposed and vulnerable. Those tend to be at intersections where there are parking lots, offices and sports facilities on the western side of the bikeway that need to be accessed by cars. One of the busiest access points is at Pier 40 at West Houston Street, which is where, according to the police, Sayfullo Saipov, 29, piloted his rental truck onto the bikeway on Tuesday. There are no bollards to prevent access by a car at that location….

    They apparently didn’t do it because they wanted emergency and Parks Department vehicles to be able to get onto the bike path. One pace that bollards were put – the 2006 accident – it was stil possible for a car to squeeze through.

    There were some bollards a little bit past where the driver of the truck hit the school bus. In fact since he had driven by before, I think he deliberately turned off the bike path. The way to understand his plan is that it was next to drive through city streets to the entrance to the Brooklyn Bridge.

    Now they close the barn door

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

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