Patterico's Pontifications

2/13/2017

Open Thread

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 8:02 am



I got nothing. Trump not tweeting? Possible shakeups at the White House? Oroville looking safe? Typos in government tweets or posters? Foreign governments dumping treasuries? That mean obituary? Slow news day, man. Slow news day.

[Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.]

90 Responses to “Open Thread”

  1. Ding, I guess

    Patterico (115b1f)

  2. No Grammy kvetching either? Or is that expressly forbidden in this thread.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  3. i didn’t watch no grammys

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  4. The three house staffers nabbed for exfiltrating data to an outside.

    narciso (38a5fe)

  5. Me neither, FB statuses are enough. I had a front row seat to much better George Michael and Juan Gabriel tributes by a live band at a wedding last weekend anyway.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  6. National Soros Radio has a sad today because of how capitalism is so poopy and racist

    Cheap Eats, Cheap Labor: The Hidden Human Costs Of Those Lists

    Those all-too-common lists of cheap places to eat are part of a broader restaurant culture that devalues immigrant labor and ignores the consequences, says commentator and restaurateur Diep Tran.

    oh dear

    I have worked hard to combat the underlying racism that drives so much of the “celebration” of “cheap eats,” and I believe that consumers and food media can play a large part in this fight. We need to rethink the very idea behind cheap eats lists. We need to recognize that the narratives we tell ourselves about immigrant resourcefulness and tenacity also makes us willfully blind to the human cost that makes the $3 banh mi possible.

    consciousness raising makes me hungry

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. I never watch awards shows of any kind, but you can kvetch if you want.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  8. That sounds like some OC Weekly level teeth gnashing.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  9. #6 I can’t wait for the follow-up story about how the Dollar General stores are inherently racist, too.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  10. I just saw something on Facebook so stupid I don’t even want to repeat it. You’ll read about it somewhere. Has to do with a very ill-advised selfie taken at “Donald Trump Palm Beach Home.”

    These people are criminally stupid.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  11. Yeah but it’s eight-dimensional chess because he’s really not the right guy

    Patterico (115b1f)

  12. #6
    they told us america has to have this obamacare thing to make health insurance cheaper, so then restaurants say, “hey, let’s make food cheap again,too!” and then the scolding progressives say, “no, that’s racist, you racist islamophobes! and by the way, your cheap restaurants better allow ladyboys into the lady restrooms otherwise you’re transphobic, too!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  13. Using Facebook is a stupid move in and of itself.

    Colonel Haiku (35e836)

  14. Watching Stephen Miller on This Week was rather interesting. He seemed robotic and was obviously reading from a Teleprompter but he would not back down from Clinton/DNC spokesperson Stephanopolis. I’m sure SNL and the usual suspects will have a new target.

    The NYTimes links him in their profile to white supremists which is interesting considering he fought for the right of Larry Elder to speak at his high school.

    Read his piece on working to change the toxic lefty culture at Santa Monica High, it’s pretty good.

    http://archive.frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=17409

    Harkin (311cb7)

  15. If Trump is smart he’ll visit Oroville, commit to helping out but also draw contrast to a governor who recently declared CA in a permanent drought, threatened the president with an army of lawyers over climate policy, neglected flood concerns and maintenance on spillways and squandered billion$ on a high-speed train to nowhere that’s main purpose seems to be channeling much-needed state funds to political cronies.

    Harkin (311cb7)

  16. Just to be clear, tapper was the one that contacted her

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BoSnerdley/status/831153003625402368

    narciso (d1f714)

  17. Dont knock Dollar General, they are damn close to being the FW Woolworth of our times. I’m calling Giovanni Ribisi for the SNL Stephen Miller treatment and some Hamilton flotsam for high school tormentors.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  18. Well their CEO is now in the us senate

    dailycaller.com/2017/02/12/exclusive-exposed-richard-cordray-texts-contain-worrying-cfpb-lobbyist-connections

    narciso (d1f714)

  19. Now that the outdoor ranges are going to be more hospitable, I’m looking to buy a gun which is as about as practical as a dune buggy in the South Pole but that I really, really want. Super want.

    Then I saw one which is totally different, that my daughter could shoot too. She’s not ready for the cap and ball yet. I know I’d be proud to have it, but it really wouldn’t scratch my movie cowboy itch. Do you see the dilemma?

    nk (dbc370)

  20. Here’s a better picture of the cap and ball.

    nk (dbc370)

  21. Sorry, I guess that’s where all the links go.

    nk (dbc370)

  22. are you talking about the nuclear football thingy

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  23. Walter Russell Mead commentary in The American Interest:

    “Already a kind of Trump Derangement Syndrome has set in, interfering with the ability of many people to see what Trump is (and isn’t) accomplishing. Creating TDS is part of Trump’s method: making his opponents underestimate him turned out to be a very useful element in his winning campaign strategy. And stampeding the media into a frenzy of contradictory invective and attack is one of the techniques he uses to weaken his opponents, cloud their minds, and discredit them in the minds of his supporters and, over time, he hopes, some doubters as well.”

    ThOR (c9324e)

  24. I would like to use this open thread to ask;

    Why are the Progressives mad at Trump? Trump isn’t the one who stole an election. The Democrat establishment watched, horrified, as the rank and file Left voted for Bernie Sanders, and in a panic they jiggered the nomination process to hand the baton to Hillary. Their defense? That Sanders was not electable. But, as Trump demonstrated, neither was Hillary.

    Is it possible that all this drama is part of an attempt by the Liberal establishment to distract the rank and file from these facts?

    C. S. P. Schofield (99bd37)

  25. Hillary told the CNN Anderson Cooper fake news propaganda sluts to do everything they could to help Trump get the nomination

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  26. Here’s the “mean obituary”.

    nk (dbc370)

  27. @nk,

    Re, that obituary;

    Wow. Sounds like the man should be interred under a urinal.

    C. S. P. Schofield (99bd37)

  28. Evil, seems a little overwrought imho

    narciso (d1f714)

  29. Well, duh C.S.P. and a lesser duh to HF. The Dems got burnt and the antics of their brigades probably changed Trump from a Souter to a Sessions. The aged Sanders would have America’s do-over button (e.g. a likely die-in-office) and a military officer or younger vet running mate could have gotten him over the top. Much like a prospective Dean-Clark ticket in ’04.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  30. He passed his mean genes on, seems like.

    nk (dbc370)

  31. 26 – “Hillary told the CNN Anderson Cooper fake news propaganda sluts to do everything they could to help Trump get the nomination.”

    Considering how many lefty commenters were celebrating the Trump nomination as a slam-dunk Hillary win, this is not far-fetched.

    Harkin (311cb7)

  32. “Why are the Progressives mad at Trump?”

    C. S. P. Schofield,

    I wouldn’t characterized the prog conditioned response as mad. The bell rings, the dogs drool, emotion plays no part. The progs are back to What’s The Matter With Kansas? again and they are tinkering with their model, trying to solve the concentration/dispersion miscalculation which defeated the Greater Evil. The conditioned response antics are filler while they work out another incorrect solution. The triumph of the Lesser Evil has greatly increased the probability stark reality is going to strip the facade from utopian California and Illinois, revealing the complete lack of substance and structure supporting the facade. Progs are going to be surprised, once again, when the revolting peasants show up in Sacramento and Springfield.

    Rick Ballard (5e8a41)

  33. Muslim-American lady Olympian throws out the bait;obedient media snaps right at it and leaps to desired conclusion.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/reporters-trip-all-over-themselves-botching-an-olympians-story-about-being-detained/article/2614645

    elissa (95d18b)

  34. Meanwhile, in Pakistan, the high court has banned Valentine’s Day!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  35. NK,

    If you are interested in black powder guns–Check your local laws on Black Powder possesion… It has been many decades since I have shot BP pistols and it appears that BP may be difficult to get here in California (there is a BP synthetic now?).

    For example, in California:

    http://legalbeagle.com/6662596-black-powder-gun-laws-california.html

    How Much Black Powder Can You Have?

    California State laws state that having more than a pound of black powder is a felony unless special permission has been given.

    I drifted away from BP and have a lot of fun with 22LR (pistols and rifles). Relatively cheap (especially if 22LR drops from >$0.10 a round to >$0.02 a round if the gun and ammunition run is “over”).

    BP is messy and a bit finicky to shoot (moisture, clogged nipples, rust, etc.).

    Otherwise you can find bigger rounds for $0.20-$0.50 per round for larger stuff (cheap/on sale “goes bang” stuff).

    -BfC

    BfC (5517e8)

  36. How about a Georgetown University professor who thinks slavery is great, as long as it’ Muslims being the slavers.

    http://angry.net/blog2/?p=23568

    Angry Webmaster (c2a001)

  37. “Expediting trips to heaven” for the family pets is hilarious!

    Colonel Haiku (25433a)

  38. I’m in Illinois, Bfc. I have to buy even blackpowder guns through an FFL dealer. They’re treated just like cartridge firearms here. But I can order it online and it will be shipped to my designated dealer who will confirm my ID and run the background check for $35.00 – $50.00.

    And you’re right about black powder. The only place that sells it near me (relatively near) is a Bass Pro Shop 25 miles away, and I think the limit is one pound at a time. It’s considered an explosive, that requires special storage that a lot of gun shops don’t want to deal with; and the limited amount rule is, I suspect, a federal one to keep it out of the hands of bomb-makers. As opposed to the BP substitutes, which are considered propellants, and you can find them at any gun store and many sporting goods stores.

    nk (dbc370)

  39. And the GSG MP40 that I’m looking at as an alternative is .22LR. Check out this video, especially at 5:15 et seq to see why it attracts me, besides it being suitable for a fourteen-year old. 😉

    nk (dbc370)

  40. I used to have a ’51 Navy, and BFC is right, they’re messy. The problem comes in where it’s wise to seal each loaded cylinder with grease to stop the burning powder from your shot setting off other of the cylinders. By the time you shoot off all six shots out got a nasty mess that makes reloading, already a tedious job, unpleasant. Mostly mine made me really appreciate the advent of smokeless powder and the brass cartridge.

    If you’re going to get into black powder, I suggest this as more fun. http://www.gunbroker.com/item/619787953

    Leon (1bee31)

  41. Just got an email from meetup.com…. Regardless of own-goal letter of law issues, looks like they are getting political and misrepresenting the EO in intent and adopting whole cloth hack memes as well.

    Meetup has always served as an organizing platform for a wide range of political views, welcoming everyone from the Howard Deaniacs to the Tea Party. Meetup will always welcome people with different beliefs.

    But after the recent executive order aimed to block people on the
    basis of nationality and religion, a line was crossed. At a time when core democratic ideals feel under attack, we feel a duty to spark more civic participation.

    #accountcancelled

    rtrski (2826b6)

  42. I see they caught President Trump shaking hands with a pussy today.

    mg (31009b)

  43. https://www.wsj.com/articles/syria-detains-opponents-as-it-reasserts-control-1486466727

    At least once a week—and often twice—authorities executed prisoners in the middle of the night in groups of up to 50, according to the report, which Amnesty said was based on dozens of interviews with former detainees, prison guards, judges and lawyers.

    Most of the prisoners were civilians perceived by the Syrian regime as opponents, including protesters, political dissidents, human rights defenders, journalists, doctors and humanitarian aid workers, according to the report. The human rights group said it believes the routine of extrajudicial executions is continuing.

    Note the inclusion of doctors….

    …“Whomever worked in charity or used to distribute bread or was in any organization is wanted. It’s like a fishing expedition and in the end they were fishing us out.”

    Authorities check the phones and social media accounts of every person arrested to look for others who might be wanted for antigovernment activism, according to former residents and activists. The regime has been using the same tactics since early in the uprising to crack down on dissent.

    In December, the United Nations said it was deeply concerned over the fate of hundreds of men reported missing after fleeing into government-controlled areas given the regime’s “terrible record of arbitrary detention, torture and enforced disappearances.” The U.N. said in January it had yet to verify their whereabouts.

    At Syrian peace talks last month, rebel leaders said they had secured a guarantee from Russia that 13,000 female prisoners would be released by the regime as part of an agreement to secure a shaky cease-fire. None have been released yet.

    Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42)

  44. C. S. P. Schofield (99bd37) — 2/13/2017 @ 9:27 am

    Why are the Progressives mad at Trump? Trump isn’t the one who stole an election. The Democrat establishment watched, horrified, as the rank and file Left voted for Bernie Sanders, and in a panic they jiggered the nomination process to hand the baton to Hillary.

    They really jiggled it before it started, and tried to do more than they managed.

    Is it possible that all this drama is part of an attempt by the Liberal establishment to distract the rank and file from these facts?

    I would say the ,ore dishonest wing of the Democratic Party, but these would be some of the people close to Clinton or who supported Clinton. But they are not quite establishment.

    Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42)

  45. Tennessee is going too far with their bill about protesters. This is dangerous. If protesters are blocking traffic, call the police and let them handle it. This bill, with only a vague qualification, is giving people immunity from hitting protesters in the street: http://newschannel9.com/news/local/tn-bill-drivers-who-hit-protesters-immune-to-civil-liability

    Tillman (a95660)

  46. Today was Doonesbury day (DJT and Trudeau). Tomorrow is supposed to be Doomsday for Big 7 “refugees.” In other news, the popcorn industry reports record sales.

    Ed from SFV (3400a5)

  47. Speaking of the “nuclear football” and North Korea’s missile test:

    During the presidential campaign, Donald Trump insisted in multiple interviews that America would be safer if Japan, South Korea and Saudi Arabia all had nuclear weapons(*). So I was disappointed to see that last week’s Japan/American summit ended without The Great Negotiator getting Prime Minister Abe to accept Japan’s responsibility to shelter America under a Japanese nuclear umbrella.

    Yet another example of Trump’s ignorant bluster being followed by abject surrender. Let’s hope, for America’s sake, that he has more luck convincing the Saudis to construct and deploy nuclear weapons.

    (*) Trump later brazenly lied and denied ever saying what he had said on videotape about Japanese nukes.

    Dave (711345)

  48. Extraordinary amount of silliness and hand wringing going on about the military aide photo. You can find photos of Presidential military aides on Getty Images.

    SPQR (a3a747)

  49. Yes its gotten very silly, now Biden actually pointed to the map with thevfootball

    narciso (d1f714)

  50. “Extraordinary amount of silliness and hand wringing going on about the military aide photo. You can find photos of Presidential military aides on Getty Images.”

    – SPQR

    How about getting briefed on a North Korean missile launch in the middle of a party at Mar A Lago, without even leaving the table?

    Leviticus (efada1)

  51. Registration fees for Mar A Lago have apparently doubled since Trump was selected President, by the way. From $100,000 to $200,000.

    I have it on good information that this sort of influence peddling is absolutely impossible to avoid, and should be disregarded.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  52. Those paying 200 grand are pikers compared to the golf community’s big boy courses.

    https://www.bisnow.com/national/news/other/members-only-the-10-most-exclusive-golf-clubs-48494?single-page

    Membership at the Mar-a-Lago Club required a $200,000 initiation fee up until 2012 when it was lowered to $100,000. Sources close to the resort indicated the cut was in response to reduced demand following the Bernie Madoff scandal which affected many affluent Palm Beach residents. The fee was returned to $200,000 in January 2017 following the election of Donald Trump as president with $14,000 annual dues.

    elissa (95d18b)

  53. “The fee was [doubled] to $200,000 in January 2017 following the election of Donald Trump as president ”

    – elissa

    Yeah, that’s what I was getting at.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  54. But you neglected to mention (or perhaps did not know) that the fee had previously been $200,000 before it was lowered and then brought back to $200,000 i.e., doubled. Maybe that’s relevant information or maybe it’s not. Just want to keep the story line honest

    elissa (95d18b)

  55. Whole lot of fake news going around:

    therightscoop.com/kellyanne-conway-mike-flynn-does-enjoy-the-full-confidence-of-trump

    narciso (d1f714)

  56. I understand that Bill Clinton’s speaking fees went through the roof after he was President.
    I also hear that Bill Ayers is going to get a huge book deal.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  57. Oh, come on, Leviticus. Xaviera Hollander charging $1,000 a night. In 1968. That’s $7,121.89 in today’s money!

    nk (dbc370)

  58. I got nothing. Slow news day…

    A grave filled but a SCOTUS seat vacant twelve months. Scalia died a year ago today.

    How soon ‘they’ forget.

    “He’s dead, Jim.” – Dr. Leonard McCoy [DeForest Kelley] almost any episode, ‘Star Trek’ NBC TV, 1966-1969

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  59. By the way, the Supreme Court has ruled that Congress retains the power to compel American citizens to purchase something in the private market even if they choose not to.
    “Uh, Mrs Smith, we don’t care if you don’t play golf, the Supreme Court says you have to!” LOL

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  60. Awkward i think

    ttp://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/13/canada-arrests-asylum-seekers-trump-travel-ban?CMP=twt_gu

    narciso (d1f714)

  61. Sutter County Jail inmates evacuated to Bay Area jail. I think they said 500 but I can’t confirm.

    Shipped to Oakland.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  62. Don’t care if you are an ACLU lawyer, you ARE going to buy Mrs. Smith’s Apple Pies.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  63. How about getting briefed on a North Korean missile launch in the middle of a party at Mar A Lago, without even leaving the table?

    Perhaps there was a message in that. Not everything needs to be dealt with in a bunker. Perhaps if more of this were discussed in the open, we’d get in fewer wars.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  64. I have it on good information that this sort of influence peddling is absolutely impossible to avoid, and should be disregarded.

    This never happened in JFK’s favorite clubs.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  65. I understand that Bill Clinton’s speaking fees went through the roof after he was President.

    As did Barack Obama’s. I suspect though, they would have both been higher if Hillary had won. Shoot, Chelsea would be getting $1 million for a speech to nearly anyone who needed Hillary’s approval on something.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  66. “Uh, Mrs Smith, we don’t care if you don’t play golf, the Supreme Court says you have to!” LOL

    No, Mrs Smith can pay a “non-golfer’s tax” instead.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  67. Shooting some links
    .http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/13/politics/gop-senators-puzder/
    Is this opposition real, and if so, only because of the housemaid?

    Kishnevi (0cb353)

  68. Well the first three serum likely, Scott is the outlier

    narciso (d1f714)

  69. Two hundred grand should be minimum initiation for mom and pop illegals to enter the U.S.A.

    mg (31009b)

  70. Bibi is enroute, Can Trump hire him?

    mg (31009b)

  71. the nasty lobsterpot bimbo who’s never had a non-government job her whole pitiful life says she has to watch Oprah a few more times to figure out whether she can vote for Mr. Pudzer, a distinguished businessman

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  72. Two hundred grand should be minimum initiation for mom and pop illegals to enter the U.S.A.

    It’s $1 million, under the law, mg. But it can be $500,000 if they move to a “High Unemployment” or “Rural Area”.

    nk (dbc370)

  73. Really, nk? Somebody owes us some serious dough.

    mg (31009b)

  74. Aspen qualifies as a rural area. Prince Bandar can form a charter company and lease his private jet to himself, and get a green card for himself, his spouse and minor children, but I’m sure he already knows that.

    nk (dbc370)

  75. Your flaming immigration laws are one big flaming joke.

    nk (dbc370)

  76. How has everyones aspen?

    mg (31009b)

  77. Here’s today’s feel-good story:

    “Wife, stepson charged in murder of KKK imperial wizard”

    Three fewer Trump voters in Missouri.

    Dave (711345)

  78. #84 That’s right, Dave, you alleged “conservative,” keep playing ‘dat race card.

    The Democrat party is the historical home of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, the KKK, Japanese Internment Camps, Senator Robert Byrd, and the like, but you keep pimpin’ yo’ false histery, ya’ angry jackazz. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  79. While were chasing fake news about general flynn

    http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/jw-v-dhs-jeh-johnson-email-production-00967-pg-107-110

    What’s the “fake news about general flynn”??

    Patterico (115b1f)

  80. You go, Dave! You teh Man!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  81. NK,

    Highly suggest the first gun be a single shot bolt action 22LR rifle. As kids, that was the most popular of the stuff we should shoot.

    Also, single shots really makes the shooter think about each shot.

    I have taken groups of kids shooting with Ruger 10/22s and others (and friends with M1’s and others)–It is really difficult to get kids (and even adults) to pay attention to sight picture/holding/pulling the trigger when there are 9-10 more (this is California) rounds in the magazine.

    I found black powder (when a I was a kid) to require a bit too much fiddling (and sometimes strength) to load. And if you have a miss-fire (or somebody forgets to put power in first)–Then you are playing around to get the round out (like removing the nipple and pouring enough BP in the chamber behind the round to get enough pressure to expel the lead).

    -Bill

    BfC (5517e8)

  82. @65– el tigre: The actual location of the landing was the Santa Rita county (Alameda) jail in Pleasanton; Oakland is the county seat and sports only a smaller jail facility… The Alameda County SO said their jail was built for 5000, but population now only about 2500. The Sheriff said “… come on down…!” when the call went out. The unofficial number of transferred “guests” was just short of 600.

    Evacuation orders can stir up all kinds of logistic problems that we don’t think about… unti it happens.

    Gramps (942f7b)

  83. I didn’t put anythiing in this thread earlier.

    http://www.lovethispic.com/image/235796/groundhog-phil-lied

    Sammy Finkelman (6f9f42)


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