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8/29/2016

Yet Another Weiner Sexting Scandal

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:07 am

Anthony Weiner has deleted his Twitter account amid a third sexting scandal. (Is it really a scandal if it’s this predictable?) This one features a shot of his crotch as he lies in bed next to his son. He’s a charmer.

This is baby-sitting — Anthony Weiner-style.

While his wife, Huma Abedin, travels the country campaigning for Hillary Clinton, the disgraced ex-congressman has been sexting with a busty brunette out West — and even sent her a lurid crotch shot with his toddler son in the picture, The Post has learned.

The stay-at-home cad shot the revealing photo while discussing massage parlors “near my old apartment” shortly after 3 a.m. on July 31, 2015, a screenshot of the exchange shows.

Weiner was clearly aroused by his conversation with the 40-something divorcee when he abruptly changed the subject.

“Someone just climbed into my bed,” Weiner wrote.

“Really?” she responded.

Weiner then hit “Send” on the cringe-inducing image, which shows a bulge in his white, Jockey-brand boxer briefs and his son cuddled up to his left, wrapped in a light-green blanket.

“You do realize you can see you[r] Weiner in that pic??” the woman wrote.

If daleyrocks still posted here, I’d probably post a picture or two of the woman on the receiving end of these missives, for Importang Journomalistic Purposes. But he’s not, so I won’t. Click over to the Post story (second link above) if that sort of thing interests you.

I generally don’t like to speculate about the marriages of people in public life. It just seems that there could be so much we don’t know. But here, it seems awfully hard to resist the obvious conclusion: Huma is staying married to this incorrigibly dishonest sex fiend because she thinks it will benefit her politically.

Whatever does Hillary see in her?

UPDATE: Looks like more than a few of you missed my droll comparison of Hillary and Huma, each standing by her horndog man for political reasons. In any event, joke’s on me: word is Huma has announced that she and Weiner are separating.

224 Responses to “Yet Another Weiner Sexting Scandal”

  1. 😉

    Patterico (bcf524)

  2. Whatever does Hillary see in her?

    Birds of a feather. All they care about is Hillary’s career. They “love the masses” but are hopeless when it comes to actual relationships.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  3. “Whatever does Hillary see in her?”

    She feels her pain.

    Rick Ballard (ce29ad)

  4. i miss Mr. daleyrocks he’s a good pickle

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  5. there’s no reason for them not to get divorced though

    she just doesn’t wanna pay a nanny

    she’s kind of a cheap-ass i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  6. It was Bill Clinton who arranged the marriage (probably to keep her loyal)

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/96516/abedinweiner-marriage-made-hillary-clinton-and-jamie-glazov

    Spencer: Jamie, Islamic law prohibits a Muslim woman from marrying a non-Muslim man…. Consequently, when a non-Muslim man begins a relationship with an observant Muslim woman, he is usually pressured to convert to Islam, and such conversion is made a condition of the marriage. Of course, laws are often honored in the breach, and this is not always true. So while we know that Huma Abedin’s parents were devout and observant Muslims — indeed, her father was an imam — we don’t know what exactly is going on with her marriage to Anthony Weiner…

    …In Islamic law, a Muslim must officiate a marriage ceremony; hence if Bill Clinton was the only one officiating, the marriage was not valid according to Islamic law. Huma Abedin would undoubtedly have known that. Thus, if no Muslim was officiating along with Clinton, Weiner would not have had to convert to Islam, as the whole thing was a charade from the outset, apparently entered into with the full awareness of all parties concerned.

    FP: This all seems very strange. What do you personally think is going on?

    Spencer: Either Weiner converted to Islam to marry Abedin, and a Muslim was officiating at the ceremony along with Clinton, or the marriage is a sham and Abedin, at very least, is fully aware of that — and probably the others are also. I don’t see any other possibilities.

    FP: Sorry, I am a bit confused about the Bill Clinton angle. Isn’t this a bit of a bizarre person to ask to officiate your wedding? One would think that in getting married, you have things like faithfulness and loyalty on your mind, no?

    Spencer: Yes, Bill Clinton is a strange choice, indeed — unless the whole point of the union had to do more with the Clinton connection than with faithfulness and loyalty.

    Well, the union obviously is real, since they have a child together. It is just that it is not consistent with the purported religious beliefs of Huma Abedin’s family.

    And nobody asks a question: How is this not a problem?

    I suppose it is the Clinton exception to all laws, secular and religious.

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  7. Bill Clinton has no authority to perform marriages – the legal marriage must have been done privately and was a civil marriage by a judge.

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  8. How do you know Clinton has no authority to perform a marriage?

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  9. Weiner is no more dishonest than Huma.

    Huma, likely, is much more dishonest and on a more serious level, e.g. mishandling and potentially bartering in State secrets. Weiner’s transgressions are of a minor nature. Huma’s likely rise to the level of crimes or complicity in crimes against the USA.

    Surely you jest with your question: What does Hillary see in her?

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  10. Another work product of Tumescent Tony. I’m wondering if this instance could be considered child abuse? “R” after his name, you bet! Not only a “D” after his name, but connected to the Clintons by way of Huma? What sexting?

    Bill H (971e5f)

  11. New York values.

    nk (dbc370)

  12. If New York had any values they would find a new home for that child.

    mg (31009b)

  13. Well, the union obviously is real, since they have a child together. It is just that it is not consistent with the purported religious beliefs of Huma Abedin’s family.

    That doesn’t mean a whole lot, Sammy. There are gays of both genders who have children with their “partners” for the sole purpose of keeping rumors at bay. I’m willing to bet Huma is one of them.

    Bill H (971e5f)

  14. Robert Spencer is as much an authority on Islam as Al Sharpton is an authority on Judaism. I know for a fact that Muslim women marry non-Muslim men with neither one converting.

    Who cares if their marriage is not recognized by Sharia? 99% of marriages in the United States are not recognized by Sharia.

    nk (dbc370)

  15. Denials coming: Just another sleazy attempt by the GOP to besmirch a great warrior for the Democrat Party — Carlos Danger — who has selflessly worked for Hillary’s ascension.

    The kid is just an actor photo shopped into the picture, which is a hijacked ad Carlos made for Fruit of the Loom.

    The busty babe is nice, huh? Who can blame Carlos?

    Coming soon, special photo ops by invitation of both Hillary and Huma with Carols and friend setting up for a menage of 4 teeing off in a Motel 6 Presidential Suite.

    BTW… Vote for Hillary!

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  16. certainly momma abedin wouldn’t approve as a good salami, it diesnt strike you as curious they would release this squirrel.

    There are exceptions, norquist married a Syrian woman.

    narciso (732bc0)

  17. I know for a fact that Muslim women marry non-Muslim men with neither one converting.

    Yes, but do you know for a fact that lesbian moslem women marry bisexual Jewish-American hipsters? Ah-ha. Gotcha.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  18. “After long and painful consideration and work on my marriage, I have made the decision to separate from my husband,” Abedin said in a statement.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  19. Done, http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/29/huma-abedin-and-anthony-weiner-are-getting-divorced/

    Now, how many secrets can Tony spill for the right # of central and eastern european honeys courtesy of…

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  20. 17. I know for a fact that Muslim women marry non-Muslim men with neither one converting.

    In America anybody can marry anybody nowadays. Males and males, females and females, pretty soon I bet you’ll be able to marry your dog. The whole idea is to diminish the religious covenant of marriage and turn it into less than a contract. I say “less than” because in most states it’s easier to get a divorce than to dissolve a partnership agreement over a coffee shop.

    Let’s see them move to the Syria and pull that crap. As they say “heads will roll”.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  21. Rev. Hoagie® (785e38) — 8/29/2016 @ 7:44 am

    How do you know Clinton has no authority to perform a marriage?

    he’s not a judge, a local official, or a cleric.

    There is a way a marriage can be done in New York State without a judge, a local official, or a cleric, but in this version, Bill Clinton would have played no legal role. Clinton’s participation would have been entirely for show. Unless Bill Clinton bacame an ordained minister or something.

    http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2011/06/by-what-authority-did-bill-clinton.html

    This says that according to Article 3, Section 11 of the New York Domestic Relations Law.

    http://law.justia.com/codes/new-york/2010/dom/article-3/11/ (was this provision added in 2010?)

    People can get married by use of a written contract of marriage signed by both parties and at least two witnesses, all of whom live in this state, when that signed contract is taken to a judge of a court of record in the same manner that conveyances of real estate are.

    I don’t think Anthony Weiner, Huma Abedin or Bill Clinton have ever explained the legal niceties.

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  22. “Huma, honey,” Hillary tells her young charge, “After that slut under his desk, I told Bill ‘one more blow job that hits the fan, and I’ll have your balls in a jar on my desk!’. And you know what honey,” Hillary said giving a maternal hug to Huma, “he never has again humiliated me in public. Now where Anthony is concerned, my question to you would be would a Mason Jar be OK, or do you want something more elegant?”

    “Oh, Hillary,” Huma said sobbing softly on her shoulder.

    “Come, come, sweety” Hillary said, taking her hand and leading to the darkened bedroom, “let Hillary make it all better.”

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  23. Goggles do nothing, puts.So thus is one way of getting the Emma out if the way.

    narciso (732bc0)

  24. Poor kid.

    mg (31009b)

  25. nk (dbc370) — 8/29/2016 @ 8:13 am

    Robert Spencer is as much an authority on Islam as Al Sharpton is an authority on Judaism. I know for a fact that Muslim women marry non-Muslim men with neither one converting.

    Sure, they can ignore Islamic law, but I think Rbert Spencer is talking about marriages being recognized by Islam, and Huma Abedin’s parents were professional Moslems in Saudi Arabia. Of course some of what Robert Spencer said was nonsense. I think it’s idiotic tosay that Anthony Weiner must have converted to Islam, even though the conversion might be almost pro forma.

    Hillary Clinton even went, earlier that year, to a girl’s school (or college or university – the Dar al-Hekma college for women) in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia where Huma Abedin’s mother Saleha is vice president and an associate professor of sociology, where she gave a speech that had nothing in it critical of Saudi Arabia, and in fact praised it.

    http://www.state.gov/secretary/20092013clinton/rm/2010/02/136789.htm

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  26. 14. Ok, now you are just a bald-faced liar.

    Beside being a collaborator:

    Mrs. Clinton’s problem—as we now know from this week’s release of emails from Huma Abedin’s private Clinton-server account—was that there was no divide between public and private. Mrs. Clinton’s State Department and her family foundation were one seamless entity—employing the same people, comparing schedules, mixing foundation donors with State supplicants. This is why she maintained a secret server, and why she deleted 15,000 emails that should have been turned over to the government.

    Most of the focus on this week’s Abedin emails has centered on the disturbing examples of Clinton Foundation executive Doug Band negotiating State favors for foundation donors. But equally instructive in the 725 pages released by Judicial Watch is the frequency and banality of most of the email interaction. Mr. Band asks if Hillary’s doing this conference, or having that meeting, and when she’s going to Brazil. Ms. Abedin responds that she’s working on it, or will get this or that answer. These aren’t the emails of mere casual acquaintances; they don’t even bother with salutations or signoffs. These are the emails of two people engaged in the same purpose—serving the State-Clinton Foundation nexus.

    The other undernoted but important revelation is that the media has been looking in the wrong place. The focus is on Mrs. Clinton’s missing emails, and no doubt those 15,000 FBI-recovered texts contain nuggets. Then again, Mrs. Clinton was a busy woman, and most of the details of her daily State/foundation life would have been handled by trusted aides. This is why they, too, had private email. Top marks to Judicial Watch for pursuing Ms. Abedin’s file from the start. A new urgency needs to go into seeing similar emails of former Clinton Chief of Staff Cheryl Mills.

    Mostly, we learned this week that Mrs. Clinton’s foundation issue goes far beyond the “appearance” of a conflict of interest. This is straight-up pay to play. When Mr. Band sends an email demanding a Hillary meeting with the crown prince of Bahrain and notes that he’s a “good friend of ours,” what Mr. Band means is that the crown prince had contributed millions to a Clinton Global Initiative scholarship program, and therefore has bought face time. It doesn’t get more clear-cut, folks.

    DNF (755a85)

  27. Notice Huma said “separate” not divorce. We shall see if she divorces or not. Hillary will advise her on how to handle cheating husbands!

    In my analysis (as an internet commenter lol) Human is just a follower. She latched onto Hillary and is quite happy smoothing the way for her and not taking any risks on her own. I’m sure marrying Carlos Danger is part of that too. She wanted a kid, she needed a respectable marriage, so she took what came along. I don’t fault her for that–everybody has different strengths. I really think the Clintons and this ass of a husband take advantage of that naivete and find it charming even.

    Patricia (5fc097)

  28. 18. 19. They are separating not getting divorced.

    There was probably one newspaper story too many, and so Hillary Clinton told her they needed to announce a separation.

    New York Times storyz;

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/30/nyregion/anthony-weiner-sexting-huma-abedin.html

    Anthony Weiner has deleted his Twitter account.

    Donald Trump’s take on this: (don’t expect it to make too much sense)

    “Huma is making a very wise decision. I know Anthony Weiner well, and she will be far better off without him. I only worry for the country in that Hillary Clinton was careless and negligent in allowing Weiner to have such close proximity to highly classified information. Who knows what he learned and who he told? It’s just another example of Hillary Clinton’s bad judgment. It is possible that our country and its security have been greatly compromised by this.”

    This is a completely crazy statement. It’s Huma’s loyalty you might have to worry about, because it is probably to Hillary and Bill and not to the country, and if Anthony Weiner talked, he might have something to say, but not not information useful to enemies of the United States but about Bill or Hillary Clinton, which could be useful to Trump – but they’ll keep him well taken care of.

    The woman Anthony Weiner had his latest exchange with, is, according to the New York Post, a “self-avowed supporter of Donald Trump and the National Rifle Association who’s used Twitter to bash both President Obama and Clinton.”

    Weiner told the New York Post that they have been friends for some time and:

    “She has asked me not to comment except to say that our conversations were private, often included pictures of her nieces and nephews and my son and were always appropriate.”

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  29. Well he was on the intelligence committee ans was as such privy to some highly classified info. She’s had her problems with info security notably in India.

    narciso (732bc0)

  30. The real question is: how can Huma Abedin retain a security clearance whilst married to this cretin?

    The Dana asking the obvious question (f6a568)

  31. 18. 19. They are separating not getting divorced.

    Is it too early to call this a banana split?

    Chuck Bartowski (8489f0)

  32. When will the Honorable Mr Weiner announce that he is entering rehab?

    The Dana asking another obvious question (f6a568)

  33. Would public non-interference and private assistance to his 2017 mayoral run be enough of an apple for Weiner’s help to the Trump campaign? Maybe get Donovan into the a part of the DOJ and other possible contenders in as token Dem appointees.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  34. I wonder how much Trump donated to Weiner’s campaigns over the years.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  35. i wonder how much harvardtrash ted’s grimacing sacky wife’s employers donated all up in the weiner

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  36. 29. But Donald Trump seems to be talking about what Anthony Weiner might learn now from Huma Abedin.

    So he expects, or assumes for purposes of argument, that Hillary Clinton could tell classified information to Huma Abedin, who would then tell it to Anthony Weiner, who would then reveal it in public?? And that’s what we’ve got to worry about? Now I could understand Hillary Clinton being worried about Anthony Weiner telling political secrets, even travel or appointment secrets or news about debate preparations, but Donald Trump is the last person to be concerned about that.

    I don’t think Anthny wener ever was on the Intelligence Committee. He was on Energy and Commerce and on the Judiciary Commitee (although he was not a lawyer) He was on the Judiciary subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism and Homeland security as well as Immigration, Citizenship, Border Security and International Law, and had previously been on Courts, the Internet and Intellectual Property. I only have information up to the 111th Congress (2009-2010)

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  37. huma is known to leave burn stuff lying about in cars and what have you

    even corrupt fbi poofterboy james comey said these people were extraordinarily careless with information

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  38. R.I.P. the marriage of Anthony Weiner and Huma Abedin
    Consolation services for the bride — after an appropriate period of mourning — will begin at my place.

    Icy (ad54a0)

  39. Short Twitter fight last month between Donald J. Trump Jr (the younger one) and Anthony Weiner, late July, 2016:
    When Anthony Weiner gave an interview on the floor of the Democratic Convention in Philadelphia, commenting on the possibility of Donald J. Trump Jr. running for mayor of New York City, he said he would “come out of retirement just to beat him like a rented mule.”

    “Too soon Anthony!!! You probably shouldn’t be talking about beating anything ever again. Go back to your cave. https://t.co/Mingecu6o9— Donald Trump Jr. (@DonaldJTrumpJr) July 26, 2016 ”

    “Is there a word for the baby of a trust fund baby?— (((Anthony Weiner))) (@anthonyweiner) July 26, 2016 ”

    Donald Trump’s been talking about Anthony Weiner being a security risk for a while (because if you don’t think about it too much, it seems to make sense)

    http://forward.com/the-assimilator/346282/did-anthony-weiner-just-get-tweet-smacked-by-donald-trump-jr/

    The former Congressman from Queens has been making the rounds at late-night talk shows lately, appearing on Wednesday night’s Bill Maher, where he responded to Donald Trump’s comments from earlier in the day about the danger of Huma Abedin — Weiner’s wife and long-time Hillary Clinton aide — sharing intelligence secrets with him at home.

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  40. Bill Clinton has no authority to perform marriages – the legal marriage must have been done privately and was a civil marriage by a judge.
    Sammy Finkelman (067111) —8/29/2016 @ 7:29 am

    — Ah, Teh Finkleman; always good for a titter in the A.M.

    Icy (ad54a0)

  41. Squirrel.

    Baggage dump, Labor Day week. Clear the decks before the Final Push to the general.

    Maude! Stop stalling! Nobody cares about Liz and Dick or your new pantsuit. You burned the meatloaf!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  42. happyfeet (28a91b) — 8/29/2016 @ 10:31 am

    huma is known to leave burn stuff lying about in cars and what have you

    What? The schedule?

    I just read that John Poindexter used to carry around a probably unsecured laptop, except that at that time there was no Internet.

    It was an isolated machine, used even by United States special-operations forces, and was said to come with red dot placed on the case, telling the possesser where to shoot it in case it was in danger of being captured.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/27/technology/john-ellenby-visionary-who-helped-create-early-laptop-dies-at-75.html

    “The Grid Compass was the first successful clamshell laptop computer,” said Marc Weber, a historian at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View.

    It went on to become a valuable tool for big corporations, government spies, White House and Pentagon officials, and even astronauts, surviving the midair explosion of the space shuttle Challenger in which seven people died.

    The Compass came with advanced, and expensive, data storage capacity called bubble memory and was accordingly pricey, originally selling for $8,150 ($20,325 today). As a result, it found an enthusiastic market not with consumers but rather in Washington…

    ….Another user was Vice Adm. John Poindexter, President Ronald Reagan’s national security adviser in the mid-1980s. Admiral Poindexter, a computer hobbyist, would take the laptop with him when Mr. Reagan traveled.

    He would also spend his free time using the Compass to reprogram the IBM electronic mail system that the White House employed, according to James Opfer, who was director of the White House Communications Agency then and who arranged the first White House purchase of the machines, for $2 million.

    Mr. Opfer said in an interview that he was “90 percent certain” that for a time, a Compass accompanied the president’s ever-present “nuclear football” — the device, carried by a military aide, that makes it possible to launch nuclear weapons. “It was quite heavy,” he recalled.

    Oliver North didn’t know how to really delete e-mail so it was recovered and printed out for the Tower Commission.

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  43. NYC Child Services tells DailyMail.com that they are looking into the incident

    lol the blasio trash what work for nyc never waste an opportunity to look as ridiculous and fascist as possible

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  44. Bill Clinton has no authority to perform marriages – the legal marriage must have been done privately and was a civil marriage by a judge.

    I don’t think they could have used a document signed by both of them, as “Dorf on Law” says, because I don’t think Huma Abedin would have been a resident of the state of New York at that time.

    She worked out of Washington, D.C., and would ahve no reason to maintain a separate residence in New York.

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  45. I don’t think anything is really going to change in the relationship between Anthony Weiner and Huma Abedin. Anthony Weiner is still going to take care of the toddler most of the time. Huma Abedin is still going to be travelling with Hillary. Maybe she’ll get – or be provided with – or allowed to use as a guest – some other place to sleep when she’s in New York. And some other place maybe to get mail. If she hasn’t already.

    The most important change may be on the bank accounts, health proxy, power of attorney, tax returns, etc.

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  46. And some other place maybe to get mail. If she hasn’t already.

    Maybe a place with its own email server.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  47. Best headline so far:

    HUMA CUTS WEINER OFF

    http://dailycaller.com/

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  48. “Burn stuff” is stuff that is only supposed to be disposed of by burning, not necessarily anything in a “burn bag” that is ready to be burned. In fact, Huma Abedin did not want it burned. She e-mailed Lauren C. Jiloty, a personal assitant to Hillary Clinton, on July 20 2009, to take material from the pocket in front of her seat in her car, and put it in the trunk, because an Ambassador (of a foreign country) was going to be riding with her on the next drive.

    This “burn material” was probably stuff she needed for use on her trip to India. So long as it was in her locked car, it was considered safe, but if someone who was not supposed to see it could at least theoretically, just grab it, or maybe steal it without anybody noticing, it had to be locked away.

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  49. This could easily have become a movie “NOT WITHOUT MY SON”

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  50. Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/29/2016 @ 11:07 am

    Maybe a place with its own email server.

    That she’s got already. You think clintonemail.com, possibly operating another name, is out of business?

    Most of the e-mail recently recovered came from Huma Abedin’s and other’s account at clintonemail.com, which her or Hillary’s lawyers were afraid to wipe. She also had a state.gov account – it was Hllary who only had private e-mail.

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  51. Isn’t it amazing how Andrew Breitbart faked all of those accounts of Weiner’s sexting several years ago. And now that Breitbart is deceased, it turns out that Weiner has coincidentally started sexting women not named Huma!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  52. > Huma is staying married to this incorrigibly dishonest sex fiend because she thinks it will benefit her politically.

    That’s an awfully lot to infer, IMO. She may be staying with him because she has faith that somehow he can be fixed. She may be staying with him because she’s invested a lot in the relationship and is loath to let the sunk cost go. She may be staying with him because she has some reservations about divorce.

    Interpersonal relationships, and marriages, can be d****d hard, and the *presumption* that it’s all about politics strikes me as … uncharitable.

    aphrael (e0cdc9)

  53. She ain’t stayin’ with that punk no more.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  54. I wonder if old Neal still thinks a conspiracy got Weiner. That was never necessary, he was always a trainwreck of skeev waiting to happen. Reckless, too. The objects of his attentions were always ready to rat him out, too.

    SarahW (3164f0)

  55. Carlos Dangler

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  56. I believe the Clintons demanded their staff tell them the passwords of all their e-mail accounts anywhere.

    What’s this here?

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/26/shocking-deposition-hillary-clueless-on-using-computer-emails/

    Or maybe she just pretended to be clueless, or her people pretended she was.

    At the beginning, in January 2009, Cheryl Mills claimed that Hillary Clinton did not know how to send e-mails except with a Blackberry.

    When Lewis Alan Lukens, the State Department Foreign Service officer in charge of logistics and management support, said it was no big deal to bring her up to speed and offered to help train Hillary Clinton how to use e-mail from a desktop, her aides said that was no good.

    Lukens agreed she could use the Blackberry while in the State Department when Cheryl Mills and Huma Abedin assured him she only wanted to use it to communicate with friends and family

    Athough a room “adjacent” to her secure office was eventually set up to allow her to look at her unsecured Blackberry emails, she would still go into a hallway to use her blackberry. This was almost certainly against State Department rules. The office for the secretary of state is on the seventh floor of the State Department building in Washington, D.C., which is a SCIF, or Secure Compartmentalized Information Facility. Wireless communications are prohibited, and all emails must be transmitted and received through the State Department’s secure “OpenNet” email system.

    Lukens offered to let her use a special computer in her office, completely disconnected from the “OpenNet” email system, but Hillary’s aides claimed she only knew how to use a Blackberry. (the difference of course being, she owned the Blackberry, and a Blackberry could not be cracked.)

    A desktop computer for private e-mail was eventually set up for her in a separate room, adjacent to her suite, if I understand this right, but she never used it, and it did not have a password.

    Sammy Finkelman (067111)

  57. Susan” “Huma” by the Suckinghams

    Huma, looks like there’s a rumor
    I’m losin’ your hand (losin’ your hand)
    And not to a man

    Huma, I think it’s some kind of a tumor
    I ask myself why, I ain’t like other guys

    No other girl could ever take the place of you
    Though I’m surfin’ teh net
    I haven’t found a swarthy fox yet
    Girl I’ll always love you

    Love love love love…
    I love you, yes I do, I do (2x)

    Huma I love you

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  58. Mrs. Weiner Pulls Out

    mg (31009b)

  59. Huma cuts off Weiner, now he’s in Ghotbzadeh mode… (Cue the ululating!)

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  60. Weiner to Huma, “Don’t be a Brat!”

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  61. Crude is flowing in the streets, as images from Qayyarah show, and people are worried about what will happen if someone decides to set the crude on fire.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  62. Another opening for Bill

    mg (31009b)

  63. Poor kid. He’s going to make some therapists a little wealthier in about a decade.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  64. 64 You mean Bill?

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  65. happyfeet- has to be propaganda as no birds were shown covered in oil.

    mg (31009b)

  66. “In The Jailhouse Doghouse Now” by Teh Bottom Feeder Boys

    I knew a guy named Danglin’ Tony
    He used to perv and stroke teh baloney
    He thought he was the smartest guy around
    Well I found out this Monday
    That Tony got tossed on Sunday
    She’s got him in the doghouse way downtown

    He’s in the doghouse now
    He’s in the doghouse now
    Well I told him more than once
    To stop surfin’ webs trollin’ for _____
    He’s in the doghouse now

    Ah di o-dalee eehee dee-o ti
    Ah di o-dalee ee oh dee-o ti
    Yodelayee-hee
    Yodelayee-hee
    Yodelay-eeee

    Tony liked to play that pocket poker
    No Pinochle, whist or euchre
    But skeevin’ skanks
    Was his favorite game
    But he got caught red-handed
    His goose is cooked, that eagle landed
    The wife done said “that’s it, you’re toast

    He’s in the doghouse now
    He’s in the doghouse now
    Well I told him more than once
    To stop surfin’ webs trollin’ for ______
    He’s in the doghouse now

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  67. Bill Clinton to Anthony Weiner

    “Anthony, why’d you let yourself get outed like that? You know everything Hillary has ever done or said is being looked at closer than an IRS colonoscopy!

    Shoulda called me, Bro. I know this game. Plausible deniability… that’s the whole key!

    But don’t you worry, you’re probably better off with out the little Muslim ice berg. And don’t worry about the kid… Huma won’t get him, not all of him. I’ve got so much dirt on her and Hillary.. wink..wink… I could bury them both.

    Now come on, let’s go getta cold one. Think of the fun we can have on Lolita Island, Bro. You’re free — Mazletov!!

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  68. “Keep you zipper up and your wick dry”

    Neo (318708)

  69. Interpersonal relationships, and marriages, can be d****d hard, and the *presumption* that it’s all about politics strikes me as … uncharitable.

    You’re kidding, right aphrael? If it was anybody but power-mad left wing weirdo’s you may be right but with these two I doubt it. She, like Hillary! wouldn’t let him go if she caught him screwin’ Miss Piggy if it was to her political advantage. Obviously, the “advisor” decided cutting his perverted ass lose was the politically expedient thing to do.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  70. Anyone ever asked Trump why he liked Anthony Weiner so much?

    Probably the New York values as mentioned above. Maybe they shared a respect for Hillary. I guess they are pretty similar when it comes to the role of women in their lives.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  71. 71 yawn… ain’t gonna get no traction

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  72. #23 Is that even English?

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  73. Crude is flowing in the streets, as images from Qayyarah show, and people are worried about what will happen if someone decides to set the crude on fire.

    So kill them all.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  74. This seems like the beard was more of a problem than no beard.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  75. OT: “Obama will bypass Senate, ratify Paris climate accord himself during trip to China: report”

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/29/obama-will-bypass-senate-ratify-paris-climate-acco/

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  76. I’m old enough to remember when Senator Barack believed the President was stepping on the toes of the Senate!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  77. Crude is flowin’ ’round here, too!

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  78. Well frog man Nader was the congressman for lower Manhattan, wiener was for the upper east side.

    narciso (732bc0)

  79. 78 badda boom!

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  80. Re the sapohic images, want do not.

    The Emma is the journal human edited, funded by an Ac moneyman

    narciso (732bc0)

  81. Actually, this was all set up by Mrs Clinton and her campaign. The sexting ‘scandal’ will draw all of the attention away from the document dump of Mrs Clinton’s hidden e-mails by WikiLeaks.

    The conspiracy theorist Dana (f6a568)

  82. If Huma subscribes to the Muslim cultural values inherent in the Muslim Brotherhood, shouldn’t she defer to her husband’s extra-cirricular pursuits?
    A woman separating from her husband due to infidelity is a Western thing.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  83. 82 I don’t think voters or The Donald will take the bait.

    For some reason, which I don’t quite understand, even the liberals on the fence are finding the Pay for Play thing beyond the pale. I don’t quite get how they’ve tolerated all the obvious lying and obfuscation by Clinton, seemingly willing to let the “email” thing go — that is until this.

    I suppose I don’t understand “liberal values” very well. They are frequently anti-common sense.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  84. 71 yawn… ain’t gonna get no traction

    PTS

    LOL. You’re on patrol for the Trump Defense Force all day long here, I see. You reply simply to say you won’t reply, which means you realize this isn’t something you can defend.

    Trump is sleazier than Weiner ever tried to be. Those sneering at Weiner over this but voting Trump are simply partisan loyalists with no actual standards for a man’s conduct. And Trump donated to Weiner and loved the guy, only flip flopping because that’s what Trump does.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  85. yes yes Mr. mg that site is pretty sketchy

    it does actually have the oil price on it though, which google finance can’t seem to manage

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  86. I don’t quite get how they’ve tolerated all the obvious lying and obfuscation by Clinton, seemingly willing to let the “email” thing go

    The main reason is that Hillary is running against the worst US Presidential candidate in modern history, and possibly all of American history.

    It’s not like Hillary’s voters actually like her. They don’t. They just know Hillary is the only way to stop Trump, and that makes voting for Hillary the right call, at least for the majority of Americans. Hillary’s chances of winning are 95% despite her being absolutely covered in scandal. The reason is Trump.

    Trump will be blamed for the disaster coming for the GOP in a few months. The loss of so many state races, congressional races, the Senate seats, the Supreme Court. And he is ok with that. At the end of the day, Trump and those who supported him in the primary are well pleased to see the carnage.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  87. 79. narciso (732bc0) — 8/29/2016 @ 1:31 pm

    Well frog man Nader was the congressman for lower Manhattan, wiener was for the upper east side.

    Wrong on both counts.

    Nadler was and is the Congressman for a disrict created in 1992 which merged a thin strip running through Brooklyn from Brooklyn Heights to Coney Island with the west side and upper west side of Manhattan. About 60% of the population of the district is in Brooklyn, but all the politics is in Manhattan.

    In the 1980s there were two more or less Jewish, or white, districts in Brooklyn that ran more or less north-south. The western, and somewhat thinner one, was held by Stephen Solarz, who had been elected in 1974. He had a close call in 1984 getting only in the low 60s in the general election instead of the usual 82% After that he tried to be more anti-Communist in foreign policy but his idea of anti-Communism was supporting the allies of Pol Pot. He got redistricted in 1992 and then decided to run in the primary for the newly created real gerrymander 12th district which was a multi-borough district that had a majority of Hispanic voters. He noted that he was a Sephardic Jew but that didn’t help him. Then – Ted Weiss suddenly died. His successor was picked by the Democratic district leaders, but that was from the old district, all in Manhattan. There was an election for the old district and the new district I think at the same time.

    Anyway Jerrold Nadler became the incumbent and he’s been there a quarter of a century almost. Nadler had grown up in Bensonhurst but he lived in Manhattan.

    The eastern somewhat Jewish district in Brooklyn was represented by Charles Schumer. After Schumer was elected to the Senate in 1998, his political aide Anthony Weiner succeeed him. After the 2000 Census, the district expanded or moved into Queens, and Weiner followed. It was about maybe 2/3 in Queens. It got eliminated after a Republican, Bob Turner, won the special election to succeed Anthony Weiner in 2011. Turner ran for the U.S. Senate in 2012, but had no help and lost the primary.

    After he was disgraced, Anthony Weiner with Huma Abedin moved to Manhattan, with the help of Bill Clinton, I think in the same bulilding where Chelsea Clinton lived.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  88. eight years ago, if you recall the media went into their two minute hate routine,

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-and-the-facts-1472492756?mod=djemBestOfTheWeb

    narciso (732bc0)

  89. don’t forget how good Mr. Trump is and how sucky the economy is

    non-durable consumer goods sales fell in July

    that is no good in the stinkypig hood

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  90. robert merry, makes that point more elegantly, pikachu,

    narciso (732bc0)

  91. well it was than likely his district, so there is little one could do, I lived in duffus debbie’s district for a baker’s dozen years, the shame is without measure,

    narciso (732bc0)

  92. How will Trump improve the sale of non-durable consumer goods?

    nk (dbc370)

  93. Happyfeet, how will Trump improve the economy. Giving Trump’s Amnesty to millions of illegals won’t help with jobs. Protectionist practices won’t help the trade deficit. The poor will get far poorer, as the imported goods they buy will become much more expensive.

    I guess it’s likely Trump would get us into a war, which could help the economy, except Trump would probably unite the world against us. Trump doesn’t pick battles he can win. It’s been that way from the start. His racial discrimination at his apartments, his casinos, his university. All end in lawsuits, bankruptcies, firesales. Much like Trump running for president is headed for an obvious disastrous failure, Trump doesn’t think two moves ahead, and he would be a disaster for our economy and security.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  94. 87 I know that’s the conventional wisdom, especially among Trump haters, but it seems to me there’s a shift beyond despising Trump.

    (As far as the “worst candidate in history”… I think Obama has been a disaster and has done a surprisingly good job of bringing America to her knees.)

    The pay for play with Hillary is bringing it home to Democrats that she really is NOT one of them but a Wall St 1 Percenter. They’re just now waking up to that, it would seem, the middle American, union supporting, working class Democrat voter. Maybe some blacks too. For sure the Mexicans. They’re a LOT more street smart than the blacks.(who’ve been brainwashed for decades)

    I give him worst “candidate/president” in history. He makes Jimmy Carter look like a saint.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  95. obama has quite nearly brought the country to it’s knees, this is why earnest talk isn’t enough this time around,

    narciso (732bc0)

  96. I know that’s the conventional wisdom, especially among Trump haters

    PTS, you are right, it is conventional and normal to have a very low opinion of Trump. Hate’s the wrong word, but you guys like to feel oppressed so by all means tell us what a victim Trump is of me not voting for him.

    Maybe some blacks too. For sure the Mexicans. They’re a LOT more street smart than the blacks.(who’ve been brainwashed for decades)

    This is the new GOP, and I don’t stand with racists. You make me proud to vote against you guys.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  97. Mr. Trump will do so good on the economy by cutting out a lot of the over-regulation and making it to where obamacare is drowned in a river.

    That’s so exciting to me and to many other people for example that guy from the limited government group.

    He’ll make the taxes more better too.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  98. he’ll also do way better judges than stinkypig, which will help safeguard and advance economic freedom

    i love that about Mr. Trump

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  99. the gut passage from merry’s piece

    …Based on this analytic structure, Trump may not just win the election in November–he might win by a landslide–with landslide usually being defined by an overwhelming advantage in electoral college votes or 60% of the popular vote.

    narciso (732bc0)

  100. 97

    LOL… First of all, I’m not what I’d call a “Trump fan”.

    He happens to be our ONLY CHOICE, unless you want another 4/8 years of the Obama administration on steroids and perhaps the end of the Republican Party. (which BTW was started as the abolitionist party to stop the Democrat Party, inventor of the KU KLUX KLAN)

    Also, there’s nothing “racist” about identifying ethnic groups and their particular strengths and weaknesses. Have a conversation with some working class Mexicans sometime and see what they think about blacks as peers. You don’t think blacks have been brainwashed by the Democrat party for decades?

    I don’t want blacks making my Chinese Food…PERIOD. Or whites, or Mexicans or Canadians, etc

    Racist is basically believing a particular race is superior to other(s).

    So without a lot of mind reading, that’s hard to prove in a country in which voters elected a black man president twice, supreme court justice, attorney general of US, and myriads of other positions in law, medicine, education, you name it in which blacks educated themselves and succeeded.

    Now that dumb ass football player who refused to stand for the National Anthem and lives in a country and makes in one year more than most people — white, black, mexican, asian, etc., — make in their lifetimes… he’s a fucking brainwashed moron and should be fired and have repatriation training.

    If that’s racist, so be it.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  101. on one hand, they strengthened the hand of boko haram, on the other,

    http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/clinton-foundation-tied-to-hezbollah/

    narciso (732bc0)

  102. IF this is the new GOP, and I don’t stand with racists. You make me proud to vote against you guys.

    Dustin (ba94b2) — 8/29/2016 @ 2:13 pm

    ======================================

    I took the liberty of trimming your overly broad paintbrush, Dustin. Just like you to equate a malevolent nitwit with the party you fled from into the arms of the far-left, though.

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  103. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/29/anthony-weiner-loses-huma-abedin-and-two-jobs-on-the-same-day.html

    They may be throwing him under the bus.

    If this is personal in any way, it was probably Anthony Weiner sending the wrong kind of picture with himself together with his 4-year old son.

    He thought he had very good joke, and couldn’t resist.

    “Someone just climbed into my bed,” Weiner wrote.

    “Really?” she responded.

    Weiner then hit “Send” on the cringe-inducing image..

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  104. I don’t know how he finds enough fuel to stay over macho grande,

    narciso (732bc0)

  105. 101. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/29/world/europe/russia-sweden-disinformation.html?_r=0

    A Powerful Russian Weapon: The Spread of False Stories

    In Crimea, eastern Ukraine and now Syria, Mr. Putin has flaunted a modernized and more muscular military. But he lacks the economic strength and overall might to openly confront NATO, the European Union or the United States. Instead, he has invested heavily in a program of “weaponized” information, using a variety of means to sow doubt and division.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  106. R.I.P. Gene Wilder

    Icy (1dd25d)

  107. 108

    Once there was a foot race between a Russian and an American. The American came in first place.
    In the Soviet news paper the results were reported as follows.

    In a great victory for Mother Russia, our wonderful track athlete won the Silver Medal!
    The American came in next to last.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  108. they do mention her unique characteristic,

    http://in.mobile.reuters.com/article/idINKCN11414W?irpc=932

    narciso (732bc0)

  109. there has to be some irony after giving the somelives matter crew, their starting gate, after serving as a recruiting zine for running abu ghraib 40 days in a row,

    http://www.weaselzippers.us/292037-iran-deploys-russian-made-long-range-s-300-missiles-to-fordo-nuclear-site/

    narciso (732bc0)

  110. Greeks owed Pravda for a while. I knew a man who worked there – a family friend actually. I don’t know anybody from Russia Today or Zerohedge.

    nk (dbc370)

  111. In the race for the fair Huma’s hand, a certain Colonel would do well to remember that in the end there can only be one.

    Icy (1dd25d)

  112. Dustin (ba94b2) — 8/29/2016 @ 1:53 pm

    The main reason is that Hillary is running against the worst US Presidential candidate in modern history, and possibly all of American history.

    I guess it’s hard sizing him up against Andrew Jackson. Of course, Andrew Jackson had a Martin Van Buren. First as Secretary of State, then, after a stint as Ambassadoir to Great Britain, Vice Presdident.

    All Donald Trump maybe has to reign him in and make him make sense is Tim Pence and Jared Kushner.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  113. I can’t believe there’s not a family sitcom on Comedy Central called “That’s My Weiner”. The damn thing writes itself.

    Jcurtis (657632)

  114. really sammeh, did van buren restrain him on the trail of tears, his selection of taney, future notorious chief justice.

    narciso (732bc0)

  115. I took the liberty of trimming your overly broad paintbrush, Dustin. Just like you to equate a malevolent nitwit with the party you fled from into the arms of the far-left, though.

    Colonel Haiku

    I love how you whine about broad brushes in the same breath you say I’m of the far left. Serial dishonest Colonel Haiku, never changing. It shouldn’t be that hard for you to carry water for Trump.

    Trump, Hillary, and Weiner are all of the same corrupt clique of sleazy New York politicians. They are all basically the same, except Trump has psychological problems. He fawns for the Tienamen Square massacre and has said so. He muses about using nuclear weapons. Politically he may be no better than Hillary, but as a leader he simply is worse.

    it’s not my fault the only way to stop Trump is to vote Hillary. Thank the GOP leadership for that.

    I think Hillary will be almost as bad as Obama, but like millions of other GOP voters, she seems a lot less dangerous and since Trump is on the left of all issues, I have nothing to lose by voting for her. I am not trying to encourage you to join me. Haiku and other Team Rs have been carrying water for leftists for a long long time now, explaining how Romney’s socialism light is ok, explaining how Trump’s donations to Hillary must be overlooked, getting angry when his love of communist dictators is pointed out. Those are the reasons Hillary will win. Don’t shoot the messenger!

    Cheers!

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  116. Are you seriously comparing Trump to Andrew Jackson, Sammy? Try Andrew Johnson for a little closer to the mark, and even he was not as bad as Trump.

    nk (dbc370)

  117. in talking to people I’ve found that the one who dislike Mr. Trump don’t understand him very well

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  118. That Trail of Tears myth is mainly horses***. The poor, oppressed Indian chiefs who wanted to remain roosters in their own little roost, traveled it with their black slaves. For starters. And considering that the migration took place in 1838-39 and Jackson had left office on March 4, 1937 ….

    nk (dbc370)

  119. Trump’s interest in Russia goes back along time.

    In fact, according to the book “Trump and Me” by Mark Singer *, the core of which consists of a 1997 New Yorker magazine, article, it goes back to the time when it was the Soviet Union.

    From page 72:

    In 1987… What if, say, a troublemaker like Muammer Qaddafi got his hands on a nuclear arsenal? Well, Trump declared, he stood ready to work with the leaders of then then-Soviet Union to co-ordinate a formula for coping with Armageddon-minded lunatics.

    He wasn’t even a candidate for vice president then!

    All this mentioned in connection with a visit to him in January 1997 by Alexandr Lebed. Trump had by that time, met or had conversations with Mikhail Gorbachev, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George Bush (the Elder obviously), former Secretary of Defense William Perry, and all the members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

    * Recommended by Patterico a couple of weeks ago, in part because he also wrote abook on Brett Kimberlin.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  120. Weiner most likely will be hired by planned parenthood as a photographer. Maybe he will hook up with Bruce Jenner.

    mg (31009b)

  121. nk (dbc370) — 8/29/2016 @ 3:26 pm

    And considering that the migration took place in 1838-39 and Jackson had left office on March 4, 1837 ….

    Some of the worst things, including the depression, only came to fruition after he was no longer president.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  122. Heh! Martin van Buren succeeded Jackson. If you don’t already know what he looked like, Google him to see what Trump would look like if Aqua Net had not been invented.

    nk (dbc370)

  123. ^ LOL!

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  124. I keep laughing about this and then feeling guilty. At the very same time Hillary (a pathetic candidate for dogcatcher, let along president) steamrolls Trump, Trump’s fans keep explaining how he’s not so bad, not so weak. It’s like hope, but the hope of an institutionalized person that Santa will bring them sanity for Christmas.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  125. Maybe Martin Van Buren mostly made Andrew Jackson’s speeches make some sense.

    He never reversed any policy of Andrew Jackson.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  126. 116. Well, something prevented Andreww Jackson from having a war with France in 1834 or 1835

    http://www.let.rug.nl/usa/biographies/andrew-jackson/jacksonian-foreign-relations%3B-whig-obstructionism-in-the-french-crisis.php

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  127. I’m very cynical, after what began 8 years on this date, if memory serves, reputation matters little, if the journolist is in charge of relaying it, the deeds of obama and for that matter the cigar store indian were very strongly scrubbed,

    narciso (732bc0)

  128. @ 120

    You may actually want to look up information about the Trail of Tears, and Andrew Jackson’s central role in making it happen, before you say something that ill-informed again,

    Demosthenes (09f714)

  129. Don’t flatter yoursel, Dustin. You’re not worth the time or the effort. As for donations to Clinton, businessmen often donate to both parties, which has been pointed out to you by others, but it flies over your head like wing whistles through a remote canyon. But you were fine with Rick Perry’s active support of Al “He’s Cereal” Gore in the late 80’s. Consistency is not one of your strong suits.

    You should feel proud you’re voting for the thoroughly corrupt Mrs. Bill Clinton. Just don’t boast about it when you’re mincing around authentic Texans.

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  130. The comparisons between Trump and Jackson are good ones, IMO. Bigoted, populist egotists whose reputations prio to their political lives rested largely on inflated depictions of their accomplishments.

    Demosthenes (09f714)

  131. sharon, was probably the jackson of israel, up to a point,

    http://www.history.com/topics/native-american-history/trail-of-tears

    narciso (732bc0)

  132. If you like your climate, you can keep your climate

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  133. Besides, I’m a Mike Pence supporter.

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  134. In the race for the fair Huma’s hand, a certain Colonel would do well to remember that in the end there can only be one.

    Icy (1dd25d) — 8/29/2016 @ 3:07 pm

    =============================================

    Much to the chagrin of nk, Icy. He likes ’em swarthy and anti-Semitic. At least when he’s not chasing down sheep.

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  135. the skydragon netting is not about climate, but power and money, power over the people and sinecures like zapatero, stuffed into the spain’s budget,

    narciso (732bc0)

  136. Demosthenes, I have looked up the Trail of Tears. Everything I wrote in that comment is true. I did omit the $5 million the chiefs got under the Treaty of New Echota or that any Indians who chose to stay could homestead on their own plot of land like the white settlers, I confess that.

    And, yes, I know that “it was their land”.

    nk (dbc370)

  137. between this and the debt peddled by goldman and citigroup, they went pearshaped,

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/c39c484e-3298-11dd-9b87-0000779fd2ac.html#axzz4IlmViHAl

    narciso (732bc0)

  138. @ 141

    Everything is true, eh? Let’s just take this one sentence.

    “And considering that the migration took place in 1838-39 and Jackson had left office on March 4, 1[8]37 …”

    Apparently, the idea is that you can only be responsible for things that take place while you are in office, and not for things you set up that your successors merely carried through. On this theory, Andrew Johnson is responsible for winning the Civil War, and Richard Nixon is responsible for the first moon landing. Sorry, Lincoln and Kennedy. Guess you should have picked a better time to get killed. Oh, and George H.W. Bush is now responsible for the fall of the Soviet Union. Take that, Ronnie!

    In any case, your facts are simply wrong. While the heaviest forced migrations of Southeastern Indians took place in the mid-to-late 1830’s, the first removals took place in 1831. (Alexis de Tocqueville, traveling the country and gathering material for the book that would eventually become “Democracy in America,” was on hand that year to chronicle the sight of some of the first Choctaw parties crossing the Mississippi near Memphis.) And the process lasted for well over a decade…Chickasaws were still being removed from Mississippi during the Polk administration. Even just restricting your comment to the Cherokees — a mistake a lot of people make — you’re still wrong. Cherokees were being removed as early as 1836…and just to hammer home the point, yes Andrew Jackson WAS still president at that time.

    And this is why I told you that you should look up the Trail of Tears. I do know a little something about this subject. You can’t say you weren’t warned.

    Demosthenes (09f714)

  139. The oddest thing about this is that it didn’t happen scandal-before-last.

    The Clintons aren’t shy about under-bussing. Carlos Danger is a repeat-repeat-repeat offender (at least that many I can recall, and only the NSA’s data-hounds know how many times he’s offended without being caught).

    I can understand that there might be some compelling reason, from Hillary Clinton’s point of view, to keep Abedin. I’ve seen all kinds of speculation as to why, ranging from Abedin being an Islamic secret agent to Hillary’s lesbian lover. Whatever it is, it’s not a normal employment relationship, though — not even for someone who notoriously (if unconvincingly) “stood by her man” through his House impeachment and Senate acquittal.

    As for my own speculation, based on nothing more than observations of the Clintons and their Clintonistas since their early days in Arkansas:

    Surely Abedin knows where many bodies are buried, and many closets with skeletons. Whether that’s part of why Hillary hasn’t fired Abedin, I would make a large wager that that’s a very large part of why Abedin hasn’t long ago divorced Carlos.

    I still don’t know why Hillary didn’t make Abedin divorce Carlos, though, unless Carlos has something that also incriminates Hillary.

    Here’s a Trumpkin-pleasing fantasy for you: Perhaps Attorney General Christie can get Carlos to flip on Huma, who he then in turn gets to flip on Hillary & Bill.

    But my guess is that whatever is bonding Abedin to the Clintons is some sort of mutually assured destruction pact. Abedin will take the fall, if need be, but she won’t finger Hillary.

    /end rank guesswork

    Beldar (fa637a)

  140. BTW, I would not have suspected that someone called Demosthenes would be anti-populist. ☺

    nk (dbc370)

  141. It pleases me to repurpose good names for better uses.

    Demosthenes (09f714)

  142. I know about Old Settlers and New Settlers in the Nations, mainly from my interest in Stand Watie, the eponymous Confederate general in a favorite boyhood novel.

    nk (dbc370)

  143. Jimmy Carter just had a bad 14 months. He own-goaled the cancelled wheat sale and Olympic boycott. If those helicopters don’t malfunction, that’s a lot closer of a race.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  144. maybe you should try emile zola, as a handle,

    in the littell novel and series, leo krisky was the famed ‘sasha’ the russian mole in the cia, who angleton chased, to gain respectability, he married the wife of a senator, huma is the converse of this,

    narciso (732bc0)

  145. Even bad people have loyal spouses, friends and employees.

    nk (dbc370)

  146. I’m always interested in the story behind the headline, why was it published, what was ignored,

    In other words, almost half of the emails that Abedin forwarded to her unsecured personal account have information the State Department deems too sensitive to be seen by members of Congress or the American people.

    Read more at http://mobile.wnd.com/2016/08/huma-abedin-forwarded-sensitive-material-to-personal-email/#63ZZgRdX0TZjv7Km.99

    narciso (732bc0)

  147. “Abedin will take the fall, if need be, but she won’t finger Hillary.”

    BELDAR, THIS IS A FAMILY SITE!

    (…also almost precisely the opposite is the truth.)

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  148. 145

    Huh huh huh.. ha.. ha. ha… he said “finger Hillary”

    Beavis and Butthead (ce7fc3)

  149. “Legal separation” apparently has a special status, sometimes, in New York State’s divorce laws, although the term is also frequently used in New York to simply mean (as it does in common parlance elsewhere) living apart without having yet filed for divorce. Whether this is the first step toward a formal “legal separation,” or instead just a fig leaf to divert public attention and justify a ridiculous claim that this family is entitled to some special zone of privacy (i.e., exemption from any accountability as public servants, candidates, and office-holders), I can’t begin to predict. Perhaps someone who knows more about New York family law can offer an informed guess or opinion.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  150. “The comparisons between Trump and Jackson are good ones, IMO. Bigoted, populist egotists whose reputations prio to their political lives rested largely on inflated depictions of their accomplishments.”

    You’re using words that make it almost sound like a bad thing. If no one’s inflating your accomplishments, there probably wasn’t much story to tell to begin with.

    According to alt-right luminaries, however, the parallel we should be looking for is apparently William McKinley.

    “First, both ran for President during a historical realignment of the party system. For McKinley, it was the shift into the Fourth Party System, or the Progressive Era, after the bitterly divisive Civil War and Reconstruction era. In Trump’s case, it is out of the neoliberal / neoconservative Sixth Party System that has seen growing polarization, class war, and intra-elite competition since the mid-1970s.

    Second, both campaigned on economic nationalism and making tariffs a respectable topic and tactic. [2] McKinley rode into the House of Representatives in the late 1870s by calling for protective tariffs, and by the end of his Congressional career, had achieved the McKinley Tariff of 1890. After assuming the presidency in 1897, he followed up by championing the Dingley Act, which restored tariffs after their moderate reduction in 1894 (under the Wilson-Gorman Tariff). By the 1909 Payne-Aldrich Tariff Act, the trend he began would culminate in a deep split within the Republican Party, peeling off the laissez-faire Old Guard from the insurgent nationalist Progressives.

    Trump will not cause such a fundamental rift himself, since that takes some time to grow. But he will certainly be the first to inject economic nationalism into a Republican Party deeply steeped in laissez-faire ideology. And like McKinley, he will be advocating tariffs on their ability to strengthen domestic industries, rather than as a way for government to raise more money for itself. They see them as deterrents against economic imperialism from foreign industries — they hope to never actually collect the tariffs because, in our case, the Chinese will think twice about dumping all their cheap crud in our country to begin with. The goal is to start making quality stuff here in America, thereby providing good jobs to those who produce the stuff, and using those higher incomes to afford quality stuff.

    Third, both aimed to reconcile workers and business owners. As a lawyer before taking office, McKinley successfully defended (pro bono) a group of miners who had gotten into a fight with strikebreakers. That was in 1876, long before labor rights were popular, let alone among Republicans. This continued when he became the Governor of Ohio:

    Although McKinley believed that the health of the nation depended on that of business, he was evenhanded in dealing with labor. He procured legislation that set up an arbitration board to settle work disputes and obtained passage of a law that fined employers who fired workers for belonging to a union.

    This was during the 1890s, when politicians were beginning to tolerate labor rights, lest the economy and the polity be torn asunder by class warfare — particularly in the wake of the Pullman Railroad Strike of 1894, after which the laissez-faire / company town model began to fall under suspicion.

    Trump hasn’t explicitly called for greater labor rights, but he’s still in his campaign for the Republican nomination. All the calls for bringing jobs back from off-shored companies, restoring our manufacturing base, kicking out the illegal immigrant job-stealers here, and investing government revenues into re-building our infrastructure instead of playing video games in the Middle East — it couldn’t be a clearer signal to blue-collar workers, and a warning to business owners who don’t mind ruining the entire society just to add a few extra zeros to their net worth.”

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  151. A brief overview of legal separation in Illinois, Beldar. http://www.divorcesource.com/ds/illinois/illinois-legal-separation-5312.shtml

    It’s not something I am familiar with. I wonder if it’s not a holdover from the pre-no-fault divorce days, because it does nothing more than interim orders for support and parenting do during the pendency of a divorce.

    nk (dbc370)

  152. This is sucker bait.

    Just like HRC’s ‘racism’ lecture last Thursday.

    That’s the strategy. Every media cycle spent pawing these pieces of salacious catnip is one less spent focusing on emails, foundation corruption, health issues and so forth. And more closer to the debates and the general. The next way point is the first debate, which will eat up the media oxygen even more.

    Clearing the decks on Labor Day week for the General Push. Expect a post-election reconciliation.

    ‘Smithers! Release the spinners!’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  153. the personal aspects of the slimey bugger are not as significance as their policy implications

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/former-secdef-hillary-clinton-not-involved-national-security-issues-first-lady/

    narciso (732bc0)

  154. ah grasshopper, you catch on quick, how many years did it take you to miss the squirrels,

    narciso (732bc0)

  155. a warning to business owners who don’t mind ruining the entire society just to add a few extra zeros to their net worth

    Says the supporter of Trump….

    BTW, you definitely don’t want too close a comparison to McKinley, considering how his presidency ended.

    kishnevi (a1a81b)

  156. “You’re using words that make it almost sound like a bad thing.”

    Which words? Bigoted? Populist? Egotist? Are these things you think deserve approbation and encouragement?

    “If no one’s inflating your accomplishments, there probably wasn’t much story to tell to begin with.”

    Honesty, modesty, and accuracy are not yet passe, despite the best efforts of the Cult of Self.

    Demosthenes (09f714)

  157. #155

    The blog Dystopia Max quotes from is the same one who says that Kasich forced tens of thousands of Democrats to vote for himself in the Ohio primary, by telling them he would fire them if they didn’t.

    Gerald A (76f251)

  158. Hahahahahaha… “alt-right luminaries”

    Spare us.

    Leviticus (2bbb01)

  159. alt-right loony-naries?

    Gerald A (76f251)

  160. Alt-right ruminants

    Leviticus (2bbb01)

  161. BTW, I would not have suspected that someone called Demosthenes would be anti-populist. ☺

    nk (dbc370)

    It’s not a reference to the Greek pundit. It’s a reference to an online political concern troll in a sci-fi book.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  162. You’re gonna love this:

    https://youtu.be/hLpE1Pa8vvI

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  163. Surely Abedin knows where many bodies are buried, and many closets with skeletons. Whether that’s part of why Hillary hasn’t fired Abedin, I would make a large wager that that’s a very large part of why Abedin hasn’t long ago divorced Carlos.

    Beldar is absolutely right. That’s also why they know they can trust him. They each are wedded to eachother’s confidentiality. Their corruption has instilled a perverse type of trust.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  164. comes from the ender series from orson scott card,

    mailman’s son expanded medicaid, straining his state’s budgets, why wouldn’t dems vote for him,

    narciso (732bc0)

  165. Demos is people and sthenes is strength — “strength of the people” or even “power to the people”. 😊

    I was riffing off the etymology, not the Greek orator.

    nk (dbc370)

  166. Huma will make a great Chief of Staff.
    Our nation has never had a Chief of Staff who sympathizes with the Muslim Brotherhood!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  167. Upcoming adventures from Carlos Danger:

    – Standing in the middle of Chuck E. Cheese at dinnertime rush hour, masturbating

    – Naked and dry humping a life-size SM blow-up girl in the middle of Grand Central Station

    – Marching through LAX, naked again, firing off a gun and wearing a ball gag in his mouth

    – Dressed as a woman and strangling a live flamingo at the Children’s Zoo in L.A.

    qdpsteve (901458)

  168. Thanks, Hoagie!

    nk (dbc370)

  169. You are so misunderstood, nk. Even with the hint you left.

    felipe (023cc9)

  170. narciso’s got me beat by a mile, felipe.

    nk (dbc370)

  171. while my handle is that of the idealist patriot who tried to liberate cuba,

    http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/greekmenandwomen/p/Demosthenes.htm

    so is trump supposed to be phillip of macedonia,

    narciso (732bc0)

  172. “…That’s also why they know they can trust him. They each are wedded to eachother’s confidentiality. Their corruption has instilled a perverse type of trust.”

    Dustin (ba94b2) — 8/29/2016 @ 7:55 pm

    =================================

    Float On” “Vote On” Teh Floaters

    Vote, vote on
    Vote on, vote on
    Vote, vote, vote on
    Vote on, vote on
    Feces, Libra,Leo, Cancer
    Dustin, Huma, Hillary, Bill

    Feces and my name is Dustin
    Now I like a woman who loves her money
    And I like a woman who can look you in the eye and lie
    And if you fit that description, baby, come with me
    Long in the tooth, come with me, baby, to teh voting booth
    Let me show you how sweet it could be
    Ruining the country, that’s key
    Vote, vote on (Come on, come on,
    (Come on, baby, yeah, yeah)
    Vote on, vote on (Ooh, ooh, baby)

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  173. All of this makes me feel very sad for Huma and Weiner’s little boy who deserves none of this misery.

    Dana (995455)

  174. Given my interests, your handle always evokes Asturias for me
    http://www.narcisoyepes.org

    kishnevi (a1a81b)

  175. “Says the supporter of Trump….”

    NOT AN ARGUMENT

    “The blog Dystopia Max quotes from is the same one who says that Kasich forced tens of thousands of Democrats to vote for himself in the Ohio primary, by telling them he would fire them if they didn’t.”

    NOT AN ARGUMENT

    “Which words? Bigoted? Populist? Egotist? Are these things you think deserve approbation and encouragement?”

    NOT AN ARGUMENT

    “BTW, you definitely don’t want too close a comparison to McKinley, considering how his presidency ended.”

    Shot by an angry immigrant halfway into his second term and thus galvanizing a few decades of some of the greatest right-wing Presidents and American prosperity in history isn’t exactly the worst way to go out.

    “Honesty, modesty, and accuracy are not yet passe, despite the best efforts of the Cult of Self.”

    What made them passe was not the ‘cult of the self’, but the Rise of the Slut Power. Even the honest, modest, and accurate must be grandstanding assholes at the very least in order to make any lasting public impact in this environment. Better if the attitude comes to you naturally, since speaking it as a second language, as so many of you seem to, make your attempts at ‘humor’ and ‘cutting words’ fall flat. Consult @chateauemissary for tips.

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  176. “RACISM, STRAIGHT UP: Hillary Clinton running mate Tim Kaine once blocked three potential jurors from hearing a case because they were white.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/242571/

    Can’t wait to vote against them! It will be an honor.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  177. I’m torn between my natural racist nature saying this is perfectly reasonable practice in a multicultural society and my natural atavistic nature saying that Tim Kaine really needs to be knocked off his pedestal and into a Detroit ghetto and America’s knee-jerk ‘anti-racism’ is just the thing to do it poetically. If Hillary really wanted a reasonable everyday racist for a running mate, she could have picked Taylor, Duke, or Sailer.

    You definitely should NOT spread this story to all your normie Republican friends, acquaintances, and blogs.

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  178. I’ve spoken of my distant kin, he was the brigade commander at the bay of pigs, I didn’t know this conection till a few years ago, sort of the narciso lopez of his day, he survived by the betrayal weighed on him from nearly 30 years,

    narciso (732bc0)

  179. Looks like a onetime NRX guy just made it to the big leagues! It’s a thing of beauty and quotability…*sniff*

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/08/29/who-is-pepe-really/

    “the fundamental political rights that Americans have come to expect tend not to be respected by either the political elites in Washington and academia or the reinforcements that they’re importing over the borders by the millions.

    The left realizes this. They think it’s great, because they want to crush the skull of the host culture and suck out its brains. This is a rich country with lots of stuff to steal that isn’t nailed down properly. The rules against stealing impede the program.

    To the left, immigrants are reinforcements. To Karl Rove, selling the notion that those immigrants may vote GOP some time over the rainbow is a great way to squeeze more cash out of newsletter subscribers.

    The GOP establishment is like a negligent prison administration that insists that there is no gang activity in the prison, and that the prisoners should all work together peacefully to meet their license plate production quota or whatever.

    Sometimes GOP talking heads use rhetoric that sound like a prison foreman paraphrasing Martin Luther King about why the prisoners should work together more efficiently across racial lines to exceed their license plate production quota by at least 32% this quarter.

    “I have a dream… that we stand on the warm threshold of beating our production quota!”

    Not that inspirational.”

    “If you sat through a lecture about all the historical crimes of the White race (typical even at prestigious universities) and replaced every mention of ‘White’ with that of another race, you would think you were listening to Hitler’s grand-niece articulating a casus belli to invade Kansas.

    The conventional right has done almost nothing about this other than complain. It has not defunded universities. It has not moved to seize university endowments. It has not moved to remove accreditation from universities that participate in it.

    Instead, the GOP line has been to embrace it and to amplify it while patting itself on the back for trying to undermine affirmative action at the margins through court cases.

    Dystopia Max (76803a)

  180. “The GOP establishment is like a negligent prison administration that insists that there is no gang activity in the prison, and that the prisoners should all work together peacefully to meet their license plate production quota or whatever.
    Living it.

    mg (31009b)

  181. remember this fellow, he organized the ambush, ahem, protest that led to the deaths of the five dallas cops.

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/263998/black-lives-matter-dallas-mass-murder-protest-daniel-greenfield

    narciso (732bc0)

  182. there’s a limited audience for depravity,

    http://variety.com/2016/tv/news/tv-ratings-vmas-plummet-mtv-1201846812/

    narciso (732bc0)

  183. I will be so happy when Trump quits in October, because all these trolls here will be gone.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  184. “RACISM, STRAIGHT UP: Hillary Clinton running mate Tim Kaine once blocked three potential jurors from hearing a case because they were white.”

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/242571/

    Can’t wait to vote against them! It will be an honor.

    Colonel Haiku

    This is the best Haiku can do to prove racism in a democrat? Seems pretty pathetic when you figure Clinton has repeatedly praised KKK Cyclops Robert Byrd.

    The problem is that Trump has praised them both. And while selecting a black jury pool is kinda racist, it’s nothing like what Trump had to pay legal penalties for over the years, including marking C on the applications of ‘colored’ applicants for automatic rejection.

    The GOP is defined by Trump. He’s the nominee, and his weakness as a candidate says something about the weakness of the GOP, which we all have sensed for years.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  185. Mr. Trump is the best one – he’s like the cheese he stands alone.

    He doesn’t *define* the GOP he’s giving those spendy perverted chamberslut losers a much-needed timeout while he sets about doing the hard work of making America great again.

    This is why he’s America’s favorite pickle.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  186. The GOP picked him, feets. The GOP is him. He’s the GOP’s fav pickle. The Republicans who like him the most are the white supremacists. Not to say all Trump fans are. Some just were conned into thinking Trump isn’t Hillary’s biggest fan.

    I don’t see how Trump represents a timeout to perversion or spending. Did you watch his confirmation speech? This isn’t a limited government kind of guy.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  187. nonono you’re remembering it wrong

    the GOP showered money on whiny entitled self-deluded Jeb, who came from a very filthy dissipated low-class family of political trash

    this was a HUGE miscalculate!

    it served to force-multiply the puissance of Mr. Trump’s charisma celebrity and business acumen relative to other hopefuls like the rapidly-imploding governor scott walker

    so the poor chambersluts who wanted a tame little jebbie boy got Mr. Trump instead

    and isn’t that a fine kettle of fish?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  188. Yes!

    it is an exceedingly wonderful kettle of fish!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  189. This isn’t a limited government kind of guy.

    no no that ship sailed

    but he understands the horrific rape america’s federal employee thugs are doing on America with their regulate

    and he sees the chamberslut paul ryan agenda very clearly for what it is

    Mr. Trump is a vastly better choice than the criminal stenchpig with her sodden squelchy pantsuits and weirdo huma-renfield in tow.

    At best she promises four more years of sleaze, degradation and failure.

    Mr. Trump on the other hand offers a bold break from the dismal status quo.

    This is why he’s America’s favorite pickle.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  190. i would also venture that Mr. Trump is much more of a small government person than perverted weird Mitt Romney, who invented obamacare

    i would also venture that Mr. Trump is much more of a small government person than Meghan’s coward daddy who fancies himself something of a military expert and thinks stinkypig clinton is the relatively intelligent daughter he never had

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  191. Thank you, mittens, kasich, juan, and the booshes for developing moron republicans. Your party and it’s sheep happen to be going over the cliff.

    mg (31009b)

  192. The republican party is like a tick on a dog. The best part is finding them and flushing them down the toilet.

    mg (31009b)

  193. preach it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  194. I feel sorry for the diploma crowd be suckered in to the republican party.
    Common Sense needs no diploma.

    mg (31009b)

  195. cross your t’s, dot your i’s, and put the comma where the sun don’t shine.

    mg (31009b)

  196. Baseline accounting is a republican wet dream. Vote Juan out, Arizona.

    mg (31009b)

  197. 196… the clown takes the bait and is now stuck to a gluey sarcasm. Careful, Dustin, or you’ll blow an O-ring… or a seal… or Shamu.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  198. “I’ve had enough of reading things
    By neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
    All I want is the truth
    Just gimme some truth

    No short-haired, yellow-bellied, momma of obama
    Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
    With just a pocketful of hope
    Money for dope
    Money for rope

    I’m sick to death of seeing things
    From tight-lipped, condescending, Obama’s little democrats
    All I want is the truth
    Just gimme some truth now

    I’ve had enough of watching scenes
    Of schizophrenic, ego-centric, paranoiac, prima-donnas
    All I want is the truth now
    Just gimme some truth

    No short-haired, yellow-bellied, momma of obama
    Is gonna mother hubbard soft soap me
    With just a pocketful of soap
    It’s money for dope
    Money for rope

    I’ve had enough of reading things
    by neurotic, psychotic, pig-headed politicians
    All I want is the truth now
    Just gimme some truth now”

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  199. Meanwhile UN the age of Obama, volodya’s troops will be able to see Alaska from siberia

    narciso (732bc0)

  200. Tech stocks look to get crushed on the news:

    As the FT reported first yesterday, the EU has judged that the Irish government granted Apple “undue tax benefits” and moments ago the European Commission announced the size of the penalty when it ordered the tech giant repay up to €13 billion ($14.5 billion) plus interest. According to the EU, the Irish deal slashed Apple taxes from 2003 to 2014, and allowed Apple to avoid tax on almost all EU profit, lowering its effective tax rate on European profits from 0.005% to 1%.

    “The commission’s investigation concluded that Ireland granted illegal tax benefits to Apple, which enabled it to pay substantially less tax than other businesses over many years,” EU Competition Commissioner Margrethe Vestager says in e-mailed statement from Brussels. “This is illegal under EU state aid rules, because it allowed Apple to pay substantially less tax than other businesses. Ireland must now recover the illegal aid,” the commission said in a statement.

    Apple and the Irish government have both vowed to fight the decision.

    DNF (755a85)

  201. Not even attempting to hide the lie:

    Slumping economic growth and rising gas prices don’t matter. US Consumer Confidence jumped to 101.1 in August – highest since Sept 2015 – smashing expectations by almost 5 standard deviations as stocks hit record highs.

    Which is why the savings rate has turned up sharply.

    DNF (755a85)

  202. 198. Unqualified ph*ckwitticisms. Go back and repeat grade school.

    DNF (755a85)

  203. “The Republicans who like him the most are the white supremacists. Not to say all Trump fans are. Some just were conned into thinking Trump isn’t Hillary’s biggest fan.”

    If it walks like a fever-swamp moonbat, talks like a fever-swamp moonbat, well…

    Colonel Haiku (65fb70)

  204. Demosthenes (09f714) — 8/29/2016 @ 5:22 pm

    Apparently, the idea is that you can only be responsible for things that take place while you are in office, and not for things you set up that your successors merely carried through. On this theory, Andrew Johnson is responsible for winning the Civil War, and Richard Nixon is responsible for the first moon landing… Oh, and George H.W. Bush is now responsible for the fall of the Soviet Union. Take that, Ronnie!

    Actually, the Civil War was in fact considered over while Lincoln was still president. The surrender at Appomattox took place om Wednesday, April 12, 1865 and Lincoln was shot on Friday, April 14, 1865. Some fighting continued in other parts of the country, not near Virginia, but it was considered over by then. Lincoln said so.

    https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/us-history/history-survey/us-history-survey/v/appomattox-court-house-and-lincoln-s-assassination

    Most of the Indian removal was done, and all of the laws were passed, while Andrew Jackson was president. I am beginning to think that maybe the Trail of Tears by Martin Van Bburen wanting to put an end to the matter so it wouldn’t be an issue in the 1840 Election. If that was the case, we can say it succeeded, although you say something more was still done during the Polk administration.

    Martin Van Buren also tried to end the bank issue, maybe, or maybe the whole idea in the first palace was to create more federal patronage. People didn’t quite understand, maybe, how the federal government had caused a depression – or maybe they did? I need to read some more about this if I can find something. I don’t recall reading it was an issue in 1844 or later.

    The word “OK,” now the one word understood in all languages of the world almost, came out of the campaign of 1840. There are several explanation for it – I think it was a Whig insult that got adopted by the Democrats.

    Nobody had any idea that anything would happen soon to Communism on January 20, 1989. It’s not clear anyway, how Reagan ended it. He predicted it would end, that it wouldn’t last forever, that’s what he did. George H.W. Bush tried to hinder the break-up of the Soviet Union with his “Chicken Kiev” speech, for which he as criticized. KGB propaganda at the time was that the same thing would happen in the Soviet Union as happened in Yugoslavia. But it didn’t. (Chechnya was part of Russia and not a separate republic.) It took almost 25 years for something to happen regarding Ukraine.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  205. US Consumer Confidence jumped to 101.1 in August – highest since Sept 2015 – smashing expectations by almost 5 standard deviations as stocks hit record highs.

    DNF (755a85) — 8/30/2016 @ 7:39 am

    “Which is why the savings rate has turned up sharply.”

    Consumer confidence is the average answer to the questuion: Do you expect to make a large purchase in the next six months?

    Historically, that has gone down, when people see trouble coming in the business from which they make their money.

    But people can also buy on credit, and what may be happening, is that credit is getting easier to get or less expensive. Some people have refinanced mortgages at lower rates.

    People with stable incomes may buy. People who worry still probably won’t.

    Sammy Finkelman (372aad)

  206. Well the questip. Of central banks, like the bank of the united states then, like the fed now, is they add a solution searching for apriblem. The 1920 recession wAS not resolved by the fed, the great depression by contrast was likely exacerbated by it.

    narciso (732bc0)

  207. KGB propaganda at the time was that the same thing would happen in the Soviet Union as happened in Yugoslavia. But it didn’t.

    The veracity of that assertion hinges on what they meant by “same thing”.

    A general crack-up of the Soviet Union into violently antagonistic republics typified by medium-high intensity conflict did not occur, as in the former Yugoslavia.

    That said, the Soviet collapse was an immediate contributing factor to the bloody Tajik Civil War, in addition to lesser wars in the Caucasus like the Georgia-Ossetia conflict and the region that is known as Nagorno-Karabakh.

    JP (bd5dd9)

  208. Trump’s conduct in the housing issue was entirely above board and fueled by the wishes of his tenants:

    A recent Washington Post article is headlined “How Donald Trump abandoned his father’s middle-class housing empire for luxury building.” The Post celebrates Fred C. Trump (1905–99) as one of the biggest builders of affordable apartments in the outer boroughs.

    But it forgets to mention that Frederick Christ Trump would have been one of Ta-Nehisi Coates’ demons, since he typically built with the help of the Veterans Administration and other government agencies in redlined neighborhoods, such as the 3,800-unit Trump Village in heavily Jewish Coney Island. (Fred sometimes asserted his parents were from Sweden to sidestep his tenants’ prejudices against German-Americans.)

    Fred Trump’s company was rewarded for all its contributions to middle-class America by being sued by the Nixon administration in 1973 for violating the 1968 Fair Housing Act. Only 4 percent of its tenants—in places like Forest Hills in Queens and Brighton Beach in Brooklyn—were black. The young Donald fired back, hiring Roy Cohn and arguing that allowing welfare recipients to rent in his father’s complexes would risk “massive fleeing from the city of not only our tenants, but communities as a whole.” Eventually, Donald signed one of those consent decrees with the feds, not admitting to doing anything but promising never to do it again.

    Perhaps that episode played a role in the son’s determination to get out of his father’s business of building affordable housing in the outer boroughs, with its constant danger that antidiscrimination laws would trigger white flight to the suburbs among their largely middle-class Jewish customers, and instead follow the new generation of nouveaux riches New Yorkers to Manhattan. In 1983 Donald proved that New York’s 1970s economic malaise was definitely over by opening on Fifth Avenue the gaudy Trump Tower, which has since been home to numerous celebrities such as Jay Z and Beyoncé.

    As the saying goes, “Our prices discriminate, so we don’t have to.”

    Who here likes dissing Roy Cohn? Probably Communists.

    Dystopia Max (76803a)


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