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8/24/2016

Hillary Clinton And Her Dirty Deeds

Filed under: General — Dana @ 7:05 am



[guest post by Dana]

The hits just keep coming. Whether they’ll make a difference in the election, or anything else, is frustratingly doubtful.

More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money — either personally or through companies or groups — to the Clinton Foundation. It’s an extraordinary proportion indicating her possible ethics challenges if elected president.

Donors who were granted time with Clinton included an internationally known economist who asked for her help as the Bangladesh government pressured him to resign from a nonprofit bank he ran; a Wall Street executive who sought Clinton’s help with a visa problem; and Estee Lauder executives who were listed as meeting with Clinton while her department worked with the firm’s corporate charity to counter gender-based violence in South Africa.

They are among at least 85 of 154 people with private interests who either met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton and also gave to her family’s charities, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press. Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. The 154 does not include U.S. federal employees or foreign government representatives.

Clinton spokesman, Brian Fallon called it “outrageous to “misrepresent” Clinton’s meetings with these donors as anything but coincidental.

Juggling all those favors of access must have been exhausting for the then-Secretary of State, given that Huma Abedin apparently had to remind her to take her nap. All things considered, it sure would have been better for Huma if monitoring nap time for her boss was the only demand made of her.

Oh. Do you know who else donated $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation while Clinton was Secretary of State?

–Dana

147 Responses to “Hillary Clinton And Her Dirty Deeds”

  1. Coincidences follow Clinton like bad money.

    Dana (995455)

  2. There’s a book there: Outrageous coincidences.

    felipe (b5e0f4)

  3. I am always amazed at how huge sums of money seem to fly around among the privileged in business, charity and government with a wink and a nod. Corporations, “bundlers” (a term I love), union donors, lobbyists and even religious organizations all paying to play and us average stoops never seem to know or care. Oh sure, it’s a matter of public record but where does one look? And even when everybody claims it’s on the up-and-up why does it appear dirty and nefarious?

    The other thing is, (and I hate to say it due to all the attorneys here), there are too many lawyers in government. They have lawyers making laws that lawyers make money off of. In any other profession the lawyers would be screaming conflict of interest but since it’s in their interest they have a cute Latin name for it: quid pro quo.

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6)

  4. We knew this when we learned that Hillary regularly got $250,000 for a 20 minute speech. She’s just not that great of an orator.

    AZ Bob (d6a3a9)

  5. It’s all a game, isn’t it? The oligarchy finally gave us two choices for President that will make us heartily sick, or heart-sick, of democracy. And the finger. But, dang, couldn’t they have put up a couple of people who are at least good to look at?

    nk (dbc370)

  6. It’s an extraordinary proportion indicating her possible ethics challenges if elected president.

    Of course not. It’s just an amazing coincidence.

    J.P. (9e0433)

  7. I commented over at neo-neocon’s blog that Hitlery could saunter down to the zoo and kill every animal, and her fans would show up for the BBQ and come back for seconds.

    Which isn’t something clever I’ve come up with. It’s just obvious. I am the effin’ master of obvious. The “most transparent administration in history” has given me plenty of practice.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  8. Brian Fallon called it “outrageous to “misrepresent” Clinton’s meetings with these donors as anything but coincidental.

    It would be outrageous to suggest that 100 coin flips that resulted in 50 coins landing on their edge was anything but a coincidence,

    Mike K (90dfdc)

  9. I am always amazed at how huge sums of money seem to fly around among the privileged in business, charity and government with a wink and a nod. Corporations, “bundlers” (a term I love), union donors, lobbyists and even religious organizations all paying to play..,

    Rev. Hoagie® (0f4ef6) — 8/24/2016 @ 7:28 am

    I’m surprised you’re amazed. It’s the point. It’s why I am not a Trump fan. We have the government he paid for. He brags about it.

    To go off on a different tangent, I find it hard to come up with sympathy for the Catholic Church as it battles the Obama administration over the health care mandates.

    This is the government the Catholic Church lobbied to get.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  10. Greetings:

    And, unfortunately, they’re not done dirt cheap.

    11B40 (6abb5c)

  11. When libtards are caught dead to rights they start whipping out words like “outrageous.”

    I believe that’s how President Barack Husein Obama described the IRS abuse of conservatives.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  12. 7, I thought that already happened in June, metaphorically speaking of course.

    and 10, its the heavy metal/hard rock wing that has pushed the country wing out of power in one party.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  13. I am outraged at the amazing surprise that Hillary! is a Democrat and a Clinton!?!?!!

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  14. The FBI comes off as a sorry group of bought and paid for hacks. They have deemed themselves rodeo clown status.
    Light the match.

    mg (31009b)

  15. let’s not kid ourselves. The success or failure of “Trumpism” depends on many different factors. A nation roiling now with competing values, interests, factions, isms, beliefs, ideologues — left, right and center, God-based and godless, will continue to roil. A new America, for good or ill, won’t emerge for a time, and the struggle getting there promises to be cruel.

    For all those narrow and deluded minds among the #NeverTrump rump — by their own reckoning — a Trump win bodes ill for you. But a Trump loss promises only that the fight continues and ratchets up, matter of fact. The passion among the millions coming out for Trump isn’t going away — and, best bet, that passion ain’t going your way.

    DNF (755a85)

  16. More than half the people outside the government who met with Hillary Clinton while she was secretary of state gave money — either personally or through companies or groups

    More than half of the private citizens.

    16 foreign countries gave money to the Clinton Foundation, and the AP is not looking at any foreign dignatories who did not personally give any contributions.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  17. Clinton spokesman, Brian Fallon called it “outrageous to “misrepresent” Clinton’s meetings with these donors as anything but coincidental.

    For instance, the Crown Prince of Bahrain, who got a meeting with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton as a result of a referral from Doug Band, who communicated via e-mail with Huma Abedin.

    The Clinton defense to the charge of doing something because of Foundation contributions by him or by Bahrain is that Doug Band was not acting in his capacity as head of the Clinton Foundation, but acting in his capacity as close personal aide to Bill Clinton, so this had nothing to do with the Foundation at all.

    Laura Graham, a senior executive of the foundation, also communicated with top Hillary Clinton aide Cheryl Mills, but by telephone, so there is no record of what she said, except for the record of the fact that close to 150 voice mail messages were left over a two year period. Voice conversations are neither recorded nor transcribed, and, unlike e-mail, which must be preserved, are not preserved even when they are recorded, except that notes are sometimes taken of really official conversations with foreign leaders or diplomats.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  18. the crown prince of bahrain, the fmr head of general intelligence, mr. pinchuk tied to the old oligarchy, a host of other worthy folk, chagoury which has been involved in the looting of nigeria, previously worked with mark rich,

    narciso (732bc0)

  19. 9. Then into the ashbin of History you go.

    Iran today announced going forward their focus on missile development will be anti-ship.

    Your beloved air craft carriers are going the way of the dreadnoughts, life expectancy 2 weeks in a conflagration. While lasers can protect against missiles a few at a time sub fleets burgeon as well.

    DNF (755a85)

  20. what happens with those who predominantly donate to gop, like those independent auto dealers, vanderslip, adelson, the koch’s, they must pay the vig,

    narciso (732bc0)

  21. as the abedin’s salafi ties nearly totally escape attention, another was set up by vipers,

    http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/trumps-controversial-new-adviser-promoted-conservatism-even-in-the-navy

    narciso (732bc0)

  22. 17. I’ve seen it argued that Arabs are to tribal to be held under the sway of sectarianism.

    But this author does not hint at that and gives evidence that given tribes litter all sides in Syria.

    All the same, Western reliance on the primacy of Sunnis owing to their numbers is plainly a total failure.

    DNF (ffe548)

  23. And yet another amazing coincidence, the FBI’s notes from the Vince Foster suicide have (been) disappeared from the National Archives.

    The galling thing is that you have to go to the UK press to find these trivial little anecdotes about the Clintons. Not that they aren’t picked up later by partisan websites.

    They should strip search anyone leaving the archives who has had any connection whatsoever with the Clintons. Who knows what you’d find in their underwear.

    BobStewartatHome (f2b3a5)

  24. and his follow up, is even more insightful, the tribes in anbar, behaved like flounder, and trustest incipient islamic atate leadership,

    narciso (732bc0)

  25. Is there anything we can learn about the Clintoons and their associates that can surprise us now? Except that they still have security clearances?

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  26. Who knows what you’d find in their underwear.

    BobStewartatHome (f2b3a5) — 8/24/2016 @ 9:48 am

    Now, there’s a frightening thought.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  27. dial the neuralizer to eleventy, the earlier link suggests that where the original proof for the israeli lobby came from,

    narciso (732bc0)

  28. What’s even worse is the fact the LHMFM thinks I want to crawl around in a Clinton’s underwear.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  29. yes there isn’t a large enough hazmat suite, to avoid that kind of infestation,

    narciso (732bc0)

  30. Well, at least he didn’t donate to La Raza!

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  31. Clinton’s underwear was a substantial portion of her “donations” to charity back when Bill was …
    well, whatever Bill was doing. She claimed it worth $200 iirc.

    BobStewartatHome (f2b3a5)

  32. Question is, will the HillaryEnablers aka NeverTrumpers cast their vote against the Clinton Monarchy coming to a White House near you.

    Otherwise, all the talk is verbal social-outrage masturbation much like “The View”… good as click bait, but little more.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  33. 35. Not that he knew of, but maybe he did to the sleazy skirt- and ambulance-chasing lawyer group of the same name.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  34. 38. This was a group, allegedly looking for a candidate (another was Americans Elect) that seemed to have settled on Evan McMullin, but now gave up its ballot access efforts.

    This was not a McMullin group. Better for America, and the other one, Ameriicans Elect probably always were Hillary Clinton fronts, designed to stop other people from making efforts to get somebody else on the ballot. Third party candidates, particularly more Republican oriented ones, hurt her, so the way to stop it is to give people false hope and then pull the rug out from them.

    The idea is that, with no other choices, some #NeverTrump people might go all the way, and vote for her, like many Democrats did for Nixon in 1972.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  35. Evan McMullin’s a trashy sacky-tainted cia poofter of extremely questionable character.

    And he’s probably all up in it with pervy sore loser Mitt Romney.

    It’s the times we live in I guess.

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  36. As Loretta Lynch might suggest about the alleged impropriety of these donations, “We may never know what their motivation was.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  37. http://www.wsj.com/articles/as-secretary-of-state-hillary-clinton-hosted-at-dinner-a-ukrainian-donor-to-family-foundation-1471995857

    AP reviewed calendar information and detailed schedules that cover half of Mrs. Clinton’s State Department tenure. The wire service, which sued for the calendar material, expects to receive the other half prior to Election Day.

    Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon complained that the meetings the AP summarized covered less than half of her tenure as Secretary, and that she had over 1,700 meetings [in the same time period? Or over the whole period of time she was Secretary of State?] with world leaders, and countless meetings with U.S. government officials. And these 85 or 154 people are a tiny fraction of all the people she met with in her office while holding the position of Secretary of State.

    I am not sure. If this is less than half her tenure, say she met 750 foreign government officials.

    154 divided by 904 (154+750) is a little more than 17% or about 1/6. 85/904 is almost 9 1/2% One out of every 10 or 11 meetings, not with U.S. government officials, were with somebody private.

    Anotehr way. Say that’s for 2 years. 730/154 is about once every 4 or 5 calendar days. 730/85 is about once every 8 and half days. Not all tht frequently, but often enough, and that doesn’t count people she met at home, or in New York, or talked with over the telephone, or representatives of foreign governments that contributed to the Clinton Foundation.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  38. it’s 51 flavors of oligarch, warlord, dictator and cronies of same,

    narciso (732bc0)

  39. squint your eyes and look closer

    don’t get between pig and her ambition

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  40. 20. narciso (732bc0) — 8/24/2016 @ 9:13 am

    the crown prince of bahrain, the fmr head of general intelligence, mr. pinchuk tied to the old oligarchy,

    That’s 3 different people? The former head of general intelligence for what country?

    Pinchuk, I see, with the help of Google is Ukrainian billionaire Victor Pinchuk. He was, the Wall Street Journal says, a dinner guest at “Clinton Foundation dinner” at Hillary Clinton’s home in Washington, D.C. in 2012. He was described in something (the Foundation?) prepared as a “successful businessman, whose role in civic, international affairs and charitable organizations has made him a leader in Ukraine’s growing interaction with Europe and the world.”

    Newsweek said in 2015 he was the largest individual (non-institution or country) contributor to the Clinton Foundation. He’s connected to some company in Cyprus that sold oil equipment to Iran, but they may not have been covered by solely U.S. sanctions. He’s the son-in-law of former Ukrainian president (during the 1990s) Leonid Kuchma. Not easy to find out quickly what he’s been doing since early 2014

    a host of other worthy folk, chagoury which has been involved in the looting of nigeria,

    Chagoury contacted the State Department to find out who’s the most important U.S. official dealing with Lebanon. That was the ambassador to Lebanon (later that year promoted by Hillary) The claim is he wanted to say something about the Lebanese elections – that was what was urgent.

    previously worked with mark rich,

    Who did?

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  41. #44 Sammy,

    Come on, buddy, the “half of all meetings” allegation pertains to meetings with people outside the government. For Brian Fallon to try to muddy the waters by shifting the goalposts by including all of her GOVERNMENT meetings is just plain shady.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  42. 44. 45. Wait!

    I see the 154 includes phone conversations, while the 1,700 (or 750 or so if you adjust for the time period) does not.

    So that’s not that high a percentage of every contact with somebody outside the U.S. government she had while she was in her office.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  43. They do the same thing with immigration. So, why not with meetings?

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  44. …So that’s not that high a percentage of every contact with somebody outside the U.S. government she had while she was in her office who works as an escort.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2) — 8/24/2016 @ 11:52 am

    FTFY.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  45. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/24/2016 @ 11:49 am

    Come on, buddy, the “half of all meetings” allegation pertains to meetings with people outside the government. For Brian Fallon to try to muddy the waters by shifting the goalposts by including all of her GOVERNMENT meetings is just plain shady.

    It’s 1,700

    meetings

    over her entire tenure (probably)

    with foreign government officials or emissaries

    in her office?

    vs.

    154

    meetings OR telephone conversations

    over something less than half her tenure

    with private individuals

    while in her office

    Not included in either count:

    Meetings or telephone conversations while not in her office

    Anything only with U.S. government officials

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  46. 52. Yes, you could say the same thing about somebody who met escorts. What about all the other people he met?

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  47. Sammy, you’re moving the goalposts.
    The initial outrage is in regards to her meetings with private groups/individuals — not government affiliated people.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  48. #38: It’s generally too late for ballot access. That’s something that has to start early in the year — one of the ways that laws are used to keep independents off the ballot.

    However, write-in campaigns are constitutionally protected. To count in CA, and probably elsewhere, all a candidate has to do is notify the Secretary of State of their name (and alternate versions) and that they want to have those votes counted.

    Now, it’s rare that a write-in campaign works, but they have from time to time. It generally takes a well-known (and pissed off) candidate, such as Senator Murkowski of Alaska.

    In this election
    , perhaps Mitt Romney would have a chance of winning some states this way. It would be interesting if he ran only in deep blue states that Trump cannot win, as an “acceptable alternative” to Hillary. If he won California, Massachusetts and New Jersey he would probably keep Hillary short of 270, and then the House would get to pick between Romney, Trump and Hillary.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  49. yes yes pervert Mitt Romney is almost certainly going to win several states through write-in votes

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  50. Other than that, he is stumping for BYU to get into the Big 12 aka the Cruz-land Conference. http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/news/byu-big-12-expansion-mitt-romney-gop-t-boone-pickens/hract8o28xu0102lnvadho8ja
    Also, make note of the creepy resemblance to Brit alt-rock icon Morrisey.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  51. Kevin M (25bbee) — 8/24/2016 @ 12:33 pm

    However, write-in campaigns are constitutionally protected.

    I read that in 7 states, theer is no write-in possibility for president.

    To count in CA, and probably elsewhere, all a candidate has to do is notify the Secretary of State of their name (and alternate versions) and that they want to have those votes counted.

    Thats forf an ordfinary elective office.

    However, in the case of a presidential election, you are not voting for president, but for Electors to vote for president.

    In California, 55 will be elected at large.

    Big question: Can an unpledged slate run?

    In this election, perhaps Mitt Romney would have a chance of winning some states this way. It would be interesting if he ran only in deep blue states that Trump cannot win, as an “acceptable alternative” to Hillary. If he won California, Massachusetts and New Jersey he would probably keep Hillary short of 270, and then the House would get to pick between Romney, Trump and Hillary.

    You need someone more suited to thise states if you want to carry them.

    I’ve been saying what might work is multiple candidates in multiple sattes, and the very fact of multiple candidates, with only one of them eligible for the House to vote for, would actually encourage people to vote for a third prty candidate so that their state’s third party candidate would beat a third party candidate favred in anotgher state. If anyone makes it into the House they are afavorite to become president.

    But where is all this?

    Everybody’s still hasn’t even passed Third Parties 101.

    A whole country of over 320 million people, and everyone is letting this election happen this way: a choice between Bad and Worse. (There is a difference of opinion as to which one is Bad and which one is Worse) Incompetence in many areas is a plus, and you have to factor in impeachment, indictment and health.

    Trump’s more likely to get impeached, Hillary’s more likely to get indicted, but probably only if it happens before Jan 20, and health is probably good enough for both of them, as what Hillary has got that tires her is a thyroid condition, which she actually disclosed, but doesn’t want people to talk about. She’s also taking Coumadin, or was a year ago. It is not the most up to date thing for that purpose, but she’s been taking it since 1998. She actually has the same problem Nixon had in 1974. It may also be that her blood pressure was lowered too much in the past. Trump’s just got slight memory deficits related to age.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  52. Rich Galen on Monday:

    http://www.mullings.com/08-22-16.htm

    •I think the whole full-court press to protect Hillary Clinton’s emails has little to do with Hillary Clinton. I think it has to do with keeping Bill Clinton – former President of the United States Bill Clinton – from being indicted for conspiracy to sell access to Hillary’s State Department.

    There are probably no Justocce de[artment guidelines preventing this.

    Hillary may become an indicted co-conspirator.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  53. http://nypost.com/2016/08/24/the-only-question-left-for-hillary-what-else-are-you-hiding/

    Yet the more we know about Hillary’s dirty deeds, the less sense it all makes. Even as the slimy details pile up, the central mystery remains unresolved: Why?…

    …Remember, all the things dogging her now, and giving Donald Trump ammunition, were things she did after losing to Barack Obama in 2008. She knew then she would run in 2016, so why was she so reckless?

    Indeed, I wrote soon after she agreed to join the Cabinet in late 2008 that a source in her camp told me she would serve through Obama’s first term only, resign to write a book and begin to run for president again.

    The easy answers about why she did what she did are too obvious: She wanted to get rich and she didn’t want anyone to know her business.

    That’s exactly what she did, except she also created all the problems that could lead to her being thwarted again.

    The easy answers about why she did what she did are too obvious: She wanted to get rich and she didn’t want anyone to know her business.

    Throw in her chronic paranoia and sense of entitlement, and she and Hubby Dearest had a rationale for thinking they were above the law. They’d escaped his impeachment trial, so they believed they had lifetime immunity.

    All true, but too simple, and it’s impossible to believe that’s all there is. There has to be more, probably something so big and awful, it would destroy her if it’s discovered.

    Remember, the Clintons were absolutely determined to get back to the White House, which would be the ultimate vindication of their public lives. Victory would make them unique in American history, so it doesn’t make sense that they would risk throwing it all away for the obvious — and ordinary — benefits already revealed.

    The added riches they collected through what I believe are corrupt actions weren’t necessary. They were getting legitimately rich on his and her book contracts alone.

    And what difference would another donation make to the foundation, which was already swimming in more money than it could spend?

    Because none of this adds up to a coherent explanation, I believe we are still in the dark about a hidden bombshell. There must be a secret Unholy Grail that explains her self-destructive behavior of stonewalling and lying.

    This is my explanation, at least of why they wanted to accummulate money.

    They needed to save money to pay for lawyers.

    Because whenever whatever it was came out, they’d lose all the ability to generate more money. So theyb had to get it in advance.

    As for what it is, well one thing, there’s the Waco fire.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  54. More from Rich Ggalen on Monday:

    (Talking about a possible indictment of Bill. His explanation as to what else there was iwould be presumably that it was Bill Clinton who was risking things. It actually does not answerr Michael goodwin’s question)

    •If Hillary is elected President, the largest rug in the history of the world will be woven under which to sweep this. If Trump is elected, the Ds will scream “POLITICS” and it will be very tough for a Trump-led Justice Department to pursue. ..

    •The play for the Ds is not to stop the demands for Hillary’s erased emails. The play is to slow walk those demands until Hillary wins the election and buries any hint of Bill’s illegally selling access to his wife’s staff.

    By the way, Bill Clinton did not use e-mail, at least officially. All e-mailing for him was done by Doug Band.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  55. after she’s elected she can have the nasty herpes-ridden rapist bumped off

    does anyone really think billy boi will live out her first term much less her second?

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  56. Or drop hints that Bill had finally wronged her for the last time and that she would not stand in the way of Bill taking the fall. This like a revelation of a chronic but treatable condition and yes (not to disappoint HF) a reliance on adult diapers might make her more sympathetic to certain living/legal voters.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  57. yes yes she can have her propaganda sluts at cnn do a lochte on him

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  58. I would imagine the widder Clinton has Bill’s Last October Surprise scheduled for nlt 10/10/16. Timing is everything.

    Rick Ballard (ce29ad)

  59. this idea that the creepy pedophiles on the International Olympics Committee are fit to stand in judgement of anyone’s ethics is very questionable i think

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  60. meanwhile Iran had to put the US Navy in its place AGAIN today

    but nobody ended up crying so this was a good day

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  61. Didn’t Justin Bieber run into problems, too, when he went looking for she-male hookers in Rio?

    nk (dbc370)

  62. back some weeks when people were in high dudgeoon,

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/did-mexicos-president-plagiarize-law-212000967.html

    narciso (732bc0)

  63. justin tries SO hard

    nobody respects his struggle

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  64. 65. happyfeet (28a91b) — 8/24/2016 @ 2:01 pm

    after she’s elected she can have the nasty herpes-ridden rapist bumped off

    No, she would pardon him, figuring any bad reaction, will last maybe two or three weeks, and blow over. She needs his counsel. Nobody knows how to cover up things like Bill. But if there’s no necessity theer won’t be a pardon. Marc Rich got his pardon on the last day. Maybe that would be too risky for Bill.

    Of course, first there’d have to be something moderately serious he might be guilty of – the real goal being to pardon him from what is extremely serious.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  65. Clinton spokesman, Brian Fallon called it “outrageous to “misrepresent” Clinton’s meetings with these donors as anything but coincidental

    One or two (or even three) are coincidence. Eigthy-five are a pattern. A crooked one.

    Bill M (906260)

  66. 55. Cruz Supporter (102c9a) — 8/24/2016 @ 12:32 pm

    Sammy, you’re moving the goalposts.
    The initial outrage is in regards to her meetings with private groups/individuals — not government affiliated people.

    I’m not moving the goalposts – the Clinton people did.

    Actually, there’s probably problems with meeting some of teh foreign government associated people.

    All of this, of course, is only shadows on the wall, that don’t tell us what really went on.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  67. i dunno i think if she’s elected her instinct will be to think of poor rapey geriatric bill as way more of a liability than an asset

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  68. failmerica lol

    what a debased slut she’s become

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  69. Well, the truth is, they didn’t give money in exchange for trivial favors.

    This was constituent service.

    Which, first of all, an executive branch official shouldn’t do – doesn’t it violate the Hatch Act or sometthing like that, and besides his was in Hillary Clinton’s political interest, and not Barack Obama’s – and secondly, the “constituents” were big contributors to the Clinton Foundation and other things Clinton.

    Revealed now is something like getting a soccer player in England an interview at the U.S. Embassy in London fast enough so he can go with his team. Senator Barbara Boxer refused to get involved because the soccer player had a criminal issue which caused him to need a visa (which they realized too late)

    It probably was not a matter of granting him a visa – that would happen, considering the circumstances, anyway – it was expediting it.

    Huma Abedin felt, at first, this was too touchy, but Bill Clinton’s top personal aide Doug Band presevered.

    Now Casey Wasserman did not give over $5 million to the Clinton Foundation for something like this.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  70. All of these donations by people seeking favors from the State Department were “unexpected.”

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  71. * and besides this was in Hillary Clinton’s political interest, and not Barack Obama’s.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  72. Barack didn’t know about any of this.
    He just read about it in the morning paper while eating his waffle like regular folks did!

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  73. The donations weren’t unexpected, but the need for a favor and the opportunity to do it probably were. They had thought maybe Hillary could become president. Secretary of State was unexpected till a month or two before it happened.

    What was the issue with the Gameen Bank in Bangkladesh?

    Hillary even made a speech warning the Bangladeshi government that the U.s. government wouldn’t like to see anything that would interfere with its operations. But she didn’t save the day for Muhammad Yunus (the 2006 Nobel Peace Prize winner) He had to resign from the bank’s board. This was the first, famous micro-credit bank.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  74. According to the linked document, the Trump Foundation also gave $1000 to “Huggy Bears.”

    This would explain the presence of ex-BCPD officers David M. Starsky and Ken Hutchinson in his security detail.

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  75. which constituents were involved with prince turki, mssr chagoury, mr. pinchuk,

    narciso (732bc0)

  76. Sammy,

    Sometimes Democrats behave as if they like money just as much as those dirty Republicans driving Mercedes to the Country Club do! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  77. I mean Prince Turki, Gilbert Chagoury and Victor Pinchuk were her “constituents.”

    They didn’t give large sums of money for little things like this.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  78. They voted for her in the Invisible Primary.

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  79. If it’s so legal and above board why doesn’t everyone in and out office do the same thing?

    crazy (d3b449)

  80. We’re going retro, kids.

    Are you ready for four years of ‘Maude‘?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  81. theyll need a better Adrienne Barbeau than Huma, though

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  82. When we get four years of Maude, we’ll get four years of fraud.

    But that’s okay, because the American people will rise up and demand that a Constitutional conservative be elected in 2020, just as they did after the first four years of President Barack as well as after the second four years of President Barack!
    (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  83. But I had heard that dirty deeds were done dirt cheap.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  84. As long as they also demand a limit on stupid references to stupid TV shows like, say, 100 or so per show per month.

    nk (dbc370)

  85. @94. Four years is a long, long time in dog years for a b-tch that age.

    Monday night on Kimmel when asked directly, “Is your health good?” — she did the classic Clinton ‘look-over-there’ diversion: ‘check my pulse’ etc.,… but she never directly answered the question with a crisp, definitive ‘yes.’

    The Ragin’ Cajun snaked his way across the cablers with venomous denials. And a spinner on a cabler Tuesday said with a straight face that even if she was ill, her running mate is more popular than her so there’s nothing to worry about.

    There is something off with her. It is subtle, but it is there. Blood clots; coughing fits; the stumbles and falls, the concussion…. dark glasses… the pillows. The strange long times off amidst a presidential campaign — and no press conference for 280 days, where thinking on your feet with the press in a quick Q&A setting is essential.

    They’re hiding something from the electorate. And it is not a ‘conspiracy’ to look into it, as some major news outlets and their on air reporters would have you believe.

    The 1960 Kennedy campaign vehemently and ‘vigorously‘ denied JFK was in poor health and did not have Addison’s Disease. They even produced ‘doctors’ notes.

    And they lied.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  86. @98

    What the hell’s wrong with you… Hillary opened a got dam jar of pickles on live TV.

    Can YOU do that!?

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  87. @99- “Squirrel!”

    Hillary opened a got dam jar of pickles on live TV. Can YOU do that!?

    Yes. So can my 86 year old mother. But her mind is mush when it comes to remembering the recipe for cole slaw– and those nuclear codes.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  88. Trump has no interest in nuclear physics, either. Milk of Magnesia is good enough for him.

    nk (dbc370)

  89. Even liberal late nite NeverTrump host Seth Meyers is starting to turn on Hillary.

    He can’t understand how she released ALL her emails and forgets she had another 15000+ turn up.

    Sociopath, he calls her. Not long ago Meyers was in the tank for her.

    Is the media turning?

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  90. But I had heard that dirty deeds were done dirt cheap.

    Dustin (ba94b2) — 8/24/2016 @ 5:06 pm

    When will you learn? Don’t take advice from musicians.

    I know I’ve warned others about this, especially women.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  91. OT question,
    Can anyone tell me what the fascination is with the story “Sweeney Todd”,
    and why high schools think it is a great musical to spend their time and energy on???

    MD in Philly (f9371b)

  92. Hillary has a 1 year warranty on her catheter apparatus. Castro gave her the apparatus and warranty for some of Bill’s cigars…

    mg (31009b)

  93. Hot flashes and mushroom clouds.

    Has anybody asked her directly when she went through menopause?

    It wasn’t out-of-bounds for Maude.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  94. Remember Carter? A lot of people say that if Hillary is President, the media will support her in a way that they would never support Trump. Thing is, they’re thinking of Billy and Obama. Billy and Obama are likable. Hillary is not.

    nk (dbc370)

  95. Too funny.

    KAC accepts invite to do ‘the interview’ on Maddow’s show. Then Maddow talks over her as she tries to answer for 20 minutes.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  96. This just in

    Obama is sending another $500 million in cash — mixed bills and mixed currencies — to Iran.
    In exchange — even though there’s no quid pro quo according to the WH — Iran will stop harassing the US Navy battle ships patrolling the Strait of Hormuz.

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  97. Doc @106, I don’t think anyone outside the Bolivarian Sucre revolution can explain much of anything that happens in American high schools these days.

    I just know whatever it is has nothing to math, the sciences, history, or learning the English language.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  98. Marketing, MD. The razor is its own thing on every internet site that sells sharp things, too. Walmart even. Like lightsabers from Star Wars. And unlike Star Wars, Tim Burton and Johnny Depp make good movies.

    nk (dbc370)

  99. theyll need a better Adrienne Barbeau than Huma, though

    urbanleftbehind (847a06) — 8/24/2016 @ 4:49 pm

    Ahhhhh yes. Adrienne “Buy my poster and you don’t have to hear me say ‘Eyes up here, Mister'” Barbeau.

    She’s actually 71 years old now. But she’s held up pretty well, even though the knockers are swingers nowadays.

    L.N. Smithee (b84cf6)

  100. At the risk of coming across as “Darned kids today, get off my lawn” old codger, I seriously doubt this:

    http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=95458

    “Navy Releases Results of Riverine Command Boat, Farsi Island Investigation

    …The report also noted that while the investigation did expose particular issues in relation to the training and day-to-day practices of a particular unit, it did not identify a significant problem in the overall Navy methodology and approach to training units and their leaders. Rather, the investigation highlights the importance of proper leadership and the adherence to sound naval doctrine…”

    Sorry. The deficiencies were just too extensive to buy that. Apparently we no longer have the corporate knowledge to operate in the Perssian/Arabian Gulf. The failures were just so obvious I could have spotted them. And did. And I’m not a ship driver, I was Intel. Restricted Line, not a line officer. I was not eligible to have a sea command. But I had some acquaintance with small boat operations and I could have done better. Starting with the mission briefing. No, before that.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  101. “Hillary Clinton is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I’ve ever known in my life.”

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  102. I’m going to head off some of the criticism I’m going to get by first saying Farsi island is not hard to avoid.

    I would have briefed that.

    Now let nature take it’s course.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  103. yes, this diagram in particular doesn’t make sense:

    http://www.navy.mil/management/photodb/webphoto/web_160630-N-RT381-001.JPG

    narciso (732bc0)

  104. PTS, that Lanny Davis suck-up email was hilarious.

    I only wish it wasn’t written to a serious contender for the top job.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  105. Maybe the recent virtue signaling was all the ReluctantlyHillary people needed to switch over. It will be interesting to see the electoral ledger accounting though between the blocs. Joe Walsh (the former congressman and 4th rate Savage clone) might be ready to disembark the Trump Train over the purported softening on immigration. PJM indicates Coulter may have regrets also.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  106. You really have to go out of your way. There’s a straight shot to Bahrain that avoids it entirely.

    And, no, I’m not suggesting anything conspiratorial. Occam’s Razor. A screw-up, pure and simple. But an entirely foreseeable and preventable screw-up. So why wasn’t it? It’s not an obnoxious question to ask. Officers who are responsible for sailors lives have the obligation to ask.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  107. Ok, maybe not a straight shot. But you could do it a different way. And you could station a major combatant along the way. Depending on how you define it, but with more to bring than a river boat. With a helo up.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  108. why would you take such a route, fraught with the posibility of running into iranian revolutionary navy assets in the first place,

    narciso (732bc0)

  109. Long time Clinton sycophants Lanny Davis, Leon Panetta, and Bill Richardson look like they might all be brothers or cousins.

    Though I think Bill actually defected to Team Obama during the primaries in ’08 when he read the tea leaves.

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  110. well specially the last two, ‘daryl and the other brother daryl’

    narciso (732bc0)

  111. @120

    Thanks, Steve

    PTS (ce7fc3)

  112. narciso, yeah, and wouldn’t it be nice if all three of them were as silent as the brother Daryl who didn’t ever say anything! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  113. Steve57 (41f53d) — 8/24/2016 @ 6:43 pm

    Isn’t the first rule of bureaucracy Cover Your Stern Quarters?

    kishnevi (1c16da)

  114. when they cast Gandolfini as Panetta, that’s when I noticed the resemblance,

    narciso (732bc0)

  115. Dirty Deeds (Done Dirt Cheap) (But It Ain’t Cheap)

    You’re havin’ trouble with the goddam Feds
    They’re puttin’ teh screws to youse
    You gonna beat the rap is what you said
    Here’s what you gotta do
    Pick up the phone
    She’s always home
    Call her any time
    Just ring
    36 24 36 hey
    She leads a life of crime
    Dirty deeds, but it ain’t cheap
    Dirty deeds, but it ain’t cheap
    Dirty deeds, but it ain’t cheap
    Dirty deeds but they ain’t done cheap
    Dirty deeds but they ain’t done cheap

    You got problems with your wastrel man
    You got a broken heart
    He’s double dealin’ with a fat intern
    That’s when excuses start, honey
    Pick up the phone
    She’s there alone
    Or make a social call
    Come right in
    She’s got the gin
    You’ll have yourselves a ball
    Dirty deeds, but it ain’t cheap
    Dirty deeds, but it ain’t done cheap
    Dirty deeds, but it ain’t cheap
    Dirty deeds, but it ain’t done cheap
    Dirty deeds, but it won’t come cheap

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  116. @kishnevi @129, I never belonged to the IRS or the EPA or Housing and Urban Development or the rest of the arse covering lightweights.

    I belonged to the Navy which maybe is the weak sister of the US armed forces did itself proud at Vella Gulf, Leyte, Sidra, and Preying Mantis.

    You do not want to get us riled, kishnevi.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  117. Aye aye sir. Did I ever mention USN decided I was too nearsighted to even steer a desk in the JAG Corps?

    kishnevi (1c16da)

  118. No, kishnevi. Touche.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  119. I just wasn’t in the arse covering part.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLTcVJGMBkQ

    Sanatan Shastarvidiya – Tulwar Part 1 of 3 (swordmanship)

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  120. Rick Ballard @68. Why October 10? And what October Surprise?

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  121. https://www.facebook.com/erictruro/videos/10154623654138984/

    A video from one of Hillary Clinton’s fundraisers has been made and leaked.

    http://990s.foundationcenter.org/990pf_pdf_archive/133/133404773/133404773_200912_990PF.pdf

    Cher and also Hillary was recorded.

    It seems like there’s been a lapse in Hillary Clinton’s maintanence of secrecy.

    Or maybe not:

    https://www.facebook.com/erictruro/videos/10154623654138984/

    Eric Martin on Facebook, August 21 at 6:27pm · Provincetown, MA · ..Hill-yes!!!!

    Could not record the whole speech, at 8:17 they said no more video

    New York Times story:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/24/us/politics/cher-hillary-clinton-donald-trump.html?smid=pl-share&_r=0

    Mrs. Clinton, who often discusses how well she was able to work with Republicans during her tenure in the Senate, took the stage and acknowledged former Representative Barney Frank, Democrat of Massachusetts, noting that he has been promoting a new bumper sticker.
    “I think it is something like, ‘Democrats Aren’t Perfect — but They’re Nuts!’” said Mrs. Clinton. “You understand that.”

    Sammy Finkelman (7c7fb2)

  122. Aye aye sir. Did I ever mention USN decided I was too nearsighted to even steer a desk in the JAG Corps?

    kishnevi (1c16da) — 8/24/2016 @ 7:51 pm

    Also, if it means anything, the Navy made a lousy call. It wouldn’t have been the first time, and I’m sure it won’t be the last.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  123. http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/court-orders-state-to-hand-over-new-clinton-emails-by-csept.-13/article/2600223

    Court orders State to hand over new Clinton emails by Sept. 13

    These “new” emails are emails Clintoon and her attorneys attempted to delete.

    This is a slam dunk case of obstruction of justice. Yes, yes, I know it won’t go anywhere even though a Department of Justice worth of its name has Hillary! dead to rights.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  124. James Comey lol

    corrupt FBI poofterboy looks increasingly bought and paid for like the Thai tranny hookerboys his agents bandy about like Pokemon cards

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  125. I haven’t had too many dealings with the FBI. I’ve had something to do with other federal Special Agents. My last interface with them is when my business partner’s girlfriend showed me a curious sheet of paper her father had used to send her a price list of Japanese stoneware. We were putting together the business plan for our restaurant. The opposite side of the handwritten price list was a SECRET NOFORN message from an Air Force intel squadron on Okinawa. She knew it was not something she should have, and I told her I’d take care of it as discreetly as possible.

    Her dad worked for a municipal utility district near Tokyo.

    I have no idea why a municipal utility district near Tokyo was using Air Force intel reports from Okinawa as scrap paper. But there it was. Clearly there was a breakdown that boggles the mind. I called the squadron that originated the message, double wrapped and locked the message in my gun safe, and soon AFOSI knocked on my door and retrieved it. My main contribution to the effort was to convince them that girlfriend’s dad didn’t read English and had no idea what he was dealing with. Given the state of Japanese law they couldn’t have caused him any trouble anyway.

    I had other dealings with AFOSI because when I was working as a defense contractor as I was working on an Air Force contract. So they took control of my clearance from the Navy.

    Long story short, I really do expect somebody at the FBI to fed up with this Clintoon BS sooner rather than later. Having worked extensively with NCIS, and having some experience with AFOSI, the Special Agents I knew in counter intel/security take national defense information seriously. If FBI counter intel types are of the same breed, and I have reason to suspect they are, they’ll take matters into their own hands, screw Comey.

    Steve57 (41f53d)

  126. Just a quick question: is anyone now talking about Hillary Clinton’s association with the Clinton Foundation on record being critiquing about Dick Cheney’s association with Halliburton?

    Is that what people imagine the stakes are here? Someone donated money to the foundation, so President Clinton might start a war in service of their economic interests? I guess it’s prudent to be looking at that possibility, though I have to wonder where the hell all that concern was in 2000.

    TR (2c5752)

  127. aargh, English:

    Is anyone now talking about Hillary Clinton’s association with the Clinton Foundation on record critiquing Dick Cheney’s association with Halliburton?

    TR (2c5752)

  128. stinkypig clinton uses the clinton criminal foundation to launder the bribes her no-talent daughter and herpes-ridden husband solicit from trash like saudi arabia

    then hillary does the policies to complete the sale

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  129. Policies like what?

    TR (2c5752)

  130. whaa?

    stinkypig doesn’t care what the policies are like

    nasty old diseased hillary just looks at the price tag on them

    everyone knows that

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  131. here’s an interesting look at how that nasty jew-hating pig sold away the uraniums for money while she was secretary of state

    happyfeet (28a91b)


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