Patterico's Pontifications

2/18/2016

“Yeah, I Guess So”: Donald Trump Supported Invading Iraq in 2002

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 6:59 pm

At 3:38:

HOWARD STERN: Are you for invading Iraq?

TRUMP: Yeah, I guess so . . . uh, you know, I wish it was — I wish the first time it was done correctly.

Congratulations to BuzzFeed on the find.

UPDATE: In tonight’s town hall Trump said “Senior Bush did the right thing” which is a little different from “I wish the first time it was done correctly.”

Even better: Trump likes ObamaCare’s mandate: “Well I like the mandate. Here’s where I’m a little bit different. I don’t want people dying on the streets.”

UPDATE x2: Something positive: Jim DeMint praises Ted Cruz.

95 Responses to ““Yeah, I Guess So”: Donald Trump Supported Invading Iraq in 2002”

  1. Also, he never said not to, before the war. Just a reminder.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  2. Tap tap tap

    Is this thing on?

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  3. It doesn’t matter to those that’s support him.

    JD (6aa855)

  4. That’s not FAIR, recording him like that! He said not to thousands of times, just never recorded. I know because he says so.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  5. Besides, it doesn’t matter.

    Supporting Trump is a giant finger to the world and there isn’t much that will make them change their, um, minds up about that.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  6. A third of the voters will support him no matter what he says or does. That’s all he needs.

    DRJ (15874d)

  7. If Trump had any class, he’d say this:

    “It’s been seven years since Bush left office, eleven since he last ran for office, and you Democrats are still running against him? Maybe I would have made a different call if I had been President then, but I wasn’t, he was, and he made it.”

    After saying that, he can then show he is a Republican by adding:

    “Saddam Hussein was a cancer and Bush removed him. Iraq was recovering but it was Obama and his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, with their Arab Spring, who ripped out the stitches and gave the whole Middle East gangrene.”

    Yeah, right. I might as well have stopped after saying “If Trump had any class”.

    nk (dbc370)

  8. The Trump supporter’s mind-set seems to be about “screw you all” than about anything in particular. I’ll let two of them explain.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  9. UPDATE: In tonight’s town hall Trump said “Senior Bush did the right thing” which is a little different from “I wish the first time it was done correctly.”

    Even better: Trump likes ObamaCare’s mandate: “Well I like the mandate. Here’s where I’m a little bit different. I don’t want people dying on the streets.”

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  10. 9. Still too incomplete to know what he might think, doubt he does much.

    You know those pensions you all were counting on:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-18/i-guess-its-food-stamps-400000-americans-jeopardy-giant-pension-fund-plans-50-benefi

    It does not matter what the law is there’s no money.

    DNF (755a85)

  11. i supported invading iraq in 2002

    i supported it with gusto and elan

    i know better now

    jebbio does not

    roobs does not

    happyfeet (831175)

  12. Unforeseen consequences, the worst being the election of Obama.

    nk (dbc370)

  13. one of the places where i depart with Mr. Trump is I hate the mandate

    it sucks cow boobies

    happyfeet (831175)

  14. Trump could say that, too. And it fits in Twitter.

    nk (dbc370)

  15. I know that I should have bought Amazon in 1997, sold in 1999, bought again in 2002 sold in 2008 and bought again in 2009. I’d be as rich as Trump if I’d done that without starting with Daddy’s money.

    But knowing that now doesn’t make me a stock guru.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  16. In Trump’s defense though, he should go to Rome, stand outside the Vatican and say “Pope Francis, tear down this wall!”

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  17. Kasich simply said he was “pro-Pope.”

    “This man has brought more sense of hope and more about the do’s in life than the don’ts,” Kasich said, referring to the Pope. “This guy has been so humble.”

    Kasich is a pooper

    no seriously he is

    happyfeet (831175)

  18. That’s right folks, If I don’t mind – it don’t matter. Trump’s the man, he’s unstoppable. That the word for the day: unstoppable.

    ropelight (6b59d0)

  19. So you’re for the mandate, ropelight?

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  20. i can’t find the broader context of the mandate thing

    happyfeet (831175)

  21. I need a definition. Mandate

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  22. Nope, I’m against it, 100%

    ropelight (6b59d0)

  23. i hate the mandate so much
    i never used helf insurance my whole life
    i tried when i quit smoking
    they denied me

    happyfeet (831175)

  24. papertiger, it’s “Have Obamacare-compliant health insurance or pay a penalty, ahem, pardon me, tax”.

    nk (dbc370)

  25. Nope, I’m against it, 100%

    But you…don’t care that Trump said he’s for it.

    I mean, it fits the pattern, so I shouldn’t be surprised. But the pattern is just getting so surreal.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  26. The individual mandate, papertiger.

    JD (6aa855)

  27. Because you know we’ve all been looking forward to street death. Because that way you’re ensured people will visit your cross alongside the road.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  28. I am curious if there is a number of leftist positions, or campaign donations that would make a Trump supporter no longer support him.

    JD (6aa855)

  29. “an unprecedented form of federal action… The federal government requires people to buy a good or service as a condition of lawful residence in the United States.”

    That’s what I was looking for. Thank’s JD.

    Well that does it. Tattoo is coming off/.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  30. Patterico, as you know I believe both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are ineligible for the presidency. That leaves only Trump, JEB, and Carson still in the GOP side of the race. And, JEB is lookin’ pretty shakey. Take your pick. I’m going with Trump.

    ropelight (6b59d0)

  31. At some point, I almost expect the camera to pan over to Rod Serling, who will offer us a forewarning about demogoguery in tonight’s episode of ‘The Twilight Zone.’

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  32. I’m unbranding. Make note of it. Spread the word.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  33. At first, I was thinking I’d vote for Trump if he was the nominee. The more I learn about him though, I’m thinking I’ll not vote.

    Or maybe vote for Bernie Sanders and be done with political life.

    Dejectedhead (ba8561)

  34. UPDATE x2: Something positive: Jim DeMint praises Ted Cruz.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  35. I’ve withdrawn all my financial support from the Trump campaign.

    Surprisingly easy to do.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  36. I’m unbranding. Make note of it. Spread the word.

    You’re screwing with us, right? Please don’t; I’m not in the greatest of moods after watching this tonight.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  37. Patterico–

    Liking Trump is not a left-brain thing. I don’t see how it is a right-brain thing either, but it must be.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  38. I was going to do a big post tonight about the Apple controversy (in brief, I don’t see what the big deal is and I think everyone is overreacting) but I’m just too depressed.

    Patterico (86c8ed)

  39. At first, I was thinking I’d vote for Trump if he was the nominee. The more I learn about him though, I’m thinking I’ll not vote.

    Or maybe vote for Bernie Sanders and be done with political life.

    Dejectedhead (ba8561) — 2/18/2016 @ 8:54 pm

    Isn’t voting for Sanders and being done with politics the same thing? That game is rigged. Hillary has her finger on the secret button under the roulette wheel.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  40. #37 Kevin M,

    Trump supporters would argue that support for him is a no-brainer, and I agree, though, probably not in the same context as they have in mind. (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  41. If he wins the nomination, I’ll be voting for Trump still.

    Because I’m a better Republican than you.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  42. Just like Romney and McCain.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  43. Isn’t voting for Sanders and being done with politics the same thing?

    Yes, yes it is. But I do think he’ll grab the Democratic nomination.

    Dejectedhead (ba8561)

  44. Just like if JD won the nomination, I’d vote for him.

    Better than Biden/Clinton/Sanders.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  45. I am reminded of Julius Caesar where Brutus and his group try to convince the Roman crowd that Caesar had to go for the good of the Republic. Antony countered with emotion and froth and won the day.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  46. I’ll grant you McCain, but Romney was made of better cloth.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  47. I’m all for a “Draft JD” campaign.

    nk (dbc370)

  48. Doe the mandate cover tattoo removal?

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  49. The mandate only requires you to carry health insurance. It doesn’t say you have to use it or that people need to accept it.

    Dejectedhead (ba8561)

  50. If I won the nomination, you would enjoy voting for me.

    JD (6aa855)

  51. Imagine full-throated conservatism with a populist bent, an overt disdain for the eatablishment, and a Trumpian I don’t give a f@ck what you think way of communicating. Lol

    JD (6aa855)

  52. You have potential, young man.

    And if the Pope gives you any guff, remind him that God put walls around Heaven and St. Peter is the gate keeper.

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  53. Me and the Pope are tight.

    JD (6aa855)

  54. Friends with commie pope from Argentina…

    / just making notes

    papertiger (c2d6da)

  55. I’ll grant you McCain, but Romney was made of better cloth.

    Kevin M (25bbee) — 2/18/2016 @ 9:08 pm

    Burlap or hemp cloth, they’re both pretty irritating on the skin.

    Bill H (dcdd7b)

  56. 30. Patterico, as you know I believe both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are ineligible for the presidency. That leaves only Trump, JEB, and Carson still in the GOP side of the race. And, JEB is lookin’ pretty shakey. Take your pick. I’m going with Trump

    ropelight (6b59d0) — 2/18/2016 @ 8:50 pm

    Thanks, ropelight, for telling us you are too ****ing pious to live.

    Couldn’t you have told us this earlier, and saved us a lot of trouble?

    Steve57 (f61b03)

  57. http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/pontiac/grand-prix-sj/1780499.html

    1971 Pontiac Grand Prix SJ for Sale

    $22,000 obo

    Description:

    Excellent 1971 Pontiac Grand Prix Model SJ. 455 High Performance engine,Turbo 400 Transmission, 12 Bolt 3.07 Differential.

    Build sheet (See Pictures) Lists following option numbers:

    That could, actually, be worth it.

    Sorry. Hijack off.

    Steve57 (f61b03)

  58. Illinois to rule friday to keep rafael cruz off ballot for being naturally born CANADIAN citizen and is illegal alien.

    trump our next president (e01173)

  59. “I’m all for a “Draft JD” campaign.”

    – nk

    I already pledged my vote to Ag80 on another thread. And I’m sticking to it, dammit! Don’t try to turn my head with your so-called “alternatives.”

    Leviticus (a8efb0)

  60. hemp cloth

    Pretty sure the hemp is Trump.

    Kevin M (25bbee)

  61. I’m not depressed, Patrick.

    The day Caligula forced the Roman Senate to make his horse a Senator, civilization matched the horror show of today’s Donald Trump.

    But Europe eventually recovered, kinda. Didn’t it? There was that whole Dark Ages thing for a few centuries, but ….

    Okay, now I’m depressed too.

    No, seriously: If Trump starts to win some winner-take-all primaries, I’ll join you in your pessimism. Until then, I’m taking my comfort in the fact that one on one against Cruz, Rubio, or even Bush, Trump loses in every poll.

    I’m confident that there is at least one alternative to Trump who’s willing to fight all the way to the convention, no matter what, and even if he’s tilting at windmills, by damn I’m betting against the windmill. Buck up.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  62. DRJ: After March 1 things get real, and a mere one-third is about to equate to zero delegates if someone else has more. Winner take all.

    If more than two other Republicans are still in the race, they’re handing the nomination to Trump. But I don’t think that will happen. South Carolina will turn this into a three-person race, which is important. But the winner of South Carolina is no more likely to swoop to the nomination than Newt Gingrich did in 2012.

    I can’t rule out the possibility that Trump will end up electing a Democrat. But he won’t be the Republican nominee, of that I’m still confident.

    Beldar (fa637a)

  63. 35. I’ve withdrawn all my financial support from the Trump campaign.

    Surprisingly easy do.

    papertiger (c2d6da) — 2/18/2016 @ 8to :58 pm

    Good on you. He’s not what we need.

    Steve57 (b30def)

  64. yes yes supporting mandates is no good

    he needs to go away

    and please to take your stone-faced eurotrash hooker wife

    happyfeet (831175)

  65. WHY HASNT TRUMP RUN FOR POLITICAL OFFICE IN NYC. Then at least his minions would know what he would bring to the table….NO, people are blindly voting for Trump because they are pissed at Barack. If not for Barack we wouldn’t have the corruption we see in DC.

    jrt for Cruz (bc7456)

  66. here is the explains about how manhattantrash donald lurvs him some mandate rape on the american people

    The most unpopular part of Obamacare now has a champion in the Republican presidential field. Via the Right Scoop, Donald Trump was asked on Thursday night by CNN’s Anderson Cooper, “If … there’s no mandate for everybody to have insurance, what’s to – why would an insurance company not have a preexisting – insure somebody with a preexisting condition?” Trump replied, “Well, I like the mandate. Okay, so here’s where I’m a little bit different. I don’t want people dying on the streets. And I say this all the time.”

    happyfeet (831175)

  67. Trump is a flip flopped…. Trump is exactly like Mitt Romney as a candidate…. Made big money on his own but what has be done for the people????? The JOB of a president is to work for the people. CAN TRUMP WORK FOR ANYONE BUT TRUMP?

    jrt for Cruz (bc7456)

  68. Don’t be an idiot, Romney has done much in the way of charity and helping to return businesses to solvency over the span of his career. He would stack up quite well against Cruz.

    Colonel Haiku (a28485)

  69. When we have a Ted Cruz running….. Everyone that votes for Trump is stupid/dumb. I don’t know that I can dumb down to vote for a right leaning democrat. Trump is a democrat at his core.

    If Trump is somehow picked, although talk of a brokered convention makes me think he may not be picked. The GOP is only using Trump to pick off Cruz. GOP fears Cruz the most. The GOP loves Hillary for President way more than Cruz or Trump. “Houston, we have a problem”.

    jrt for Cruz (bc7456)

  70. Suhweet GP SJ, Steve. A great car!

    Colonel Haiku (a28485)

  71. 68.Don’t be an idiot, Romney has done much in the way of charity and helping to return businesses to solvency over the span of his career. He would stack up quite well against Cruz.
    ………………………………..

    Romney is and WAS a political- Mormon Hack….. He played with his pencil, during debate, when pressed with ….Did Barack Call the 9/11 attack on Benghazi Terrorism…. Romney is below Trump in my book….

    jrt for Cruz (bc7456)

  72. Romney is the opposite of a political hack. He does not need politics; he did not hunger for a place in the public trough; and that’s why he did not go after the Presidency tooth and claw. For one reason. The other is that he is a decent man who could not bring himself to tussle in the mud with the Mau Mau and his media myrmidons.

    nk (dbc370)

  73. In an exclusive statement to Breitbart News, Pat Buchanan declared that Trump’s rise represents a rejection of 25 years of Bush Republicanism — an ideology which Buchanan says has destroyed America’s once-great manufacturing core, flooded the country with low-skilled workers, and drained the treasury with ill-advised foreign adventures in the Middle East.

    “In the GOP nomination race, the chickens of a quarter century of Bush Republicanism have come home to roost,” Buchanan told Breitbart. “Trump’s triumphs to date are due to his recognition of, and identification with, the Middle American revolt against Bush family ideology and policy, and what it has produced.”

    is so hard to argue with this

    if sick sad jebbio had more character instead of being bloated with hyper-entitlement and an ersatz sense of manifest bushfilth destiny

    this whole campaign season – it would have been much more easier to take it seriously i think

    happyfeet (831175)

  74. 72.Romney is the opposite of a political hack. He does not need politics; he did not hunger for a place in the public trough; and that’s why he did not go after the Presidency tooth and claw. For one reason. The other is that he is a decent man who could not bring himself to tussle in the mud with the Mau Mau and his media myrmidons.

    PLEASE!!! Then why run…… The worst President in history, BO….. Why run if you are only going to roll over and play dead…. He is a political HACK! 4 years of BO was bad enough….8 years has been murder ……Why even run MItt.

    jrt for Cruz (bc7456)

  75. Mitt Romney is nothing more than a speck of dust as it goes with bad politicians…. And probably the GOP’s first pick to run against Hildabeast in their brokered convention pick….. So there you Go boys…. pick another mushy middle loser.

    jrt for Cruz (bc7456)

  76. Pat Buchanan, lol.
    Three-time loser. Or is it four times?
    It was found he drove a Mercedes, in 1992, when he was talking buy American.
    He explained, “If a Mercedes was good enough for the Fuhrer it’s good enough for me”.
    (I might be wrong about the Fuhrer part.)
    That he hates the Bushes is not news. He helped get Clinton elected with his attacks against 41.

    nk (dbc370)

  77. Ross Perot got Clinton Elected…….. Trump may end up as a third party ticket and give us the Clinton’s again in the oval office.

    My 2010 Mercedes was a great car. My 2016 Mercedes may be my last Benz, as all the green features destroyed their product.
    The Germans aren’t so smart after all…

    jrt for Cruz (bc7456)

  78. And how did I forget? He almost succeeded in giving Al Gore Florida in 2000.

    nk (dbc370)

  79. Weak-suck, weak-minded bigotry lowers you, jrt. You do Cruz a disservice. I support him all the way, but I wouldn’t ever break bread with the likes of you.

    Colonel Haiku (a28485)

  80. yes yes Pat Buchanan is a pooper

    but he’s right in this narrow matter i think

    stupid stupid Jebbio he ignored the delphic wisdom

    and only now at the end does he know himself

    what America needs is a nice good cry

    happyfeet (831175)

  81. no, he didn’t, bush got clinton elected, his listleulss campaign was evidence of that. I feel the Gulf War, in retrospect was as bad as the Mexican War, a short little skirmish that wrought greater consequences down the road, we saved kuwait, ksm’s home and the kingdom and look how they repaid us, ‘but that’s not important right now’

    the kultursmog, and some tough sledding in the early years, made many believe that what we thought was right was wrong, this is how powerful it is, the plame wurlitzer, blowing abu ghraib all out of proportion, it’s the same playbook they tried in vietnam,

    narciso (732bc0)

  82. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/02/18/loser-pope-takes-on-donald-trump-suffers-massive-humiliation-slinks-off-to-vatican/

    check out this video of the Pope… John Boehner Crying in the background. I like that Trump is calling out the hypocrisy of this disgraceful Pope. Ive been a Catholic for 50 years and I seriously think I may leave the organization…. It is only a democrat front business today.

    jrt for Cruz (bc7456)

  83. we’re in the late republic phase, what was striking is how quickly the medici, broke down under megyn’s questionings,

    narciso (732bc0)

  84. 79.Weak-suck, weak-minded bigotry lowers you, jrt. You do Cruz a disservice. I support him all the way, but I wouldn’t ever break bread with the likes of you

    ………………..

    no skin off my back….. carry on…

    even Cruz has called Romney weak and a terrible candidate…. Its in his book…

    jrt for Cruz (bc7456)

  85. BO established a welfare system for Mexico here in the US in his 8 years. The Mexican Government controls all of its wealth….. The South American governments starve their people. Today the working middle class in the US is being crunched by BO to pay for welfare. The POPE should be angry with the South American governments NOT the US that is getting taken.

    jrt for Cruz (bc7456)

  86. re mandates and such, it seems to be that most every step taken after the medicare bill, has been been designed to disable the existing healthcare system, the hmo bill, emtala, kennedy kassebaum,

    narciso (732bc0)

  87. The meme that Cruz is a nasty guy is taking on a life of its own. Trump hung that moniker on him and his campaign’s dirty tactics and the refusal of his media flacks to answer direct questions are lending credence to the accusation. The latest example is the photo shopped picture of Marco Rubio shaking hands with Barack Obama. It’s a phonied up picture. It fits the pattern.

    When Cruz’s spokesman, Rick Tyler, was asked by Martha McCallum this morning on FOX NEWS, Why run this photo shopped picture? Tyler launched into an attack on Rubio and talked over her when she brought him back to the subject. He continued to dodge the question. Again and again he refused to answer the question and continued to attack Rubio. He was obnoxious, disingenuous, and obstinately refused to answer the question. Again and again Tyler’s intransigence only served to confirm the meme.

    I don’t think Ted Cruz is a nasty guy, but he’s running a nasty campaign, and it’s going to hurt him more than the unprincipled attacks hurt his opponents. Ted Cruz was an attractive candidate because he’s displayed courage, determination, and integrity in the Senate. He took on his opponents straight up, and fought the good fight, he was a refressing change from politics as usual. But now his campaign is playing dirty politics and it’s undercutting the foundation of forthrightness and honesty that brought Cruz to the forefront.

    Cruz doesn’t need to go dirty to beat Rubio, Rubio was toast the minute he signed on with the Gang of 8’s amnesty bill. All Curz has to do is hammer that point home and Rubio has no place to hide. Cruz’s real opponent is Trump and if the Cruz campaign spends its integrity attacking Rubio, the self-inflicted wounds will turn perception to reality and Cruz will be stuck as the guy who is too nasty for Americans to vote for.

    ropelight (ed34e6)

  88. it’s a good thing, ‘this round of beatings’ will be over tomorrow, but morale will not improve,
    a

    narciso (732bc0)

  89. surprise, to virtually no one,

    http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/breaking-fbi-says-possible-third-shooter-in-san-bernardino-killings/

    what strikes me about whole fbi/apple brouhaha, is they probably conducted their business on disposable phones, not the one in contention,

    narciso (732bc0)

  90. “Senior Bush did the right thing”

    [insert “please clap” joke here]

    What is the context of this statement? Was Donald Trump even talking about Iraq?

    One never knows with Trump. He might have been referring to Bush Sr. bailing out near Chichijima and avoiding the tender mercies of the IJA.

    JP (bd5dd9)

  91. 30. Patterico, as you know I believe both Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are ineligible for the presidency.

    You insist on believing in nonsense. Nothing you insist on believing in has a basis in reality. You might as well say, “Patterico, as you know I believe I’m Napoleon Bonaparte reincarnated…”

    That leaves only Trump, JEB, and Carson still in the GOP side of the race. And, JEB is lookin’ pretty shakey. Take your pick. I’m going with Trump.

    ropelight (6b59d0) — 2/18/2016 @ 8:50 pm

    So, if you’re going to be delusional, I guess Trump is as good a candidate as any other.

    But, is there anything he can d*** up that would break up the bromance?

    Steve57 (b30def)

  92. tonight Jeb has to drive so far he’ll only find static on the RADIO-O-O-O-O

    happyfeet (831175)

  93. 94. …RADIO-O-O-O-O

    happyfeet (831175) — 2/19/2016 @ 4:58 pm

    Did I hear a Black Eyed Peas reference?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rKsx6vqJZI#t=11

    Sun Kings

    Steve57 (b30def)


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