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2/10/2014

Michael Hiltzik Continues His Absurd Shilling for ObamaCare

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:44 am

Michael Hiltzik is the key ObamaCare shill at the L.A. Times, and he continues to carry their water by talking about how totally awesome it is that ObamaCare will cost 2.5 million jobs over the next ten years, because, you know, CHOICE!!!!

The CBO projects that [ObamaCare] will reduce the supply of labor, not the availability of jobs. There’s a big difference. In fact, it suggests that aggregate demand for labor (that is, the number of jobs) will increase, not decrease; but that many workers or would-be workers will be prompted by the ACA to leave the labor force, many of them voluntarily.

As economist Dean Baker points out, this is, in fact, a beneficial effect of the law, and a sign that it will achieve an important goal. It helps “older workers with serious health conditions who are working now because this is the only way to get health insurance. And (one for the family-values crowd) many young mothers who return to work earlier than they would like because they need health insurance. This is a huge plus.”

The next thing you know, he’ll be saying it’s awesome that the Web site didn’t work well, because of all the subsidy money we saved.

Wait, what? He actually did say that??

[T]he problems of the healthcare.gov website reduced enrollments, cutting the government’s bill for premium subsidies.

Woo-hoo!

In twenty years, I guess the argument will be that the severe deterioration of our health care system has contributed to the early deaths of millions of Americans, thus cutting down significantly on overall health care costs.

Why, there’s simply no end to the benefits of this wonderful law, comrades!

68 Comments

  1. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!

    Comment by orcadrvr (2977be) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:52 am

  2. Regular commenters here know Hiltzik for the low-brow, two-faced, belly crawlin’ jackass he’s proved himself to be. Management at the LA Times protected his job after he got caught using multiple sock puppets to sing his praises. Patterico outed him.

    Hiltzik isn’t a journalist by any honest definition, he plays the house organ for Obama’s West Coast Hallelugah Choir.

    Comment by ropelight (eb4a46) — 2/10/2014 @ 9:05 am

  3. This sudden leftist praise of non-work generating freedom to become a poet puts me to mind of something once said by John Gardner:

    An excellent plumber is infinitely more admirable than an incompetent philosopher. The society that scorns excellence in plumbing because plumbing i a humble activity and tolerates shoddiness in philosophy because is is an exalted activity will have neither good plumbing nor good philosophy. Neither its pipes nor its theories will hold water.

    So we now have the Democrats praising the fact that any plumber who does notenjoying standing knee-deep in sewage can abandon his trade to become a poet, artist or philosopher because it is more fulfilling ot their soul. Neither their pipes nor their theories hold water!

    Comment by Anthony Benvin (105f3f) — 2/10/2014 @ 9:14 am

  4. [T]he problems of the healthcare.gov website reduced enrollments, cutting the government’s bill for premium subsidies.

    LOL!

    Wow. Baghdad Bob just called to complain he might be laying it on a little thick.

    They just completely contradicted the ‘stimulus’ argument they have used to justify ridiculous government spending.

    Comment by Dustin (303dca) — 2/10/2014 @ 9:21 am

  5. I can think of no better benefit than Hiltzik losing his job. No doubt, though, he’d probably end up on the taxpayer dime spewing his idiocy to college students at some Cal State.

    Comment by MikeHs (1a2353) — 2/10/2014 @ 9:39 am

  6. Why not challenge him to drop his current medical coverage provided by the L.A Times and replace it with ObamaCare coverage. If he won’t then he needs to explain why. My guess he would reject the opportunity to join the fabulous ObamaCare program. After all it is for the little people not members of the MSM

    Comment by Airedale (24109c) — 2/10/2014 @ 9:40 am

  7. Hiltzik is a complete ideological tool. I’ve not been able to get past the second paragraph of most of his columns. Reading an entire Hiltzik column is nasty job–stupidity is contagious–but I’m glad someone has the stones to do it and report on it.

    Comment by Skeptical Voter (12e67d) — 2/10/2014 @ 10:03 am

  8. This Congressional Act is just full of benefits for people that didn’t bother reading it. It will increase State revenue by seizing assets of people forced into Medicaid, It’ll reduce world population by increasing sterility in the population (So that only “the right kind” of people breed), and it’ll help transition jobs from old people to young people through early retirements (there is no downside to this because receiving government subsidies is actually just free money*).

    * Free money is defined as money that is freely printed.

    Comment by DejectedHead (a094a6) — 2/10/2014 @ 11:32 am

  9. The esteemed Mr Hiltzik wrote:

    The CBO projects that [ObamaCare] will reduce the supply of labor, not the availability of jobs. There’s a big difference. In fact, it suggests that aggregate demand for labor (that is, the number of jobs) will increase, not decrease; but that many workers or would-be workers will be prompted by the ACA to leave the labor force, many of them voluntarily.

    Uhhh, wasn’t Mr Hiltzik supposed to have been the business columnist for the Times? Isn’t he s’posed to have at least a rudimentary knowledge of economics and business?

    Now, if the supply of labor contracts, because workers will want to work fewer hours — a concession, though they don’t realize it, that what conservatives have said about extending unemployment compensation keeps people from looking for work is correct — but the demand for labor does not, then the claim is that Obumblecare will actually create new jobs, and raise wages (as the demand for labor runs up against reduced supply). Yet, astonishingly enough, none of the left are even attempting to make this point.

    Why? Because they know that it’s not true, and those on the left with even a trace of self-respect don’t want to be that obviously wrong.

    Comment by The economist Dana (3e4784) — 2/10/2014 @ 11:55 am

  10. You can’t teach this level of Stupid. God help us.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (4a0ebc) — 2/10/2014 @ 12:03 pm

  11. And if you’re not working and have no money, you can’t eat much!! So that solves the obesity problem.

    Comment by Patricia (be0117) — 2/10/2014 @ 12:08 pm

  12. Where do I sign up to vomit?

    Is there a line?

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/10/2014 @ 12:47 pm

  13. Does something written by Hiltzik require careful, point-by-point consideration, or can I just proceed to the puking?

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/10/2014 @ 12:54 pm

  14. At times like these, I take solace in the fact that there might not be an Internet Patterico without the LA Times and its employees like Michael Hiltzik.

    Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 2/10/2014 @ 12:57 pm

  15. Years ago, while responsible for an Air Force computer network, a subordinate crashed our primary router resulting in complete network failure. I told him not to worry and that I would record it in his annual Enlisted Performance Report as “reducing network congestion by 100%.” It’s all how you report it.

    Comment by Lorem Ipsum (1c5f70) — 2/10/2014 @ 1:01 pm

  16. 14. At times like these, I take solace in the fact that there might not be an Internet Patterico without the LA Times and its employees like Michael Hiltzik.

    Comment by DRJ (a83b8b) — 2/10/2014 @ 12:57 pm

    That’s deep.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/10/2014 @ 1:13 pm

  17. Comment by The economist Dana (3e4784) — 2/10/2014 @ 11:55 am

    if the supply of labor contracts….but the demand for labor does not, then the claim is that Obumblecare will actually create new jobs, and raise wages (as the demand for labor runs up against reduced supply).

    No such thing will happen. When the supply of labor contracts, so does the demand for labor, and vice versa.

    They are always in balance (they can never get very much out of balance.)

    Unemployment reflects either the length of time it takes to get a job, or structural unemployment, in which nobody wants to hire certain people, or there is extensive discrimination against them.

    You cannot “save” jobs, and people filling jobs will not reduce vacancies.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 2/10/2014 @ 1:14 pm

  18. ‘people filling jobs will not reduce vacancies’ and people leaving jobs does not create net vacancies.

    That works in practice, but as one Marxist said to the other, “can it work in theory?”

    The CBO is still confused. and they are assuming people will drop jobs because the Obamacare policies are good and affordable.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 2/10/2014 @ 1:19 pm

  19. I think highly of you. This doesn’t change things?

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/10/2014 @ 1:28 pm

  20. This isn’t rocket science. Two liberal arts degrees from loopy Northeastern universities do not amount to a real education. Being a journalist is not actual experience. Writing for the L.A. Times is tantamount to swimming in a punch bowl of feces and calling it fun. Hiltzik is exactly who his resume says he would be: A self-parody of a liberal Democrat waste case. Dog bites man.

    Comment by Lawrence Westlake (4fc30a) — 2/10/2014 @ 1:43 pm

  21. Before Little Mikie Hiltzik got busted for his silly sock puppetry, he had been busted by the Times for hacking into his colleagues’ private email accounts when he was working at the Times’ Moscow bureau.

    Hugh Hewitt’s radio interview take-downs of Hiltzik throughout the years are epic to listen to.

    Comment by Elephant Stone (9d30f3) — 2/10/2014 @ 2:55 pm

  22. “The CBO is still confused.”

    Sammy – It’s over their head or they just don’t understand or it could be a little of both or maybe neither. Just throw something out there for sh_ts and giggles.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/10/2014 @ 2:58 pm

  23. Nimitz is Zumwalt spelled backwards.

    And with different letters.

    Just thought I’d point that out for Mr. feets.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/10/2014 @ 3:05 pm

  24. In case he didn’t pick up on the Nimitz-Zumwalt vortex.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/10/2014 @ 3:08 pm

  25. If you quit a job (or work less) that paid for your healthcare, then you either have to enroll in medicaid or buy a bronze plan, and neither is any incentive to quit your job. Seniors on medicare were home free (as far I know) before ACA.

    It boggles the mind that ACA supporters believe a large number of workers will just walk away from their job in THIS economy. The older folks are postponing retirement or using their retirement savings to pay bills and such. If you’re working ONLY to receive healthcare, then you’re situation isn’t typical for most Americans.

    Comment by lee (b2dfc0) — 2/10/2014 @ 3:23 pm

  26. The anti-jobs party is on the defensive.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/10/2014 @ 3:33 pm

  27. Another push out of teh Employer Mandate! TFG is just making it up as he stumblebums along.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (4a0ebc) — 2/10/2014 @ 3:34 pm

  28. “No such thing will happen. When the supply of labor contracts, so does the demand for labor, and vice versa.

    They are always in balance (they can never get very much out of balance.)”

    The above is a very odd description of the labor market written by somebody who has obviously never witnessed labor demand/supply imbalances which occur with some frequency in many sectors of our economy.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/10/2014 @ 3:40 pm

  29. Sammy… read some Milton Friedman!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (4a0ebc) — 2/10/2014 @ 4:02 pm

  30. indoctrinating the next round of drones,

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/02/unreal-anti-capitalist-lego-movie-makes-president-business-its-chief-villain-video/#disqus_thread

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/10/2014 @ 4:03 pm

  31. Hiltzik continues to plumb the depths of the unbelievably numb.
    Winning!

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (4a0ebc) — 2/10/2014 @ 4:04 pm

  32. the idiocy at the local level is not that blatant on the West Coast, or is it;

    http://twitchy.com/2014/02/10/chilling-nyc-mayor-bill-de-blasios-state-of-the-city-address-would-make-lenin-proud/

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/10/2014 @ 4:19 pm

  33. The Democrat shills spouting this “who needs work, anyway?” nonsense have LOST THEIR MINDS …

    MOST Americans are not trust-fund babies, and MOST of us have monthly rent or mortgage payments — which means *MOST* of us hoi polloi need jobs. Like, NEEEED them. For the food-on-the-table, roof-over-our-heads necessities, not just “to keep employer-sponsored insurance”.

    (WHERE do these barking idiots come from?)

    Comment by A_Nonny_Mouse (57cacf) — 2/10/2014 @ 5:01 pm

  34. hey, these people are stupid enough to deify the known mass murderer Ché Guevara, don’t put anything past them.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (4a0ebc) — 2/10/2014 @ 5:15 pm

  35. Shilling? Pah, he’s barely worth thruppence.

    Comment by Milhouse (b95258) — 2/10/2014 @ 5:17 pm

  36. Obama has now postponed the business mandate for another year. They must really be worried about the midterm, and the chances of Obamacare.com working any time soon.

    Comment by Kevin M (dbcba4) — 2/10/2014 @ 5:25 pm

  37. oh, yes… yes, they are.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (4a0ebc) — 2/10/2014 @ 5:26 pm

  38. It shouldn’t take too much insight to ask if ObamaCare is so good, why do they keep delaying it.

    But then again, apparently people complained that Katy Perry “changed the lyrics” to the song “Yesterday” by changing from “I’m not half the man I used to be” to “I’m not half the girl I used to be”.
    Such a complaint doesn’t show much insight. Do some really think it would have been better for Perry to sing she was “not half the man she used to be”?
    Gee, that would start some discussion.

    Comment by MD in Philly (f9371b) — 2/10/2014 @ 5:58 pm

  39. We – America – have been brought low by the Democrat Party. There is no destructive behavior they won’t embrace. There is no amount of lawlessness that they’ll draw the line at. And that includes every “leader” they get their marching orders from.

    Comment by Colonel Haiku (4a0ebc) — 2/10/2014 @ 6:18 pm

  40. ‘It’s just like a box of chocolates, with a spring surprise,

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/10/2014 @ 6:19 pm

  41. Via Zero Hedge:

    “What jumps out at you from the data concerning war is very simplistic – war does not unfold when everyone is fat and happy.

    Turn the economy down and war rises just as we are seeing wide-scale civil unrest.

    These trends go hand in hand.

    Government often NEEDS war because when the people get angry, they go after government.

    In self-defense, government ALWAYS needs to blame some other country or group.”

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:08 pm

  42. You really cannot make this sh#t up:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/10/House-GOP-Leaders-Tie-Restoring-Veterans-Pensions-to-Debt-Ceiling-Increase

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:18 pm

  43. 33. I’m pretty certain the Ministry of Truth replied when given their latest marching orders:

    “You have to be sh#tting us. This is all you’ve got? You want us to sell this?!

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:22 pm

  44. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_For_You

    “Nathan For You is an American docu-reality comedy television series starring Canadian comedian Nathan Fielder. The series was co-created by Fielder and premiered on February 28, 2013 on the American cable television network Comedy Central.[1] In the series, Fielder plays an off-kilter version of himself, who tries to use his business background (a commerce degree from the University of Victoria (UVIC) in 2005) and life experiences to help struggling companies and people, offering them strategies that no traditional business consultant would dare to attempt.”

    Comment by SarahW (267b14) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:36 pm

  45. Totals of US citizens abroad renouncing their citizenship up 221% in 2013 over 2012.

    Its only the poor banging on the door to get in.

    “Where’s all my free stuff?”

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:36 pm

  46. Pretty sure SB was in on it.

    Comment by SarahW (267b14) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:36 pm

  47. shoot, wrong thread.

    Comment by SarahW (267b14) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:37 pm

  48. 36. Comment by Kevin M (dbcba4) — 2/10/2014 @ 5:25 pm

    Obama has now postponed the business mandate for another year.

    There were news reports over the weekend – apparently quite serious – that the Administration was considering allowing the individual policies which had een allowed to be renewed for one more year in 2013, to be extended fror another 3 years.

    Making sure nobody gets any cancellation notices before the 2016 Presidential election.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (c08134) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:45 pm

  49. Also, “Businesses would also be barred from cutting their workers in order to fall under the [100 worker] threshold.”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/regwatch/healthcare/197974-administration-delays-obamacare-mandate-for-small-businesses

    Comment by Kevin M (dbcba4) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:53 pm

  50. It shouldn’t take too much insight to ask if ObamaCare is so good, why do they keep delaying it.

    Better question: they keep pushing back past the next election; what else are they hiding?

    Comment by Kevin M (dbcba4) — 2/10/2014 @ 7:54 pm

  51. The suspension of the employer mandate today has caused thousands to be trapped in “job lock” instead of pursuing their dreams as barristers at Dumb Starbucks. Free the “Wage Slaves !”

    Comment by Mike K (cd7278) — 2/10/2014 @ 8:10 pm

  52. This should make it easier to repeal if there was the will to do it. Each delay means there will be less to undo and less disruption in the medical marketplace. C’mon R’s!!!! Letting these D criminals continue to slide money to their cronies and bundlers for 3 more years for nothing in return is bad bad bad.

    Comment by elissa (8927cd) — 2/10/2014 @ 8:11 pm

  53. The Obama admin needs to s#it or get off the pot with respect to Obamacare. Three more years?? America may be stupid but not that stupid I don’t think.

    Comment by elissa (8927cd) — 2/10/2014 @ 8:16 pm

  54. America may be stupid but not that stupid I don’t think.

    hate to destroy your last illusion, but yes we are that stupid, and then some.

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 2/10/2014 @ 9:15 pm

  55. 54. America may be stupid but not that stupid I don’t think.

    hate to destroy your last illusion, but yes we are that stupid, and then some.

    Comment by redc1c4 (abd49e) — 2/10/2014 @ 9:15 pm

    Yeah, getting over that last hurdle was tough for me, too.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/10/2014 @ 11:57 pm

  56. Hillary! has a realistic shot in 2016.

    Mull that one over.

    Comment by Steve57 (71fc09) — 2/10/2014 @ 11:59 pm

  57. 52-lol thinking that team r has the nuts to fight the man.

    Comment by mg (31009b) — 2/11/2014 @ 3:13 am

  58. she kind of warnedus;

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/10/Video-Duck-Dynasty-Patriarch-Leads-Roster-of-Prominent-Figures-Wishing-Sarah-Palin-Happy-Happy-Happy-50th-Birthday

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/11/2014 @ 4:15 am

  59. Elisa – why would you think we are not that stupid?

    Comment by JD (b4e6c6) — 2/11/2014 @ 6:34 am

  60. Mr Finkelman needs to go back to school:

    if the supply of labor contracts….but the demand for labor does not, then the claim is that Obumblecare will actually create new jobs, and raise wages (as the demand for labor runs up against reduced supply).

    No such thing will happen. When the supply of labor contracts, so does the demand for labor, and vice versa.

    They are always in balance (they can never get very much out of balance.)

    Your statement is true only if there is full employment; as long as there are unemployed people out there — not just the officially unemployed, but the currently discouraged “workers” — the supply of labor can expand to meet the demand. The sticking point is the wage.

    Comment by The economist Dana (3e4784) — 2/11/2014 @ 6:45 am

  61. Hilzik is a rotten nazgul who should be pelted with rotten fruit

    http://ricochet.com/main-feed/Obamacare-Killed-My-Sister

    so say we all.

    Comment by narciso (3fec35) — 2/11/2014 @ 6:48 am

  62. ==Elisa – why would you think we are not that stupid?
    Comment by JD (b4e6c6) — 2/11/2014 @ 6:34 am==

    JD- Here’s why I think that: from day one (even before ACA was rammed through and even going back to the Hillary healthcare debacle) the American public generally has been cautious, reticent and quite cynical about “government healthcare reform”. The polls have been pretty consistent about this and the website fiasco and other recent events that have affected people personally have fortified the public’s distrust. The administration’s lies and the full throated cheerleading by the media have not changed this. I think the public mostly gets it but they can’t fix this by themselves. They need congressional help to get rid of Obamacare.

    “when seen in totality, it appears that ObamaCare is unraveling like a cheap sweater. But though the administration is trying to limit the number of those who are inconvenienced or hurt by the law, this latest decision is one more shred of evidence that proves the assumptions about the law’s popularity were completely unfounded. Democrats assumed that once the law began to be implemented the benefits it distributed would quickly make it as beloved as Social Security or Medicare. But it is now abundantly clear that the numbers of ObamaCare losers may well equal or exceed the total of those who will benefit from it. No amount of lawlessness on the part of a president who lacks the constitutional power to enforce only the laws or the parts of laws that he likes can conceal the enormity of the ObamaCare fiasco.”

    http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2014/02/10/more-obamacare-delays-wont-save-dems/

    Comment by elissa (b0f819) — 2/11/2014 @ 9:57 am

  63. 61. The actual original link (on Ann Coulter’s web site)

    GUEST COLUMN: OBAMACARE KILLED MY SISTER by Doug Graham

    He’s right.

    She should have gone to a doctor. But she toughed it out, as many people do, until her new coverage would kick in on February 2.

    This illustrates the importance of unscheduled doctor visits.

    She had, it turned out, a badly blocked gall bladder that had become highly infected. Her body went into septic shock just two days before the new policy kicked in. Obamacare and its website caused a one month gap in health care coverage.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/11/2014 @ 10:04 am

  64. If she lived in Maryland, it might have been the state web site.

    But Obamacare did cause a gap in coverage, and his sister made a fatal mistake.

    You can also blame high charges to uninsured people, and un-transparent pricing.

    It is even possible she might have gotten emergency care paid for.

    And then she anyway went to the emergency room before her new policy kicked in .

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/11/2014 @ 10:10 am

  65. Her heart stopped beating because some of what they do to help the kidneys, hurts the heart.

    Another hospital might have done better, at least monitoring her more.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/11/2014 @ 10:12 am

  66. What you get with single payer:

    Ultimatum: ‘Give us Insurance or We’ll Abandon the Hospital’ Ultimatum to be presented to the government at 10 a.m. Tuesday over malpractice cancellation at Hadassah hospital.

    Comment by Sammy Finkelman (d22d64) — 2/11/2014 @ 10:18 am

  67. “What you get with single payer”

    Sammy – What does that have to do the U.S. and medical malpractice insurance in the U.S.?

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 2/11/2014 @ 10:40 am

  68. Just reading these comments is cathartic. I have to pretend I’m reading The Onion for Hiltzik articles in the Times.

    Comment by StephenB (4d37c1) — 2/11/2014 @ 1:07 pm

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