Super Bowl Open Thread
Me, I’m boycotting the game because I can’t bear to be subjected to this disgusting propaganda:
Life. An appalling concept.
But if you’re watching, and yet will somehow also be on the Internet, then feel free to discuss it below.
It’s beyond ironic that the feminist groups got their panties in a twist about this sweet and positive spot between a mother and son, and yet Not One Word about Pete Townshend, registered sex offender since 2003 in England, playing at the half-time show with The Who.
Glad they’ve got their priorities in order.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 2/7/2010 @ 2:46 pmLife. An appalling concept.
Perhaps our Legislatures should redefine execution (see post below) in the Death-Penalty statutes as a “Post Partum Abortion”?
AD - RtR/OS! (f9cda3) — 2/7/2010 @ 2:51 pmNo Leftist judge would have any problem with allowing an abortion to proceed.
At least Pete has some freaking talent…
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/7/2010 @ 2:55 pmGay good. Motherhood bad. Man love boy good. Mom love life bad.
highpockets (40ce09) — 2/7/2010 @ 3:08 pmThe pro-aborts really embarrassed themselves going after this ad. Hopefully they’ll keep the controversy raging until November so their death-dealing Congressional facilitators can be swept out of office.
Northeast Elizabeth (1add15) — 2/7/2010 @ 3:20 pmThe feminists are still having trouble finding the right dead baby for their pro-abortion commercial to say “my mom made the right choice.”
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 3:25 pmWow! Decisions Decisions. That call must have really been hard for the CBS ad department to make. The ad being so controversial. And all that.
elissa (04a2a9) — 2/7/2010 @ 3:27 pmJehmu Green, President of Women’s Media Center group who loudly protested the ad along with NOW, said, before even seeing the ad,
“We are going to continue [fighting] very aggressively, whether it is the Super Bowl or any network that shows sexism and bias towards women this way.”
Stop making women look stupid, Jehmu.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 2/7/2010 @ 3:30 pmWell, you have to give them extra-stupid credit, it will make viewing this commercial all the easier.
Comment by daleyrocks — 2/7/2010 @ 3:25 pm – made me lol
Vivian Louise (643333) — 2/7/2010 @ 3:32 pmThe feminists are still having trouble finding the right dead baby for their pro-abortion commercial to say “my mom made the right choice.”
I missed this – brilliant, daley!
Dana (1e5ad4) — 2/7/2010 @ 3:36 pmWe just saw this ad on CBS – what the hell are they so upset about? My wife is adamantly pro – choice, and she has no idea what they’re screeching about either.
Dmac (539341) — 2/7/2010 @ 3:58 pmPro-abortionists keep insisting that they’re not that, that they’re only pro-choice, and they wish women didn’t choose to have abortions so often. They keep telling us they want abortion to be “legal, safe, and rare”. Anyone who opposed this ad can no longer make such claims. The only possible ground for opposing this ad, or for regarding it as at all controversial, is if you are pro-abortion, and want to see it remain common.
Milhouse (ea66e3) — 2/7/2010 @ 4:00 pmIt’s an unfocused but not particularly compelling argument by anecdote I think.
Some babies aren’t miracle babies and what they do is die along with the mom in childbirth.
happyfeet (713679) — 2/7/2010 @ 4:15 pmlast i heard on the issue, Pete was a victim of molestation, and the “pron” found on his computer was due to his research on the issue for an article.
i also seem to remember him being found innocent of charges on the subject, but i am open to information to the contrary.
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 2/7/2010 @ 4:32 pm“Some babies aren’t miracle babies and what they do is die along with the mom in childbirth.”
feets – What are the current stats on that?
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 4:33 pmThe second Tebow ad is even more disgusting propaganda than the first. The horror!
Dana (1e5ad4) — 2/7/2010 @ 4:34 pmI’m not trying to start an argument daley… that’s just my appraisal of the commercial. I thought about the commercial today with my Hot Air friends.
It’s just an anecdote. Other anecdotes could also be commercialized.
I don’t think it’s very persuasive, and I think you’re on the money with respect to directing the conversation towards questioning how often abortion may or may not be necessary to save the life of a mother.
I think maybe a commercial about that would have been more compelling. Or if they had added some factyness about that to this one.
happyfeet (713679) — 2/7/2010 @ 4:39 pmJehmu’s tweet made no sense. How is this ad “homophobic”?
@jehmu
“Benign Tebow ad airs.Hides FOTF anti-choice,homophobic agenda.WMC response online 2nite w/G Steinem @ShelbyKnox http://bit.ly/ustreamwmc“
Chris (c7c0c6) — 2/7/2010 @ 4:39 pmhappyfeet,
The risk of death from complications of pregnancy has decreased approximately 99% during the twentieth century, from approximately 850 maternal deaths per 100,000 live births in 1900 to 7.5 in 1982. However, since 1982, no further decrease has occurred in maternal mortality in the United States.
More here.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:00 pmi also seem to remember him being found innocent of charges on the subject, but i am open to information to the contrary.
I think he was put on probation and then cleared of all charges in the matter. Paul Stukey (of Peter, Paul and Mary) didn’t have the same outcome, however. Truly a creepy guy.
Dmac (539341) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:15 pmAnd you think CBS would have allowed that to run?
DRJ (84a0c3) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:16 pmYou guys can joke all you want. But my wife’s first pregnancy resulted in a miscarriage. We have two beautiful adult daughters. But I’m haunted to this day by what might have been. So if the Tebow ad bothers you–go pound sand.
Mike Myers (3c9845) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:17 pmThere is just so much unintended irony. Heh. From NYT,
The spot, as expected, featured the college football star Tim Tebow and his mother, Pam, who are both against abortion. The spot never used the word “abortion,” and the only nod to the organization’s anti-abortion stance was the sign off at the end, “Celebrate family. Celebrate life.”
To be consistent, we can then assume pro-abortionists neither celebrate family, nor celebrate life.
Dana (1e5ad4) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:21 pmWho dat comin’ back.
Dwight Freeney on the sidelines in a cast (or something — getting worked on by the trainers)
Pro aborts just made themselves look like TOTAL a-holes by their reaction to an ad they haven’t seen.
I had to watch it twice — thaks TIVO — to even get the point.
SAINTS SCORE
Jaime (446454) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:27 pm@happyfeet:
Almost all fatal or nearly fatal pregnancy complications occur around the time of birth and cannot be forseen earlier. It is extremely rare for a first trimester patient to have conditions suggesting significant increased risk of catastrophic complications.
I have had many patients advised by doctors to abort for absurd reasons such as age (one was 37), multiparity (e.g. 4 kids without complications), surgical deliveries (3 C-sections), previous miscarraiges (maybe the most common rationale I’ve heard…abort so you don’t lose this one!?).
Teflon Dad (287a17) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:28 pm“I’m not trying to start an argument daley”
feets – Scuze me. I thought you were going to make a compelling argument since you said the ad didn’t have one. Plus it seems like you’ve been in argument starting mode all weekend. You didn’t give notice you stopped.
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:29 pmMy Hot Air friend Vera already explained to me about the decreased mortality, Dana. I’m sold.
happyfeet (713679) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:32 pmSorry daley… but I think I’m zausted with the contrariness.
Thank you all for putting up with me.
happyfeet (713679) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:34 pmAs a friend said: “Thank you CBS for CSI Theme Songs: The Halftime Show”…
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:34 pmGutsy second-half onside kick by NO but it paid off.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:39 pmAnd the Colts answer. 17-13 Colts.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:40 pm@Dmac It was Peter Yarrow not Paul Stooky who had the problem.
Tanny O'Haley (8762b9) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:47 pm“Celebrate family. Celebrate life.”
RUN AND HIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 5:50 pmstupid … Team R is made of stupid.
happyfeet (713679) — 2/7/2010 @ 6:20 pmFOTF does some good work, but I have to say I was disappointed in Dr. Dobson, when he pulled some stuff on Mitt Romney a few years back. He and his wife wouldn’t allow Mr. and Mrs. Romney join them in prayer (a prayer circle), apparently because Romney’s Mormon faith doesn’t meet Dobson’s definition of a true Christian.
That sort of bullshit is one (just one) of the reasons why Mike Huckabee could never get my vote for any office.
GeneralMalaise (55c598) — 2/7/2010 @ 6:22 pmCan’t disagree with you feets, on that score, what comes after ‘epic fail’ a line I borrowed from Rachel Lucas, a fellow Texan transplanted to the UK
ian cormac (7b6e35) — 2/7/2010 @ 6:45 pmMARCOTTE FAIL!
Tebow: Hey Mom! Tried to kill you from the womb and failed. How about a blind side tackle? Violence against Moms FTW! (via @MarcFaletti) about 3 hours ago from Tweetie in reply to MarcFaletti
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 6:51 pmAmandaMarcotte
Amanda Marcotte
parkour! District 13 gets a sequel. Luc Besson is brilliant almost always I think.
which I found on the way to noting more Strange New Respect.
happyfeet (713679) — 2/7/2010 @ 6:55 pmoh. except I forgot Luc doesn’t direct these ones
happyfeet (713679) — 2/7/2010 @ 6:57 pmRe: the televised health care meeting at the White House — Hopefully the GOP Congressional leaders will be smart enough to take someone like Ryan who can think on this feet.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 2/7/2010 @ 6:58 pmMs. Marcotte has a jaundiced view of life.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 2/7/2010 @ 7:00 pmNo matter who Team R takes they are … what’s the word? … eviscerating any argument that the economy is the number one issue.
happyfeet (713679) — 2/7/2010 @ 7:01 pmSaints win 31-17.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 2/7/2010 @ 7:06 pmMs. Marcotte has &*^%$$ and &&&^% not to mention &*(%$#@.
nk (db4a41) — 2/7/2010 @ 7:06 pmOn a negative note, the Lt. Gov. candidate for the Dems in Illinois who did not know he was dating a hooker when he assaulted her (he’s different person now!) with drew from the race.
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 7:22 pmOn the bright side, that still leave us with the mobbed up, crooked Dem banker candidate to replace Burris in the Senate.
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 7:33 pmyou don’t think the squish can win, daley?
happyfeet (713679) — 2/7/2010 @ 7:37 pmFeets – I’m not at all happy with the squish, but I think he can win. The banker is just another crooked Illinois machine politician. Even though it’s a blue state, Kirk is squishy enough to win.
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 7:45 pmok.
beggars and choosers I guess.
happyfeet (713679) — 2/7/2010 @ 7:48 pm=leaves us with the mobbed up, crooked Dem banker candidate=
I assume what daley means is that we will be able to better focus our resources against the remaining known crook on the statewide Dem ticket. Not quite so much triage will be required.
elissa (04a2a9) — 2/7/2010 @ 7:49 pmAs if that’s gonna keep him from being an issue… “You people voted for him to run… What, he not good enough for you now?”
And I’m still not entirely sure they can replace him on the ballot…
Scott Jacobs (d027b8) — 2/7/2010 @ 8:24 pmJD…
Saints….
….win….
….the….
….SUPER BOWL!!!!
reff (176333) — 2/7/2010 @ 8:37 pmI figured you were kidding, but…
Caroline S. (4e3063) — 2/7/2010 @ 8:43 pmA friend of mine read a comment (I can’t find the link) that this person would be putting the Super Bowl on TIVO with a one hour tape delay so he wouldn’t have to watch the Tim Tebow commercial. It’s one of those jokes that could actually be true (not for Patterico of course).
elissa – Mob loans, Rezko ties, familiy ran bank into the toilet while looting it – all great stuff. He was Chief Credit Officer.
It’s all good. Just another slimeball Illinois politician. He might just be slimy enough to let a squishy Republican win in a blue state.
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 8:44 pmHigh five, reff. I was laughing my ass off, thinking of Skip Bayliss (sp?) saying “I’m gonna say what no one around ESPN likes to say: the Saints just aren’t that good.”
Heh. Biatch.
Leviticus (30ac20) — 2/7/2010 @ 8:49 pmWonderful Family!
Wonderful Ministry!
go to focusonthefamily.com
Actually, the game was almost as good as the Tebow Family ad.
JoeS (0d5386) — 2/7/2010 @ 8:50 pm“As if that’s gonna keep him from being an issue”
Scott – The media reation has been great.
“Dur. We didn’t bother checking him out because nobody thought he had a chance to win.”
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 8:56 pmWell, the Saints won by defense, when everyone thought it would be a an offense-dominated game.
The camera cut away from Roger Daltrey during the scream from “Won’t Get Fooled Again” so that a few folk would think a 60-year-old man could still scream as if he was in his 20s. Also, Pete should have rethought his wardrobe.
Daisy Duck called Carrie Underwood and asked for her shoes back.
And Focus on the Family aired two commercials about how much a mother loved her son. I just hate it when those Christianists try to demean a national event with their hate-filled, political rants that have caused all the world’s suffering.
By the way, today was my wife’s birthday. So we took her to lunch about 2 p.m. Central Time, during the pregame on CBS.
When we got back, around 4 p.m., I turned on the TV, and there was Katie Couric and the President talking about health care and how important it was to go ahead a push it on through. He deflected her half-hearted questions about the Nebraska and Louisiana deals, saying that was just Washington politics. And the little icon on the lower right of the screen said this conversation was “live.”
I checked my satellite program guide and it said “Super Bowl Pregame.” I think I missed a lot of the interview. Did they talk about the Super Bowl?
Ag80 (1592cc) — 2/7/2010 @ 9:15 pmCBS must be worried we don’t hear from the President enough so they slipped in a pre-game interview.
DRJ (84a0c3) — 2/7/2010 @ 9:30 pmIs there any topic/event that the MSM cannot use as an excuse to give Barcky a tongue-bath?
JD (2df302) — 2/7/2010 @ 9:35 pmThe Pro-Choice people showed their true colors when they protested that denying funds to the Chinese government for Family planning (which involves both forced abortion and forced sterilization) was against the Pro-Choice position.
Yes they actually stated that opposing forced abortions was anti-coice.
Have Blue (854a6e) — 2/7/2010 @ 9:44 pmDRJ:
The reason I asked is because I remember the 2006 Super Bowl between the Steelers and Seahawks so well. The Steelers won 21-10. It was a good game.
I also remember watching the pregame show when they cut away to that lame interview in the White House by Diane Sawyer with President Bush. He was trying to justify the war in Iraq and why he cut taxes on the rich. And she totally owned him. I remember it as if it was yesterday.
Good times.
Ag80 (1592cc) — 2/7/2010 @ 9:55 pmObama won the Super Bowl MVP, didn’t he? I missed the award presentation.
daleyrocks (718861) — 2/7/2010 @ 10:01 pm#37 Hey now, show some respect for Ms. Marcotte. She obviously knows an abuser of women when she sees one and would never, ever have anything to do with one.
M. Scott Eiland (c552ec) — 2/8/2010 @ 3:26 am