[Guest post by DRJ]
Wildfires are burning in Northern California in the Santa Cruz mountains. Evacuations have begun and flames can be seen for up to 100 miles away. Here’s a link to a map of current large U.S. fires.
It may be a long fall and winter for California and Californians.
— DRJ
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Is this maybe related to why the sky in the Valley was so weird a lot of today? Looked wrong and we couldn’t figure why.
hf (9bda9c) — 8/13/2009 @ 5:12 pmStoopid Sarah Palin is responsible for this.
Dr. Carlo Lombardi (095353) — 8/13/2009 @ 5:24 pmI guess it could be the smoke from that one near Los Padres. That’s not exactly unfar though.
Fires are bad cause you need to have water to put them out and instead of working on water problems California spent six billion dollars on dead baby stem cells.
They are so wacky I can’t even tell you.
happyfeet (42470c) — 8/13/2009 @ 5:39 pmIt may be a long fall and winter for California and Californians.
Well, at least our state government has been managed by a bunch of truly wise, level-headed, common-sense-oriented people. Chosen by an electorate full of those in love with the belief of “I’m liberal, therefore I am.”
So there, humpf, and nanny nanny, neener neener.
Mark (411533) — 8/13/2009 @ 5:55 pmThe smoke has been bad here in Santa Barbara all afternoon and it is blowing toward LA.
SteveG (97b6b9) — 8/13/2009 @ 5:57 pmWe are getting a light ash fall…
That’s probably it then. I will keep an eye out. Santa Barbara has cool trees. Very kind of Jurassic Park looking trees.
That’s all I know about Santa Barbara except there are islands involved and also someone said once that it’s not as liberal as I think it is.
My idea is that it would be very dirty socialist and anti-growth and very angst-ridden about the details of the local recycling programs.
happyfeet (42470c) — 8/13/2009 @ 6:05 pmI hope we don’t have to spend any of Sacto’s money on these
Daryl Herbert (b5227b) — 8/13/2009 @ 6:23 pmhillbilliesmountain peopleyuppies who like to commute.Up here in Oregon, one major export is fire suppression services (hand crews, engines, and caterpillar/bulldozer). Calfire tries to do it alone, but eventually hires a bunch of crews.
Last year, I was hearing about a few cases where Calfire would call up 2 cats, and then when they’d show up on scene, would state they’d only pay for one. At least one contractor took his equipment and went back home.
Not sure just how much support Calfire (former name California Department of Forestry, aka CDF, aka Can’t Do Fire) is going to get from contractors this year.
It’s going to be a long fire season. Too bad I’m downwind of some of the fires…
Red County Pete (3529c5) — 8/13/2009 @ 7:31 pmOh yeah, a bit on Bonny Doon. Almost a rain forest, very lush, with steep terrain. With a severe drought, it’s a potential hellhole. No really good roads, and if you decide to evacuate too late, it’s be best if you left dental records on file.
Not sure of the demographics nowadays, but about 10 years ago, it was about 70 percent hippies and 10 percent commuters to Santa Clara Valley. The others were trying to get by.
Red County Pete (3529c5) — 8/13/2009 @ 7:39 pmThe potential good news is that just about every forecaster is calling for an El Nino year to begin very shortly, which would mean torrential rains for California, thus the end to the wildfire threat. But as for the mudslides…
Dmac (e6d1c2) — 8/13/2009 @ 8:07 pmYeah… very angst ridden about the details of the local recycling programs… that’s us.
SteveG (97b6b9) — 8/13/2009 @ 8:08 pmSocialist and anti growth too… but other than that we are OK
go to the NWS Oxnard web site in the AM and call up the satellite photos for SoCal….
the smoke plume from up by Santa Maria extends all the way down past the Mexican Border….. and it was blocking the sun here in the SFV all afternoon.
made for a hellacious sunset too, from all accounts
wanna bet the Nino turns up as a no show this winter?
/burn baby burn.
redc1c4 (fb8750) — 8/13/2009 @ 8:42 pmHoly crap, the haze really was form the fires? I wondered why it was all orangey this morning. My dad said it looked like there was a fire, but the Santa Cruz one was too far away to be it. Guess he was wrong.
wherestherum (439f28) — 8/13/2009 @ 9:00 pm“long fall and winter for California and Californians”. No worse than usual. In fact this fire season is shaping up to be milder than usual given the relatively cool summer we have had here in the Bay Area and a couple of rare summer storm systems that moved through and dropped rain in June and July. People express surprise that there are fires in areas like Bonny Doon but there are always fires out here, mostly human caused. The Martin fire last summer was in this same area, 500 acres and 3 homes were destroyed. We have had drought conditions but again it’s not severe, I think our annual rainfall numbers ended up being a little over 80% of normal, and spread out over the entire winter rather than all at once, which is good.
jeff (2790c9) — 8/14/2009 @ 8:19 amThat seems fair comment
especially as Arnold’s state of emergency seems to say the same as have several others,
statement made after statement when earlier needed action was requested, we all agree action should have been taken but the state of California seems to have taken this on itself in cost as Federal seems to have vaporized.
We acted CalFire acted The Governor acted, then everybody else went on holiday in an election which has led to corruption in Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, now this year preparations for 2010, then the Olympics … then snooze.
Some work as Arnold, some sleep in central office as in 1970s in Australian holidays.
The profess Heritage and Environment.
Fire burn to break fire resource sites is normal for Forestry and scrub control
There seems to be a consensus that we have asked for Federal or central government (in England, flood etc) actions as statute and already tax paid, collected, prior to the requests,
for decades here and in the USA
and Just normal everyday work would have contained this situation,
but central government is living in a high rise tax evading Finance House made of international committee,
while collecting taxes and giving it to banks and wars, who lost it all in their private schemes,
to protect their own necks.
Daniel 1. 18
a self protection action which God then said OK now you have to save the king of Babylon and then the people by that and he has to behave, much as was said to Moses,
get out there and do something,
they might not listen
Ezekial
whether they hear or they refuse to hear
Mike Stagg Somerset
Michael Dennis Stagg (7be8a1) — 9/4/2009 @ 11:32 amSenior Lecturer 1978 … yes I have been doing this Long Time
Then profess Heritage and Environment
Michael Dennis Stagg (7be8a1) — 9/4/2009 @ 11:35 amerror type,
is this Political Convenience I see before me … Shakespeare
Mike