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8/12/2009

Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall Meeting?

Filed under: Obama — Patterico @ 12:51 pm



[UPDATE: Mayer has admitted to me that she is not a doctor. Details here.]

Yesterday, DRJ posted on a comical town hall meeting that Sheila Jackson Lee held in Houston on Tuesday, in which Jackson Lee talked on her cell phone as a constituent asked a question.

A reader writes to raise questions about whether there was a Barack Obama plant at Jackson Lee’s town hall meeting, in the form of one “Dr. Roxana Mayer,” who was mentioned in this Houston Chronicle article:

Some attendees at the meeting spoke in favor of the plan, go so far as to want a system where the government had complete control.

One supporter, Dr. Roxana Mayer, a physician who does not live in Jackson Lee’s district, praised the reform plan for overhauling a broken system.

“I don’t know what there is in the bill that creates such panic,” she said.

MyBarackObama shows a Roxana Mayer was a Texas Delegate for Obama (click on Directory in the center of the page).

MBO Roxana Mayer

But I can’t find any evidence that she’s a doctor. Instead, I find evidence of a Roxana Mayer who appears to be a graduate student studying social work at the University of Houston, where Jackson Lee’s husband is a vice president for student affairs.

If Roxana Mayer is a doctor, she isn’t listed where you would expected her to be listed. For example, the AMA Doctor Finder doesn’t list any physician named Roxana Mayer.

AMA Roxana Mayer

Nor does the Texas Medical Association.

TMA Roxana Mayer 1
The search

TMA Roxana Mayer 2
The result: nothing

Now, this is not conclusive. It is not clear whether all doctors are members, and I suppose that it’s possible that some kinds of doctors may not be listed there. (For example, I’m not sure about the licensing or registration requirements for osteopaths.)

However, the University of Houston lists a student by the name of Roxana Mercedes Mayer.

UH Roxana Mayer

In addition, Linked In lists a Roxana Mayer — who, according to LinkedIn, is slated to graduate from the University of Houston with a Masters in Social Work in 2010.

And oddly, there is a connection between Jackson Lee and Roxana Mayer’s University of Houston. Namely, Jackson Lee is married to one Elwyn C. Lee, who has a dual appointment as the “University of Houston System vice chancellor for student affairs and University of Houston vice president for student affairs.”

What does it all mean? I’m not quite sure at this point. But it’s enough to make me go:

Hmmm.

P.S. I have whited out the e-mail address in the screenshot of Roxana Mayer’s University of Houston listing, although you can see it at the link. I have written the Roxana Mayer at the e-mail address to see if she will answer some of my questions.

P.P.S. Hey, if Obama can do it at his own town hall meetings, who’s to say it’s not happening everywhere.

PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF UPDATE: A picture of the Roxana Mayer at the town hall meeting, hugging Jackson Lee, is clearly the same person as a Roxana Mayer on MySpace from Houston, TX.

Not the greatest vetting by the Chronicle.

Thanks to David Mickelson at Ace’s for the link to the town hall meeting picture, and beedubya for the MySpace idea.

176 Responses to “Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall Meeting?”

  1. Wow, those journalists must have some really sore backs. They are carrying gallons and gallons of water for the democrats.

    Ray (3c46ca)

  2. Not to mention it is dirty water they are carrying, so it’s not like it will do anyone any good when they arrive at their destination.

    Ray (3c46ca)

  3. If one were so inclined, it would be a good idea to check to see if she has a Facebook or MySpace account. I have never been to either, but it is my understanding that there are photos of the individuals.

    If that’s the case, that can be compared to video from the town hall.

    beedubya (46b990)

  4. How about this coincidence?

    Tutorial – Through a partnership with the University of Houston Community Initiative tutoring assistance is offered to all participants in grades 9-12, Monday-Thursday free of charge. To schedule tutoring sessions, call Robbie Evans, University of Houston Community Initiative Program Director at (713) 743-6032.

    Robbie Evans is the other person named in the Chronicle’s article that supported Obamacare.

    Sue (c800a3)

  5. There is a Roxana Mayer in Houston TX on Facebook, but the account is not openly viewable.

    nickless (a5a464)

  6. If it’s any help there is a picture of her here.

    G Hamid (03e0f1)

  7. A reporter for the Houston Chronicle printing a quote from a ‘doctor’ that supports obama’s healthcare destruction plan?

    It’s more likely than you think.

    Houston Native (b90bc6)

  8. No different than the little girl and her mother in the New Hampshire town hall were RESIDENTS OF MASS.

    They can’t find a plant in Portsmouth NH or in all of NH. So they import a resident of another state for a NH town hall. No spin can cover “what is someone from another state asking a softball question about healthcare? It’s pathetic how staged the whole thing is

    Joe K. (d21ec0)

  9. The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation does not list a Roxana Mayer as a Physician, or PA

    L Nettles (69ae76)

  10. That picture says that she is a pediatric primary care physician. Does that mean that she is a pediatrician specifically? If so she isn’t on this list: http://www.healthgrades.com/directory_search/physician/profiles/pediatrics/texas/alphas23.cfm

    But this list probably doesn’t cover everyone.

    Mark Boabaca (5c429d)

  11. The pictures of this Roxana Mayer (Houston, TX) on Myspace look kind of like the one G Hamid posted.

    http://www.myspace.com/344298960

    Andrea (9707e8)

  12. THE TEXAS MEDICAL BOARD

    returns no information for “Roxana Mayer”.

    Ragspierre (509b15)

  13. Andrea,

    See my update. It’s definite that the one at the meeting was a Roxana Mayer from Houston, per the MySpace pictures.

    Patterico (ba9751)

  14. There is a comment in the linked photo from the newspaper of Ms. Mayer claiming:

    “Dr. Mayer treated my quintuplets after they contracted swine flu last year. She’s a saint! My kids loved her, and I highly recommend her. FYI, Davesnothere, she recently re-married and her TX med license is under her former name.”

    Seems odd since the H1N1 swine flu was first identified in April of this year.

    [note: fished from spam filter]

    Davem (71927b)

  15. Great work Patterico. You’re single-handedly better than the legendary MSM network of editors.

    David Mickelson (08991e)

  16. Not only a plant, but lies about what she does. A pediatric primary care physician? Isn’t it illegal to represent yourself as a physician when you are in fact, not one?

    Great detective work on this one. Used to be a day when journalists would have done the same, but that day is long gone.

    Korie (7bffe3)

  17. What if her married name is Mayer and she hasn’t changed her medical license yet?

    Sue (c800a3)

  18. It would be more surprising to find out that they were not doing this. The aggressive dishonesty, and lack of MSM follow-up, is par for the course. I would be equally surprised to find out that water is wet.

    JD (3ab713)

  19. Note that Roxanna’s work experience consists of 1 year as an intern in the 14 years she’s been at UofH, per linkdin.

    Kevin (fa08e9)

  20. My guess is that she will be graduated early, VERY early (like tomorrow) with a surprise, honorary medical degree. End of story.

    Now move along; nothing to see here.

    LASue (5ea0a5)

  21. I checked the medical board, too. If she was using that name in public, it is unlikely that she would practice under a different one. I know women physicians who do not use their married name publicly but not the other way round.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  22. […] comes a “doctor” who appeared at U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee’s town hall to praise Obama’s health care […]

    Right Angles » Blog Archive » Obama: First Horticulturist? (1490a2)

  23. korie,
    It’s not illegal to represent yourself ,if you’re not offering medical advice. Still, representing oneself as a ‘pediatric primary care’ doc is as likely as a weater forecaster talking os purple Fahrenheit or some such term.Reporters were trying not to know .
    Time to go Bo Tox some folks.

    Corwin (07884c)

  24. Conservatives are like people who fart then point at someone else when the stench rises. How many of the conservative plants have you investigated? How much attention have you given to the Fox and other conservative commentators who have encouraged, not discourse, but disruption of town meetings where people are hoping to get real information? Personally, I’ve considered going to some of these meetings to ask reasonable questions. Granted I wouldn’t lie about my identity and if this woman did, shame on her. But, where is your evidence that she is a plant? And, why don’t you address how people honestly interested in learning more and making reasonable conclusions are being pushed aside by those disrupting meetings under the marching orders of their leaders in the conservative media?

    Denise (9465ce)

  25. Out in Alhambra at Adam Schiff’s townhall there were several nurses in white lab coats. The nurse’s union and their national organizing committee name appeared on many of the preprinted signs supporting health care. There was another lady in a lab coat with an MPH on her lapel which, I assume, means Masters in Public Health. I’ll grant that the ladies were nurses and involved in the medical field–but when I’m in a hospital or at my doctor’s offices I’ve never seen a nurse in a lab coat.

    But what the heck, why not wear the lab coat–maybe “borrow” a stethoscope to to complete the image.

    Mike Myers (674050)

  26. I find evidence of a Roxana Mayer who appears to be a graduate student studying social work at the University of Houston

    Social work?!

    I believe that field of study tends to attract people of a conservative nature. Yea, yea, uh-huh, that’s right. The type who will support a Republican instead of a Democrat, a McCain instead of an Obama.

    So there’s no way that is the same Roxana Mayer who attended Lee’s town meeting.

    BTW, I have some swampland in Florida and a bridge in Brooklyn for sale.

    Mark (411533)

  27. Yet another fraud by Democrats trying to sell their bogus “reform”.

    But the media will repeat the dishonest astroturf allegations without mentioning this at all.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  28. Denise, that was really pathetic. What a fat winded version of “you do it too” without any … you know … factual basis.

    You are the perfect Democrat.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  29. What can a Chronicle reporter do here?

    They attend. They observe. They see someone ask a question. They note it. At the conclusion they seek out a few questioners they’d like to quote. They ask their name. They ask their profession. They file that information.

    I don’t know how the reporters handle the staff of elected officials, but I always watch them after public meetings and the staff take on the role of connecting the press to the people in the audience that they want quoted. It’s part of their show.

    Brennan (7e7343)

  30. denise,

    I don’t think you’re right that tea party protesters are somehow stoping anyone from learning about the bills or coming to any conclusions.

    There are 5 versions of the bill, and it’s not clear what’s in each one. Obama’s the one making it very difficult to learn what’s going on with this bill. He’s the one saying ‘shut up and get out of the way’ and ‘get in their faces’. he’s the one who promised negotiations would occur on cspan and the bill would be well known.

    Instead, he’s rushing to pass a bill no one has read.

    And I don’t know what you mean about conservative plants. Can you explain what you mean?

    Juan (bd4b30)

  31. Denise… I wouldnt even call this “investigating”, after all a 2 minute search on a few web sites provided the answer.

    Since you’ve made the accusation that the right has plants, I’m sure given the time it took to root out the real job of this young women, you should be able to find about 100 republican plants from these town halls by tomorrow. I eagerly await your findings.

    Reality Man (db9931)

  32. “… by those disrupting meetings under the marching orders of their leaders in the conservative media?…”

    Got projection?

    You might ask those Union thugs.

    Oh, that’s right. That didn’t happen. Only Rethuglicans act like…well, you know.

    Eric Blair (0bb481)

  33. Need I point out how obviously racist all of you are?

    Denounced and condemned.

    JD (4cd453)

  34. It’s all part of the plan to reduce healthcare costs… have Social Work grad students make medical decisions instead of those greedy M.D.s

    malclave (4f3ec1)

  35. Denise says “But, where is your evidence that she is a plant?”. Did you read the damn post and updates, Denise?

    Juan – You forgot that Barcky’s folks directed his astroturfing thugs to punch back twice as hard. Like the good footsoliders they are, Gladney got beat down shortly thereafter.

    JD (1517ae)

  36. She also has a facebook page. It says things like “We love Michelle Obama.”

    http://tiny.cc/MnK7W

    David Mickelson (08991e)

  37. Where is the evidence that this is a plant and not a single person using bad judgement by lying, if in fact, she did? I simply asked where the evidence in this case is AND why does it appear there is an editorial decision to ‘investigate’ people who are pro health care for citizens and not the same attention to those who disrupt meetings with far right wing rhetoric?

    Denise (9465ce)

  38. Poor Denise. She spent more than an hour formulating a wickedly effective deconstruction of patterico’s plant theory and then figured that she should lead off with a recycled junior high school comment about farts.

    Farts are funny, aren’t they Denise?

    Cicero (8db983)

  39. Sheila has managed to get me twice. She has brought disrepute on both my hometown, Houston, and my law school, the University of Virginia. Why either place would ever put up with her us just a mystery.

    Carlos (33f606)

  40. Hey, Denise, here’s a question I’d like answered. Perhaps you can find out for me?

    If this health care reform is so all-fired wonderful, why is Congress busy exempting themselves from it?

    Frankly, if it is good enough for me, it’s good enough from my Congress critter, or the President for that matter.

    I R A Darth Aggie (9e9ecf)

  41. Is There Anybody NOT Connected to Obama In Favor of ObamaCare?…

    Yet another townhall meeting. Yet another phony “random audience member.”…

    Polimerican (3552e7)

  42. Sheila Jackson-Lee Phones It In…

    Hey, give Sheila Jackson-Lee a little credit — at least she talks on her cell phone while actually attending a town hall and ignoring her consituents’ questions in person, rather than Harry Reid, who uses his phone to avoid meeting the peas…

    Ed Driscoll (a3d746)

  43. Has someone reported this yet to the fishy website at the White HOuse? If not, they should–it’s certainly fishy and misleading on the issue of health care reform.

    rochf (ae9c58)

  44. University of Houston
    Graduate College of Social Work
    STUDENT STANDARDS POLICY
    Adopted May 5, 2000, revised 3/1/2002, 2/6/2004, 3/5/2004
    http://www.sw.uh.edu/documents/policies/studentstandards.pdf

    1.06 Ethical Conduct:

    6. Demonstrates consistent honesty and integrity by being truthful about
    one’s own background, experiences, and qualifications.

    The above is from the MSW webpage at U of H. If the young lady told the Chronicle that she was a doctor then she may be in a world of trouble

    mike in houston (bce7f2)

  45. Denise – If healthcare is so damn important and vital, why do you, Barcky, and the rest of the Leftists lie about what is being done. If it is that damn important, why do you have union thugs beating people up for going to townhalls? If it is so damn important, why do the Leftists come up with a new distraction daily? Don’t you think that it would be important for Barcky and the Congresscritters to be honest?

    JD (1762b4)

  46. Denise – You have been reported to flag@whitehouse.gov for aggressively mendoucheous behavior.

    JD (1762b4)

  47. […] Allegedly Jackson Lee had a plant at her town hall meeting? Looks like it anyway. And this one is not just a cute kid. Nope this one is a real doctor. Well, not real maybe but I’m sure she slept in a Holiday Inn Express as some point in her life. Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Pelosi Shoots Down Jackson Resolution […]

    Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Had To Confirm A Pizza Delivery « The Reluctant Optimist (186bd9)

  48. 29.What can a Chronicle reporter do here?

    If they really got fooled, and weren’t in on it, they can do a story on the plant for tomorrow’s paper and really tear into Lee unequivocally for the deception.

    j curtis (baef6f)

  49. Is this site under a DDOS, or is it just being quirky?

    I hate to complain, because this site has been awesome lately and doesn’t deserve anything but thanks… still, I would love if Patterico got a quote for how much if would cost to improve the technology, and then held some kind of charity drive. He could autograph dog trainers or something.

    Denise, you repeated yourself, but you were not responsive. It’s Obama who is trying to shut down debate. I proved it. You have accused the right wing of having plants. I asked you what you meant. People showing up because they are mad are not plants just because they read instapundit and listen to Rush. That’s asinine.

    This woman has many links to the Obama machine. She’s part of Obama’s famous astroturf website, Organizing for America. The same one that has been caught sending plants and flooding GOP offices with fake scheduled meetings. And she lied about who she was to boltser her argument. She has some vague school link to Jackson Lee’s husband.

    That’s pretty good evidence. You can’t honestly say this site didn’t provide any evidence.

    Your party should be ashamed of itself. You should be further ashamed to blame the right for things you are simply making up, in the face of the left being the culprit.

    Juan (bd4b30)

  50. We should all pass the hat and ship a few hundred sacks of Bandini to the White House gardner–with all these plants they’re responsible for, they might need some real fertilizer rather than the generic BS they have to do the job.

    M. Scott Eiland (5ccff0)

  51. Most recent from an Ace commenter who got a response from the Chronicle:

    Response from the writer of the Chronicle article:

    This was the name and information that she gave at the public meeting. And there have since been questions about it, another person that I found on “linked in” that is a social worker intern at a drug council. However, no concrete proof of her misrepresenting herself. But we will be watching for her at future meetings to check her out. Best regards, Cindy Horswell

    Posted by: Dang Straights at August 12, 2009 05:55 PM (Haq+B)

    andycanuck (6ce77c)

  52. I have a question …

    DR. JD (28e6e6)

  53. still, I would love if Patterico got a quote for how much if would cost to improve the technology,

    And I sure wish he’d make his comment forum easier to scroll through. The lack of any graphics like this:
    ______________________________

    that visually separate one post from the other makes them all harder to differentiate or easily single out. This is the only message-board interface I’ve ever seen on the Internet that dispenses with a more tried-and-true format.

    Mark (411533)

  54. Denise, you have spent hundreds of words projecting your party’s bankrupt moral compass on the right, despite a huge amount of verifiable evidence that this woman is a fraud.

    Let me ask you… Do all these plants worry you? Doesn’t it concern you that Mr Hope n’ Change is stacking Town Halls? Doesn’t it concern you that Mr Hope n’ Change’s jackboots are calling any dissent unpatriotic? Doesn’t it concern you that a man who promised transparency is being so shady (none of us are surprised, he is a Chicago machine politician – but your side certainly seemed enamored with his nuance).

    For 8 long years, you lot whinged about the Bush Junta. Now that there is actual evidence of junta-like behaviour, albeit on your side, you’re response is to project on the right?

    JaneS (f5dca4)

  55. Mark, I hadn’t noticed that. I bet that would be an easy thing to add, though I’ve always really enjoyed the comment sections here. Particularly awesome is the smart sidebar that tells me who has recently commented.

    The real point is that Patterico, Dunphy, Karl, and DRJ have attracted a horde or readers and have an unusually good comment section thanks to their thick skin, and this has resulted in a strain on the site.

    I wouldn’t mind seeing slicker graphics or the line Mark mentioned, but I was referring to a site that didn’t need to supercache because it has some kind of 454 SS server.

    Juan (bd4b30)

  56. If the Chronicle doesn’t wish to be ridiculed as Houston’s answer to Pravda, they’d better issue a prominent correction post haste. Oh, wait – I just woke up. Never mind.

    Dmac (e6d1c2)

  57. Unethical would have been a better phrase for me to use, not illegal. This stuff makes me so angry that words fail me.

    Thanks again.

    Korie (7bffe3)

  58. Unethical would have been a better phrase word for me to use, not illegal.

    Wow, it’s worse than I thought…

    Korie (7bffe3)

  59. Well, I don’t know anything about Roxana Mayer, but I’d sure like to meet that wild ‘n’ crazy gal-pal of hers, “Cindy”, shown on Mayer’s MySpace page.

    Hot-cha-cha!!!!!

    Markj (42fe5b)

  60. Comment by JD — 8/12/2009 @ 3:18 pm

    Congratulations on your recovery, JD.
    That nicer, kinder JD was hard to take.
    It’s great to see the angry, edgy JD back, and on top of his form.
    But, could you not be so quick on the trigger denouncing yourself?
    Takes all the fun out of it for the rest of us.

    AD - RtR/OS! (6269f6)

  61. Oh, and BTW, Denise:
    Wake up, and get a life.
    Or, do you really want to be some politicians’ concubine all your life.

    AD - RtR/OS! (6269f6)

  62. i looked for myself and could not find me as an MD. beware of the AMA not a good outfit.

    Barqui (a2f9e5)

  63. My response from Ms. Horswell:

    This is the name and occupation that she gave when she spoke at the public meeting. She also told me that she was an Obama state delegate and been notified of the meeting by email and did not live in Lee’s district. I have since been trying to see if she misrepresented herself. There is someone by the same name who lists herself as a graduate student and sociologist intern at a Houston council on drugs and alcohol…but that person no longer works there. And do not know if this is the sme person. She may also be a visiting doctor from another state…..Am interested in any information that anyone might have. Best regards, Cindy Horswell

    mike in houston (bce7f2)

  64. “But we will be watching for her at future meetings to check her out.”

    That settles it. She’s on the list to “check out”. Right after Lucy Ramirez (or whoever ‘passed’ the Bush ‘AWOL’ ‘document’ to ‘Dan’ ‘Rather’s’ producer).

    Dudette, bloggers and commenters have presented you this story with a bow. If you can’t bother to write it up, save the blather about getting her next time, Yosemite Sam.

    EBJ (2fd7f7)

  65. Maybe the Univ of Houston student newspaper would like to SCOOP the Chron!

    The Daily Cougar
    http://www.thedailycougar.com/

    contact info:
    http://www.thedailycougar.com/contactus-1.1302614

    JeanneB (b1f3cc)

  66. AD – Thanks, I feel much better. Densie is teh suck. Barcky is teh suck. Rep Lee is really teh suck, but not in the same league as Cynthia McKinney.

    JD (2c1e5e)

  67. Well, Roxanna isn’t a photographer, that’s for sure.

    Kevin Murphy (805c5b)

  68. […] at town halls all across the country. Not just the "right wing mobsters" either. Patterico’s Pontifications Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall Meeting… This clip is from Fox. I know, it's fox, must be phoney 'cause they hate Democrats. But it's a […]

    Health Care reform comments - Page 3 - theBubbler (0c5d79)

  69. Who cares.First, she looks way better and hotter than the female conservative nutjobs at these town halls. Second, she sounded so much more articulate and reasonable. Third her remarks were truthful. Let’s see, a Dem plant that pretty, smart, and truthful…Well I guess I would not want that

    MICHAEL SPENCER (9f89a5)

  70. Denise @ #24:

    “24.Conservatives are like people who fart then point at someone else when the stench rises.”

    She who smelt it, dealt it.

    flan (a8bcfc)

  71. Maybe she confused going to UH for 13 years with going to medical school. Bottom line, this woman is a fraud just like everyone else that speaks at Obama’s townhalls. The chron reporter may or may not be complicit, but if you’re waiting on a correction from them good luck.

    Houston Native (b335a5)

  72. Shelia Jackson is a total pi g like the rest of the lying deceitful Demioncrats… shame their parents didn’t raise them better. Disgusting!! Look into to her corruption!!1 You will see what kind of “person”
    she is.

    tjzbears (5009e5)

  73. Third her remarks were truthful

    Her remark that she was a physician was truthful?

    malclave (4f3ec1)

  74. This is absurd. If we had a news media in this country, instead of the collection of highly biased incompetents who pretend to be journalists, we would have some coverage of the hoaxes the Democrats perpetrate. Not to mention the demonization and thuggery directed at citizens.

    angry mob (4e0dda)

  75. She said she didn’t know of anything in the bill that could cause alarm, but no one even knows which of the various version of the bill will be passed. That’s kinda insane.

    Her vague and over the top statement of dismissing all concerns didn’t come across as articulating anything, Michael ‘allcaps’ Spencer. How is she articulate? Because she’s on your side?

    Juan (bd4b30)

  76. Some clarification regarding support from nurses on this mess. The American Nurses Association does support it, they are the only real nursing association out there, they also actually only have some 7% of Registered Nurses as members, they refuse to represent LPNs. The ANA has the amount of nurses they do primarily related to facilities that are unionized and you have to join the union as a condition of employment. Closed shop and all that. If you are part of a union associated with the ANA than you automatically became an ANA member and get to pay their dues as well as your union dues. I pay more a month than a UAW member does. The ANA is extremely liberal, a couple years ago the President of the association showed up at Gitmo to ensure those poor unfairly accused folks were getting good care, I believe she went through the auspices of the Red Cross if I remember correctly. And as far as nurses wearing a lab coat, in general those who do so are nurses who are management nurses or those who are in general non bedside nurses but who wear a lab coat over their street cloths so they can act like real nurses. Oh, sorry they are real nurses they just don’t do bedside work. I’ve been an RN for 18 years and in general nurses tend to be in favor of that which will make sure their patients get what they need. I think it would be hard to find a nurse that says we don’t need reform, however even among the nurses I know that voted for Obama I can’t find one that supports the current bill their trying to shove down our throats.

    Grace O'Malley (316538)

  77. Denise – When I fart, I just grin broadly and exclaim “Wow, that was a sure ’nuff good ‘ne!”

    Chuck Roast (0772e7)

  78. She also told me that she was an Obama state delegate

    She may also be a visiting doctor from another state…..

    Do they even read what they write? We are to assume she moved out of state in the last few months?

    Sue (2442a4)

  79. Denise, you have to be the absolute worse we’ve seen at spinning reality away.

    As an example, your comment: “Where is the evidence that this is a plant and not a single person using bad judgement by lying, if in fact, she did?

    The evidence that she’s a plant are the links to Jackson-Lee, and the credulous way that Jackson-Lee personally acknowledges her. Its pretty strong evidence actually.

    Meanwhile, you have what? Oh, right. Nothing.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  80. No, Sue, they don’t read what they write and coherency is evidently frowned upon.

    SPQR (26be8b)

  81. This administration will have as much genuine authority as it’s supporters.

    This government is quickly becoming illegitimate.

    Apogee (e2dc9b)

  82. Am I the only one who thought that Sheila might be playing that whole “I need to take this call” like you do on a really bad date?

    Kristen (ce6b26)

  83. This government is quickly becoming illegitimate.

    Apogee, the question is: when does it change from becoming, moving toward, in the state of occurring, to actually is illegitimate? What’s the tipping point?

    Dana (57e332)

  84. why does it appear there is an editorial decision to ‘investigate’ people who are pro health care for citizens and not the same attention to those who disrupt meetings with far right wing rhetoric?

    Comment by Denise

    This is so amusing. The poor little lambs have to support daddy who promised them that all would be taken care of once he was in office. Some of us even provide “health care for citizens” and even non-citizens. Do we get to say something or should we just shut up and let masterminds like Denise make the decisions?

    Mike K (2cf494)

  85. Jackson-Lee should take notes on Tom Perriello-D of Virginia and the manner in which he has dealt with town halls and concerned citizens,

    Perriello opened the night in Charlottesville by saying: “I believe that everyone here is here on their own free will. I believe everyone here is a genuine citizen who’s expressing their views. And I think that the attempts on both sides to dehumanize the debate on both sides have not been helpful.”

    Perriello says he doesn’t mind if people blow off steam or raise their voices at him. He recommends that those who seek middle ground check out his smaller forums during the day.

    He stayed sharp on his feet while answering dozens of questions for more than two hours. Then he sat down to meet individually with those who stayed for a chance to meet him one on one.

    Perriello said he has yet to decide whether he will support any of the health care bills now moving through Congress.

    And not a cell phone in site – becaue Perriello was doing the far more serious kind of multi-tasking: he was valuing people, recognizing the individual’s importance, and doing the very hard work of listening. Jackson-Lee was not multi-tasking. She was being rude and selfish and disrespectful. No more, no less.

    Dana (57e332)

  86. Comment by Markj — 8/12/2009 @ 3:56 pm

    You aren’t linking me, and this angers me… 🙂

    Scott Jacobs (d027b8)

  87. Comment by Kristen — 8/12/2009 @ 6:17 pm

    I knew it! I never should have paid for that dinner!

    Scott Jacobs (d027b8)

  88. Here are some more pictures of the “good doctor”

    http://lonestartimes.com/2009/08/12/sheila-jackson-lee-town-hall-8-11/

    She is sitting in the front row

    mike in houston (bce7f2)

  89. […] As teh Democrat Noise Machine winds up it’s first couple of tries fail epically. They bussed in troops for New Hamphire and not it appears a star questioner at a Sheila Jackson Lee was a plant! […]

    Astroturf who? « justbarkingmad.com (9e0fc0)

  90. […] in her story. Commenter mike in houston says that he wrote reporter Cindy Horswell and received the following response: This is the name and occupation that she gave when she spoke at the public meeting. She also told […]

    Patterico’s Pontifications » Roxana Mayer: I’m Not a Doctor But I Play One at Town Hall Meetings (e4ab32)

  91. Denise:

    Please present verifiable evidence of GOP ‘plants’ at town hall meetings whose backgrounds were intentionally concealed as to lend nonpartisan credibility to the issue.

    It’s not enough to simply claim ‘they do it too’ without documented examples.

    We’ve got ’em. Where’s yours?

    Tailgunner (542846)

  92. I’m not a doctor…but I play one in DC.

    Tailgunner (542846)

  93. According to her LinkedIn page, she appears to be somewhat of the Bluto Blutarsky of her class at the University of Houston. The page claims her undegrad studies began in 1995 and ended in 2008.

    jimboster (fe0b27)

  94. Denise: What part of “Texas Delagate For OBAMA” are you missing?

    Dd (b9efec)

  95. I never defended the woman. If you saw that in my comments, then you didn’t understand what you read. However, having a strong belief in an opinion or a personal history of working for those beliefs does not mean one must never express ideas or opinions publicly. There is a stretch between acknowledging a commitment to a political platform and being a ‘plant.’

    But wait, a person with is a friend of a friend, lies about his profession and is placed at a meeting by a political party to get a specific point out to the media. Why does that sound familiar. Hmmm. I remember now! Joe the Plumber.

    I believe anyone reviewing the comments made in this listing by me and then by people addressing me would wonder why you all are so angry at the single most important point of my comments: Why is this newspaper making an editorial decision to pursue only pro health care speakers and not spending at least an equal amount of investigation on the screaming disrupters who, without exclusion, yell far right wing ideas at these meetings? And, if you all are interested in truth, you should be interested in all truth, not whatever happens to comfort you when someone disagrees.

    Denise (9465ce)

  96. Oh. And one last thing. To everyone asking me to ‘prove’ what I say, I’m not a reporter. I didn’t make up the screaming dissenters, we have all seen video of them. I am asking the professionals to bring their expertise and skill as investigators and researchers to the whole picture, particularly when it appears the point of the dissenters is not to support or argue a point, but to disrupt. Who are these people? Why are they so afraid of allowing people to discuss ideas that they take it upon themselves to damage public meetings? Are they doing this on their own? Are they answering the call, repeated again and again (I’ve seen the clips) by conservative commentators? Is it more organized than that? Are they lone people shouting extreme positions with such vehemence that the average person would feel uncomfortable being near them? Is the republican party ok with this type of representation of their ideals or are they equally shocked and disturbed by these people? These are questions a reporter might ask if their paper’s editors wanted to report on something that is happening consistently at these meetings. It is a reasonable question given that they dedicated time and space to chasing down one person who spoke, but did not seem intent on disrupting the process. I’m not a reporter or an editor. I’m just asking why this paper chooses the way it does. I don’t understand your anger or your assertions that I have some responsibility to do the paper’s work.

    Denise (9465ce)

  97. “I remember now! Joe the Plumber.”

    Denise – Absolutely Brilliant! Joe the Plumber was a plant because he was on his own property when Obama came through his neighborhood. Impeccable logic honey.

    daleyrocks (718861)

  98. Denise, she was an Obama stooge, sent by email from Obama’s OFA stooge mill.

    We all know it. The press covered it up, and repeated her lie that she had some expertise on health care.

    That’s so much different than Joe the Plumber asking Obama about health care. Joe indeed was a plumber, and you’re a jerk to lie that he wasn’t. Joe didn’t enter any debates. Obama stepped onto Joe’s freaking lawn and Joe asked Obama a great question.

    Obama’s answer was that Obama wanted to spread our wealth around. In other words, that Obama’s presidency would be socialist. It was embarrassing, so Obama stooges lied and trashed Joe. Some broke the law doing so.

    There’s just no parallel between the two.

    You say you didn’t defend this Roxana after breathlessly and aimlessly attempting to create doubt that she is guilty of being a plant.

    Perhaps you don’t understand what you’re saying, but I understand what I’m reading.

    Shame on you.

    Juan (bd4b30)

  99. Who are these people? Why are they so afraid of allowing people to discuss ideas that they take it upon themselves to damage public meetings? Are they doing this on their own? Are they answering the call, repeated again and again (I’ve seen the clips) by conservative commentators? Is it more organized than that? Are they lone people shouting extreme positions with such vehemence that the average person would feel uncomfortable being near them? Is the republican party ok with this type of representation of their ideals or are they equally shocked and disturbed by these people? These are questions a reporter might ask if their paper’s editors wanted to report on something that is happening consistently at these meetings.

    The enormous irony is, editors do not want to report on what’s happening at these meetings – in so much as speaking one-on-one with the protesters and actually presenting an even-handed portrayal of them in print.

    What the media is interested in is painting the protesters in a negative light and lending support and giving validation to the Pelosi-type rants of accusation and denigration of average mom & pop citizens who are just that fed up.

    There is not a journalistic curiosity, rather there is a political narrative that must be supported and pushed. And there is a media more than willing to be complicit in this.

    On top of that, now there is even more anger upon discovering a reporter knew something specific about a citizen posing as a doctor and then through a back approach, gives public support to the health care package. This was not a doctor and this was not an average citizen. This was an Obama delegate. And that information was kept from readers because a reporter decided readers didn’t need to know that. I suppose it’s along the same line as Ms. Mayer deciding that the audience didn’t need to know she wasn’t a real doctor.

    Dana (57e332)

  100. Denise, thanks for asking the types of questions that reveal all those who are attacking you have double standards that are making the rest of the nation realize their attacks fail to address the real issue, most Americans no longer can afford health care and the medical care industry is using them.

    Dorothy (cd6795)

  101. […] H/T and admirable digging at Patterico’s Pontifications: Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall Meeting? […]

    Dems, Water Your Plants! Another Possible Fake “Randomly Selected” Plant at Sheila Jackson Lee’s ObamaCare Texas Town Hall Meeting « Frugal Café Blog Zone (a66042)

  102. or your assertions that I have some responsibility to do the paper’s work.

    No, see, you made a claim, and so it is upon YOU to prove it. It is not our job to provide evidence of your claim.

    Either back up your idiotic claim, or STFU.

    Scott Jacobs (d027b8)

  103. Dorothy said ‘most Americans cannot afford health care’.

    Are you serious? Most Americans? Most of the people I know without any insurance can afford their health care. The ones with insurance are even better off, I’d imagine.

    ‘The medical community is using them’

    For what? What does that even mean?

    You defend Denise, even though she’s using an awful set of double standards. For Joe the Plumber, he’s a plant when Obama steps on his lawn and Joe asks him a question. For Roxana, it’s been devastatingly demonstrated she’s a plant, so no need to repeat myself.

    I’ve asked repeatedly to be pointed to some example of conservative plants at these health care meetings. Joe the Plumber is the response I got.

    You came here just to say ‘I agree!’ Why don’t you come up with an argument of some kind?

    Juan (bd4b30)

  104. Dana said:

    On top of that, now there is even more anger upon discovering a reporter knew something specific about a citizen posing as a doctor and then through a back approach, gives public support to the health care package. This was not a doctor and this was not an average citizen. This was an Obama delegate.

    Hell yeah that’s making me angry. So some lunatic who would probably sacrifice goats to Obama lied about something. I don’t really care. What’s annoying is that the people are relying on the Chronicle for journalism, and the Chronicle is lying by omission (I think Dana pointed this out way above). They knew this person was on the Obama campaign. No chance in hell they’d have treated a Mccain campaign staffer the same way. If a Mccain staffer had lied and pretended to be a doctor, and warned about a death panel, every paper in the country would put it on the front page.

    And look at the Chronicle’s story. Picture after picture of Sheila. The actual voters get 2 pictures. It’s basically a democrat commercial gone wrong.

    Juan (bd4b30)

  105. “their attacks fail to address the real issue, most Americans no longer can afford health care and the medical care industry is using them.”

    Dorothy – During his campaign, Obama promised to save average Americans $2,500 on health insurance. The current proposals coming out of Congress will increase costs, unless Obama gives them a massive subsidy and increases the deficit even further.

    What happened to Obama’s promises?

    daleyrocks (718861)

  106. I am waiting to hear Jackson – Lee denounce this fraud, who also happens to be an Obama delagate. Because surely Jackson-Lee doesn’t want to appear complicit in something so underhanded, does she???

    A little corner she’s been backed into….

    Dana (57e332)

  107. Wow, the Democrats bring in a ringer to counteract all of the mindless drones called up by the RNC to oppose health care reform. Add to that the fact the Republicans lied to us for eight years, sacrificed the lives of thousands of brave Americans, did more to roll back privacy protections than any President since Lincoln and destroyed more environment than most major climate shifts and you think a ringer at one town hall (and I’ll bet the ‘ringer’ wasn’t a ringer but someone who was not wanting to use their real name due to the BS the “Doctor of Death” the Republican have publicly castigated, misquoted and trashed without regard for the truth. Anyone ever thought of THAT???) is the end of the world as we know it????

    Get off your high-horses and drop the mock indignation. Your side is doing, and has done, far worse. Unlike those without critical thinking skills (which appears to be most of you) I refuse to get MY exercise jumping to erroneous or ill-informed conclusions this until all of the facts are in. One band-leading blog vomiting RNC garbage and innuendo is hardly an authoritative source for what’s going on in the country.

    Tell you all what, folks. You come up with a plan that allows everyone to gain access to affordable health care equally and even the Democrats will listen.

    Until then, and until you have facts that come from sources other than just the right wing, try to let the unbiased do the thinking in this country. We moderates let you yahoos run wild for too long. You don’t have our permission to come out of your cages yet.

    Fatesrider (a9448d)

  108. #82
    I know you didn’t ask me, but I think it’s a great question. I think the tipping point will pass by quietly, unnoticed, and then will wait for a spark, probably in the form of an event that makes people who normally disagree meet in the streets because mutual outrage demands it… so, the tension is potential energy that the particular event will shape. The tipping point? That will be the work of the Congress. They are the ones who are our direct voice in the process, and their disconnect will continue to up the pressure. Voted out in 2010? The pressure will drop – they stay in power, though, more pressure builds. The spark? I would lay that at the feet of the White House – hyperinflation, too brutal a response by the Fed to public gatherings (ala Neda, Kent State, etc), the GE sales to Iran scandal (considering Jeff Imelt’s closeness with the administration, etc. Each event brings outrage to different people, so how big the bang will result in how much pressure at the time and how broad the outrage. Kinda like a volcano – if we win back the House next year, bleeds off pressure and the tipping point gets father away – if not, the potential for Mt ST Helen’s should the wrong event occur.

    I would also like to state that I do not believe that the admin plans to start shooting as part of some evil conspiracy (but feel free to report me – I’ll be in good company 🙂 ), but tension and anger and guns can have unintended consquenses, so evil conspiracy or not, sparks happen. Let’s honestly hope not. We all know that our Founders sought redress over the act of violence many times, and, if addressed, we might still be English. That’s why Redress for Grievances is a First Amendment right and The right to Bear Arms comes after. (As a sidenote, I believe that the right to redress is oddly overlooked by everyone .)

    Interesting times in which we live.

    the Virginian (0635b6)

  109. Mark, she also cured a family of Swine Flu before the disease was even identified by the CDC.

    I’m impressed. ‘It’s Not Lupus’.

    These democrats are literally incredible.

    Juan (bd4b30)

  110. Your side is doing, and has done, far worse.

    Cite. Your. Examples.

    The RNC might support the idea of the “town-hall-uprising”, but they certainly haven’t been busing in people from other states to fill town hall meetings (unlike the Dems), nor have any of the anti-obamacare people assaulted pro-obamacare people (unlike several examples that demonstrate the oposite).

    (and I’ll bet the ‘ringer’ wasn’t a ringer but someone who was not wanting to use their real name due to the BS the “Doctor of Death” the Republican have publicly castigated, misquoted and trashed without regard for the truth. Anyone ever thought of THAT???) is the end of the world as we know it????

    Sadly, it’s been shown that she used her real name, but blatantly lied about her occupation. and beside her is the woman who can the Obama for President office that had a Che poster on the wall.

    So care to try again, dope?

    Scott Jacobs (d027b8)

  111. “I refuse to get MY exercise jumping to erroneous or ill-informed conclusions this until all of the facts are in.”

    Fatesrider – The first paragraph of your comment containing the above sentence completely refutes it. Don’t you hate it when you make internally refuting comments?

    daleyrocks (718861)

  112. Denise,

    Nice try…..very nice. First off, Joe wasn’t a plumber? What “proof” do you have of this? Oh wait, you’re not a reporter….I forgot…guess you don’t know how to “find” stuff on the internet.

    Secondly, you mention “screaming disrupters” who yell far right wing ideas…uh, I’ll give you this one. You’re right, they are “screaming”…I’m sure I would be as well (and I’m not a “plant”). Especially after Sheila Jackson Lee “takes” a phone call while someone asks her a question. Also, especially since no one seems to know exactly what is in this “bill” .

    I was thinking the other day, “I wonder how many of the Congressmen/women have actually read all 1000 pages?”. And yet, we’re going to ramrod this through the system as quickly as possible…???…hmmmmm…sounds a little “fishy” to me. I personally wouldn’t be surprised if the bill is passed before it is finalized….nothing about this administration has really “shocked” me yet.

    Now, concerning you (Denise), I have been very polite thus far in my response to you. However, surely you must realize that very few people posting on this site have any real compassion towards you or the party you serve. Therefore, if I may make a suggestion, please respond only about those things you know about. Don’t “smoke screen” us like so many of your fellow party members and try to make us believe that what “you’re” (and I use the term loosely) doing is something that I cannot, nor should even expect, to do without.

    I laugh at many of those poor souls who voted for so many of these “Demoncrats” because some have now started complaining about the current situation our once great country is facing. Of course, if you are a true “Demoncrat”, you will surely find a way to blame Bush for all of this. I would guess that it is Bush’s fault that the Republicans have planted “screaming disrupters” in the town hall meetings.

    In short, you people (those of your opinion) make me utterly and completely sick. Good Day…

    3KM4

    3KM4 (a6f012)

  113. […] in her story. Commenter mike in Houston says that he wrote reporter Cindy Horswell and received the following response: This is the name and occupation that she gave when she spoke at the public meeting. She also told […]

    Patterico’s Pontifications » Roxana Mayer: I’m Not a Doctor But I Play One at Town Hall Meetings | Are You Freaking Stupid? (4579df)

  114. […] 2 issues here…one media related and one a politcal setup…so I had 2 spots to put this… Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall Meeting? [QUOTE]A reader writes to raise questions about whether there was a Barack Obama plant at Jackson […]

    Houston Chronicle Whitewashes - Political Wrinkles (353baf)

  115. You people and your Boogie-man/Conspiritory theories crack me up. Obviously the trible age has come back into the American Social Structure….maybe the Middle East Lifestyle has had an influence on you.

    Dave (70d571)

  116. Wow it is amazing the lenghts you went to to try and prove that the Dems are pulling the same nasty tricks as The Republicans. I commend you on your hours of research. It’s to bad all you could find was one person who may or may not be a doctor. Since you could not find any proof either way I guess that means that you really have no proof what so ever of a plant.
    Now I know that you have been so brainwashed by your hatred of the Democrats That it would be impossible for you to believe they might be on the level.Our you could have done some research on the original claim of Republican plants. To find out if those claims are false to try and set the record straight..
    But instead you tried to prove that The Dems are as low and underhanded as the Republicans are. I guess you were going for the argument that it is ok to be slimy as long as I can prove the other side is also. The child’s argument of ” but mom everybody is doing it! So that makes it ok” As you know the answer to that is another question. if everybody is jumping off a cliff would you!I guess the old adage of two wrongs make a right is ok in your morality playbook!
    If you would have spent your time trying to disprove the allegations against the Reps rather trying to find wrong doing by the Dems it would have given you some credibility. Instead you just sound like another right wing spin head.
    Right here is the real problem in America. Our immaturity level is unacceptable. It should not matter if your a conservative our a liberal. Both sides should stand up and put there foot down against these types of politics. The win at all cost mentality is self destructive to our nation as a whole.

    nic (eddbc6)

  117. […] is it illegal? Roxana Mayer pretended she was a doctor at a Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall meeting and she spoke out in favor of the H.R. 3200, the health care reform bill – a bill that will […]

    How sad is this? at Bride of Rove (ca7f8e)

  118. […] at Ace of Spades, he points to Patterico who discovered an astroturfing “doctor” who supported the healthcare plan – but it […]

    This ain’t Hell, but you can see it from here » Blog Archive » Think Congress isn’t listening? (1603a4)

  119. As an underemployed journalist blogging as a media accountability watchdog I gotta point out that you had 22 hours more than the Chronicle reporter to unearth much of these facts.

    Sure she coulda fact checked this pretty quickly, but the record shows she was live within 8 hours of this event and your investigation was revealed almost a full day later.

    Good investigative work. I just wish my reporting colleagues had this kind of time to work with. That said, HC could fix the article online to reflect the facts that have surfaced. I used to do that kind of revision all the time when I had a full-time job.

    Karl (a8e37e)

  120. first she is hot. Second she was right about the subject matter

    MICHAEL SPENCER (9f89a5)

  121. So anyone who says anything supportive of health care reform, and happens to be an Obama supporter as well, is automatically a White House “plant”? Why do you people have such problems understanding that a person can say things you don’t agree with without there being some vast,left-wing conspiracy behind it? So anyone who shows up to say anything positive about health care reform is not allowed to have ever taken any sort of political action prior to this? Denise, you have it exactly right – don’t listen to these bozos.

    Mary (cdc7f5)

  122. Oh, look. The MySpace profile is “undergoing routine maintenance” now. Convenient.

    Jason (26d9c0)

  123. Mary, please, why don’t you read Patterico’s story before you comment? You wouldn’t appear nearly so dumb.

    Michael, the subject matter and the hotness of the fake doc is not the point. It’s the lying Democrats and their lying plants that is the subject of this post. And the fact that the Houston Chronicle didn’t bother to check its story before it published.

    Of course, the lady who wrote the story might be hot, also. You might use some of your valuable time and check that out, Michael. And by all means, get back to us on that.

    templar knight (f7c667)

  124. Republican plants and other dirty tricks:
    1. James Dale Guckert (born 1957) posed as a conservative columnist under the pseudonym Jeff Gannon and was given credentials as a White House reporter between 2003 and 2005.
    2. As part of selling the first Gulf War, a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl, known only by her first name of Nayirah appeared before congress to deliver moving testimony about the removal of 312 babies form incubators by the Iraqi army.
    It was not revealed that Nayirah was a member of the Kuwaiti Royal Family. Her father, in fact, was Saud Nasir al-Sabah, Kuwait’s Ambassador to the US, who sat listening in the hearing room during her testimony. The Caucus also failed to reveal that [PR firm]Hill-Knowlton vice-president Lauri Fitz-Pegado had coached Nayirah in what even the Kuwaitis’ own investigators later confirmed was false testimony.
    3. Non-believers were routinely barred from Bush rallies.
    – In Denver, three people were ushered out of a Bush speech because they had come in a car that sported a “No More Blood for Oil” bumper sticker. The group had done no protesting at the event, but were physically removed by a man who they thought was a Secret Service agent but came to learn was a local Republican staffer.
    – A similar incident occurred at the University of Arizona where a student with a “Young Democrats” T-shirt was barred from attending Bush’s forum on Social Security. His ticket was crumpled up by a staff member.
    – Some New Mexico residents were refused tickets to hear Vice President Dick Cheney speak at an event near Albuquerque, unless they signed an oath that they “endorse George W. Bush for re-election.”

    Ch (b27729)

  125. Social work?!

    I believe that field of study tends to attract people of a conservative nature … The type who will support a Republican instead of a Democrat, a McCain instead of an Obama.

    So there’s no way that is the same Roxana Mayer who attended Lee’s town meeting.

    Mark (re #27), that comment is about as ignorantly biased as anything I’ve ever heard or read. I worked in local gov for 14 years, right across the street from Social Services, my peers frequently interacted with social workers, and one of my staff was the son of a social worker. Political bent has almost nothing to do with being a social worker.

    I’m wasting words and space on this, but your bias is so obviously purposeful and so brainless that it’s infuriating. Purposeful ignorance like that is about 99% of the problem.

    I think the whole point, as has been pointed out numerous times, is to ask (demand) how can any politician can honestly say what will or will not be in the final bill?? The House bill is just one of 4 or 5 (or maybe 10) present or future versions. They can only hope to pass a final healthcare bill by the end of the year. Hopefully that will allow time for some good sense and a stronger dose of clarity — not to mention a lower price tag, which is entirely possible if they will stop trying to re-invent the programs that are already there and already work, more or less.

    The only good part of this debate is that a lot of people are being heard, even in MSM (yuck) news coverage, one of the very few times in my 50+ years that I’ve actually seen it work. And contrary to Specter’s “unrepresentative” remarks, those opinions do matter. And if we have truly representative government, then a few importan people will listen and think about a few important concerns, just to the point of including a little more clarity in the law will preclude anyone (I’m middle-agef white but my mother-in-law is a Black senior citizen) from losing any ground in their current medical “insurance” situation. But of course that requires objective intelligent thought and even some non-partisan political humility, and how often do we see that happen in DC? But is that really too much to ask?

    Bottom line, re this article and the entire subject of health care, I think it would benefit everyone to shrug off the obviously extreme fringe on all sides, which are always there, and focus and drill down into a few real questions … address a few real concerns in actual detail, instead of cloaking and politicking responses into a dark corner where they will continue to fester … and then simplify, simplify, simplify … don’t we already have 80-90% of a public health structure in place, several major programs that have existed for years or even decades, and why are the bureaucrats appearing to complicate it so badly??? … get real, accomplish something meaningful without breaking the fixtures that already exist, including the public bank account.

    JohnH (db7e9e)

  126. Ch, should I dare mention that Young Republicans at UNC-Greensboro (where my own daughter attended so this is not just random politicized here-say) practically came to be “legislated away” by school administration during the Clinton years? They were just a pacifist “lunch bunch” who had a column in the campus newspaper, but of course liberal academia never wants to be troubled by contrary political views.

    With just a couple more examples I could probably sink your ship like the Titanic, but it’s really not worth the time or trouble.

    JohnH (db7e9e)

  127. So anyone who says anything supportive of health care reform, and happens to be an Obama supporter as well, is automatically a White House “plant”?

    No, but someone who claims to be that which they are not, who further more were delegates for Obama and who show up and ask questions at Town Halls held by people who are not their Rep (Mrs Mayers does not live in SJL’s district) are to be considered highly suspect.

    Scott Jacobs (d027b8)

  128. […] only was Mayernot a doctor, Roxana Mayer was an Obama delegate, as Patterico discovered with some digging.  What’s more, the Houston Chronicle apparently […]

    Hot Air » Blog Archive » Video: ObamaCare fans take Astroturfing to a new level (e2f069)

  129. JohnH, What ship of mine are trying to sink like the Titanic?

    These folks here asked for some examples of right-wing “plants” and public meeting shenanigans, and I gave some.

    I don’t see how Young Republicans at UNC-Greensboro has anything to do with this particular discussion, other than as deflection.

    If you disagree with the examples I gave, then argue that point.

    Ch (b27729)

  130. “I don’t know what there is in the bill that creates such panic,” [Mayer] said.

    Just because Mayer (whoever she is) doesn’t see it, does that mean that no one else can see it either? But again I say that nobody can see anything clearly right now because a final bill has not been passed.

    First and foremost, #1, none of us want Congress to work totally in the dark, behind closed doors. As much as anything, I think that’s what this debate is all about. A lot of us just want a little more light on the subject. And for God’s sake, if the politicians don’t not know the real answer to any question right now (because the legislation is not final yet), why can’t they just say “I don’t really know those details yet, but I hear your concern and I will campaign and press to make sure that doesn’t happen”? What’s so hard about giving a real and honest answer??!? In that sense, to me the process simply seems to be too rushed. There is too much proposed legislation and not nearly enough discourse, again, shedding more light onto the most significant legislation since FDR. We have been without a consolidated public health plan for a long time. Why can’t we now take the reasonable time that is most certainly needed to do it right, just a few weeks more to address some very reasonable concerns with clarity and sincerity, and plan correctly? Is the urgency just for political expedience?? In fact that is my number one personal concern, and it will be a concern until I can see and believe that more of our leaders are willing to slow down, show that they are listening, and then explain something reasonably, instead of “humoring” (as with children) those who might be making some valid points.

    In short, to put it bluntly, I would really appreciate a lot less snobbish elitism from people like Pelosi and Specter, and lot more reasonable consideration from government as a whole, beginning at the top, by example.

    If people speak out with honest questions or concerns, especially in the absence of final details, that does not make anyone stupid or un-American.

    JohnH (db7e9e)

  131. JohnH – what ship of mine are you trying to sink? You did not address anything in my post.

    Some folks here asked for examples of right-wing “plants” and other public event shenanigans, and I gave several, all easily checked out. If you disagree with my examples, then argue that point, don’t just try to deflect.

    I don’t see what the Young Republicans at UNC-Greensboro has to do with this discussion. if you want to provoke another debate about political correctness on campus, then fair enough, but that is not what this thread is about.

    Ch (b27729)

  132. […] day of the town hall and the report by the Houston Chronicle, Patterico’s Pontifications and Lone Star Times immediately knew something was fishy about Ms. Mayer’s story (you know, […]

    UrbanGrounds | Mrs. (Not Doctor) Roxana Mayer: Dumber Than an Actual Plant (7a8dc1)

  133. At least the Dem’s are allowing alternative viewpoints to be heard in a public forum. The previous regime had people arrested for being within shouting distance of the motorcade routes. I think we’re seeing progress.

    Go-O (2b4d57)

  134. #135 you and the rest of your whining liberal colleagues can’t stand it when your lies are exposed. If your side hadn’t been SO GREEDY, you wouldn’t have woken up the sleeping giant!

    ADA (ac2cfc)

  135. I reported this to the flag@whitehouse.gov fishy info email address. I guess the thugs will be on their way shortly. Maybe if everyone would report this, it would take them a while to get to us all.

    Lynn B (99dedb)

  136. ch, gannon wasn’t a plant. He was simply biassed. People have been asking friendly reporters if they have any questions for eons.

    Fact is, Bush faces a press corps that was hostile. Having one or two included that weren’t is so far from a plant it’s absurd you think this is some kind of scandal.

    Obama’s press corps worships Obama and asks how they can help Obama… this is something much closer to what you’re complaining about.

    In fact, all of your examples are absurd projections. Why is that? Why is it that liberals always come in here when Obama is responsible for a deception and talk about Bush. Even if they did get the facts right, which they don’t, it doesn’t excuse Obama.

    This was Obama’s community organization. He set this up. He’s responsible for all the plants and liars he’s sending to lie to America about the bill. Saying that a doctor sees absolutely nothing wrong in the entire bill is a major lie.

    Juan (bd4b30)

  137. For those who’ve forgotten what they were doing between ’00 & ’08, when speaking truth to power was the apogee of democratic speech:
    H/T Instapundit, 8/12 @ 10:33pm

    When Bush visited Portland, Ore., for a fundraiser, protesters stalked his motorcade, assailed his limousine and stoned a car containing his advisers. Chanting “Bush is a terrorist!”, the demonstrators bullied passers-by, including gay softball players and a wheelchair-bound grandfather with multiple sclerosis.

    One protester even brandished a sign that seemed to advocate Bush’s assassination. The man held a large photo of Bush that had been doctored to show a gun barrel pressed against his temple. . . . Although reporters from numerous national news organizations were traveling with Bush and witnessed the protest, none reported that protesters were shrieking at Republican donors epithets like “Slut!” “Whore!” and “Fascists!”

    AD - RtR/OS! (2a3014)

  138. […] scenario has played out in the past two days in the case of a certain Roxana Mayer. In two posts (here and here), LA-area blogger Patterico, best known for his relentless skewering of the target-rich […]

    BizzyBlog (4b2e1b)

  139. Faux pas Dr.Roxana Mayer delivered the California octuplets at the request of Nancy Peloopy. In attendance were the three Emmanuel stooges and emcee-ing it all was the blathering idiot Gibbs. The Savior gave his blessing.

    Section 1233 of the Health Care package brings to my mind the ancient ritual of my ancestors. I am Innuit Eskimo. Hundreds of years ago, when an old and disabled Eskimo was unable to provide for the family or was thisclose to death, the family and villagers gathered together for a final celebration of that life. The “honoree” would be praised for his/her life’s accomplishments and complimented for a “job well done.” And with much singing and dancing that elder would be placed on an ice floe in the ocean and left there to die.

    Is THIS where Obama got the idea while implementing Section 1233 of his health plan?

    Erina (921d76)

  140. No news here! We who live in around Houston know exactly how this woman operates…If a microphone or camera is anywhere close, she is there. If you can’t take the heat…get out of the kitchen Sheila! Here is hoping someone will finally run against this woman who while looking a images from Mars asked the operator of the rover to move it where they could see the American Flag (thinging she was looking at images from the Moon! She is arrogant and needs to go, like so many others need to as well!

    Lynn (1489e2)

  141. […] Roxanne is an aspiring social worker and — although the Comical didn’t find this worth mentioning — an Obama […]

    Sheila Jackson Lee’s Phony Doctor : Stop The ACLU (dae8af)

  142. Remember the CNN debates where every questioner in the audience was a carefully selected shill? I’m beginning to think there’s never been a non-shill audience for Obama and his band of lying whores. Great job, media. You really know how to instill confidence.

    Django (3d42a6)

  143. […] Roxanne is an aspiring social worker and — although the Comical didn’t find this worth mentioning — an Obama […]

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  144. The Texas Medical Board allows you to search their list of all doctors with a license to practice in the state. A search turns up no Roxana Mayer practicing in the state.

    ChrisB (60e6a8)

  145. 126.Republican plants and other dirty tricks:
    1. James Dale Guckert (born 1957) posed as a conservative columnist under the pseudonym Jeff Gannon and was given credentials as a White House reporter between 2003 and 2005.
    2. As part of selling the first Gulf War, a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl, known only by her first name of Nayirah appeared before congress to deliver moving testimony about the removal of 312 babies form incubators by the Iraqi army.
    It was not revealed that Nayirah was a member of the Kuwaiti Royal Family. Her father, in fact, was Saud Nasir al-Sabah, Kuwait’s Ambassador to the US, who sat listening in the hearing room during her testimony. The Caucus also failed to reveal that [PR firm]Hill-Knowlton vice-president Lauri Fitz-Pegado had coached Nayirah in what even the Kuwaitis’ own investigators later confirmed was false testimony.
    3. Non-believers were routinely barred from Bush rallies.
    – In Denver, three people were ushered out of a Bush speech because they had come in a car that sported a “No More Blood for Oil” bumper sticker. The group had done no protesting at the event, but were physically removed by a man who they thought was a Secret Service agent but came to learn was a local Republican staffer.
    – A similar incident occurred at the University of Arizona where a student with a “Young Democrats” T-shirt was barred from attending Bush’s forum on Social Security. His ticket was crumpled up by a staff member.
    – Some New Mexico residents were refused tickets to hear Vice President Dick Cheney speak at an event near Albuquerque, unless they signed an oath that they “endorse George W. Bush for re-election.”

    Comment by Ch — 8/13/2009 @ 6:37 am

    Ch,

    Can you please provide internet links to “prove” these accusations that you are making?

    3KM4

    3KM4 (a6f012)

  146. 135.At least the Dem’s are allowing alternative viewpoints to be heard in a public forum. The previous regime had people arrested for being within shouting distance of the motorcade routes. I think we’re seeing progress.

    Comment by Go-O — 8/13/2009 @ 8:40 am

    You’re not even worth the amount of words I’m using to respond to your post…I D 10 T

    3KM4

    3KM4 (a6f012)

  147. 123.So anyone who says anything supportive of health care reform, and happens to be an Obama supporter as well, is automatically a White House “plant”? Why do you people have such problems understanding that a person can say things you don’t agree with without there being some vast,left-wing conspiracy behind it? So anyone who shows up to say anything positive about health care reform is not allowed to have ever taken any sort of political action prior to this? Denise, you have it exactly right – don’t listen to these bozos.

    Comment by Mary — 8/13/2009 @ 5:52 am

    Mary,

    So now we (those of liberal persuasion) resort to name-calling? Nice…very nice. Let me get my name-calling out of the way. You are a worthless piece of human excrement that doesn’t deserve to be in the same presence as those on here who actually have a brain. Please go away…I think I hear your daddy calling you to come service his “needs”…does that bring back “sweet” memories for you?

    3KM4

    3KM4 (a6f012)

  148. […] scenario has played out in the past two days in the case of a certain Roxana Mayer. In two posts (here and here), LA-area blogger Patterico, best known for his relentless skewering of the target-rich […]

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  149. […] in her story. Commenter mike in houston says that he wrote reporter Cindy Horswell and received the following response: This is the name and occupation that she gave when she spoke at the public meeting. She also told […]

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  150. #

    Who cares.First, she looks way better and hotter than the female conservative nutjobs at these town halls. Second, she sounded so much more articulate and reasonable. Third her remarks were truthful. Let’s see, a Dem plant that pretty, smart, and truthful…Well I guess I would not want that

    Comment by MICHAEL SPENCER — 8/12/2009 @ 4:49 pm

    Her remarks were truthful?? She is an admitted liar. Pretty much debunks her debate on the issues. She is not truthful rather a LIAR!!! Ok, I’ll give you this. She is a pretty liar!! You think the dems are going to plant an ugly one???

    Kirk (9db1e0)

  151. #118

    Wow it is amazing the lenghts you went to to try and prove that the Dems are pulling the same nasty tricks as The Republicans. I commend you on your hours of research. It’s to bad all you could find was one person who may or may not be a doctor. Since you could not find any proof either way I guess that means that you really have no proof what so ever of a plant.(snipped)

    Comment by nic — 8/13/2009 @ 4:01 am

    Well I guess we now know whom is brainwashed as we do have the proof that you claim we don’t have. Not only that she has admitted to it and there is verifiable evidence that she was a Obama Campaign worker.

    Nic, you might try that investigation that you talked about before posting such ignoramus remarks.

    Kirk (9db1e0)

  152. […] reporting on the fake doctor who turned up at Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee’s town hall. Turns out Obama delegate and Organizing for America activist Roxana Mayer, who lied about being a pediatrician, was invited […]

    Michelle Malkin » Obamacare/OFA stage props in Houston: “One is a Che Guevara fan and the other lies about being a doctor.” (e2f069)

  153. Her lack of ethics is breathtaking. Her master degree and any future consideration in being state licensed as a social worker should be at stake over this. What lies, as a “professional,” wouldn’t she be willing to tell in the future (under presumably much less scrutinized circumstances)?

    donny (a9b97a)

  154. One of the comments above stated: “Second, she sounded so much more articulate and reasonable.” You have to be kidding! The one time I watched the video, I thought, “There is no way that this woman is a graduate of any medical school … at least any medical school worth going to.” Articulate? If this is what you call articulate, then maybe you’ll be happy with the quality of health care you receive, should this heinous bill pass and become law.

    Laura J. (e1270c)

  155. […] Patterico’s Pontifications » Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall Meeting? […]

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  156. I love this one…Obama stated that AARP fully endorsed the health care bill being formulated…AARP has since stated that they in no way endorse this bill. Hmmmm. Guess ol’ BO don’t know $h1t….haha…

    Here’s the link for you commie leftist |3 4 $ T 4 R |) ‘ $…

    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/52415

    PS…Denise…took me all of 30 seconds to find this on the internet…I’m not a reporter but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn………….for the libs that behave “stupidly” and can’t figure out how to view my link, please follow these steps:
    1) open front door
    2) place head (only your head) outside
    3) place one hand on door and the other on door frame
    4) slam door shut repeatedly until you forget your last name
    5) repeat at least one more time

    3KM4 (a6f012)

  157. […] [tm]. When the right attacks phony town hall members with political connections or those who impersonate doctors at a health care debate. That is “Mob rule”, “evil” or the work of the insurance […]

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  158. […] tell me it ain’t so!. Turns out Obama delegate and Organizing for America activist Roxana Mayer, who lied about being a pediatrician, was invited […]

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  159. […] tell me it ain’t so!. Turns out Obama delegate and Organizing for America activist Roxana Mayer, who lied about being a pediatrician, was invited […]

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  160. […] in her story. Commenter mike in houston says that he wrote reporter Cindy Horswell and received the following response: This is the name and occupation that she gave when she spoke at the public meeting. She also told […]

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  161. […] has a video of the event, many photos from the event, a great expose lead-in article and the expose itself about this entire Phony Doc […]

    FROM PATTERICO, ACE & HOTAIR: OBAMA CAMPAIGN WORKER FAKES BEING A DOCTOR W/REP. SHEILA JACKSON LEE – suzyrice.com/BIRD (47121e)

  162. […] Mayer: I’m Not a Doctor But I Play One at Town Hall Meetings [This post follows up on a previous post in which I questioned the credentials of a woman at a Texas town hall meeting who claimed to be a […]

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  163. […] up Obama Save Capitalism: Peter Schiff hit-piece by MSNBC Patterico’s Pontifications: Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson-Lee Town Hall Meeting? The American Dissident, A Literary Journal of Critical Thinking: Myths and Hypocrisies Brian […]

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  164. […] a national disgrace Ed Driscoll: Sheila Jackson-Lee Phones It In Patterico’s Pontification:Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall Meeting? and Roxana Mayer: I’m Not a Doctor But I Play One at Town Hall Meetings Doug Powers, Michelle […]

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  165. […] was unmasked by Pat Frey at Patterico’s Pontifications here and here. What’s more, the reporter from Chronicle knew Mayer was an Obama delegate and had […]

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  166. […] Lee or Your Lying Eyes? Ed Driscoll: Sheila Jackson-Lee Phones It In Patterico’s Pontifications:Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall Meeting? and Roxana Mayer: I’m Not a Doctor But I Play One at Town Hall Meetings Doug Powers, Michelle […]

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  167. […] But as Hannity reported, the blogger behind “Patterico’s Pontifications” dug through some readily available Internet data bases, and discovered that “Dr. Roxana Mayer,” wasn’t a doctor at all, but a graduate student in social work at the University of Houston — and a Texas Obama delegate during the 2008 election. […]

    “She’s not a doctor, but she plays one at town hall meetings” — Hannity « NewsReal Blog (9d6513)

  168. […] up Obama Save Capitalism: Peter Schiff hit-piece by MSNBC Patterico’s Pontifications: Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson-Lee Town Hall Meeting? The American Dissident, A Literary Journal of Critical Thinking: Myths and Hypocrisies Brian […]

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  169. […] up Obama Save Capitalism: Peter Schiff hit-piece by MSNBC Patterico’s Pontifications: Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson-Lee Town Hall Meeting? The American Dissident, A Literary Journal of Critical Thinking: Myths and Hypocrisies Vets On The […]

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  170. […] for NFL floor speech Ed Driscoll: Sheila Jackson-Lee Phones It In Patterico’s Pontifications:Hmmm: Was There a Plant at the Sheila Jackson Lee Town Hall Meeting? and Roxana Mayer: I’m Not a Doctor But I Play One at Town Hall Meetings Doug Powers, Michelle […]

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  171. […] only was Mayernot a doctor, Roxana Mayer was an Obama delegate, as Patterico discovered with some digging.  What’s more, the Houston Chronicle apparently knew […]

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