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10/16/2008

Move Along, No Sexism to See Here

Filed under: 2008 Election,Scum — Patterico @ 12:55 am



Luckily, all the ugliness in this campaign is on the right. Luckily, nobody on the left is contemptuous of Sarah Palin because she’s a woman.

If they were, they might be selling T-shirts of McCain having sex with Palin doggie-style. (Not safe for work, in case you had any doubt.)

I’m sure there are similar T-shirts of Obama boning Biden.

Because there is no sexism in this campaign. Racism, you bet. Every time those Republicans link Obama with that white male terrorist, you can be sure racism is to blame.

But sexism? In this campaign? Nah!

76 Responses to “Move Along, No Sexism to See Here”

  1. Here’s my minor contribution to fascism and speech-squelching: anyone who expresses any amusement at this gets their comment deleted and will probably be banned. It’s a great way to identify bannable commenters, and I plan to take full advantage of it. All moderators are free to delete and ban at will.

    Patterico (cc3b34)

  2. See, when they do it, it’s parody. And it’s justified because of the laundry list of her sins, real and imagined, that they got from Kos and so forth.

    I honestly wouldn’t mind crap like this if the Obama camp and their water-carriers didn’t shriek like little girls whenever McCain says words like “that” and “one” in a row.

    Jim Treacher (592cb4)

  3. It’s a T-shirt company, and one of those “outrageous” T-shirt companies that glom on to anything they think will sell product to the demographic who believes wearing a T-shirt with a message makes them cool or means anything.

    You use the word “campaign” four times in your post, like the campaign had anything to do with this or endorsed this, which is false.

    It’s some low rent amoral operation trying to rip some bucks from stupid and crude people.

    If you want some examples of other low rent amoral operations trying to rip some bucks from a different type of stupid and crude people cutting the other way ideologically I’m sure I can find them.

    Aplomb (b6fba6)

  4. What in the world is going on – what print shop actually took that order? Why risk a ton of legal trouble for a bunch of looney toons?

    And did you see that Obama heard about the other Palin t-shirts during the debate – I swear he suppressed a grin – seriously – I’m not a total nut 99.7% but not 100%

    rewind it his first reaction was a ten percent grin when McCain mentioned it

    Here is how Obama handled his elections

    Got his democrat opponents disqualified

    Had his cronies sue to open his Republican opponents child custody hearing case files opened to the public and manufactured a sex scandal between a husband and his wife (the ex-wife actually came out in defense of her ex-husband)

    Did anyone remember that travesty?

    the Judge was a Democrat Part Hack an appointee of the only governor in US history to be recalled by the people in modern times
    http://www.metnews.com/articles/2008/schn091708.htm

    Also…

    Doesn’t the wearing and selling of shirts like that violate obscentity laws

    EricPWJohnson (47b9ab)

  5. What do you mean Every time those Republicans link Obama with that white male terrorist, you can be sure racism is to blame.
    ?

    The Democrat mantra seems to be a take on the old joke:

    How can you tell when a Rebublican is a racist? Their lips are moving.

    Dr. K (0580a0)

  6. I should be shocked. But I’m not. *shakes head*

    Hope the Palin or McCain family never sees these. I can just see some liberal showing up to a rally and claiming “free speech” in front of the conservatives’ toddlers.

    If you want some examples of other low rent amoral operations trying to rip some bucks from a different type of stupid and crude people cutting the other way ideologically I’m sure I can find them.
    Comment by Aplomb — 10/16/2008 @ 1:47 am

    Wellll…even “low rent amoral operations” want money, and — this is just a guess? — but I think they know what the relative likelihood of enough conservatives wanting to wear a T-shirt showing Obama gettin’ superfriendly with Biden vs. enough liberals wanting a shirt like the one above.

    Gee, I wonder what the numbers would look like on that?

    But feel free to go hunt around. Am sure you’re right – there are probably lots and lots of those fuddy-duddy, sex-hatin’, religion-clingin’ conservatives who’d be tickled pink to show up at the country music concert or Sunday church picnic wearing one of those.

    no one you know (1ebbb1)

  7. You use the word “campaign” four times in your post, like the campaign had anything to do with this or endorsed this, which is false.

    He didn’t use “Obama campaign” he used the word ‘campaign’ describing the overall presidential race. And why was the McCain/Palin campaign blamed for winding up crowds with hate when the kill him wasn’t even true?

    liontooth (0edfdb)

  8. Sen. Obama never did apologize for calling a white, female, reporter “Sweetie”.

    Sen. Obama never apologized for calling Gov. Palin a stinky fish smelling pig (w. lipstick).

    Sen. Obama never apologized to Sen. Clinton for saying she would be too unstable during her period to act as a C-in-C, if elected.

    Sen. Obama’s website featured a picture of the “Sarah Palin is a C—” tee shirt.

    So while this specific tee-shirt might not have been authorized by the campaign, the tone of disrespect for women certainly has…

    Adriane (b8ecd8)

  9. Karl Rove is behind this. He will likely have the whole production shipped to Obama campaign offices, prepaid, with a letter instructing Obama foot soldiers to wear them when they go knocking on doors. The man is evil, purely evil.

    nk (f2ee58)

  10. Both parties have their nuts, but us bickering over the quantity on each side is pointless. Of course it needs to stop on both sides.

    Yeah, keep on stirring this hate-filled shit Patterico. The more you stir it, the more it stinks. I think it would be better to just ignore the lunatic fringe.

    Psyberian (37b2ae)

  11. The Republican lunatic fringe isn’t running for President. The Democratic is.

    Or is flipping the bird on national tv presidential behavior where you come from?

    Adriane (b8ecd8)

  12. Adriane- you beat me to it. That alone would have given the MSM reason to hound McCain out of the rce, and it should have been enough to hound Obama out of the race, especially since it was the Dem primaries and Dem against Dem.

    It would be worthwhile to have the documentation of the Obama site showing a picture of the T-shirt in question. If the Obama campaign wanted to distance themselves from it they should ban the wearing of it at Obama appearances- you wear it, you don’t get in.

    So, we’re on the verge of electing someone who thinks he is the one we have been waiting for, who can heal the sick and stop the oceans from rising, lie through his teeth, and do obscene gestures on camera without consequence. If we get the government we deserve, and Obama gets elected, we must have been very bad.

    nk-
    I think you could infiltrate and subvert the whole left. I can see it now, “The Hourly nk”.

    MD in Philly (3d3f72)

  13. MD — Here is the documentation of the T-shirt on Obama’s site. Language warning.

    Evil Pundit (843b74)

  14. nk-
    I think you could infiltrate and subvert the whole left. I can see it now, “The Hourly nk”.

    Karl Rove has assigned certain of my sept-mates, who have been augmented to pass as leftists, to that job. I am primarily a source of unmodified genetic material for more clone Rove troopers.

    nk (f2ee58)

  15. The overwhelming amount of comments I get on my site are about Sarah Palin and they are completely sexist. You should see some of the emails I am getting about her, its makes me ill. If you are a Republican woman and you are attractive you are a target, they wouldnt dare do this to a liberal woman. Even as a conservative female blogger, especially since I put my picture on my site, I am getting a lot of that as well. It’s a big problem but no one really cares, which is why I think the PUMAS are frankly so angry and so against obama and the media.

    Nancy (fc83d1)

  16. *test* –post from awhile ago not appearing. Uh oh. What’d I do? :)

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  17. Sorry, now it shows. Prolly blind today.

    no one you know (1f5ddb)

  18. Nancy, the Dems have long-since been exposed as the true party of sexism. I left the party in 1998 when feminists stood up for Clinton, who at best is a serial womanizer and at worst is a rapist. Yes, I said he is a rapist.

    Defending that, in a president no less, and working to destroy all his female accusers…it doesn’t get any worse. The Dems are all about personal destruction, hate based on gender and race, etc. The proof is irrefutable and all around us.

    Peg C. (48175e)

  19. Um, so sorry for the OT if anyone can see this but..comments gone again. DRJ or Patterico, I di’n’t do nothin’, I swear… :)

    no one you know (112755)

  20. Forgetaboutit, Dems don’t care how rude, course, or hateful they are. All collectivists understand the ends justify the means. They must win and they’ll do whatever it takes. No silly bourgeois notions of proper etiquette can be allowed to slow the glorious march into the worker’s paradise.

    The Left’s ideals are so noble, so wonderful, so necessary for the future of all humanity, and also for plants and animals too, including polyesters, that any outrageous misbehavior is allowed and approved if it helps to defeat the enemies of the people. In fact, offending the middle-class is useful, it temporarily immobilizes the bourgeoisie and they can’t fight back.

    Shocking and offending the sensibilities of the middle-class is one of the tactics used by activists to gain advantage. Don’t fall for it.

    Ropelight (80557f)

  21. Probably got a bulk order from NOW.

    Kevin Murphy (0b2493)

  22. The Democrats think obscenity is cool. Just look at the comments they post, especially on the left wing sites. This fits some sort of world view they have. Probably hatred of parents or something.

    Look at the Sarah Bernhardt thing for an example. I really wonder about women on the left and their self image. I cut out this article last month for my daughter who is a college freshman. She read it and agreed that it is accurate and describes what she sees in a large state university.

    Fortunately, she has rapidly matured in the three months since she started and I am much more confident about her judgement since she began college. One of her friends has been raped. She sees sororities encouraging girls to get drunk at parties, an invitation to rape. She told me last week that a guy she was casually dating told her she was the only conservative girl he had met.

    Interesting times for girls in college. I think the Palin abuse is related to this trend. Women have made objects of themselves and resent anyone who resists the pattern.

    Mike K (2cf494)

  23. Both parties have their nuts, but us bickering over the quantity on each side is pointless. Of course it needs to stop on both sides.

    This is such a weak-kneed equivocation. Putting aside the fact that I very much doubt that Republicans are selling t-shirts as racist as those materials are sexist, who cares if both sides are doing it– you can still express outrage at trash of this sort. Attempting to keep the pot unstirred by throwing up your hands and shrugging is completely shallow.

    Maydayog (4400c6)

  24. By definition, Dems cannot be any kind of -ist or participate in any type of -ism. They are pure of heart and noble of purpose.

    JD (f7900a)

  25. Offensive t-shirts = target markers

    Another Drew (6ac001)

  26. AD – There is not an ounce of shame amongst Sen. Dodd, Rep. Frank, and the Dems in general.

    JD (f7900a)

  27. There will be another name for those wearing such libtard T-shirts after the coming civil war starts – targets

    Bill30097 (cd3e2b)

  28. We need to honor these great leaders of the Republic.
    I suggest a series of banquets, with each as an honored guest, to receive the coveted “T&F” award;
    followed by the ceremonial parade to the city limits on a rail.
    Torches and pitchforks optional.

    Another Drew (6ac001)

  29. I think that going by the left-wing talking points it isn’t sexism because public figures should be free to drill baby drill anyone they want without worry of public scorn. Especially when they ride in on a wave of anger over previous Florida sex scandals or bribe those they pipeline with campaign cash. Whoops, got a little off-topic there. In any case, this is surely just a poorly designed salute to the left’s moral “progressiveness”.

    NeoconNews.com (2a37f8)

  30. Both parties have their nuts, but us bickering over the quantity on each side is pointless. Of course it needs to stop on both sides.

    That’s why all the Obamatrons said “no biggie” over the great “Kill Him” fiasco.

    pmm (90af92)

  31. The way to shut this type of stuff down is to tie it to the intended beneficiary; ie, Obama. No, his campaign didn’t produce the shirts, but his supporters did. Would produce a big reaction against Obama.

    Isn’t there a way to get this trash in front of the voting public without totally grossing them out? McCain alluded to the other grotesque t-shirts in the debate last night, but the allusion was so indirect, I’m sure 99% of the viewers had no idea what he was talking about. NOw, perhaps the Palins and the McCains would prefer that this type of stuff never see the light of day, they have kids after all, and if they feel that way, I would certainly defer to their wishes. Otherwise, I would be inclined to put a spotlight on it.

    james23 (f2e79d)

  32. To those of you who think that vile t-shirts are something that only the left would create:

    http://current.com/items/88955292_curious_george_tshirt_used_to_depict_obama_causes_outrage

    Try again.

    TG Chicago (2b8752)

  33. In fairness, (because Democrats are all about fairness) and to maximize their profits (because Democrats are really only about money), shouldn’t they also have a similar T-shirt featuring the Obama and Biden? Of course, they would have a highly intellectual discussion over who should be in front and who should be in back.

    John (5ab406)

  34. OK, let me get this straight. People on the left have been calling President Bush a chimp for eight years. It’s on T-shirts, bumper stickers, and buttons, it’s standard fare in comedy routines, and this is all perfectly OK. Just satirical political humor.

    A Google search for the words “Bush” and “chimp” returns 1,690,000 hits.

    But when a T-shirt depicts Obama as a chimp, that’s “vile” and an “outrage”.

    TG Chicago, are you familiar with the word “hypocrisy”? You may want to look it up.

    Harry (855d36)

  35. TG Chicago
    I’d like to see proof that anyone agreed with and purchased one of the Curious George shirts.

    The anti-Palin shirts have apparently been big sellers among the Obama’s nutroots supporters. And, unlike McCain, The One has offered no condemnation in the direction of the shirts’ libelous creators. His acquiescence equals tacit approval.

    Wingo (f985a6)

  36. #

    To those of you who think that vile t-shirts are something that only the left would create:

    http://current.com/items/88955292_curious_george_tshirt_used_to_depict_obama_causes_outrage

    Try again.

    Comment by TG Chicago — 10/16/2008 @ 10:03 am

    So after years of seeing “Bush is a chimp,” “Chimpy McHaliburton” and all sorts of other “hilarious” imagery juxtaposing Bush and monkey, it’s suddenly “out of bounds” for Obama?

    Why?

    CW Desiato (614aa7)

  37. If anyone recognizes the skank posing in the Tee on the site, how about printing up the pic and mailing it to her mom?

    Mom will be soooo proud, I’m sure………

    Anna Lemma (d2864f)

  38. Comment by Harry — 10/16/2008 @ 10:29 am

    TG doesn’t have to do any heavy lifting to discerne the meaning of the word “hypocrite”,
    all he has to do is gaze into the nearest mirror.

    Another Drew (6ac001)

  39. Wow. That Curious George tee sure is vile.

    cboldt (3d73dd)

  40. Aplomb,

    Campaign was in a generic sense. Maybe you should wonder why you jump to thinking of Obama’s campaign, truth hurts sometimes.

    Mark (611c36)

  41. Dumb-a-crats are becoming a parity, of themselves.

    steve m. (f0d6ab)

  42. I think these say it all.

    http://shop.cafepress.com/anti-palin

    http://www.cafepress.com/rightwingstuff

    Notice how immature and sexist those Democrats really are.

    ML (14488c)

  43. Typical lefty attitude of ‘hate speech for me but no speech for thee’.

    Lady D (a33ad6)

  44. “But when a T-shirt depicts Obama as a chimp, that’s “vile” and an “outrage””

    “So after years of seeing “Bush is a chimp,” “Chimpy McHaliburton” and all sorts of other “hilarious” imagery juxtaposing Bush and monkey, it’s suddenly “out of bounds” for Obama”

    There are plenty of racial slurs that present African Americans as monkeys, chimps, apes..etc. Obama happens to be African American. It’s offensive and racist.

    If you don’t think so, I challenge you to walk down the street and call a white person a monkey and then call a black person a monkey. See what happens. Then you’ll know why those shirts are a problem.

    mj (c39ebb)

  45. TG Chicago,

    The point isn’t that only lefties do things despicable. The point is that we keep having to hear about something fringe righties did while the same crude behavior from the left gets generally ignored.

    Benson (940e54)

  46. mj

    That’s standard American double standards.

    Notice how black rappers use a certain word in their lyrics, that if used by white rappers would be considered offensive, even thought the context is exactly the same.

    Since President Bush is white he can be called all types of vile names, like Hitler and such, too bad for him he isn’t half-black, then he would be above reproach.

    But realize the T-shirt that shows Obama as a chimp is only making fun of Obama’s typical white person “white-half”, not his untypical unhinged “black-half”.

    ML (14488c)

  47. Wingo said:

    TG Chicago
    I’d like to see proof that anyone agreed with and purchased one of the Curious George shirts.

    The anti-Palin shirts have apparently been big sellers among the Obama’s nutroots supporters. And, unlike McCain, The One has offered no condemnation in the direction of the shirts’ libelous creators. His acquiescence equals tacit approval.

    So you ask for proof, then follow with “apparently” the anti-Palin shirts have been big sellers? Odd that I’m being called a hypocrite.

    To ML, the person who posted the cafepress links, thanks for proving my point:

    http://shop.cafepress.com/anti-obama

    Immaturity and vile opinions exist on both ends of the political spectrum.

    The problem with this post is that it blames the campaign. The shirt in question doesnt come from the Obama campaign any more than this shirt comes from the McCain campaign:

    http://aryanwear.com/images/obama-monkey-shirt.jpg

    I mean, seriously – what is your point here? Do you really think that only the eeeeevil Left is capable of being grotesque in its characterizations of its opponents? Surely anyone with eyes can see that it comes from both sides.

    I dont think the shirt linked in this post is terribly relevant since it comes from a site that seems to be more about anti-authoritarianism and anarchy (check out their other political t-shirts; there arent any pro-Obama shirts there).

    The “Sarah Palin is a C***” shirts are at least relevant, since they were clearly worn by people engaging in a horribly misguided attempt to support Obama. Focus on that, not this shirt. Heck, by linking to the shirt, you’re probably helping their sales. Neither of us wants this shirt to make this company any money, so why give them publicity?

    TG Chicago (2b8752)

  48. Benson,

    I’ve never seen a report of people at Obama rallies threatening to kill McCain and Palin. If there is one, please let me know.

    TG Chicago (2b8752)

  49. Comment by TG Chicago — 10/16/2008 @ 12:44 pm

    …and, if you had the awareness level approaching a moron, you would know that no one has threatened Obama, or Biden, at McCain or Palin rallies.
    You might want to look at the latest post at this blog where the Secret Service completely debunks this scurrilous charge

    Another Drew (6ac001)

  50. TG and mj get to define what is racism, and who is racist. Shocka to find out that Republicans are racists, and the Dems are not.

    I’ve never seen a report of people at Obama rallies threatening to kill McCain and Palin

    True. The reporters that cover their events to do not make up imaginary quotes and attribute them to unidentified people. Nifty trick, that.

    JD (f7900a)

  51. Comment by Another Drew — 10/16/2008 @ 1:00 pm

    This comment was directed to all those who have jumped on this bandwagon of lies, and not to any particular commenter. The trail of comments, in fact, confuses this reader as to just who is criticizing whom.
    I refer everyone to the latest post on PP where the Secret Service has debunked this scurrilous charge, and a reporter in Scranton PA has a lot to answer for (which of course, he won’t).
    Again, if anyone thinks this comment has been unfairly directed towards them, you have my apology.
    If you have accussed McCain or Palin of inciting crowds, then this was for you, Moron!

    Another Drew (6ac001)

  52. TG, let us know when you find one at a McCain/Palin rally. The secret service sure can’t find ’em…

    Casey (9ee427)

  53. JD read what I wrote more carefully than Another Drew, and I appreciate that.

    While it’s true that there are now doubts about the “kill him” thing, it was a legit newspaper report, and it was part of what got the ball rolling on this idea. There were other parts that have not been questioned.

    This is why the “Angry Right” thing has caught hold. Another reason: you have more reason to be angry. You’re losing. It’s only natural that the losing side would be more angry, regardless of which side it was. There was plenty of anger from Hillary supporters when Obama won the nomination. It happens.

    Instead of finding one ugly anti-Palin t-shirt on the internet, which proves little if anything, why not focus on telling McCain/Palin supporters to stop giving the media more stuff to run with on this meme? Surely that would be a more effective use of your time. The more ammunition the media gets, the more they’re going to use it. That’s simple media physics.

    BTW, I’d like to note that some – by no means all – of the people commenting on this thread have been rather unpleasant in their language towards me and the Left generally. Given that you are attempting to prove how much more civil the Right is than the Left, perhaps this is unwise.

    One example: Anna Lemma at #38 says

    “If anyone recognizes the skank posing in the Tee on the site, how about printing up the pic and mailing it to her mom?

    Mom will be soooo proud, I’m sure………”

    Perhaps not, but somehow I dont think the mother would be pleased to see her daughter described as a “skank” either.

    TG Chicago (2b8752)

  54. it was a legit newspaper report, and it was part of what got the ball rolling on this idea

    If making shit up out of thin air is what qualifies as a legit newspaper report, then you and I are in agreement.

    Instead of finding one ugly anti-Palin t-shirt on the internet

    Or several displayed proudly at Baracky events …

    People tend to react in a less than pleasant way when Leftist drop by and traffic in discredited memes, Baracky talking points, and standard boilerplate Leftist pablum. YMMV

    JD (f7900a)

  55. It is our fault that reporters make up evidence to support their made up meme about Republicans being mean, angry racists? Interesting, that.

    JD (f7900a)

  56. TG Chicago

    Maybe its just me, but the lefty T-shirts seem to be more or the vile immature nature, maybe it’s the base they pander too, maybe that’s how they plan to get immature horny teenage boys to vote for BHO?

    One big thing I noticed that I have not noticed in elections past, Palin’s Daughter (Bristol) is the focus of some of those T shirts.

    I think there is a big difference between a T shirt that calls Obama an “Ass clown” and one that uses his kids to make an attack.

    If I was the only person in American that had access to http://WWW.Whatever, then I would agree those links shouldn’t have been posted, but since Im not, I don’t agree.

    ML (14488c)

  57. TG Chicago: …I dont think the mother would be pleased to see her daughter described as a “skank” either.

    Every individual is in total control of the range of other people’s first impressions of who they are. A good way not to be described as a skank is not to wear clothing depicting coitus. If you freely choose to wear a t-shirt with a sexually explicit cartoon, you’re saying to the world, “I’m a skank,” and have no business demanding anyone look below the surface.

    L.N. Smithee (a0b21b)

  58. Moderators! Cleanup on Post 58!

    L.N. Smithee (a0b21b)

  59. This is why the “Angry Right” thing has caught hold. Another reason: you have more reason to be angry. You’re losing. It’s only natural that the losing side would be more angry, regardless of which side it was.

    Of course. Which is why those on the Left were subject to a large amount of news articles about their “anger” in 2000 and 2004. Right?

    Maydayog (4400c6)

  60. My apologies for being unclear. “Legit” was intended to modify “newspaper”, not “report”.

    TG Chicago (2b8752)

  61. Let me just say that at my place of employment in “liberal Seattle” the 9:1 ratio of jokes about Palin in company e-mail are sexist jokes about her looks, her speech, her gender, and her background.

    There isn’t a single joke about Bambi or Biden. Which is odd, because this group would be ferocious on Palin if she thought “J-O-B-S” was a three-letter word.

    steve miller (5df7f9)

  62. oh. This is same as how you can mock Christianity but not Islam except different cause of the sexism. But Sarah early on remember gave an interview about how you don’t get all victimy about stuff like this and she’s right I think. When she’s Vice President I don’t think this sort of thing will bother anybody so much. Even if, it’s a small price to pay I think for preventing socialism in America. The shirt is bad but socialism would be just awful.

    happyfeet (71f55e)

  63. steve miller,

    9:1 odds doesn’t sound like fun but at least Seattle is pretty. You got that going for you.

    DRJ (8b9d41)

  64. it was a legit newspaper report

    Best oxymoron – evah.

    Dmac (cc81d9)

  65. This is why the “Angry Right” thing has caught hold. Another reason: you have more reason to be angry. You’re losing. It’s only natural that the losing side would be more angry, regardless of which side it was.

    Of course. Which is why those on the Left were subject to a large amount of news articles about their “anger” in 2000 and 2004. Right?

    Right. Especially in 2000. The difference of course is that the anger took place after the election was over, so it was less of a story.

    The easier comparison is with the Hillary Clinton campaign – a slowly sinking ship. With both Gore and Kerry, there was significant hope of a Democratic win up until the votes were tallied (and, in 2000, retallied). And you dont hold rallies after your candidate loses.

    McCain supporters are experiencing the same thing Hillary supporters did earlier this year. It’s becoming more and more likely that their candidate will lose, so more anger is coming out. It would be exactly the same with Obama supporters if he was in that position.

    Either way: anyone who thinks that this sexism is unique to the Left really needs to look at how the Right has treated Hillary Clinton through the years. You can find plenty of vile, immature things said and shown about her over the past 16 years.

    The point is this: I’m saddened that people would wear “Sarah Palin is a C***” shirts to an Obama rally. If I had been there, I would have told them that their behavior is inappropriate and unhelpful. I assume most people here felt about the same way when they saw the youtube video of the guy in Pennsylvania waving around a Curious George doll or some of the other hateful stuff that’s been seen on those videos.

    Let’s agree that we each have nutcases in our own camps and that we each need to do a better job of policing our own. How does that sound?

    TG Chicago (2b8752)

  66. This is false equivalence.

    This is the same as saying Joe killed his wife and Jane stole a paperclip. Let’s agree that they’re both criminals and leave it at that.

    The left is consumed by BDS (and now PDS). The left is consumed by sexist rage against Palin.

    The right (I’m a righty) dislikes Hillary because of her policies. However, we realize she’s a very strong & assertive leader.

    We dislike Bambi not just because of his policies, but because he’s a hair-brained elitist snob who’s skated by in life without criticism. And someone who’s the epitome of the Chicago political system.

    steve miller (5df7f9)

  67. “TG and mj get to define what is racism, and who is racist.”

    I’m just letting you know what the real world is like. I’ll repeat my challenge. Walk down the street and call a white person a monkey and then call a black person a monkey. See what happens. Then you’ll know why those shirts are a problem.

    If you think that’s one of the dumbest things to do ever, then there is a part of you that recognizes it as racist, so you can’t argue that the shirt isn’t racist.

    mj (c39ebb)

  68. mj

    If you are disparaging me using “words” whatever those “words” maybe and I am disparaging you using “words” and your reaction is different then mine, doesn’t prove anything except you have thinner skin then I or vise versa.

    Just because people react a certain way doesn’t somehow make it right, no matter what world you live in.

    It doesn’t make sense to say equating a white person to a chimp is somehow less offensive than equating a black person to a chimp.

    That’s like trying to pick the fly crap out of the pepper.

    ML (14488c)

  69. And you dont hold rallies after your candidate loses.

    No, instead you have your congressional leaders hold mock impeachment proceedings against a sitting President, launch court challenges well after the election has been decided, and continually screech for the next eight years how the current President is illegitimate and has no standing. Now, please tell us when the GOP has ever acted with anything remotely in this manner.

    (crickets chirping)

    Walk down the street and call a white person a monkey and then call a black person a monkey.

    I have a better idea – why don’t we just call you a moral relativist idiot savant, and then gauge your reaction instead?

    Dmac (cc81d9)

  70. dmac – I would leave the savant part off myself. Just sayin’.

    daleyrocks (d9ec17)

  71. Advice to lefties: If you don’t like politicians being depicted as the character “Curious George” then don’t start doing it yourselves.

    http://earthhopenetwork.net/Curious_George.htm

    http://home.nyc.rr.com/jadedem/gw1.html

    Dave Surls (806aee)

  72. The media is indeed turning its back on Obama’s indiscretions and is focusing on anything and everything that can be construed as negative regarding McCain. Obama’s liberal illuminati views fit right in with the mainstream media and it is, unfortunately, a match made in political heaven.

    Jeff (8f2767)

  73. I am so glad someone else saw that slimy, smirk on Obama’s face when John McCain mentioned the t-shirts. Also, the moderator didn’t pick up on his not answering. Decency is dead in America!

    kammi2 (9d3013)


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