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4/21/2007

Any Times Select Subscribers Out There?

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 11:17 am



I apparently have a link from this New York Times blog, but I don’t know what it says, because it’s behind the TimesSelect paywall. Is there anyone willing to admit that they pay money for TimesSelect who can tell me what it says?

UPDATE: Anyone?

UPDATE x2: Oregonian has come through:

April 20, 2007, 10:53 am
For Gonzales, a Post-Panel Pile-On

Has there ever been a worse-reviewed appearance before a Congressional panel than Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s testimony yesterday before the Senate Judiciary Committee? By early afternoon, National Review White House correspondent Byron York had given up hope that Gonzales could salvage his reputation. Calling it “a disastrous morning,” York wrote:

The major problem with his testimony is that Gonzales maintains, in essence, that he doesn’t know why he fired at least some of the eight dismissed U.S. attorneys. When, under questioning by Republican Sen. Sam Brownback, Gonzales listed the reasons for each firing, it was clear that in a number of cases, he had reconstructed the reason for the dismissal after the fact. He didn’t know why he fired them at the time, other than the action was recommended by senior Justice Department staff.

Later, Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham returned to the subject. “Mr. Attorney General, most of this is a stretch,” Graham told Gonzales. “I think most of them [the U.S. attorneys] had personality disagreements with the White House, and you made up reasons to fire them.” Gonzales disagreed but had nothing to support his position. Throughout the morning, Gonzales insisted that he is the man in charge of the Justice Department, and accepted responsibility for the firings, but his testimony suggests he had little idea what was going on.

Most conservatives found themselves in agreement with York. Patrick Frey, a prosecutor in Los Angeles County who blogs at Patterico’s Pontifications, writes, “It’s clear from Gonzales’s answer that, when he approved these firings, he really didn’t know why he was firing each U.S. Attorney. He just did what other people told him to do.” Frey pleads, “Please resign. Put us out of our misery. Please.”

I had a feeling it would be one of the lefties who responded. Thank you to Oregonian.

16 Responses to “Any Times Select Subscribers Out There?”

  1. If you’re willing to admit that you’re too cheap to pay for TimesSelect, I’m willing to give you a freebie. Here it is:

    ———————-

    April 20, 2007, 10:53 am
    For Gonzales, a Post-Panel Pile-On

    Has there ever been a worse-reviewed appearance before a Congressional panel than Attorney General Alberto Gonzales’s testimony yesterday before the Senate Judiciary Committee? By early afternoon, National Review White House correspondent Byron York had given up hope that Gonzales could salvage his reputation. Calling it “a disastrous morning,” York wrote:

    The major problem with his testimony is that Gonzales maintains, in essence, that he doesn’t know why he fired at least some of the eight dismissed U.S. attorneys. When, under questioning by Republican Sen. Sam Brownback, Gonzales listed the reasons for each firing, it was clear that in a number of cases, he had reconstructed the reason for the dismissal after the fact. He didn’t know why he fired them at the time, other than the action was recommended by senior Justice Department staff.

    Later, Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham returned to the subject. “Mr. Attorney General, most of this is a stretch,” Graham told Gonzales. “I think most of them [the U.S. attorneys] had personality disagreements with the White House, and you made up reasons to fire them.” Gonzales disagreed but had nothing to support his position. Throughout the morning, Gonzales insisted that he is the man in charge of the Justice Department, and accepted responsibility for the firings, but his testimony suggests he had little idea what was going on.

    Most conservatives found themselves in agreement with York. Patrick Frey, a prosecutor in Los Angeles County who blogs at Patterico’s Pontifications, writes, “It’s clear from Gonzales’s answer that, when he approved these firings, he really didn’t know why he was firing each U.S. Attorney. He just did what other people told him to do.” Frey pleads, “Please resign. Put us out of our misery. Please.”

    Oregonian (e53be6)

  2. I didn’t really think anybody here would bother to pay for that junk.

    They got the link from Salon, by the way.

    Patterico (5b0b7f)

  3. My wife subscribes to the Sunday NYT fishwrap. But never mind that. When the New York Times agrees with Patterico should the left worry about the New York Times or should we worry about Patterico?

    nk (6415d7)

  4. This is the NYT noting that I am agreeing with Byron York. Are you worried about him too??

    Patterico (5b0b7f)

  5. I would have put a smiley but you have said that you don’t like them. And in any event, is there any doubt that NYT agrees with you?

    nk (6415d7)

  6. Well, there’s a difference in how NYT and York/Patterico arrive at their conclusion, I believe.

    NYT: Get him fired, it will hurt the Republicans/Conservatives/whatever isn’t NYT-progressive.

    Patterico/York: Get rid of him, he IS hurting whatever isn’t NYT-progressive with his incompetence.

    Sometimes, all paths, though they roam, do lead to the same destination.

    Well, all but one:

    W: He’s my guy, I’m keeping him.

    Dan S (b17f51)

  7. Byron York blows with prevailing winds. Not an unremarkable characteristic for a pundit, though in York’s case, he was a somewhat better television producer.

    steve (576c8c)

  8. The people you call “lefties” are merely mainstream “liberals.”
    Move On got its start defending Clinton. Kos isn’t a leftist.

    But this is their competition:

    Everybody on the Republican side now, along with the Democrats, wants to throw Alberto Gonzales overboard. He may be an idiot, I don’t know. He may be a weak attorney general. … It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!

    Of course after 20 years of right wingers calling liberals leftists, liberals believe it themselves. Take it from Max Sawicky.

    and again

    AF (d700ef)

  9. Gonzales is just a symptom. Take some Tylenol for that head cold. It gives some relief, but does not
    quell the viral infection.

    semanticleo (2f60f4)

  10. AF,
    Kos and moveon (that place that likened Bush to Hitler) aren’t leftist?

    Perhaps to you, perhaps to you…

    It’s nice that you admit that conservatives and liberals agree that they both are lefty. Interesting that you do not. Those weirdos that think everything is left or right or mainstream based on their orientation compared with their own opinions are called “narcissists.”

    Anyway, there isn’t a whole lot mainstream about liberals. In fact, moving away from mainstream ideas is part of the definition of modern liberalism. When you have to start calling liberals mainstream, you’re being defensive about their obvious qualities. Things that Kos and moveon want are certainly not wanted by most Americans. Pulling out of Iraq quickly? Super-high taxes? “Moving on” from a president that tried to ruin, via perjury, the life of his politically weak teenage sexual partner in order to get away with a minor liaison (did you think it was the sex that move-in was defending Clinton over)?

    All of that stuff is partisan and out of the mainstream. I’m not calling Kos wrong, but come on, that’s not mainstream.

    Dustin (7bc13a)

  11. All that crap about ‘mainstream’ relegates undue
    integrity to the esteemed ‘middle ground’.

    Lest we forget; it is the middle which brings
    us the luke-warm pablum of acceptable candidates
    for political office, ‘Survivor’ and the fascinating and all-absorbing Anna Nicole diaries on national TV. The lowest common denominator, dominates all else with a dictators’ iron fist.

    semanticleo (2f60f4)

  12. Dan S: I think there are a few honest people on both sides of the partisan divide who are concerned that he is hurting *the country* with his incompetence, not their political allies per se.

    aphrael (9e8ccd)

  13. Look lets get real, people, what did Gonzalez actually do wrong; He fired some US Attorneys upon recommendations from his staff; who are good conservatives; and imput from local officials and the White House. The candidates (Iglesias, Lam,
    Ryan, et al) were not following administration policy on at least one area. When they were picked in 2001-2002, they were chosen for their ability to get through the rump Democratic Senate delivered by Jeffords. The new candidates had a good chance of getting through; (one had been a battlefield JAG in General Petraeus’s Mosul billet!) That’s Karl Rove’s candidate, Tim Griffin. Now of course, there is always Specter,
    Collins, and co; bollixing things up; but they would have objections about Oliver W. Holmes today.So did he give a complete story to the Senate,no, did McNulty mess up in sharing toomuch with Schumer (Is the Pope German?) Yet McNulty isn’t being forced to resign; althoughhe like Comey before him, had a flawed understanding of military detention and tribunal policies; a real handicap in today’s world. Gonzalez was chosen
    because among the candidates, he had the most experience with the key issues the Justice Department would be handling. Had Harriet Myers
    made it to the Supreme Court, she would have had
    the same key perspectives. This undue desire to
    show virtue, by calling for the resignation of
    an official who can’t even have been accused of
    doing anything unethical, much less illegal, showa
    how far our ‘surrender’ instinct has gone. 20 years, this same mob mentality almost drove Ed Meese from office, for some minor indiscretion;
    that the Javert of the time; Seymour, could not
    make stick. In a world exponentially more dangerous; we need not make the same mistake again. By the way, Meese’s son is a Col. on Gen.
    Petraeus’s staff; in another theatre of the wider
    war.

    narciso (3b48ad)

  14. Narciso – Unless there is evidence that anyone was fired for improper purposes, I have no problem with the firings per se.

    However, I expect that a competent administrator, even if acting on recommendations from staff, would undertake to *understand* why he was firing someone before firing them.

    Either Gonzales didn’t do that or he lied to Congress.

    Neither should be tolerated.

    aphrael (9e8ccd)

  15. Ummmm AF, they are called leftists because they are left wing. Their opinions/actions earned the label, not the other way around.

    Hard Right (68b8c3)

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