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3/4/2021

Mother of “QAnon Shaman” Speaks Out

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:50 am



[guest post by Dana]

I was fascinated by this interview clip of the mother of 32-year-old Jake Angeli, the man who breached the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 wearing a horned costume and painted face. It has been reported that he was a regular at Trump rallies and known for supporting Q’Anon conspiracy theories.

I was struck by how easily she rationalized the extremely foolish and illegal decisions made by her son on that fateful day. But it was also unsurprising that she did. I think it’s reasonable to assume that she is a fair representation of the irrationality of Trump’s most devoted followers and StoptheSteal conspiracists. Ultimately though, I was left wondering what this woman was like before Trump .

–Dana

31 Responses to “Mother of “QAnon Shaman” Speaks Out”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (fd537d)

  2. “QAnon Shaman” claims he wasn’t attacking the country in first interview since Capitol riot arrest
    …….
    “No, they were not, ma’am. My actions were not an attack on this country. That is incorrect. That is inaccurate, entirely,” Jacob Chansley said in an excerpt from the interview that aired on “CBS This Morning.”

    Video allegedly showed Chansley on the Senate floor during the insurrection, bare-chested and wearing a fur helmet with horns. He was arrested shortly after and now faces up to 20 years behind bars. A judge will hear arguments Friday on whether he should be released from jail before trial.

    Describing his actions on January 6, Chansley said, “Well, I sang a song. And that’s a part of shamanism. It’s about– creating positive vibrations in a sacred chamber. I also stopped people from stealing and vandalizing that sacred space, the Senate. Okay? I actually stopped somebody from stealing muffins out of the– out of the break room. And I also said a prayer in that sacred chamber. Because it was my intention to bring divinity, and to bring God back into the Senate.”
    ……..
    Chansley said that he believed President Trump “had our back” and expressed disappointment he didn’t receive a pardon from the former president. When asked whether he regretted his loyalty to Trump, Chansley told Segall while he regrets entering the building “with every fiber of my being,” he doesn’t regret his loyalty to the former president.
    …….

    Rip Murdock (d2a2a8)

  3. 1. She’s a mother
    2. She probably knows her son has a mental illness
    3. She’s probably helping her son’s upcoming defense at trial
    4. She’s a mother

    Hoi Polloi (15cfac)

  4. No hay amor come el de la madre.

    nk (1d9030)

  5. *como*

    nk (1d9030)

  6. *como*

    nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2021 @ 10:35 am

    LOL. Funny what one letter can do…

    Hoi Polloi (15cfac)

  7. @3

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  8. I definitely like the QAnon shaman better than his fork-tongued mom. What a piece of work.
    What is “wrong”? What is “peacefully”? Riot? What riot?

    Paul Montagu (77c694)

  9. Chansley … expressed disappointment he didn’t receive a pardon from the former president.

    Which he could easily have done, had he been the selfless Defender of the Nation that these folks thought he was. But he didn’t, as it would have left ONE person available for prosecution.

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  10. What is “wrong”? What is “peacefully”? Riot? What riot?

    ‘It depends on what the meaning of “is” is.’

    Kevin M (ab1c11)

  11. 1. She’s a mother
    2. She probably knows her son has a mental illness
    3. She’s probably helping her son’s upcoming defense at trial
    4. She’s a mother

    While it’s true that she is his mother, I am not convinced that she believes her son has a mental illness, given her own views. Moreover, if she thought he had a mental illness, I think her goal would be to get him help rather than validate his irrational views/beliefs. If she thinks she is helping her son’s defense, she has chosen a poor way to do it. This makes both of them seem mentally unwell.

    Parenting is the hardest job on the world. And for single parents, it’s doubly-hard. While I do not know this woman’s background, or if she is a single mom, the fact remains that her son is a grown man and no longer her little boy. Essentially, her job of parenting is over, and he must stand on his own two feet. That she is defending him and rationalizing his behavior demonstrates to me, why, in great part, he is the way he is.

    Dana (fd537d)

  12. — Bye, Mom! I’m off to DC for the rally.
    — Bison!

    nk (1d9030)

  13. Dana,

    A good son would have made sure Mom doesn’t do that interview. Mom is rationalizing, but she only gets around to mouthing the big lie when the reporter has left her no other place to go, if she want to defend her son.

    Appalled (1a17de)

  14. ‘I was struck by how easily she rationalized the extremely foolish and illegal decisions made by her son on that fateful day.’

    Momma Franklin and Mother Jefferson likey felt th same way…

    Deplorable Neanderthals, all. 😉

    “…lay down your arms, you damned rebels!” – British Officer, Lexington, MA, April 14, 1775

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  15. I kept waiting for her to ask to speak to a manager.

    Time123 (52fb0e)

  16. Those homeless people you read about and might sometimes see? They’re this guy. Who lost their family support.

    This lady is giving her son the only help it is possible to give those people. There is no cure for them. And no facilities to keep them other than jails.

    I don’t begrudge her. I thank her. The mentally ill always make their problems other people’s problems. When she is no longer around to bear the burden, this guy will become entirely a problem for all the rest of us.

    nk (1d9030)

  17. Those homeless people you read about and might sometimes see? They’re this guy. Who lost their family support.

    This lady is giving her son the only help it is possible to give those people. There is no cure for them. And no facilities to keep them other than jails.

    I don’t begrudge her. I thank her. The mentally ill always make their problems other people’s problems. When she is no longer around to bear the burden, this guy will become entirely a problem for all the rest of us.

    nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2021 @ 12:19 pm

    You ended in a very decent place.

    Time123 (daab2f)

  18. #16
    At least Jake isn’t nutty like Adam Lanza, killing his mom before going on a rampage.

    Slightly nutty single moms with crazy sons have to work with the tools they have. Love and protectiveness rule.

    I’m sure the host has heard mothers of shooters completely detach from reality in describing their sons. “He wasn’t a member of a gang” Tattoos on face and head say otherwise, but its her time to fight for her son.

    I’m wondering why no one ever seems to want to interview the mothers of these people:
    https://www.wweek.com/news/2019/08/07/portlands-antifascists-punch-white-supremacists-are-they-also-helping-trump/
    Because they’d tell nearly the exact same story. “My son has always been gentle and kind and this idea he was caught trying to burn a federal building with federal law enforcement inside is rubbish. “

    steveg (43b7a5)

  19. Another type of tragedy where a single mom seems out of touch with her sons attendance and abilities
    https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/city-student-passes-3-classes-in-four-years-ranks-near-top-half-of-class-with-013-gpa

    ripped from Twitchy

    steveg (43b7a5)

  20. — Bye, Mom! I’m off to DC for the rally.
    — Bison!

    nk with the slam dunk! LOL!

    norcal (01e272)

  21. Dana in Kentucky,

    This mother and her son are yet another example of the non-policy harms caused by Trump. The Big Lie eats away at the foundation of our republic.

    norcal (01e272)

  22. OT- Too lazy to read the legislation themselves, Royalist Conservative Senate Republicans request Covid 19 bill be read out loud by clerks.

    Delay. Delay. Delay.

    They’d have read some Dr. Seuss instead, but of course CindyLoo Tedtoo beat them to that ploy some years back.

    Every Americans who contracts and or dies of Covid during this exercise in Royalist stupidity; every struggling business that folds during this utter waste on time is on them.

    Storm the castle.

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  23. nk (1d9030) — 3/4/2021 @ 12:19 pm

    Yup. Agree.

    Hoi Polloi (b28058)

  24. This lady is giving her son the only help it is possible to give those people. There is no cure for them. And no facilities to keep them other than jails.

    While it is liberals of the 60s, 70s and 80s that get the blame for the misguided policies of deinstitutionalization and mainstreaming, those sentiments would not have seen the light of day as policy without the conservatives of that time salivating over the savings from facility closure and RIFs.

    urbanleftbehind (8e4f97)

  25. Why was Congress shut down March 4???

    They were attending Trump’s inauguration, of course:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoSLiHKrzRU

    “Who keeps he Martians under wraps…”

    DCSCA (f4c5e5)

  26. This mother and her son are yet another example of the non-policy harms caused by Trump. The Big Lie eats away at the foundation of our republic.

    Another harm is the widespread belief that one person — who happens to be extraordinarily self-centered and dishonest — is the purest embodiment of patriotism, the only one who can really be trusted to speak the truth and have the good of the people at heart, while anyone who opposes or contradicts or criticizes that person is a traitor or a “rat.” Turning political virtue into a cult of personality is unhealthy, and it’s noxious when the person is so lacking in actual virtue.

    Radegunda (f4d5c0)

  27. this isn’t a Trump thing, this is a relatively common parental response. Her kid is in trouble and she knows he did a wrong thing so she makes excuses that it wasn’t that wrong a thing and his intentions were good and he wasn’t really involved in the bad part. She doesn’t think the election was fraudulent, it’s a last ditch effort to defend her kid. Her response type is AMAZINGLY common. I see it all the time. Sometimes several times a day.

    Nic (896fdf)

  28. Her response type is AMAZINGLY common. I see it all the time. Sometimes several times a day.

    No wonder our schools are such a mess. My retired schoolteacher mother has always said that the core problem with education are the parents.

    norcal (01e272)

  29. I don’t think the mom is trying to bail out her son, per se. I think she is taking advantage of an opportunity to proselytize to an audience because she is a true believer, in and of herself. Who knows who influenced who first with their nuttiness, but I suspect if her son denounced all of the Qanon/StoptheSteal stuff, she’d still be hung-ho.

    Dana (fd537d)

  30. Nic and Dana,

    Perhaps the mother is doing both.

    norcal (01e272)

  31. She’s doing both. Her son got fuzzy genetics from somewhere….. hmmmm…..its a total mystery

    steveg (43b7a5)


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