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4/19/2018

Ted Cruz Sings Trump’s Praises

Filed under: General — Dana @ 9:13 am

[guest post by Dana]

While recent polls show Ted Cruz in a seriously tight race with challenger Rep. Beto O’Rourke for his Senate seat, the Senator is also in the news for having penned a blurb for TIME magazine’s “100 Most Influential People” edition. Surprisingly, the subject was none other than… President Donald Trump:

President Trump is a flash-bang grenade thrown into Washington by the forgotten men and women of America. The fact that his first year as Commander in Chief disoriented and distressed members of the media and political establishment is not a bug but a feature.

The same cultural safe spaces that blinkered coastal elites to candidate Trump’s popularity have rendered them blind to President Trump’s achievements on behalf of ordinary Americans. While pundits obsessed over tweets, he worked with Congress to cut taxes for struggling families. While wealthy celebrities announced that they would flee the country, he fought to bring back jobs and industries to our shores. While talking heads predicted Armageddon, President Trump’s strong stand against North Korea put Kim Jong Un back on his heels.

President Trump is doing what he was elected to do: disrupt the status quo. That scares the heck out of those who have controlled Washington for decades, but for millions of Americans, their confusion is great fun to watch.

In spite of the ugliness that Trump dished out to Cruz and his family during the campaign, Cruz nonetheless ended up endorsing Trump in the election (without Trump having made any public apologies). So at this point in time, nothing Cruz says about Trump should really come as a surprise. Even so, this was for me.

PS: Of course, given that TIME’s “Leaders” list includes the President of the United States, Prince Harry’s fiancee, actress Meghan Markle, a couple of talk show hosts and Sean Hannity sort of speaks volumes…

(Cross-posted at The Jury Talks Back.)

–Dana

366 Responses to “Ted Cruz Sings Trump’s Praises”

  1. Good morning.

    Dana (023079)

  2. President Trump’s achievements on behalf of ordinary Americans

    the snotty social-positioning what we keep seeing

    the prissiness of harvardtrash like bill kristol

    they completely miss this

    President Trump has had a measurable impact on the lives of real people

    but ick the aesthetics

    good for Mr. Cruz; the succinct way he targeted this message, I’m persuaded he genuinely gets it

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  3. Cruz praises Trump: minorities, women, children and anti-Trump Texans hardest hit.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  4. the ugliness that Trump dished out to Cruz and his family during the campaign

    to buy into this you have to elide how Cruz-aligned trashbag Liz Mair was mailing naked pictures of melania to utah housewives

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  5. As I commented at The Jury:

    This is disappointing. I’m sure Cruz has convinced himself he can’t do good/conservative things unless he wins, but every politician thinks that. That’s why, over time, they lose their principles. We’re seeing that happen in real time with Cruz.

    I understand Trump won but that means Cruz should focus on being a Senator, not a potential President. If he can’t do that, then he needs to go back to being a Supreme Court lawyer.

    Any bets who will be happiest if Cruz loses — the left or happyfeet? I say happyfeet by a mile. Or maybe Trump. He never met a weak Republican he couldn’t hate or a strong Democrat he couldn’t love.

    DRJ (15874d)

  6. nonono i want ted to win

    he’s one of the better senators, which isn’t saying a whole lot, but he’s making a positive contribution there

    he hasn’t been very outspoken though so far about the coup the dirty sleazy FBI is trying to pull off

    and that’s not to his credit

    it belies his “principled” image

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  7. Of course he did. Cruz proved he was submissive to Trump with the 2016 endorsement. Now he apparently thinks he needs the Trumpista base to hold his seat.

    So again, just a whiny, craven follower who lacks the courage of his apparent convictions trying to keep his job.

    Gerald (51fdf0)

  8. He understands the battle against the left. It’s why I supported Cruz for President and support him now.

    No ivory tower in his world.

    NJRob (aa4ea5)

  9. When Ted Cruz told it like it is (May 3, 2016):

    This morning, Donald Trump went on national television and attacked my father.

    Donald Trump alleges that my dad was involved in assassinating JFK. Now, let’s be clear. This is nuts. This is not a reasonable position. This is just kooky. And while I’m at it, I guess I should go ahead and admit, yes, my dad killed JFK, he is secretly Elvis, and Jimmy Hoffa is buried in his backyard.

    You know, Donald’s source for this is “The National Enquirer.” “The National Enquirer” is tabloid trash. But it’s run by his good friend David Pecker, the CEO, who has endorsed Donald Trump. And so “The National Enquirer” has become his hit piece that he uses to smear anybody and everybody.

    And this is not the first time Donald Trump has used David Pecker’s “National Enquirer” to go after my family. It was also “The National Enquirer” that went after my wife, Heidi, that just spread lies, blatant lies.

    But I guess Donald was dismayed, because it was a couple of weeks ago “The Enquirer” wrote this idiotic story about JFK. And Donald was dismayed that the folks in the media weren’t repeating this latest idiocy, so he figured he would have to do it himself. He would have to go on national television and accuse my dad of that.

    Listen, my father is has been my hero my whole life. My dad was imprisoned and tortured in Cuba. And when he came to America, he had nothing. He had $100 in his underwear. He washed dishes making 50 cents an hour. You know, he is exactly the kind of person Donald Trump looks down on.

    I’m going to do something I haven’t done for the entire campaign. For those of you all who have traveled with me all across the country, I’m going to tell you what I really think of Donald Trump.

    This man is a pathological liar. He doesn’t know the difference between truth and lies. He lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth. And in a pattern that I think is straight out of a psychology textbook, his response is to accuse everybody else of lying.

    He accuses everybody on that debate stage of lying. And it’s simply a mindless yell. Whatever he does, he accuses everyone else of doing. The man cannot tell the truth, but he combines it with being a narcissist, a narcissist at a level I don’t think this country’s ever seen.

    Donald Trump is such a narcissist that Barack Obama looks at him and goes, dude, what’s your problem? Everything in Donald’s world is about Donald. And he combines being a pathological liar — and I say pathological because I actually think Donald, if you hooked him up to a lie detector test, he could say one thing in the morning, one thing at noon, and one thing in the evening, all contradictory, and he would pass the lie detector test each time.

    Whatever lie he’s telling, at that minute, he believes it. But the man is utterly amoral.

    Let me finish this, please.

    The man is utterly amoral. Morality does not exist for him. It’s why he went after Heidi directly and smeared my wife, attacked her. Apparently, she’s not pretty enough for Donald Trump. I may be biased, but I think, if he’s making that allegation, he is also legally blind.

    But Donald is a bully. You know, we just visited with fifth-graders. Every one of us knew bullies in elementary school. Bullies don’t come from strength. Bullies come from weakness. Bullies come from a deep, yawning cavern of insecurity. There’s a reason Donald builds giant buildings and puts his name on them everywhere he goes.

    And I will say there are millions of people in this country who are angry. They’re angry at Washington. They’re angry at politicians who have lied to them. I understand that anger. I share that anger. And Donald is cynically exploiting that anger. And he is lying to his supporters.

    Donald will betray his supporters on every issue. If you care about immigration, Donald is laughing at you. And he’s telling the moneyed elites he doesn’t believe what he’s saying, he’s not going to build a wall. That’s what he told “The New York Times.”

    He will betray you on every issue across the board. And his strategy of being a bully in particular is directed as women. Donald has a real problem with women. People who are insecure, people who are insecure about who they are — Donald is terrified by strong women.

    He lashes out at them. Remember, this is the same Donald Trump who last week here in Indiana proudly touted the endorsement from Mike Tyson, a convicted rapist who served three years in prison here in Indiana for raping a 17-year-old girl. And in Donald’s world, he said Mike Tyson was a tough guy.

    I don’t think rapists are tough guys. I spent a lot of years in law enforcement dealing with rapists. Rapists are weak. They’re cowards and they’re bullies. And anyone that thinks they’re a tough guy, that reveals everything about Donald Trump’s character.

    Donald Trump said Bill Clinton was targeted by unattractive women. You know what? I have been blessed to be surrounded by strong women my entire life.

    Today’s voting day here in Indiana. The president of the United States has a bully pulpit unlike anybody else. The president of the United States affects our culture. I ask the people of Indiana, think about the next five years if this man were to become president.

    Think about the next five years, the boasting, the pathological lying, the picking up “The National Enquirer” and accusing people of killing JFK, the bullying. Think about your kids coming back and emulating this.

    For people in Indiana who long for a day when we were nice to each other, when we treated people with respect, when we didn’t engage in sleaze and lies — and I would note one of the lies he engages in, listen, Donald Trump is a serial philanderer, and he boasts about it. This is not a secret. He’s proud of being a serial philanderer.

    I want everyone to think about your teenage kids. The president of the United States talks about how great it is to commit adultery, and how proud he is, describes his battles with venereal disease as his own personal Vietnam. That’s a quote, by the way, on the Howard Stern show.

    Do you want to spend the next five years with your kids bragging about infidelity? Now, what does he do? He does the same projection. Just like a pathological liar, he accuses everyone of lying. Even though he boasts about his infidelity, he plants in David Pecker’s “National Enquirer” a lie about me and my family, attacking my family. He accuses others of doing what he is doing. I will tell you, as the father of two young girls, the idea of our daughters coming home and repeating any word that man says horrifies me.

    That is not who America is. And I would say to the Hoosier State, the entire country’s depending on you. The entire country is looking to you right now. It is only Indiana that can pull us back. It is only the good sense and good judgment of Indiana that can pull us back. We are staring at the abyss.

    He was right.

    Every. Freaking. Word.

    And they didn’t listen.

    Dave (445e97)

  10. This morning, Senator Sam McCann (C-Plainview) announced that he and Veterans’ Rights Activist Aaron Merreighn (pronounced “marine”) (C-Riverton) would join the Illinois Gubernatorial race as Conservative Party candidates. They will face Democratic nominee J.B. Pritzker and incumbent Republican Governor Bruce Rauner.

    billionaire bruce rauner made his own bed

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  11. ted cruz was whining and carrying on about a tweet of his sacky wife while Mr. Donald Trump was talking about jobs

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  12. 9… Cruz has shown he’s a better man than Trump. Was that ever in doubt for most of us?

    I don’t think it was. But that was then, this is now. NJ Rob said it best.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  13. To bad everyone can’t be as mature as Cruz. He knows how to move forward.

    Others complain.

    BuDuh (fc15db)

  14. Some of us understand what’s at stake. Some – at best – willingly don’t. That is giving them the benefit of the doubt.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  15. willingly willfully

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  16. I’d still rather have Cruz in the Senate than anybody else who is there now. I hope enough Texans are smart enough to realize that too.

    nk (dbc370)

  17. 2016 election map.

    Seems like some of your support is an inch deep. Senator Cruz needs constituents with some grit in their craw. Battle tested true stalwarts. With some character behind their support.

    He’s looking in the right place.

    Isn’t that the same outfit from a month ago saying Cruz would have trouble winning the primary?

    You can stick that poll . My prediction is Cruz by 18 over the wannabe Mexican.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  18. Re 10, they may be philosophically 180 degrees from Zephyr Teachout, but those 2 are depending on the Springfield rank and file as much as Teachout depended on the Albany equivalent.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  19. His problem in the Quinnipiac poll was not among Republicans – he had slightly higher support among Republicans than his opponent had among Democrats.

    He was getting murdered among Independents though, thanks to Trump, so sucking up to the Prince of Darkness may not be the best strategy.

    Dave (445e97)

  20. Michael Cohen drops his defamation suit against Buzzfeed and Fusion GPS

    Nice to see that TrumpWorld’s annointed martyr has the courage of his convictions.

    So to speak.

    CNN also reporting that the Justice Department has submitted a criminal referral on Andrew McCabe…

    Dave (445e97)

  21. Papertiger

    This polling company also had that female state senator leading gov abbott

    Didnt turn out..

    EPWJ (8f35c3)

  22. Actually, no, it doesn’t, EPWJ:

    In the Texas governor’s race, Republican incumbent Gov. Greg Abbott tops former Dallas County Sheriff Lupe Valdez 49 – 40 percent and leads entrepreneur Andrew White 48 – 41 percent.

    Voters approve 54 – 33 percent of the job Gov. Abbott is doing and give him a 51 – 33 percent favorability. His challengers are largely unknown as 65 percent don’t know enough about Valdez to form an opinion of her and 72 percent don’t know enough about White.

    “Gov. Greg Abbott has a modest lead over each of the two people vying for the Democratic nomination. But what is significant is that governors with 54 percent job approval ratings rarely lose,” Brown said.

    DRJ (15874d)

  23. Or are you talking about Wendy Davis? Not one poll ever had Davis leading Abbott.

    DRJ (15874d)

  24. You’ll value the burnt amber of falling leaves
    And you’ll long to delay
    You feel their breath as they whisper
    It won’t hurt you now to betray
    If you just bow down

    And now every time that we meet
    On the edge of hysteria
    You’re helping them sell off
    Some new party line
    I remember a time when you
    Would have seemed so superior
    Now you say “will you please
    Meet this good friend of mine”
    So you’re in demand as long
    As you kiss their hand
    But all the applause
    Is for their name not yours

    You Bowed Down-Roger McGuinn (Elvis Costello)

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  25. In spite of the ugliness that Trump dished out to Cruz and his family during the campaign, Cruz nonetheless ended up endorsing Trump in the election (without Trump having made any public apologies). So at this point in time, nothing Cruz says about Trump should really come as a surprise. Even so, this was for me.

    With apologies to Tom Lehrer:

    Gather round while I sing you of Canadian Cruz,
    A man whose allegiance is ruled by expedience;
    Call him unprincipled for changing his views,
    “Principles, schminzables,” coos Canadian Cruz

    Don’t say that he’s hypocritical,
    Say rather that he’s quite political;
    “Once the endorsement is up, by next week it’s old news!
    Memories are short,” coos Canadian Cruz

    Some have harsh words for his bait-and-switch-ruse,
    But some say their attitude should be one of gratitude;
    Like the wife and the father; their honor abused,
    So easily betrayed by Canadian Cruz

    You become a conservative hero;
    Showing Texans you’ll stand up for zero;
    “In Calgary ‘oder’ Houston I have proved I can lose,
    And I’ll prove it again,” coos Canadian Cruz

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  26. @9. “And I would say to the Hoosier State…”

    Basketball ring.

    Slam-dunked loser.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  27. @9. He was right. Every. Freaking. Word.

    Actually, Trump was right.

    Every. Freaking. Word:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssYJuKQenHU

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  28. “And this is not the first time Donald Trump has used David Pecker’s “National Enquirer” to go after my family.” Ted Cruz

    Pecker. Trump’s other “fixer”.

    noel (b4d580)

  29. Trump’s fixers don’t have near the resources of the Democrats’ fixer, a.k.a. Mueller. Seems unfair.

    random viking (97af11)

  30. Thank you Colonel.

    NJRob (aa4ea5)

  31. Gee, Cruz sounds like some kind of, how do I put this in words… an adult? He lost. He supports the guy who won. Amazing.

    random viking (97af11)

  32. Good for Cruz for not taking it personally. Yes, Trump said some despicable things about Cruz’s family during the election. Trump has also been an excellent President from a conservative POV. Cruz is right to let bygones be bygones and instead focus on enacting Trump’s conservative agenda.

    David in Cal (2b55d5)

  33. No ivory tower in his world.

    Just green eggs and ham– aka Canadian bacon.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  34. Drj

    I’m sorry, I wasn’t clear

    Didn’t 4 years ago what’s her name had great poll numbers only to flame out

    EPWJ (94362d)

  35. I still support Cruz but haiku is right. Is Texan Trump critics do not enjoy reality when it comes to Cruz evolving into a more typical politician.

    Sure, it’s just basic common sense maturity to not fight after the election is decided. But there’s something deeper about the nature of trump bashing Cruz’s family. Trump and those who love how he slimes family are trash.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  36. Sorry about my typos.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  37. I find no fault with Ted’s blurb. I’ve been rather disappointed by his holding back on several occasions which were ripe for his conservative leadership. Yet, these words in Time are truthful. They also have the benefit of backhanding the GOPe.

    Here’s hoping he doesn’t go too purple trying to appease an ever more lavender voting populace in Alamo-land.

    Ed from SFV (4f3559)

  38. What do you call a woman with no arms and no legs smoking in an electric wheelchair?

    I don’t know but next time I’m at Krogers I’ll ask her.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  39. An appropriately punished HRC?

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  40. In spite of the ugliness that Trump dished out to Cruz and his family during the campaign, Cruz nonetheless ended up endorsing Trump in the election

    cruz isn’t a snowflake like his prissy-butt fan club

    that’s why his speech at #9 was so ineffective

    it’s a contrived and phony attempt to create and exploit a perception that he and his sacky were pathetic, damaged twitter-victims what deserved a pity vote cause of someone did mean tweets on them

    I bet if he has one regret about his campaign it’s the days he spent trying to get some mileage out of this angle

    lil babby roob roob did the same thing

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  41. “Your wife is ugly and yo daddy killed President Kennedy.” “Why, thank you, Mr. President. You are just the finest “flash-bang grenade” ever invented.”

    There is an alt-right word for this. I am trying to remember what it is….??

    noel (b4d580)

  42. be ted joshua chamberlain cruz

    be finding myself on trump’s furthest right flank

    be lonely and a little scared

    but muh principles

    we must hold this position or the republic is lost

    stow principles, fix bayonets

    here comes the traitors, confederates, turncoats and saboteurs

    we must hold the line till the last man

    be supreme court justice ted joshua chamberlain cruz walking to chambers with a slight limp

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  43. Trump’s not very presidential, I will Grant you that.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  44. nice work Mr. puller

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  45. Remember when that anti-Trumper won an Olympic medal?

    http://www.nbcolympics.com/video/canadian-hockey-player-not-happy-silver

    random viking (6a54c2)

  46. So you’ll suck up to a “bully” and “pathological liar” who viciously attacked your family, and for whom “morality does not exist”, just to save your political career.

    What else will you do to save your political career, Ted?

    I feel like having a tear-soaked, Alex Jones moment right now. “Is there nobody f*cking pure in this g*dd*mned f*cking world?”

    Dave (445e97)

  47. a vicious attack lol

    it was a handful of tweets

    failmericans are so simpering anymore

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  48. wait that’s not the word i wanted

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  49. i think precious is what i wanted

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  50. failmericans are so precious anymore

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  51. yup that does the trick

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  52. All this fake polling seems to be wreaking havoc with FredoPublicans.

    Does even one (R) have a pair of nutzzzzz?

    Shep's Social Circle (d5668e)

  53. Surveys on Capitol Hill (Example: Washingtonian 2014) often rank Ted Cruz #1 in many categories. Like: show horse, most partisan, clueless, and biggest disappointment. But, as usual, it’s a badge of honor for many of you.

    To me, he is just…. creepy.

    noel (b4d580)

  54. I’m guessing noel was a Jim Gilmore guy.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  55. me and President Trump have good nutzzzzz cause we have new york values

    we’re not hurt and devastated and sad :( when people do a twitter on us

    especially President Trump – he’s a very centered person who knows his own mind!

    you can do mean twitters on him and he’s very unruffled and he won’t cry and whine

    to be fair Ted Cruz is also very tough too but he tried crying and whining to get attention when he was losing cause he was desperate (or maybe he got a bad advise)

    this was after he said as to how carly pupperoni was his running mate, which was also a very desperate thing to do

    the boy was desperate

    he cracked

    made some questionable decisions

    that doesn’t make him a bad person

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  56. Is problem was Mrs. Cruz did not remind Mr. Trump of his daughter, is what problem was.

    nk (dbc370)

  57. I’m guessing noel was a Jim Gilmore guy.

    random viking (6a54c2) — 4/19/2018 @ 2:23 pm

    Nawwww… McMuffin…

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  58. Cruz evolving into a more typical politician.

    Cruz lead voters to believe he was anything but a typical politician. He consistently stood upon his principles, he didn’t cave to establishment R’s, etc. He stood out and that’s why Conservatives saw him as a pol who unwaveringly represented their interests. That he has evolved into a “typical” politician is disappointing.

    Trump’s attack on Heidi Cruz and her appearance was viciously personal and particularly low. I suppose Trump going that low spoke to just how big of a threat he believed Cruz to be.

    Dana (023079)

  59. hey texas twister, what have you done

    hey texas twister, who’s the trumpian

    hey texas twister, who’s your president

    hey texas twister, where’s the guy we sent

    hey texas twister, rotgut

    he’s a great guy to vote against

    it’s a great for a bloodletting

    he’s a great guy to vote against

    hey texas twister, who you voting with

    hey texas twister, lose your voice a bit

    hey texas twister, rotgut oh yeah

    hey texas twister, who’s your president

    hey texas twister, rotgut

    he’s a great guy to vote against

    it’s a great day for a bloodletting

    he’s a great guy to vote against

    pack it up

    take it back home, yeah

    hey texas twister, what did you do

    hey texas twister, what’d you go through

    you’ve been away for so long

    you’ve been away for so long

    we let you go for so long

    nothing’s free in this world

    no seat’s safe in this world

    no election is sure in this world

    no politician is pure in this world

    looking for one good one in this world

    start again

    it’s a great day for a bloodletting

    h/t Dave

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  60. Is going to be November 2018. And lame duck Republican House will have voted Articles of Impeachment for Mr. President. And Mr. President will be tweeting Mr. Ted: “Please not vote to convict. Mrs. Cruz is very pretty. She remind me of my daughter. Only prettier.”

    nk (dbc370)

  61. “I feel like having a tear-soaked, Alex Jones moment right now.”

    Just go easy on teh throw pillow, ConDave.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  62. You gonna find out mister
    When you meet that Texas Twister

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  63. “There is an alt-right word for this. I am trying to remember what it is….??”

    Prolly going all “noel”…

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  64. “One of the central problems of liberalism is that its operating dogmas sooner or later collide with each other. Take the way antitrust operated for decades: if you charged the same price as your competitors, you were guilty of collusion and price-fixing. But if you charged less than your competitors, you were guilty of predatory pricing. (Indeed this is exactly how antitrust investigations began decades ago before we came to our senses.) Or take bank lending: if a bank doesn’t lend to the urban poor and minorities, it is guilty of “red-lining.” But if a bank does lend to poor and minority customers who default at high rates (as happened in 2008), then you’re guilty of predatory lending.

    And don’t even get me started on Starbucks. They deserve every bit of pain they have invited by their proud virtue signaling of the last few years. Anyone remember Starbucks’s “talk about race campaign” from a few years ago? If they start serving popcorn, I might wander by.

    The great thing about being a liberal is the permanent state of cognitive dissonance it allows. Instead of pondering these kind of contradictions and perhaps, in good Marxist fashion, reaching some kind of new synthesis, liberals just dust themselves off and move on as though nothing has happened.”

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/04/civil-war-on-the-left-part-55-democrat-dilemmas.php

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  65. Ted Cruz will lose if his opponent plays that speech (#9 above) during the two weeks preceding the election. Provided it’s a quality production and a big enough ad buy.

    But they probably know that already.

    noel (b4d580)

  66. Show some compassion and visit Andrew McCabe’s #GoFundMyPrisonBarSoap site.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  67. noel is still paying rent on the pods container sitting in his driveway filled with Gilmore4Prez t-shirts. It would make anyone bitter.

    random viking (6a54c2)


  68. You gonna find out mister
    When you meet that Texas Twister

    Colonel Haiku (46f395) — 4/19/2018 @ 2:41 pm

    h/t 2 Little Feat

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  69. noel should start a #GoFundMyGilmorePods

    random viking (6a54c2)

  70. Let me just say that if you are a billionaire and the best you can do for an attorney is Michael Cohen, you must have gotten your money through pure luck… or theft.

    noel (b4d580)

  71. Trump’s attack on Heidi Cruz and her appearance was viciously personal and particularly low.

    actually it was very impersonal and light-hearted he just retweeted this meme and said “A picture is worth a thousand words” and there were two pictures

    one of them was an unflattering pic of Heidi (obviously unflattering) and the other pic was a picture of President Trump’s beautiful wife Melania Trump

    and everyone had a good laugh cause it was so funny how grimacey Heidi looked and how pretty Melania looked

    and Heidi was all like lol that’s not a very good picture of me Donald – shame on you!

    and Donald was like I know we picked a bad one on purpose!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  72. Cohen is also Mark Cuban’s attorney? What?

    random viking (6a54c2)

  73. what

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  74. here’s an article from awhile ago about how Cuban and Cohen are besties

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  75. But, in fairness, I have seen other billionaires and thought the same thing. Sometimes maybe all you need…. is greed.

    noel (b4d580)

  76. A gift for Mr. Feet:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v75wCTMZoSY

    “I went down to the summer camp, and took a can of gasoline…”

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  77. that was cute Mr. DCSCA thank you for the link

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  78. 75… nobody needs that much money, do they Republican noel?

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  79. The (eighth or) nineteenth anniversary is bronze. That doesn’t seem worth walking out over. A different website is saying chili pepper, that’s just weird.

    Seventh is copper but that one blew right by. I don’t see brass or lead. IDK. Kids these days.

    One more thing to thank the Germans for.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  80. Right you are, PandP… https://youtu.be/mxWQvkctTdY

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  81. Orange is the color of not getting shot in woods and fields and marshes. That’s cultural appropriation.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  82. No, they don’t “need” that much money. But we do want to be a free, capitalist society to the greatest extent possible. A billionaire has no excuse for hiring an idiot lawyer though. Wouldn’t you agree?

    noel (b4d580)

  83. @81 Colonel Haiku

    They actually got MTV play back in the day which is where I discovered them.

    In any version, Zappa was instrumental in getting George and his new band a contract with Warner Bros. Records.

    I see what you did there, wiki guy.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  84. 45, this is the original queen of not happy with silver. Now she’s just another victim of a Cosby Show Rotherham.

    urbanleftbehind (0ea5ff)

  85. No, they don’t “need” that much money. But we do want to be a free, capitalist society to the greatest extent possible. A billionaire has no excuse for hiring an idiot lawyer though. Wouldn’t you agree?

    noel (b4d580) — 4/19/2018 @ 3:43 pm

    A free, capitalist society tolerates crummy tradesman as far as anyone is willing to hire them.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  86. noel should start a #GoFundMyGilmorePods”

    Hope it works out better than the Andrew McCabe defense gofundme, he hooked the Resistance for more than a half milly.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/pjmedia.com/trending/help-can-get-money-back-mccabes-gofundme-campaign/amp/

    harkin (379712)

  87. More accurate version of Ted’s first sentence:

    President Trump is a flaming dumpster of manure left in our front yards by the gullible men and women of America.

    Dave (445e97)

  88. Could you sneak my around back? I should hate for Pa Pa to see me like this.

    A. Lady Sybil Crawley

    B. Stormy Daniels

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  89. I think Dave is still paying off his George Pataki pods.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  90. 84… I saw Feat 9 or 10 times after they got back together in ‘88, and they were good, but never as good as when I saw them several times over ‘74 to ‘77 timeframe with Lowell, PandP.

    They were truly a “musician’s band” in ‘74-‘75, tight as could be.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  91. there was a feat guy at protein he used to go spend a week every year on an island with the small feat people, him and his wife i think

    i wanna say his name was ccofer but that doesn’t seem quite right

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  92. This guitarist was pretty good back then I thought… https://youtu.be/slnTV4TqXbo

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  93. Feat yearly getaway to Jamaica…

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  94. The guitar tones in TT sounded a little Steely Danny, not to be confused with Goldy Sacky.

    Pinandpuller (16b0b5)

  95. The guitar tone I always liked was what Mick Taylor used on teh Stones “Sister Morphine”… a very metallic kind of sound.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  96. Um, what is Cruz saying that is untrue?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  97. hello Dana here is an history for you i got learned today

    it’s called the Brea Plunge!

    this lady’s done an interesting video for so you can learn too

    yes yes i miss california sometimes

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  98. I read your post again, Dana, and I still don’t get it. Every last word Cruz uttered was true. Sure, there are other things he could have said that would also be true, but what is the point of gratuitously attacking a politician of your own party? The 11th Commandment applies.

    Does the fact that Cruz isn’t carrying a grudge make you think less of him? Does his clear acceptance of the election results make him a bad person (and, therefore, is refusing to transfer power to Trump, as the Democrats are attempting, a virtue?)?

    Would I prefer a President Cruz, you betcha. Or a half dozen others. Pretty sure Cruz would, too. But he’s not going to join the opposition just to get even for a slight.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  99. Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.) said Thursday that she will support President Trump’s nomination of CIA Director Mike Pompeo as secretary of State, virtually guaranteeing he will win confirmation.

    Heitkamp, who faces a difficult reelection race this fall in a state Trump won by double-digits, becomes the first Senate Democrat to announce her support for Pompeo.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/383990-heitkamp-to-support-pompeo-for-secretary-of-state

    It appears that Heitkamp(D) thinks the independents(I) are swayed by her being on the Trump(R) Train.

    How can Trump(R) be a negative for Cruz(R)?

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  100. Um, what is Cruz saying that is untrue?

    Attributing leadership to Trump when he doesn’t even have a clue what’s in the bills he signs is pretty disingenuous, but it’s really what Cruz isn’t saying (that he said clearly back in May 2016) that outs him as an unprincipled hypocrite.

    Dave (445e97)

  101. Dave, you know, you can donate all those Pataki4Prez shirts to the Philippines.

    That’s where all the Atlanta Falcons Super Bowl Champs 2017 shirts ended up. Huge write off.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  102. How can Trump(R) be a negative for Cruz(R)?

    Texas Independents:

    O’Rourke: 51%
    Cruz: 37%

    Approve Trump: 28%
    Disapprove Trump: 64%

    Supporting Trump is Factor in Senate Vote: 13%
    Opposing Trump is Factor in Senate Vote: 32%
    Trump Not Important Factor: 51%

    Dave (445e97)

  103. I suspect Allahpundit is right though, and Cruz will end up winning fairly comfortably.

    Rourke’s approval/disapproval in that poll was 40/13, with 47% saying they don’t know enough about him to express an opinion. So he is an unknown to almost half the voters.

    Cruz still has six months to educate people about O’Rourke’s very liberal positions, and as he does, the numbers will move accordingly.

    Dave (445e97)

  104. Texas Independents are showing they have schiff for brains is trending…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  105. Dave… having intercourse with poultry day after day truly makes you a dull boy.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  106. it’s really what Cruz isn’t saying (that he said clearly back in May 2016) that outs him as an unprincipled hypocrite.

    No, it outs him as a member of a political party. That he disagrees with you does not mean he has no principles. I disagree with you a lot. I just have other principles. Such as sticking with a political party that TENDS to favor things I want. Sometimes it favors them more than other times. If I pick and choose when I will support it, then I’m the hypocrite. The Summertime Soldier.

    Patterico washes his hands of the Republicans for picking Trump. Been there, done that (with Dole). Didn’t work. To me, THIS is the time to be MORE involved, not less. When the time comes for correction, the Bill Kristols of the world are not going to have a seat at the table.

    Cruz knows this.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  107. That’s where all the Atlanta Falcons Super Bowl Champs 2017 shirts ended up

    Probably my Dodger World Series Champs cap, too.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  108. LOL. Trustworthy poll.

    Yes. Are Independents really the bigger bloc in Texas? Registered voters only 31% Republican? 10% were registered but didn’t know which party? Boy, I bet THEY are likely voters.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  109. narciso keeps leaving comments in moderation. At the end of each one, I say:

    [Please just acknowledge your error so I can let you comment again. — P]

    I really wanted him to simply do that immediately so I could reinstate him immediately, but he is totally oblivious. So I think I will just give him a one-month vacation, starting whenever I moderated him, and let that serve as the punishment for the false accusation he made. He doesn’t seem willfully obstinate, just supremely oblivious. One month is enough.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  110. Patterico washes his hands of the Republicans for picking Trump. Been there, done that (with Dole). Didn’t work. To me, THIS is the time to be MORE involved, not less. When the time comes for correction, the Bill Kristols of the world are not going to have a seat at the table.

    Cruz knows this.

    I was pissed about Dole (and McCain, and…) but come on. Trump is another level.

    Ultimately, I don’t care about a seat at the table. I say what I think and that’s the end of it. These days that makes a lot of people cry. That’s their issue, not mine. I’m the same guy I always was. Maybe a little more disdainful of partisanship than before, but I believe in all the same things.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  111. I think I am losing some readers and gaining others, and while the former is surely a greater number than the latter, the quality of the ones I am gaining is far higher. I’m good with the tradeoff.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  112. I didn’t ban that douchenozzle Hi who said my blog sucks and I’m Charles Johnson, by the way.

    Probably should have but didn’t.

    Charles Johnson would have.

    Patterico (115b1f)

  113. Kevin M,

    Cruz can certainly say Trump is a lying immoral bully during the campaign, and then a year later applaud Trump’s accomplishments as if he thinks Trump is swell. Maybe he believes everything he said about Trump, but it doesn’t make Cruz seem realistic to me. It makes Cruz seem manipulative and devious because he will change how he presents his opinions depending on his political needs — something he can ill afford to highlight if he wants to be thought of as principled and trustworthy.

    That may only matter to some Texans, but I think there are Texans who notice and care. We’ll see how many next November — maybe not enough to make Cruz lose the election, but I suspect his home state Presidential financing has taken a hit.

    DRJ (15874d)

  114. Are you going to withhold your vote for Cruz, DRJ?

    I remember how upset you said you were when you realized Trump had deceived you 25% of the way through his term. You seem more upset at Cruz.

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  115. I do not plan to vote again unless I see someone I think is worth voting for. I won’t vote for Cruz or Trump.

    DRJ (15874d)

  116. But I am not more upset at Cruz. He is weak but Trump is an immoral fool.

    DRJ (15874d)

  117. Correction: A lying immoral fool.

    DRJ (15874d)

  118. But I am not more upset at Cruz. He is weak but Trump is an immoral fool.

    But you knew that about Trump.

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  119. No, I knew he was immoral but I did not know he was an habitual liar or a fool incapable of keeping his promise to act more Presidential. I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but now I know better.

    DRJ (15874d)

  120. Trump has no redeeming qualities unless throwing bones to his base is a redeeming quality. Cruz has tons of redeeming qualities.

    nk (dbc370)

  121. Cruz has many redeeming qualities but a weak man can’t be depended on when it matters.

    DRJ (15874d)

  122. What date was the promise made and what date was it broken?

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  123. The Promise: I’m gonna be so Presidential …
    Broken: Every day.

    DRJ (15874d)

  124. The Proof.

    DRJ (15874d)

  125. What date was the promise made and what date was it broken?

    From the start of the primaries through almost all the debates. “I can change. I can change! I can change!” A constant mantra.

    I only watched snippets of his debates with Hillary. Critical mass of loathsome. So I can’t say he chanted it there.

    nk (dbc370)

  126. Thank you DRJ, for being you.

    Tillman (a95660)

  127. He broke it everyday including before the primary?

    I don’t understand why you voted for him. Seems a bit careless.

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  128. I should have said “since the primaries.”

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  129. I explained it already. I gave Trump the benefit of the doubt that he would change his behavior from campaign mode to being Presidential as he promised to do, but he did not.

    DRJ (15874d)

  130. Careless is an unusual word to pick. Why did you?

    DRJ (15874d)

  131. Before I thought you gave him the benefit of the doubt to have the wall done in one year in that 25/75 concerned comment.

    I guess now it is you felt betrayed by someone you knew was immoral.

    I could see where that would leave a mark.

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  132. Judge not lest ye be judged.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  133. Careless is an unusual word to pick. Why did you?

    Your other comments led me to believe that you are a careful person when it comes to decision making.

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  134. I’ll leave here something posted on my music forum

    I think it would be hard for a con-man and swindler to act presidential for any sustained time period. I suppose that it’s to Trump’s credit that he hasn’t tried to act presidential; it’s not in him.

    Kishnevi (8d3389)

  135. Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. — Matthew 7:1-2

    And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. — Matthew 7:3-5

    Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven: — Luke 6:37

    Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man. — John 8:15

    Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. — James 4:11

    There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another? — James 4:12

    Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. — 1 Corinthians 4:5

    Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. — Romans 2:1

    But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way. — Romans 14:10-13

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  136. I do not judge what will happen to Trump’s soul, or Cruz’s. That is what the Bible is talking about, Haiku.

    BuDuh, I knew that Trump was immoral. It disappoints me and I pray he will lead a more Christian life, but I am not responsible for his poor lifestyle choices just because I voted for him. But now I also know he lies and will continue lying when it benefits him. I won’t help him do that.

    DRJ (15874d)

  137. I am surprised you just figured it out.

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  138. Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. — James 4:11

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  139. If you are saying you identified and understood Trump’s flaws, did you vote for him anyway?

    DRJ (15874d)

  140. I identified and understood his positive attributes. Then I voted for him.

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  141. OK. What did you identify as his positive attributes?

    DRJ (15874d)

  142. He punches back.

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  143. Goodnight, DRJ. I’ll pick back up on this tomorrow.

    BuDuh (06f70e)

  144. Nunes, Gowdy, Goodlatte take the starch out of Comey.

    These memos also lay bare the notion that former Director Comey is not motivated by animus. He was willing to work for someone he deemed morally unsuited for office, capable of lying, requiring of personal loyalty, worthy of impeachment, and sharing the traits of a mob boss. Former Director Comey was willing to overlook all of the aforementioned characteristics in order to keep his job. In his eyes, the real crime was his own firing.

    https://intelligence.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=879

    h/t The Conservative Treehouse

    Anon Y. Mous (6cc438)

  145. Newly released memos from former FBI director James Comey indicate that an early 2017 briefing for Trump on the contents of an unverified dossier were part of a setup to enable media to report on the the most salacious details of the dossier.

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/20/comeys-memos-indicate-dossier-briefing-of-trump-was-a-setup/#.Wtltps8yEI8.twitter

    A stand-up guy all around.

    harkin (379712)

  146. Newly released memos from former FBI director James Comey indicate that an early 2017 briefing for Trump on the contents of an unverified dossier were part of a setup to enable media to report on the the most salacious details of the dossier.

    That’s not what they say or indicate.

    Dave (445e97)

  147. I was pissed about Dole (and McCain, and…) but come on. Trump is another level.

    Trump believes more things I agree with than Dole did. Probably McCain, too. Won’t hear about campaign finance reform out of Trump.

    Is he another level, or just a dial turned up to 11? Looking at it another way, he is able to get people to listen to what he says, which is an asset usually. If I have any real problem with Trump is that he’s incompetent as a politician and a boor. Own goals, unforced errors, opportunities missed with abandon. I would do a better job, and that SCARES me.

    But he’s not Vlad the Impaler or whatever scare story some would make him out to be. I’d trade him for nearly anyone in Sacramento.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  148. Newly released memos show only what Comey wrote down. He might have been on acid. That he wrote this stuff down does not make it Truth.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  149. We have here a man who has repeatedly said “Putin might have something on Trump”, which is just about as irresponsible a comment anyone could make. That the Democrats want it to be true does not make it so. He has other fever dreams. He wrote some of them down. Meh. He has no credibility with me.

    But I guess if your Hate-O-Meter is pegged in the Blue zone, it will seem like papal revelation. Whatever.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  150. It makes Cruz seem manipulative and devious because he will change how he presents his opinions depending on his political needs

    Again, DRJ, he has different principles. In a two-party system, putting party before self is NOT unprincipled. It’s a realistic appraisal of the political state of affairs and what you call “manipulative and devious” he would call “rational” and “smart.”

    Unlike you or me, he IS a politician, and therefore political needs mean more to him. I’m an engineer, so to me numbers and physics are more important than to the average person, and if I were to ignore them — for any reason — I would be unprincipled. FOr Cruz to ignore political reality would be an equal affront to his trade.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  151. I do not plan to vote again unless I see someone I think is worth voting for. I won’t vote for Cruz or Trump.

    And this I will call unprincipled. You pretend that this isn’t a two-party system. You pretend there is no basis for choice. But you know there is. You know that it is STILL better that Trump was chosen over Hillary.

    How you can deny the truth, stick your head in the sand, and call it principle is beyond me.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  152. Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. — James 4:11

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0) — 4/19/2018 @ 9:25 pm

    You know that James is one of the most appealed apostles right?

    Pinandpuller (a0c022)

  153. You know that it is STILL better that Trump was chosen over Hillary.

    With a GOP congress, it’s far from clear to me that electing a toxic, immoral and ineffective Republican president is necessarily better than electing a toxic, immoral and ineffective Democrat president.

    Obama accomplished nothing in his last six years; Hillary – unlikeable, in poor health, scandal-plagued, and with no ideas – would have accomplished even less. And the Democrats would have had the 35% approval albatross around their necks instead of the GOP.

    Politics has a time horizon longer than four years.

    The Democrats thought electing Jimmy Carter in 1976 was great; but he was weak and ineffective, accomplished nothing, and it bought them 12 consequential years of Reagan and Bush.

    Dave (445e97)

  154. This posting warms my heart. Why? Because the man Patterico LOVES (“I love this man.“) was man enough to see the good in Trump and eventually climb aboard the train despite his earlier sworn enemy status. Gravy that Pat can’t bring himself to write posts like this like a sulking child, and pawns them off to contributors. Dessert with whip cream topping that he then can’t help himself from commenting in the comment section despite handing down the edict eons ago that FROM NOW ON, he will not be commenting on any more posts with Trump in the title.

    Rage! rage! against the dying of the light.

    Sadly, sweet, sweet, schadenfreude is the only reason to come here anymore. Thankfully, it’s a labor of love.

    School Marm (b10d2d)

  155. Good news, guys. California wants to ban the Bible:

    It’s interesting, for example, that Chait makes the argument just as the California State Assembly is set to vote on a bill that would actually — among other things — ban the sale of books expressing orthodox Christian beliefs about sexual morality.

    Yes, ban the sale of books.

    Assembly Bill 2943 would make it an “unlawful business practice” to engage in “a transaction intended to result or that results in the sale or lease of goods or services to any consumer” that advertise, offer to engage in, or do engage in “sexual orientation change efforts with an individual.”

    The bill then defines “sexual orientations change efforts” as “any practices that seek to change an individual’s sexual orientation. This includes efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions, or to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attractions or feelings toward individuals of the same sex.” (Emphasis added.)

    This is extraordinarily radical. Christian orthodoxy is simple — regardless of a person’s desires (their “orientation”), the standard of right conduct is crystal clear. Sex is reserved for marriage between a man and a woman. When it comes to “gender expression,” there is no difference between “sex” and “gender,” and the Christian response to gender dysphoria is compassion and treatment, not indulgence and surgical mutilation.

    Put another way, there is a fundamental difference between temptation and sin. California law would intrude directly on this teaching by prohibiting even the argument that regardless of sexual desire, a person’s sexual behavior should conform to Biblical standards.

    NRO

    Let’s go over to the newsroom for Dave’s reaction. Dave, how are all these annoying Christians overreacting once again?

    Pinandpuller (a0c022)

  156. Wow, that’s everyone’s favorite nevertrumper, David French. A distinct lack of hyperbole and uncharacteristic under-reaction. Steer into the skid, David.

    Pinandpuller (a0c022)

  157. Let’s go over to the newsroom for Dave’s reaction. Dave, how are all these annoying Christians overreacting once again?

    Your description of the bill is a lie.

    The (amendment to the) bill prohibits:

    (28) Advertising, offering to engage in, or engaging in sexual orientation change efforts with an individual.

    The full definition of sexual orientation change efforts is:

    (i) (1) “Sexual orientation change efforts” means any practices that seek to change an individual’s sexual orientation. This includes efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions, or to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attractions or feelings toward individuals of the same sex.

    Nothing about banning books. Nothing about the Bible. If the bill passes, it will be unlawful to advertise or provide a service that purports to change a person’s sexual orientation.

    Dave (445e97)

  158. …advertise or *sell* a service…

    Dave (445e97)

  159. OT- Tip of the cap to the teams at NASA, in industry and in academia, who are still with us and who’ve passed, who managed to overcome the challenges and problems in lunar orbit and finally get Apollo 16’s LM Orion, with the late John Young and Charles Duke aboard, safely down to the surface of the moon and begin exploring the Descartes region of Luna. 46 years ago today, April 21, 1972.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP6Gho3_2JA

    “That other America. They did things differently there.” – Dan Rather, CBS News, July, 1989

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  160. Ha Dave! That’s David French’s description of the bill. I said California wants to ban the Bible which I rate as mostly true.

    So Dave, how’s the weather looking this weekend? Is it still illegal to fire up the old backyard grill?

    I was thinking about you guys tonight. I saw two Serve Pro vans pull into the truck stop, which was a little unusual. They had temp tags and the placards said “Encino, Studio City and Valley Village. Most likely they were built in Indiana or North Carolina and a nice retired couple was driving them out there. It won’t be long till they get broke in good at a murder scene, don’t you think? You think they do mobile homeless washing?

    Pinandpuller (a0c022)

  161. And that’s the way it was…

    Pinandpuller (a0c022)

  162. OT and a couple days late:

    The anniversary of the Doolittle Raid on Japan was Wednesday, when the Japanese PM was at Mar-a-Lago watching Trump cheat at golf. Mar-a-Lago is across the state from Florida’s Eglin Auxiliary Field, where Doolittle’s men practiced B-25 take-offs from a runway with a painted box the size of an aircraft carrier’s flight deck.

    The Hornet carried the 16 B-25’s, with the carrier Enterprise providing air support. Surprise was essential because loss of either carrier would have been catastrophic. The raiders had to take off 200 miles farther from Japan than planned when the task force was spotted by a small Japanese vessel, giving them even less fuel to reach airfields in China after dropping their bombs.

    A couple days late, but worth remembering the ballsy aviators who were brave enough to volunteer for a virtual suicide mission that raised morale in the dark months after Pearl Harbor, and may have goaded the Japanese into launching their next offensives prematurely. In the next six weeks, the US won victories at Coral Sea and Midway that turned the tide of the war against Japan for good.

    Out of the 80 men who took off and bombed Japan on April 18, 3 were KIA and 4 more died in Japanese captivity (one was starved to death, three others were executed).

    One survivor of the raid, Doolittle’s co-pilot Col. Richard E. Cole, is still alive (age 102). /salute

    Dave (445e97)

  163. Not to be alarmed, just heard from Harris county republican officials

    Cruz has no ground organization, is relying on ads

    Hmmm

    Dewhurst did the same thing

    EPWJ (94362d)

  164. Revenge is served from nitrogen cooled sources…they gotta getting that order from “national”. And this, especially in Texas would just fulfill nk’s theory of why he lost the nomination i.e. he’s one of the those multiple sclerosis 13ers

    urbanleftbehind (0ea5ff)

  165. “ I’d trade him for nearly anyone in Sacramento.”

    Ain’t it the truth.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)


  166. Nothing about banning books. Nothing about the Bible. If the bill passes, it will be unlawful to advertise or provide a service that purports to change a person’s sexual orientation.
    Dave (445e97) — 4/20/2018 @ 2:07 am


    So then Pinandpuller is correct in that:”Put another way, there is a fundamental difference between temptation and sin. California law would intrude directly on this teaching by prohibiting even the argument that regardless of sexual desire, a person’s sexual behavior should conform to Biblical standards.

    IOW, the law doesn’t “ban” the Bible, just the reading and meaning of it being preached by Christians. Or as I call it: Communism. Your boys never sleep Comrade Dave.

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  167. Unprincipled politicians are only thinking about the next election, especially whether they will win. Principled politicians think about the next election and its impact on the future.

    DRJ (15874d)

  168. Again, DRJ, he has different principles. In a two-party system, putting party before self is NOT unprincipled.

    How is Cruz putting Party before self when he’s clearly doing this to make it more likely he will win his election?

    DRJ (15874d)

  169. Cruz uses apps now to facilitate his outreach on the ground, EPWJ. He doesn’t use traditional, old-fashioned outreach because this works better than rumors in the digital/social media age. Even Trump used it in the general election. He used the same company Cruz used — Cambridge Analytica — as well as a San Antonio-based web design company that worked for the Trump companies.

    DRJ (15874d)

  170. Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
    doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
    doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
    doo doo doo doo doo doo
    Ted Cruz is just alright with me
    Ted Cruz is just alright, oh yeah
    Ted Cruz is just alright with me
    Ted Cruz is just alright
    I don’t care what she may say
    i don’t care what she may do
    i don’t care what she may say
    Ted Cruz is just alright, oh yeah
    Ted Cruz is just alright

    Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
    doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
    doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo
    doo doo doo doo doo doo
    Ted Cruz is just alright with me
    Ted Cruz is just alright, oh yeah
    Ted Cruz is just alright with me
    Ted Cruz is just alright
    I don’t care what she may know
    i don’t care where she may go
    i don’t care where she may go
    Ted Cruz is just alright, oh yeah!

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  171. 152.”Newly released memos show only what Comey wrote down. He might have been on acid.”

    So pure.

    harkin (379712)

  172. Comey has proven to be an enema of teh people.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  173. Quite! The eternal deep state double standard. This crap has to stop. We’re becoming a banana republic wherein if you’re a leftist you get a pass but if not they will investigate until they come up with a crime come hell or high water.

    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-7jPRptVO-OU/WtnXYKrh1gI/AAAAAAADLjQ/Ht5hmQslyQcqPXlsn7OgohLhhk14tUorACLcBGAs/s400/theo5.jpg

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  174. Kevin,

    Texans are split on Trump, and Cruz wants to be re-elected so he needs to appeal to both groups. Cruz is trying to win as many of the votes from both groups as he can. Cruz’s non-specific, emotion-laden statement is trying to be all things to all people, and that also strikes me as unprincipled. It’s something Trump does, too, and I don’t like it in him.

    Cruz told us where he stood on Trump during the campaign. If Cruz wanted to be a Republican first, that was when he should have held his tongue. He should not insult us now by acting like Trump has changed, because he clearly hasn’t. The only one who changed is Cruz.

    DRJ (15874d)

  175. DRJ: Principled politicians think about the next election and its impact on the future.

    Principled politicians naval gaze about a “crap electorate” as they write their concession speech.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  176. Yes, that can happen. We all draw our own moral red lines.

    Would you do anything to win, random viking? Is there anything you wouldn’t do to win?

    DRJ (15874d)

  177. Is there anything Trump could do that would make you desert him?

    If there is, then you have a moral line you won’t cross. It doesn’t matter that it is different than mine, we both have them. If there isn’t anything he could do that would make you say “Enough,” please think about what that means.

    DRJ (15874d)

  178. I would do anything and everything that Trump did to win the election. If he did something wrong, then name it.

    Don’t embark on the “immoral” nonsense again. Politicians we revere and enshrine owned slaves, as just one of hundreds of examples. If you want to renounce them as immoral and unworthy, go ahead.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  179. If Trump owned slaves, I would desert him.

    random viking (6a54c2)

  180. Random Viking, #180 and #183 cannot be emphasized further when one realizes that flags would be flying at full mast this week had George H W Bush not gone all in under Lee Atwater.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  181. Sincere question for DRJ – Lincoln did some very odious and pragmatic things in service of maintaining the Union, and then to win the war. He was absolutely NOT pure in regards to slavery, for example.

    Would you have not voted for his re-election?

    It’s a tough question for myself. I believe I would have supported Lincoln since the war was not fully decided and his all-consuming passion to win the war, which was indeed THE issue of the times, is as good a reason to swallow righteous principle as I can imagine.

    And before any of you yahoos out there accuse me of equating Cruz’ blurb with Lincoln’s dilemmas, just don’t. OK? I am doing no such thing.

    Ed from SFV (4f3559)

  182. I don’t know what the problem is here.

    I never thought Ted Cruz was intellectually honest.

    Remember his claiming he needed to filibuster because that was the last chance to prevent Obamacare from becoming permanent?

    And here two of the three points (about cutting taxes, and maybe, successfully dealing with Kim Jong Un (but isn’t Ted Cruz jumping the gun?) are close to legitimate.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  183. I am not judging other commenters or their morality. We each have our own moral code, although I would be concerned if someone said there is nothing they wouldn’t do to win.

    My point is that we all have something that tells us, “I can’t support that.” I could vote for Trump when Patterico could not, and others can vote for Trump when I can’t. That is a disagreement, and that’s all it is to me.

    DRJ (15874d)

  184. I don’t know how I would have voted in the 1860’s or any other time. I have enough problems with knowing how to vote now. In hindsight, I can tell you what I might do but life isn’t lived in hindsight.

    DRJ (15874d)

  185. In lieu of time travel back to the days of Lincoln, I’m curious to read the takes of commenters who’ve read teh “Comey Memos”… all 15 pages.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  186. 159. Pinandpuller (a0c022) — 4/20/2018 @ 1:44 am

    “sexual orientations change efforts” as “any practices that seek to change an individual’s sexual orientation. This includes efforts to change behaviors or gender expressions, or to eliminate or reduce sexual or romantic attractions or feelings toward individuals of the same sex.” (Emphasis added.)

    Does taht include efforts to prevent people from conntinuing to be pedophiles?

    Or is that somehow not to be considered a sexual orientation? It’s bad, so it is not a sexual oprientation. So the problem doesn’t exist. Shades of Mahmoud Ahmad.

    California would not jut outlaw fraud, and a lot of that could be fraud, but any possibility of anyone coming up with something that works.

    By the way if this is fraud, isn’t much of drug addition treatnment fraud too?

    This is extraordinarily radical. Christian orthodoxy is simple — regardless of a person’s desires (their “orientation”), the standard of right conduct is crystal clear. Sex is reserved for marriage between a man and a woman. When it comes to “gender expression,” there is no difference between “sex” and “gender,” and the Christian response to gender dysphoria is compassion and treatment, not indulgence and surgical mutilation.

    Put another way, there is a fundamental difference between temptation and sin. California law would intrude directly on this teaching by prohibiting even the argument that regardless of sexual desire, a person’s sexual behavior should conform to Biblical standards.

    NRO

    Let’s go over to the newsroom for Dave’s reaction. Dave, how are all these annoying Christians overreacting once again?

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  187. I will add that I think Trump will do anything in life, marriage, business and politics that he thinks might benefit him. I hoped he could control himself, but now I think his only limits are when he thinks he, his brand, or his family might get hurt.

    That concerns me, but I could be wrong and it could be it won’t matter. History suggests other Presidents have been that way, too.

    DRJ (15874d)

  188. 98. Kevin M (752a26) — 4/19/2018 @ 5:04 pm

    98.Um, what is Cruz saying that is untrue?

    Probably Dana is bothered not so much by the few things Ted Cruz selected out but by the overall praise.

    Even that is also not quite true but Dana wasn’t thinking of that. Closest to truth is “:working with Congress to cut taxes for struggling families” Is that what the tax cut was? The idea was to cut taxes to help the economy grow. Struggling families? Maybe afew. The standadrd deduction and cild tax credt were increased.

    ” While wealthy celebrities announced that they would flee the country, he fought to bring back jobs and industries to our shores”

    With tariffs? Or is it the repatriation of money held abroad?

    “While talking heads predicted Armageddon, President Trump’s strong stand against North Korea put Kim Jong Un back on his heels.”

    Ted Cruz isn’t waiting to see if this actually happens.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  189. It’s really amazing how condescending and snotty you virtuous people can be. You flaunt your supposed virtue of not voting for Trump but Trump is the only person who ran in the general election that could defeat Hillary. So what you actually did was surrender your Civic Duty as an American to vote for the better person running for President. And you think that is a virtue? It’s your Failure as an American citizen. You think it’s a virtue to not vote or to throw away your vote on a person who can’t win? It’s a smack in the face to all the previous Americans who fought and died so you could have and retain the right to vote. So don’t sit there and pat yourselves on the back for being virtuous people because people like you could have let Hillary win. That means in my opinion you demonstrate less virtue than a Hillary voter. At least they did what they believed to be right while you surrendered to your own pomposity. At least they cared while you did not. You didn’t even care enough to vote against her.

    Then you run around calling people who voted for Trump all kinds of names and make all kinds of snide remarks and innuendos. I guess calling us names is the only way you can reinforce your phony virtue among yourselves. You still can’t even admit that the best man running actually won the election. Or would you rather have Hillary or even Sanders? You sit around talking and acting virtuous while the rest of us do the heavy lifting and get called names for it. Just like the people who ran to Canada when I went to Vietnam. After the war they come back and get amnesty and strut around like they have virtue. They have no virtue they’re f*****g cowards.

    Trump could turn out to be a great President or a lousy President, I have no crystal ball. I do know what Hillary would have been because she’s a filthy leftist and grifter. I voted accordingly and you guys weaseled out. So whether one carries a “Hell no, I won’t go” sign or wears a pink pussy hat they are all cowards and don’t deserve to breathe American air.

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  190. This is extraordinarily radical….California law would intrude directly on this teaching by prohibiting even the argument that regardless of sexual desire, a person’s sexual behavior should conform to Biblical standards.

    Actually this is not talkinmg about behavior, but attempts to change temptation.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  191. IOW, the law doesn’t “ban” the Bible, just the reading and meaning of it being preached by Christians. Or as I call it: Communism. Your boys never sleep Comrade Dave.

    No, Hoagie. The law bars the commercial advertising or sale of a service that purports to change someone’s sexual orientation. Because there is abundant evidence that:

    1) it is not possible to change someone’s sexual orientation, and
    2) trying to do so is harmful to the person in question

    In other words, selling a product that doesn’t do what it is advertised to do, and is harmful to the person using it.

    The Bible is not marketed or sold as a sexual-orientation changing product or service, ergo, it would not fall under the law.

    Religious counseling or sermons, which are not advertised or offered for sale as commercial activity, would also not fall under the law.

    If a church (or anyone else) said “pay us $100 and we’ll make your gay child straight”, that would fall under the law and be illegal.

    If a church (or anyone else) said “pay us $100 and we’ll resurrect your dead grandmother,” that too would be fradulent and illegal.

    There is no evidence that a person’s sexual orientation can be changed, anymore than there is evidence that dead people can be resurrected on demand.

    Do you think that bearing false witness is wrong, Hoagie? If so, why do you do it so often?

    Dave (445e97)

  192. It’s April 2018, and so many Trump voters are still desperately seeking validation for their decision. Look to your chosen candidate for validation, not to those who opposed him. If you find your validation in Trump’s presidency, more power to you – you will no longer need to seek that validation elsewhere. If you don’t find your validation in Trump’s presidency, you won’t find it in his opponents or detractors – so stop seeking it from them so vociferously.

    If you weren’t so insecure about your decision, you wouldn’t be so desperate to have it validated in the first place.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  193. I mean, seriously: how many of the comments on this thread alone boil down to “I did the right thing, right?! Please tell me I did the right thing…”

    Leviticus (efada1)

  194. …notable is former EPA Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations Kevin Chmielewski’s role in the project. Chmielewski, likely the source of leaks behind negative news stories regarding Scott Pruitt’s spending and alleged ethical lapses was part of the approval process for the soundproof booth.
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/20/pruitt-soundproofphone-booth/

    The order and “speed delivery” request [bumping up the cost by thousands] for the [soundproof] booth came from Chmielewski. The civil service EPA lifer, had been rat[dingo]ing Pruitt from beginning, middle and end, of this “spending scandal” at the EPA.

    All Scott Pruitt had asked for was an unbugged line from his office.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  195. Dave is a stickler for facts. This is why he believes factually that Trump obstructed justice, and is one of the last remaining hold outs who believes in the fact of Trump Russia collusion.

    He also still pays for the Pods in his driveway filled with Pataki4Prez gear because it’s a fact that George can still be president once Trump is impeached.

    random viking (7769d7)

  196. My favorite part …. former EPA Deputy Chief of Staff for Operations Kevin Chmielewski’

    As in not anymore.

    Kevin’s sitting in the park with Comey, playing checkers.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  197. If you weren’t so insecure about your decision, you wouldn’t be so desperate to have it validated in the first place.

    Leviticus is very secure in his position, and wants everyone to know that. And, he backs it up with another comment right after, because he’s not sure.

    random viking (7769d7)

  198. the fact of Trump Russia collusion.

    Trump’s son, son-in-law and campaign manager have publicly confessed (after being caught) to colluding with the Russians. That is no longer open to debate.

    Dave (445e97)

  199. Collusion [kəˈlo͞oZHən] noun
    taking a meeting with strangers who claim to have dirt on Hillary.

    It’s in the dictionary. {the unabridged version}

    papertiger (c8116c)

  200. Trump’s son, son-in-law and campaign manager have publicly confessed (after being caught) to colluding with the Russians. That is no longer open to debate.

    Dave (445e97) — 4/20/2018 @ 9:40 am

    “collusion”… not agreeing to what Dave continues to cling to, but is there a law against this?

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  201. Unless the stupid California bill is expressly limited to commercial activity, it will be subject to First Amendment strict scrutiny and it will not pass, go or collect $100.00. It will be knocked down so hard, it will go all way through to China.

    nk (dbc370)

  202. If anyone answers “yes”, Alan Dershowitz differs with you in no uncertain terms…

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  203. Dershowitz would eat Dave’s lunch, if it were kosher.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  204. … and be counted among the many here who have, as well.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  205. Unless the stupid California bill is expressly limited to commercial activity, it will be subject to First Amendment strict scrutiny and it will not pass, go or collect $100.00.

    Which is exactly what it is limited to:

    1770. (a) The following unfair methods of competition and unfair or deceptive acts or practices undertaken by any person in a transaction intended to result or that results in the sale or lease of goods or services to any consumer are unlawful:
    […]
    (28) Advertising, offering to engage in, or engaging in sexual orientation change efforts with an individual.

    Dave (445e97)

  206. Yes, California is known for always adhering to the law and its “subjects” never have reason to fear that they will be subjected to open, read loose, interpretations of the law.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  207. Ride teh Painted Pony, ConDave…

    “NOT THE ONION: Democratic Party files suit alleging Russia, the Trump campaign, and WikiLeaks conspired to disrupt the 2016 election. Someone must think this is good for fundraising.”

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  208. We’ll see. Sticking a vague law in a broader consumer protection statute does not cure First Amendment vagueness. If there’s even a hint that it applies to my upcoming book, “How To Not Be A Homo”, it will be struck down.

    nk (dbc370)

  209. Or the sequel, “Bored With Broads? Give Gay A Go”.

    nk (dbc370)

  210. Lol… that would be a bestseller, nk.

    Keep in mind that nothing we now know about the dossier had been reported at the time. It wasn’t yet reported that it was used by the FBI to provide a substantial basis to wiretap at least one Trump affiliate despite the fact it was unverified. It wasn’t yet reported that the product was bought and paid for as a Hillary Clinton campaign operation, or that it was secretly funded by the DNC using a law firm as a pass-through to hide its provenance in federal campaign filings. It wasn’t yet reported that its author’s working relationship with the FBI was terminated because he had lied to the agency about how he wouldn’t talk to the media.

    “After nearly a year of wrangling, the seven memos written by Comey were finally handed over on Thursday to Congress, which oversees the operation and funding of the FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ). The memos purport to show Comey’s version of his interactions with the president before Comey was fired last May. According to Daniel Richman, the original recipient of Comey’s leaks who now claims to be his personal attorney, Comey gave him four memos. Four of the seven memos are classified, meaning that at least one of the memos he leaked was classified. By his own account, Comey orchestrated these leaks to the media in order to launch an aggressive special counsel to avenge his firing by Trump in May 2017. The memos given to Congress on Thursday were quickly leaked to the media.”

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/04/20/comeys-memos-indicate-dossier-briefing-of-trump-was-a-setup/

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  211. Cruz told us where he stood on Trump during the campaign. If Cruz wanted to be a Republican first, that was when he should have held his tongue.

    How many times did he attack Trump after the Convention?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  212. @175/177. =Haiku!= Gesundheit!

    Desperately Seeking Loosin’

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  213. ” While wealthy celebrities announced that they would flee the country, he fought to bring back jobs and industries to our shores”

    With tariffs? Or is it the repatriation of money held abroad?

    Allowing the repatriation of money at reasonable tax rates is fueling the stock market, which is a leading economic indicator. I expect 5% growth over the next several years, maybe more.

    The tariffs are quite a different thing, aimed at various purposes. There are the cynical steel tariffs, aimed at keeping a few Senate seats. There are the tariffs targeted at China, aimed at getting them to change BEHAVIOR, which is an entirely different thing. Note also that China has no good way to respond — slapping tariffs on commodities is useless. Something they have recently discovered, and are now attempting to change untargeted behavior, hoping to avoid the major change (not stealing patents).

    Kevin M (752a26)

  214. @179. The only one who changed is Cruz.

    He didn’t change, DRJ, he simply revealed who and what he really is.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  215. Colonel Haiku (46f395) — 4/20/2018 @ 10:15 am

    Even CNN agrees with that: their talking heads were calling it a publicity stunt and wondering how long before the lawsuit was thrown out.

    kishnevi (bb03e6)

  216. If tariffs are so bad why has China been enjoying double digit growth for 30 years?

    papertiger (c8116c)

  217. You think it’s a virtue to not vote or to throw away your vote on a person who can’t win?

    It’s not virtue, but it is a reasonable tactic to avoid casting a vote for someone you despise, even if you despise them a bit less than the other choice.

    Why? Because at times NONE OF THE ABOVE is a valid message. The 19% who voted for Perot in 1992 were not “throwing away their vote”, they were saying that deficits were unacceptable. And shortly thereafter the budget was (briefly) balanced and a number of reforms occurred (welfare and farm subsidies to name two).

    It’s really not hard to see why “NONE OF THE ABOVE” was an attractive choice in 2016. TERRIBLE candidates on both sides. On a scale of 1 to 10, the better of them was, MAYBE, a “3”.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  218. I wasn’t going to vote for either of the last Senatorial candidates — Kirk or Whatshername. They were on the same page on abortion.

    nk (dbc370)

  219. 1) it is not possible to change someone’s sexual orientation

    This is possibly the stupidest thing Dave has ever written.

    There are countless psychiatric patients whose sense of sexual orientation is, at best, confused. Their sexual behavior is influenced by things unrelated to any organic preference, and without therapy they might continue in a pathology that could be treated. This cuts both ways, btw.

    This law would likely prevent psychiatrists from offering their services to, or continuing to treat, such patients.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  220. I wasn’t going to vote for either of the last Senatorial candidates — Kirk or Whatshername. They were on the same page on abortion.

    But you still have to vote for *someone* so that there’s a clear vote to count. Staying home tells them nothing.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  221. It’s fascinating to reach partisan republicans these days. They have this need to inject guesses (as though they are facts) endlessly, and a need to ignore facts as ‘fake.’ It’s a very insecure way to be, and I question why anyone remains a republican. The only reason I can think of is that for many years, being conservative meant hating democrats, and over time it’s become clear that that act of partisanship was more harmful to conservatism than the actual democrats were.

    The same people who try to muddy the waters about how anti conservative the GOP is are the ones who are the most guilty for our nation not finding the solutions to its problems. They want to deflect to partisanship, to how terrible democrats are, as though that’s relevant at all. No kidding the liberal party isn’t conservative. So what? The ‘conservative’ party conned us into liberalism. That’s where the problem is. Don’t want huge horrible deficit spending? Well vote for Trump and he’ll make the deficit skyrocket anyway.

    If you ask your taxi driver to take a right, but he takes a left, it’s not the left fork’s fault. It’s the driver’s fault. It’s not the liberal party that needs fixing.

    Furthermore, the need of folks like this viking troll to tell us Trump has never done anything immoral in a political campaign, or that those who are suspicious of Trump’s actions with respect to Russia are clueless, is blatant shilling propaganda.

    The democrats won their lawsuit against the republicans in Watergate, and then the democrats did many of those same sins over again. All the way up to Lois Lerner, we saw ruthless democrats violating our rights. But Trump’s campaign benefited greatly from russian exposure of dirt about Hillary. Many republicans cheer this, and I actually get that idea, but it’s not that unlike Watergate and the lawsuit offers some interesting problems for the GOP today.

    You have been the party of Gerald Ford for too long. The party with no conscience. Ted Cruz seemed like a different sort of man, but he is another Gerald Ford. Maybe I’ll vote for him, but maybe I’ll just get a hot dog and walk my dog instead. Maybe the GOP should lose every election until this nation fixes what’s really wrong, which isn’t that democrats do what they say tell voters they will do (spend us into collapse).

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  222. There were other races on the ballot. I left some of those blank as well. I wrote-in for President.

    nk (dbc370)

  223. @223. The 19% who voted for Perot in 1992 were not “throwing away their vote”, they were saying that deficits were unacceptable.

    Recall, too, at that time the economy was tanking as the Reaganomics balloon was bursting on Bush’s watch.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  224. Recall, too, at that time the economy was tanking as the Reaganomics balloon was bursting on Bush’s watch.

    No, the economy was already well into recovery by the 1992 election. It has posted 6 consecutive quarters of GDP growth. The economy did go through a very mild recession in 1991, one of the mildest on records. But to say it was tanking at the time of the 1992 election is badly mistaken.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  225. Maybe the GOP should lose every election until this nation fixes what’s really wrong, which isn’t that democrats do what they say tell voters they will do (spend us into collapse).

    =yawn=

    Reagan Policies Gave Green Light to Red … the world’s largest international creditor to the largest debtor nation…

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A26402-2004Jun8.html

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  226. *had posted

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  227. Anne Heche is the celebrity spokesman for a new drug to treat lesbian depression called “trycoxagain“.

    papertiger (c8116c)

  228. 231… shorter ASPCA: Democrats – including the Big Zer0 – have no responsibility for the debt/deficit l… even though they are responsible for EVERY “entitlement” (exception Medicare prescription GWB EFF-up) that has nearly bankrupted the U.S.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  229. A lot of folks joining the Nihilist Party these daze… go ahead, walk your hot dog and eat your dog…

    Wait…wut?

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  230. OT- As TV reports were airing over banter between Trump and Putin about the quality of Russian hookers, CSPAN 2 was airing some amazing television; regardless of how you felt about the Bush family politics, it speak volumes that ol’Poppy Bush was there in his wheelchair greeting the public first hand for a while as they paying respects filing past the late Bab’s in repose.

    At his advanced age and given his health condition, he didn’t have to do that– and nobody would have found fault if he hadn’t. But he did.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  231. papertiger’s comment citing the name of Leviticus’s daughter as part of an effort to criticize Leviticus has earned him a lifetime ban.

    Patterico (b1f26f)

  232. I have deleted it.

    That is a sure way to get a one-way ticket to Bansville, population you.

    Patterico (b1f26f)

  233. i thought it was weird how neither George or Jeb were there when she died

    what were they so busy doing that they couldn’t fly to texas or wherever

    they’re just very different people i think

    maybe there’s a story but on the face of it I don’t get it

    especially W he doesn’t live all that far he coulda just hopped in the cabriolet and driven down

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  234. @195 Sammy

    Suppose one parent doesn’t go along with their child’s gender reassignment drugs or surgery?

    Pinandpuller (02f812)

  235. California stops all kinds of fruits at the border.

    Pinandpuller (02f812)

  236. @219 &235 DCSCA

    Ted Cruz was the only republican Susan Rice didn’t unmask.

    It’s the first hand you have to watch out for.

    Pinandpuller (02f812)

  237. Thank you, Patrick. I did not realize until today that some people here mean it when they say they will do anything to win.

    DRJ (15874d)

  238. especially W he doesn’t live all that far he coulda just hopped in the cabriolet and driven down

    happyfeet (28a91b) — 4/20/2018 @ 12:46 pm

    Maybe, I dunno crazy thought here, maybe this isn’t really your business. Maybe they had talked about this already and Barbara wanted her last hours to be with her husband and no one else. I know I wouldn’t want my final hours to be surrounded by a lot of folks.

    but you do you, ya know. you just go ahead and bash a guy because his mother died, but really you’re bashing him because he’s not on your side of some political thing ten years ago.

    Gotta love this impact Trump’s having on our nation. Trump and Clinton (the president) both sure screwed up our moral fabric. Obama and W were of high character. They were “good people” or whatever it is y’all get mad about. They didn’t bash anyone’s kids or parents or sleep around. I think they both made a lot of decisions I wouldn’t have, but at least they were neither degenerate.

    Dustin (ba94b2)

  239. Colonel Haiku re comey memo

    What do you think of Trump’s hooker turn down service?

    Pinandpuller (02f812)

  240. Careful, Dustin, you’ll be accused of being an operative for the DNC with talk like that.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  241. i’m not bashing I allowed there could be a story

    but it’s still odd not to go see your mom on her deathbed

    it’s not like he had volleyball practice

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  242. but it’s still odd not to go see your mom on her deathbed

    All you know is they weren’t there at the time of her death. You don’t know whether they came to see her before she passed. You’re bashing George and Jeb without enough knowledge.

    My children were not with my wife at the time of her death, it was just me sitting with her when she passed. But they had come to see her in the hospital before she died, and that was enough.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  243. i’m just curious how they do

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  244. I delivered oxygen to a guy I swear was in hospice for six months. He was a scam artist though. I think he burglarized somebody hauling around an E tank.

    Pinandpuller (ad46e4)

  245. His last name was Bane but it was long before I dove deep into Batman bad guys so to me it related more to Thomas Covenant The Unbeliever

    Pinandpuller (ad46e4)

  246. you will not fail however he may assail you

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  247. 247.

    but it’s still odd not to go see your mom on her deathbed

    gthey didn’t know it was her deathbed, and in fact it wasn’t.

    She was almost cerftainly killed by an opioid overdose, (considering the state of her liver at the time)

    Drinking some bourbon (alcohol) didn’t help.

    Alcohol is known to increase the possibility of fatal overdoses.

    https://americanaddictioncenters.org/alcoholism-treatment/mixing-opiates/

    Mixing Alcohol and Hydrocodone, Oxycodone, or Morphine Can Be Deadly

    ….Alcohol can enhance the sedative effects of opioid medications, leading to increased drowsiness, and it can eventually lead the person to fall asleep and be unable to wake up.

    If a person takes these two substances together, both alcohol and the opioid medications can slow down the person’s breathing rate. Without enough oxygen, the brain will begin to shut down organ systems, and the person can eventually suffer brain damage or death due to lack of oxygen.

    An individual who mixes these drugs can also fall into a coma, stop breathing, and die.

    And guess what Barbara Bush did?

    http://people.com/politics/barbara-bush-sips-bourbon-after-health-reveal/

    And a source close to the Bush family told CBS News reporter Jenna Gibson on Tuesday that, while Barbara’s chronic pulmonary disease (COPD) made breathing difficult, “she is alert and was having conversations last night. She was also having a bourbon.”

    But, sincer she was “supposed to” die soon, there will be no investigation of her death.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  248. 239. That proposed law has nothing to do with gender reassignment or surgery.

    It just says nobody is allowed to purport to correct sexual orientation. Except that they don’t really mean it. Because they would allow it for sex offenders. But then I guess tghey won’t count it as a sexual orientation.

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  249. I think maybe your understanding of “comfort care” is just a little off the mark Mr. Finkelman

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  250. the Nbew York Times has an Op-ed piece that says people can recover memory by walking.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/19/opinion/standing-up-at-your-desk-could-make-you-smarter.html

    This all puts me in mind of the Peripatetics, followers of Aristotle, who conducted their philosophical inquiries while strolling about the Lyceum in ancient Athens. Sounds as if they were on to something.

    Then why do they oppose it for Alzheimers patients?

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146)

  251. Then why do they oppose it for Alzheimers patients?

    Sammy Finkelman (02a146) — 4/20/2018 @ 2:44 pm

    Because they always forget where they’re going and where they reside, Sammeh…

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  252. 247… It’s hard to imagine life without my wife of 42 years… and I know I’ll need to deal with it if/when the time comes. But my hope is that my plan to go before her comes to pass. I realize that’s a selfish way to look at this.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  253. My grandma drank Coca Cola in hospice. At that point I might hit a crack pipe or try DMT. Supposedly DMT is secreted close to death anyway.

    Pinandpuller (9daaa5)

  254. The pigtailed hippie in “Woodstock” said it’ll hit yer Kundalini nerve or some such schiff, lol.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  255. So Dana Perino just said that Barbara Bush’s nickname was “Frank”, that she had high expectations of people, but was not a judgmental person. Sounds like an admirable woman.

    Colonel Haiku (46f395)

  256. @241. W/a face like Silly Putty, you can stretch and pull him in any direction you want, PP.

    ____

    @260. =Haiku= Gesundheit!

    Her Secret Service code name was Tranquility — so that’s either an opening for happyfeet or the SS does have a sense of humor after all.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  257. What’s admirable about Barbara Bush is that at the end, she decided how to leave the stage on her own terms; enough of being poked and probed. And her family was good w/it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  258. the SS does has a sense of humor

    plus a pervy and nigh-insatiable predilection for under-aged foreign hookers and cheap tequila

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  259. @229. No, the economy was already well into recovery by the 1992 election.

    Except it wasn’t. But thanks for playing. What do we have for him, Johnnie…

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  260. Gee, the calendar says winter ‘officially’ ended a month ago– but it’s still snowing in parts of the Midwest and northeast. How can that be, Chuckie??

    =sigh= ‘Belated recovery from the 1990–1991 recession contributed to Bill Clinton’s victory in the 1992 presidential election, during which Clinton was successful in attributing slow economic growth to incumbent president George H. W. Bush.’ – wikipedia

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  261. 264… full of schiff, as usual…

    “The economy expanded at a robust pace of 4.8 percent in the final three months of 1992, the best quarterly performance in five years, the Commerce Department reported today.

    The revised estimate of gross domestic product — the total output of goods and services within American borders — was a full percentage point higher than the initial estimate published a month ago.

    The growth rate for the full year was 2.1 percent, compared with a 1.2 percent contraction in 1991, which included the final three months of a seven-month recession that began in July 1990.

    The strong fourth-quarter showing was seen by economists as conclusive evidence of an economic surge during the second half of 1992, when the economy grew at a 4.1 percent annual rate, up from 2.2 percent for the first half”

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/1993/02/27/business/last-quarter-s-growth-revised-to-robust-4.8.html

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  262. Lefties like DCSCA don’t “embarrass easy”…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  263. Gee, the calendar says winter ‘officially’ ended a month ago– but it’s still snowing in parts of the Midwest and northeast. How can that be, Chuckie??

    It’s the new enhanced visa screening. Spring was supposed to arrive on March 20, but it’s still waiting to be cleared by Immigration.

    nk (dbc370)

  264. And, yes, I got your point about 1992. Trump has said it, too, in his usual clear and lucid manner: “I’m as rich as I feel on that day.” It’s more about public perception and less about numbers.

    nk (dbc370)

  265. =Haiku!= Gesundheit!

    ‘Belated recovery from the 1990–1991 recession contributed to Bill Clinton’s victory in the 1992 presidential election, during which Clinton was successful in attributing slow economic growth to incumbent president George H. W. Bush.’ – wikipedia

    =sigh= the atmosphere of Jupiter is desne, too, Haiku. But thanks for playing.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  266. @268. LOL

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  267. Except it wasn’t. But thanks for playing. What do we have for him, Johnnie…

    Liar. You offer nothing in rebuttal, just your own hand-waving. The Colonel has already proven you wrong, but I’ll offer more info.

    According to this table

    Mar 31, 1993 3.30%
    Dec 31, 1992 4.33%
    Sep 30, 1992 3.74%
    Jun 30, 1992 3.24%
    Mar 31, 1992 2.90%
    Dec 31, 1991 1.22%
    Sep 30, 1991 -0.07%
    Jun 30, 1991 -0.53%
    Mar 31, 1991 -0.91%

    1991’s recession was one of the mildest ever. And the economy rebounded nicely by the end of 1991. At the time of the 1992 election, the economy was in full boom.

    I’ll say it again: you are a liar.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  268. Celebrate GHWB’s second term– or build some snowmen, Haiku.

    ‘Only by December, 1992 did the overall pattern of economic activity appear to be strong enough to warrant the determination of the trough date.’ – NBER.org

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  269. @272. I’ll say it again: you are a denier.

    Guess GHWB lost cause of that booming turn around and, oh, yes, that pesky grocery scanner.

    Guess what, Chuckie, winter ended a month ago– but golly gee, it’s still snowing. And BTW, the atmosphere f Jupiter is dense, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  270. Facts don’t matter to lefties, Chuck, they suck on the spin.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  271. Gee, the calendar says winter ‘officially’ ended a month ago– but it’s still snowing in parts of the Midwest and northeast. How can that be, Chuckie??

    I can’t believe you asked such a stupid, disingenuous question. Snow is not synonymous with winter. In many parts of the country, snow will fall in spring and autumn in addition to winter.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  272. Guess GHWB lost cause of that booming turn around and, oh, yes, that pesky grocery scanner.

    Clinton and Gore spent the entire 1992 campaign complaining about the economy. They called it the worst economy in 50 years (or since the Great Depression, which shows they didn’t know how to count).

    Them calling it a bad economy didn’t make it a bad economy. But it drove public perception. Public perception and truth only occasionally intersect, and the two were far apart in 1992.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  273. @277. Public perception and truth only occasionally intersect, and the two were far apart in 1992.

    Except it wasn’t, Chuckie. 12% of the office space along the Manhattan skyline was empty and unleased in November, 1992. The real estate and job markets were a disaster- foreclosures and evictions all over; that was a reality those of us in metro NY lived, not a perception. Watch a neighbor w/her kids foreclosed on the day before Thanksgiving. That’s reality. Not a lie.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  274. That snow comment had to come from a mentally challenged individual.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  275. Effing Bowery Bum anyway…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  276. @273. =Haiku= Gesundheit.

    Facts:‘Only by December, 1992 did the overall pattern of economic activity appear to be strong enough to warrant the determination of the trough date.’ – NBER.org

    Build them snowmen.

    _____

    @276. I can’t believe you asked such a stupid, disingenuous question.

    Can’t believe it didn’t sink in– but then, wait for the May melt. Or perhaps you’re merely a climate change denier, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  277. 280.Effing Bowery Bum anyway…

    =Haiku!= Gesundheit!

    Kiss it: Bowery Bums be New Yorkers just like our soon-to-win-a-Nobel-Peace-Prize-Captain. Kiss that, too.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  278. @272. At the time of the 1992 election, the economy was in full boom.

    That is a lie. But thanks for playing. What do we have for him, Johnnie…

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  279. @261 DCSCA

    So she had a moon face?

    Pinandpuller (be5553)

  280. @284- A regular Honeymooner, PP!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  281. 283… full upswing, as shown by the numbers, nitwit.

    Wow!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  282. @286. Only by December, 1992 did the overall pattern of economic activity appear to be strong enough to warrant the determination of the trough date.’ – NBER.org

    Winder fficially ended n March– and it’s still snowing in places in April! Wow!! Porkrind.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  283. 287… That’s opinion. The numbers don’t support that opinion. What don’t you understand about that?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  284. opinions are like poopholes chuck todd has one

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  285. @288/277. =yawn= You know who you should ask about the state of the economy in the ‘real world’ back then?

    Donald Trump – currently the President of the United States of America:

    COMPANY NEWS; TRUMP’S PLAZA HOTEL BANKRUPTCY PLAN APPROVEDNYT, December 12, 1992

    A Federal bankruptcy judge yesterday approved a prepackaged bankruptcy plan for Donald J. Trump’s Plaza Hotel, giving a 49 percent stake in the luxury hotel to Citibank and five other lenders. Under the plan, Mr. Trump will still be employed as chief executive but he will not be paid and will not have a role in day-to-day operations, said Matthew Feldman, a lawyer representing the Trump Organization.

    The hotel was unable to meet its debt service payments and filed for bankruptcy protection on Nov. 2, [1992.] Lawyers said Mr. Trump would continue to work on marketing plans for the Fifth Avenue hotel, which overlooks Central Park in midtown Manhattan. The lenders, which include the Industrial Bank of Japan, will take control of the hotel in exchange for giving more favorable terms to Mr. Trump on more than $550 million in debt on the hotel. The plan was approved by United States Bankruptcy Judge Prudence Abram.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  286. Rush Limbaugh says, “Nobody had ever tried to fool us this way. I don’t care if he did it or not…” Rush was talking about the story of “John Barron” fooling Forbes into getting Trump on their 400 Richest List. That’s right. “I don’t care if he did it or not”.

    Rush, you are as messed up as Mr. Barron.

    noel (b4d580)

  287. Oh, but Trump will release those tax returns soon as that audit is over ya know. Believe him. When he says something, he does it.

    noel (b4d580)

  288. i want my trump and i want your revenge

    i want my trump i don’t wanna be friends

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  289. I wonder what Trump told the banks when he borrowed all of those millions. After he convinced Forbes to publish that he was worth hundreds of millions, would he then have admitted to bankers that he was worth a fraction of that?

    noel (b4d580)

  290. The Mayor of NYC in 1992 was David f’n Dinkins and you have the nerve to blame President Bush for NYC’s vacancies?

    NYC was claimed by the left to be ungovernable until Rudy Giuliani turned it around.

    I lived through it. I know.

    You are a con-artist ASPCA.

    NJRob (7be0f4)

  291. me and Prez. Trump are de-nuklurizing the kimchi penisula

    it’s quite a task but meet us at the bar later

    you’ll be glad u did

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  292. argh *peninsula*

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  293. Except it wasn’t, Chuckie. 12% of the office space along the Manhattan skyline was empty and unleased in November, 1992.

    You do realize that New York wasn’t the only city in the United States in 1992, right? You do realize that even when the economy is booming, some areas will experience higher vacancy rates than others, right?

    A boom or a bust is never uniformly distributed across the country. You know that, yet you persist with dishonest assertions of meaningless data with no hard facts to back them up.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  294. @286. Only by December, 1992 did the overall pattern of economic activity appear to be strong enough to warrant the determination of the trough date.’ – NBER.org

    Ahem. According the NBER, the recession ended in March, 1991 I’m using your own source to prove you wrong, nitwit.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  295. Hey mr happyfeet did you know the dirty chinesers used sticky rice in their mortar for the great wall? It’s almost certainly true.

    Pinandpuller (be5553)

  296. yesyes Mr. puller no experience needed earn $100-$9000 in daily commission 100% proven 200% legitimate!

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  297. Hey mr happyfeet did you know the dirty chinesers used sticky rice in their mortar for the great wall?

    The bodies of the workers, too.

    Dave (445e97)

  298. because when the sun shines we shine together Mr. Dave

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  299. We all get to see how DCSCA operates: with half-truths and hand-waving.

    Here is a direct quote from the page he cited (emphasis mine):

    Previously, the committee had determined that the economy reached a peak of activity in July 1990. The eight-month period between July 1990 and March 1991 is a recession in the NBER’s chronology. The committee thus determined that the recession ended in March 1991 and that an expansion began at that time.

    The committee had waited to make the determination of the trough date until it was confident that any future downturn in the economy would be considered a new recession and not a continuation of the recession that began in July 1990. The committee noted that the broadest measure of economic activity — gross domestic product in constant dollars — had finally surpassed its previous peak by the third quarter of 1992. Only by December did the overall pattern of economic activity appear to be strong enough to warrant the determination of the trough date.

    But DCSCA cited only the last sentence of the second paragraph, in attempt to show that the economy was somehow failing in November of 1992. He had to have seen that the economy started expanding after March, 1991 — it was right there in the page he cited. So, he’s being deliberately false by leaving that information off his quote.

    I, and others, have shown repeated that the economy wasn’t tanking in November, 1992. But DCSCA keeps lying about it.

    I don’t have a problem with liberals in general. I know several that are intelligent, thoughtful people, and we are friends despite our disagreements on government. But DCSCA is neither intelligent nor thoughtful: he is deceitful and weak-minded.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  300. There’s a 2,000 year old fort at the western end of the wall on the Silk Road named Shanmachung which means Horse Castration Fort. They aren’t woke yet.

    Pinandpuller (be5553)

  301. because

    when the sun shines we shine together

    horse castration fort whatever

    you can stan unner my ummereler

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  302. @304. I, and others, have shown repeated that the economy wasn’t tanking in November, 1992. But DCSCA keeps lying about it.

    See #290, Chuckie-wuckie.

    Then take it up with President Trump. You’ve been tagged and bagged, chump.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  303. @295. NYC was claimed by the left to be ungovernable until Rudy Giuliani turned it around.

    Gestapo Rudy or Drag Queen Rudy? Lots of people lived through it– not just you.

    Some think they know. More know better.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  304. 294.I wonder what Trump told the banks when he borrowed all of those millions. After he convinced Forbes to publish that he was worth hundreds of millions, would he then have admitted to bankers that he was worth a fraction of that?

    He owed so much he was too big to fail. Sound familiar?

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  305. @298. Don’t be a boob, nitwit. Your own citations proves my point. Gee, why does it snow in April when winter officially ends in March? Why is gas $2.99/gal. nationally yet $5/gallon in California? Why is a 12 room house and an acre of land $50,000 in Allegheny County PA and $850,000 in Orange County, CA? You are simply not dealing in reality. You know, like Trump did: when the economy you try to spin as good was still in the tank in pockets all over the place– like the Northeast:

    Bankruptcies: Trump’s Castle and Trump Plaza Casinos (1992): Less than a year after the Taj Mahal bankruptcy Trump filed for Chapter 11 protection again for two more Atlantic City hotel-casinos, the Trump Plaza and Trump’s Castle, over their inability to make principal and interest payments on bonds. The Plaza ($550 million in debt) and the Castle ($338 million in debt) were competing against each other, as well as against the Taj Mahal, and Trump gave up a 50% share in exchange for more favorable terms on the debts.

    Trump Plaza Hotel (1992): Donald Trump filed for bankruptcy protection a third time in 1992 over the Trump Plaza Hotel on New York’s famous Fifth Avenue, overlooking Central Park in midtown Manhattan. Once again, Trump gave up a 49% stake in the property to secure more favorable terms from lenders on the luxury hotel’s debt of more than $550 million.

    Thanks for playing.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  306. Why does it snow outside of winter? Location, location, location.

    Pinandpuller (be5553)

  307. Dim bulb ASPCA…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  308. @312. =Haiku!= Gesundheit=

    Bright lights; big city.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  309. coma baby lives

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  310. You know something, Chuckie-Wuckie, the economy in the Northeast was just fine: Trump should sue.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  311. It’s fascinating to reach partisan republicans these days.

    You don’t get it. I view partisanship — the idea that one sticks with a team that is, generally, working in the right direction against the other team that is, generally, doing evil things — as a proud principle, not as some nasty little secret as you do.

    Even now, with Trump, the GOP is doing 60% of what I like. It used to be more, but that’s the way it is right now. It has been less (e.g. the Nixon administration). On the other side of the aisle — and there are only two sides — you have a party which is hell-bent for, well, Hell. I live in California, so I have no illusions about what they want. They do it here, first.

    It is totally UNprincipled to take your ball and go home when the game doesn’t go your way. The people who man up and work to fix the system are the ones with principles.

    But, fine, stand up their in your ivory tower and cast all the aspersions you want.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  312. Recall, too, at that time the economy was tanking as the Reaganomics balloon was bursting on Bush’s watch.

    Oh, bollocks. That is so historically illiterate as to defy my low expectations. WTF do they teach in schools?

    The 1992 recession was due to the end of the Cold War as the aerospace industry retrenched in 1990-91. I know this because it was a mild recession most places, but in the place I lived (Southern California) it was deep and lasted until ’95. At the end about 6 aerospace companies that used to be based in SoCal were merged and/or moved to Atlanta. Los Angeles, which had been a two-industry town was now a one-industry town. And the leftward drift sped up.

    But it had NOTHING to do with Reaganomics.

    The Long Boom that started in 1982 lasted until 1999, and crashed mainly because Clinton goosed the economy to get his balanced budget. The dot-com boom was enabled by Reagan’s freeing of capital. It wasn’t until the dot-com crash that Reaganomics had its first serious test.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  313. @317- But it had NOTHING to do with Reaganomics.

    Except it did- and hardly mild, K, particularly in the Northeast, far from warm and sunny SoCal’s aerospace collapse– which was feeding off recent war at the tme as well. It was Bush’s misfortune to get tagged with it.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  314. @317. Real estate collapse in the Northeast was a long way from you, K.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  315. Clinton goosed the economy yes but he flat out raped several women with his herpes penis

    he overpowered them with his size, stripped their clothes off, and then he force his herpes penis into them even if they were like yeah no thank you bill

    this is fundamentally indistinguishable from rape if you have a title whatever form handy

    *sigh*

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  316. *forced* i mean

    that’s what bill did

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  317. All you know is they weren’t there at the time of her death. You don’t know whether they came to see her before she passed. You’re bashing George and Jeb without enough knowledge.

    I was not there to see my Mon at the time she passed. The family had gathered there two days before, for her 96th birthday, and it was clear the end was near, but there was no way to tell which day, or even week, that would be. She had been ion hospice for almost a year. It turned out that she died two days later.

    When people get the care that the Bush’s obviously gave, the decline is prolonged. I am not sure it is a blessing, as the body can take a long time to shut down, system by system, with the quality of life long gone. Even when all but palliative drugs are withheld, a person who was strong in life like Barbara Bush (or my mom) has a lot of reserves to spend.

    It’s not like the movies.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  318. No post of mine is valid without at least two typos.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  319. @322. Was not there to see my Dad at the time when he passed. Spoke w/him on the phone about a Steeler game on TV- he was fine. Just 4 hours later, w/o any warning or hint of illness, he literally dropped dead in front of my mother w/his dinner on the table. Silent killer.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  320. Guess GHWB lost cause of that booming turn around and, oh, yes, that pesky grocery scanner.

    1. The grocery scanner video was a setup and just not true.

    2. The press was in Clinton’s corner and lied a lot, including about the economy. And see 1.

    3. And, as I said, the cause of the recession was the post-Cold-War collapse of Grumman, Rockwell, McDonald-Douglas, Lear, Ford Aerospace, GE Aerospace, Martin Marietta, and a dozen others, which were all consolidated into other firms in the early 90s. It devastated the Southern California economy, with housing prices not reaching their 1990 levels until 1998.

    The ripples from this are what everyone else felt.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  321. I, and others, have shown repeated that the economy wasn’t tanking in November, 1992. But DCSCA keeps lying about it.

    When someone takes a quote out of context to spin it into its opposite, they are outright lying. It’s hard to say otherwise, although abject stupidity is always a defense.

    Kevin M (752a26)

  322. @317- But it had NOTHING to do with Reaganomics.

    Except it did- and hardly mild, K, particularly in the Northeast, far from warm and sunny SoCal’s aerospace collapse– which was feeding off recent war at the tme as well. It was Bush’s misfortune to get tagged with it.

    Hunh? You assert something then argue the opposite, as if this prives your point. Or do you conflate the fall of the Soviet Union with Reaganomics?

    Or, as I suspect, are you now trying to muddle the waters now that your lie is exposed?

    Kevin M (752a26)

  323. I was just watching Unearthed where they were talking about the first Chinese emperor. They thought that mercury sulfide or cinnebar was magical. When you heat it it releases the sulfur and becomes liquid mercury. You can mix it with sulfur and convert it back. They thought cinnebar could give you immortality so the guy took it and ended up dying in his 50’s. But he did have a spectacular terra cotta army. And probably a jade death suit like others they have found.

    Pinandpuller (be5553)

  324. @326/327. Except it’s not. But do have lunch w/t President some time and chat about economic conditions in the Northeast, circa 1992. It was so good, he only managed to go bankrupt a few times. Good times! You know, Trump outta sue.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  325. @327. Tagged and bagged. =sigh=

    California Still Reeling From Recession Blow – latimes

    articles.latimes.com/1992-06-28/business/fi-2101_1_southern-california

    Jun 28, 1992 – California Still Reeling From Recession Blow … Unfortunately, the halting improvement under way outside California and the Northeast is weak-kneed at best. … Estimates vary, but California appears to have lost between 500,000 and 700,000 non-farm jobs in the downturn, which started in mid-1990.

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  326. @298. Don’t be a boob, nitwit. Your own citations proves my point.

    More lies. Your initial assertion was that the economy was tanking in November, 1992. You’ve been proved wrong. Your own source says that by November, 1992, the economy had been expanding for 20 months. That’s not tanking, no matter how often you lie about it.

    I’m done with you, liar.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  327. Chuck, you know this guy’s bizarre history. He is just like Commander McBragg from cartoons: he was there at every important event, and knows everything. Patterico for the most part just lets the trolls rave. His choice. He does draw the line with people who lie about him. So the Patterico Troll Brigade is pretty careful.

    As for your current troll, note he has never ever admitted he was wrong about anything. Enough said

    I’m glad you post comments above the trollish din these days.

    Simon Jester (3697fa)

  328. Chuck, you know this guy’s bizarre history. He is just like Commander McBragg from cartoons: he was there at every important event, and knows everything. Patterico for the most part just lets the trolls rave. His choice. He does draw the line with people who lie about him. So the Patterico Troll Brigade is pretty careful.

    As for your current troll, note he has never ever admitted he was wrong about anything. Enough said

    I know, Simon. DCSCA will never admit he’s wrong. The conversation here can be boiled down to this:

    DCSCA: The economy was tanking in November, 1992

    Smarter People: No, the economy was expanding, and had been for several months at the time

    DCSCA: But it’s snowing in April! And the NBER says it couldn’t place the trough date until December, 1992

    Smarter People: The NBER says the recession ended in March, 1991, and the economy was expanding since.

    DCSCA: But it’s snowing in April! Go ask Trump!

    No facts from him, just random assertions and a lot of hand-waving. I take him about as seriously as Elizabeth Taylor took her marriage vows.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  329. This law would likely prevent psychiatrists from offering their services to, or continuing to treat, such patients.

    There is an exception in the bill:

    (2) “Sexual orientation change efforts” does not include psychotherapies that: (A) provide acceptance, support, and understanding of clients or the facilitation of clients’ coping, social support, and identity exploration and development, including sexual orientation-neutral interventions to prevent or address unlawful conduct or unsafe sexual practices; and (B) do not seek to change sexual orientation.

    Dave (445e97)

  330. B kills it. 9th Amendment. Roe v. Wade and progeny. The right of the patient and doctor to diagnose and decide how to treat.

    Don’t agree? Go to South Baptistan and turn it around. A law forbidding a psychiatrist to prescribe a sex change as a treatment for gender dysphoria or to “provide acceptance, support, and understanding of clients or the facilitation of clients’ coping, social support, and identity exploration and development”.

    nk (dbc370)

  331. It is totally UNprincipled to take your ball and go home when the game doesn’t go your way.

    No, it is properly recognizing that there are more important principles than political principles.

    DRJ said it perfectly:

    Is there anything Trump could do that would make you desert him?

    If there is, then you have a moral line you won’t cross. It doesn’t matter that it is different than mine, we both have them. If there isn’t anything he could do that would make you say “Enough,” please think about what that means.

    Dave (445e97)

  332. B kills it. 9th Amendment. Roe v. Wade and progeny. The right of the patient and doctor to diagnose and decide how to treat.

    Does that right extend to “quack science” which various professional organizations say is ineffective and harmful?

    If a doctor advertised and performed, say, medieval-style blood leeching as a cure for cancer, would the state be unable to prohibit it?

    Dave (445e97)

  333. Atonement

    Atonement

    Atonement

    Trump is on the cusp of making America a wonderful place for business, African Americans unemployment is lifting thousands upon thousands of people permanently out of poverty. Single mothers unemployment the lowest in two decades

    Yeah, he slept with a lot of women. Married a lot of women, paid off a lot of women. None of which is a crime

    Some people think that Trumps morality is lower than the scum bag democrats who in Connecticut disallowed teachers and administrators to carry a gun and teacher after teacher rushed a gun men died horribly so their children would have a Chance. The murderous scum bag democrats have allowed Chicago streets to run red with the blood of innocents and suppressed the police response.

    The disloyal, treasonous Democrats who scrapped the navy in the 90’s to bail out their union lackeys pension plans, and then did it yet again in the Obama years again to bail out unions, hundreds of American pilots died because of this

    And then we have pelosi, from a political crime family, taking away our health care, wanting to take away our money, our crumbs

    Yeah I view morality a little bit different. As a sinner, who has done some things, I wish I hadn’t, my only excuse it was for the betterment of my fellow citizens, I cringe at the suggestion that we must repudiate a man who employs what 75,000 people, and may actually free 25 million people from a brutal dictatorship and help 250 million of our allies threatened by North Korea.

    A president who told China your one sided economic expansion is over, join the world, or reap the whirlwind.

    Yet here is stupid, a moron, immoral, a jackass

    All I can say is we need more of them

    EPWJ (134698)

  334. If a doctor advertised and performed, say, medieval-style blood leeching as a cure for cancer, would the state be unable to prohibit it?

    Leeches, the insect, and other forms of leeching are still used in medicine. I don’t know if they are generally accepted in the medical community as a treatment for cancer to suck out the blood which nourishes cancerous tumors. Although there are other treatments (maybe still only experimental) which purport to do that — deprive a tumor of blood and nutrients.

    In my estimation, the answer to your broader question is yes. A doctor may try experimental and as yet unproven treatments if he follows the protocols and fully informs the patients. It’s done all the time, with both procedures and drugs. And they do advertise for patients to participate in the studies.

    nk (dbc370)

  335. Yes, they detest Trump, but Where. Is. The. Crime?

    Meanwhile – back in the real world – the potentially criminal activities of Brennan, Clapper, Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Power, Rosenstein, etc. are well documented. Let’s continue to pull the loose thread on this widescale attempt to overturn the results of the November 2016 election and shine the brightest of spotlights on the whole, goddamned coup.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  336. Up the street from me, is a ginormous billboard advertising Vivitrol. That’s a subcutaneously implanted time-release form of naltroxone, the “antabuse” for opioids. It has little effect on reducing the craving for opioid addicts, it only keeps them from getting high when they indulge. But it works well off label on alcoholics to reduce the craving for alcohol. Should there be a law against that?

    nk (dbc370)

  337. Good points, nk.

    It does seem difficult to prohibit something advertised as an experimental treatment, but typically such studies come with a disclaimer that they are not known to be safe or effective.

    Dave (445e97)

  338. Gimpinista Seven

    Ring, ring, it’s 7:00 A.M.
    Move yourself to go again
    Cold water in the face
    Brings you back to this blog post place
    Bullschiff merchants and teh wankers too
    Pay attention and learn those rules
    Bullschiff artist or commander-in-chief
    Full court press strains belief
    A.M., the F.M. the P.M. too
    Churnin’ out that dog doo doo
    Gets you up and it gets you out
    But how long can you keep it up?
    Gimme Mueller, gimme Comey
    One so trite, the other phony
    Save a dollar, save a dime
    Cut to teh chase, make ‘em both serve time
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, give it all you got
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, yeah
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, give it all you got
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, yeah
    Working for a coup, better their nation
    Blog host suffers from constipation
    Seen the show, stinks on ice
    But no sale… won’t pay the price
    Former friends thrown under the bus
    Just a day’s work, you ain’t one of us
    Clocks go slow in a place of work
    Minutes drag and duties shirked
    Yeah, wave bye, bye
    Wave bub-bub-bub-bye to the boss
    It’s our profit, it’s his loss
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, give it all you got
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, huh
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, give it all you got, yeah
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, give it all you got

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  339. What she the stuff that makes drinkers violently ill?

    Leeches are used on reattached extremities to draw blood in and for natural anticoagulants I believe.

    Pinandpuller (1a6370)

  340. Haiku poetry. Giving form to free association.

    noel (b4d580)

  341. @333. See 330.

    Chuckie-wuckie needs a lunchie-wunchie w/Donald Trumpie– to discuss the economic conditions on the Northeast circa 1992. You two liars can compare notes.

    You’ve tagged, bagged and shipped. Bu Amazon. Ouch!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  342. So the Patterico Troll Brigade is pretty careful.

    ROFLMAOPIP. But they let you in anyway. Spring sale on elbow patches, dear!

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  343. Chuck B: every time this character gets to be too much, watch this:

    https://youtu.be/q4roxM8hUMk

    Nails him to a T.

    Lots of people here know ALL of his bizarre fabrications over the years. So long as he is polite, who cares? But when he gets nasty, it’s always good to review his weirdo braggadocio with links.

    The Internet is forever!

    Simon Jester (3697fa)

  344. @349. ROFLMAOPIP My. Is my stashe really as big as Bolton’s?

    And this nails you to the floor:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4zyjLyBp64

    DCSCA (797bc0)

  345. Ring, ring, it’s 7:00 A.M.
    Move yourself to go again
    Cold water in the face
    Brings you back to this blog post place
    Bullschiff merchants and teh wankers too
    Pay attention and learn those rules
    Bullschiff artist or commander-in-chief
    Full court press strains belief
    A.M., the F.M. the P.M. too
    Churnin’ out that dog doo doo
    Gets you up and it gets you out
    But how long can you keep it up?
    Gimme Mueller, gimme Comey
    One so trite, the other phony
    Save a dollar, save a dime
    Cut to teh chase, make ‘em both serve time
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, give it all you got
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, yeah
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, give it all you got
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, yeah
    Working for a coup, better their nation
    Blog host suffers from constipation
    Seen the show, stinks on ice
    But no sale… won’t pay the price
    Former friends thrown under the bus
    Just a day’s work, you ain’t one of us
    Clocks go slow in a place of work
    Minutes drag and duties shirked

    Yeah, wave bye, bye
    Wave bub-bub-bub-bye to the boss
    It’s our profit, it’s his loss
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, give it all you got
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, huh
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, give it all you got, yeah
    You lot, what?
    Don’t stop, give it all you got

    I have no idea what all this means, but the bolded part could be read as an accusation that the biog host is shirking his duties as work. For the benefit of anyone who might read it that way, please clarify that you don’t mean that.

    Patterico (b1f26f)

  346. Trolls gotta troll.

    I was just reviewing some of the “Greatest Hits” of some trolls in the past. Amazing. Google is a wonderful thing.

    Patterico, I hope your Saturday is pleasant.

    Simon Jester (3697fa)

  347. I do not mean that, nor would I think that.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  348. Hey noel, Trump is hosting a State Dinner for Macron and no Democrats or Media are invited. How does your head feel?

    Pinandpuller (69da0c)

  349. Isn’t Sean going to be there? Fox and Friends? I am outraged at the absence of “fair and balanced” Pinandpuller.

    noel (b4d580)

  350. I have a home version of Cerebro and I saw heads exploding all over the US. I was worried about you, noel.

    Pinandpuller (69da0c)

  351. I am comforted to know that you are worried about me. But now it is time to acknowledge that you are the victim here.

    Just in…. Donald Trump claims to have a 33,000 sq. ft. penthouse on the upper floors of his 68 story Trump Tower. And it is worth $200 million. But victims of this hoax (pinandpuller), must now face the truth. There is indeed a penthouse in Trump Tower but the rest…. is not true. Not the square feet. Not the value. Not the number of floors (not even close). Yes, you are a victim of the con.

    But don’t believe that lying, leftist, Hillary lovin, fascist noel. Look it up for yourself. And THEN go into denial.

    noel (b4d580)

  352. “But don’t believe that lying, leftist, Hillary lovin, fascist noel.”

    So it is written…

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  353. And the sprinklers. Well. That’s another story.

    noel (b4d580)

  354. Who lobbies AGAINST sprinklers in high-rises? Nobody, right?

    Not exactly.

    noel (b4d580)

  355. You and your leftist comrades are really worried about some stupid things, comrade noel. Like Trumps living conditions and living arrangements and such. Why is that? You all don’t seemed concerned how leftists manage to afford multiple million dollar abodes but a known billionaire like Trump seems to vex you. Odd.

    Perhaps you’d be better served if you joined the DNC lawsuit as a concerned citizen? After all the left would file suit against each and every deplorable who voted for Trump if they could get away with it.

    BTW, there are many people including tenants who lobby AGAINST sprinklers. They are ugly and ruin the look of the inlaid ceiling. Sprinklers in the halls and common areas are usually enough. They were at Trump Tower. Besides, why do you care about high rises do you live in one? Or are you just doing the usual leftist thing and sticking your nose in somebody else’s business?

    Rev.Hoagie (1b0402)

  356. Chuckie-wuckie needs a lunchie-wunchie w/Donald Trumpie– to discuss the economic conditions on the Northeast circa 1992. You two liars can compare notes.

    First, I would never eat lunch with Trump. Second, there isn’t one thing I’ve posted here that is a lie. I’ve backed up everything with links. You, on the other hand, keep waving your hand and pretending that you’re right.

    Keep telling yourself the Big Lie. Maybe it will come true.

    Chuck Bartowski (211c17)

  357. Well I barely know anything about Trump Tower as it is, noel. I’ve never been to NYC myself. Now there’s always a difference between what the government thinks your property is worth for tax valuation, what you would ask for it and ultimately take for it. What you’ve failed to do is show me how I’m a victim in this hoax. Lawyers use the word “standing”.

    Pinandpuller (d750e8)

  358. Now if you can show me where Trump lied and inflated the value of his slave holdings, I’m listening.

    Pinandpuller (d750e8)

  359. Rev Hoagie

    According to Die Hard high rises have fire hoses.

    Pinandpuller (d750e8)

  360. You are a victim of “the con”, Pinandpuller. I am not suggesting you were fooled into buying one of his fire hazards.

    noel (b4d580)


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