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1/6/2017

DEVELOPING: Nine Reported Shot at Ft. Lauderdale Airport [Updated]

Filed under: General — JVW @ 10:42 am

[guest post by JVW]

Fox News reports that nine people have been shot at Terminal 2 baggage claim at Ft. Lauderdale International Airport, and a radio report just claimed that at least three are dead. The gunman is also apparently dead, though it wasn’t mentioned whether he was included in the three. The airport has naturally been evacuated.

More to come as details emerge. I will be unavailable for part of this afternoon, so I welcome commenter input, and invite Dana and Patterico to update this post as more details emerge.

[Update]CNN reports that the gunman is not dead, but in custody.

[Update II] – Three people dead, as reported on radio, is now officially “multiple people dead” according to CNN and Fox, via the Broward County Sheriff’s Office.

[Update III] – Sadly, reports are now that five are dead in this attack. Sammy Finkelman reports this via Ari Fleischer, who was traveling through FLL, and the number was just repeated on a radio report.

[Update IV] – Fox now reports that five are dead and eight have been rushed to hospitals. They also quote Senator Bill Nelson as telling reporters that the gunman’s name is Esteban Santiago. Thanks to narciso for the heads-up.

– JVW

60 Responses to “DEVELOPING: Nine Reported Shot at Ft. Lauderdale Airport [Updated]”

  1. [Update]CNN reports that the gunman is not dead, but in custody.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  2. [Update II] – Three people dead, as reported on radio, is now officially “multiple people dead” according to CNN and Fox, via the Broward County Sheriff’s Office.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  3. One of the first sources of news about this was a tweet by Ari Fleischer, former White House spokesman for President George W. Bush, who was somewhere else in the airport.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/arifleischer?lang=en

    52 minutes ago he tweeted taht all seems to be calm now.

    Sammy Finkelman (6c2cdd)

  4. Ari Fleischer said the police said one shooter and five victims.

    Sammy Finkelman (6c2cdd)

  5. Via the Daily Telegraph: The mayor of Broward County, Barbara Sharief, said there is no evidence at this time that this was anything other than a single shooter. But the airport is shut down. They are trying to “activate other areas in the airport so we can move passengers along.”

    Governor Rick Scott of Florida is travelling to the airport, and said he could not confirm the death toll.

    Sammy Finkelman (6c2cdd)

  6. [Update III] – Sadly, reports are now that five are dead in this attack. Sammy Finkelman reports this via Ari Fleischer, who was traveling through FLL, and the number was just repeated on a radio report.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  7. FWIW, the three airlines which regularly use Terminal 2 are Air Canada, Condor and Delta. I use Jet Blue, which is in Terminal 3. It’s not a particularly large airport, much of its passenger traffic consists of people heading to and from the cruise ships at Port Everglades, mostly on Saturday and Sunday, although the holidays may have impacted that this week.

    Departures and Baggage Claim are on the lower level. Arrivals and the TSA chokeholds are on the upper level. Pretty much anyone can park themselves or take a taxi, or literally walk in from the street (although it’s a longish walk, and on cars-only roads for part of it), and go direct to Baggage Claim with no obstacle.

    Kishnevi (fb4c79)

  8. Ari Fleischer said five “victims”

    Sammy Finkelman (6c2cdd)

  9. esteban Santiago, according to senator bill nelson,

    narciso (d1f714)

  10. [Update IV] – Fox now reports that five are dead and eight have been rushed to hospitals. They also quote Senator Bill Nelson as telling reporters that the gunman’s name is Esteban Santiago. Thanks to narciso for the heads-up.

    JVW (6e49ce)

  11. He was carrying military ID amd eas wearing a Star Wars shirt. I wonder if Esteban Santiago is not his real name, especially if that military ID was forged.

    Esteban Santiago is the name of a recurring character on CW dramedy Jane the Virgin.

    http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0539864/

    (The character Jane is Catholic and discovers that she was accidentally artificially inseminated)

    Here is about the real person:

    http://coed.com/2017/01/06/esteban-santiago-shooter-fort-lauderdale-hollywood-airport-shooting-information-updates/

    As soon as the authorities arrived, he stopped shooting and calmly waited to be arrested.

    .

    Sammy Finkelman (6c2cdd)

  12. I guess the Catholics are at it again after a four hundred year hiatus.

    Pinandpuller (fefce5)

  13. (via Yahoo News) and their stream, Santiago boarded a Canadian flight (no airline attributed) and had the firearm in a checked bag. He then retrieved the bag from the carousel and went to load weapon in restroom then exited and started firing. I think the Estaban is at best fake, and at worst dead with his persona appropriated. The easy movement of the gun through the Canadian check-in area to the plane’s cargo hold indicates cooperation of airline/airport personnel, poorly trained staff, or an elaborate means to hide the imagery of a firearm within the luggage.

    urbanleftbehind (5eecdb)

  14. The name Esteban Santiago does come from the from military ID he was carrying.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  15. Another shooting in a gun free zone. Sad.

    But I think we need to make it illegaller so that will stop it!

    Patrick Henry, the 2nd (2ab6f6)

  16. Esteban Santiago is name of a fictional character. There might not be any real person behind the ID.

    Of course it might be his real name – there are not as many Hispanic surnames as others.

    We don’t have the killer’s “cause” if any, but it obviously wasn’t a form of suicide.

    Sammy Finkelman (643dcd)

  17. 14
    Given the terminal, that would be Air Canada.
    Its rules for firearms can be found here
    https://beta.aircanada.com/us/en/aco/home/plan/baggage/restricted-and-prohibited-items.html
    Short form: he could have had a firearm in his luggage openly and legally if it was a permitted type of gun.

    Kishnevi (fb4c79)

  18. He lived in anchorage for a time, perhaps ft. wainwright, had minor charges of assault perhaps related to domestic violence, deferred prosecution, on his honor,

    narciso (d1f714)

  19. It looks like Esteban Santiago is his real name. They found out more facts about him:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/06/esteban-santiago-id-d-as-airport-gunman-flew-with-gun-in-checked-luggage.html

    Santiago was born in New Jersey, according to NBC News, and was a member of the U.S. Army National Guard. ABC News reports Santiago joined the National Guard in early 2016 and was honorably discharged approximately four months ago.

    Santiago had lived in Anchorage since 2014, according to Alaskan court records. Those records show a criminal record there for minor traffic infractions including operating a vehicle without insurance and a broken taillight. Records also show his landlord evicted him for non-payment of rent in February 2015.

    In January 2016, Santiago was charged with two misdemeanor crimes: one count of fourth-degree assault and another for damage of property over $50. According to a spokesperson from the Anchorage Police department the incident was related to domestic violence.

    The case was resolved in March when Santiago entered into a deferred prosecution agreement, an alternative to adjudication where a state prosecutor dismissed the charges in exchange for Esteban’s completion of requirements that are unknown.

    Sammy Finkelman (6c2cdd)

  20. I suppose tomorrow we should expect another stupid fake PSA from the hard leftists of Hollywood about the dangers of guns….again. You know the sort of video. Where those smarter than us rich guys in their gated communities with armed guards, body guards and 20 foot walls tell us plebeians how dumb we are or dare I say deplorable? Like this:

    https://youtu.be/95HMg1l13EM

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  21. Looks like there is no possible way to discern a motive, none, whatever, nope. As usual.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  22. People are dead and here you are worrying about why leftists will say.

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  23. Santiago can also be Portuguese, which would take us to Brazil or the Cape Verde Islands. Esteban could have just sounded better than Estevao.

    urbanleftbehind (b6961b)

  24. He is of Puerto Rican background, air Canada denied he was on their flight, and it gets stranger after that.

    narciso (d1f714)

  25. The local CBS affiliate says he went to FBI office in anchorage was being recruited by isis

    narciso (d1f714)

  26. @Davethulhu:People are dead and here you are worrying about why leftists will say.

    People are always dead, and living people are always trying to use them as props. Don’t know what to say, it’s a fallen world, and thinking about these things is necessary for navigating it.

    What you say here applies as well to Obamacare, or the PATRIOT Act, or Sandy Hook, or pretty much anything else where someone in authority might try to restrict liberty in the name of keeping people safe.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  27. Gabriel Hanna

    I’m sure his mama knitted him that keffiyeh for those cold 1001 Alaskan nights.

    Pinandpuller (fefce5)

  28. You realize that you’re using them as props right now? Nobody’s said anything yet, but here you are having to get the first word in about how terrible these leftists are going to be about this.

    Davethulhu (fab944)

  29. @Davethulhu:Nobody’s said anything yet, but here you are having to get the first word in about how terrible these leftists are going to be about this.

    Are you addressing someone standing behind me? Because I didn’t say anything about leftists.

    But do I have to be concerned about the issue you claim we are so deplorable to raise right now? Yeah. So I’m just as bad as you think I am I guess.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  30. “Are you addressing someone standing behind me? Because I didn’t say anything about leftists.”

    – Gabriel Hanna

    It is possible that Davethulhu is, in fact, talking to someone other than you. In fact, the barest inquiry would reveal that it was Hoagie – not you! – who was worrying what leftists would say, in the comment immediately preceding yours to which Davethulhu most likely replied.

    It’s not all about you, dude.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  31. Davethulhu, you’re doing a lot of worrying about worrying.
    Did you hear the one about the two liberals who are walking down the road when they discover a man lying in a ditch who has just been beaten and robbed …
    Liberal #1 says to liberal #2, “We have to find out who did this so we can help him with his defense!” (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  32. @Leviticus: It is possible that Davethulhu is, in fact, talking to someone other than you.

    He quoted me…

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  33. @Leviticus: He quoted my #27 in his #29, and my #27 was a response to his #23.

    You may not have refreshed recently or something.

    Gabriel Hanna (64d4e1)

  34. His comment about “worrying about what leftists would say” is clearly directed at Hoagie, who was talking about just that. You didn’t say anything about leftists; Hoagie did. So Davethulhu is in fact talking to someone standing behind you (or above you, in this format). It’s Hoagie.

    Leviticus (efada1)

  35. Narciso, a quick check suggests he travelled on Delta (they have a flight from Minneapolis arriving at 1:40PM). The other airline in that terminal is Condor, which uses all three airports as well.

    I said Air Canada upthread based on info now apparently in error.

    Kishnevi (91d450)

  36. Minneapolis, hmmm…

    I’ll be watching carefully to see if this becomes something.

    Donald (bd230b)

  37. I wonder if it is constitutional for the Federal Government to prohibit bringing both a firearm and its ammunition in your checked baggage.
    They’ll probably have to continue to let you bring along the firearm, but will try to make you buy ammunition at your destination.
    These types of constitutional issues will be harder to resolve now that the worlds foremost scholar on the subject is leaving the WH.

    steveg (5508fb)

  38. A retired Ft. Lauderdale cop hit me up once in Talkeetna. She must have
    weighed 300lbs. I politely said no and retired for the evening.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  39. And there was a weatherman in anchorage who was an awlaki fan.

    narciso (d1f714)

  40. there was a dead waterbug under my sink

    that’s a chicago thing

    I’m leaving it there for so the exterminator can see

    it’s a job satisfaction thing for him

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  41. You think the guy in groundhog day was bad.

    narciso (d1f714)

  42. So why did he go to ft Lauderdale was it a connecting flight, where did he get the money, he had been fired from his security job. Who else was he in contact in anchorAge of south Florida?

    narciso (d1f714)

  43. Barack told George Stephanopolous that he’s “heartbroken” about what happened in Ft Lauderdale.

    Whenever it’s a jihadist terrorist who hurts Americans on our home soil, Barack emotes that he’s “sad” or “heartbroken.” He also warns against jumping to conclusions about motive. It’s all kind of a passive detached response that the typical person has when the stranger sitting next to them on the airplane reveals they’re heading to Kansas City for their Grandmother’s funeral. (Oh, your Grandmother passed — I’m sorry to hear that.)

    Yet when it’s a white cop who has shot a black guy or a white kid with mental issues (Sandy Hook, Dylann Roof, etc) has shot up a movie theatre, school, or church meeting, then Barack emotes anger and rage, attributes nuanced motives to the perpetrator within five minutes, and says we can’t wait any longer to solve this issue of violence in America. Congress must act! White people shouldn’t be allowed to own guns! (LOL)

    Cruz Supporter (102c9a)

  44. Dammit, I’m serious! I demand safe spaces.

    When I go to Alaska to kill things.

    Steve57 (0b1dac)

  45. The drum beats for increased gun control can be heard in the distance. The idea is that the government will protect us if we just disarm ourselves. Or if we will form a long line off airport property to be pre-screened. This is the same government that had the FBI interview this guy in November, after he came forward with concerns that might do something just like this. And they dropped the ball.

    But then again, the FBI agents are all armed, the likelihood they will be a victim is very small. And they will never be held accountable for their decisions, their actions, and their failure to take action. The entire weight of their incompetence is off-loaded onto those they are supposed to protect.

    So each failure results in more draconian measures to weaken and enslave the population. If this trend continues, some years from now we could well be required to wear hospital gowns to the airport. This would facilitate both the pat down and the cavity search.

    BobStewartatHome (c24491)

  46. Take a look at the shooter’s booking photo here. He looks quite different and presents a much different affect from the photo we were shown of him yesterday in news reports.

    http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/01/07/18/3BEBEA0700000578-4096812-image-m-19_1483812213329.jpg

    elissa (377b6d)

  47. Turn in your guns. The government will protect you. Oddly, it’s the same government who can’t protect us now while we are armed will somehow miraculously be able to do so if we’re not.

    http://joelsgulch.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/turn-in-your-weapons.jpg

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  48. He looks like Raul Julia. Just think, if he had made some different life choices, instead of joining the National Guard, he could have joined the Latin Kings, and got arrested for gunning down some Gangster Disciples in a drive-by at 111th and Wentworth.

    By and large, people who are not quick to look for “motive” are right. They know their lowlifes.
    Some people are just born to hang, and we don’t know it until they do a lot of harm to other people. They’re just plain bad, and if they don’t kill for one reason they’ll kill for some other.

    nk (dbc370)

  49. he’s a banality

    sick of looking at his insipid sick-in-the-head face

    this kind of trash is what frau merkel opened the floodgates for?

    stupid woman

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  50. He’s a Puerto Rican born in New Jersey, happyfeet.

    Not all that long ago, another “Hispanic” who looks like him only a little fatter, fired eight shots from the alley corner of that Thai restaurant where we had dinner into the tavern across the street, killing one man. Then he went around bragging about it. Why? Cause he’s a lowlife.

    nk (dbc370)

  51. right right but if he migratered to germany he’d just be another damn foreigner

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  52. You’re right, nk. Coming from Philly I’m used to low life scum like you are. We city guys grew up with it and when you say they’d shoot you for any reason you’re on the nose. Or no reason at all. These types have had all the humanity and responsibility bred out of them by generations of government largess, blame passing and broken families. I’m not sure there is a way to reach them any more. It’s sad really. They are no more use to society than a snowflake with a degree in modern dance. And just as the snowflake is lethal to the body politic, the society and the American culture, the inner city mentality is lethal to life itself.

    Rev. Hoagie® (785e38)

  53. nk, I don’t know if this is the case today, but a number of European jihadists have been second generation muslim immigrants who, prior to their attacks, spent their time dealing drugs and committing other crimes in the black market and the ghettos they have created for themselves. They appear to have been pressured into jihad by “good muslims” who may have appealed to some innate religiosity, or perhaps with simple threats of exposure to the authorities. The ISIS gang is probably fairly well known within these ghettos and it is no doubt regarded with some fear by members of smaller gangs. So simple coercion is another possibility. These factors go above and beyond the criminality that Chicago’s commitment to Social Justice has fostered.

    BobStewartatHome (c24491)

  54. To NK: Brudders? I would have thought 111th and Wentworth was a bit N and W of Kensington, but I shall defer.

    Not mad at you Happyfeet, in fact it calls to mind the joke I made about Mitt Romney serving as ambassador to France and riding his bike into the Puerto Rican neighborhoods, which one commenter took offense to because of it came off as mocking LDS.

    urbanleftbehind (847a06)

  55. Yup, Brudders.

    nk (dbc370)

  56. Am I the only one who’s concerned about the total incompetence displayed bythe TSA in this incident?

    I’m not talking about the shooting ( that was unforeseeable, and not their fault), I’m referring to the aftermath. They knew there was a single nutcase within an hour or two, yet they kept the airport closed, shut-down, locked-up for FOURTEEN HOURS! No one in charge could make a decision in 12 hours. Are they all mentally challenged? Is the TSA management cumulative IQ in soccer game territory?

    This is another illustration of their tits-on-a-bull usefulness.

    bud (b35e4c)

  57. honestly i’m kinda not a big LDS fan after the slurpy egg mcmuffin/utah vote thing

    it mirrors my newfound disdain of the pope, which was never a bugaboo of mine until we got Pope Third Whirl Idiot Douchebag

    i was willing to overlook the silliness of the painfully bad writing in the book of mormon cause of how every goddamn mormon I’ve ever met is super-sweet and possessed of a robust appetite for tasty foozles

    but now I think they kinda have their own ex-cia-poofter ex-sacky slurpy egg mcmuffin/pervy mitt romney agenda

    to say nothing of creepy slicked-up deviants like Harry Reid and Jeff Flake

    and me I’m backing away slowly

    happyfeet (28a91b)

  58. 57. bud (b35e4c) — 1/7/2017 @ 1:20 pm

    Am I the only one who’s concerned about the total incompetence displayed bythe TSA in this incident?

    I’m not talking about the shooting ( that was unforeseeable, and not their fault), I’m referring to the aftermath. They knew there was a single nutcase within an hour or two, yet they kept the airport closed, shut-down, locked-up for FOURTEEN HOURS! No one in charge could make a decision in 12 hours. Are they all mentally challenged? Is the TSA management cumulative IQ in soccer game territory?

    The short is: Yes.

    What this shows you is that making a lot of Type II errors (detecting something – or the possibility of something – that is not present) because you are going to very great lengths to avoid Type I errors (failing to detect something that is present) does not prevent you from making Type I errors.

    If you are stupid, or acting stupidly, you’ll make both of them.

    Sammy Finkelman (6c2cdd)

  59. I see that nobody has updated this post with information that came out later.

    Esteban Santiago was born in New Jersey, but his family moved (back?) to Puerto Rico when he was two years old, and he grew up in the city of Peñuelas, which has about 20,000 people (or it had reached that approximate population before the current Puerto Rican depression) and is located on the southern coast of Puerto Rico, west of Ponce, and east of Guayanilla. He is 26 years old now, which should mean he was born in 1990.

    Esteban Santiago was not just in the Alaska Army National Guard but had been in the Puerto Rico National Guard and the Army Reserve and spent either one or two years in Iraq. He joined the Puerto Rico National Guard in December, 2007, (age 17) and was deployed to Iraq in the 130th Engineer Battalion which spent a year clearing roads of IUD’s and maintaining bridges. Two soldiers from the unit were killed in insuregent attacks (pr maybe byy IUD’s?) during the tour, but he was never in combat. At a later point he was in the Army Reserve. He moved to Alaska about two years ago, possibly because of the depression. He joined the Alaska Army National Guard in November, 2014, where he was a combat engineer, private First class, (E3) but was demoted and given a general discharge in August, 2016 for unsatisfactory performance (mainly going AWOL, presumably not showing up for some weekends – his obligations were one weekend a month plus 15 days of training a year)

    This was a month before he became a father, and there is a picture of him with his son from around when he was born. He received a number of commendations during his service, including a Meritorious Unit Citation, the Iraq Campaign medal, the Global War on Terrorism Service Medal, and the Army Good Conduct Medal.

    After he came back from Iraq or Afghanistan he started to see visions, but was never violent. Well, he was a little violent with his girlfriend. He forced his way into a bathroom in his girlfriend’s Anchorage home in or shortly before January, 2016, when he strangled her and smacked her on the top of her head. He was released on condition that he stay away from her apparently but officers found him a month later at the home. According to his brother, Bryan, in Puerto Rico, he was also “fighting with a lot of people.” He had a job with a security company.

    He also had some traffic violations, like driving without insurance and having a broken taillight in April, 2015. In February, 2015, his landlord in Alaska had filed eviction proceedings against him, stating that he had failed to pay his rent. And, according to law enforcement sources who spoke to CBS, back in either 2011 or 2012, which would be back in Puerto Rico, he was caught up in some kind of child porn investigation and a computer and three weapons were taken from him, but no charges were filed.

    He told the FBI in Anchorage, Alaska in November, that he thought the CIA {Why is it always the CIA?) was causing him to hear voices telling him to watch terrorist videos and join ISIS. He was very agitated and somewhat incoherent. He stated he did not wish to harm anyone. They reviewed databases, checked what other agencies had, and interviewed his family members, and saw he had no actual terrorist connections that they could see, and concluded he was no danger and closed the investigation. They had turned him over to local authorities, who took him to a medical facility, which released him after four days in the hospital. He had checked his gun before entering the FBI office. Sometime later he got his gun back. His girlfriend recently alerted his family in Puerto Rico about him receiving psychological treatment, but he never told them himself. He hadn’t talked with his brother for the past three weeks, which was an unusual length of time for them to go without contact.

    [They should have subjected him to an MRI or PET scan and then they probably would have found evidence of the hallucinations. This is something like epilepsy, and also dreams breaking into the time when someone is swake, and might be caused by taking some drugs like LSD. But he wasn’t told that, and the people who took care of his medical treatment probably are not too much into seeing physical causes for something like this, let alone figuring out a treatment, and the only thing they have is probably something that tamps down all brain activity. I see elements of Tourette’s syndrome here, too, where somebody has urges to say what is the most wrong thing – and there couldn’t be something much wronger for an Iraq war veteran than joining the terrorists he had been working against and gotten medals for.]

    On Thursday, January 5, 2016, at 9:49 pm (Alaska time?) he boarded Delta Flight 1088 from Achorage Alaska to Minneapolis-St. Paul, Minnesota. He had no luggage with him except a gun case, at least no checked luggage, and a one-way ticket. To carry a gun on board alll he needed was a legal gun permit, a locked gun carrier – locked with a lock that could not be easily picked, and a carrier that was not flimsy – not a cardboard box, in other words, and to declare it. He knew all the rules.

    The plane landed in Minneapolis-St Paul at 6:02 am Friday (Central time?) and he transferred to Delta Flight 1211 to Fort Lauderdale Florida, which took off at 7:25 a.m. It landed in Ft. Lauderdale at 12:11 p.m. He argued with someone on the plane about something, according to CBS-TV in Miami.

    Here we have a loophole in security. Nobody is watching anybody in the baggage claim area. Everythig coming off the plane, of course, already passed security.

    Shots were reported near the baggage claim area of Terminal 2 at 12:55 pm. First reports said he was taken into custody at 1:00 to 1:05 p.m. so that it could have lasted 5 to 10 minutes, but the latest are that it was over after 70 to 80 seconds.

    Duruing this one minute and 20 seconds or less, he emptied one round and then probably a second one. There are some contradictions in the story of what he did, but he evidently wasn’t chased by anyone, but left and returned. Many of the bullets were fired directly into people’s heads. He didn’t say a word, except possibly “I’m not Jewish,” and that source doesn’t give the tone in which he said it. He might have been responding to one of the voices he heard. When he stopped, or one he saw a deputy sheriff, he tossed away his gun, and laid down on he floor spread-eagled. He knew exactly how to surrender, probably from his army training. He killed five people and seriously wounded eight. One person was aved by a Apple computer on his back, which took a bullet. A geat grandmother from Atlanta who was there to celebrate her husband’s 90th birthday was killed, as well as a 62-year old volunteer for a fire department in Virginia. Many people ran, and a number of other people dropped to the ground with the idea of protecting themselves.

    Security at the airport went crazy including issuing a false alarm around 2:30 pm (it was tweeted by the TSA) after people were on the tarmec and not letting people leave the airport till they passed all kinds of screening. One family was able to leave after only 3 hours, on the grounds that a 57-year women needed to get an insulin injection. People in planes were told to stay there, and flights headed to Fort Lauderdale were doverted or delayed. Cops had also told people to abandon their baggage and leave, and now there are 20,000 pieces of baggae that need to be re-united with ther owners, although maybe some of that has to do with the bad weather outside of Florida.

    The killer is reported to be still co-operating with police, and late Saturday, federal charges were filed against him, which could carry the death penalty.

    And, he may have discovered that his voices probably didn’t go away, so he didn’t get what he wanted.

    Sammy Finkelman (6c2cdd)


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