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6/20/2014

The Administration Makes Moves To Deter More Minors From Illegally Crossing Into The U.S.

Filed under: General — Dana @ 11:02 am

[guest post by Dana]

President Obama stated in a phone conversation yesterday with Mexico’s President Enrique Peña Nieto that illegal aliens currently pouring across the border will not be able to remain in the US, and that includes the children.

He also clarified that those crossing into the U.S. illegally won’t qualify for legalized status or deferred deportation, including children.

Further, the two discussed a strategy of how to deal with so many unaccompanied minors coming across our border.

There are now close to 50,000 unaccompanied minors in US detention centers. Their impending deportations raises several questions: Will there be family members to receive them? Will their home countries accept them back? And exactly how will this mass deportation take place? The administration has not yet offered any particulars.

In the meantime, House Speaker John Boehner has requested that President Obama send the National Guard to the U.S.-Mexico border in order to relieve the U.S. Border Patrol as it deals with the enormous influx of children and families.

Our country is facing a national security and humanitarian crisis along our southern border.

The policies of your administration have directly resulted in the belief by these immigrants that once they reach U.S. soil, they will be able to stay here indefinitely.

There are several steps that we call on you and your administration to take immediately to enforce our laws, stem the tide of migrants, protect the victims, and ensure that these individuals are dealt with in a humane manner that is consistent with American ideals of compassion and family unity.

Further,

Boehner said in addition to deploying the National Guard, the administration should arrange for “apprehended migrants” to be “promptly returned” to their home countries; and he wants additional personnel sent to assist in their removal.

“The safety of these migrant children is a matter of paramount importance,” Boehner said. “It is our duty and obligation to enforce the laws of our country while protecting the most vulnerable and ensuring they are healthy and well protected.”

Boehner said the Homeland Security Department “must find a way to ensure that apprehended adults and their family members do in fact appear for their deportation hearings.”

This week, in hopes of stemming the flood of illegal minors crossing the border,Vice President Joe Biden was dispatched to Central America to warn the region of the dangers faced by children on such a trip and announcing that families will now be detained at the border instead of releasing them on their own recognizance.

Guatemalan Foreign Minister Fernando Carrera told The Associated Press that his country would ask Biden for temporary work permits and a grant of “temporary protected status” for Guatemalan migrants. That status prevents migrants from being detained or deported due to the dangers of returning to their country.

The Obama administration has repeatedly rejected granting Central Americans such a blanket status, despite levels of homicide, extortion, rape and gang recruitment that have risen to epidemic levels in Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador in recent years.

No comment yet from administration officials regarding the decision made by Texas lawmakers this week to proceed with a border surge.

–Dana

UPDATE: The Washington Times is now reporting that, in a blow to the administration, the residents of Lawrenceville, Virginia have successfully rebuffed attempts by HHS to convince the town to house 500 older youths at a recently closed college in their town. Over 1,000 residents voiced their opposition at a town hall meeting.

(This comes on the heels of Baltimore’s Democratic mayor and two Democratic senators objecting to plans to house some of the new arrivals of children at an empty office complex in Baltimore.)

According to the report from Lawrenceville:

HHS officials struggled to persuade a crowd of angry residents that the bringing the children to Lawrenceville would create jobs, boost the economy and provide a desperately needed humanitarian service.

The community remained unpersuaded.

31 Responses to “The Administration Makes Moves To Deter More Minors From Illegally Crossing Into The U.S.”

  1. Easy enough to make Mexico help us keep out Central Americans — we institute a “diversity” policy. Non-Mexicans go to the front of line for work permits and temporary visas, ahead of Mexicans since we have more than our quota of them. It will be a credible threat, too. America is all about diversity and inclusion these days.

    nk (dbc370)

  2. Small steps, but probably good ones.

    I did not expect this.

    Ibidem (34e45a)

  3. President Obama stated in a phone conversation yesterday with Mexico’s President Enrique Peña Nieto that illegal aliens currently pouring across the border will not be able to remain in the US, and that includes the children.

    He also clarified that those crossing into the U.S. illegally won’t qualify for legalized status or deferred deportation, including children.

    Well, that’s what he says today.

    In reality, they have the right to petition for asylum, and the hearing dates are now running one year in advance. And they’ll stretch further ahead, as this goes on.

    All that that means is that Obama – right now – does not intend to legalize them en masse.

    FURTHERMORE, THIS ONLY APPLIES TO MEXICO.

    Mexicans can be offered the possibility of just going back across the border.

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)

  4. as if anyone believes this lying POS will actually do what he says…

    the only time he hasn’t lied, that i am aware of, was when he said he wanted to fundamentally change the US.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  5. The children are needed to pay for my social security also their are a lot of childless couples who want kids. We voted him in you didn’t. we want president obama to grant amnesty for all the children now!

    vota (56083b)

  6. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/19/obama-tells-mexico-illegal-immigrant-children-wont/#ixzz35DCFZWOI

    President Obama told his Mexican counterpart in a phone call Thursday that immigrants crossing into the U.S. illegally won’t qualify for legalized status or deferred deportation, including children.

    The White House said Mr. Obama and Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto discussed “a regional strategy” to address the surge of unaccompanied children coming from Central America, through Mexico, to the U.S.

    With thousands of children trying to enter the U.S. illegally in recent months, Vice President Joseph R. Biden will visit Guatemala on Friday.

    Mr. Biden will warn officials and parents that illegal immigration is dangerous and that youth won’t be allowed to stay in the U.S.

    Maybe President Obama is hoping some children get killed going through Mexico.

    Does it sound that way to other people?

    Sammy Finkelman (966b43)

  7. If they are not killed, or nearly killed, what Biden is saying won’t work.

    Sammy Finkelman (966b43)

  8. food stamp just needs to kick the can til after midterms

    that’s all this is

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  9. and Boehnerpoofter is very very cognizant that if we deport even a handful of this latest crop of urchins, the hordes and hordes – of urchins and adults both – already here get to stay

    … overton windows being what they are and all

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  10. Perry #5,

    Are you enjoying your residency at the Delaware Home for the Aged ?
    I hear they have a top-notch shuffleboard court, and an on-staff nurse to dispense medications (as well as Kool-Aid !) to all you retired liberals there in the mid-atlantic.

    It’s a shame that you spend your retirement years advocating for more welfare. That’s not really the American spirit. But then again, you hate America.

    Elephant Stone (5c2aa0)

  11. riiiight… Obama puts things in place to start the ball rolling all in a plan to overwhelm the system and then wants to put a halt to it. What a crock of horsesh*t.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. I’ve updated the post. Towns and cities being designated as potential sites for sheltering the new wave of immigrants are refusing to cooperate with the administration.

    Dana (fe2228)

  13. Sammy@6,7: ISTR seeing a few reports of kids having been killed on the way already: no need to posit someone hoping something bad happens when it already is happening.

    Have a hard time thinking Biden will be taken seriously, though.

    Ibidem (34e45a)

  14. A Virginia congressman is asking the secretary of Health and Human Services to abandon a much-criticized plan to bring hundreds of Central American children to a rural region of the state.

    The call by Republican U.S. Rep. Robert Hurt followed a meeting in Lawrenceville late Thursday at which federal officials apologized for missteps on the proposed temporary shelter amid a torrent of criticism by local residents.

    While representatives of federal agencies said they would heed the wishes of Lawrenceville and Brunswick County, they declined to respond to questions from The Associated Press on whether they would withdraw plan.

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  15. Happyfeet, see the update in post.

    Dana (fe2228)

  16. it’s no accident food stamp is sending the urchins into red districts is it

    Nope.

    It’s like how China moved all those people into Tibet.

    Fascism 101.

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  17. No, it’s not a surprise. They were counting on some slow-witted hicks to not grasp what was really happening. So, if the selected sites consistently refuse to house the illegals, what options are left for the administration?

    Dana (fe2228)

  18. i saw Dana that’s what made me ask the googles

    the AP says the decision isn’t necessarily final and the W Times is vague on what Hurt learned with respect to the HHS backing down

    but I loved this from the Times

    “We talk slow around here and with a twang. But we say what we mean,” Aaron Smith, a sergeant in the National Guard and former Marine, told administration officials at the meeting. “Let me talk straight into your eyes: We don’t want you here.

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  19. 14. Ibidem (34e45a) — 6/20/2014 @ 3:07 pm

    Sammy@6,7: ISTR seeing a few reports of kids having been killed on the way already: no need to posit someone hoping something bad happens when it already is happening.

    But clearly, not enough people are being killed, or it is not publicized enough.

    If this is the strategy, do you want fewer or more children killed or dying from accidents along the way?

    And what would be the consequences of pressuring the governments of Mexico, Guatemala, andHonduras to crack down?

    More deaths or fewer?

    Sammy Finkelman (966b43)

  20. Well, apparently we’ve moved on a bit since the Clinton administration, when Deval Patrick would have tried to prosecute every person who showed up at that Lawrenceville meeting. Now they’ll probably just all get audited.

    Milhouse (b95258)

  21. someone should make Aaron Smith a huge batch of crunchy golden fishsticks I think

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  22. Say fishsticks three times fast, feets… I dare ya… in fact, I double dare ya!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  23. i don’t get it

    i can say it a whole bunch

    i hope nobody can hear me outside

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  24. Hold them at GITMO until their asylum hearing dates, and then hold the hearings there.
    Asylum denied: Fly them to the capitol city of their home country by military transport.

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  25. @Sammy: I’m inclined to think that the govt. thinks the dangers are not publicized enough, rather than that the dangers ought to be greater.

    And that they are convinced that Central America cracking down will result in fewer deaths.

    Of course, liberal expectations are frequently not related to reality; I have no idea whether (a) Biden will be convincing, nor if (b) any government crackdowns will reduce the death toll.

    I’m not arguing that it will work; only that it isn’t necessarily cynical.

    Ibidem (34e45a)

  26. I thought they were blaming the influx of youth on the drug lords.

    JD (9fd0e3)

  27. We don’t believe you, Barry. No one believes you.

    h/t Paul Ryan

    creeper (7c28f1)

  28. The only photos I’ve seen of the facilities for these UACs (UnAcommpanied Children) are holding tanks on the border (very bad), and one shot of beds in a barracks-like situation. And these were smuggled out to a Democrat Congressman whose ultimate role in this fiasco is yet to be determined. I was puzzled about the rules that the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) placed on Congressmen who were invited to visit one of the facilities … no recording devices, no questions, posed photos to be given to the Congressmen after they’ve completed the tour. Basically, they have been invited to provide some eye-candy so that the administration can pretend to be responding to Congressional concern. And the participating Congressmen can pretend to be concerned. Is Congress so toothless? I seem to remember a fellow named Truman who spent some time on his first trip to D. C. photographing and documenting contractor abuses in 1941. No one told him he couldn’t photograph barracks being built at military bases. But today, we can apparently prevent Congressmen from taking photos of occupied barracks. Times change.

    Not being a lawyer, I wonder how HHS can do this? Or asking a question of those being held, etc. It appears that the UACs are being warehoused in military bases and their care and feeding are being provided by non-profit organizations working as government contractors. So the civilain guards at the military base can enforce security. But instead of protecting national secrets, this security is employed soley to keep the American public from seeing what’s going on simply to avoid political embarrassment. But aren’t the UAC’s and their caretakers more of a threat to national security than a Congressperson?

    Here are some links providing more details.

    USAtoday migrant-children-housing-conditions

    DailyCaller leaked-docs-heres-what-dhs-is-doing-with-all-those-illegal-immigrant-children

    The DC article includes information on the cooperation between DHS, FEMA, and HHS.

    HteWon is demonstrating a degree of cunning and ruthlessness that is surprising. Encourage 300+ kids a day to sneak into Texas (they catch between 200 and 250 a day, and some surely escape detection) and you create another problem that can’t be handled by normal means. Prevent the public from learning about this until the scale of the problem “requires” new Federal powers, and we take another step down the path to serfdom.

    In China, if the same thing happened, they would simply treat the UACs as organ donors, and the problem would solve itself.

    bobathome (5ccbd8)

  29. I thought they were blaming the influx of youth on the drug lords.

    That was just the excuse du jour. As soon as that reason is debunked, there’ll be another equally inane excuse. They seem to have an endless supply.

    Hadoop (f7d5ba)

  30. They were hiding this for some time (hoping it would go away?)

    Sammy Finkelman (d22d64)


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