Patterico's Pontifications

4/30/2014

Militia Setting Up Checkpoints Outside Bundy Ranch

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:39 am

Tension:

A Democratic congressman from Nevada said in a letter this week that his constituents have reported the armed militia supporting rancher Cliven Bundy have set up checkpoints to verify the residency of anybody passing through.

Rep. Steven Horsford (D-NV), who represents the area, sent the letter Sunday to Clark County Sheriff Doug Gillespie, asking him to investigate.

Hey. If y’all are going to call out the militia, there might be better causes. Is all I’m saying.

In fact, I’m sure of it.

UPDATE: To make my point perfectly clear, should I list some of those causes?

Nah. I’ll leave it to your imagination.

109 Responses to “Militia Setting Up Checkpoints Outside Bundy Ranch”

  1. Wow!

    nk (dbc370)

  2. And you believe Horsford why exactly, what is this groundhog daY?

    narciso (c552e4)

  3. What, no hat tip? :)

    carlitos (e7c734)

  4. “there might be better causes”

    Better than Western state Federal siezures? Control points of water rights. Snail Darter refuges. Solar bird barbeques. Million dollar Quixote memorials.

    Rural locales are obligatory, no urban issues need apply.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  5. Note to Federal cheerleaders. Your team is Dogmeat.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  6. R.I.P. Bob Hoskins

    Icy (d439b1)

  7. GDP for our weather-challenged economy is at 0.1% inadequately adjusted for faux inflation.

    The Chinese yuan is, alone among major currencies, falling faster in value than the dollar. IOW, those jobs lost are not coming back.

    Per capita income in the US and spending is falling in real terms at 1% per year over the past 5 years. IOW the Amerikkkan consumer engine of Global Depression is dead in the middle of the road.

    Federal Reserve taper is on autopilot.

    QED, the grease on the skids of Federal kickback tranquility will not be refreshed in the foreseeable future.

    DOOM.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  8. Those unfamiliar might like to reference the facts in the case.

    carlitos (e7c734)

  9. Too dangerous for armed battle:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2014/04/29/HuffPo-Weakening-the-NYPD-is-a-Good-Idea

    LA, Chiraq, NYC, you are on your own, Darwin will not be mocked.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  10. I’d just like to hear from the legal weetards from which corner of our dystopia they expect relief to arise.

    Case in point, it is acknowledged that Obamaneycare is a Trojan Horse and the best we can hope for at this point is that some of its more deleterious features will never be implemented or mitigated by further legislated ineptitude.

    I defy any critic of insurrection to identify a single, solitary positive development arising in DC unalloyed with the seeds of decline.

    Can the Visigoths arrest our certain demise? Can the Gauls decapitate our oppressors?

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  11. Post them outside Staples Center to keep teh racisty racists out!

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  12. CNN lovelies are currently wearing sh!teating grins discussing Hilarity abusing Jeb in an ABC/WaPo 56-37%(or about), and similarly beating Rand, Huckster, or Master Ryan.

    Keep your ballot box resort to yourselves, losers.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  13. The list of facts presented by WaPo don’t go back far enough. There’s an earlier history concerning just how this particular part of southern Nevada came into being. Note that it had nothing to do with the political agreement concerning the state of Nevada and U.S. government lands at the time of statehood. The land in question was ceded to the state of Nevada after Nevada became a state. This is what Cliven Bundy is basing his argument upon. Any claim to controlling the land by the feds can only be based on administration – not ownership.

    On May 5, 1866, the United States Congress approved legislation transferring the portions of [Arizona's]Pah-Ute and Mohave counties west of the Colorado River and west of 114 degrees west longitude to the state of Nevada. The assignment took effect on January 18, 1867.[4] The Arizona Territory lodged multiple protests with Congress and attempted for several years to have the transfer reversed, but was unable to overturn the change of possession.

    PPs43 (6fdef4)

  14. What about militias burning the visible edifice of Green Shoots corruptocracy to the ground?

    $120 Billion in taxpayer monies laundered and passed back to bundlers and the DNC represented by 10 percent in idle amortization.

    Why, for example, should patriots give evidence to our unhappiness with overt illegal destruction of property? Why should they give up their freedom in a manner which we might approve?

    Who actually cares what we think? We don’t even have the balls to present reasoned argument. We merely cast aspersions, ‘Cheerleaders of Insurrection’, useless cowards that we are.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  15. The link to Patterico.com “ignore script” is dead. Does anyone still have this code? I haven’t used it since 2 computers ago.

    carlitos (e7c734)

  16. How about chemical lobotomy for those convicted of thought crime, or a sin of omission like failing to address our representative as ‘the Honorable’?

    And the creation amongst our fellow citizens of unhappiness in their blithe pursuit of same, like putative inequality of experiential results?

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  17. Thomas Jefferson “The tree of Liberty must, from time to time, be watered with the blood of patriots”.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  18. Okay, so I learn that this BLM Protest thing goes back even further than Nevada history, albeit with different nomenclature, but modern conservatives take note; the Sagebrush Rebellion is in our political blood.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/28/Bundy-Ranch-and-the-Whisky-Rebellion

    PPs43 (6fdef4)

  19. No mas ahorita.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  20. “The three of liberty, must from time to time, be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” It is its natural manure.

    mg (31009b)

  21. What, all of Bundy’s complaints with respect to the feds squeezing people off the land to void prior agreements are invalidated because some reporter got Bundy to state provincial beliefs out of the urban mainstream?

    Kevin M (b357ee)

  22. I thought the government gave the cattle back.

    Also, a good piece on the government’s history of strong arm tactics.

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/29/The-Long-History-Of-BLM-s-Aggressive-Cattle-Seizures

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  23. Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 4/30/2014 @ 9:26 am

    Or the effrontery of calling Barbara Bouncer ‘Mam’.

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  24. A disquieting note:

    There were reports of checkpoints being established within the town of Bunkerville, and people being stopped going to and from church services – I’m sure the checkpoints were being manned by atheists.

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  25. “I’m sure the checkpoints were being manned by atheists.”

    askeptic – Prolly damned soulless atheists at that.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  26. carlitos@9:17 – The Greasemonkey script site, userscripts.org, seems to be having a bad day.

    PCachu (e072b7)

  27. daley: Nothing but the finest.

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  28. 25. “I’m sure the checkpoints were being manned by atheists.”

    askeptic – Prolly damned soulless atheists at that.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/30/2014 @ 12:02 pm

    Are there any other kind?

    Steve57 (525198)

  29. Dragging the cat off the shake roof by the tail since, what? 1973?

    I am bemused by the idea that the undergrads at Hahhhvaahhd have unlocked the racist key that keeps me goiing.

    Steve57 (525198)

  30. sounds like some good fun
    man teh checkpoint, hit buffet
    where do I sign up?

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  31. How is the X1/9 doing?

    Steve57 (525198)

  32. We shouldn’t worry about the illegal invasion of our border, including by drug cartels and terrorists.
    Rather, we need to stop hungry cattle from eating grass in Nevada.

    Priorities, bitches !
    Facts !!!!!!!!!1!!1!!!1!!!
    Or whatever.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  33. “Are there any other kind?”

    Steve57 – Not according to Gil, but I have no professed expertise on the subject.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  34. X1/9?
    Are there any that haven’t rusted away?

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  35. 18. Thanks for the links.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  36. 29. Did not know Dyer was a lady. Formidable intellect without gaudiness.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  37. 33. “Are there any other kind?”

    Steve57 – Not according to Gil, but I have no professed expertise on the subject.

    Comment by daleyrocks (bf33e9) — 4/30/2014 @ 5:43 pm

    Every Sunday when I toss a twenty in the collection box, I don’t claim it on my taxes.

    I guess I’m not an expert, neither.

    Steve57 (525198)

  38. We were still on the subject of generosity?

    Steve57 (525198)

  39. 34. X1/9?
    Are there any that haven’t rusted away?

    Comment by askeptic (8ecc78) — 4/30/2014 @ 5:59 pm

    Apparently not.

    http://uploads.petrolicious.com/578-81×19!.jpg

    Steve57 (525198)

  40. Yeah. I already know. My Fiat X1/9 link already isn’t working. Which when you think about it is kind of fitting.

    Steve57 (525198)

  41. Taken down to protect the new Chrysler small-car design.

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  42. The ’81 X is fine (replaced the fuel pump) and the ’76 (my younger son’s first car) needs brakes but otherwise is in fine shape. To answer askeptic, we have two at my house. Truth be told, Xs rusted no worse than ’73 thru ’79 Hondas. California cars are the best to get if/when in the market. Thx for asking.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  43. Oh, well then.

    As long as it’s for a good cause.

    Steve57 (525198)

  44. About those 8 million ACA signees:

    As of April 15, 2014, insurers informed the[ House Energy and Commerce ]committee that only 2.45 million had paid their first month’s premium for coverage obtained through the federally facilitated marketplace.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  45. Most guys that either owned them back in the day and/or currently own one are true cognoscenti… They know how much fun they are.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  46. Lol I had mine posted on Petrolicious a few months back.

    Colonel Haiku (2601c0)

  47. Good to hear, Coronello. Nice to hear somebody is keeping works of the house of Bertone in fine fiddle.

    Steve57 (525198)

  48. Al Qaeda on the run:

    The State Department counted 9,707 terrorist attacks around the world in 2013, resulting in more than 17,800 deaths and more than 32,500 injuries. Most of those occurred in Afghanistan, India, Iraq, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Philippines, Somalia, Syria, Thailand and Yemen. In 2012, the figures were 6,771 terrorist attacks, with more than 11,000 deaths and more than 21,600 injuries. Most of those where in the same 10 countries as in 2013.

    h/t Pam Gellar

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  49. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ3zZ-aWi6U

    Blues Brothers – it’s dark and we’re wearing sunglasses

    The first fifteen or twenty times it’s amusing.

    Steve57 (525198)

  50. To save on dear reader’s eyes just five signs we are in a slow down:

    #1 The homeownership rate in the United States has dropped to the lowest level in 19 years.

    #2 Consumer spending for durable goods has dropped by 3.23 percent since November. This is a clear sign that an economic slowdown is ahead.

    #3 Major retailers are closing stores at the fastest pace that we have seen since the collapse of Lehman Brothers.

    #4 According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 20 percent of all families in the United States do not have a single member that is employed. That means that one out of every five families in the entire country is completely unemployed.

    #5 There are 1.3 million fewer jobs in the U.S. economy than when the last recession began in December 2007. Meanwhile, our population has continued to grow steadily since that time.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  51. Mind if I blaspheme for a bit, Coronello. Or as you are known amongst the conquistadors, Il Capitano di Vascello.

    I’m sort of tired of the whole “classic” thing. I realized this when I was looking at a 409 Bel Air 4 speed. And it hit me. In terms of disc brakes, air conditioning, and potential horse power I’d be better off buying a police surplus Crown Vic.

    I haven’t been the same since.

    Mebbe I’ll build the ’71 El Camino anyway. It’s cheap. It’s available. I’m a Navy guy. What’s not to like?

    Steve57 (525198)

  52. Via Powerline:

    <blockquoteThe U.S. sanctions strategy is therefore not designed to change Russian policies; it is designed to make it look like the United States is trying to change Russian policy. And it is aimed at those in Congress who have made this a major issue and at those parts of the State Department that want to orient U.S. national security policy around the issue of human rights. Both can be told that something is being done — and both can pretend that something is being done — when in fact nothing can be done. In a world clamoring for action, prudent leaders sometimes prefer the appearance of doing something to actually doing something.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  53. Early ’70s GM had the world beat to hell in vent window technology. I will give them that.

    Steve57 (525198)

  54. militias are the new US Armed Forces I think

    a place where people can go to serve their nation with honor

    go militias!

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  55. Horsford is probably lying. If he’s telling the truth, these guys are violating the Anti-Ku Klu Klan Act (Civil Rights Act of 1871) which has never been repealed and their behinds are lawns.

    nk (9faaca)

  56. 57. It’s fairly easy to pick out the G-men. Fat-azzed mediocrities dressed in ill-fitting khakis driving brown SUVs.

    Let the air out of their tires while they’re emptying Dunkin Donuts.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  57. I could be wrong about that law but I wanted to compare these guys to the Ku Klu Klan. I would have said Brownshirts but I’ve been upsetting Godwin a lot lately.

    nk (9faaca)

  58. How you gonna deal with the new plastic bag ban, nk?

    elissa (712a2c)

  59. http://ssbrakes.com/

    It is tempting to continue with the ELCO.

    I’ve got the roller cam block. I’ve got the AFR heads. I have explored the mysteries of the Rochester Quadrajet. And, yeah, I have the GM performance parts manifold to go with.

    Still. I bet I could milk a thousand ponies out of the Crown Vic. And it’s not a classic. Four Recaro seats, …

    Steve57 (525198)

  60. “As of April 15, 2014, insurers informed the[ House Energy and Commerce ]committee that only 2.45 million had paid their first month’s premium for coverage obtained through the federally facilitated marketplace.”

    gary – I paid at the end of last week!

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  61. I bought the ones on amazon Mr. instapundit linked

    http://pjmedia.com/instapundit/182403/

    i bought me some and some for P and some for NG

    I think I’m the only one what uses them

    but I’m a pretty special lil guy

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  62. I haven’t given it any thought, elissa. Buy my own at Costco and keep them in the trunk of my car? We already do that, anyway, for throwing away yucky stuff.

    nk (9faaca)

  63. Its also easy to see citizens relying on going thru the motions of voting for whatever apparatchik their party is stumping is just playing doing something.

    Appearing in court to accept whatever indignity is assigned them by the State.

    Being happy with a bigger tax overpayment returned as they drop brackets.

    Filing onto the boxcars like cattle because they’re obeying authority.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  64. one thing i use the extra bags for is to double-wrap stuff what could be recycled so the trash-pickers don’t get them

    Los Angeles is infested with third world trash-pickers what paw through your trash like sub-human garbage monkeys

    I do my best to dissuade this

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  65. Tell me about it. In Chicago, now, the trash bin goes into the alley an hour before the truck comes.

    nk (9faaca)

  66. that is so not america

    it’s very very sad

    and it’s coming to a town near you very soon

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  67. 66. In ancient Israel farmers were forbidden from harvesting the corners of their fields so the gleaners could provide for themselves.

    Not that the trash monkeys aren’t double and triple dipping, with EBT cards and collecting SS disability.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  68. I don’t begrudge them, it’s that they rip open the bags and pour the trash out on the alley looking for recyclables and then leave it like that.

    nk (9faaca)

  69. 71. We have those as well, but they really are wild animals.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  70. it is left to me then to begrudge them

    and begrudge them I will with the fire of a thousand suns

    this is america

    even in latter-day food stamp sluuuuuurping ebt card america

    we don’t paw through trash

    we just don’t

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  71. you are not bitter, are you, mister feets?

    Steve57 (525198)

  72. it wasn’t supposed to be this way Mr. 57

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  73. No, Mr. Feets, it wasn’t supposed to be this way.

    Who was that curmudgeon. Popularity just isn’t what it once was. Who was the old guy from the
    Wild Bunch? Ain’t like it used to be? But it’ll do.

    Steve57 (525198)

  74. Mr. feets, it wasn’t supposed to be this way.

    But somehow, someway, I’m hotrodding the Plymouth Valiant. Even if it is utterly stupid. This I swear to you.

    Steve57 (525198)

  75. I sometimes wonder just how bad things have to become before people on the left wake up and get a clue. Quite bad, apparently.

    The following Spaniards best exemplify why the lunacy of Americans in a US city like Detroit regrettably is not unique to that place and instead is evident in folks across the globe.

    bbc.com, April 29: In the southern region of Andalusia [Spain], where official unemployment reached 37% last year, jobless people have long been learning to occupy themselves. The more cynically minded might say they are too busy working in the black economy to worry about either welfare or democracy. “The big parties are thieves because we are all thieves in Spain!” in the words of unemployed businessman Juan.

    Jose, 19 years younger, “feels like a lost person” too, in his words, but his answer is to work it out of his system. Literally to work it out, through football, running and cycling. Four years ago he was still working, doing jobs here and there in the building trade. Not entitled to unemployment benefit, he and his two unemployed brothers, all three of them bachelors, live at home and depend on their mother’s 426-euro (£350; $590) monthly pension and charity.

    “All day long I think and think, and sometimes I wonder if I shouldn’t rob a bank, maybe, or deal drugs or go burgling,” he jokes. “Maybe go to jail, get fed there, come out and get benefit?”

    As for politics, Jose has never voted in his life but may vote now for the new leftist movement Podemos.

    Jorge the gardener, 49, has 19 years to go in paying off the mortgage on his house on a hill near the village of Valencina. The divorced father of two girls, aged nine and 19, has just got his first job in four years – a single month’s work as a carpenter, which will bring him in 1,200 euros.

    Jorge will be voting in the European elections but not for one of the big parties. He will choose either the largely ex-communist United Left or Podemos.

    I was introduced to Jorge by his friend, a 52-year-old unemployed exhibition curator also called Jorge. Brimming with enthusiasm for life, the genial ex-curator has learnt to cope with joblessness by “not thinking for the future, only for today”.

    He plans to vote United Left, as he has done in the past.

    Juan, the ex-businessman who is another of his friends, may be voting for the Greens.

    Mark (59e5be)

  76. I sometimes wonder how many Evinrude engines I need to hang off my transom.

    Steve57 (525198)

  77. i’d shoot for at least five

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  78. unless Mitt Romney has five

    then I’d deploy six minimum

    Mitt never really brings it, does he?

    happyfeet (8ce051)

  79. Comment by Steve57 (525198) — 4/30/2014 @ 10:34 pm

    Edmund O’Brian!

    askeptic (8ecc78)

  80. So I’m cleared for the 2000 horsepower bass boat.

    http://www.evinrude.com/en-US/

    There is no deeper meaning. Don’t look for it.

    Steve57 (525198)

  81. 76. Chief George, the Ballad of Josey Wales, more better.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  82. One is reminded that the heros in Eastwood’s spaghetti westerns, were Quantrill Raiders, Union bigwigs like Lee Van Kleef’s character were corrupt weasels,

    narciso (3fec35)

  83. 83. A more gregarious use is towing a dozen slalom skiers.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  84. 85. More intriguing and more apt. I get that most cannot take any part of this seriously, but that doesn’t matter.

    There half to be a dozen such interplays between our failing government and the radiant adaptions of collective segments of the public to its vacating service for oppression.

    The idea that the militias somehow mimic or ape the government is more inattentive thickheadedness. They are to this point entirely non-confrontational and are de-escalating by evidencing trained competence.

    There will be no competence demonstrated by the Federal government at any point or event. They won’t see the need.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  85. The fewer interest groups on the Right than the Left give some the impression, the temptation to think unification is possible.

    It’s time, frankly, to ditch the hangers on, that have neither the discernment, education or imagination to contribute. Self-identification is simply a vanity.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  86. I’ve come around to Twain’s notion about the legislature,

    narciso (3fec35)

  87. 90. “…I never can think of Judas Iscariot without losing my temper. To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature, Congressman.”
    – “Foster’s Case,” New York Tribune, 10 March 1873

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  88. Crude oil derailment in Lynchberg VA. Will the soot carried by the prevailing Westerlies escape the EPA’s notice?

    Just kidding.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  89. “It wasn’t supposed to be like this.” HappyFeet

    No, it wasn’t. And the bewilderment evident in that comment is heartbreaking.

    creeper (c1b732)

  90. A better example of the dispute with the BLM is currently going on in Texas. There are numerous ranches/ farms that border the red river (west of the wichita falls area. The red river is the border between texas and oklahoma. As with all rivers, the course meanders, Since the river is the border between the two states, there are disputes on where the border is after each meander. Decades ago the river shifted south, creating more land in oklahoma and supposedly, less ranch land owned by the texas ranchers, subsequently the river shifted north, returning the land back to the texas ranches. Now, the BLM is claiming the land belongs to the federal government.

    Joe (debac0)

  91. 85. 83. A more gregarious use is towing a dozen slalom skiers.

    Comment by gary gulrud (e2cef3) — 5/1/2014 @ 5:49 am

    I can do that. Not just because I have a sense of social responsibility. But 2000 screaming horsepower is prolly gonna scare all the bass away anyhoo.

    Steve57 (525198)

  92. Rowdy Yates and Gil Favor were ex-Confederates, too. The episode with Stuart Whitman as an ex-Confederate now in the U.S. Army was one of the best ones. Talking to Rowdy: “This is not the Union Army. This is the Army of the United States. Your Army.”

    nk (9faaca)

  93. Now, Nathan Bedford Forrest’s men,that’s a different kettle,

    narciso (3fec35)

  94. 97. In my neck of the woods, New London, MN, there’s this youth ski group with such a tow.

    If I remember correctly four outboards on the sled.

    Unburdened the thing can do a freaking wheelie indefinitely.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  95. Vertical wheelie.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  96. Rain executed excision of FL blowing over.

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  97. So the Malaysian Official MH370 report is out. The most probable flight paths, excluding every and all remaining options, take an abrupt southerly turn from the last known heading directly over Banda Aceh radar station.

    Crickets in Indonesian have drowned out any comment.

    But of course a northerly turn is excluded because no one saw the sucker on radar.

    So they go to the most probable end point of flight and instantly find a ping. Just no plane.

    And we are supposed to believe they have a clue?

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  98. Tomorrow will be like yesterday, are you insane?

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-01/criminal-charges-against-banks-risk-sparking-crisis.html

    Sure it will end well, doesn’t it always?

    gary gulrud (e2cef3)

  99. You are of course free to believe in whatever you want. The story they’re peddling is a bit convenient. It doesn’t mean it’s not true.

    In the meanwhile I shall continue to believe in the small block Ford, the 1911 government model, and hte oxy acetylene torch.

    Steve57 (525198)

  100. *and hte oxy acetylene*

    I got all the right letters. Nailed it, in that regard.

    Steve57 (525198)

  101. Congressman Horsford no more represents the folks who live out thattaway than Senator Barbara Boxer represents the Marine personnel who live in San Diego.

    Horsford got less than 30% of their vote.

    Bikerdad (ba39dd)

  102. Gary, your Bloomberg link informs me of how inadequate my understanding of a bank “run” really is. Good article.

    felipe (098e97)


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