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9/10/2013

John Kerry: Diplomatic Genius . . . and Blatant Liar

Filed under: General — Patterico @ 7:58 am



John Kerry was for the Iraq war before he was against it. Glenn Kessler — the erratic Pinocchio guy at the WaPo who wouldn’t assign Pinocchios to Obama for setting a red line and then claiming he didn’t — has now bashed John Kerry for making up stuff about his position on Iraq. Compare and contrast the two Kerry statements:

John Kerry, Sept. 5, 2013:

[W]hen I was a senator, we opposed the president’s decision to go into Iraq, but we know full well how that evidence was used to persuade all of us that authority ought to be given.

John Kerry, 2003:

It appears that with the deadline for exile come and gone, Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism. . . . If so, the only exit strategy is victory. This is our common mission and the world’s cause. We’re in this together. We want to complete the mission while safeguarding our troops, avoiding innocent civilian casualties, disarming Saddam Hussein, and engaging the community of nations to rebuild Iraq

Meanwhile, Kerry’s thinking-out-loud solution “give the weapons to the UN” solution — to the conumdrum created by Obama’s thinking-out-loud ad-libbed “red line” statement — has diplomats everywhere shrugging their shoulders and saying: yeah, I guess we could do that.

It’s kind of like a parent saying: “If you do that, you are going to be in SUCH BIG TROUBLE” — and then saying you can’t watch your favorite program at the usual time. You’ll have to wait a half hour instead.

But, shrug. I guess we could do that.

Congratulations, Mr. Kerry, on your brilliant off-the-cuff diplomacy and your shiny new Pinocchios!

P.S. Hey Mr. Kessler! How about examining Obama’s “nobody is listening to your phone calls” statement in light of your own paper’s recent revelation that Obama’s law enforcement guys are, in fact, listening to Americans’ phone calls?

73 Responses to “John Kerry: Diplomatic Genius . . . and Blatant Liar”

  1. John Kerry started his political career with lies: The Winter Soldier “hearings” were a fabrication, with fake veterans “testifying” to witnessing war crimes that they could not have witnesses because they never served and were never in Vietnam…except maybe as honored guests of the Communists.

    pst314 (ae6bd1)

  2. It is perfectly logical to trust Russia to police Syria weapons. Right around the time they quit shipping arms to Them.

    JD (6c752f)

  3. This solution could…COULD…put the Obama admin in a pickle. All the war talk about Assad using chemical weapons and that he MUST be punished for it. Well he hands over his chemical weapons and then what if, a month or two later, there’s another chemical weapons attack. Assad can stand up and say “Hey, I didn’t do it, I told you the Rebels did it in the first place. Are you going to punish them or what?”

    What exactly would the US administration do then?

    DejectedHead (a094a6)

  4. this is just a case of Lurch channeling his inner Dave Surls.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  5. It is surreal to hear those clowns claim this is a solution that only came about due to a credible use of force. This all started over a chest-thumping ad lib during the campaign, and now their “solution” is a Russian proposal based on another ad lib gaffe from Horseface. It would be an insult to amateurs to say this is amateur hour.

    JD (6c752f)

  6. Cue the James Downey speech from ‘Billy Madison. jd;

    narciso (3fec35)

  7. TOTUS will continue to flog the dead horse of war this eve. Seems Prince Bandar wasn’t kidding, the American Air Force must pay up.

    Columbia graduation and Clinton diamonds demand to be acknowledged.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  8. So Assad is going to voluntarily point out and hand over all of his something that may or many not be his current store of chemical weapons, to a regime we should never trust, with the whole operation being monitored and overseen by a corrupt and inept international organization which allowed oil for food to be a sick and deadly joke?

    elissa (6b3fdb)

  9. Kerry is a prime example of the absence of competent leadership in this administration, an absence which runs from top to bottom.

    Colonel Haiku (207b84)

  10. #SmartPower!

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  11. I’m not prepared to state from my own certainty that Kerry lied about his testimony at those congressional hearings, or that he know that some of his fellow witnesses were lying. But he should have apologized for that farce when he started running for president. He should, at a minimum, have been aware that it would be a problem. He wasn’t. He lives eternally in the present, and because the press has never been ready to confront him with his past on any issue, he has shifted farther and farther away from objective reality. I’m sure he believe every word he’s ever said, at the time.

    And that is why I am So Very Glad that Kerry didn’t win the Presidency.

    C. S. P. Schofield (adb9dd)

  12. Obama and Kerry are very lucky that this gives them a way to save face. America is not so lucky. This will hurt America’s influence in the region and increase the influence of Russia, Syria, and Iran.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  13. This will hurt America’s influence in the region and increase the influence of Russia, Syria, and Iran.

    to the First Choomer, Lurch, Shrillery, et al, this is a feature, not a bug.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  14. That could be true.

    It wouldn’t surprise me if this takes Syria off the table for the rest of Obama’s term. Russia and Syria can drag out any inspections for years, and meanwhile the civil war and Christian massacres will continue.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  15. Don’t think there was much America could do about Syria but if Obama really cared about what was happening there, I think that concern is over.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  16. Obama’s playin’ “*checkees” while Putin’s playing chess.

    * h/t GrandPa Amos McCoy

    Colonel Haiku (4e5a95)

  17. the chemical weapons massacre thing in Syria is just like after that shooting in Connecticut or wherever – food stamp’s instinct is to exploit the deaths as maximally as possible – he senses an opportunity here and he’s nothing if not the quintessential opportunist… but he’s too stupid to think of a compelling way to do it and everyone except maybe a few Associated Press propaganda sluts knows he’s a momo and they’re just very wary of signing on to his schemes

    happyfeet (c60db2)

  18. Kerry is a sociopath. And Kessler won’t do anything to harm dear leader. That was evident in his red line “fact check.”

    Ghost (476943)

  19. “Don’t think there was much America could do about Syria but if Obama really cared about what was happening there, I think that concern is over.”

    DRJ – That’s why the hypocrisy of Obama’s position is so glaring. With over 100,000 dead over the past 2 1/2 years we do nothing, no humanitarian crisis. All of a sudden a fraction of that number a killed and he and his minions are saying we must intervene, women and children are dying, it’s a humanitarian crisis!

    D’oh! Has he been asleep? How many died in Libya before our “humanitarian intervention”?

    Obama helps set the Middle East on fire and then wants to disclaim responsibilities for red lines, helping to support and install radical Islamic goverments, etc., etc.

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  20. Kerry gives me a thin veneer of honesty

    EPWJ (c3dbb4)

  21. “You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq SYRIA !”

    —John Kerry

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  22. “Kerry gives me a thin veneer of honesty”

    EPWJ – Was he wearing a bathrobe when you were at Princeton?

    daleyrocks (bf33e9)

  23. They should sign the deal in Benghazi.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  24. John Scarey is a diplomatic genius as much as Lame Kiffin is an offensive genius.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  25. The only thing I’m certain J’effinK is on the top of is Teresa’s financial advisors’ rolodexes.

    He was prolly out of the military-industrial complex and had no dog in the hunt.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  26. BTW, what do you suppose Putin is going to want for saving Obambi’s presidency? Now that the president has shown himself to be so, ah, flexible.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  27. I’m remindered how enthusiastic McCoward was about voting to confirm this John Kerry momo.

    McCoward’s really not much of a critical thinker, and none of the consequences of this ever seem to be good

    happyfeet (c60db2)

  28. Syria schmeeria… let’s not forget that tomorrow is the 1 year anniversary of the heinous Benghazi atrocity for which this administration has not explained its lies, incompetence, ineptitude, lies, dishonor, lies, 3 Card Monte, lies, mendacity, dishonesty and lies.

    Colonel Haiku (a6bc62)

  29. 29. The Facebook accounts of our gay Olympians.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  30. It ain’t over. Obama is determined to continue his support for the Muslim Brotherhood’s jihad against secularist leaders in the Middle East. Bottom line.

    Quietly arming the MB’s al-Qaeda fighters in Syria was what Benghazi was about, but once the Administration’s arms smuggling operation was disrupted so violently and so publicly on 9/11/12 Obama could no longer secretly continue changing the military equation in Syria by strengthening Assad’s opposition. So, Obama set out to weaken Assad’s forces. Same destination, different route.

    Nothing has changed. It’s the same policy objective, another MB victory another secular leader replaced with a true believer, achieved by only slightly different means. So, whatever stand the Congress takes or doesn’t take, Obama’s objective and the MB’s ultimate goal remain the same: Fundamental transformation of the Middle East, and fundamental transformation of the USA.

    ropelight (98744c)

  31. A big bowl of KaBoom for teh catsup king!

    Colonel Haiku (a6bc62)

  32. Bet Tayyip is pretty broken up about his bus tossing a piston.

    gary gulrud (dd7d4e)

  33. Daleyrocks

    EPWJ – Was he wearing a bathrobe when you were at Princeton?

    it was my girlfriends bathrobe…. now you know…

    EPWJ (c3dbb4)

  34. John Kerry is a small pawn in a big game, a convenient idiot to be used, or used up, and cast aside, maybe neutered or even decapitated if the situation calls for blood on the ground, video taped, of course.

    After all, someone always has to pay the piper and Hillary’s already skipped out just in the nick of time, so, if shame and solitude, or seppuku, isn’t in Kerry’s future, he just might cross that last bridge to imagined safety only to wake up to the same fate as Ichabod Crane.

    ropelight (98744c)

  35. Teh Albert Brooks Foreign Policy Institute…

    Colonel Haiku (0dcd9c)

  36. There is a possibility that Russia and Syria don’t really intend for this “solution” to actually get adopted in a final form. Delay is what they want since Obama’s inept handling shows that delay will succeed.

    SPQR (768505)

  37. Ben what zi?

    Dustin (303dca)

  38. Yeah, what is this Benghazi place or whatever that was mentioned ?
    Do tell.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  39. I guess Kerry’s on live now? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpRNIegUZfY

    nk (875f57)

  40. Nope. Replay.

    nk (875f57)

  41. ==Delay is what they want==

    While “solving” intractable problems by just kicking the can down the road is not normally a preferred or well thought out practice, in this particular case where the alternative appears to be an equally not well thought plan to unleash U.S. bombers into a tinderbox, I find “delay” to be agreeable.

    elissa (6b3fdb)

  42. Can they delay action on everything, and I mean everything, until the next president is sworn in? Please?

    Stashiu3 (e7ebd8)

  43. elissa, in this case, delay aids Russia’s ally Syria. And undermines Obama because his lobbying efforts are so incompetent.

    SPQR (768505)

  44. The Obama Doctrine: Weaken every aspect of both domestic and foreign policy, lower America’s influence and standing in the world all in accordance with a commitment to fundamentally transform America.

    Colonel Haiku (2c2cec)

  45. Comment by Colonel Haiku (2c2cec) — 9/10/2013 @ 11:57 am

    But never let this interfere with Super Bowl/Final Four picks, or with Moochelle’s vacations/shopping.

    askeptic (b8ab92)

  46. Really the only promise he ever intended to keep… Fundamentally transform beyond all recognition, FTbar for short.

    Colonel Haiku (2c2cec)

  47. There is a possibility that Russia and Syria don’t really intend for this “solution” to actually get adopted in a final form. Delay is what they want since Obama’s inept handling shows that delay will succeed.

    Everyone wants to be a toreador.

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  48. This Obama person ought to have remained a community organizer.
    Organizing the world is a totally different animal.

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  49. “…you can fool all of the people some of the time…”

    Kevin M (bf8ad7)

  50. Organizing the world is a totally different animal.

    phantrock

    much of the world are animals

    EPWJ (c3dbb4)

  51. Russia requests that consultation mtg of security council be canceled. Obama is asking congress to delay their vote.

    Colonel Haiku (207b84)

  52. That damn “reset button” stunt showed naivete and promised weakness from the very first days of this administration.

    elissa (6b3fdb)

  53. Obama must be going golfing…

    Colonel Haiku (207b84)

  54. EPWJ,

    I concur with the premise that much of humanity is pretty bad.
    I’ve always admired Madison for his statement that begins, “If men were angels…

    Elephant Stone (6a6f37)

  55. Administration Changes Russian Proposal’s Origin Story Kerry now claims credit

    http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/administration-changes-russian-proposals-origin-story

    Angelo (599003)

  56. Obama might want to rethink taking credit for this idea since Russia is preventing a Security Council meeting unless the US drops its threat to use force.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  57. DRJ–Right now the best thing that could possibly happen to President Obama would be for him to develop a violent stomach bug whose symptoms will require him to cancel tonight’s “speech”.

    elissa (6b3fdb)

  58. Some may think that Russia and Syria are afraid that Obama will use force, so that’s why Putin is trying to take that off the table. I don’t think that’s what this is about. I think this is Putin’s way of showing that he can push Obama into a corner whenever he wants — including just hours before Obama’s big speech.

    Obama better call rewrite.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  59. Obama probably has a very sick stomach, elissa. A headache, too.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  60. mostly, right now Present Momjeans McDrone and all his acolytes are suffering from butthurt.

    that meany Putin has made it clear, on the world stage with everyone watching, that Teh Won has no clothes, no spine and is dumber than a lobotomized Persian cat.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  61. Anyone else noticed that a sizable portion of Obama supporters are cut from the same cloth as those of every tin horn dictator ever?

    Sincerely,

    W.T.F. Ovah

    Colonel Haiku (d63e9f)

  62. now Lurch is apparently claiming this was all planned…

    http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/09/10/On-Syria-Goof-Kerry-Claims-He-Meant-to-Do-That

    no word if all that “planning” on our end included Putin making our SCOAMF his biotch, or if that was just #SmartPower in action.

    redc1c4 (abd49e)

  63. My guess is Obama supporters see this as a victory for Obama that validates how he handled Syria. They see this as Putin and Assad giving up in the face of Obama’s threat of force. I don’t see it that way and I don’t think people in the Middle East will either.

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  64. Sandra Day O’Conner was right… this country has been dumbed-down to a very dangerous level.

    Colonel Haiku (b924f9)

  65. Stashiu–I think Peter Wehner agrees with you.

    No president in my lifetime has been more ambivalent about the use of American power; and if Mr. Obama does strike Syria, Peggy Noonan poses the right question: “If we bomb Syria, will the world say, ‘Oh, how credible America is!’ or will they say, ‘They just bombed people because they think they have to prove they’re credible’?” The restoration of American credibility will probably have to await a new American president (think of Reagan following Carter).

    elissa (6b3fdb)

  66. Oh, the irony. Obama’s speech may focus on Ronald Reagan’s famous advice:

    Obama, who was to deliver a national address on Syria later Tuesday, cautiously welcomed the proposal. But he said the U.S. is still prepared to go ahead with strikes if it falls through. He reached back into history — and the Cold War rivalry between the United States and the Soviet Union — to underline the need for enforcement.

    “The key is, to paraphrase Ronald Reagan, that we don’t just trust, but we also verify,” Obama told CBS. “The importance is to make sure that the international community has confidence that these chemical weapons are under control, that they are not being used, that potentially they are removed from Syria and that they are destroyed.”

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  67. Won’t the anti-war crowd love that!

    DRJ (a83b8b)

  68. Harry Reid pretended that the Russia deal drove him to halt a vote on force in the Senate. The reality is that Democrat votes for force were “dropping like flies,” and the prospect of passage in the House was always grim. Obama lost the Congressional Black Caucus today. Sen. Mitch McConnell came out against bombing today, breaking with the House GOP leaders who had supported it, and probably killing off any chance that the Senate would help Obama out by at least giving him a split vote in Congress. The likelihood now is that he gets rejected by both houses with actual “No” votes or implicitly if neither brings the authorization to a vote, and then has to decide if he wants to strike Syria anyway. Does Barry feel lucky?

    So Obama is being played by Putin. The question is, does he know or even care that he’s being played? He seemed happy enough to grab Putin’s hand and get out of his jam. Now what’s he going to do? Putin is saying that there will be no quick fix, and that he intends to keep on using the UN to mess around with Obama, promise him a prize, then take it away, over and over again. Playing the part of Lucy, Vlad Putin. Playing the part of Charlie Brown trying to kick a football, Barack Obama. For a while to come.

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/10/russia-backing-away-from-fake-syria-weapons-deal/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

    elissa (6b3fdb)

  69. GOP Congressman says “I’ll vote for your strike if you give back the Nobel Prize, Barry.”

    http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/middle-east-north-africa/321401-republican-says-hell-ok-syria-strikes-if-obama-returns-nobel-prize#ixzz2eWDCPXSt

    redc1c4 (abd49e)


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